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Nasty little bloggitses

Written By: - Date published: 12:46 pm, April 29th, 2015 - 76 comments
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The anonymous editorial in the Herald this morning felt like it had been designed by committee.  There were some criticisms of Key and National but the editorial tried to suggest that basically things are fine for National.  And strangely it says that there will be a budget surplus announced next month, despite numerous indications to the contrary.

The writer takes the latest digipoll poll result, suggesting stability in political support for the parties, as some sort of endorsement of Key’s behaviour.  Parsing increasingly small numbers and drawing conclusions not justified by ever increasing margins of error it has drawn the conclusion that everything is fine in New Zealand and no one has been disgusted or dismayed by recent revelations about Key’s behaviour.  Even though half of the polling occurred before Ponygate occurred and some would have occurred during the immediate confusing aftermath the conclusion made is that no reputation damage has occurred.  The writer fails to understand that polling change is rarely immediate but usually involves the gradual seeping of support as people tire of the country’s leadership and as mistake builds on top of mistake.

The editorial develops the defensive stance that National pollsters no doubt have concluded is the most likely to succeed.

[Key] probably owes his survival in the poll to his enemies. They were so quick to accuse him of bullying, harassment, physical abuse and worse, that fair-minded people came to his defence. He was guilty of being a bit goofy, they argued, nothing worse. But to tug someone’s hair repeatedly sounds worse. It sounds odd.

This is an interesting thing to say as Key’s actions have been met with almost universal condemnation.  The only people I can think of who have defended him are Sean Plunkett, Mike Hosking and Bob Jones.  To suggest that these are fair minded people is farcical.

The writer has a bit of a kick at academics and left wing bloggers and says this:

In the meantime, the unusually sustained popularity of the PM is causing intense frustration among his opponents, not so much in Parliament but outside it, on websites and in some academic circles where resentment has become extreme. These people are doing their cause no favours with their seething hatred of a political figure who everyone else knows to be an economic moderate and social liberal. They are not helping Labour’s recovery, still below 30 per cent in this poll, and the Greens remain around 10 per cent. Probably nothing will change until the economy turns down and so far there is no sign of it. Growth is so strong, despite low dairy prices, that the Reserve Bank cannot cut interest rates this week in line with other countries. Growth should be producing a surplus in the Budget next month.

Key is not an economic moderate.  He has overseen the major transfer of wealth to the already wealthy and the selling off of as much of the state’s resources as possible.

And seething hatred?  No just the insistence that as a country New Zealand could be doing way better than it is now and disbelief at the myths that have been created about Key.

The editorial refuses to accept how close the political balance is and plays up the suggestion that National is head and shoulders ahead of the rest.  The reality is that things are narrowly balanced.  National on the last election’s results are 2 to 3 % ahead.  Small shifts could be decisive.

Whether or not Ponygate has had an effect on support will become clearer as time goes by.  Concluding that it has had no effect because of part of a poll and blaming evil lefty bloggitses for this is presumptuous in the extreme.

76 comments on “Nasty little bloggitses”

  1. shorts 1

    they’re jealous that the story broke outside their domain… and their tail wagers are too cause they couldn’t control the story because “bloggers”

    We all know how hard the herald would have gone on this if the hair puller was len brown

  2. ropata 2

    Perhaps some of the opprobrium heaped on key was OTT. but if the herald paid any attention to their own comments section they might notice it goes both ways. I think granny has a grudge against blogs in general especially after TDB exposed the herald’s tabloid tactics. it seems we are not allowed to be mad about JK’s antics.
    the statements from labour and the greens were appropriately condemning of workplace harassment but didn’t go much beyond that. don’t blame the opposition for popular sentiment when it turns against the GodKey

    • shorts 2.1

      they’ll always hate blogs and bloggers, cause they threaten their patch and journalists means of earning an income…. course they could take the high ground and take the role of the media more seriously or they could get nasty and click baity

      remember when the herald et al were so down on twitter (and Facebook)… now its a source for many of their “stories”… blogs will possibly be the same, well some blogs – they’re not all created equal you know

    • Raf 2.2

      OTT? Compared to John Oliver’s hilarious response – and he has no axe to grind – I think our bloggitses have been remarkably restrained!

    • Tracey 2.3

      And given the Herald’s behaviour around the allegations about Glucina, they can ahrdly be seen to be impartial in wanting this issue to disappear.

  3. Tigger 3

    This is another attempt at minimisation. Look at how the editorial uses ‘websites’ (read, lefty bloggers), ‘academic circles’ (read, lefty smarty pants people).

    This painting Key as a ‘social liberal’ is also possibly his greatest achievement. Key is personally extremely conservative. He goes ‘liberal’ only when the focus groups tell him that is politically savvy thing to do (gay marriage, for example, he is personally very opposed but jumped ship after Obama and after polls here showed it would pass).

    Look, let’s be honest. Even his supporters think him fondling a little girl’s hair (not someone he knew, by the way, Jones argued he tugs his granddaughter’s (or at least she’s a relative) hair playfully but would he do it to a total stranger?) is creepy as hell. This is not going to go away.

  4. swordfish 4

    Yeah, we’ll have to see how it plays out over the next few months. I’ve always been a little sceptical about any notions of a sudden, decisive impact on Key’s/National’s ratings.

    Still, I see (in Audrey Young’s story) that, according to DigiPoll’s Nandan Modak, the Nats dropped 0.7 percentage points in the 2nd half of the polling, with Key’s preferred PM rating down 0.8 points. So, possibly some immediate impact, albeit relatively minor.

    • swordfish 4.1

      Incidentally, I’d suggest people don’t take too much notice of Key’s 64.6% Preferred PM rating in the Herald-DigiPoll. Unlike the other Pollsters, DigiPoll calculates its PM ratings on Decided respondents only. In other words, they exclude the hefty proportion of respondents who say ‘None of the Above’ or ‘Not Sure’ (always a much greater % than for the Party vote question). Which is why you always get this enormous disparity between:
      (1) Colmar Brunton and Reid Research, where Key is usually in the late 30s to mid 40s as preferred PM, and
      (2) Herald-DigiPoll, where he’s almost always in the 60s and occasionally up in the early 70s.

      (Decided is probably not quite the right word, given that those who choose None of the above are, in their own way, quite clearly ‘Decided’).

      • Tracey 4.1.1

        about 11% were undecideds int hat poll I think

        • swordfish 4.1.1.1

          Yeah, 11.8% – but that’s for the Party Vote, not the Preferred PM.

          • Tracey 4.1.1.1.1

            ah, sorry. Did they not say what it was for PM/?

            I remember curia polling me prior to the election asking me to rate the leaders of the parties…

            Turei wasn’t included and Bill English was…

  5. Gosman 5

    I commented about this before although I suspect many people’s inherent bias means that the point will always be lost. This is a good thing from my perspective as it tends to mean the left make bad political calls. As I stated before the danger for the left is to over egg the attacks on John Key. An example of this is trying to claim that this case should automatically lead to John Key’s resignation not just from his role as Prime Minister but from Parliament as has been made by umerous people on the left including on this very blog. That is likely to be seen by a significant section of the electorate as just being excessive and politically vindictive. It would be better for the left to take the death by a thousand cuts apporach and allow this to create an opportunity to tarnish his reputation amongst the median voter demographic where Key is so strong.

    • mickysavage 5.1

      Citations please. For one I have never said Key should resign because of this.

      • Tracey 5.1.1

        I have.

        Using his own low standards Key should resign. By low standards I mean the level fo behaviour for which Gilmour had to go…

      • Gosman 5.1.2

        I Fought the Law

        “The same stand down scenario probably should apply if he faces ERA, Privacy Act or Human Rights Act cases,”

        Stating he should stand down if he simply faces (rather than is found guilty) charges under those laws is what I am meaning when I write about over egging. In fact even bringing up the possibility is probably crossing the line in terms of people’s perceptions.

        A much better tack would be to wait until the situation occurs and then call for him to stand down. Doing so now just looks like your ultimate end goal is to get rid of John Key rather than anything else.

        • Tracey 5.1.2.1

          “t is sad because it means many NZers still don’t understand that sexual violence and abuse is on a continuum of behaviour.

          That the so-called “small stuff” matters in terms of how girls see themselves and how they will or won’t become susceptible to victimization by others. That some men and women in this country think that men behaving poorly toward females doesn’t make any difference.

