Lots of ideology, not argument

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I was going to write a piece on the much anticipated paper from ANZ’s chief economist on government spending. But now I’ve tracked it down and read it, there’s hardly any point. It’s just 4 pages in the Bank’s monthly market report and it reads like something I would expect from an excitable commerce student, not a professional economist.

Allegedly, the report shows ‘back-room’ government spending has increased 40% faster than ‘front-line’ spending but it takes a bizarre, self-serving definition of ‘front-line’ vs ‘back-room’ spending. No logic or arguments are provided for assigning spending to either category. Areas that have grown rapidly are lumped in backroom spending to bolster its growth figures. Health spending is not even included – if health were included in the ‘front-line’, there would be virtually no growth difference in ‘front-line’ and ‘back-office’. It then compares the percentage increases in these two stupid categories (which hides the fact that nearly all government spending is ‘frontline’) with the automatic conclusion that spending on the second category is bad.

In fact, the whole report is premised on the childish position that anything non-‘front-line’ is waste – but you can’t have a ‘front-line’ without back office support. Hell, ANZ’s chief economist has a back office job, is he a waste of money? (don’t answer that)

[Update: “Stick to Banking CTU tells Bank Economist“, ouch]

65 comments on “Lots of ideology, not argument”

  1. J 1

    Maybe you should talk to some nurses or hospital patients regards the importance of backroom vs frontline staff. I’m sure it could be enlightening.

    As someone who once occupied a lowly paid frontline position in a govnt department we certainly had strong opinions regarding those highly paid ‘essential’ backroom policy analyst churning out insightful reports.

  2. Daveski 2

    In my industry (science/research) same thing – there is genuine concern at the front line about the size and impact of the backroom.

    Ditto education.

    Ditto health.

    I agree that there needs to be a back room in order to function – I am one of those back room people. But there is more than a suspicion that the back room has expanded at the expense of the front line operations under Labour.

  3. well that “more than a suspicion” is not backed up by this joke of a report.

  4. randal 4

    for every soldier in the frontline during ww11 it took 19 others to support him…the right whinge want people to go round ignorant and confused so they can be manipulated at will by the marketers and the profiteers.,,economists are as common as dentists anyway…JM Keynes.

  5. Why didnt Bagrie include “Im a National voter” in his report. I also see the herald were happy to call him an ‘expert’.

  6. J 6

    There is a role for backroom staff as afterall what you can’t measure you cannot manage and for accountabilities sake.

    But when people are being left in the corridors of hospitals like my grandmother was after a stroke I would say that money could be better spent on frontline staff who make a real difference to peoples lives.

  7. randal 7

    Oh I forgot to mention the big four bank chief economists got their own full page in the SST a couple of weeks ago and now they all think they are akin to moses preaching from on high by holy writ. they are just employees of profit taking institutions pretending to be impartial so they can push their own barrows.

  8. andy 8

    ANZ are talking their ‘book’, no surprise!

    SYDNEY (Thomson Financial) – Australia & New Zealand Banking Group’s (ANZ) 200 million US dollar one-off loss provision relating to its exposure to a troubled US monoline bond insurer is seen as a ”clearing of the decks,” an analyst said on Monday.

    ANZ write down.

    They have also moved ANZ technology to Bangalore blah, blah, blah so they could save on back office costs, pity we can’t offshore the NZ govt to India…

    /snark

  9. Daveski 9

    SP – I could see that being a reasonable response to my comment. At the same time, I suspect that the report is closer to the truth than you would like to admit. I just don’t have the facts at hand to back up my suspicions.

    In this case, the verdict must be not guilty which is not the same as innocent 🙂

    [lprent: see my note at http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=2464#comment-68082 Consider the effects of annoying a sysop]

  10. Matthew Pilott 10

    Steve – when you have time i’d be interested to see some stuff about what is/isn’t ‘back office’ according to this report, and what was excluded. Hell, maybe I’ll have a look myself instead of asking you to do it. I’m all for personal responsibility (since it’s just a bloody slogan the tories wish they could coypright).

    Cap subsidy racisim – err…no. Only at Orewa.

  11. J you can’t admit that backoffice staff are a vital part and then say you would prefer the money was spent elsewhere instead.

    if you want more hospital capacity, you should support more spending on health – both ‘front’ and ‘back’ – seems people want tax cuts instead.

