Key’s performance in the House embarrassing

Written By: - Date published: 3:15 pm, May 13th, 2008 - 70 comments
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I’ve just watched the first Question Time in 3 weeks.

After 3 weeks’ recess and lots of potentially juicy material to use, here I was expecting the Leader of Nats to come down to the House and stick the knife into Labour. But instead… what we got was a extraordinarily limp performance by John Key.

He still relies almost totally on questions pre-written on little cards by his advisors, meaning he can’t think on his feet and change his line of questioning based on the answers he is getting, as English can. His attacks fall flat when he returns to the script. This is really just as bad as Brash. His one trick (at least one that Brash could never pull off) is his predictable, pre-rehearsed, snarky one-liner for the media.

Today was particularly bad. I’d be embarrassed if I were Bill English. He stuttered, he was clearly just reading his questions, I thought his lines of attack were weak, then he sat down.

One more thought: Key has no credibility to speak as if he knows what the average Kiwi family is going through with higher fuel and food prices – ha, he’s just got off a plane from Hawaii after spending a good deal of the 3 week Parliamentary recess at his new holiday mansion in Maui. A tough life.

This is the guy who wants to be our PM because, well, just because. At least he took his Hawaiian shirt off before coming into the House.

70 comments on “Key’s performance in the House embarrassing”

  1. Yet, despite being that bad (in your Opinion), a majority of Kiwis still prefer him to be Prime Minister than that subhuman creature we have now.

    Says a lot about Aunty Helen doesn’t it.

  2. It says a lot about you that you refer to her as ‘sub-human’.

    Lift your language, this isn’t Kiwiblog.

  3. Noddy (used to be Dr.No) 3

    And climbing the peaks of the world and Scandinavian skiing vacations are something the average kiwi does? You guys actually used to have something decent to say but these days it’s getting pretty pathetic mate…

  4. James Kearney 4

    Brett- too far.

    Dr.No- it’s pretty rich for John Key to claim he’s champion of the struggling Kiwi battler when he’s living in a mansion and casually swanning off to Hawaii for his holidays. Good on him for doing well and all but I’d rather he didn’t patronise us with his predictable focus grouped lines.

  5. mike 5

    “Key has no credibility to speak as if he knows what the average Kiwi family is going through”

    Why? Because he has been successful under his own steam. How much does Helen know about family life?
    Key is family man and good on him looking after his family and ensuring they are financially set up for life.

  6. Brett you fucktard. I read you lot with your women-hating and I can’t help but think you’re a bunch of repressed freaks. I recall your type from highschool. I imagine you’re still an acned little oik that no woman in her right mind would come near. Why the fu*k don’t you head back to your little cirlejerk site where you and the other sexless freaks can carry on giving each other greasy little handjobs while banging on with fetid breath about how you’d like to fu*k Carmin Electra. Honestly? freaks like you are so scared of women I almost feel sorry for you.

    [Sod that’s not helpful. You’ve already been warned.]

  7. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Take a look at your own language regarding Key and other right wing politicians.

    Bu

  8. Tane 8

    No one here has referred to Key and other right wing politicians as ‘sub-human’ or anything approaching it Brett. That is the language of genocide.

  9. Ted 9

    Can any politician – earning at least $113500 and usually with at least three personal staff – claim to be in touch with the concerns of average New Zealanders using your standard Sparkie?

    What about union leaders who from what I understand are rather well remunerated?

  10. Robinsod:

    Take some deep breathes, I didn’t call her subhuman because of her looks or cause she is a woman, (that is such a typical left wing attack)

    My comments had nothing to do with her being a woman, just like my comments against Turia has nothing to do with her being a Maori, its the Policies that make me sick to my stomach.

    I called her that because of her lies and her policies that have taken cash out of the hands of people all around NewZealand, I call her that, because she thinks she has the right to tell people how to think, what to eat, or how to talk.

    I call her that because of her bigoted polices, not because of her Gender, why cant those on the left get that? People on the right couldn’t care less if a Politician is a woman or a man or if they a Maori or if they are a Pakeha, or if they are Straight or Gay.

    Its too bad that all those on the left see.

    PS: Im not a fan of Carmen Electra!

