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Last poll of the year

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With only a couple of days left in 2010 the Herald has released its latest digipoll showing a slight closing of the gap between National and Labour. But that’s not the interesting part.

What is interesting is the preferred Prime Minister polling. As usual it has Key right out front and Goff languishing in the single figures but it also does lists the don’t know/won’t say section and it’s a whopping 24.6%.

That’s right, nearly a quarter of people polled didn’t know who they wanted as PM or wouldn’t say.

Unfortunately the don’t know/won’t say figure for the main question hasn’t been published which is a real shame because when you’ve got a poorly performing government and a poorly performing opposition that figure becomes very important.

For example we don’t know how many people have abandoned National but don’t feel like they have anywhere to go. If, like in the preferred PM numbers, it’s a quarter of people polled then the “National could govern alone” meme is clearly disingenuous.

It seems to me that no poll can be taken seriously without the DK/WS figures being included. Especially in a political climate where the disenchanted swing voter is so critical to the result.

87 comments on “Last poll of the year ”

  1. tsmithfield 1

    Irish “What is interesting is the preferred Prime Minister polling. As usual it has Key right out front and Goff languishing in the single figures but it also does lists the don’t know/won’t say section and it’s a whopping 24.6%.”

    Hope springs eternal, I guess.

    • IrishBill 1.1

      So you think that having a quarter of people polled undecided on preferred PM is insignificant? What if this figure is reflected in the party vote polling?

      • tsmithfield 1.1.1

        I don’t know. As I understand it, a lot of polls don’t include undecided figures. This might be par for the course if undecideds were included in all polls.

        If the question was “who would you definitely not prefer as PM?” it might be a bit more revealing.

        • Lanthanide 1.1.1.1

          Not really, because you’d probably just get people saying “Winston Peters”.

          That question asks for the worst of all worlds: most people would prefer either Key or Goff to Peters (and that’s why they also don’t vote NZ First), so really the question wouldn’t tell us anything that wasn’t already obvious.

  2. The Herald article got it wrong where it said that all 3 of the latest polls had National over 50%. The latest Roy Morgan had the nats at 48.5 and support for all government parties at over 50. Small mistake but geez you have to wonder at the quality of our opinion formers …

    • Colonial Viper 2.1

      you have to wonder at the quality of our opinion formers …

      Micky, I don’t think that there is much to wonder about at all.

  3. felix 3

    Interesting. I’d say that 24.6% will be made up of a wide range of voters including:

    * The obvious: low/middle income swing voters who voted for that nice Mr Key who promised them all “north of $50 a week” and now realise they were shafted.

    * Lefties who voted for Helen but don’t have confidence in Goff, always wanted the party to move further left and don’t see it happening at the moment.

    * Green voters unhappy with the shift to the right under the current leadership.

    * ACToid liberals who lost faith after Rodney’s lies. Oh and all that dead baby stuff.

    * Economic hard-line righties who think the Nats are too soft but have no confidence in ACT making the threshold.

    * The kbr fundies who bought all the “nanny state/hulun’s a lezzer/iwi kiwi/beat my kids” schtick and are horrified to discover that National haven’t introduced sharia law yet.

    * Reactionaries wondering about Winston’s chances.

    Lots of discontented voters there. Anyone’s game, I reckon.

    • Bored 3.1

      Lovely little deconstruct Felix, cant fault it…now is the winter of our discontent to be made glorious summer by the lopping off of the rulers head in November.

    • higherstandard 3.2

      You forgot the largest percentage.

      * I don’t give a fuck, fuck off and let me get on with my holiday.

    • thomas forrow 3.3

      Shit, have we shifted to the right?
      No one told me

      • felix 3.3.1

        Actually lots of us have been telling you.

        You just don’t fucking listen.

      • Ari 3.3.2

        There’s certainly been no large policy shifts in the Green Party, it’s more a comment on what some lefties think of the Green caucus rather than the policy itself.

  4. george 4

    To use rough as guts numbers, Goff has 8% PPM rating, and Labour is polling at around 33%. It looks pretty clear to me that the 25% difference is likely to be Labour supports that don’t support Goff as their preferred leader. So don’t say who they support as a PPM for the purposes of the poll.

    • IrishBill 4.1

      The party vote for labour is 37% but you could be right. The problem is you can’t compare the numbers for party vote to the ones for PM without knowing how many DK/WS what their party vote would be.

      • george 4.1.1

        Sorry, I had a look over the article and realised the numbers were slightly off. But was using those numbers to broadly illustrate what I was trying to say rather than get an exactly fitting answer.

        There doesn’t appear to be anywhere else where that 24.6% gap is coming from, Nationals support is 52.4%, Johns PPM support is 53.1%, so it doesn’t sounds like it’s coming from the National crowd.

        Whereas Labours support is 37.2% and Phils PPM is 7.7% a gap of 29.5 percentage points. (presumably the bulk of that 24.6%)

        • Colonial Viper 4.1.1.1

          We really could do with access to the raw data. I for one know enough Labour and Green party voters who like John Key enough to consider him their preferred PM, that its not a rare phenomenon.

