Let’s send Renée Rose Annan to Paris to counter Tim Groser

Written By: - Date published: 9:33 am, October 8th, 2015 - 25 comments
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Renee Rose Annan

The Paris Climate Change Conference is an important gathering of human beings in the face of the biggest crisis humanity has ever faced.

Some think it is too late and civilisation is stuffed, others think that without immediate corrective action civilisation is doomed, a third group think that there is nothing to worry about because of sunspots and hockey sticks and a fourth group do not care as long as they can drive their Ferrari to work each day.

Greenpeace350 Aotearoa and the Coal Action Network want the Government to not send Tim Groser to Paris to represent Aotearoa New Zealand.  The chances of them succeeding are unfortunately slim.  To balance things we need to make sure that we have alternative representation there.

Young, female, future looking; someone who believes in climate change and understands the need for urgent and just action, someone who sees the opportunites of reducing our emissions. In other words the complete opposite to Groser.

A young Auckland Green, Renée Rose Annan, wants to travel to Paris for the convention. But she has a problem. She does not have government sponsored travel and an unlimited minibar tab to pay for the experience. She is fundraising so that she can make the trip.

I met her when she was very competently handling the social media for the Paturoa Kauri and I am sure that she will make a difference.

If you want to contribute to Renée’s travel and accommodation costs then you can do so through this givealittle page.

25 comments on “Let’s send Renée Rose Annan to Paris to counter Tim Groser”

  1. mickysavage 2

    There have already been a couple of very generous donations thank you very much.

    This could be a good experiment in terms of developing reliance on alternative reports of what is happening. The MSM is showing how it is increasingly unable to report on these sorts of issues and activist reporting is going to be very important.

  2. johnm 3

    Definitely, this attractive young lady should go to Paris! 🙂 I hope wealthier readers of the standard can help out.

    • red-blooded 3.1

      johnm, I hope you’re not implying that one reason she should go is that she’s “attractive”?

      Maybe you were meaning to comment on her character (I hope so), but that’s not how it came across. There are plenty of good reasons to support Renée Rose Annan in getting to Paris, but I don’t see how being attractive is relevant. Women have been assessed on the basis of their looks for long enough.

      • David 3.1.1

        If ‘young’ ‘future looking’ and ‘female’ are noteworthy characteristics, why not ‘attractive’? I hope it’s not implying the reason she should go is that she is female, or young?

  3. esoteric pineapples 4

    Giving a donation to anything that throws a spanner in the works for this government, helps good causes etc, is one of life’s small pleasures

  4. Bill 5

    Let’s send…let’s not. Let’s get the ball rolling on not carrying on the way we are. Let’s suggest to Greenpeace, 350.org and all the rest of them that they begin garnering support to lock down air-ports and stop anyone flying anywhere instead of them joining in with and endorsing the international ‘fly by’ conference circuit.

    All of these conferences could and should be conducted with the use of modern communications technologies for those from far away…

    • tinfoilhat 5.1

      Can’t disagree with you on that Bill.

    • left for deadshark 5.2

      Afraid I’m with Bill on this one also. 👿

      • mickysavage 5.2.1

        The carbon cost of flying someone to Paris is 7.8 tonnes which will cost £117.00 to offset. Lets increase the fundraising and make sure the surplus is put into growing forests.

        • Bill 5.2.1.1

          There is no ‘off-set’ when we’re dealing with cumulative emissions. It’s not difficult to envisage situations where off -setting actually increases emissions.

          http://www.nature.com/news/the-inconvenient-truth-of-carbon-offsets-1.10373

          And the one off flight is less of an issue than the profligate carbon use that the lifestyle underpinned by easy travel encourages…the crucial conference/need to catch up with dying relative/ holiday/weekend shopping trip in Sydney/ business expo…etc, etc, etc

        • weka 5.2.1.2

          “The carbon cost of flying someone to Paris is 7.8 tonnes which will cost £117.00 to offset. Lets increase the fundraising and make sure the surplus is put into growing forests”

          Polluter pays doesn’t work with AGW because we are so far in debt that we need the tree planting etc to make up for the damage already done not extra damage that we should be avoiding at all costs.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 5.3

      In light of recent entirely predictable revelations from Exxon, the appropriate response is to send Interpol to round up the lobbyists.

  5. ICD 6

    Great idea. Let’s fly halfway around the world to combat…? Oops. Hypocrite much?

    • mickysavage 6.1

      Or sit at home and let the corporates do it all? These conferences are incredibly important. Having people with progressive ideas present is vitally important.

      • Bill 6.1.1

        All the hard headed scientists and all the well meaning NGOs and their accompanying carbon footprint have made not one iota of difference to any climate conference thus far.

        Maybe you’re missing the central issue – that combating climate change is utterly inimical to modern modes of production and distribution?

        No NGO or scientist is going to be allowed to table (not in any serious fashion) any heretical need for fundamental change.

        Unfortunately, unlike most scientists in the CC field, many young activists are merely looking for ‘brownie points’ on their CV (for future use) and retain a certain naivety of youth that would have them believe the ‘right thing’ will be done by the powerful by and by…and that when that’s done, things can carry on much as now.

        The conferences aren’t important beyond their capacity to generate propaganda for the frog in the steadily warming water.

        • weka 6.1.1.1

          “Unfortunately, unlike most scientists in the CC field, many young activists are merely looking for ‘brownie points’ on their CV (for future use) and retain a certain naivety of youth that would have them believe the ‘right thing’ will be done by the powerful by and by…and that when that’s done, things can carry on much as now.”

