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Labour’s 2008 list

Written By: - Date published: 2:39 pm, August 31st, 2008 - 40 comments
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Comment soon but for now here’s their full list (PDF link).

Scoop’s got their presser up.

[lprent:
Handmirror: A Woman’s Place: The Labour Party List.
No Right Turn: Labour’s list: looks like New Zealand.
Granny Herald: Surprise picks in Labour party list.
Salient: The Labour list has been announced.
Grant Robertson: Wellington central candidate
]

40 comments on “Labour’s 2008 list”

  1. george 1

    Well that should put the cat among the right wing pigeons.

  2. principessa 2

    That scoop link has a heap of typos on it- there’s a few incrrect bits like lesley at 77- i don’t think that’s right

  3. Daveo 3

    Good to see Jacinda Adern so high on the list.

  4. bill brown 4

    Stuff says 77 too – idiots, so much for professional “journalists”

  5. Ross Miller 5

    Hmmmmmmmmm. Jacinda Adern, 26 YO living in London where she is “Chief Policy Advisor to the Home Secretary, Sir Ronald Flanagan”.

    Problem is the Home Secretary is Jacqui Smith and there are five other Ministers in the Home Office … but no Sir Ronald Flanagan.

    Has someone been doctoring their c.v. or has JA forgotten whom she works for. I thought you guys would have learnt your lesson after the Mary-Anne Thompson affair.

    Shambolic end to a shambolic week for labour.

  6. lprent 6

    Looks like the moderating committee did a pretty good job..

  7. So doubtless a_y_b you’ll have lots of comment about the diversity of the Labour list – just as Steve did when National’s list was released.

    Nats: some of us look like youse

    Sauce for the goose stuff I would have thought…

    So Lesley Soper isn’t REALLY at #77?

  8. Vanilla Eis 8

    Two things:

    No George Hawkins? They’re treating him quite badly these days.

    Who the hell is Rajen Prasad, and what has he done to deserve #12?

  9. lprent 9

    IV2: You could just read the PDF to find out about Lesley Soper – I assume you can read PDF’s.

    Or was that a rhetorical question?

    I see that “Ross Miller” is a reader of No Minister. I suppose that we’ll have the blogs of the right going on about whatever this is for days. Quite boring and yet another round of triviality.

    Hopefully the Nat’s will release some more ‘policy’ (a4 bullet points) so we can discuss that.

  10. Very rhetorical Lynn!!

    But don’t get into the debate about policy – not when this kind of info is in the public domain!!

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/?q=content/eight-new-faces-labour-list

  11. gobsmacked 11

    If we’re going to get excited about politicians’ CV vagueness, here’s John Key’s:

    http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/MPP/MPs/MPs/3/7/8/48MP78101-Key-John.htm

    Compare that with the version in the Herald profile, and other public statements, when he professed a lifelong adherence to National.

    So, when did he leave the National Party, and why?

  12. Inv2. 6 women in the top 30 on the Nat list, 12 in Labour – 40%, which is more than they have now.

    The top 20 of the Nat list is 80% pakeha male, 45% of the Lab top 20 – much more like the actual population.

    which indicates labour is selecting from a cross section of the population, whereas national represents the old power grouping – rich pakeha males

  13. Janet 13

    Great to see Jacinda Adern up there – a future PM if ever there was.

  14. Julie 14

    Here’s some shameful self-promotion – some analysis of the gender balance of Labour’s list:
    http://thehandmirror.blogspot.com/2008/08/womans-place-labour-party-list.html

    It’s quite a startling contrast with National, imho, and not just in terms of gender either.

  15. Quoth the Raven 15

    Who the hell is Rajen Prasad, and what has he done to deserve #12?

    Read the link:
    The highest ranking non-MP at number 12 is Dr Rajen Prasad the
    former Chief Families Commissioner and former Race Relations Conciliator. Dr Prasad has 40 years experience promoting positive relations amongst all New Zealand peoples, including social work, teaching and advocacy for families.