          Go figure.

          • george 4.1.1.1.1

            I don’t disagree that John may cross many of the political boundaries, but I think it is relatively clear cut that Labour supporters on the whole are not behind Phil Goff as much as National supporters are behind John Key. Though that is from the information that we are given.

        • Ari 4.1.1.2

          The percentage of undecideds is removed from the total, so it’s completely unrelated to the data you have on hand, genius. 😛

  5. just saying 5

    Well for what it’s worth, my swing nat-voting rellies are still firmly national, one of them, alarmingly, even more enarmoured with Key. Labour was considered unelectable by every person I spoke with while I was away and I did tend to bring the subject up.

    Now I’m home where most around me don’t support national.

    • Colonial Viper 5.1

      Yeah this shit worries me a lot. I have been out and about in different places and with different people over the last few days, and when I bring the subject up most people are still very keen on Key and on National. Some very specific spots have good Labour support but otherwise its not a good look.

    • Vicky32 5.2

      How is that possible, just saying? I am sure you wonder, as I do…
      Deb

  6. Jellytussle 6

    Hmm…not sure about the validity of any polls until they can overcome the mobile phone factor. An increasing number of households don’t even have landlines any more!

    • lprent 6.1

      Or like me, don’t answer my unlisted landline unless the caller id is recognized. People can leave messages and usually don’t.

      captcha: executed – umm John Key or cold callers. Much the same really

  7. Marjorie Dawe 7

    But isnt it interesting that you dont actually see any pictures of Phil Goff, or for that matter any opposition party politicians, nor hear any of their true positive or informed comments in the daily papers. However, you do see lots of John Key and the National party ministers everywhere you look. How is anyone to know what the opposition parties do or are thinking if the media continues to invisibalise them. I think if the media played according to a fair playing field we would see polls with results which look a lot different. Examples are Pike River and Christchurch to which many leftist politicians went to lend a hand but we didnt actually see them did we. Thats right!! They were invisible.

  8. Marjorie Dawe 8

    Not only that, but the stories you see about the Nats are mostly all positive. It seems a bit strange how the negative stories are mainly about whatever can be found about Labour, and repeated ad nauseum, but some big negative stories about the Nats are hidden in places like the 7th page of the Herald and printed very briefly, once and with no pictures. Something is amiss here and most of our voters dont see this unfortunately. I dont buy papers any more because of the marked bias being showed. I would like them to give Kiwis the opportunity to make a fully informed decision about their voting choices and therefore the polling would be more honest.

    • jcuknz 8.1

      If you don’t buy newspapers any more how can you tell that they are biased to the right … that makes as much sense as me not buying the local rag because I believe it is biased towards its largely leftish readership :-).

      • Marjorie Dawe 8.1.1

        I dont buy the papers but I do have a computer. You claim that the local papers are leftist rags but during the local body elections in Auckland I saw lots of photos of John Banks and the right wing councillors but almost none of the leftist councillors. Its a bit sad now though isnt it, there arent that many on the right and our mayor is Len Brown. How sad for you.

  9. Alwyn 9

    I don’t think that there is any way at all that National can carry over 50% into the election.
    There has only been ONE election in the last 70 years when a party got over 50% of the vote.
    The was National in 1951, the Waterfront “strike”, or “lockout”, depending on your political leanings, election.
    The Green Party are going to have to lift their game though as they usually only get about two thirds the vote in an election that they get in the polls.

  10. Marjorie Dawe 10

    Auckland got it right in the local body elections and we got the only candidate who could pull the people together. The polls were wrong here and they could be wrong again.

  11. Zaphod Beeblebrox 11

    Ask them when they have to make a decision about the future. At the moment people have a general intention of support of an ideology or image but these things can change when you start to think about the next 3 years that you vote will affect.

    Ask them about what they want for NZ schools, their employment conditions, what sort of things they want their government to be involved in. Preferences change when you have to put your vote into action. No body ever got elected promising not to do anything- just ask John Banks.

    • Colonial Viper 11.1

      Agreed. Some so-called keen National supporters can’t verbalise at all the reasons why they like Key/National. And when they do its often things like “Key is a nice guy, a good businessman, he really seems to care, etc.” In other words they have bought into the branding and the imaging lock stock and barrel.

      Not everyone though. The people who dislike Key and National can really really dislike them.

      • KJT 11.1.1

        A bit of editorial in the local rag was gushing about Key. Then in the same article was talking about the problems with increasing inequality. There seems to be a disconnect between awareness of politicians and awareness of the effects of their policies.

        • Vicky32 11.1.1.1

          That reminds me that the other night, someone on 3 News was talking about the unbelievable prices rises for such things as cheese, milk and veg etc… Yet 3 News don’t seem to connect all this to NACT, of whom they are emotional supporters…
          Deb

          • Treetop 11.1.1.1.1

            Not hard to see why there is so much vitamin D deficiency in NZ as dairy is becoming a luxury food item. Have not looked up the story, but heard a health professional today say that NZ has to test children for vitamin D. Also heard the other day that dairy has gone up internationally and that in a couple of months it will rise at the supermarket in NZ by 10 %.

