Key’s sham “consultation” an insult to Māori

Written By: - Date published: 10:19 am, February 11th, 2016 - 17 comments
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There was some good reporting from 95bFM last week, audio of a Key media session. Here’s a transcript:

Key: There’s been more consultation on TPP than probably anything else you can name.

And, actually, we listened very very carefully to Māori. We said, ‘Absolutely, we hear you about the treaty.’ And we absolutely had a carve-out clause for that.

Audrey Young: Are you saying this consultation took place during the negotiations, not after?

Key: Think after, [blah blah blah]

Minder: Sorry we really have to go.

John-Michael: Can it be called consultation if it’s after the fact that the deal has already been made?

Key: Yeah, course it can.

Could he be more condescending?

This is Key’s style when “consulting” with Māori of course, as per the shameful Supercity process. And people wonder why he gets such a rough reception at Waitangi.

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  1. Nck 1
    11 February 2016 at 10:23 am

    It doesn’t matter what topic you ask him, he will look you in the eye and lie through his teeth.

    • Kevin 1.1
      11 February 2016 at 1:27 pm

      It’s his default position.

      Every time he is asked a question that he is not prepared for his first instinct is to lie.

      It no longer surprises me.

  2. M. Gray 2
    11 February 2016 at 10:49 am

    What is the point in having a carve out clause when there has been very little or no consultation. This government has shown they will do what they like when they like and they know best. Maori don’t trust them and I don’t blame them the concept of partnership is a joke.

  3. ianmac 3
    11 February 2016 at 11:55 am

    The traditional stereotypical car salesman says this and that but later twists and turns and denies and fudges.
    So instead of retiring to Hawaii as a bloated politician, a perfect job for Key is as car salesman.

    • esoteric pineapples 3.1
      11 February 2016 at 2:59 pm

      You are being a tad unfair on car salesmen by comparing them with John Key

      I was talking to one car salesmen and he said members of the public are always trying put one over him.

  4. Tc 4
    11 February 2016 at 1:20 pm

    bFM showing how lame and under the nact thumb the msm are

  5. Mosa 5
    11 February 2016 at 2:11 pm

    A guy as corrupt as the current prime minister must have a shady past.
    He is a lot like Richard Nixon the difference is the media hated Nixon and were instrumental in his downfall.
    No such luck here unfortunately except for a couple of blog sites doing all the spade work
    Winston always had his contacts in the National party…nothing doing there.
    I guess Dirty politics was as close as we got but others took the fall.
    You can fool kiwis some of the time 9 to 15 years probably in this case before they wake up and realise the product is faulty.

  6. NZSage 6
    11 February 2016 at 3:39 pm

    And the use of the “I think” phrase is very contrived.

    It’s a mitigation strategy for when he get’s called out for his frequent lies, although he’s not called out nearly enough by our myopic mainstream media.

  7. Et Tu Brute 7
    11 February 2016 at 3:50 pm

    Negotiations were confidential and a rightly so. No other way to allow honesty and open discourse between nations. Certainly wouldn’t happen if everything was recorded and broadcast. Same happens in legal disputes here in New Zealand and for the same reasons.

    The correct way to deal with this would be for the government to consult with Maori at the beginning of the negotiations to set bottom lines and expectations and then after the negotiations are complete to say “this is what has been agreed upon”.

    The first stage was started by Labour over ten years ago. The second stage is happening now. Negotiations have finished and we can now decide whether we like the deal and will ratify it. So unfortunately John Key is right.

    • Gabby 7.1
      11 February 2016 at 5:00 pm

      Sounds like contradictory bullshit Brutie. ‘Honesty and open discourse’ has to be secret? Double yewty eff?

      • Et Tu Brute 7.1.1
        11 February 2016 at 7:57 pm

        Honest and open discourse can happen in a closed environment. Take mediation in an employment dispute as an example. The idea is that by making all discussion confidential and without prejudice both sides are able to come to the table and let some of their guard done. The point isn’t that the discourse is “honest and open” to everyone but that it is open and honest toward other parties in the discussion.

        • stever 7.1.1.1
          11 February 2016 at 8:52 pm

          So why were multinational corporations “in” on that closed environment then? Governments…yes OK, might make sense. But private business??

          Makes your reasoning seem a little disingenuous.

  8. Bernard 8
    11 February 2016 at 3:51 pm

    he also uses the word `So` in response to a question,which a lot of the times gets him off answering properly.He usually goes off on a tangent without really answering the question with a yes or no.

  9. repateet 9
    11 February 2016 at 5:46 pm

    John Key is a lying bastard. (Am i allowed to say that?)

    He is abetted by appalling ‘journalists’ working for appalling media outlets.

  10. Lloyd 10
    11 February 2016 at 10:17 pm

    Makes you wonder why the Maori Party is even talking to National, let alone supporting them.
    The way FJK has treated Maoris seems to be worse than the issues that got the Maori Party opposing Labour.

  11. Smilin 11
    12 February 2016 at 2:42 pm

    More lies and video from Da Fuhrer and Im going to keep calling Key that till hes gone from these shores