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John Key, Edication Espert

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Well what a fiasco yesterday’s launch of National’s brave new $36 million education policy was. Despite Key claiming the plan was one of the most important steps his Government would ever take, teachers and principals boycotted the event in droves. Even the government’s education policy advisor Prof John Hattie said the new policy was potentially “disastrous” and government should be ready to pull the plug immediately if if begins to show detrimental effects.

There’s at least a couple of reasons why opposition by educationalists is significant. For one, policy reforms often require a lot of good will on behalf of those charged with implementation. That’s why you involve people in the process, so they feel a part of the changes and buy-in to the process, and so go beyond the call of duty to make it work when the inevitable rocky parts of the change emerge. Without buy-in, especially in very people-based processes, you get low uptake, chain-dragging and even sabotage to ensure the changes fail.

The other significance of educationalists boycotting the launch is that it suggests they believe the changes won’t work, might be harmful or are just a plain old foolhardy waste of precious resources that’ll achieve nothing more than boost National’s polling for a while. But then I guess, what would the Principals’ Federation or the NZEI know about education compared to a retired currency trader turned politician? Being pointy-headed PC liberals and all, teachers and principals just work with actual students every day and probably don’t even appreciate National’s need for vacuous populism in education policy.

So now we have National Party politicians deciding what’s best for our kids while ignoring the expert opinions of professional educators.

In a comic parade act of exquisite unintentional irony Key commented that “The future of New Zealand does not lie with the Government, it lies with the children at school now.” Christ, ain’t that the truth. Heaven help them.

69 comments on “John Key, Edication Espert ”

  1. Deemac 1

    Ludicrously, RadioNZ stopped parents outside school gates to ask if they thought these standards were a good thing, without asking if they have any idea what they will mean. The rest of the media were predictably worse. No wonder the level of political debate is so low when the media just repeat govt press releases as if they were facts.

    • agreed. but then it is a policy specifically designed to appeal to those who haven’t actually got a clue about the policy and whose views on education amount to “3Rs good, stuff i never got bad”

    • Swampy 1.2

      There is a huge amount of hypocrisy in the stance taken by the educational unions. There are already national everythings you can think of in schools. There are standardised assessments measures, there is a national curriculum, there is a national collective agreement, there is the Ministry of Education directing much of the operation of schools.

      There is also a huge amount of national fearmongering whipped up by the unions on this issue, yet they are the ones who are calling for Tomorrows Schools to be abolished and the Ministry to run the schools directly as well.

      As a senior principal said to me, this is a very reasonable requirement because schools don’t have to report any assessment data back to the government yet the government pours a huge amount of money into the educational system, there just has to be some core accountability for that money.

      It’s not hard to see where the unions are coming from with this. They want the poorly performing teachers who are tucked away in their schools to be protected as long as possible from objective assessment of their performance and abilities. When it comes down to it unions are full of people who couldn’t do a real job if they tried.

      • BLiP 1.2.1

        Here’s where the Unions are coming from.

        • Swampy 1.2.1.1

          Dead link but it is as I have described. All of a sudden these poorly performing teachers are under the national spotlight. The unions have been helping them to hide in their individual schools for decades.

          • Zorr 1.2.1.1.1

            First of all Swampy, how about you educate yourself as to what the history of National Standards have done to education systems in societies like America. It is almost universally (by teachers, psychologists and education experts) considered to be a failure as their children end up learning “to the test” and not actually learning any of the skills that schools should be teaching their pupils (critical thinking and research skills just to name a couple). National Standards effectively tell teachers what they have to cover to “succeed” at getting their pupils through the system. However, the system isn’t what we are meant to be teaching them for, we are meant to be teaching them in preparation for the real world.

            Also, in the case of the accountability of schools, they have their feet held to the fire every few years by, what is essentially, the auditing agency ERO (Education Review Office). Every teacher is investigated and worked with to determine their professional capabilities and how well they are performing within their assigned roles. Schools are held very accountable for their actions and expenses. To say you “talked to a senior principal” is to not say much as it would be interesting to know what his background was. Did he run a large school? Was it public, private or integrated? Various questions along these lines would tell us a lot as to where this quoted opinion of yours actually came from (not the least of which would be the context of the conversation).

            Before attempting to speak from a position of authority on a matter, I recommend educating yourself on the discussion at hand rather than just spewing vitriol at very hard working people in what is a very challenging job.

            • Swampy 1.2.1.1.1.1

              The standards already exist, PAT testing has been around for a long long time and is part of the education establishment in this country. Good schools use stuff like the PAT internally to assess the performance of their teachers. That type of testing is well recognised and supported (NZCER etc).

              I have many teacher friends, most of them do not support a lot of the views of the PPTA/NZEI, they recognise that these unions have a political agenda and that in some matters it is politics first, education second. The Principals Federation was very foolish to boycott the launch because they have shown it is politics first, they are employees of the government and public servants and are expected to serve at the end of the day.

  2. randal 2

    according to all the experts the present new zealand education system is among the top 5% in the world and now national wants to change it. specifically commodify it so schools can be ranked and then sold off.
    is there no limit to the craven creepiness of this government?