  11. Ted 11

    Just as a sidebar, I find it kind of interesting that you are adopting the same rhetoric as Cameron Slater. He – or one of his sidekicks, it’s unclear – did a post a while back claiming that John Minto couldn’t legitimately criticise the value of property rights or advocate for the poor because he lives in a substantial Auckland villa with an attached flat.

    Now you’re saying someone who leads what is undoubtedly the middle class party can’t legitimately express middle class concerns because he happens to own an apartment in Hawaii. Perhaps Slater should start blogging here.

  12. Tane 12

    Ted, union officials (not to mention leaders) are paid well below market rates for the work they do. You can argue, as many on the right do, that they should work for minimum wage or something approaching it, but given the punishing work union officials do it would be neither fair nor practical.

  13. Ben R 13

    I can’t say I watch much of what happens in the House, other than the occasionaly snippet on the news. Who would be the best speaker these days? Who are the best orators?

  14. Tane:

    genocide???

    Yeppers, get a grip.

    No the Language of Genocide, is a bunch of peace activists telling me the day after 9/11 that “If you bomb the USA, you rid the world of its problems”

    Only someone from the left can be that sick.

  15. Ted 15

    Tane, I think you’ve avoided the substance of my comment.

    The point is that union leaders don’t earn the same amount as the people they represent but they can still represent them adequately. Would you agree with this proposition?

  16. Daveo 16

    Ted – your sidebar. I’ve worked with John Minto and he’s someone who has spent his life working with ordinary New Zealanders struggling on low wages. He may have a decent income himself (a $500,000 house in Auckland hardly qualifies as rich) but I have no doubt he knows what it’s like on the breadline. John Key has never done anything for working people. He has no idea other than what his focus groups tell him to say and no real policy to lift anyone out of poverty.

  17. Brett – I’ve checked out your blog. You’re part of that strange little subculture of lonely angry losers. Your type are better off staying at Whale’s place than coming here. Sorry bro, but that’s just the natural order of things…

    Ted – I think you mean “Just as an aside”. “Just as a sidebar” makes no sense. I thought you were supposed to be an educated tory…

  18. higherstandard 18

    Didn’t Key come from a fairly normal to tough background as a kid with the family in State Housing – surely this combined with his business success puts him in a position to see things from several angles.

  19. Tane 19

    The point is that union leaders don’t earn the same amount as the people they represent but they can still represent them adequately. Would you agree with this proposition?

    Union officials frequently earn less than their members. You seem to have the strange idea that union members are all on low incomes.

  20. James Kearney 20

    Didn’t Key come from a fairly normal to tough background as a kid with the family in State Housing – surely this combined with his business success puts him in a position to see things from several angles.

    He’s from a wealthy background but lived in a state house for a few years after his father died before the money came through. The rest is just PR.

  21. I don’t actually care where Key came from or where he goes on holiday. My concern is that his party consistently pushes policies that hurt the majority of Kiwis while rewarding an elite few and I see no change from that.

    Not that keen on this post veering into the Hawaii envy stuff myself but hey, it’s not my blog…

  22. Ben R 22

    “John Key has never done anything for working people.”

    Isn’t this a limited way of viewing people though? I mean, does that mean Helen Clark cannot relate to people who work in the private sector? Or who have children of their own?

  23. roger nome 23

    Brett what’s the point of this discussion? You’ve been caught out for trying to de-humanise someone that carries a lot of respect in this country, and people are understandably offended.

    Imagine if I went over to K-blog and called John Key a “sub-human” – If I wasn’t banned on the spot I would recieve stream after stream of bile and abuse. Take it on the chin and move on. Otherwise you’re just making this thread all about you, and how interesting is that for everyone else?

  24. higherstandard 24

    James

    That is as bizarre as saying Helen Clark is gay and her marriage to Peter Davis is just PR.

  25. Robinson:

    What was angry about my blog?

    I have done many positive posts about Gordon Ramsay, Ricky Gervais, Garth Brooks, the NewZealand cricket team, I have also done posts about funny signs and Jason Gunn and Tbag from Prison break?

    My blog is very positive in Nature.

    How am I, a lonely angry loser?

  26. Daveo 26

    Isn’t this a limited way of viewing people though? I mean, does that mean Helen Clark cannot relate to people who work in the private sector? Or who have children of their own?