          That you see it as something to be glib about is just sad.

          Oh and that our expectations of our Leaders have never been lower.” Tracey

          • Gosman 5.1.2.1.1

            This whole “Rape Culture” angle is a massive turn off for a large number of people. I’m not just meaning males either. I discuss this with left leaning women to get their take on it and by far the majority regard it as quite extreme. You may not like that this is the case but jumping up and down about it and demanding people see the world the way you see the world is rather futile and counter productive in my view.

            • Tracey 5.1.2.1.1.1

              I know your view is shared by many Gosman. That is not a revelation to me. For every “left leaning” woman you talk to I can name a man who agrees with my view on it. So what to do. What to do.

              Please do not patronise me Gosman (“jumping up and down” and “futile”), it is unbecoming to both of us and is almost like you are accidentally proving my point.

              • Gosman

                Not many right leaning men would though and that is your problem. To get the acceptance for your views that you quite obviously desire requires it to be accepted by a wide cross section of society not just a narrow minority on the far left of the political spectrum. I acknowledge you may dispute my labels in terms of where you stand but it is a widely held view that this is where it comes from.

                • McFlock

                  Gosh, achieving social change involves achieving a change in a wide cross-section of society.

                  Thanks for that insight.

                  A miracle that social attitudes can change over time, isn’t it…

                  • Tracey

                    LOL

                    Critical mass helps…

                    and right leaning men dont yet accept that they may behave inappropriately toward women, discriminate against them (wages and salary) , so it can’t be true.

                • Tracey

                  No, try and understand Gosman. Our problem is that too many men and some woman think that women being regarded and treated as second class (covertly and overtly) is ok.

                  That particular battle has been going on for some decades,with some improvements. It is not about this government or the last one it is about individual people within a society learning to change their behaviour. Change is tough, people prefer the comfort and safety of where they are. That si why we have laws and role models, including Prime Ministers, so that people get the message, from many quarters, that just because the person (Key in this instance) is having fun doesn’t mean it is ok. And that people actually need to notice (in this case John key) when someone is uncomfortable from their (in this case john Key) actions.

                  How John Key behaved is happening every day all over this country. To someone or someones.

                  Its’s not about politicians per se (to me) it is about how we treat each other as fellow humans.

                  I do this every day, in my work and in my life. When the PM behaves this way, giving many that you describe an excuse to continue to behave as they do, then a step backward is taken. I make my changes one interaction at a time.

                  There are 3 right leaning men in my family who absolutely understand and accept my view today where they didn’t 20 years ago. Most people behave ignorantly because they don’t know they are behaving ignorantly. That’s understandable, we can’t know what we don’t know. BUT once someone knows their behaviour is not liked, wanted or warranted and they continue they have no more excuses. In this case John Key did it again after he had been very clearly told not to.

                  If he were not our Prime Minister he would not be able to have such a negative impact on our society in terms of the acceptance of that behaviour. For THAT reason I focus on his behaviour and attempt to help others see how it might not only be unbecoming but against the law and in breach of the Cabinet Manual.

                • Not many right leaning men would though and that is your problem.

                  It certainly is a problem that not many right-leaning men see harrassing service staff as something other than a joke, but it’s not Tracey’s problem – it’s a problem for all of us who aren’t right-leaning men.

            • Tracey 5.1.2.1.1.2

              is “rape culture” the new “PC” or “feminist” designed to substitute for an argument and used as a slur. I didn’t even mention the phrase in my post or any about this issue. I did mention respect. Do the left leaning women you speak to have no time for respect as well, and find it futile and counter productive?

              • Gosman

                Most of the people I have discussed this with think John Key acted massively inappropriately and was most definately out of line. They don’t think this is necessarily reflective of a wider cultural issue which some people have made the case for.

                • Tracey

                  “They don’t think this is necessarily reflective of a wider cultural issue which some people have made the case for.”

                  If they think, as you are presenting, that behaviours like this happen in isolation and come from nowhere and impact no one else, then we all have more work to do, don’t we.

                • humPrac

                  Gosman, you’re not very young are you?
                  Being a young person myself, I can assure you that there has been a rape culture growing in its reach and in its intensity, AT LEAST, in the last 15 years.

                  • Gosman

                    I call bollocks on that. There is far more support for, and intolerance of negative behaviour towards, women than 15 years ago. However you may well be right. What evidence do you have to support your claim?

                    • Pascals bookie

                      Well, the Herald thinks this poll shows no one cares that the PM thinks it’s good natured joking to repeatedly go into a woman’s workplace and pull her hair.

                      So there’s that.

                    • Gosman

                      Are you stating that The Herald would not have made such a statement 15 years ago?

                    • Pascals bookie

                      Nope. I’m saying that you can quibble about what people say all you like, but the end of it is that many people, now, don’t really give a fuck if a woman feels bad about a powerful man’s jokes at her expense.

                      They don’t give a shit if he jokes by touching her when she doesn’t want to be touched, and they don’t give a fuck if he then lies about what she said when he made an apology. They will happily assume she was being ‘political’, while his lies about what she said were not political.

                      They will simply not care enough to check what she actually had to say, and so not care to find out that the defences of the PMs status rolled out by pundits contradict what she has maintained all along.

                      Why don’t they care to do these things? Because they don’t care enough about a PM repeatedly walking into a woman’s work place and pulling her hair to be bothered checking.

                      Which tells me how of a fuck they give about the behaviour they say they think is inappropriate. Not many fucks.

                    • mickysavage

                      So things are better. We are no longer in the caveman stage we are now getting to the medieval stage. All rejoice!

            • Sabine 5.1.2.1.1.3

              rape culture for those that done have to live it by virtue of essentially not being a women and hence are for the most part not rape bait. (unless they are being raped of course, and yes dear Gosman it happens to men and boys, and they too don’t speak up for fear of being victimized again and again by people that would just not discuss such unpleasant things in polite company)

              so excuse me for a long post, but i wanted to give you a chance to read it first.

              The link is from here – and the original will have many many embedded links to provide evidence to the happenings discussed below. Sadly so,
              http://www.shakesville.com/2009/10/rape-culture-101.html
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              Rape culture is encouraging male sexual aggression. Rape culture is regarding violence as sexy and sexuality as violent. Rape culture is treating rape as a compliment, as the unbridled passion stirred in a healthy man by a beautiful woman, making irresistible the urge to rip open her bodice or slam her against a wall, or a wrought-iron fence, or a car hood,

              or pull her by her hair,

              or shove her onto a bed, or any one of a million other images of fight-fucking in movies and television shows and on the covers of romance novels that convey violent urges are inextricably linked with (straight) sexuality.

              Rape culture is treating straight sexuality as the norm. Rape culture is lumping queer sexuality into nonconsensual sexual practices like pedophilia and bestiality. Rape culture is privileging heterosexuality because ubiquitous imagery of two adults of the same-sex engaging in egalitarian partnerships without gender-based dominance and submission undermines (erroneous) biological rationales for the rape culture’s existence.

              Rape culture is rape being used as a weapon, a tool of war and genocide and oppression. Rape culture is rape being used as a corrective to “cure” queer women. Rape culture is a militarized culture and “the natural product of all wars, everywhere, at all times, in all forms.”

              Rape culture is 1 in 33 men being sexually assaulted in their lifetimes.
              Rape culture is encouraging men to use the language of rape to establish dominance over one another (“I’ll make you my bitch”). Rape culture is making rape a ubiquitous part of male-exclusive bonding. Rape culture is ignoring the cavernous need for men’s prison reform in part because the threat of being raped in prison is considered an acceptable deterrent to committing crime, and the threat only works if actual men are actually being raped.

              Rape culture is 1 in 6 women being sexually assaulted in their lifetimes. Rape culture is not even talking about the reality that many women are sexually assaulted multiple times in their lives. Rape culture is the way in which the constant threat of sexual assault affects women’s daily movements.
              Rape culture is telling girls and women to be careful about what you wear, how you wear it, how you carry yourself, where you walk, when you walk there, with whom you walk, whom you trust, what you do, where you do it, with whom you do it, what you drink, how much you drink, whether you make eye contact, if you’re alone, if you’re with a stranger, if you’re in a group, if you’re in a group of strangers, if it’s dark, if the area is unfamiliar, if you’re carrying something, how you carry it, what kind of shoes you’re wearing in case you have to run, what kind of purse you carry, what jewelry you wear, what time it is, what street it is, what environment it is, how many people you sleep with, what kind of people you sleep with, who your friends are, to whom you give your number, who’s around when the delivery guy comes, to get an apartment where you can see who’s at the door before they can see you, to check before you open the door to the delivery guy, to own a dog or a dog-sound-making machine, to get a roommate, to take self-defense, to always be alert always pay attention always watch your back always be aware of your surroundings and never let your guard down for a moment lest you be sexually assaulted and if you are and didn’t follow all the rules it’s your fault.

