Lime Sour

Written By: - Date published: 7:17 pm, October 25th, 2018 - 56 comments
Categories: Abuse of power, Deep stuff, Ethics, health and safety, the praiseworthy and the pitiful, transport - Tags: , ,

I’m no killjoy, but I’m itching to chuck my first Lime scooter into a skip.

I’ve seen a ton of them this week, often being ridden by people clearly having terrific fun. I’ve also seen some demented usage; the woman with the leg in plaster wobbling down a busy city street with her crutches tucked under her arm takes the biscuit.

However, the majority of Lime scooters I’ve encountered have been parked up, usually on footpaths but occasionally on drives, lawns and other private property. To be fair, it’s fine by me if someone wants to leave a scooter in my driveway. I’ll simply drive over it. My 4WD loves a challenge.

The reason I’m sour on Lime is that the scooters are overwhelmingly left on footpaths. Navigating past Lime’s e-litter is a nightmare for anyone who is partially sighted, anyone pushing a pram, anyone using a wheelchair.

I’m the kind of guy who moves shop signs into the gutter if they block pedestrians. It’s simply unthinking, selfish behaviour to leave a scooter in a place where it’s going to be an obstacle for other people.

Lime know it’s an issue; their website asks people not to leave them parked irresponsibly. Naturally, that advice is routinely ignored by Lime users, as is the advice to wear a helmet.

Look, I don’t think these scooters will be with us long. Like finger spinners, they’ll fast fade away. But, in the meantime, they’re a nuisance.

I wouldn’t buy shares in the company because fashion fades fast and also because the lawsuits that will inevitably follow on from injuries to pedestrians and the deaths of users in the States will probably mean no profit will ever be made from them.

If you want cheap, efficient urban transport, don’t rent a scooter, people. Buy a bike. They’re genuine fun and the exercise will do you good.

 

 

56 comments on “Lime Sour ”

  1. Chris T 1

    I heard today on the radio that the calls to ACC have already started.

    Personally don’t mind as I can move out of the way, but a lot of people can’t. And I’m sorry, but if I see one run into a little kid, “Lime” will get that one back in pieces.

  2. Muttonbird 2

    I get triggered when I see cars parked across footpaths. Really gets my goat up.

  3. JC 3

    “I’m no Kill Joy” But ….

    They’re way bigger than that! And perhaps “A Revolution for urban transport”

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018666855/uber-e-bikes-and-e-scooters

    Currently being trialed in Auckland and ChCh. Sure there’ll be teething issues but perhaps give them a chance …. Curious the difference in response between North and South…

    “Christchurch Mayor Lianne Dalziel said no-one had raised any concerns about the scooters with her.”

    “I’ve only seen a lot of happy, smiling faces around town,”

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108097101/Auckland-Mayor-orders-urgent-scooter-safety-probe-after-councillor-almost-hit

    Alternatively ; http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/crackdown-on-lime-scooters-all-pedestrians-will-be-required-to-wear-helmets/

    • JC 3.1

      Who takes care of the scooters?

      “There were two types of people responsible for the scooters, Swanson said: Lime’s own team of local “operations specialists”, and independently contracted “juicers” paid to charge the devices.”

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/107911180/the-lowdown-on-lime-scooters-new-zealands-newest-transport-trend

    • Carolyn_Nth 3.2

      Christchurch is just a different layout to Auckland – flat vs hills where they can get up to high speeds, plus a large amount of pedestrians in central Auckland.

      Individual or collective ownership of e-scooters, plus dedicated cycle and scooter ways are the best option, .

      The report of a tryout on Greater Auckland is sobering – more expensive than a bus when going by footpath because of all the hold-ups at intersections – and the scooters costing by the minute. Plus footpaths in poor condition, which makes for a bumpy ride – sounds like not a lot of shock absorbers with the scooter’s hard wheels.

    • The Civilian is s crack up. Classic humour.

  4. RedLogix 4

    Yet if the same scooters where privately owned they’d be looked after and secured out of harm’s way.

    • McFlock 4.1

      Like bikes aren’t? lol.

      I reckon there’d just be fewer of them.

      It’s getting into summer. The free parking area I use for my 49cc will become filled with a maze of chrome randomly chained to available railings, becoming tripping hazards on the stairs and occasionally get bent by a reversing 4wd that just doesn’t give G.A.F. Happens every year in my wee corner.

      • RedLogix 4.1.1

        Ah no. There’s a difference and you know it.

        Provide secure parking for bicycles and it will generally get used. Most people don’t actually want their sometimes expensive bikes stolen or run over.