            Dairy products are essential for growing children or a good alternative is required if a vegan.

            • Colonial Viper 11.1.1.1.1.1

              Dairy products are essential for growing children

              Ah…not really. OK so its what the Fonterra ads say, but how “essential” can it be if the majority of people in human civilisations have had very limited or no access to dairy products whatsoever until the last 500 years. In fact dairy is a recent enough addition to the human diet that a lot of people have some degree of allergy to dairy proteins or sugars.

              And now that our dairy herds are being fed with palm kernel and tapioca, not clean green NZ grass (not that it was anyways…)

              If NZ wants its kids with good vitamin D levels they need to get out and about and play in the sun.

            • Ari 11.1.1.1.1.2

              I’m not sure where this came from, but let’s dispell some veg*an myths.

              Generally the worry for vegans is actually B12, which is largely obtained from milk and eggs for vegetarians. It’s possible to obtain enough B12 by eating food made with rather specific yeasts, cereals or other food fortified with B12, or even taking supplements. (I think I read something about various funguses which also contain B12 which are where the animals get it in the first place, so that might be available too.)

              Vegans can eat tofu, soy, bok choi, broccoli, and other foods for the calcium which improves vitamin D uptake- it’s relatively easy to get calcium as a vegan without even resorting to foods fortified with it. No dairy intake is necessary in a diet that involves a varied choice in vegetables, and vegetarians will easily get plenty of calcium.

              The real problem with veganism is simply that it’s a lot harder to pull off and less adaptable than vegetarianism. Some people will not be able to be vegan due to health risks or allergies to particular sources of nutrients, so consulting a doctor that actually knows about vegan or vegetarian diets about how viable they are for you is never a bad idea.

              Meat and dairy are heavily advocated for by industry groups, but neither is strictly necessary in a diet. New Zealand meat is certainly more ethical and healthy than wheat-fed livestock overseas, but that doesn’t mean it’s ethical or environmentally-friendly enough for people to eat. Even just eating vegetarian meals a few times a week will greatly cut down your carbon footprint, probably as much as switching to a more efficient mode of transport.

  12. Gina 12

    I still don’t believe the polls. The reason Labour lost the last election was low turn out. We had the lowest turnout for decades. National allways win low turn out elections.

    So why didn’t left voters come out? It could have been they felt it was futile because the polls made it look like a left win wasn’t possible. It could have been a thousand other things but its possible the high polling for the Nats made left voters just not bother.

    So the result mirrored the polls but was really a reflection of low voter turnout which means left voters didn’t go to the polls.

    So if high turnout almost always means victory for the left that tells us that the majority of Kiwi’s support the left or that most Kiwi’s do not support the right. If high turnout favoured the Right believe me we would have had compulsory voting years ago.

    It’d be interesting to look at the history of Australian elections who have compulsory voting.

      • felix 12.1.1

        English changes everything.

        • just saying 12.1.1.1

          I’ve noticed that fascinating ‘Mutt and Jeff” thing going on too. Those ordinarily left-leaning Key fans invariably blame all the negative news on Bill English. They love that nice Mr Key and loathe the nasty Mr English, who Key for some unfathomable reason is unable to control. (That doesn’t make him a weak leader you understand, just too nice for his own good sometimes…) Previously as reasonably sane and sensible as most ordinary people – still lucid and reasonable in most things, and worst of all to me, often the very people that the NACT agenda is already hurting with a lot worse to come. Like turkeys falling in love with Christmas.

          It’s quite mad, I’m not entirely convinced there aren’t psychotropic substances in Auckland’s water and subliminal messages on the TV. Come to think of it, with the relentless groupthink of the Key/Nact fanboi media, subliminal suggestion would be kinda over-egging the custard….

          • Ari 12.1.1.1.1

            Nope, this is just an example of how you can’t override feelings by logic, which is a very distressing thing if you’re talking to someone who trusts their feelings more than their logic on something where feelings aren’t really relevant like politics.

    • Zaphod Beeblebrox 12.2

      Remember the bottom 20% on the income scale no longer participate in the democratic process anymore. Thats why left leaning parties struggle when they start talking about social inclusion and fairness arguments. Guess which groups of people like it when the Nats mouth off about welfare bludgers, the DHB and unfair taxation.

      Of course these are only really catchy slogans because the reality of action is rather ugly. Nobody really wants to be assailed by beggars when they step outside their front door and nobody really likes the idea of children sitting next to their kids at school not having had breakfast or not being properly clothed, even if that is what they profess they will vote for.

      It makes a good story for the Nats though.

      In the end you individuals really need to ask- do they want to keep withdrawing money from the public good and why is there so little available for the public good when we are so rich. If you look at the Auckland Council elections you might see what people really think

  13. dave 13

    That’s right, nearly a quarter of people polled didn’t know who they wanted as PM or wouldn’t say.
    Given that Nat Deputy leader got 0%, and the second most popular Labour PM is in the UN, that indicates that many are happy with Key, but others are not happy with Goff or anyone else in Labour. Perhaps more Labour voters are happy with Key as PM than Goff, and alsowont vote for Labour’s deputy leader as they dont know her name.