              Rape culture is victim-blaming.
              Rape culture is a judge blaming a child for her own rape. Rape culture is a minister blaming his child victims. Rape culture is accusing a child of enjoying being held hostage, raped, and tortured. Rape culture is spending enormous amounts of time finding any reason at all that a victim can be blamed for hir own rape.

              Rape culture is judges banning the use of the word rape in the courtroom. Rape culture is the media using euphemisms for sexual assault. Rape culture is stories about rape being featured in the Odd News.

              Rape culture is tasking victims with the burden of rape prevention.
              Rape culture is encouraging women to take self-defense as though that is the only solution required to preventing rape.
              Rape culture is admonishing women to “learn common sense” or “be more responsible” or “be aware of barroom risks” or “avoid these places” or “don’t dress this way,” and failing to admonish men to not rape.

              Rape culture is “nothing” being the most frequent answer to a question about what people have been formally taught about rape.

              Rape culture is boys under 10 years old knowing how to rape.

              Rape culture is the idea that only certain people rape—and only certain people get raped.
              Rape culture is ignoring that the thing about rapists is that they rape people. They rape people who are strong and people who are weak, people who are smart and people who are dumb, people who fight back and people who submit just to get it over with, people who are sluts and people who are prudes, people who rich and people who are poor, people who are tall and people who are short, people who are fat and people who are thin, people who are blind and people who are sighted, people who are deaf and people who can hear, people of every race and shape and size and ability and circumstance.

              Rape culture is the narrative that sex workers can’t be raped. Rape culture is the assertion that wives can’t be raped. Rape culture is the contention that only nice girls can be raped.

              Rape culture is refusing to acknowledge that the only thing that the victim of every rapist shares in common is bad fucking luck.
              Rape culture is refusing to acknowledge that the only thing a person can do to avoid being raped is never be in the same room as a rapist. Rape culture is avoiding talking about what an absurdly unreasonable expectation that is, since rapists don’t announce themselves or wear signs or glow purple.

              Rape culture is people meant to protect you raping you instead—like parents, teachers, doctors, ministers, cops, soldiers, self-defense instructors.

              Rape culture is a serial rapist being appointed to a federal panel that makes decisions regarding women’s health.

              Rape culture is a ruling that says women cannot withdraw consent once sex commences.

              Rape culture is a collective understanding about classifications of rapists: The “normal” rapist (whose crime is most likely to be dismissed with a “boys will be boys” sort of jocular apologia) is the man who forces himself on attractive women, women his age in fine health and form, whose crime is disturbingly understandable to his male defenders.
              The “real sickos” are the men who go after children, old ladies, the disabled, accident victims languishing in comas—the sort of people who can’t fight back, whose rape is difficult to imagine as titillating, unlike the rape of “pretty girls,” so easily cast in a fight-fuck fantasy of squealing and squirming and eventual relenting to the “flattery” of being raped.

              Rape culture is the insistence on trying to distinguish between different kinds of rape via the use of terms like “gray rape” or “date rape.”

              Rape culture is pervasive narratives about rape that exist despite evidence to the contrary. Rape culture is pervasive imagery of stranger rape, even though women are three times more likely to be raped by someone they know than a stranger, and nine times more likely to be raped in their home, the home of someone they know, or anywhere else than being raped on the street, making what is commonly referred to as “date rape” by far the most prevalent type of rape. Rape culture is pervasive insistence that false reports are common, although they are less common (1.6%) than false reports of auto theft (2.6%). Rape culture is pervasive claims that women make rape accusations willy-nilly, when 61% of rapes remain unreported.

              Rape culture is the pervasive narrative that there is a “typical” way to behave after being raped, instead of the acknowledgment that responses to rape are as varied as its victims, that, immediately following a rape, some women go into shock; some are lucid; some are angry; some are ashamed; some are stoic; some are erratic; some want to report it; some don’t; some will act out; some will crawl inside themselves; some will have healthy sex lives; some never will again.

              Rape culture is the pervasive narrative that a rape victim who reports hir rape is readily believed and well-supported, instead of acknowledging that reporting a rape is a huge personal investment, a difficult process that can be embarrassing, shameful, hurtful, frustrating, and too often unfulfilling. Rape culture is ignoring that there is very little incentive to report a rape; it’s a terrible experience with a small likelihood of seeing justice served.

              Rape culture is hospitals that won’t do rape kits, disbelieving law enforcement, unmotivated prosecutors, hostile judges, victim-blaming juries, and paltry sentencing.

              Rape culture is the fact that higher incidents of rape tend to correlate with lower conviction rates.

              Rape culture is silence around rape in the national discourse, and in rape victims’ homes. Rape culture is treating surviving rape as something of which to be ashamed. Rape culture is families torn apart because of rape allegations that are disbelieved or ignored or sunk to the bottom of a deep, dark sea in an iron vault of secrecy and silence.

              Rape culture is the objectification of women, which is part of a dehumanizing process that renders consent irrelevant. Rape culture is treating women’s bodies like public property. Rape culture is street harassment and groping on public transportation and equating raped women’s bodies to a man walking around with valuables hanging out of his pockets. Rape culture is most men being so far removed from the threat of rape that invoking property theft is evidently the closest thing many of them can imagine to being forcibly subjected to a sexual assault.

              Rape culture is treating 13-year-old girls like trophies for men regarded as great artists.

              Rape culture is ignoring the way in which professional environments that treat sexual access to female subordinates as entitlements of successful men can be coercive and compromise enthusiastic consent.

              Rape culture is a convicted rapist getting a standing ovation at Cannes, a cameo in a hit movie, and a career resurgence in which he can joke about how he hates seeing people get hurt.

              Rape culture is when running dogfights is said to elicit more outrage than raping a woman would.

              Rape culture is blurred lines between persistence and coercion. Rape culture is treating diminished capacity to consent as the natural path to sexual activity.

              Rape culture is pretending that non-physical sexual assaults, like peeping tomming, is totally unrelated to brutal and physical sexual assaults, rather than viewing them on a continuum of sexual assault.

              Rape culture is diminishing the gravity of any sexual assault, attempted sexual assault, or culture of actual or potential coercion in any way.

              Rape culture is using the word “rape” to describe something that has been done to you other than a forced or coerced sex act. Rape culture is saying things like “That ATM raped me with a huge fee” or “The IRS raped me on my taxes.”

              Rape culture is rape being used as entertainment, in movies and television shows and books and in video games.

              Rape culture is television shows and movies leaving rape out of situations where it would be a present and significant threat in real life.

              Rape culture is Amazon offering to locate “rape” products for you.

              Rape culture is rape jokes. Rape culture is rape jokes on t-shirts, rape jokes in college newspapers, rape jokes in soldiers’ home videos, rape jokes on the radio, rape jokes on news broadcasts, rape jokes in magazines, rape jokes in viral videos, rape jokes in promotions for children’s movies, rape jokes on Page Six (and again!), rape jokes on the funny pages, rape jokes on TV shows, rape jokes on the campaign trail, rape jokes on Halloween, rape jokes in online content by famous people, rape jokes in online content by non-famous people, rape jokes in headlines, rape jokes onstage at clubs, rape jokes in politics, rape jokes in one-woman shows, rape jokes in print campaigns, rape jokes in movies, rape jokes in cartoons, rape jokes in nightclubs, rape jokes on MTV, rape jokes on late-night chat shows, rape jokes in tattoos, rape jokes in stand-up comedy, rape jokes on websites, rape jokes at awards shows, rape jokes in online contests, rape jokes in movie trailers, rape jokes on the sides of buses, rape jokes on cultural institutions…

              Rape culture is people objecting to the detritus of the rape culture being called oversensitive, rather than people who perpetuate the rape culture being regarded as not sensitive enough.