    Daveski. You don’t have an argument, it’s just a bunch of assertions, what’s to seriously discuss?

  12. BeShakey 12

    I don’t think this report is as bad as you suggest, its more of a ‘so what?’ report. Given the number of caveats and the questions/issues/explanations that were either ignored or acknowledged but not investigated its pretty much impossible to draw any sensible conclusions from the report (which does raise the question of why they bothered to publish something that was so shoddy).

    The other thing to keep in mind is that there are, and will always be more efficient ways that government could be working (but show me a private business that couldn’t be run any more efficiently and I’ll show you a business you don’t understand). The problem is that saying ‘more front-line staff and less back-room staff’ isn’t a solution, it’s a slogan. If you really want to provide public services more efficiently something a lot more rigourous and well thought-out than most of what is floating round is needed.

  13. Nothing to see here folks, move along, nothing to see.

    (Quick, declare victory and move on. And while your at it call the CTU and get them to pull some skeletons out of ANZ’s closet to distract the media.)

  14. mike 14

    So once again any report that paints the govt in a bad light is dismissed.
    Steve, don’t shoot the messenger – the ANZ are not pushing an agenda they are reporting on the facts.

    “(but show me a private business that couldn’t be run any more efficiently and I’ll show you a business you don’t understand). ”

    What the? Have you ever worked in the private sector?
    A private business would not survive with a backroom ratio anything like the public sectors.

  15. Positive and ambitious 15

    I think the value of reports like this is summed up best by this definition I heard (at an economist’s conference) years ago….

    An economist is a man who knows 100 different ways to make love to a woman….. but doesn’t know any women

  16. BeShakey 16

    Mike – I can now show you someone who can’t read either. I never said that business and government could or should be run the same way. Simply that inefficiency isn’t the sole preserve of government. Try not to let your ideology get in the way of your ability to read.

  17. mike. you haven’t read the report, i have, i’ve made fundemental criticisms of it as have others. that’s not shooting the messenger, that’s called informed political debate, you might like to try it

  18. Lew 18

    mike: “A private business would not survive with a backroom ratio anything like the public sectors.”

    The primary reason for this (and the primary reason for policy analysts) is that the private sector is held to much less stringent requirements of conduct and management than the public sector. Private business is required to grow profits, and there aren’t all that many strictures on how that’s done. (Contrary to frequent complaints about over-regulation, NZ is consistently rankes as among the easiest developed countries in which to do business).

    The public sector has to be inclusive, ethical, transparent, and respectful of the needs of all its customers. The market doesn’t apply as it does in private business, because public service agencies don’t have competition. What this means is that instead of rationalising poor service or poor policy away to `well, customers can go elsewhere’, the public service has to improve its policies and service so as to include those customers. It needs policies and procedures to ensure it’s not excluding people to whom it owes service, and to ensure that its decisions are ethically right as well as right in terms of promoting business. This, which many people deride as `PC’, takes a lot of doing; a lot more than you seem to imagine.

    If freed from these extra-business requirements, there would indeed be a need for far fewer `bureaucrats’. What it boils down to is whether you think these non-monetary aspects of the public service have value. I do.

    L

  19. Matthew Pilott 19

    Bryan, that comment was directed towards the inside of your head, yeah?

    mike – do you think the Government’s goal, its raison d’etre is to make profit for shareholders? If so, then I could see your argument for getting rid of all these back office types. That would also make you a unique, paradoxical combination of communist-capitalist. If not, the comparison between the two is of no value.

  20. “Government bureaucrats wages are up 8.8% this year while wages for the rest of us are up 4.5%.”

    It’s clear who is causing inflation, it’s not the poachers it’s the game keepers.

  21. Billy 21

    Positive and ambitious,

    That reminds me of:

    An actuary is someone who wanted to be an accountant but did not have the personality.

  22. Tane 22

    Bryan:

    Annual wage growth in the private sector was 3.5% in the year to March 2008, the largest annual increase recorded by the LCI. Annual public sector wage growth increased slightly to 3.3% in March 2008 from 3.1% in December 2007.

    http://www.dol.govt.nz/publications/lmr/lmr-wage-growth-summary.asp

  23. Bryan – although this is off topic I have noticed that you were the one who tried to scoopit Davey’s weak smear on the standard. Would you like to explain why you attempted to propagate an unsubstantiated smear against this site? Is it because you can’t win an logical argument here? It seems like a pretty pathetic and underhanded thing to do. Are you pathetic and underhanded?