  16. Tim Ellis 16

    Ross, from a google search Sir Ron Flanagan is certainly not the Home Secretary. He is the chief inspector of constabulary at the home office. This organisation seems to be a police monitoring and advisory body. From what I’ve heard she’s very smart. Interesting that some of the hard-working up-and-comers from times past, like Jordan Carter, Michael Wood, Conor Roberts, and Kate Sutton have been given such a poor ranking on this list. I’m also surprised Hamish McDouall was rated so low.

    Bill Brown, I wouldn’t blame Stuff for the list. Apparently Labour sent out three different versions. The first one had Judith Tizard as first equal.

    I am surprised at the number of new people on Labour’s list. They’ve done much better than I expected. No doubt the consequence will be a lot of ruffled feathers from MPs in unwinnable spots, but they’ve done well to be so bold given the need for renewal. I’ve had a bit to do with Raymond Huo a few times professionally, and he’s a nice, sharp guy. Rajen Prasad is hardly an agent for change, but Jacinda, Raymond, Phil Twyford, Carol Beaumont, Carmel Sepaloni and Stuart Nash should sneak through as new list MPs.

    I think Labour are being very optimistic about winning Maungakiekie. Carol Beaumont will have a real struggle winning it from Sam Lotu-Iiga. It seems even more likely that Judith Tizard will lose her seat to Nikki Kaye so will have to rely on Labour’s party vote holding up to stay in on the list.

  17. lprent 17

    IV2: Kind of different though.

    Labour are doing their policies from 2005 and releasing new stuff all of the time.

    National are just dreaming about their policies happening. Problem was that they were saying that they weren’t the policies from 2005. But they really haven’t said what their policies are, apart from A4 bullet points that are really just agenda notes.

    Do you really read that fool Whale ?

  18. bill brown 18

    “I wouldn’t blame Stuff for the list”

    They’re supposed to fcuking check – after all they do espouse to being “professionals” – any idiot can cut and paste from a press release.

    FFS – anyone with 1/2 a brain would have had some alarm bells going off especially since they also have some dross about needing 75% of the vote to get in or something. Pathetic, as usual.

  19. deemac 19

    if the journos don’t know who the UK home sec is unless someone writes it down for them – well it says it all, really…

  20. Tim Ellis 20

    Bill brown, you mean what, precisely? The Labour Party sends out one of its most important press releases of the year, and the media are supposed to assume that there is a high possibility that Labour would probably put out the wrong list.

    Don’t get me wrong, this was not a huge fuck-up from Labour. But it was Labour’s fuck-up. It wasn’t the media’s fuck-up.

  21. I don’t usually have kind words for Labour, but I’m mighty impressed with that list.

    Fresh thinking is going to be needed to create the kind of New Zealand I’m enthusiastic about. Too many of the older Labour MPs in the last two terms have stood in the way of change.

    There are plenty of fresh minds in that list (both incumbent and newcomers). I was thinking the other day about which Labour MPs I have a lot of time for, and am very pleasantly surprised to see they’ve almost all done very well in this list. I don’t know some of the non-MPs, but I’ve heard good things about a number of them.

    When compared with the Green list it is also an inditement of the relative lack of cultural diversity in the Greens – which they’re going to need to deal with if they are to ever break past the “clean rivers and safe food” constituency and get out of the 5% ghetto.

  22. bill brown 22

    Tim, if this was:

    a) An isolated piece of cut-and-paste journalism
    b) Not compounded by the 75% of vote needed sensationalist beat up
    c) Not by a service that some how thinks they’re more professional than others
    d) Not STILL on their site – linked to the correct list

    I’d be tempted to cut them some slack.

  23. Gosh, that makes me sound ageist! Just to clarify, I meant the MPs who had been in Parliament for long periods of time.

  24. George: I feel the same way – it’s a list aimed at renewing the party, which dumps the dead wood, and which looks like New Zealand. And yes, the Greens definitely need to work harder on their diversity as well (though they’ve at lest got gender equality sorted).

  25. Lynn Prentice said “Do you really read that fool Whale ?”

    DEFINITELY worth a read tonight Lynn, if you like a good corruption movie!