  3. John Dalley 3

    while i firmly believe the need for standards and reports, when has ever a new set of standards going to help the 20% that Johnkey says are failing?
    Another set of standards are going to help no one and the money wasted could be better spent on extra tuition/help needed to bring that 20% up to the level of all other pupils.
    Every day Johnkey opens his mouth, more absolute rubbish escapes.

    • Swampy 3.1

      The standards already exist, just not nationalised. Schools already use these measures in house, at least the good ones do.

      The unions simply don’t want bad teachers coming to the attention of the ministry, they as usual are defending people’s rights to a job for life no matter how useless they are.

      • Zorr 3.1.1

        “No Child Left Behind” – the worst education policy in recent times. Now we have our own version. It is best to let the people who are experts in their field to actually help shape the policy that will affect everyone’s future rather than let politicians form the policy in a reactionary manner to score cheap points with voters.

        When it becomes obvious that Decile 1 schools around the country are universally worse than Decile 10 schools, might it become more apparent to you that the success of our children is dependent on more than just the teachers?

        And as a final note, where was the Select Committee on this? I certainly don’t remember one.

        • Swampy 3.1.1.1

          When I read on NCLB I find there is about equal views for and against, there are going to be some changes to improve it but Obama is not going to dump it.

          You see the NCLB was not a Bush push at all costs, it attracted widespread bipartisan support in the political era it was created in. It was taken through the legislative process by no lesser a leftie than Ted Kennedy. The number of votes in favour in both Houses was around 90%. It is rare to find that kind of unanimity in NZ for any kind of major policy like that.

          So if this is our version then it can’t be so bad as all the naysayers here make out. Professor Hattie, well he has said that it could be an incredible opportunity if it works out.

          The government has spent nearly a year talking to the teachers unions about this policy, even if Tolley has stuffed it up a bit, they have talked.

      • the sprout 3.1.2

        what tired bollocks you peddle swampy. when was the last time you read anything, the early 80s?

        i suggest you save yourself further embarrassment and defer to Zorr’s informed position.

        • Swampy 3.1.2.1

          I have an informed position also, it just happens not to be the position of the left wing unions who are campaigning against the Government, and a policy they see as hostile to their political interests.

    • Yep, “back to the 3 r’s” really is just another step in Nationals “back in the good old days” anti intellectualism, its rubbish, and i’ll be not one bit surprised if it fails.

      Any one notice Anne Tolley on close up I think it was. “Teachers have been telling us that 4 reports a year is too many to write, so we have set the minimum at 2” ermm conclusion doesn’t follow from premise?

  4. BLiP 5

    There are all sorts of reason to oppose this vast National Ltd® social engineering experiment, not the least of them being the fact that it doesn’t work, as Ron has pointed out above and the UK media is reporting. The empirical evidence is abundant and clear, so what is National Ltd® really up to with this so called “one of the most important steps (the) Government would ever take “?

    Is it too much to consider this latest piece of legislation in light of the increasingly frightening surveillance state being imposed via rafts of increasingly draconian and intrusive legislation being pushed through a parliament increasingly spending its time in urgency?

    Each and every individual student will be tracked through primary school by the Government (or whatever private enterprise it contracts this function out to) and reports on any deviation from some contrived “norm” will be noted at least 16 times before that child reaches college. What other uses, I wonder, can this data be put to?

    • i agree BLiP, when you have the Privacy Commissioner describing National’s plans as “chilling” while the media blithely reports about cats in freezers, you know things will only get worse.

      just wait till they start cross-matching the data with DNA samples from the Guthrie tests. of course it’ll all be to stop the terrists.

    • Swampy 5.2

      Whoops, the Guardian is a left wing paper. And the unions are left wing. And National is a right wing government. Is there a pattern here? Don’t be silly. The lefties would never, never, never attack a right wing government’s policy, would they? LOL

      If people don’t really want national standards then what do they really want? There are a couple of things that come to mind:

      1. They want bad teachers to keep their jobs, so they need to make sure that nothing that shows up these teachers, like assessment data from their classrooms, ever comes to the attention of the government or the education ministry.

      2. They want pupils not to compete against each other for the best marks.

      When old school educationalists campaign for the basics (the 3 Rs) what they are really asking for is for all the PC nonsense that is being put into schools these days to be put on the back burner. You can have art and music taught as long as they are not detracting from the 3 Rs.

      • BLiP 5.2.1

        Attack the messenger, eh Swampy? Well, here you go, here’s the link to the Cambride University report – yes, Cambridge – that last bastion of upper class privilegde. Probably still not good enough for you, eh Swampy?

        • Swampy 5.2.1.1

          Probably not, plenty of nonsense comes out of ivory towers these days.

          Get with it. There are already nationalised assessments. The only difference is that schools up until now don’t have to report the individual teachers’ results back. That is in a nutshell why there is such a huge song and dance from the unions, who see it as their mission in life to defend the “underdogs” of bad teachers who couldn’t get a job in the real world.

          If you want to know why schools are failing, it will start with bad leadership, usually at the level of the principal and there will also be a number of poorly performing teachers as well. In a bad school the mediocrity gets perpetuated and even rewarded. But the unions will always defend them until the bitter end. Some of them even become union organisers and leaders.