    [Tane: Sod, that’s off-topic and likely to lead to threadjacking and flamewars. Please restrain yourself. If Bryan wants to act like a jerk on other sites that’s his business. Alternatively, take it to Sodblog.]

  24. mike 24

    “mike. you haven’t read the report, i have”

    Correct Steve, but working in the private sector I do not have time to read all the fine print.
    I got the gist of it from Bernard Hickey’s business report on Radio Live this morning.
    Next I guess you are going to run him down as a tory…

  25. Lew 25

    BS: Source? I’ve seen figures with a much smaller delta.

    Edit: Ah, the lag. Thanks Tane. BS, the query stands – put up your numbers or face ridicule.

    L

  26. Matthew Pilott 26

    It’s clear who is causing inflation, it’s not the poachers it’s the game keepers.

    Petrol prices up 63%, food up 23% or thereabouts. I think it’s the game, Bryan, not the game keepers. Where did you get that stat from anyway?

    Govt spending as a % of GDP is below OECD average too, which is hardly a damning indictment.

  27. Matthew Pilott 27

    Mike – you still haven’t actually made any decent assertions about the report, a hazy stab at the back-office requirements of private vs public industry isn’t much use. No need to run Hickey down as being a Tory, if what you say is based upon listening to him (coz it didn’t help you).

  28. Sorry Tane – but the little creep comes here, spouts his economically illiterate lies and then gets called on them. The fact that he then slides off to try to smear the standard pisses me off. What an impotent loser. I’ll say no more.

    edit: except that he’s shown there’s no point in arguing with the poisonous little oik as he is only interested in his warped agenda. Not the facts.

  29. Billy 29

    Four lifetime apologies (and three in a week).

  30. Lew/Matthew: Ironically those numbers are courtesy of the Government bureaucracy: Statistics NZ.

  31. higherstandard 31

    Lew

    Can I take issue with your comments above (appended and abbrevaited below)

    ‘The public sector …… This, which many people deride as `PC’, takes a lot of doing; a lot more than you seem to imagine.’

    While I agree that there is more of an obligation on the public sector and this will often lead to an increase in the “backroom” one could also expect that this increase in the ‘backroom’ would lead to continuous improvements in the service offered.

    Where I take issue is there appears to be a number of instances/examples in which there has been little improvement, no change, or a decline in service despite these backroom increases.

    Although I haven’t thoroughly read the report I am in complete agreement with the comment as below.

    ‘…here’s a challenge to Treasury, as guardians of the public purse. Develop a set of fiscal indicators that will allow independent assessments as to the mix and quality of government spending.

    And in answer to the question that the report poses slightly earlier – No we do not need 21 DHBs in NZ.

  32. Anita 32

    BS,

    Which StatsNZ data set?

  33. A – the one’s from his personal stash. He keeps them under his bed in the same tin as his copies of “Atlas Shrugged” and “how to win friends and influence people” (he hasn’t finished that one yet…)

  34. Anita 34

    ‘sod,

    I’ll miss you while you’re gone 🙂

  35. T-rex 35

    The funny thing is that if the real world equivalents of John Galt and Hank Rearden did sneak off and form a libertarian utopia you can guarantee they wouldn’t invite Bryan.

    Is a tool
    |
    |
    /

  36. Robinsod: I wonder if you would say those things if you were commenting under your real name: I suspect not.

  37. Ha! Classic! He’d probably try to hide in their luggage…

    edit: why would you want to know who I am, bryan? So you could poison my dog? Or maybe crank call in the middle of the night… Get a life you spineless little man.

  38. Kevyn 38

    Oh come on. We all know the only problem with our hospitals is they’ve got more managers than nurses. How come when the ANZ says it you start making stuff up about managers being just as important as nurses.

  39. J 39

    “J you can’t admit that backoffice staff are a vital part and then say you would prefer the money was spent elsewhere instead.”

    Actually I can. It’s called a balanced opinion as opposed to your kneejerk partisan response on a study which gave an interest insight into government spending which you dislike simply because it shows labour in a bad light.