        But all over the world where it’s been tried, the trashing of ‘free’ non-private bikes, leaving them scattered around without care is the common problem.

        Brisbane has a public e-bike system that works ok by the look of it. But the bikes are locked in their racks and only released with a credit card. Don’t return it and you get pinged.

        • McFlock 4.1.1.1

          Is that an individual ownership issue or simply a higher number of trashable items issue?

          Sure, some cyclists will nab any secure bike cages they can, but others will leave their own bike parked wherever.

          There might be a little bit of rental car syndrome, but if you dump 600 bikes in a city with a x% usage at any point in time, at any point in time you’ll have 100-x% of those 600 laying around the place. Some will be parked carefully, some will be abandoned wherever, and there might also be an uptick of new users who maybe don’t know that bikes leaned somewhere might fall over, or basic bike etiquette.

          edit: I’m not actually against bikes or e-scooters in this instance. I just think tragedy of the commons is an easy answer to a more complex situation.

          • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1.1.1

            I just think tragedy of the commons is an easy answer to a more complex situation.

            1. They’re not in the ‘commons’ as they’re privately owned.
            2. The ‘Tragedy of the commons’ is actually a myth.

        • Carolyn_Nth 4.1.1.2

          The Auckland e-scooters are GPS tracked. To hire ne you need to enter a phone number and credit card details. The Greater Auckland post on it says

          Ending my ride, locking and leaving the scooter was easy although I saw a number of people reporting problems with doing so and being charged quite a bit for their travel.

          And that’s being charged at 30c a minute.

    • Carolyn_Nth 4.2

      I thought they were privately owned – by a company. And they charge users – 30c a minute.

      https://www.greaterauckland.org.nz/2018/10/16/lime-e-scooters-launch-in-auckland/

      • RedLogix 4.2.1

        True, but I don’t think it’s the company who leaves them lying about as TRP is rightly het up about.

        I guess my point is simple enough; private ownership is not necessarily a capitalist evil.

        • Carolyn_Nth 4.2.1.1

          Well in this case, the capitalist company charges users 30c a minute, which will encourage people to go as fast as possible. And that will conflict with any future regulation that requires a 5k speed limit around pedestrians.

      • Draco T Bastard 4.2.2

        Yep, bunch of people looking for rentier income.

    • JC 4.3

      Who takes care of the scooters?

      “There were two types of people responsible for the scooters, Swanson said: Lime’s own team of local “operations specialists”, and independently contracted “juicers” paid to charge the devices.”

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/107911180/the-lowdown-on-lime-scooters-new-zealands-newest-transport-trend

  5. Johnr 5

    The lady host on radio live this afternoon said she was in Santa Monica a week or two ago and e scooters were littering everywhere you looked, so much so that people had piled them up and set fire to them.

    • infused 5.1

      it was implemented pretty badly there, but people need to understand these escooters have been around for years without issue.

  6. joe90 6

    Investors with deep pockets use the app to beat all apps to take advantage of the poorly paid gig economy, ACC, and local body government to socialise their losses and hoover up any gains.

    Marvelous.
    /

    • JC 6.1

      “The advantage of our e-scooters is that they work together with existing public transit options, allowing people to rely less on personal cars …”

      “It’s exactly the kind of thing we want: zero emissions and a lot of fun.” ” said Christchurch Councilwoman Vicki Buck.

      https://www.li.me/blog/lime-down-under-auckland-and-christchurch-nz-join-e-scooter-movement

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/94891232/sports-injuries-cost-nz-500m–more-than-road-carnage

      Sport injuries cost ACC more than road crashes in 2016 with payouts totalling $542 million.

      ACC figures from 2016 show the gap is closing between the numbers of claims from New Zealand’s biggest contact sport – rugby – and claims related to fitness training accidents at the gym.

      “Some 62,337 New Zealanders claimed injuries on the the rugby field in 2016, while 51,319 injuries occurred inside the gym. Nationally, rugby injuries cost New Zealanders $78.2m a year compared with gym injuries at $30.5m.

      • joe90 6.1.1

        Yeah, sport is bad, m’kay. But let’s not put people’s life and limb at risk, add more claimants to a system that routinely fails to fulfill it’s obligations to existing claimants and load policy, policing and cleanup costs onto communities already struggling to deliver basic services so Vicki fucking Buck gets to feel good and offshore investors with deep pockets can make a dollar.

        • JC 6.1.1.1

          Halve the dose Joe!

          I get your Gig. It will be usefull to have a perspective over time as to the benefits, or otherewise, of an alternative urban transport system. Which is currently being trialled over a 3 month period in Auckland, and ChCh. But to jump to an immediate conclusion is premature!