    • Ari 13.1

      People don’t just vote on the basis of their approved leader. Witness that Labour was polling more than twice as high as Goff for quite some time.

  14. mcflock 14

    Somewhat pertinent news article on US cellphone-only homes here.

    It is US data, but they have found for the first time that more than 50% of 25-29 year olds live in cellphone-only homes, and that the 18-24yo and 30-34yo have cellphone only rates of 40%+.

    Even assuming that the NZ trend here isn’t quite so extreme, it does mean that phone-only polls are skewed towards rich, older folk.

    • Vicky32 14.1

      My son lives with his flatties in Wellington, they’re about 23 (my son) to 30 (his oldest flatmate) and they have no landline – mobiles only… I think it’s getting more common here.
      Deb

    • jcuknz 14.2

      And though I have a land line, so it is economical to go on the web, I politely brush off all callers asking for money and rarely respond to surveyors. This raises an interesting question … how do all these cellphone people participate on the web? at e-cafes whathaveyou?or do they not? Or is it twitter and facebook?

      • lprent 14.2.1

        The contract on my cell has a effective 3gb data cap (250mb nominal, but with a continuing 3gb promotion). If I was in an area with good cell coverage (ie not the wilds of chch suburbs) this last week then I’d have used about a third of that.

        There are quite a few people either tethering their iPhone or using something like a vodem to hook wirelessly to the 3G net for data.

      • Ari 14.2.2

        Some of us live in areas you don’t need a landline to get an internet connection.

  15. Gina 15

    Burt

    Sorry for the gross stupidity. I based that on info I heard a long time ago which was obvioulsy a load of coblers. I was trying to locate that info so thanks.

    I still think those polls before the last election kept a lot of left voters at home. The greens were polling a lot higher than the actual turnout.

    There was another clue before the last election which made me think that the undecideds favoured the left.

    In a poll on the tax cuts the far left i.e. Green voters were most opposed to further tax cuts, National Act voters were most in favour of further tax cuts, labour voters were in the middle and the undecideds were equal to the Greens in their opposition to tax cuts. That sort of indicates that the then 10+ undecided voters were far left wing voters but no one ever bothered to find out who the undecideds were or what they thought. In the US undecideds and independants favour the left by a hefty margin. So I still have big concerns about the validity of the polls. Add to that 23% cellphone only households who in many cases might be poor thus favouring the left. Again in the US those unpolled cellphone only households favour the left by a good margin.

  16. Shazzadude 16

    I believe that the significant “don’t know” polling for preferred PM probably comes from people who arre confused after hearing the options “Helen Clark” and “Phil Goff”, with Helen Clark having been a popular past leader, yet obviously not being there anymore.

  17. Jenny 17

    Trevor Mallard for P.M.

    • just saying 17.1

      Please no!

      • Bored 17.1.1

        Fekk no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mind you compared to Goff, Trev is the bomb. With no more fuse I admit, a dud. Who will save me from Labour party leaders? Woe is me!

    • felix 17.2

      Bring it!

    • higherstandard 17.3

      Only if he promises to punch everyone and fist Lockwood during question time.

    • BLiP 17.4

      Can’t see any reason why not.

    • luva 17.5

      National are (to use a Keyism) relaxed about fighting an election with Goff as the lefts figurehead. They are essentially going to sleep walk to victory. Internal complacency will still probably get them home if the uninspiring Goff remains the alternative.

      Trev is the man that the Nats are whispering about and are quite worried about. Labour and the Left in general need a silver bullet and need it soon. Trev could be that bolt of lightning and energy that would scare the shit out of Key and inspire centrist voters.

      • Colonial Viper 17.5.1

        Nope, Gillard showed to one and all that replacing a leader just before an election is just as likely to backfire and backfire badly. The Key Government can easily characterise such a move as a desperate stunt.

        Frak, National and their Crosby Textor mates have already discussed scenarios on this so why walk into their ambush.

        • Jenny 17.5.1.1

          The thing about Mallard is, that he actually wants the job.

          If after the election the majority of voters don’t go to National. And Phil Goff, in defiance of the wishes of the electorate, makes no serious effort to form a Labour led coalition government, and attempts to hand the country over to the Nats. for another term.

          Then he should be dumped immediately, with the full support of the Labour Party, and Mallard be given his shot.

          After all how hard could it be?

      • Zorr 17.5.2

        I honestly think that the next election is about Labour vs John Key. Not Phil Goff or Trevor Mallard vs him because that is not a fight they can hope to win. However, National are relying on the personality power of the Jonkey to get people to the polls in their favor because if they were to try and fight the election on their “achievements” they would solidly lose.

        • mcflock 17.5.2.1

          and the longer the wait for the election, the more chance key has of slipping – and he has a big chance of being just a bit too “relaxed” about the wrong issue.

          Blind trusts won’t do it, rorts are what people expect, but some issue where brownlee does something like stripmine mount cook (although even key would spot that one) and key takes a while to figure out that it’s a bad idea.