          • BLiP 5.2.1.1.1

            As I thought – even when confronted with the empirical evidence you still deny reality.

            • Swampy 5.2.1.1.1.1

              One study says one thing. If you can provide ten studies that all say the same thing you might be more convincing. The UK education system is significantly different. As the report makes clear the government has significantly more day to day involvement in the running of schools than is the case here. It is a different ballgame by a long way.

              It’s disappointing that the report you quote proposes a huge liberalisation of their curriculum when what has to be done really is to stop the political manipulation of their schools by the government. We don’t have that here and it is an important difference. Strangely the unions here are calling for schools to come under greater central control. They must think local boards are really some sort of threat to principals and teachers.

    • Swampy 5.3

      The Labour Party is far more in tune with this, we should remember that they pushed through a lot more legislation and social engineering because that is what they do.

      There is no Surveillance Bill before Parliament, there is a proposal written by the left wing legal elite in the Law Commission for a law, which I think is stupid.

      • BLiP 5.3.1

        Tell me this, if there is no such thing as the Search and Surveillance Bill then why is there a Parliamentary Committee hearing submissions on it?

        Is it just another union-inspired piece of defiance in the face of a National Ltd® government?

    • Swampy 5.4

      This Bill is before a select committee. It is not being pushed through under urgency. You are a dishonest scaremongerer.

      • BLiP 5.4.1

        Oh, now it does exist? What, the booze wearing off is it?

        • Swampy 5.4.1.1

          Ooops. (The moderators can delete a few posts for me if they think this is getting out of hand)

          • the sprout 5.4.1.1.1

            slow learner swampy, that does explain a fair bit mind.

            • Swampy 5.4.1.1.1.1

              How about sticking to the politics and leaving the character assassination out of it (which as written above is all a load of rubbish anyway).

              I work in the education system and it is plain, this is just another front for union whingers to attack the National government. They all seem to have forgotten they are public servants. Buutveld boycotting the launch makes him look like a politician, would he be so brave if he were still leading a school.

  5. CuriO 6

    Haha this is such crap. Teachers are the hired help, . They aren’t the masters of the universe. If so many kids can’t read and write with the current system, and so many don’t get NCEA level 2 and 3 when it is easy to get, then the system needs to be changed. Parents support their kids and schools having some accountability. I hope that this issue dominates the next election. The parents versus the unions and scared mediocre teachers. Great. This is why Labour is at 25% or whatever it is. ‘Lets just teach kids to feel good’. The unions and the principals need to get in behind this or get the sack. They misunderstand their role. I have some sympathy for the teachers, but not the teachers union.

    • Sam 6.1

      How many is so many?

    • BLiP 6.2

      That data is being collected by the Ministry for government use. Its just a simple tweak of the legislation, if it doesn’t exist already, for this data to be shared by other departments. Given the latest raft of legislation, there’s nothing to stop the police having a rummage through the data to identify citizens requiring some pre-emptive “intervention”. Smirk all you like, those are the facts.

      • Swampy 6.2.1

        Educational data has always been collected, you are scaremongering. It is also proposed by Labour that there be increased “early intervention” in families which brings us closer to a surveillance state

  6. mike 7

    What are you guys so scared of – accountability?
    As a father of 3 ankle biters I’m rapt that I’ll get a snapshot of their progress in the basics.
    These precious teachers that are crying about this need to remember who pays them and what their actual job is

    • lprent 7.1

      And you’re not doing the job of teaching them – why? Probably because you’d be inadequate to the task? Should you disqualify yourself from being a parent? After all your kids are relying on you…

      This policy on education has been made with no significant consultation or agreement with the people who actually do the task, by someone who appears to be educationally illiterate. For some reason she lacks the respect of the people she is trying to tell how to do their job. Moreover rather than finding new money for an untried, untested, and in the opinion of the educators – seriously flawed and meaningless populist policy, the government is removing money from courses that are tested and have proved to be effective.

      But fuck and dang it – ya’ll just have to have faith that the moronic fuckwits have got it right first time (and for the first time as well)…

      Personally, I’d suggest that you might want to look at hitting John Key up for getting a better qualified minister

      • mike 7.1.1

        FYI we invest a great deal of time in our kids – its our job to get them prepared for school and the teachers job to inform us how they are performing. Simple really – just need to get the ego’s under control

        • logie97 7.1.1.1

          Mike. Great expression “we invest so much time in our kids.” People who claim they do, probably don’t. Most of your contributions on this site are generally flame or trolling and usually poorly informed. My experience of most school reporting is that in 3R’s there is a comprehensive section on Reading, Writing and Mathematics. (Remember that portfolios complement the written report and include samples of analysed work, an age levelled running record of reading behaviours, and a Numeracy level based on the Mathematics Curriculum.

          Your energies should be addressed to your beloved leaders to commit to reducing classroom sizes dramatically so that your children can receive greater attention. Given that each child is entitled to the same amount of teacher instructional time as your children – consider that a class of 30 children, each child would be entitled to 12.1/2 minutes of teacher time per day (if they were being taught one to one).