          Some of the issues you raise will be addressed as part of that in due course. And as to offshore investors .. it might be worse…

          Following a Major MVA some years ago I am very familiar with ACC, and it’s faults! But I wont do a Selway..

          The less vehiciles on the road has to be a good thing!

          https://www.transport.govt.nz/resources/road-safety-resources/roadcrashstatistics/

          • joe90 6.1.1.1.1

            Taking vehicles off the road and putting them on the footpaths is a good thing?.

            • JC 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Scooters can be ridden on roads, footpaths and cycleways. The NZ Transport Agency originally said they could not be used in cycle lanes, but later said lanes could be used if riders were impeding traffic, with the expectation they would return to the road once safe to do so.

              I undertand Auckland Council has initaited a review following Christine Fletchers’ “near miss” and are likely to implement further guidelines/bylaws

              • joe90

                Swarms of the fucking things on the roads and the footpaths. Christ, it gets worse.

                • JC

                  As above; Two more companies plan to add another 3500 scooters in Auckland in the coming months.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108097101/Auckland-Mayor-orders-urgent-scooter-safety-probe-after-councillor-almost-hit

                  But then I don’t live there …. fortumately!

                  • Carolyn_Nth

                    I think there is a place for e-scooters, but they do need some regulating.

                    There should be speed restrictions around pedestrians, especially in Auckland’s CBD and busy shopping centres.

                    I haven’t had any problems with them personally, but an elderly woman I talked to did. She is slow moving, uses a walking stick and not that steady on her feet. A scooter whizzing past her was a very scary experience.

                    I saw a guy using the road on Wellesley street heading towards Queen Street (towards Symonds Street). He went down hill, with the traffic across the Queen Street intersection then up the hill after Queen Street. He then headed onto the pavement. He was going pretty fast, and really, a lot of these e-scooters in the CBD would be creating a hazard. And they aren’t really necessary there – especially as the buses can work out cheaper.

                    Walking from my bus stop to home last night, I could see that they will be useful to go that extra few Ks between public transport and home. The pavements are in a good state of repair. There are a lot of hills – up and down in my walk home. There was only me on the footpath, and I am used to keeping left while walking in these days of shared spaces. A guy was coming up the footpath on the other side of the road – no one walking there.

                    A young guy in a suit, with his satchell over his shoulder, whizzed pas, on down the hill and up the other side in a few seconds – and no one else walking there.

                    I could see a place for individually owned e-scooters that are kept inside when not used – or a neighbourhood collective owning a few.

                    There does need to be separate cycle/scooter ways to keep them separate from pedestrians and from bigger vehicles.

  7. Ed1 7

    There seems to be some confusion between bikes, e- scooters and motorised skate boards. I talked to a young person who hired a bike using the app – it cost 75c for more than 5 minutes. Apparently they can be tracked through a phone app – from following some they assessed that some were being “parked” in an apartment. Some had broken foot pedals (presumably from being dropped on the ground). In general the quality of the bike was low, but it was also cheap.

    I haven’t seen a motorised scooter here in Wellington, but there is a motorised skate board which is ridden past the university in the morning – seeing a young man standing while riding in a line of cars is a bit disconcerting – it appears to be controlled by a remote in his hand.

    • infused 7.1

      I use an escooter in Wellington. Keep it in the boot of my car to go to meetings around town.

  8. Ed 8

    Notice the weasel words?

    “If you’re riding on the road, 27 kilometres feels slow. If you’re riding on the footpath, it may be too fast,” Mr Rowe said.

    “At this point the NZTA has given the notion that we are able to operate without helmets… that process may change and we are open to that process and want to be part of that.”

    may…..
    …notion….

    Corporations are about profit.
    They don’t care about externalities.
    Like pedestrian safety.
    Or their customers’ heads.

    Ban the scooters unless they are in bike lanes.

    • Sacha 8.1

      “Ban the scooters unless they are in bike lanes.”

      Better build way more cycleways, pronto.

  9. Sanctuary 9

    Moral panic over the shock of change.

  10. Morrissey 10

    To be fair, it’s fine by me if someone wants to leave a scooter in my driveway. I’ll simply drive over it. My 4WD loves a challenge.

    Thanks for warning us, Mr Alan Gibbs. Or is it Chester Borrows?

  11. Treetop 11

    I walk a lot. An electric scooter is another obstacle which I will now need to look out for. My total hearing is 80% in one ear.

    A lad about 10 yesterday on an electric scooter nearly over shot the intersection and could have been run over.