          Hmm, that’s pretty cynical re the CV and we don’t know if Annan believes in the powerful or BAU.

          I agree re the whole flying thing, but I don’t think that the youth delegation, or the scientists/NGOs etc are a complete waste of time either. If people like Annan didn’t go, it’d be left up to people like Groser.

          • Bill 6.1.1.1.1

            No. I have no idea what Rennee’s head space is. That’s why I used the term ‘many’.

            The Groser’s are running on a different agenda (completely different priorities) to both the scientists and whatever delegations may turn up. They will not (have not) allowed their agenda to be impinged upon.

            Leave it to the Groser’s. But politically lock them down; lock them out – so that they and their deliberations are of no more real world impact than this conversation we are having here.

            -sigh- the utterly necessary revolution ‘most’ (okay – I actually think ‘all’ – and by definition in this instance) social democrats recoil from 😉

            • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1.1.1

              And regardless, there is going to be revolutionary change of one sort or another this century. Even if as a civilisation we do not pro-actively set the menu, sooner or later nature will sit us down to a feast of consequences.

            • weka 6.1.1.1.1.2

              “No. I have no idea what Rennee’s head space is. That’s why I used the term ‘many’.”

              Sure, but the implication was that her going migh be a waste of time and/or tied into personal politcal failings on her part. I am quite curious now where her politics are at.

              “They will not (have not) allowed their agenda to be impinged upon.”

              If that were true they wouldn’t be having to go to a conference at all, there would be no conversations about AGW.

              I’m up for the revolution. I don’t see how Annan choosing to not fly will work towards that. Obviously it’s a prerequisite that people stop flying, but stopping flying alone won’t have much affect on locking out the Grosers of the world ie I think the critique was wrongly applied. Yes, if she didn’t go and there was a movement to lock out the Grosers, then it would make sense. But given there isn’t I think it’s more about whether her going will make enough of a difference to justify the flying (I tend to think not, but for other reasons). The question then becomes, how do we raise consciousness in these young ‘uns ;-), or more importantly, the oldies with the money, power, clout?

              No idea if she’s a social democrat 😉

              • Bill

                Yes, if she didn’t go and there was a movement to lock out the Grosers, then it would make sense.

                That’s my point….It needs to be brought into existence – a new norm. It should be utterly unthinkable that we carry on living the way we do. And anyone who advocates it ought to be marginalised, ignored and ridiculed instead of being elevated to positions of leadership…

                edit: sorry, some time has elapsed, but…of course they’d be having conferences! Leaders have to make a show of being in control and, well…there’s all those frogs to be placated that might get hopping mad if it ever got out that things weren’t ‘cool’.

                • weka

                  yeah, but you were saying that there’s been no progress and that the Grosers are carrying on unheeded. I think that’s untrue. If people like Annan weren’t working the Grosers would be getting away with much more.

                  “That’s my point….It needs to be brought into existence – a new norm. It should be utterly unthinkable that we carry on living the way we do. And anyone who advocates it ought to be marginalised, ignored and ridiculed instead of being elevated to positions of leadership…”

                  Fair enough. One of us should write a post 🙂

                  I had a look at the youth delegation website and am somewhat more inclined to your cynicism. They are promoting zero by 2050 but it’s pretty light on detail.

                  • Bill

                    I can’t see any progress.

                    In 1992 at the Rio Summit, governments made some signals to bring emissions down. Emissions rose. in (how many?) subsequent ‘talk fests’ governments made commitments of various degrees – and emissions continued to rise. Today, emissions are rising.

                    Sure, we’ve got windmills and what not where before we only had hydro. It’s kinda like we’re putting filters on cigarettes while increasing tobacco use – it ain’t going anywhere other than bad.

                    Oh – I forgot, like the cure for cancer is just around the corner, meaning we could smoke to our heart’s content, we’ve got carbon capture and storage technology….just around the corner.

                    • weka

                      Off the top of my head the biggest difference between 1992 and 2015 is that most people now know that climate change is real, serious and in NZ at least, want something done about it. That’s not no progress. The kind of progress you are talking about can’t happen without that.

                      It’s not like the Grosers of the world made that change happen. Others did, including people like Annan (or her counterpart at the time).

                      Other differences are how science is funded, MSM coverage etc.

                    • is that most people now know that climate change is real

                      Yeah right, ‘we’ are still buying new cars like there is no tomorrow (100 into Masterton last week) And Napier seams to be moving a few as well?

                      ‘most people’ will not vote for or accept any real action on ACC, not that there is anything to do, but just for arguments sake 😉

                      ‘most people’ are saying steady as she goes, don’t rock the boat, put a car/holiday/whatever on the mortgage, just like 2007-8 again.

                      ‘most people’ might think we can do something about CC, that will not affect their Kiwi Saver investments, and a lot of those people vote Green, or are Green politicians.

                      The fact that the ‘most people’ vote in the Greens shows ‘most people’ haven’t a fucking clue.

                      Where are the ‘most people’ when we are told our over populated island just had another 86,000 soles added to it?

                      Oh and ‘most people’ want to keep having babies

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    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
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  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
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  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
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  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
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  • Good little vassals
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
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  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
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  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
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  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
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  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Labour’s failure
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
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    The CivilianBy admin
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  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
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  • Cleaning up the water
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
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  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago

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