  26. lprent 26

    IV2: Look I could read the “NZ Truth” and it’d have a higher fact to speculation ratio than the stuff that Whale peddles.

    Basically he tries to do an incompetent copy of Wishart’s journalist style, a few facts and a lot of sly insinuations. Unfortunately he doesn’t seem to realize that you have to actually have to have sufficient facts to validate your opinions. Probably explains why he had to move sites recently.

    I seldom visit the site unless I’m tracking down the source of speculation for something I find offensive. Between Whales and No Minister I usually find it pretty well immediately. If it isn’t there then I look in the cesspit of the Kiwiblog comments section.

  27. Julie 27

    Thanks for the linky love 🙂 I wondered why we getting so many hits on a Sunday night!

  28. Lynn – you’re always welcome at my site, and it’s movie night there as well. You can watch something funny from earlier in the day, or there’s something more topical….

  29. lprent 29

    Julie: I was looking around for more commentary on the list because our one was a bit light. So I added the links as I found them.

  30. Bill 30

    Good to see so many genuine workers on that there list.

    The Labour Party should be taken to the advertising standards commission for continuing to use what is a grossly misleading label.

    [a worker is anyone who works (or wants to work) and is not a capitialist. if you work on capital that someone else owns and the products of your labour don’t belong to you, you are a worker. Now, it’s never been the case that you get people coming straight from the factory floor to Parliament, there is a skill set that is needed to be an MP and most people develop those skills in other roles before becoming MPs – eg as union officials. Of course, one doesn’t have to be working on the factory floor to understand or represent the interests of workers – in fact having specialist, fulltime reps helps create a better voice for workers, specialisation leads to better effiency, that’s a foundation of human economy. That said, there are people who would fit your definition of a worker on the labour list, take don pryde – he’s the president of the EPMU but his day job is as a linesworker… he took his first media phonecall after his nomination for clutha-southland up a power pole. SP]

  31. dave 31

    he took his first media phonecall after his nomination for clutha-southland up a power pole
    So lets change the name of EPMU to EMUP – Electrical Man Up Pole. Now, back the the scampi video…..

  32. Phil 33

    “a worker is anyone who works (or wants to work) and is not a capitialist. if you work on capital that someone else owns and the products of your labour don’t belong to you, you are a worker. ”

    Steve,

    I really thought that kind of attitude died out in the 70’s when the vast majority of hippies grew up and got haircuts…

    For someone so tech savvy, why do you live in the past?

  33. Anita 34

    Phil,

    So how do you define a worker?

  34. Julie 35

    So Phil what’s your definition of a worker then? Rather just saying Steve is wrong, perhaps you’d like to explain what you think would be right?

  35. Anita 36

    Julie,

    *snap* 🙂

  36. Julie 37

    what can I say, great minds think alike! 🙂

  37. Bill 38

    SP.
    “Now, it’s never been the case that you get people coming straight from the factory floor to Parliament” and then on Don Pryde – “his day job is as a linesworker” Erm, so anyway.

    The rest of your response comes down to a basic assertion that co-ordinators and managers understand my interests better than me or my peers. Coz they’re specialists.

    And this disempowerment ( you call it representation) of us ‘punters’ by our ‘betters’ is “a foundation of human economy”!!??

    It’s an aspect of representative parliamentary systems, but is it desirable? Is it right? Or does the concentration of decision making and power into fewer hands lead to undesirable outcomes? A cursory glance at the world as it is today should suffice to answer that one.

  38. if you call it illegitimate, you’ve already made your decision.

    i’m not sure what you want, direct democracy? i’m all for deeper democracy but there’s obvious benefits in having representatives who have the time and specialisation to make well-informed decisions.

    i am certainly not saying that people with experience in jobs like leading a union are ‘better’ than others, far from it, in fact i find it hugely insulting you would put such words in my mouth.

  39. Bill 40

    Steve.

    What you said was that specialists are better positioned to represent my interests. Generally, that entails an expectation that people will defer to them…in common parlance their ‘betters’.

    No insult intended. I did not say they were somehow better apes then the rest of us and didn’t imply that you said any such thing either.

    Steve, if I want to construct a table, it would be sensible to attain a certain skill set associated with such a project.