      • CuriO 7.1.2

        I think that the reason that she lacks the respect of (some) teachers is because she is in the National party, not the Labour party, and that is disgraceful. She is actually doing a very good job. As I say I hope that this is the issue that defines the 2011 election. Parents versus teachers in the Union whose main man is now in the Labour party.

        • The Voice of Reason 7.1.2.1

          Bad luck, CuriO. The issue that defines the next election is going to be corruption. Or incompetence. Or the ETS. In fact, any number of things that piss Kiwis off about this Daddy State government.

          Tolley’s off her trolley and she is certainly going to help bring a Labour led Government back, but education is not a defining issue, just part of the death of a thousand cuts.

          BTW, care to explain the following sentence?

          “Parents versus teachers in the Union whose main man is now in the Labour party.”

          No standard for you. Fail.

        • Swampy 7.1.2.2

          I think she is struggling to turn in a better performance than her predecessor Chris Carter, for sure.

          Your union comments are spot on, they all campaigned for Labour and told their members who to vote for.

      • Swampy 7.1.3

        There is nothing new in this policy, these standardised assessments already exist and are being used by the better schools.

        I would take anything the union leadership says with a grain of salt. As usual, they have a predetermined position of opposition to National. Whilst some of what they say and do is done with the true intent of education at heart, a lot of what the unions exist for is to oppose right wing policies and to push their left wing agenda. You won’t hear any acknowledgement from the unions of a divergence in views in these matters across the schools of NZ. They make a lot of noise about the negatives, just like any politician.

        • the sprout 7.1.3.1

          There is nothing new in this policy, these standardised assessments already exist and are being used

          and yet National are blowing $36M and claim it’s “one of the most important steps this government will take”. odd don’t you think swampy?

          • Swampy 7.1.3.1.1

            $36 million is a piffling amount, really just enough to pay a few bureacrats to collect the data and make sure the schools have all the resources to report it. What they are doing is making it compulsory for the schools to report these assessments which only some schools actually use now and don’t have to report.

      • Swampy 7.1.4

        Rubbish, the government and unions have been talking about this policy for nearly a year.

        This is the educational establishment seeking to defend their own agenda and their way of organising their political campaigning and social engineering agenda from electoral accountability.

        • sk 7.1.4.1

          Swampy, this is rubbish reasoning. It has nothing to do with the educational establishment or unions. It is about international best practise, and these tests are not that . ..

          • Swampy 7.1.4.1.1

            The schools get billions from the government each year. They don’t have to report anything back in return. Getting them to report their data is a pretty small demand for accountability’s sake. As the tests for the most part already exist there is nothing new except the centralised collection.

            The schools have to have some kinds of assessments, the PAT tests and the like are all well developed and supported in the educational community so the basic principles are sound. I expect the standards will be based on the PAT and the other standardised assessments like STAR etc which schools already use to determine their performance in house. They report those results to their boards, if they are a good school.

  7. Shona 8

    Mike, you are clearly ignorant of how the NZ state education works.I have successfully raised and educated 3 children. All of them reaching tertiary level youngest is still completing her tertiary studies. Every state school my children attended provided clear data on their scholastic progress at the end of each term . Primary Intermediate and Secondary level. I never had any difficulty at any time with any of the schools they attended,rural and urban,boarding as well when asking for progress reports or meetings with teachers on any issue regarding my offspring.The prejudice implicit in your remarks displays an unwarranted amount of disrespect for an embattled and grossly under resourced profession and sector.
    Do your time as a member of a school Board of Trustees as my partner and I have . Then see if you have the same ill informed opinion of our seriously and inexcusably underfunded education system!

    • CuriO 8.1

      1.0 Currently in New York amazing work is being done in public schools far worse off then our own through Bloomberg electing Joel Klein and Carmen Farina to reform 1200 public schools. What they have done is broadly similar, instigating national standards, bulk funding, and focusing on the 3 R’s. The UK is certainly not the full story.

      1.1 New York is dealing with 1.1 million students, analagous to New Zealand’s national secondary student population. Another point of interest is to read up on the KIPP schools in California that bring what Malcolm Gladwell calls an ethos of ‘the chinese rice paddy’ to education. This is where public education should be heading, and the only reason it won’t is because of union politics getting in the way of student benefit. Read Outliers and Gladwells chapter on the KIPP schools. What our students really need more then flash new computers is time.

      2.0 One question I have is why is it NZ teachers will not accept a merit-based payrate system? At my secondary school there were some excellent teachers who I would gladly pay more tax for if I knew my money was going to go to them specifically. Equally there were some excellently mediocre teachers who were passengers and I imagine are terrified at this new turn of political events. I would not want my money to go to them because they don’t deserve it.

      3.0 I look at the statistics on level 2 and 3 NCEA especially, never mind tertiary education at this juncture, and I ponder how it is that a large swathe of teachers and the union can believe that there is no problem. If we are doing okay relatively speaking, it is more an indictment on the state of education internationally then a testament to our own excellence.

      4.0 Make no mistake there are many very good teachers in New Zealand, but a lot of the criticism being made against this policy arises from a basic shameful premise. Fear of accountablility.