    John Key claims to be the champion of working people and to be deeply in touch with their needs. I’m simply pointing out he’s done nothing for working people except promise to remove their rights. Judge people by their actions not their spin.

  27. Ted 27

    Tane, I could be wrong but I feel safe in saying that Laila Harre for example earns more than most NDU members. The EPMU and PSA are exceptions but I’d guess the same applies to UNITE!, the SWFU and the RMTU (these are the only unions that come to mind).

    Sod, great response bro – you really tore me to shreds. I’m pretty confident that my comment was auxiliary to an earlier comment and presented additional material so I’ll stick with just a sidebar.

  28. James Kearney 28

    That is as bizarre as saying Helen Clark is gay and her marriage to Peter Davis is just PR.

    Helen Clark herself has admitted she married Peter Davis because she was told she had to do so to be electable. I have no doubt their relationship is genuine.

    You can’t deny John Key has parlayed his brief stay in a state house into a PR exercise aimed at softening National’s image after the Brash years.

    Labour might point out that Key’s policies will hurt ordinary Kiwis… but then he’s that guy from a state house isn’t he?

  29. Brett – if you want psychoanalysis then I suggest you pay for it.

    Jeez these lonely angry types will stick to you even if you abuse them – any kind of attention is better than none I guess…

    HS – he has a point mate, I mean Key’s crew have basically promised nothing for workers except a tax cut and having a few of their rights taken off them…

  30. Roger:

    The point is, those on the left can throw as much as mud as they like, but get upset and give false accusations against anyone who doesn’t put Aunty Helen on a Pedestal.

    My comments on Clark, was because of her Policies. But as usual the leftys took it as a post against woman.

  31. Um Ted, you really should look that “sidebar” thing up properly. As for your Laila argument? I’d just give it up now bro.

  32. Ted 32

    Brah:

    1. A short, often boxed auxiliary news story that is printed alongside a longer article and that typically presents additional, contrasting, or late-breaking news.

  33. Robinson:

    Stick to mud slinging and personal abuse, just like your party of choice.

    I rather vote for party that sticks with policies that will help the people of this country.

  34. Tane 34

    I rather vote for party that sticks with policies that will help the people of this country.

    Brett’s voting Green. Well done Brett.

    [captcha: smoke Governments]

  35. Tane 35

    Ted. I’m not sure what your point is. I don’t think what you earn precludes you from representing people on lower incomes, though there is a danger you can become out of touch if you’re not careful. Union leaders are not immune from this, which is why I support democratic unionism where members rather than leaders control their union. As I say, I’m still not sure what your point is.

  36. Ted – that’s a definition that is contextualized by the act of formatting. I could be generous and assume that you mean to use it metaphorically but in this case there is too much shared ground between the tenor and the vehicle for it to escape being effectively a metonymy and frankly? It doesn’t work as such.

    Brett: you wouldn’t know “people” if you bumped into them you retard.

  37. Tane:

    HAHA!

    A party that wants to make Dope legal, a party that has closed off all debate on climate change, a party that will tax everybody so high that noone will have money, a party that will cut all military ties.

    They are probably the worst party that anyone could vote for.

  38. Brett – there is no such word as “noone”.

  39. higherstandard 39

    Sod

    Poppycock to say that Key being raised in a state house was just because it took a few years for his dads money to come through is rubbish.

    One could certainly argue that he had more of ‘normal’ or should we say ‘average’ upbringing than many of those currently in parliament.

    I really can’t see why this blog continues to demonise him the one time he had a chance to actually influence any policy since coming into politics was with s59 in which he sided with Helen – incidentally I disagreed with his position there.

  40. higherstandard 40

    Can you take poppycock out of the moderated words file it’s far better than the usual abuse on the site.

    [lprent: It isn’t in there – cock is, along with tablets, movie, dvd… I’ll give you a guess what the spammers are trying to sell. At present we’re getting the medical dictionary once they found that sex and movies get moderated. If I remove the sex ones from the moderation, we start getting some really disgusting links.

    Somewhere there is either a very good graphics programmer or someone with a *lot* of time on their hands, because they’re getting this stuff through those smudgy recaptcha entries.

    I could give you a list of interesting alternatives that won’t violate the moderation words. The 19th century generated some very interesting explitives]

  41. leftie 41

    Ted…If a union leader helps me achieve great pay and conditions in a contract settlement at work, then they deserve every cent they get!