    I commented on how fast his scooter was not realising at the time what it was. Once over the road he zoomed off.

  12. Kevin 12

    30km/h is excessive for scooters to be travelling at. The should be governed to 15-20km/h maximum.

  13. Brutus Iscariot 13

    They should probably be speed limited, either mechanically or just using a speed limit law.

    Overall a great initiative though to get people out of their cars, and avoid clogging the roads with low value, short distance trips.

    I also consider it a “gateway drug” to breaking the motoring addiction. Almost a stepping stone to cycling in some ways.

  14. infused 14

    muppets. i’ve had one for over two years now. These are not new, and my one can do close to 60km/hr.

    I suspect these will only get more popular. They are huge in the states along with booster boards.

    I have one of these https://www.blacksheeptrading.co.nz/product/2400w-dual-drive-electric-scooter/ plus a smaller etow.

  15. AsleepWhileWalking 15

    Bah, just some teething problems.

    We’re humans. We adapt. All good.

  16. Carolyn_Nth 16

    The Standard just got a mention by Jim Mora for saying “Lime is Sour”

  17. JC 17

    “Ride for free to vote in the midterm elections”

    “Get ready to scoot out the vote.

    Or at least, that’s what Lime is hoping the voting public will do this upcoming Election Day. The bike- and scooter-share company is offering a promo code for users to snag a free bike, e-bike, or e-scooter ride to and from the polls. ”

    https://mashable.com/article/lime-free-scooter-bike-vote/#0Nx45ULKiOqw

  18. JC 18

    “Electric bikes and e-scooters are flummoxing regulators while exciting consumers and venture capitalists” …

    https://www.economist.com/business/2018/06/23/how-two-wheelers-are-weaving-their-way-into-urban-transport

  19. Carolyn_Nth 19

    After bing out and about today in Auckland – some more thoughts.

    I have only seen guys on these lime e-scooters – and usually, if not always young ones. There is mention of women young and old trying them in the media and social media – but they must be the exception.

    This morning in the CBD when the weather was fine there were a few guys on them. I think there may be some battery issues after a Friday night. 2 of the guys were having issues going up the Wellesley Street hill – one guy went up OK. His mate just was gradually getting slower until he gave up and got off and walked. Another guy came soon after and was slowing down – not completely.

    This afternoon when it was bucketing down in the CBD, I didn’t see one person using them. They may be fair weather options when used as rentals.

    e-bikes, bikes and buses are probably better options for carrying stuff, including wet weather gear.

    And e-scooters are not active transport. A user is not getting much exercise, compared with walking to and from a bus stop or train.

    I wonder if many people will use them once the novelty wears off.

    • McFlock 19.1

      My reckons are along the same lines.

      They’re also a bit pricey to hire, compared to a bus or even a cab.

      • Carolyn_Nth 19.1.1

        Yes. They would be more cost efficient, and useful for some individuals to own their own.

        There have been non- electric scooters in use around Auckland for many years, and they don’t seem to be a problem. In my hood, I saw about 3 boys using them to get to school in a pack, with leg power not an e-motor. They didn’t seem to be annoying anyone. Some people take the leg power ones on buses and trains.

    • Infused 19.2

      The low powered ones can only handle small hills. This is why I have the bigger ones. Can fly up a 20 gradient at 30 40 still

      • Carolyn_Nth 19.2.1

        I suspected as much. I think they are machines that would suit some people to own individually. So far, the Auckland ones look to be being used as toys.

        Also, I was interested in the height of the ones for hire in Auckland.I had read that they really only suited tall people, and that someone of my height (between 5ft 2-3″) would not be suited to them.

        So, just been out shopping. How quickly these Lime things have become part of the local landscape. On a side road 2 guys in a van were collecting up the lime machines and putting them in the back of their van.

        2 tallish teenage guys walked past me on the side street. On the main road, they had a lime machine each. The handle bars were at the height of their elbows.

        Then I saw a woman on one for the first time. She was in a side road, was quite tall (handle bars below her elbow level), and she was riding it up and down the road – trying it out.

        On the foot path of the main road, a young girl was wobbling along on one. She was reaching up to the handle bars, and her head was just above the handlebars. I though users were meant to be over 18 and have a driver’s license?

        I walked past a lime machine on it’s side stand. The handle bars were about my shoulder level. And, as they are quite low on the ground, I reckon someone my height would not be very comfortable on one, and would not have very good control over it.

  20. Muttonbird 20

    I battled through a few today around north Viaduct Harbour.

    It looks like fun and the idea is fine I suppose except when people are silly with them. It is mildly annoying when they are parked in a place where it is natural for pedestrians to walk.