    And if I wanted to represent other peoples’ interests, it would be sensible to to attain a skill set for that too.

    The question is, as I said before (and it seems you jumped in before my edit):- Is it desirable to concentrate decision making power into fewer hands?

    If it’s not, then where are the spaces in which we can develop the skills to represent our own interests…develop deeper democratic institutions?

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  • Government will support the people and economy of Southland
    The Government will support the Southland economy in the wake of multinational mining company Rio Tinto’s decision to follow through with its long signalled closure of the Tiwai Point aluminium smelter. “This day has unfortunately been on the cards for some time now, but nevertheless the final decision is a ...
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  • New transformational tools for the Predator Free 2050 effort
    New tools being developed to help boost Aotearoa’s Predator Free 2050 effort were unveiled today by Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage and Under Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau. A new rat poison, a camera with predator recognition software to detect and report predators, a new predator lure and a ...
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  • New Armoured vehicles for New Zealand Army
    The Coalition Government has approved the purchase of a fleet of Bushmaster vehicles to replace the New Zealand Army’s armoured Pinzgauers, Defence Minister Ron Mark has announced today. The new fleet of 43 Australian-designed and built Bushmaster NZ5.5 will provide better protection for personnel and improved carrying capacity. “The age ...
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  • Community-led solutions to prevent family violence
    The Government’s three prevention frameworks to reduce family violence in Aotearoa were launched this week by Associate Minister for Social Development Poto Williams.   The frameworks were developed in partnership with communities around New Zealand, and build on the work the Government has already begun with its new family violence prevention ...
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  • Govt confirms investment in better radiology and surgical services for Hawke’s Bay
    The Government is pleased to confirm funding for improvements to radiology and surgical services at Hawke's Bay DHB, Health Minister Chris Hipkins says.     "The Minister of Finance the Hon Grant Robertson and former Health Minister Dr David Clark approved funding for Hawke's Bay DHB’s redevelopment of their radiology facilities ...
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  • Specialist alcohol and drug addiction services strengthened across New Zealand
    •    New funding for four beds at Napier’s Springhill Residential Addiction Centre •    A new managed withdrawal home and community service, and peer support before and after residential care at Tairāwhiti DHB  •    A co-ordinated network of withdrawal management services throughout the South Island •    Peer support in Rotorua and ...
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  • Coastal Shipping Webinar
    Introduction, seafarers and POAL Good morning everyone, I am delighted to be online with you all today. Before I begin, I have to acknowledge that COVID-19 has disrupted the maritime sector on an unprecedented scale. The work of seafarers and the maritime industry is keeping many economies around the world ...
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  • Support for resilient rail connection to the West Coast
    A $13 million investment from Government will create jobs and improve the resilience of the rail connection between Christchurch and the West Coast, Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones and Regional Economic Development Under-Secretary Fletcher Tabuteau say. The funding comes from the tagged contingency set aside in Budget 2020 for infrastructure projects ...
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  • Major investment in safe drinking water
    The Government is investing $761 million to assist local government upgrade under-pressure water services across the country, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta announced today.  The announcement was made at the site of the water bore that was found to be the source of the fatal ...
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  • Supporting stranded seasonal workers to keep working with more flexible options
    Recognised Seasonal Employers and migrant seasonal workers stranded in New Zealand will be able to continue working and supporting themselves with more flexible hours and roles, says Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway. The time-limited visa changes are: Stranded RSE workers will be able to work part-time (a minimum of 15 hours ...
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  • Relief for temporary migrants, employers and New Zealanders who need work
    The Government is making immediate short-term changes to visa settings to support temporary migrants already onshore in New Zealand and their employers, while also ensuring New Zealanders needing work are prioritised, Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. We are: Extending temporary work visas due to expire by the end of 2020 ...
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    6 days ago
  • Freshwater commissioners and fast-track consenting convenor appointed