      • logie97 8.1.1

        CuriO – another National party hack. He quotes readings to enhance his argument. But uses then for than twice within a couple of paragraphs…. back to basics for you, CuriO. Odd that you already had the ability to assess a teacher’s abilities (Mrs Jones spends all day looking out of her kitchen window – I can see her from my bedroom).

        CuriO there is no argument about measuring progress. It would appear to be the methodology that is in question.

        And for your information, accountability in the education system has been in existence for years.

        • Swampy 8.1.1.1

          Accountability by and large only exists in individual schools, where bad schools can perpetuate mediocrity. It is hard to escape the conclusion that this nationalised reporting will pick out the bad teachers and bring more pressure to bear on local schools to get rid of them.

          The methodology is just the same as it has always been except for national reporting.

    • Swampy 8.2

      There is a huge difference between the reports you receive, and the raw assessment data. The important thing to consider is you just receive a report on what your kids have done. Unless and even if you talk to other parents it is hard to get a full picture of what is happening in the school.

      The data for a whole class could show that there is a class wide problem which falls back on the poor performance of individual teachers. This process already happens in house in the better schools. The unions are opposing the idea that this should become a national reporting standard because they want to protect the jobs of poorly performing teachers and it is easier to hide their results in individual schools. Look at what happened when the ministry set up its enrolment database, all of a sudden they discovered hundreds of kids falling between the cracks not being enrolled. That is what will happen with these national standards, teachers will be under the spotlight like they never have been before.

  8. Swampy 9

    “Even the government’s education policy advisor Prof John Hattie said the new policy was potentially “disastrous’ and government should be ready to pull the plug immediately if if begins to show detrimental effects.”

    This is dishonest quoting. Hattie actually said
    “There is an incredible opportunity here if we get it right, there is a disaster if we get it wrong.”

    In other words, unlike you, the educational expert professor Hattie CAN SEE THAT NATIONAL STANDARDS COULD DO A LOT OF GOOD FOR EDUCATION IN NZ SCHOOLS.

    This is a huge storm in a teacup. It is primarily about the left wing union leadership campaigning against and opposing the National Government. Since this government was democratically elected to represent us, the leadership of these unions is guilty of hijacking the NZ education system for political purposes and should hang their heads in shame.

    • BLiP 9.1

      If teachers and principals were to remain silent and simply cower in the face of National Ltd® and carry out what they know will be a failure then they should hang their heads in shame. It is you who is insisting on force-feeding a fundamentally flawed policy down the throats of future generations that should hang her head in shame.

      • Swampy 9.1.1

        So, so sad. There is nothing new in these standards. National assessments have existed for decades. It is a load of rubbish what is being put out there by the opposition to this policy. Professor Hattie says “There is an incredible opportunity here if we get it right”.

        The fact is the unions don’t know this will be a failure. They know it will threaten what they stand for and believe in. However the Governmment is elected to make the policy, not the educational establishment and teachers’ political lobby groups. When you look at it the unions are opposed to a lot of things in defence of their own position. That is hardly unusual but it is unreasonable to expect the educational system to be set up as a breeding ground and pillar of union activism and left wing political campaigning.

  9. Armchair Critic 10

    And more red tape from the party that promised less red tape. Good one, National.

  10. sk 11

    The trolling on this thread shows how anxious NACT is on this issue. It was just not Principals who declined to attend the launch. Leading internationally recognised academics / educationalists declined, and I hear JK noted their absence. The message the minnions sent out was that we ignored your advice on this issue, but we will listen in future, yeah right. Hattie a’int the only expert in NZ.

    CuriO, your datapoints from the US have no relevance here. US education is in crisis, Bloomberg or no Bloomberg.

    We already have National Standards, and have had them since we were kids. PAT it is called. Mike, when your kids actually attend school your may want to track their PAT results, which teachers are more than happy to share with you already.

    National Standards are a crap campaign promise that does nothing to further our kids education. All the international evidence shows that this is a retrograde step.

    We are failing 20% of kids in our schools, but they are easily recognised now, disproportionately Maori and Pacific Island boys. We do not need tests to tell us that . ..

    • the sprout 11.1

      agreed on all counts, especially the reason for the fervor of the trolls.

    • Swampy 11.2

      NACT trolling, LOL. I have nothing to do with any political party. But Labour has their dirty hands stamped all over the negative campaigning attacks by the unions for sure. The Principals Federation is complicit in this, there was at least one principal who attended and supported it as it was launched at his school. Buutveld is toeing the NZEI line as a former branch president, sadly predictable.

      The truth about this policy is that it is a storm in a teacup that has been shamefully hijacked for political ends by the teachers unions. It is a piffling amount of money being expended in a very minor change that will not have the negative impact that is being hyped up by the Labour party’s union friends the way it has. National is not spending hundreds of millions in social engineering the way Labour does (think about much bigger Clark policies like the useless TEC) and the result is not going to be anything like as far reaching as all the scaremongering makes out.

      • felix 11.2.1

        NACT trolling, LOL. I have nothing to do with any political party

        And yet you knew exactly who sk and sprout were referring to, eh Swampy?