              Rape culture is the myriad ways in which rape is tacitly and overtly abetted and encouraged having saturated every corner of our culture so thoroughly that people can’t easily wrap their heads around what the rape culture actually is.

              That’s hardly everything. It’s merely the tip of an unfathomable iceberg.

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              And yes, i don’t want my country and myself represented by a man who can not hold his hands to himself, who is so badly behaved as to harrass and stalk a women at her workplace, knowing full well that no one will do anything to help her because that man happens to be the prime minister of new Zealand.
              I would like to be able to travel abroad and not have to endure endless hours of jokes about hair pulling, pony tails and babies pig tails because it appears that our New Zealand Prime Minister is an even bigger creep then theirs.

              Sadly, this is obviously not going to happen, but no matter what you say Gosman, your Prime Minister is an abusive sexually deviant kind of man that I would never ever let alone with girls that a. look very young (the waitress does look like a teenager) or with girls that are clearly below 5 years of age. Who knows when the pulling of hair is not enough anymore. It is clear hat he has got no boundaries and common decency.

              • Gosman

                According to that logic Rugby is perpetuating the “Rape culture” because it glorifies violence. Try selling that to middle New Zealand (and much of the Working class) and see where it gets you.

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  🙄

                  First chop your logic to a fine paste.
                  Add red herring.

                  Spin furiously.

                • LilaR

                  Irrespective of what the mythical ‘middle NZ’ might think, rugby definitely is contributing to rape culture by glorifying violence. Indeed, more than one rugby player, and at least one commentator (Tony Veitch) have committed violence against women, including at least one instance of rape of a drunken girl. I can’t recall specific names, but they’ll be there if you look, and I suspect they’re only the tip of a very large iceberg.

              • ropata

                Rape is a very specific crime and using that word to condemn an entire culture is a twisted perspective that sees the worst in people.

                This is OTT undirected moral scolding and a total vote loser.

                Key is a dickwad of the highest order but to indulge in accusations of “abusive sexual deviant” is just baseless fantasy.

        • Tracey 5.1.2.2

          “Conduct of Ministers

          2.52 A Minister of the Crown, while holding a ministerial warrant, acts in a number of different capacities:

          in a ministerial capacity, making decisions, and determining and promoting policy within particular portfolios;
          in a political capacity as a member of Parliament, representing a constituency or particular community of interest;
          in a personal capacity.

          2.53 In all these roles and at all times, Ministers are expected to act lawfully and to behave in a way that upholds, and is seen to uphold, the highest ethical standards. Ultimately, Ministers are accountable to the Prime Minister for their behaviour.

          2.54 Holding ministerial office is regarded as a full-time occupation and is remunerated as such. ” Cabinet Manual

    • Tracey 5.2

      Blah blah blah… win at all costs…. blah blah blah how much money I make means the country is doing well… blah blah blah, polls help me to know which side to be on and who is winning… blah bah blah…

      The actual point that is lost in all this is not the one you have just made but the one many others are making about attitudes to women and children.

    • vto 5.3

      “An example of this is trying to claim that this case should automatically lead to John Key’s resignation not just from his role as Prime Minister but from Parliament as has been made by umerous people on the left including on this very blog. That is likely to be seen by a significant section of the electorate as just being excessive and politically vindictive”

      Aaron Gilmore stood down for harassing waiting staff

      Roger Sutton stood down for harassing staff

      nothing excessive, nothing vindictive, just plain old common sense rules as old as the hills.

      it is the right wing that is excessive in its apologising for unacceptable behaviour.

    • emergency mike 5.4

      Yeah ‘resign’ is big word to throw around.

      He only repeatedly pulled a waitess’ hair over a period of months until she started crying. It’s not like he forgot about signing a form letter 11 years ago.

  6. Tracey 6

    “Sean Plunkett, Mike Hosking”

    Extreme right-wing activists

    “and Bob Jones”

    Soon to be Octanagerian who is past his use by date and represents the views of some white elderly men aout other men and essentially that women just don’t seem to get it.

  7. lprent 7

    Snap.

    The writer fails to understand that polling change is rarely immediate but usually involves the gradual seeping of support as people tire of the country’s leadership and as mistake builds on top of mistake.

    It gets worse than that. It is unlikely that there were more than 10-20% of the 750 sampled after Wednesday evening. By the look of it, Digipoll uses both regional sampling and weighting in their polling. So they would have been only cleaning up their sample in the latter part of the week before the long weekend.

    • Tracey 7.1

      still time for gosman and others to feed the masses the meme….

    • mickysavage 7.2

      Yep. Meanwhile RNZ repeated the Herald’s framing of the poll today. And there will be people who are influenced by this. If media person A says there is nothing to it some people will think there is nothing to it. And the next time the pollsters ring they will say there is nothing to it.

      The media should stick to reporting facts and not trying to tell us what opinions to hold.

  8. Tracey 8

    John Key said he would hold his Ministers to higher standards than Labour did…

    He criticised Clark thusly in 2008

    “Remember that it was Helen Clark who promised higher standards of ministerial accountability. Yet here we have confessions from not one, but two Cabinet Ministers that they knew about these allegations and did nothing. Labour was more interested in avoiding a scandal than it was in doing what’s right. ”

    So, here is the roll call under the last Labour Government:

    ” June 28, 2000

    – Dover Samuels

    Sacked from the Maori Affairs portfolio by Prime Minister Helen Clark, who said he could not be effective while “allegations, controversy and public debate swirl around him”. Mr Samuels, who faced allegations of sexual misconduct, had refused to resign. A police investigation ended without charges being laid and in August 2002 Mr Samuels was made a minister outside Cabinet.

    October 31, 2000

    – Ruth Dyson.

    Resigned from Cabinet after failing a breath test while driving home from the Beehive in October 2000. She was fined $600, lost her licence for six months, and returned to Cabinet in June 2001.

    February 23, 2001

    – Marian Hobbs and Phillida Bunkle (Alliance)

    Resigned from ministerial positions following investigations into claiming out-of-town allowances while enrolled on the Wellington Central electoral roll. Ms Hobbs came back into Cabinet at the end of the investigation. Ms Bunkle, an Alliance minister outside Cabinet, never regained her job.

    July 23, 2003

    – Harry Duynhoven.

    Had his ministerial powers temporarily suspended after inadvertently breaking electoral law by renewing his Dutch citizenship. Parliament passed legislation to ensure that Mr Duynhoven did not have to quit as an MP. He retains his ministerial roles.

    February 20, 2004

    – Lianne Dalziel.

    Forced to resign from Cabinet when she misled NZPA over whether she knew who leaked documents about a controversial immigration case to the media. Later returned to Cabinet and still serves as a minister.

    November 4, 2004

    – John Tamihere

    Resigned his portfolios after standing down on October 15 following reports that he accepted a $195,000 payment when he left the Waipareira Trust in 1999 to become an MP. He had told voters he would not take such a payment. Mr Tamihere was cleared by the Serious Fraud Office, but harshly criticised his colleagues and never returned to Cabinet.

    May 16, 2005

    – David Benson-Pope.

    Stood down as associate education minister after TV3 News reported five former students of Dunedin’s Bayfield High School had come forward to back allegations that as a teacher he tied a boy’s hands together and jammed a tennis ball into his mouth, and once smacked a pupil with the back of his hand, making his nose bleed.

    Police said there was conflicting evidence and decided it was not in the public interest to lay charges. Mr Benson-Pope returned to his job despite fierce criticism from the Opposition over the allegations and how his story had changed as he defended them.
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    October 19, 2005

    – Taito Phillip Field

    Before the 2005 election Mr Field faced allegations he took bribes and used illegal workers to work on his homes in exchange for visa assistance.

    His appointments lapsed on October 19, following the election, and he was never reinstated to Cabinet. Police took up the case and he was thrown out of Labour after he threatened to stand as an independent. Now facing corruption charges.

    March 20, 2006

    – David Parker.

    He resigns as Attorney-General as the Companies Office launches an investigation into whether he filed proper returns in relation to a company. A day later he resigns his transport and energy portfolios. However the Companies Office clears him of doing anything wrong and he is later reinstated as energy, climate change and land information minister.

    July 27, 2007

    – David Benson-Pope.

    Resigned from Cabinet after his role in the removal of Madeleine Setchell from her job as Environment Ministry communications manager was questioned. Miss Clark told reporters Mr Benson-Pope had been misleading in what he had said about his involvement.