    Professor Peter Skelton CNZM has been appointed as Chief Freshwater Commissioner and Alternate Environment Court Judge Craig James Thompson as Deputy Chief Freshwater Commissioner for the newly established Freshwater Planning Process (FPP). Environment Minister David Parker today also announced the appointment of Chief Environment Court Judge Laurie Newhook as the ...
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  • Appointment of Judge of the High Court
    Auckland Queen’s Counsel Neil Campbell has been appointed a Judge of the High Court, Attorney‑General David Parker announced today. Justice Campbell graduated with a BCom and LLB (Hons) from the University of Auckland in 1992. He spent two years with Bell Gully Buddle Weir in Auckland before travelling to the United ...
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  • Feedback sought – Commercial Film and Video Production Facilities
    The Associate Minister for Greater Christchurch Regeneration, Poto Williams, is seeking feedback on a proposal to better enable the development and operation of commercial film and video facilities in Christchurch. The Proposal, developed by Regenerate Christchurch in response to a request from Christchurch City Council, asks that powers under section ...
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    6 days ago
  • Govt launches bold primary sector plan to boost economic recovery
    The Government has launched a bold plan to boost primary sector export earnings by $44 billion over the next decade, while protecting the environment and growing jobs. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today released Fit for a Better World – Accelerating our Economic Potential, a 10-year roadmap to unlock greater value ...
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    6 days ago
  • Wellbeing of whanau at heart of new hub
    A new approach to prevent family harm that encourages greater collaboration across government and community groups is being celebrated at the opening of a new facility in Auckland. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today opened the Multi-Disciplinary Family Harm Prevention Hub Te Taanga Manawa in Lambie Road in Manukau. The facility ...
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  • New Report on Auckland Port Relocation
    The Government has released a major new report on the options for relocating the Port of Auckland’s freight operations while deferring any decision on the issue. “That decision needs to be informed by policy analysis that is still to be completed. As a result it will be up to a ...
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  • Dual place names for Te Pātaka-o-Rākaihautū / Banks Peninsula features
    The history of Rāpaki is being restored through the inclusion of te reo in thirteen official place names on Te Pātaka-o-Rākaihautū / Banks Peninsula and around Lyttelton Harbour/Whakaraupō, the Minister for Land Information, Eugenie Sage, announced today.   “I am pleased to approve the proposals from Te Hapū o Ngāti ...
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  • Government and Air New Zealand agree to manage incoming bookings
    Bookings for seats on Air New Zealand flights into New Zealand will be managed in the short term to ensure the Government is able to safely place New Zealanders arriving home into a managed isolation or quarantine facility, says Housing Minister Megan Woods.  “Last week Air Commodore Darryn Webb and I ...
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  • $80 million for sport recovery at all levels
    Grant Robertson has today announced the first major release of funding from the $265 million Sport Recovery Package announced at Budget 2020.  “Today we’re setting out how $80 million will be invested, with $54 million of that over the 2020/2021 financial year for organisations from community level through to elite ...
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  • Keeping ACC levies steady until 2022
    The Government is maintaining current levy rates for the next 2 years, as part of a set of changes to help ease the financial pressures of COVID-19 providing certainty for businesses and New Zealanders, ACC Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. “New Zealanders and businesses are facing unprecedented financial pressures as a ...
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    7 days ago
  • Extended loan scheme keeps business afloat
    Small businesses are getting greater certainty about access to finance with an extension to the interest-free cashflow loan scheme to the end of the year. The Small Business Cashflow Loan Scheme has already been extended once, to 24 July. Revenue and Small Business Minister Stuart Nash says it will be ...
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  • New investment creates over 2000 jobs to clean up waterways
    A package of 23 projects across the country will clean up waterways and deliver over 2000 jobs Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Environment Minister David Parker announced today. The $162 million dollar package will see 22 water clean-up projects put forward by local councils receiving $62 million and the Kaipara ...
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  • Speech to Labour Party Congress 2020
    Tena koutou katoa  Nga tangata whenua o tenei rohe o Pōneke, tena koutou Nau mai, haere mai ki te hui a tau mo te roopu reipa Ko tatou!  Ko to tatou mana!  Ko to tatou kaupapa kei te kokiri whakamua  Tena koutou, tena koutou, tena tatou katoa   Welcome. I ...
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