        Slow clap for you.

  11. Roberto Smithsky 12

    You guys are laughable.

    Mr Key credited Auckland University professor John Hattie as one of his main inspirations for the scheme, but Mr Hattie has put the Government on two years’ notice to prove it is using the system correctly.

    “There is an incredible opportunity here if we get it right”

    So you guys are against trying to improve the schooling system, nice one.

    Or is it more of a case of your just lick spittling to teacher union members?

    • the sprout 12.1

      Roberto, clearly you’re not in the habit of arguing from an informed position, but perhaps you should listen to the interview with Prof Hattie in the 3rd link of the above post, it’ll give you a clearer picture of just how concerned he is with this lunatic grab for populist votes at the expense of children’s best educational interests.

  12. Jasper 13

    Read the full thing here

    I had a read, and this whole scenario brings to mind a scene from Torchwood where the ministers are discussing what children to give to the invaders. They use the excuse “If we can’t identify the worst kids, the ones that will go on to cost the state, the ones that will turn to crime, then what on earth are school league tables for?”

    When you’ve got teachers being advised to give A’s to students that write such “the san and the nite rise n the eaf” it’s no wonder that this next generation are going to be dumber than the last when it comes to literacy.

    Then there’s this photo which quite clearly tells us just where John Key thinks the poorly performing kids belong.

  13. Daveosaurus 14

    “it’s no wonder that this next generation are going to be dumber than the last when it comes to literacy”

    Not that the last is all that much better: try telling a certain semi-literate late middle-aged civic administrator the correct spelling of “Whanganui” and watch the sparks fly…