    In most places footpaths are wide enough to accommodate both pedestrians and bikes and even motorised scooters but problems do arise when they are used, as they will be, in areas where there is competition for footpath space. I’m talking about popular urban footpaths with eatery tables already making footpaths narrower. These are going to be the areas where lime scooters are most common unfortunately. The other thing is they are quite big.

    I’d prefer to see them on the road because they are motorised. Bikes are not motorised and are more connected to the rider and as such are less of a hazard to pedestrians so I don’t have much of an issue with them being on footpaths.

    Perhaps their numbers could be controlled by limits to density in any given area.

    • Chris T 20.1

      “In most places footpaths are wide enough to accommodate both pedestrians and bikes and even motorised scooters but problems do arise when they are used, as they will be, in areas where there is competition for footpath space. I’m talking about popular urban footpaths with eatery tables already making footpaths narrower.”

      I’m guessing that is why they haven’t dumped them in Wellington yet

      They would be a nightmare down Courtenay Place and Lambton Quay

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  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
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    While the world has largely transitioned to digital communication, faxing still holds relevance in certain industries and situations. Fortunately, gone are the days of bulky fax machines and dedicated phone lines. Today, you can easily send and receive faxes directly from your computer, offering a convenient and efficient way to ...
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    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    19 hours ago
  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
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  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
    The absolute brass neck of this guy.We want more medical doctors, not more spin doctors, Luxon was saying a couple of weeks ago, and now we’re told the guy has seven salaried adults on TikTok duty. Sorry, doing social media. The absolute brass neck of it. The irony that the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    19 hours ago
  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    20 hours ago
  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
    Having written, taught and worked for the US government on issues involving unconventional warfare and terrorism for 30-odd years, two things irritate me the most when the subject is discussed in public. The first is the Johnny-come-lately academics-turned-media commentators who … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    22 hours ago
  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    23 hours ago
  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    23 hours ago
  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    24 hours ago
  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
    Mariupol, on the Azov Sea coast, was one of the first cities to suffer almost complete destruction after the start of the Ukraine War started in late February 2022. We remember the scenes of absolute destruction of the houses and city structures. The deaths of innocent civilians – many of ...
    1 day ago
  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago
  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago
  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago
  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    1 day ago
  • Meeting the Master Baiters
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    1 day ago
  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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    1 day ago
  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago
  • Ministers are not above the law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago
  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago
  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    2 days ago
  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago
  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
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    3 days ago
  • Apposite Quotations.
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    3 days ago
  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago
  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago
  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    3 days ago
  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
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    3 days ago
  • State of humanity, 2024
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago
  • The case for cultural connectedness
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
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    4 days ago
  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • True Blue.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago
  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
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    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago
  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
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    5 days ago
  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

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    5 days ago
  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Did global warming stop in ...
    6 days ago
  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago
  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    Turning Point: What has turned me away from the mainstream news media is the very strong message that its been sending out for the last few years.” “And what message might that be?” “That the people who own it, the people who run it, and the people who provide its content, really don’t ...
    6 days ago
  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago
  • Sad tales from the left
    Michael Bassett writes –  Have you noticed the odd way in which the media are handling the government’s crackdown on surplus employees in the Public Service? Very few reporters mention the crazy way in which State Service numbers rocketed ahead by more than 16,000 during Labour’s six years, ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • In Whose Best Interests?
    On The Spot: The question Q+A host, Jack Tame, put to the Workplace & Safety Minister, Act’s Brooke van Velden, was disarmingly simple: “Are income tax cuts right now in the best interests of lowering inflation?”JACK TAME has tested another MP on his Sunday morning current affairs show, Q+A. Minister for Workplace ...
    6 days ago
  • Don’t Question, Don’t Complain.
    It has to start somewhereIt has to start sometimeWhat better place than here?What better time than now?So it turns out that I owe you all an apology.It seems that all of the terrible things this government is doing, impacting the lives of many, aren’t necessarily ‘bad’ per se. Those things ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 hour ago
  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago
  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
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    2 days ago
  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
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    2 days ago
  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
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    3 days ago
  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
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    3 days ago
  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
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    3 days ago
  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
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    3 days ago
  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
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    4 days ago
  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
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    4 days ago
  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
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    4 days ago
  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
    Finance Minister Nicola Willis will travel to the United States on Tuesday to attend a meeting of the Five Finance Ministers group, with counterparts from Australia, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.  “I am looking forward to meeting with our Five Finance partners on how we can work ...
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    4 days ago
  • Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlords
    The coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...
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