      • Salsy 17.5.3

        Trev?? You must be kidding!

    • lprent 17.6

      No please. As much as I like Trevor, he does have strong tendency towards impulsive acts that I would find a bit terrifying in a PM. It is bad enough having John Key doing stupid impulsive actions (cycleway anyone?) without having the same issues in Labour. If we only had a choice between two impulsive politicians, then it is time to start another party

      • Lanthanide 17.6.1

        I don’t think the cycleway was impulsive. It was cynical and probably pie-in-the-sky at the same time. Some sort of ‘think outside the box’ idea that as Minister For Tourism he can trot out, while simultaneously not costing much for the budget but somehow providing 4000 jobs.

        I remember interviews on TV at the time, Key had heard about the cycleway idea at least 2 weeks before the ‘talk-fest’ where he announced it. It’s possible the whole thing was organised simply as a platform to announce it, actually – that’s why nothing else actually came out of it.

        • Bored 17.6.1.1

          Iprent and Lan, I dont care if the cycleway was impulsive or not, I just want it delivered…….the clarion call fom the left should be, “Where is our f*****g cycleway?”

      • Salsy 17.6.2

        I would love to see John Key up against Cunliffe in a debate about the economy. That would sure shatter some illusions.

        • Lanthanide 17.6.2.1

          Yes, but it’ll be English vs Cunliffe. The facts tilt in Cunliffe’s favour, but English has never let the facts weigh him down.

    • jcuknz 17.7

      Pete Hodgeson for PM?
      [The anti spam word is ‘appropriate’ 🙂 ]

  18. Gina 18

    “Blind trusts won’t do it, rorts are what people expect”

    If our media told NewZealand the real truth about Michael Ashcroft that might have an effect on Key. Most kiwis have no clue that he owns the Belize bank or of other scandals around his financial arrangements.
    Labour really need to get this sort of information out somehow.

    • burt 18.1

      The media told us the real story about Winston but that hasn’t stopped Labour from wanting to get back into bed for another chance to rort the tax payers and not pay it back at the same time as using a secret trust and not declaring donations.

      • Bored 18.1.1

        The same Winston who the media deserted so quickly when he exposed their paymasters with the sordid rorts that were the Wine Box? The very same sordid corporate types who bankroll the right?

  19. Deadly_NZ 19

    Unfortunatly there is No one in the Labour party that could become popular enough to beat mr Smiley Wavey. We just need them to shoot them selves in the foot a few more times. Parliament should be interesting for a while in the beginning, however the deafening silence from said Labour party is also worrying. Surely they have speech writers that should be drooling over the ‘little’ cockups that have emerged from the Nats latley, but even Pete Hodgson has not been heard of. SO I sincerely hope that they have been taking notice and been buring phone and internet use with the said writers and when Mr Smiley Wavey comes back from entertaining all the ‘nice’ Americans and selling us further down the river, he will face a shit storm…

    Oh well Dreams are free..

    • burt 19.1

      The problem is Deadly_NZ that the good old days of relying on short public memory have gone. This blog alone provides a treasure trove of peoples previous positions and apologist behavious.

      The MPs simply can’t pretend they never said [xyz] or took [abc] position anymore.

      • Colonial Viper 19.1.1

        Hey with pollies like John Key who don’t give a damn what they said on camera 5 minutes ago, what does it matter.

        And the public continue to have painfully short memories.

        • burt 19.1.1.1

          Colonial Viper

          It might surprise you to know that Labour had 9 years of appalling behavious all documented in blogs and online MSM sites. They are the first govt in NZ to operate in that environment and it seems that they haven’t yet worked out the significance of that and neither have their apologist supporters.

          • Colonial Viper 19.1.1.1.1

            “National is not going to be raising GST” (John Key, 2008)

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxpwt5s4rLY

          • Bored 19.1.1.1.2

            Burt, you implore us to take off the tinted specs….you might notice from my criticism of Labour that I see them warts and all. When perchance are you going to take off your tinted specs and see the NACT bunch as more corrupt and venal at a far faster rate than Labour ever managed? When are you going to be really honest and see it as it really is? As you say, its on the record.

            • Deadly_NZ 19.1.1.1.2.1

              well I did finish with dreams are free. But at least after labour was rolled there was enough money in all his funds that the Nacts have already frittered way on tax cuts and pretty baubles for their rich mates and the most frustrating thing is that Labour can see the same polls as us and it’s like they just dont give a shit! and thats scarey if you wanna get rid of the “smiling John and his cronies”

    • Bored 19.2

      Deadly, Labour are a hollow vessel steered by one compassless captain, and the sheeple of NZ have no shepherd to herd them other than the one they are stuck with, keyed into we might say. Truly sad as the flood waters of corruption rise.

      • Colonial Viper 19.2.1

        Gimme a break, you know how politics is supposed to work. Get ordinary people into politics at a grass roots level, either as independent activitsts, members or non-member supporters of either parties or interest groups. Make the voices of ordinary party members more numerous and louder and louder. Make the party machinery listen. Strengthen the party to the extent that the party views are clearly and plainly reflected in the deliberations of the parliamentarians. If the parliamentarians aren’t doing what we think they should be, don’t tell them at the polls on election day. Give them hell through their entire term. Force the fraking politicians to do the right thing. Now that’s democracy.