  42. roger nome 42

    Brett-

    The point is that venting bile by calling respected people names is not a way to start an interesting debate. It’s a way to start a flame war. You messed up. Get over it.

    “A party that wants to make Dope legal”

    Alcahol has a greater cost to society. Should that be banned as well? Als the cost of enforcing prohibition on pot is far greater than what it saves (a recent report commisioned by the government confirms this log-suspected fact).

    “a party that has closed off all debate on climate change”

    We go with what all of the National Science Academies of the industrialised world. Who do you go with? The laughable, rag-tag, pseudo-science organisation that is the “climate science coalition”?

    “a party that will tax everybody so high that noone will have money”

    The Green parties policy is to shift tax from income to pollution/waste, and cut tax for low-income people. Tax wouldn’t be increased.

    “a party that will cut all military ties.”

    No they don’t. And it’s likely that the next regime in the US will thank us for not going into Iraq.

  43. roger nome 43

    HS:

    “Poppycock to say that Key being raised in a state house was just because it took a few years for his dads money to come through is rubbish.”

    Back in Key’s day even middle-class families were eligible for state housing. He was never a pauper.

  44. roger nome 44

    shit – sorry about the grammar all.

  45. higherstandard 45

    Nome

    Not saying he was a pauper however this post portrays him as not knowing about ordinary NZ as per the second to last paragraph of the post – clearly that is wrong as ordinary NZ is where he came from.

  46. Lew 46

    Bloody worthless comment thread, this. Stop your bickering, it’s like bloody Kiwiblog.

    For what it’s worth, I agree that Key’s performance in parliament is weak – he’s clearly not a politician by trade. But as to whether it’s embarrassing; that’s for the caucus to decide, and so far they seem right in behind him.

    The lesson in this is that there’s more to politics than the cut and thrust of the debating chamber. I don’t understand how this comes as a great shock to anyone.

    L

  47. randal 47

    Key’s m.o. is much like the big swinging dicks exemplified in Michael Lewis’ book “Liars Poker”. He has the sort of mentality necessary for firing losers from a brokerage but no politician ever gets those sorts of privileges in a democracy

  48. Pinetree 48

    “Key has no credibility to speak…”

    You’re kidding me right? Benefit of the doubt to you, you’re “having a turkish”….least I hope you are….as I suspect it’s not really a measure by which many in Parliament wish to be judged….

    Anyhow, JK’s perf. during QT in the house – in this day and age, is perception still reality in respect of a public assessment of political skills in that arena…? Probably so, but my guess is many other factors weigh as heavily, and that’s partly a result of QT fulfilling a lesser ‘accountability’ role these days…perhaps more show than susbtance…? Who knows…but still entertaining…

  49. hey 49

    Whoa. This is the new sting line from the left? That Key was ALWAYS a ‘rich prick’? Anyone got anything to support the claim that his mother’s income made her ‘middle class’ by the standards of the day or that after a few years of languishing in a state house ‘the money came through’ and freed him from being in a middle class (single parent) family?

  50. vto 50

    You sound a bit snarky sparkie.

    And envious.

    You know, many people dont givt two hoots about performance in the ‘house’. They are more concerned about getting decent policies in place.

    This imho typifies the blind allegiance to Clark et al – sure they are supremely competent political operators (who can come out with the quick and witty one-liner, and carry out the most sublime back-stabbing political subterfuge, etc) but at the end of the day they have little idea of the type of policies that actually accomplish things (oh, except how to hand out other people’s money – they are good at that)

    A talent at politics does not equate to a talent for anything else.

    It is like you’re all hypnotised by some of those spirally clown glasses.

  51. randal 51

    vto if your opinion is humble then it aint worth very much

  52. “This is the guy who wants to be our PM because, well, just because.”
    Learn about the federal reserve to whom John Key was an “upon invitation only “advisor””
    http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/g-edward-griffin-on-the-federal-reserve-of-new-york/

  53. forgetaboutthelastone 53

    “ordinary NZ is where he came from.”

    show me any other ordinary new zealander who goes to a market and sniffs the vegetables.

  54. higherstandard 54

    forgetfull

    Suggest you log on Eve’s website you would make a perfect couple

  55. Billy 55

    Travellerev uncovers another conspiracy. She’s going at one a day. How long can she keep this up!