    August 29, 2008

    – Winston Peters.

    Winston Peters stands down as Foreign Affairs, Racing and Associate Senior Citizens Minister after the Serious Fraud Office launches an investigation into undeclared donations to NZ First. Prime Minister Helen Clark becomes acting minister in those portfolios. “

    • Tracey 8.1

      National

      Judith Collins “resigned”

      conflicts of interest
      allegations of undermining SFO Director August 2014

      Maurice Williamson May 2014 “resigned”

      he contacted a top ranking police officer after a wealthy businessman with close ties to him was arrested on domestic violence charges.

      Aaron Gilmore “resigned”
      National Party president Peter Goodfellow says the party and board are “extremely disappointed in Mr Gilmore’s behaviour”.

      The comment came after Prime Minister John Key said he couldn’t “reconcile” Aaron Gilmore’s text messages with his version of events of a boozy dinner and has signalled he should stand down.

      Key said he couldn’t “make him [Gilmore] gone” but he had contacted party president Peter Goodfellow this morning.

      “I find them difficult to reconcile with the version of events that Mr Gilmore gave my office,” said Key.

      “I said at the time if I found it difficult to reconcile those events I’ll treat this as a serious matter.”
      2013

      Kate Wilkinson and Phil Heatley
      “They have done nothing wrong . . . ” J Key 2013

      Nick Smith, 2012: Resigned after he came under pressure for writing a reference letter for his friend Bronwyn Pullar, who was seeking help with her ACC case. His letter was written on ACC letterhead and used to advance Pullar’s claim.

      Phil Heatley, 2010: Resigned from housing and fisheries portfolios after misspending taxpayers’ money. He was reinstated a month later after the Auditor-General’s inquiry found that while he spent $1402 wrongly, he did not intentionally break the rules.

      Pansy Wong, 2010: Prime Minister John Key said he would have sacked the Ethnic Affairs Minister if she hadn’t handed in her resignation. Wong came under fire after she used her travel entitlement to pay for parts of her husband’s trip to China in late 2008, where he conducted private business.

      Richard Worth, 2009: Resigned as Internal Affairs Minister and from other portfolios after it was alleged he offered a woman a job in return for romantic favours. Police investigated Worth after the woman laid a complaint, but no charges were laid.

  9. Maui 9

    Down right delusional from this freakn rag. Glucina probably writes the editorials.

  10. JanMeyer 10

    Down at the local pub and in the streets I frequent (ok immediate bias) the word is that the PM stuffed up and has made a dick of himself, and has rightly ‘fessed up and apologised. The claims of “sexual harrassment” or “creepiness” however certainly don’t resonant. It’s about proportionality of response, and the left is (yet again with its arch nemisis John Key) in danger of “over egging” its response. I predict the polls will in general terms reflect this approach of the “man or woman in the street” and be unlikely to punish National or the PM harshly.

    • Tracey 10.1

      You are probably right. However my yardstick isnt the polls. There are behaviours I have seen and know affect young women to their detriment, and I will continue to draw attention to them and the consequences. So, to that extent I shall not be silenced.

      • Gosman 10.1.1

        That is your choice. Just be aware that it is likely to mean in the short to medium term that any potential gain may well be wasted as a result of people thinking people like you are over hyping the matter.

      • JanMeyer 10.1.2

        Absoutely fair enough, but if I were a strategist for the Labour Party I would be acutely concerned with the views of the “man or woman in the street”.

        • Tracey 10.1.2.1

          Good on ya. I am not a strategist for the LP, or even a member and haven’t voted for them since early-mid 2000.

      • Incognito 10.1.3

        ”Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.”

        Augustine of Hippo

    • Gosman 10.2

      Exactly my point JanMeyer. Fortunately for the right many on the left can’t let this go and are obsessed with taking this to a level which many people just regard as politically motivated rather than anything sincere. That is where the blowback comes in. No amount of demanding people see things the way they see it is going to alter that. It is interesting to watch those people do that though. It is as if they can’t help themselves.

    • NZSage 10.3

      Umm.. we obvioulsy don’t go to the same pubs and I predict you will have egg on your face.

    • lprent 10.4

      That is probably going to be the approach through much of NZ. However overall effects are not what loses governments elections.

      What you have to look at are specific groups of people. In this case the group that is crucial is quite specific.

      The likely effect amongst urban working women, from what I have seen over recent days in the supermarkets and at the odd conversation, is somewhat more extreme and reactive than the pubs and streets of provincial NZ.

      You have to remember that the difference between a Helen Clark government and a John Key government in 2008 was in that specific demographic. They are the group that Key appealed to. From what I can see that don’t like his behaviour one little bit. We’ll know more after we geta few more polls.

      But the difference between a National-led government and Labour-led government has been incredibly fine for the last couple of elections and getting finer. Losing votes from such a crucial demographic is going to hurt National. Because National has gutted their right wing support parties, I don’t think that they will go to them.

      I suspect that makes it bye bye Key. It maybe makes it bye-bye National.

  11. kiwigunner 11

    If it is true that the general public don’t really care much about this then shame on them.

    I am stuck thinking that this occurring in most workplaces would lead to dismissal of the perpetrator. Maybe not if it happened once when a warning would be issued but the second time almost certainly in a right thinking world this would simply not be acceptable.

    I don’t know how anyone can think otherwise and this being the case do anything but expect Key to be subject to similar actions.

    Its simple really and only made complex by the spin.

  12. emergency mike 12

    “They were so quick to accuse him of bullying, harassment, physical abuse and worse, that fair-minded people came to his defence. He was guilty of being a bit goofy, they argued, nothing worse. But to tug someone’s hair repeatedly sounds worse. It sounds odd.”

    Lol what? We shouldn’t say that he tugged her hair repeatedly because it ‘sounds odd’? Well it is odd but that is literally exactly what he did. Who is more odd, the person who repeatedly tugs hair, or the person who describes repeated hair tugging as repeated hair tugging? Yes of course, ‘being a bit goofy’ is much more ‘fair-minded’.

    Bullying, harassment, physical abuse? Oh what were we thinking throwing those words around about Honest John? Never mind that anyone with a definition of those word and a copy of Amanda Bailey’s initial statement can see that they are quite easily, plainly applicable. No that just doesn’t matter. ‘Being a bit goofy’ was the way to go. That just sounds so much nicer. Less odd.

    I believe this applies also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D6bx8j4d-Y

    • emergency mike 12.1

      Hmm I think I misread the Herald quote slightly. It’s not saying we should call it ‘being a bit goofy’ instead of bullying, harassment, or physical abuse, it’s saying we should stick to ‘repeatedly tugging her hair until she cried.’

      But then my fundamental objection still stands, because harassment is simply what it was. The problem with declining to use those words is that it never gets to the seriousness of the incident. It wasn’t just odd, it was illegal. Methinks that’s what is at work here – the illegality is what it being minimized. John Key likes to say, when he is questioned about the morality of his actions, that he “operates within the law”. He seems to be saying that he can do whatever he likes as long as it’s within the law, and morality is just some funny not real thing that he doesn’t need to worry about. And there’s also a ‘no one can do anything to stop me anyway so whatever’ dimension too. I think that for all the RW moaning about OTT comments from lefties about this, exposing himself to serious criminal charges is not John Key’s style, and the spin strategy has quickly converged towards reflecting that.

      Also, one of the reasons that we don’t just stick to ‘repeatedly tugging her hair until she cried’ as per the recommendation of some of our oh so concerned right wing commentators, is that it bloody well doesn’t even need to be said that our PM pulling a waitress’ hair is not ok. It’s completely bizarre that anyone would feel that this position needs to be stated at all. That’s why some of us have quickly moved on to discussing the implications. There’s more to be said here than ‘he really shouldn’t have done that.’

      It seems that the spin crew working on this would rather we simply state the fact of what has happened, than raise any questions what it might say about a PM whose grasp of what is acceptable touching behaviour would get him in trouble in primary school. Or that we have a PM who doesn’t know what sexual harassment, or a bullying power imbalance looks like, (hint: “I thought it was just fun and games” is what they all say, and most of them even believe it).

      You can disagree with someone’s opinion, but to criticize someone for choosing to state their opinion at all? It’s just another kind of ad hom. A way to minimize and dodge that opinion.