        Now if the people don’t give a frak, and they end up thinking that politics is something that happens to other people on the 6pm news, then yeah they risk ending up as sheeple, and getting led to the slaughter while smiling and waving is par for the course.

        • Zaphod Beeblebrox 19.2.1.1

          if only the first scenario were true. In NZ politics is not about individual party members holding MP’s to account- its about corporate and special interest groups asking for action in return for financial and political support. NFF, BRT, Trucking lobby, mining lobby , Northern employers and the Auckland Business establishment on one side, CTU and welfare groups on the other. Of course these groups are only interesting in advancing their own interests- they don’t care about the public interest.

          • Marjorie Dawe 19.2.1.1.1

            ZB, I don’t know why you think that the CTU and welfare groups don’t care about the public interest when every day they are dealing with real struggling people and fighting for those who are unable to fight for themselves. The difference is that the interests of the business groups and rich is about making money and keeping as much of it ( re tax cuts) without actually noticing that some of our kids don’t eat every day and are dressed in rags. The interests of the Ctu and welfare groups are about caring and sharing the good fortune with those less fortunate. What a sad society we would be without caring like that. The other sad thing is that there are poor people who just concentrate on getting through each day and who dont have the time, energy or faith in our so called democratic system to vote. They are also not told the truth by our media and it is difficult then to make the connection between a smiling, waving man and their increasingly desperate situations they find themselves in.

        • Bored 19.2.1.2

          Nice riposte CV, gotta go to Oz next to see if they have sheeple too. Back in a fortnight to again demand my cycleway.