    Your invective on ANZ’s ‘ideology’ is simply nonsense. They are not working for a political party or cause as you are which would make your attack ideological.

  40. Tane 40

    Guys, let’s cool it down a little. There’s no need to get personal.

    But Bryan, seriously, you have to understand that you’re going to get ridiculed if you put up stats like that and can’t front with the figures to back it up.

  41. Tane 41

    J, you seriously think banks don’t have a political agenda?

  42. Matthew Pilott 42

    HS – I haven’t the time for a detailed reply, one of which your comment warrants, I’d just like to comment about you asking for treasury to give fiscal guidelines for government spending.

    This is dangerous for two reasons. I: Hate to say this (bryan, cover your eyes) but fiscal ain’t everything – outcomes can’t always, or even often, be classified according to some financial imperative.

    II: That’s what the private sector is for (yes, it serves a purpose). Once the government adopts the private sector’s goal for provisioning (i.e. purely financial) what will the point of a government be?

    This isn’t carte blanche for the Government to blow cash
    without any accountability, but implementing fiscal measures will be counterproductive. Good qualitative measures are what’s needed. Eg a recent survey showing that our health system is rated as pretty damn good by a high percentage of NZers, and that most would keep it as it is…

  43. mondograss 43

    I’ve just read the ANZ article and I have to say that it seems to be very poor quality research. Yes they’ve qualified all (or most) of their assumptions, but to not be able to decide which category health spending belongs in, or to exclude welfare spending specifically on the basis that it has had low growth, frankly boggles the mind. I would be ashamed to hand a report like that in for an undergrad economics essay, let alone for publication to the clients of a major bank.

  44. Matthew: To answer your question re source.

    “Table 9 in the QES (Stats NZ Quarterly Employment Survey) spreadsheet shows that that the average hourly gross wage for those in the government administration and defence (ie core bureaucracy) sector was NZ$30.93 an hour in the March quarter, up 8.8% from a year ago. The all industries figure was NZ$23.66 an hour, which was 24% below that of the average bureaucrat and up only 4.6% for the year.”

    “The government has employed 16% more bureaucrats in Wellington in the last four years and has paid them 18% more per hour to work there. It has asked them to work 1.5 hours less a week. Meanwhile the rest of us are working 1.8 hours a week longer than we used to and our wages have fallen further behind those of the bureaucrats.”

    Yep, it’s time to bring back the QUANGO hunters.

  45. You retard. The QES covers all allowances and overtime payments and is a measure of average wages. Your mate should be using the LCI (adjusted) as it measures only the changes in salary and wage rates for the same quality and quantity of work. Which is the appropriate measure for matter under discussion.

    I suspect he knows that and discovered it didn’t show the spin he needs to justify his ideology.

    And again (for the cheap seats) – you retard.

    [lprent: Less of the personal stuff…. What has got you wound up today – I’ll probably find out as I work backwards]

    [lprent: Ah and already noted on by Tane. What do you reckon ‘sod? I’m on holiday because of funeral – can’t see a good reason to give you one as well. Of course you could continue in the same vein and get some time to help BIlly with the posts]

  46. Matthew Pilott 46

    So after all that bryan, NZ has an average percentage of workers in the government (1%) and below OECD average expenditure on the public sector. I don’t know what ACT has to do with it, but I suspect it’s based on hype and Mr “Perk-Buster” as opposed to doing anything of value.

  47. John BT 47

    In 1999 we had around 1500 policy analysts working for the government, 3 years later we had 3000. God knows how many there are now and nobody knows what they do. This is the backroom waste we could do without.

  48. Robinsod: Care to dispute the numbers directly on Bernard’s blog ?

  49. Rob 49

    [Tane: So now you’re accusing The Standard of being written by 1500 public service policy analysts hired by Helen Clark for that express purpose? FFS, that’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard all week.]

  50. Robinsod: Care to dispute the numbers directly on Bernard’s blog ?

    Man you really need the traffic, eh?

    Lynn – I will admit “retard” may have been a little harsh but FFS the guy’s using the QES to argue a situation where the LCI is the natural dataset! And he misuses apostrophes! Words cannot express the pain all of this cause causes me…

    [lprent: corrected your syntax. That pains me as well. Programmers really love language syntax. Pity this language does not have a compiler to check it for you.]