  56. Billy,

    there is only one conspiracy. A small group of very rich and powerfull individuals against the rest of us.
    And because you choose to stay uninformed and dumb they can get away with it.

    And higherstandard: o father(yeah I recon you’re a bloke, you act to stupid and aggressive to be a woman)of all ignoramuses keep sending them over, because I get record numbers of hits of people who choose to inform themselves rather than stay stupid.

    First they ignore you, then the ridicule you, then they fight you and then you win. Mahatma Gandi.

  57. Forgetful

    Consider yourself invited

  58. vto 58

    “First they ignore you, then the ridicule you, then they fight you and then you win. Mahatma Gandi.”

    Brilliant

  59. higherstandard 59

    It’s Ghandi, Eve

    Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.

  60. Billy 60

    Ev, you used the wrong “too” when complaining HS was stupid.

  61. Pascal's bookie 61

    “It’s Ghandi, Eve

    Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

    Make up your mind HS.

  62. English is my second language, I think I’m managing a lot better in your language than you would in mine Billy, try pronouncing “klootzak”
    it’s Dutch for asshole.

  63. Billy 63

    Why would I have occasion to be so base, Travellerev? Remember, I wasn’t the one running around saying everyone who disagreed with me was stupid.

  64. Phil 64

    “show me any other ordinary new zealander who goes to a market and sniffs the vegetables.”

    I love the smell of well grown fresh vegetables. It’s right up there with the ‘new car smell’.

  65. Phil 65

    “First they ignore you, then the ridicule you, then they fight you and then you win”

    I thought it was a line in a Robbie Williams song

  66. higherstandard 66

    PB

    I blame my keyboard !

  67. Billy

    I have absolutely no problem with people disagreeing with me.
    I have put forth links to video’s and websites to help people inform themselves over what is arguably the most important event in recent history. The attacks of 911. I have had record numbers of people come to my site and I take it that this is because people want to learn or even to just have a giggle or whatever.
    If you had informed yourself and found holes in the evidence that a great many professionals and scientists had accumulated over the last 6.5 years and had confronted me with that I would have been happy to accept your proof and get on with my life because it is hard work being a 911 truther. So far I have only heard asinine remarks about being a conspiracy nut but absolutely no evidence to support the official “Conspiracy theory”.
    The official 911 investigation is riddled with contradictions. The collapse of WTC 7 has never even been mentioned in the rapport, and the family members and survivors say that 70 % of their questions have not been answered. We want a new investigation, not because we think we know who did it, but because it scientifically impossible for 19 young men to have been able to do it and now we would like to know who could have done it. We do know that two wars have been started as a result of that day and a third is in the making, so if 19 Arabs could not do it than who did, and if they didn’t do it than why are we engaged in two wars with Arabs (and Pashtuns and other ethnicities)
    If I call you dumb it is not because you disagree with me, but because you lack the where with all to make the effort to educate yourself and draw conclusions based on fact rather that the official hogwash they’ve been feeding us. Informed debate is bringing in valid arguments, not ridiculing someone because she brings facts and arguments to the table to which you have not been previously exposed.

  68. Oh and Billy,

    You say that I see a conspiracy when it concerns John Key and the Federal Reserve of New York, well actually it is not even secret.
    It’s all out in the open. the biographies of all the private owners of the worlds money supply are quit happy to admit to their crimes and they function quit in the open.
    Read this article for example: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0709/S00549.htm
    And the previous link that I gave is a presentation by a guy who has read all these biographies when he researched for his book “the creature from Jekyll Island. You should try just for the fun of it to go to some of these links.

  69. expat 69

    Eve you are a lunatic. Those guys did fly planes into buildings. Their mates did blow up buses in London, their mates did blow up tourists in Bali.

    Go and live in the land of truth somewhere in the middle east if you feel that strongly about living in a capitalist democracy. In fact – You dont deserve to have residency in NZ.

  70. Travellerev:

    You have so much hate for things western, that you believe in the wacko conspiracy theories.

    I suppose all the attacks against Israel are made up to?

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    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    2 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    3 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    3 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Contempt
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    4 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    4 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    4 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    5 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
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    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    6 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    7 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    7 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago

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