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    The Milford Opportunities Project is entering its next phase following a productive visit to Piopiotahi to hear directly from tourism operators, iwi and the unit undertaking feasibility planning, says Conservation Minister Poto Williams. In June 2021 Cabinet approved $15 million to fund the next stage of the Milford Opportunities Project, ...
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    38 mins ago
  • Digital tools to make family violence support widely available
    Associate Minister for Social Development and Employment Priyanca Radhakrishnan has officially launched a suite of new digital tools to support people affected by family violence. “Family violence is a scourge on our society and violent behaviour of any kind is absolutely unacceptable. We are taking the important steps to modernise ...
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    22 hours ago
  • Plan for big boost in GP training numbers
    More support is being given to New Zealand medical graduates training to be GPs, as the Government continues its push to get more doctors into communities. “Growing the number of GPs is vital so we can fill today’s gaps and make sure we’ve got the doctors we need in the ...
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    1 day ago
  • 142,000 Kiwis helped by Healthy Homes Initiative
    Hospitalisations reduced by 19.8 percent School attendance increased by 3 percent Employment increased by 4 percent 100,000 interventions delivered, including insulation, heaters, curtains and repairs Nationwide rollout expected to be complete by the end of the year More than 31,000 children, pregnant people and 111,000 of their family members are ...
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    2 days ago
  • Minister of Defence departs for Middle East
    Minister of Defence Peeni Henare has today departed for the Middle East where he will visit New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel deployed within the region, including in Operation Gallant Phoenix in Jordan and the Multinational Force and Observers mission on the Sinai Peninsula, Egypt. The Minister will also undertake ...
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    2 days ago
  • Government funds work to clean up six contaminated sites
    The Government has announced funding to clean up six contaminated sites to reduce the risk to public health and protect the environment.    “These six projects will help protect the public from health risks associated with hazardous materials, so New Zealanders can live in a cleaner, safer environment.” Environment Minister David Parker ...
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    3 days ago
  • Government partners with industry to reduce agricultural emissions
    New Zealand’s effort to reduce agricultural emissions has taken a step forward with the signing of a memorandum of understanding by Government with agribusiness leaders, in a joint venture as part of the new Centre for Climate Action on Agricultural Emissions, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced. The Ministry for Primary Industries signed ...
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    3 days ago
  • Vosa Vakaviti sustains generations of Fijians
    The enduring strength and sustainability of Vosa Vakaviti is being celebrated by the Fijian community in Aotearoa New Zealand during Macawa ni Vosa Vakaviti – Fijian Language Week, which gets underway today. “This year’s theme, ‘Me vakabulabulataki, vakamareqeti, ka vakaqaqacotaki na vosa Vakaviti’, which translates as ‘Nurture, Preserve and Sustain ...
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    3 days ago
  • New Zealand condemns Russia’s annexation attempts
    New Zealand condemns unequivocally Russia’s attempts to illegally annex Russia-occupied regions of Ukraine, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says. “We do not recognise these illegal attempts to change Ukraine’s borders or territorial sovereignty,” Jacinda Ardern said. “Russia’s sham referenda in Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia are illegitimate, and have no legal ...
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    4 days ago
  • Government provides confidence to those seeking an adventure
    With our borders opened and tourists returning, those seeking out adventurous activities can do so more safely due to the steps we’ve taken to improve the health and safety regulatory regime for adventure activities, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Michael Wood has announced.  “We are seeing international visitor numbers begin ...
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    4 days ago
  • New hospital opens for Wellington children
    A new children’s hospital that officially opened in Wellington this morning offers the region’s children top-quality health care in one place, Health Minister Andrew Little says. Te Wao Nui has been built with a $53 million contribution from benefactors Mark Dunajtschik and Dorothy Spotswood, with the Government contributing another $53 ...
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    5 days ago
  • More single-use plastics banned from tomorrow
    Single-use plastic cotton buds, drink stirrers and most plastic meat trays are among single use plastics banned from sale or manufacture from tomorrow. “This is the first group of the most problematic plastic products to be banned in a progressive phase out over the next three years,” Environment Minister David ...
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    5 days ago
  • Speech to NZDF Command and Staff College
    It’s a pleasure to join you today – and I extend a particular welcome to Marty Donoghue (a member of the Public Advisory Committee on Disarmament and Arms Control) and Athena Li-Watts (interning with me this week) who are also joining me today. On the face of it, some ...
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    5 days ago
  • Milestone of half a million mental health sessions delivered
    The Government’s flagship primary mental health and addiction programme Access and Choice has hit the milestone of delivering more than 500,000 sessions to New Zealanders needing mental health support. Health Minister Andrew Little made the announcement at ADL – Thrive Pae Ora in Cromwell which provides mental wellbeing support services ...
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    5 days ago
  • Government continues to future-proof arts, culture and heritage sector
    The Government has announced further support for the recovery and resilience of the arts, culture and heritage sector as part of its COVID Recovery Programme’s Innovation Fund. “We’re continuing to secure the recovery of our arts, culture and heritage in Aotearoa New Zealand by supporting transformational initiatives across the motu,” ...
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    5 days ago
  • Government steps up kauri protection
    The Government is delivering on an election commitment to protect kauri in our northern forests through the new National Pest Management Plan (NPMP) for the forest giant and the allocation of $32 million of funding to back the coordinated effort, Biosecurity Minister Damien O'Connor and Associate Environment Minister (Biodiversity) ...
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    5 days ago
  • Russia’s Ukraine referenda a sham
    Aotearoa New Zealand does not recognise the results of the sham referenda in Russia-occupied regions of Ukraine, Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta says.  “These so-called referenda were not free or fair, and they very clearly were not held in accordance with democratic principles,” Nanaia Mahuta said. “Instead, they were hastily organised ...
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    5 days ago
  • Govt invests in New Zealand’s wine future
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has officially opened New Zealand Wine Centre–Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa in Blenheim today, saying that investments like these give us cause for optimism for the future. Funding of $3.79 million for the Marlborough Research Centre to build a national wine centre was announced in 2020, ...
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    6 days ago
  • Appointment of Judges of the Court Martial Appeal Court
    Attorney-General David Parker today announced the appointment of Colonel Craig Ruane, Commander Robyn Loversidge, and James Wilding KC as Judges of the Court Martial Appeal Court. The Court Martial Appeal Court is a senior court of record established under the Court Martial Appeals Act 1953. It is summoned by the ...
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    6 days ago
  • Government strengthens measures to combat migrant worker exploitation
    Offence and penalty regime significantly strengthened New infringement offences for non-compliance Public register of individuals and businesses that are found guilty of migrant exploitation New community-led pilot to educate migrants workers and employers of employment rights Implemented reporting tools successfully brings exploitation out of the shadows Take-up of protective visa ...