  13. Observer (Tokoroa) 13

    Is it true that John Key wanting pleasures, bullied the Waitress?
    is it true that he tugged and played with her hair repeatedly?
    Is it true that he plays with the hair of little girls on the streets (as per the videos we have seen) ?

    No matter what the Herald misfits cover up and paper over …. John key is a dangerous weirdo and is seen so by by all the Press around the world.

    I think they also laugh bitterly at him for giving the harassed waitress two bottles of homemade piss to make up. Such is the man. Such will the man always be.

  14. Sable 14

    I find it hard to tell the difference between journalism and propaganda in the MSM…..

  15. Observer (Tokoroa) 15

    @ Sable

    You are right.

    The journos are recruited entirely for their political affiliation. A genuine reporter is unlikely to be found in mainstream media.

    The good thing is … msm is struggling in it’s own offal and becoming sheer fantasy.

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A referendum on bigotry
    The End of Life Choice Bill passed its third reading last night, 69 - 51. Thanks to a compromise with NZ First - which looks to have been necessary on the final numbers - the commencement of the bill will be subject to a referendum. Given the ugliness of the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why municipal waste-to-energy incineration is not the answer to NZ’s plastic waste crisis
    Trisia Farrelly, Massey University New Zealand is ranked the third-most-wasteful country in the OECD. New Zealanders produce five times the global daily average of waste per person – and they are getting more wasteful, producing 35% more than a decade ago. These statistics are likely to get worse following China’s ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Political parties and GMOs: we all need to move on
    Recently more than 150 post-graduate students and young scientists presented an open letter to the Green Party via The Spinoff, encouraging them to reconsider their position on genetic modification. Their target is tackling climate change issues.[1] Can any party continue to be dismissive about genetic modification (GM) contributing to ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    1 week ago
  • Class, Identity Politics and Transgender Ideology
    by Deirdre O’Neill Under Thatcher and then Blair and continuing up until our contemporary moment, the working class has seen its culture slowly and progressively destroyed. The change from an industrial society to a service society produced a marked shift in focus from the working class as the backbone of ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Irony
    Since 2013, the Australian government has detained refugees without trial in Pacific gulags, where they are abused, tortured, and driven to suicide. The policy is not just an abuse of human rights and possible crime against humanity; it has also had a corrosive effect on the states Australia uses as ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An age of protest.
    It seems fair to say that we currently live in a problematic political moment in world history. Democracies are in decline and dictatorships are on the rise. Primordial, sectarian and post-modern divisions have re-emerged, are on the rise or have been accentuated by political evolutions of the moment such as ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Another captured agency
    Last month, Greenpeace head Russel Norman surrendered his speaking slot at an EPA conference to student climate activist Sorcha Carr, who told the EPA exactly what she thought of them. It was a bold move, which confronted both regulators and polluters (or, as the EPA calls them, "stakeholders") with the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • NZ First’s dodgy loans
    The core principle supposedly underlying New Zealand's electoral finance regime is transparency: parties can accept large donations from rich people wanting to buy policy, but only if they tell the public they've been bought. Most parties abide by this, so we know that TOP was wholly-owned by Gareth Morgan, and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: The choice on End of Life Choice
    Today is a Member's Day, probably the second-to-last one of the year, and its a big one, with the Third Reading of David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill. last Member's Day it was reported back from committee, after MPs voted narrowly to make it subject to a (rules TBA) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • How growth in population and consumption drives planetary change
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz The growth of the human population over the last 70 ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • The disappearing Women …
    by The Council of Disobedient Women In her excellent oral submission to the Abortion reform select committee on 31st October on behalf of Otago University’s Department of Public Health, historian and public health researcher Hera Cook stated: “We would ask that the committee not use the term ‘pregnant persons’ and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • “A Passage to India”: enduring art in changing times
    by Don Franks In 1957, E M Forster wrote, of his greatest work: “The India described in ‘A Passage to India’ no longer exists either politically or socially. Change had begun even at the time the book was published ( 1924) and during the following quarter of a century it ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Contemptuous
    The Referendums Framework Bill was due back from select committee today. But there's no report on it. Instead, the bill has been bounced back to the House under Standing order 29593) because the Committee didn't bother to produce one. They probably tried. But given the membership of the committee (which ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Zero Carbon: It’s not just a good idea, it’s the law
    Two years into New Zealand’s Labour-led government, the long-delayed Zero Carbon Bill became law on 7 November. Passed essentially unanimously, the lengthy public debates and political manoeuvring faded away until the final passage was even anticlimactic: Flipping through the @nzstuff @DomPost I was starting to wonder if I’d dreamt ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: What happens next?
    Now the Zero Carbon Bill is law, what's next? Obviously, the ETS changes currently before select committee are going to be the next battleground. But we're also going to get a good idea of where we're going, and if the progress the Zero Carbon Act promises is good enough, during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate change will fuel bush fires
    Grant Pearce The effects of the current Australian bushfires in New South Wales and Queensland (and also again in California) are devastating and far-reaching. To date, the fires have resulted in several lives being lost and many homes and properties destroyed. Here in New Zealand, the impacts have been only ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Participation rates
    A passing comment in a post the other day about the labour force participation rates of older people prompted me to pull down the fuller data and see what we could see about various participation rates over the decades since the HLFS began in 1986.   As it happens, the ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Reddell
    1 week ago
  • Not So Much “OK Boomer” As “OK Ruling Class”.
    Distract And Divert: The rise of what we have come to call “Identity Politics” represents the ideological manifestation of the ruling class’s objective need to destroy class politics, and of the middle-class’s subjective need to justify their participation in the process.THE RELIEF of the ruling class can only be imagined. ...
    1 week ago
  • Asking for it …
    "I saw a newspaper picture,From the political campaignA woman was kissing a child,Who was obviously in pain.She spills with compassion,As that young child'sFace in her hands she gripsCan you imagine all that greed and avariceComing down on that child's lips?" ...
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand’s Poor Pandemic Preparedness According to the Global Health Security Index
    Dr Matt Boyd, Prof Michael Baker, Prof Nick Wilson The Global Health Security Index which considers pandemic threats has just been published. Unfortunately, NZ scores approximately half marks (54/100), coming in 35th in the world rankings – far behind Australia. This poor result suggests that the NZ Government needs to ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Thank Winston
    The Zero Carbon Act is inadequate, with a weak methane target designed to give farmers a free ride. But it turns out it could have been worse: Climate Change Minister James Shaw was so desperate to get National on board, he wanted to gut that target, and leave it in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Illicit markets and Bali Booze
    The Herald reprints an Australian story on a couple of tragic deaths in Bali from drinking cocktails that had methanol in them.  The story argues that methanol is likely the result of home distillation. But what the young tourists were experiencing was far from a hangover. They’d consumed a toxic cocktail ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    2 weeks ago
  • This is not what armed police are for
    Last month, the police announced a trial of specialist roaming armed units, which would drive round (poor, brown) areas in armoured SUVs, armed to the teeth. When they announced the trial, they told us it was about having armed police "ready to attend major incidents at any time if needed". ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Spain’s failed electoral gamble
    Spain went to the polls today in the second elections this year, after the Socialists (who had come to power in a confidence vote, then gone to the polls in April) rejected the offer of a coalition with the left-wing PoDemos, and instead decided to gamble n a better outcome ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The astroturf party
    National has finally rolled out its "BlueGreen" astroturf party, fronted by an array of former nats and people who were dumped by the Greens for not being Green enough. Its initial pitch is described by Stuff as "very business-friendly", and its priorities are what you'd expect: conservation, predator-free funding, a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • How to cheat at university
    A couple of days ago I attended (and spoke at) the University of Waikato’s “LearnFest” event. There were lots of talks and sessions on very diverse aspects of teaching, mostly at tertiary level. One was by Myra Williamson from Te Piringa Faculty of Law here at Waikato, on Contract Cheating ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    2 weeks ago
  • How NZ was put on world maps using a transit of Mercury
    There will be a transit of Mercury – the planet Mercury will pass across the face of the Sun – taking place at sunrise in New Zealand on Tuesday, 12th November. It was by observing such an event 250 years ago that James Cook and his scientist colleagues were able ...
    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    2 weeks ago
  • Georgina Beyer: We need to be able to talk without being offended
    Since becoming the world’s first openly transexual mayor and member of parliament, Georgina Beyer has been recognised as a trailblazer for trans rights. Daphna Whitmore talks with her about where she sees the current trans movement We start out talking about legislation the government put on hold that would have ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The anti-fluoride brigade won’t be erecting billboards about this study
    If FFNZ really put their faith in “Top Medical Journals” they would now be amending their billboards to recognise new research results. Image from FFNZ but updated to agree with the latest research. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Chosen To Rule? What Sort Of Christian Is Chris Luxon?
    National Messiah? Chris Luxon identifies himself as an evangelical Christian. If he is genuine in this self-characterisation, then he will take every opportunity his public office provides to proselytise on behalf of his faith. He will also feel obliged to bear witness against beliefs and practices he believes to be ...
    2 weeks ago
  • War of the worms
    I'm going to make a Reckless Prediction™ that the Tories have 'topped out' in the 'poll of polls' / Britain Elects multipoll tracker at about 38%, and in the next week we will start to see Labour creep up on them.In fact, we might just be seeing the start of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Marvelly shows us how to be a feminist without feminism
    by The Council of Disobedient Women Lizzie Marvelly: “I may have missed this… has @afterellen gone all terf-y? Or am I reading something incorrectly? “ https://twitter.com/LizzieMarvelly/status/1191840059105742849 After Ellen is a lesbian website that is unashamedly pro-lesbian, as you’d expect. So why is Ms Marvelly so bothered about lesbians having their ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Out of the past – Tories to revive racist laws from the 16th century
    Did you know there once was a time when it was illegal to be a gypsy (aka Romani) in Britain?That was between 1530, when the Egyptians Act was passed, and 1856, when it was repealed.Amongst other things, the act forbade the entry of 'Egyptians' into England, ordered those already there ...
    2 weeks ago
  • 1000 of these now
    Some days I sit and think, “what will I write…?” What do you say when you get to 1000 posts? Maybe you just start where you are, diverge to where this all began, then offer a collection of reader’s favourite posts, and a few of your own? (And throw in ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    2 weeks ago