  51. higherstandard 51

    Tane

    Point of order.

    The dumbest thing I’ve heard all week is that a missile defence system is being set up in the Czech republic to defend against attack from the Middle East – sounds like a bizarre plot out of a Simpson’s episode.

  52. Tane 52

    HS, we are agreed on that one.

  53. RedLogix 53

    On RNZ Checkpoint Mary Wilson first of all gives an Auckland DHB person a grilling for NOT having the resource to audit resthomes more often than once per three years, and not picking up events like the elderly resident whose mouth was taped.

    Then the very NEXT item Wilson regurgitates the Bagry ANZ report and gives Brownlee free air time to prat on about how all bureacratic backroom activity is a waste and will be cut by a National govt.

    Not the slightest hint from Wilson challenging Brownlee, or recognition that you cannot have it both ways, that you cannot have a transparent, well monitored and accountable public sector without the very “back-room” services that National/Bagry are claiming are a waste.

    On the other hand it can only be welcomed if they do slash the public sector bureacracy… lack of transparency, muddled policy implementation, poor accountability of spending and inevitably a rise in corruption will result. Will make Nat Ministers an easy target.

  54. lprent 54

    Be interesting getting the FinSec take on the report. It seems to me that the banks have steadily been reducing front-end staff forever. I wonder what the percentage growth in their backend relative to the font-end looks like.

  55. Lew 55

    Lynn: “It seems to me that the banks have steadily been reducing front-end staff forever.”

    This is what my wife, who started working on the `front line’ in a major retail bank in 1999 and currently works in the back office of the same bank,. said to me this morning as we listened to the Morning Report coverage.

    Not that anecdote is a unit of data.

    L

  56. Tane 56

    Lynn, finsec’s release is here:

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0807/S00150.htm

    [Captcha: fractured cashier]

  57. Anita 57

    BS,

    From DoL

    The QES is affected by changes in the composition of the workforce as well as changes in pay rates, while the LCI measures changes in pay rates for a fixed set of jobs. The LCI is, therefore the preferred measure of wage growth because it reflects changes in salary and wages for the same quality and quantity of work.

    There’s more detail in the appendix if you want/need it.

    ‘sod’s right, LCI would’ve been the right measure. QES conflates who is employed by the public service, what they are being paid to do, and how much they’re being paid. LCI gives you like-with-like pay increase.

    I often wish Stats would provide a “if you’re looking to answer this sort of question you want that dataset there” set of pointers, along with some flags about what not to do with a particular data set. It’s way too easy to grab a set which looks about right and get an answer which is not quite what it looks like.

  58. Anita 58

    BS,

    So, the numbers you want for March 2008 quarter

    Salary and ordinary time increase over 12 months

    Public sector: 3.4%
    Private sector: 3.5%

    All salary and wage increase over 12 months

    Public sector: 3.3%
    Private sector: 3.5%

    So public sector increases are marginally lower than private sector.

    Oops – Tane’s linked to these above, my only excuse is that they’re nice clear numbers which bear repeating 🙂

  59. ‘sod’s right, LCI would’ve been the right measure.

    ‘Sod’s always right. It’s a curse I tell yah, a curse…

  60. Anita 60

    ‘sod,

    It’s hard to be you, I can tell 🙂

  61. Lew 61

    That’s an unequivocal response from FINSEC. What makes it interesting is that they see this as an attack on workers, rather than a defence of the front-line staff, as the report purports to be. They clearly see NBNZ’s outsourcing move and this as two parts in a pattern.

    A union has nothing to gain by criticising a major employer in its sector for attacks against workers in another sector, so it’s a big call.

    Curious that Don Brash is involved, too.

    L

  62. El_Pinko 62

    “Salary and ordinary time increase over 12 months

    Public sector: 3.4%
    Private sector: 3.5%

    All salary and wage increase over 12 months

    Public sector: 3.3%
    Private sector: 3.5%

    So public sector increases are marginally lower than private sector.”

    What are the nominal rates that these % increases apply to?

    Anecdotally it seems to me that for a lot of my intelligent; well educated and ambitious mates back home they need to apply for either a job with the Govt. or a job connected too the Govt. In order to be paid well and get ahead both financially and in their career.

    i.e. I have a mate who works for mgmt. consultants in Welly and he researches the efficent allocation of NZ Police resources. Although he is not a public sector employee his wages do end up coming from the public purse…

    It pains me to say it but point to another developed western society where it would seem the best career opportunities are with the Govt.