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  • NZ-France to co-chair Christchurch Call Leaders’ Summit
    New Zealand and France will jointly convene the Christchurch Call Community for a leaders’ summit, to take stock of progress and develop a new shared priority work plan. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and President Emmanuel Macron will co-chair the leaders’ meeting on the 2nd anniversary of the Call, on 14 ...
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  • New South Wales travel pause to be lifted tomorrow
    COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins says the current travel pause with New South Wales will lift tomorrow – subject to no further significant developments in NSW. “New Zealand health officials met today to conduct a further assessment of the public health risk from the recently identified COVID-19 community cases in Sydney. It has been determined that the risk to public ...
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    14 hours ago
  • March 15 Collective Impact Board appointed
    The voices of those affected by the March 15 mosque attacks will be heard more effectively with the establishment of a new collective impact board, Associate Minister for Social Development and Employment Priyanca Radhakrishnan announced today. Seven members of the Christchurch Muslim community have been appointed to the newly established Board, ...
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    22 hours ago
  • More young Kiwis supported with mental health and addiction services
    Nearly quarter of a million more young New Zealanders will have access to mental health and addiction support in their communities as the Government’s youth mental health programme gathers pace. New contracts to expand youth-specific services across the Northland, Waitematā and Auckland District Health Board areas have been confirmed, providing ...
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    2 days ago
  • New hospital facilities mean fewer trips to Auckland for Northlanders
    Northlanders will no longer automatically have to go to Auckland for lifesaving heart procedures like angiograms, angioplasty and the insertion of pacemakers, thanks to new operating theatres and a cardiac catheter laboratory opened at Whangārei Hospital by Health Minister Andrew Little today. The two projects – along with a new ...
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    2 days ago
  • Fair Pay Agreements to improve pay and conditions for essential workers
    The Government is delivering on its pre-election commitment to implement Fair Pay Agreements which will improve wages and conditions, as well as help support our economic recovery, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Michael Wood announced today. Fair Pay Agreements will set minimum standards for all employees and employers in an ...
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    2 days ago
  • Establishment of the new Māori Health Authority takes first big step
    Sir Mason Durie will lead a Steering Group to provide advice to the Transition Unit on governance arrangements and initial appointments to an interim board to oversee the establishment of the Māori Health Authority. This Group will ensure that Māori shape a vital element of our future health system, Minister ...
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    2 days ago
  • Cycle trails move up a gear in Central
    Work on new and upgraded cycle trails in Queenstown, Arrowtown and Central Otago is moving up a gear as two significant projects pass further milestones today. Tourism Minister Stuart Nash has announced new funding for the Queenstown Trails Project, and will also formally open the Lake Dunstan Trail at Bannockburn ...
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    2 days ago
  • Picton ferry terminal upgrade consent fast-tracked
    The planned upgrade of the Waitohi Picton Ferry terminal has been approved under the fast-track consenting process.  Environment Minister David Parker today welcomed the decision by the expert consenting panel to approve the Waitohi Picton Ferry Precinct Redevelopment Project.    The project will provide a significant upgrade to the ferry facilities ...
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    3 days ago
  • Quarantine Free Travel with New South Wales paused
    COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins has announced his intention to pause Quarantine Free Travel from New South Wales to New Zealand while the source of infection of the two cases announced in Sydney in the last two days is investigated.  Whole genome sequencing has linked the case yesterday to a recent ...
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    3 days ago
  • Covid-19 immigration powers to be extended
    The passing of a bill to extend temporary COVID-19 immigration powers means continued flexibility to support migrants, manage the border, and help industries facing labour shortages, Immigration Minister Kris Faafoi said. “Over the past year, we’ve made rapid decisions to extend visas, vary visa conditions and waive some application requirements ...
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    3 days ago
  • “Supporting a Trade-Led Economic Recovery”
    Trade Policy Road Show SpeechManukau, Auckland   Kia ora koutou – nau mai, haere mai ki Manukau, ki Tāmaki.   Good morning everyone, and thank you for this opportunity to discuss with you current global challenges, opportunities and the Government’s strategy in support of a trade-led recovery from the economic ...
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    3 days ago
  • Building consent numbers at an all-time high
    A record 41,028 new homes have been consented in the year ended March 2021 March 2021 consent numbers the highest since the 1940s Record number of new homes consented in Auckland The number of new homes consented is at an all-time high, showing a strong and increasing pipeline of demand ...
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    3 days ago
  • Whānau-centred support for parents and tamariki
    Up to 60 whānau in Counties Manukau will be supported through the first three years of their parenthood by a new whānau-centred model of care, said Associate Health Minister, Hon Aupito William Sio. “Providing this support to young parents is something we have to get right. It’s a priority both ...
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    3 days ago
  • NZ backs moves to improve global access to COVID vaccines
    New Zealand welcomes and strongly supports the announcement made by the United States Trade Representative to work for a waiver of IP protections on COVID-19 vaccines at the WTO, Trade Minister Damien O’Connor said. “New Zealand supports equitable access to COVID vaccines for all. No one is safe from the ...
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    3 days ago
  • Tourism communities: support, recovery and re-set plan
    TIHEI MAURI ORA Tuia te whakapono Tuia te tumanako Tuia te aroha Tuia te hunga ora Ki te hunga ora Tihei Mauri ora Ka nui te mihi ki a koutou Tena koutou, tena koutou, tena koutou katoa. Thank you, Hilary and thank you, Chris, and everyone at TIA for this ...
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    3 days ago
  • Support, recovery and re-set plan for tourism communities
    Five South Island tourist communities targeted for specialist support Pressure on Māori tourism operators and Conservation facilities recognised Domestic and international-facing tourism agencies put on more secure footing Long-term plan to re-set tourism with a focus on sustainability, industry standards and regional economic diversification A plan to ensure the immediate ...
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    3 days ago
  • Speech on NZ Rail Plan
    Check against delivery E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā karanga maha o te wa, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā tātou katoa. Ki ngā mana whenua o Taranaki Whānui anō nei aku mihi ki a koutou. Nōku te hōnore kia haere mai ki te whakanuia tēnei huihuinga whakahirahira. Nō ...
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    3 days ago
  • Government hits massive milestone in Violence Prevention & Elimination
    Minister for Family and Sexual Violence Marama Davidson announced a major milestone at a hui in South Auckland today, with the launch of the national engagement process on the prevention and elimination of family and sexual violence. “There is no room for violence in our lives – there is no ...
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    3 days ago
  • Fee waiver extended for conservation tourism businesses
    Tourism businesses operating on public conservation land will have another six months of fees waived to help them adjust to the downturn in international visitors in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, Acting Minister of Conservation Dr Ayesha Verrall has announced. "We acknowledge it has been a difficult year for ...