  • New high tech traps will reduce the need for 1080 poison
    New Zealand First are celebrating the announcement of an investment of $3.5 million into five new trapping devices. These are a range of bait and trap devices, all designed to be left unattended for long periods of time. NZ First conservation spokesperson Jenny Marcroft says that this latest development will ...
    19 hours ago
  • Cowboy clampers will be stymied
    Clayton Mitchell, Spokesperson for Consumer Affairs The ‘wheel clamping’ Bill that will cap clamper fees to $100 passed its third reading in Parliament today. New Zealand First welcomes The Land Transport (Wheel Clamping) Amendment Bill to combat predatory wheel clamping behaviour in what is currently a largely unregulated business. Cowboy clampers are: gouging ...
    2 days ago
  • Mental Health Commission back on track
    Jenny Marcroft, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First welcomes the passage of the Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill through its first reading in Parliament. “Today’s progress takes serious action on the mental health and addiction crisis the country is facing,” says New Zealand First Health Spokesperson Jenny Marcroft. “The re-establishment ...
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand’s key assets are not for sale: national interest test delivered
    Mark Patterson, Spokesperson for Primary Industries Today the Government announced the delivery of the promise to protect New Zealand interests by applying a new National Interest Test to the sales of our most sensitive and high risk assets to overseas buyers. This further strengthening of the Overseas Investment Act will ...
    3 days ago
  • National interest test added to protect New Zealanders’ interests
    The Coalition Government is delivering on its promise to protect New Zealanders’ interests by applying a new national interest test to the sales of our most sensitive and high-risk assets to overseas buyers. Under current Overseas Investment Act (OIA) rules, assets such as ports and airports, telecommunications infrastructure, electricity and ...
    3 days ago
  • Electoral law breach allegations
    Rt Winston Peters, Leader of New Zealand First Allegations raised this morning by Stuff Limited / Fairfax concern a party matter but I am confident that New Zealand First has operated within electoral laws, now and for the last 27 years. Declarable donations were declared to the Electoral Commission. Our ...
    3 days ago
  • Wayne Brown hits back at critics: Ports of Auckland has to move
    The chairman of the Upper North Island Supply Chain Strategy (UNISCS) working group, Wayne Brown, has hit back at critics of his group’s recommendations to relocate the Ports of Auckland cargo operations to Whangarei’s deepwater port of Northport. The working group's recommendation to close Auckland waterfront to all but cruise ...
    4 days ago
  • Week That Was: Supporting our schools
    We're setting our young people up for success, investing in education around the country.  ...
    4 days ago
  • Kiwis to have their say on End of Life Choice
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First backs the public to decide on the End of Life Choice Bill via a referendum at the 2020 General Election. The Bill, with New Zealand First’s referendum provision incorporated, passed its final reading in Parliament this evening. New Zealand First Spokesperson for ...
    1 week ago
  • Addressing miscarriages of justice
    Darroch Ball, Spokesperson for Justice New Zealand First is proud that a key Coalition Agreement commitment which will provide for a more transparent and effective criminal justice system has been realised. Legislation to establish the Criminal Cases Review Commission, an independent body focused on identifying and responding to possible miscarriages of ...
    1 week ago
  • Week That Was: Historic action on climate change
    "Today we have made a choice that will leave a legacy... I hope that means that future generations will see that we, in New Zealand, were on the right side of history." - Jacinda Ardern, Third Reading of the Zero Carbon Bill ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Tax-free deployments for Kiwi troops
    Darroch Ball, New Zealand First List MP A Member’s bill has been proposed that would provide income tax exemptions for all New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel while on operational deployment overseas. The Income Tax (Exemption for Salary or Wages of NZDF Members on Active Deployment) Amendment Bill proposed by New Zealand First ...
    2 weeks ago
  • A balanced Zero Carbon Bill passed
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, New Zealand First Leader New Zealand First is proud to have brought common sense to the Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill, which passed its final reading in Parliament today. Party Leader Rt Hon Winston Peters says months of hard work went into negotiating a balanced ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Paramedics’ status to be recognised
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First has listened to calls to recognise paramedics as registered health professionals under the Health Practitioners’ Competence Assurance Act (the Act). Today, the Coalition Government announced plans for paramedics to be registered as health practitioners under the Act, and the establishment of a ...
    2 weeks ago