    I can’t decide whether it is an indictment on either;

    A) Too much Govt. therefore sucking up good talent

    or

    B) Piss-poor private sector management that is unable to generate the opportunties that these people seek.

    I suspect it is a little of both…

  63. Tane 63

    El-Pinko. It’s worth noting that public servants tend to be well unionised while their equivalents in the private sector are not. If you want a pay rise join your union – simple as that.

  64. Anita 64

    El_Pinko,

    Everything you could every want to know about the LCI is provided by Statistics NZ. This includes discussions of the coverage, methods, etc.

    All the stats geeky excitement you could want, and more 🙂

  65. Phil 65

    Tane,

    That’s just dumb – The PSA was so short of members they virtually bribed staff to join up a couple of years back.
    Being a rational economist, I signed up, took the free cash, then changed jobs and ceased membership… along with almost every other under-30 that worked for the same govt department.

    On a broader note, I don’t think you have any hard-evidence to suggest union members recieve better pay, or larger rises, than their non-union colleagues. Equally, I don’t have any hard evidence going the other way.

    We could start with an occupational breakdown of the LCI, making assumptions about the relative unionisation of each category, but it’s a fairly tenuous assessment at best.

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  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    4 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    4 days ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    5 days ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    5 days ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    5 days ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    5 days ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    6 days ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    7 days ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    7 days ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    7 days ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
    The State Services Commission and Ombudsman have released another batch of OIA statistics, covering the last six months. Request volumes are up, and the core public service is generally handling them within the legal timeframe, though this may be because they've learned to extend rather than just ignore things. And ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Time for a New Deal: 25 years on
    In 1994, I was editing an ambitious street mag called Planet, from a fabled office at at 309 Karangahape Road. The thirteenth issue of the magazine was published in the winter of that year and its cover embodied a particularly ambitious goal: the end of cannabis prohibition.I wanted to do ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Not impressed
    KiwiBuild was one of the Ardern government's core policies. The government would end the housing crisis and make housing affordable again by building 100,000 new homes. Of course, it didn't work out like that: targets weren't met, the houses they did build were in the wrong place, and the whole ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Solar beats coal
    As the climate crisis escalates, it is now obvious that we need to radically decarbonise our economy. The good news is that its looking easy and profitable for the energy sector. Wind is already cheaper than fossil fuels, and now solar is too:The levellised cost of solar PV has fallen ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Step Too Far.
    A Crown Asset? For reasons relating to its own political convenience, the Crown pretends to believe that “No one owns the water.” To say otherwise would re-vivify the promises contained in the Treaty of Waitangi – most particularly those pertaining to the power of the chiefs and their proprietary rights ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Where Money Comes From
    Most people would say, no doubt, that they have a pretty good idea of what money is. They live with the reality of money every day. It is what is needed to buy the necessities of life and to maintain a decent standard of living. You get money, they would ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Banned by the Green Party leadership: Jill Abigail on women’s rights and trans rights
    The article below was an opinion piece that appeared in the Spring 2019 issue of Te Awa (the NZ Green Party’s newsletter) and on the Greens website.  In keeping with their policy of hostility to women defending women’s right to female-only spaces, Green bureaucrats have since removed the opinion piece.  ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The fallacy of the proximity argument.
    Longer term readers may remember my complaining that, as a political scientist, it is burdensome to have non-political scientists wanting to engage me about politics. No layperson would think to approach an astrophysicist and lecture him/her on the finer details of quarks and black holes, but everybody with an opinion ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Where We Stood: Chris Trotter Replies To Stevan Eldred-Grigg.
    Joining The Fight: Stevan Eldred-Grigg's argument for New Zealand staying out of the Second World War fails not only on the hard-headed grounds of preserving the country’s strategic and economic interests; and not just on the soft-hearted grounds of duty and loyalty to the nation that had given New Zealand ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Universities back the climate strike
    On September 27, School Strike 4 Climate will be striking for a future to pressure the government for meaningful climate action. This time, they've asked adults to join them. And now, Lincoln University and Victoria University of Wellington have signed on:Victoria University of Wellington has joined Lincoln University in endorsing ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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