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    3 days ago
  • ‘Lua Wave’ to future-proof Pasifika Festivals in Aotearoa
    Pasifika festival organisers will receive additional support to adapt to the COVID-19 environment thanks to the Government’s newly launched ‘Lua Wave’ component of the Pasifika Festivals Initiative, Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Carmel Sepuloni announced today. “This initiative has not only been to support festival organisers to recover from ...
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    3 days ago
  • Crown accounts show confidence in Govt economic plan
    The Government’s financial accounts continue to reflect the resilience of the economy and confidence in the Government’s economic recovery plan. The Crown accounts for the nine months to the end of March 2021 show both OBEGAL and the operating balance remain better than forecast in the Half Year Economic and ...
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    3 days ago
  • Energy Trusts of NZ Autumn Conference
    It’s a pleasure to be here today. Thank you Karen [Sherry] for the introduction and thanks to the Energy Trusts Executive for inviting me to speak at tonight’s event. It is an exciting time to come to speak to trustees of distribution companies. For many decades the electricity industry was ...
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    3 days ago
  • New partnership to grow Māori success in STEM
    A new partnership with the Pūhoro STEM Academy will support thousands more rangatahi Māori to participate and succeed in the fields of science, technology, and innovation, Associate Education Minister Kelvin Davis announced today. Since 2016, Pūhoro has worked with Māori students to build their capability and create pathways to employment ...
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    3 days ago
  • Rail builds platform for economic recovery
    Transport Minister Michael Wood and State-Owned Enterprises Minister Dr David Clark today released the Government’s long term vision for a sustainable rail network that supports our economic recovery. New Zealand Rail Plan lays out how the Government is building a resilient, reliable and safe network, as well as the indicative ...
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    3 days ago
  • NZ and UK agree to lift the pace of free trade talks
    New Zealand and the United Kingdom have agreed to rapidly lift the tempo of talks, as the two countries enter a new phase in free trade negotiations, Trade and Export Growth Minister Damien O’Connor announced today. “UK Secretary of State for International Trade, Liz Truss, and I spoke today about ...
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    3 days ago
  • Counter-Terrorism Legislation Bill passes first reading
    The Counter-Terrorism Legislation Bill has passed its first reading and will now be considered by Parliament’s Justice select committee. “The Bill updates and improves New Zealand’s counter-terrorism legislation and ensures that the right legislative tools are available to intervene early and prevent harm,” Minister of Justice Kris Faafoi said. “The ...
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    3 days ago
  • Statement on The Speaker and Annual Review Debate
    “The serious issue of alleged sexual assault and harassment at Parliament was poorly managed and inappropriately politicised last night. The tone of the debate did not reflect well on Parliament as a whole,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “Any investigation of claims of sexual assault should be in a manner ...
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    4 days ago
  • Govt motoring towards zero-carbon buses and protecting drivers’ conditions
    Transport Minister Michael Wood is seeking feedback on options for the next phase of the Public Transport Operating Model (PTOM) review to better protect bus drivers’ pay conditions, and also achieving the Government’s target of fully decarbonising the public transport bus fleet by 2035. Michael Wood said investing in our ...
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    4 days ago
  • Drop in unemployment shows Govt economic plan is working
    The Government’s economic recovery plan continues to be reflected in the labour market, with more people in work and unemployment falling. Stats NZ figures show employment rose by 15,000 in the March quarter, with 14,000 more women in work. The unemployment rate fell from 4.9 percent to 4.7 percent. This ...
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    4 days ago
  • Government sets pay and workforce expectations for the Public Sector
    The Government’s Workforce Policy Statement issued today sets out its expectations for pay and employment relations in the Public Sector, the Minister of Finance and Minister for the Public Service say. “New Zealand has had an exceptionally successful health and economic response to COVID-19. This has been supported by the ...
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    4 days ago
  • Author Ben Brown is New Zealand’s first Te Awhi Rito Reading Ambassador
    Lyttleton writer Ben Brown (Ngāti Mahuta, Ngāti Koroki, Ngāti Paoa) will be New Zealand’s first Te Awhi Rito Reading Ambassador, promoting the value of reading for children and young people, Internal Affairs Minister Jan Tinetti announced today. A poet and award-winning author, Ben Brown writes books, non-fiction and short stories ...
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    5 days ago
  • Celebrating New Zealand’s firefighters this International Firefighters’ day
    With two fire stations already complete, and building underway on 16 fire stations around the country, today we celebrate International Firefighters’ Day for the important role firefighters have in keeping communities across the country safe, says Minister of Internal Affairs, Jan Tinetti. The work is progressing due to Government funding ...
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    5 days ago
  • Ron Brierley knighthood to go
    Ron Brierley has written to the Clerk of the Executive Council to tender his resignation as a Knight Bachelor. The Queen has been informed. The forfeiture follows the Prime Minister initiating the process to remove his Knighthood. The Clerk of the Executive Council wrote to him on 6 April 2021 ...
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    5 days ago
  • Employment boost for rural communities
    The Government is continuing to create opportunities for at-risk rangatahi overcome barriers to employment, education or training with the next tranche of He Poutama Rangatahi programmes, Minister for Social Development and Employment Carmel Sepuloni announced today. “We’re focused on supporting rangatahi to get what they need to progress in the ...
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    5 days ago
  • Pre-Budget speech to Wellington Chamber of Commerce
    Thank you for the invitation to speak today, it is great to be here.  I mean that both sincerely and literally. For this equivalent speech last year I took part virtually, beaming in from the Beehive Theatrette with only a socially distanced press gallery bearing silent witness. You are a ...
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    5 days ago
  • Budget 2021 reprioritises nearly $1 billion
    The Government’s strong pandemic response and the better than expected economic recovery means not all the money allocated in the COVID-19 Response and Recovery Fund has been spent, Grant Robertson said in his annual pre-Budget speech to the Wellington Chamber of Commerce this morning. “As part of Budget preparation I ...
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    5 days ago
  • Speech on Digital Identity Trust Framework
    I'd like to start by thanking Graeme, David and Ben from NZTech and Digital Identity New Zealand for inviting me to speak to you. I’m so sorry I can’t be there in person, but I want to acknowledge those of you who are, including some of this country’s top tech ...
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    6 days ago
  • NZ Cook Islands travel bubble significant step in COVID-19 recovery
    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Cook Islands Prime Minister Mark Brown have today announced that, pending final confirmation by New Zealand’s Director-General of Health and the Cook Islands Secretary of Health, two-way quarantine-free travel will commence between the two countries on 17 May (NZT). “Two way quarantine-free travel ...
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    6 days ago
  • Minister for State Owned Enterprises saddened by passing of KiwiRail Chair
    Minister for State Owned Enterprises, David Clark is deeply saddened to hear about the passing of KiwiRail Chairman, Brian Corban. “I know Brian was seen as a transformative leader within KiwiRail, well respected for his wisdom, honesty and sense of humour,” said David Clark. Mr Corban served as Chair of ...
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    6 days ago