  • NZ economy in good shape amid global headwinds
    A major new report on the global economy shows New Zealand is in good shape amid increased global headwinds. The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) has just released its latest Economic Outlook. It shows the OECD group of economies is forecast to grow between 1.6% and 1.7% across ...
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    40 mins ago
  • Milestone of 1800 new Police officers
    The Coalition commitment to add 1800 new Police officers to frontline policing has been achieved with the graduation of 59 constables from the Royal New Zealand Police College today. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters say today’s graduation means 1825 new Police have been deployed all ...
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    13 hours ago
  • PM appoints business leaders to APEC Business Advisory Council
    Ensuring APEC work gets input from diverse New Zealand business and trade interests is behind three new appointments to the APEC Business Advisory Council (ABAC), Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says. Rachel Taulelei, Malcolm Johns and Toni Moyes have been appointed to represent New Zealand on the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) ...
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    16 hours ago
  • PM speech notes for Trans-Tasman Business Circle
    Nau mai, haere mai. Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā tatou katoa. Thank you for having me to speak today. To start, I’d like to acknowledge Sharron Lloyd, the General Manager of the Trans–Tasman Business Circle, the partners for this event Westpac’s  David McLean, and Derek McCormack from  AUT, and, of course ...
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    16 hours ago
  • Otago Regional Council given deadline for freshwater management plan
    A four-month investigation by former Environment Court judge Professor Peter Skelton found that Otago’s freshwater planning system is not fit for purpose to manage the region’s rivers, lakes and aquifers and that the Council has inadequate rules for the taking of water and the discharge of nutrients.   “Existing planning provisions ...
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    18 hours ago
  • LGNZ Rural and Provincial Sector Speech
      Introduction Thank you for the invitation to speak to you today. This is the first opportunity I’ve had to speak to an LGNZ meeting since the local elections, and I’m delighted to see the fresh faces of newly elected mayors. To returning mayors here today, as well as chief ...
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    18 hours ago
  • New Zealand to attend G20 Foreign Ministers’ Meeting in Japan
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters departs New Zealand today to attend the G20 Foreign Ministers’ Meeting in Nagoya at the invitation of this year’s G20 President, Japan. “This is the first time New Zealand will attend a G20 Foreign Ministers’ Meeting and we are deeply honoured that it is at ...
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    20 hours ago
  • Ambassador to the European Union announced
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters today announced the appointment of diplomat Carl Reaich as New Zealand’s next Ambassador to the European Union. “The Ambassador to the EU is one of the most important and senior roles in New Zealand’s foreign service, advocating for New Zealand’s interests with the EU institutions,” Mr ...
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    20 hours ago
  • New inventions boost Predator Free 2050 effort
        Innovation and technology are behind five new tools to give nature a helping hand by helping eliminate predators, funded through the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF), Minister for Conservation Eugenie Sage and Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau announced today. “The new tools will be trialled in ...
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    21 hours ago
  • APEC 2021 Bill passes first reading
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has welcomed the first reading of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation 2021 (APEC 2021) Bill in Parliament today. The temporary bill supports New Zealand’s security preparations for hosting the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Forum in 2021. “APEC is the leading economic and trade forum ...
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    2 days ago
  • Making progress for our kids
    The Government is making progress on improving the wellbeing of the one million New Zealanders under the age of 18,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on World Children’s Day. The Government has today recommitted to the most widely ratified human rights treaty in history – the United Nation’s Convention on ...
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  • Māori women in business contribute to our economy, whānau and communities
    Minister for Women Julie Anne Genter has released a new report celebrating the contribution of Māori women in business across Aotearoa New Zealand. “Māori women are leaders in our communities, they employ many people and support our economy and our communities,” Julie Anne Genter said. The report, Ngā wāhine kaipakihi: ...
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    2 days ago
  • Two schools on the way for Omokoroa
    Four parcels of land have been bought in Omokoroa, in the Western Bay of Plenty District, for an education facility that will accommodate both a primary and secondary school on a campus-like facility, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. Two parcels were acquired from private land owners and two were ...
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  • Families Package helps over 1 million New Zealanders in first year
    1 million New Zealanders warmed by the Winter Energy Payment 36,000 families bank the Best Start Payment in first year 6,000 more families received the Family Tax Credit, 220,600 in total   They receive an increase too – from an average of $117 to $157 a week for Inland Revenue clients, ...
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  • Clamp down on wheel clamping passes third reading
    New rules to clamp down on overzealous wheel clamping and extortionate fees charged in order to release a vehicle have passed their final stage in Parliament today. The Land Transport (Wheel Clamping) Amendment Bill has now passed its third reading. “These changes mean $100 will be the maximum wheel clamping ...
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    2 days ago
  • Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill passes first hurdle
    An independent Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission is a step closer after it unanimously passed its first vote in Parliament today.  The Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill lays the groundwork for establishing the Commission as a fully independent crown entity – delivering on a key recommendation of He Ara ...
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  • Boosting border security with electronic travel authority – now over 500,000 issued
    We’ve improved border security with the NZeTA, New Zealand Electronic Travel Authority, which helps us to screen travellers for border and immigration risks off-shore before they travel to New Zealand. It was launched in August and became mandatory on 1 October 2019. More than 500,000 NZeTAs have been issued since ...
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    3 days ago
  • Plan of action to protect seabirds
    A proposed national plan of action to reduce the number of seabirds caught in fisheries is being circulated for public feedback. Fisheries Minister Stuart Nash and Conservation Minister Eugenie Sage say New Zealand is a global centre of seabird diversity with about 145 species in our waters. It has more ...
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    3 days ago
  • National interest test added to overseas investment rules
    The Government is delivering on its promise to protect New Zealanders’ interests by applying a new national interest test to the sales of our most sensitive and high risk assets to overseas buyers. Associate Finance Minister David Parker said under current Overseas Investment Act rules, assets such as ports and ...
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    3 days ago
  • New housing part of support for Kaumātua
    The Government is building special housing to accommodate one of Aotearoa’s greatest taonga- our kaumātua, says the Minister for Māori Development, Hon Nanaia Mahuta.  Speaking at a National Kaumātua Service Providers Conference in Rotorua today, the Minister reinforced the importance kaumātua play in maintaining and passing on mātauranga Māori, knowledge, ...
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  • Forestry helps prisoners into jobs
    Eleven men from a pilot forestry training programme for prisoners in Northland now have full time jobs or job offers upon release, Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis and Forestry Minister Shane Jones announced today. The ‘release to work’ programme was a collaboration between Te Uru Rākau and the Department of Corrections, ...
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  • Reform of public service a step closer
    Minister of State Services Chris Hipkins today introduced into Parliament a Bill that will make it easier for the public service to tackle the biggest challenges facing Governments. The Bill represents the most significant change in the public service in 30 years. The State Sector Act 1988 will be repealed ...
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    4 days ago
  • Donations scheme to relieve pressure on families
    The families of more than 416,000 students will be better off next year as their schools have signed up to the Government’s donations scheme, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. The scheme will see almost $62.5 million in additional Government funding go to schools nationwide next year. “I’m really pleased ...
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  • Further support for Samoan measles outbreak
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has announced further support as the Government of Samoa responds to a serious measles outbreak. “New Zealand will deploy a further 18 vaccination nurses, bringing the total to 30 working in Samoa over the next four weeks,” Mr Peters said. “A New Zealand Medical Assistance ...
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  • Speech to the Child Poverty Action Group 2019 Summit
      Fa’atalofa atu, malo e lelei, Kia ora koutou katoa Thank you to the Child Poverty Action Group for asking me to be here today to provide an update on some of the things that have been happening across my the social development portfolio.  Can I firstly acknowledge the vast ...
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  • Speech to the New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing Annual Conference
    ***Please check against delivery*** Good morning everyone. It is a pleasure to be with you this morning to open this year’s New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing Conference and AGM. Firstly, thank you Dr Alan Jackson, NZTR Chair for your introduction. And let us acknowledge also: The NZTR Board; Dean McKenzie, Chair ...
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  • Fairer rules for tenants and landlords
    The Government has delivered on its promise to the over one million New Zealanders who now rent to make it fairer and more secure, Associate Minister of Housing (Public Housing) Kris Faafoi has announced today. Both renters and landlords will benefit from the suite of practical changes to the Residential ...
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    5 days ago
  • Two decades of marine protection celebrated at Te Tapuwae o Rongokako in Tairawhiti
    A marine conservation milestone - the 20th anniversary of the establishment of Te Tapuwae o Rongokako Marine Reserve - is being celebrated today at a community event in Tairāwhiti/East Coast attended by the Minister of Conservation, Eugenie Sage. “The creation of this marine reserve in November 1999 was a game ...
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    6 days ago
  • Food industry asked to step up fight against obesity
         The Government is asking the food industry to step up work to tackle obesity including reducing sugar, fat and salt in their products, better information for consumers, and tighter restrictions on advertising to children. Health Minister David Clark and Food Safety Minister Damien O’Connor have responded to a ...
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    6 days ago
  • Modern emergency care for Queenstown area
    ew, modern emergency department and outpatient facilities at Queenstown’s Lakes District Hospital mean better emergency care for the growing tourist mecca’s visitors and locals, says Health Minister David Clark. Today Dr Clark officially opened the hospital’s redeveloped Emergency Department and Outpatient facilities. The new facilities include: •    An extended Emergency Department ...
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    7 days ago
  • Contraception important for New Zealanders
    Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter says today’s release of sexual and reproductive health data reinforces the significance of the Government’s commitment to providing free or very low-cost contraception. The Ministry of Health today published statistics from the Ministry of Health’s 2014/15 Health Survey. “It is important people can make ...
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    7 days ago
  • NZ medical staff and measles vaccines going to Samoa
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced that at the request of the Samoan Government, New Zealand will be providing further support to Samoa as it faces a worsening measles outbreak. “In response to a request from the people of Samoa, New Zealand is providing 3000 measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) ...
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    7 days ago
  • Disability Action Plan 2019 – 2023
    “The new Disability Action Plan 2019–2023 moves us towards the inclusive and accessible New Zealand that this government has committed to,” Minister for Disability Issues Carmel Sepuloni announced today.  “The Action Plan was designed by disabled people, their family and supporters, the disability sector and government agencies. It will ensure ...
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    1 week ago
  • Joint Statement – Third Singapore-New Zealand Defence Ministers’ Meeting
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