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    6 days ago
  • Livestock exports by sea to cease
    The passing of a Bill today to end the export of livestock by sea will protect New Zealand’s reputation for world-leading animal welfare standards, Minister of Agriculture Damien O’Connor said. “The Animal Welfare Amendment Bill future-proofs our economic security amid increasing consumer scrutiny across the board on production practices," Damien ...
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    7 days ago
  • Extra measures to increase census turnout in 2023
    3500 census workers on the ground, twice as many as last census More forms to be delivered – 44% compared to 3% in 2018 Prioritisation of Māori and other groups and regions with lower response rates in 2018 Major work to ensure the delivery of a successful census in 2023 ...
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    7 days ago
  • Shining the light on screen workers
    Improved working conditions for workers in the screen industry is now a reality with the Screen Industry Workers Bill passing its third reading today, announced Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Michael Wood. “It’s fantastic to see the Screen Industry Workers Bill progress through Parliament. The new Act will strengthen protections ...
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    7 days ago
  • Mental health resources for young people and schools launched
    Associate Minister of Education (School Operations) Jan Tinetti and Associate Minister of Education (Māori Education) Kelvin Davis have today launched two new resources to support wellbeing, and the teaching and learning of mental health education in schools and kura. “Students who are happy and healthy learn better. These resources ...
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    7 days ago
  • Progress continues on future-proofing Auckland’s transport infrastructure
    Transport Minister Michael Wood has welcomed the latest progress on Auckland’s two most transformational transport projects in a generation – Auckland Light Rail and the Additional Waitematā Harbour Connections. Auckland Light Rail and Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency have named preferred bidders to move each project to their next phase, ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government supports local innovation in homelessness prevention
    Ten successful applicants in round two of the Local Innovation and Partnership Fund (LIPF) Close to $6 million allocated as part of the Homelessness Action Plan (HAP) Māori, Pasefika and rangatahi a strong focus Round three opening later this year with up to $6.8 million available. Government is stepping up ...
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    1 week ago
  • More medicines for New Zealanders, thanks to Govt’s Budget boost
    Health Minister Andrew Little is welcoming news that two more important medicines are set to be funded, thanks to the Government’s big boost to the country’s medicines budget. “Since coming into Government in 2017, the Labour Government has increased Pharmac’s funding by 43 per cent, including a $71 million boost ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government delivers ACC change to support 28,000 parents
    The Maternal Birth Injury and Other Matters Bill passes Third Reading – the first amendment to ACC legislation of its kind From 1 October 2022, new ACC cover to benefit approximately 28,000 birthing parents Additional maternal birth injuries added alongside new review provision to ensure cover remains comprehensive Greater clarity ...
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    1 week ago
  • Further cuts for East Coast tarakihi limits to rebuild numbers faster
    Commercial catch limits for East Coast tarakihi will be reduced further to help the stock rebuild faster. “Tarakihi is a popular fish, and this has led to declining levels over time. Many adjustments have been made and the stock is recovering. I have decided on further commercial catch reductions of ...
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    1 week ago
  • New Ambassador to Colombia announced
    Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta today announced the appointment of diplomat Nicci Stilwell as the next Ambassador to Colombia. “Aotearoa New Zealand’s relationship with Colombia is fast growing with strong links across education, climate change and indigenous co-operation,” Nanaia Mahuta said.  “Trade is a key part of our relationship with Colombia, ...
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    1 week ago
  • 3000 more RSE workers to ease workforce pressures
    The Government continues to respond to global workforce shortages by announcing the largest increase in over a decade to the Recognised Seasonal Employer Scheme (RSE), providing 3000 additional places, Immigration Minister Michael Wood and Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor have announced. The new RSE cap will allow access to 19,000 workers ...
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    1 week ago
  • Sanctions on more of the Russian political elite
    Further sanctions are being imposed on members of President Putin’s inner circle and other representatives of the Russian political elite, as part of the Governments ongoing response to the war in Ukraine, says Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta. “Ukraine has been clear that the most important action we can take to ...
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    1 week ago
  • New Principal Youth Court Judge appointed
    Judge Ida Malosi, District Court Judge of Wellington, has been appointed as the new Principal Youth Court Judge, Attorney-General David Parker announced today. Born and raised in Southland, Judge Malosi graduated from Victoria University of Wellington and spent her legal career in South Auckland.  She was a founding partner of ...
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    1 week ago
  • Visitor arrivals highest since pandemic began
    Overseas visitor arrivals exceeded 100,000 in July, for the first time since the borders closed in March 2020 Strong ski season lifts arrivals to Queenstown to at least 90% of the same period in 2019 Australia holiday recovery has continued to trend upwards New Zealand’s tourism recovery is on its ...
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    1 week ago
  • Language provides hope for Tuvalu
    Climate change continues to present a major risk for the island nation of Tuvalu, which means sustaining te gana Tuvalu, both on home soil and in New Zealand Aotearoa, has never been more important, Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio said. The Tuvalu Auckland Community Trust and wider Tuvalu ...
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    1 week ago
  • Minister Sio to attend Asian Development Bank meeting in Manila
    Associate Foreign Affairs Minister Aupito William Sio travels to the Philippines this weekend to represent Aotearoa New Zealand at the 55th Annual Meeting of the Asian Development Bank (ADB) Board of Governors in Manila. “The ADB Annual Meeting provides an opportunity to engage with other ADB member countries, including those ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • United Nations General Assembly National Statement
    E ngā Mana, e ngā Reo, Rau Rangatira mā kua huihui mai nei i tēnei Whare Nui o te Ao Ngā mihi maioha ki a koutou katoa, mai i tōku Whenua o Aotearoa Tuia ki runga, Tuia ki raro, ka Rongo to pō ka rongo te ao Nō reira, tēnā ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • New strategy unifies all-of-Government approach to help Pacific languages thrive
    A united approach across all-of-Government underpins the new Pacific Language Strategy, announced by the Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio at Parliament today. “The cornerstone of our Pacific cultures, identities and place in Aotearoa, New Zealand are our Pacific languages. They are at the heart of our wellbeing,” Aupito ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Upgrades for sporting facilities ahead of FIFA Women’s World Cup
    Communities across the country will benefit from newly upgraded sporting facilities as a result of New Zealand co-hosting the FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023. The Government is investing around $19 million to support upgrades at 30 of the 32 potential sporting facilities earmarked for the tournament, including pitch, lighting and ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Partnership supports climate action in Latin America and Caribbean
    Aotearoa New Zealand is extending the reach of its support for climate action to a new agriculture initiative with partners in Latin America and the Caribbean. Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced a NZ$10 million contribution to build resilience, enhance food security and address the ...
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    2 weeks ago