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Written By: - Date published: 6:19 pm, October 20th, 2008 - 66 comments
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I have to say, these are my favourite so far. There are some talented people out there.

There’s eight versions of this new one on the Campaign Hub, each with an example of Key flipping-flopping

Keep getting them out there guys. The people deserve to know.

66 comments on “New posters/leaflets ”

  1. Tim Ellis 1

    Gosh. That’s exactly the same theme of the John versus John TV ad I saw from the Labour Party just a minute ago.

    Good on you for authorising it appropriately SP. I realise you’ve gone with black and white to keep costs down, but it’s unfortunate that the colours you’ve used make it look like an NZ First pamphlet.

    At least that was my initial impression.

  2. randal 2

    it might look like somebody elses poster but there is no mistaking the dick cheny sneer

  3. lprent 3

    TE: Everyone should highlight the things that others are good at.

    I’m good at programming. John Key is good at flip-flopping.

    He does feel a bit like a classic black and white portrait of a politician – old school style. Good smile, likeable, two-faced, and with a limited vision and understanding.

    But maybe that is just the effect of having advice from Crosby-Textor. They like cartoons for candidates.

    So maybe the colours are appropriate for both politicians, both Winston and John Key. I have problems telling them apart.

    captcha: wreck because
    ha ha. well the poster says it all…

  4. Rex Widerstrom 4

    It’d hold up a bit better if the quotes allegedly said by Key were referenced (small print in the corner somewhere would do).

  5. QoT 5

    Agreed with Rex – that’s actually the strength of the similar Labour TV spots for me, the fact that every single “he said this” is referenced for all to see.

  6. randal 6


  7. burt 8


    So maybe the colours are appropriate for both politicians, both Winston and John Key. I have problems telling them apart.

    There is a quick cheat you can use to tell them apart. One is loved and supported by Labour irrespective of what he does and the other is denigrated by Labour irrespective of what he does.

  8. Doug 9

    Labour’s coilition partner New Zealand First Winston Peters has put forward a radical proposal to float shares in Kiwibank. Is this Labour policy?

    [lprent: Don’t be silly. Tell me does the party you support consist completely of idiot trolls, just because you are one. Read the About and the Policy at the top of the page. It usually pays to look at the local policy and comments before getting moderated for stupidity.]

  9. Pascal's bookie 10

    ooh look, burt made his comment again.

    Funny how he spins on and on and on about two ticks long enough to curdle water, but still doesn’t understand that in MMP big parties will have coalition agreements with small parties. And that this will involve compromise, (ooh dirty word. Impure. Unclean. Bring out your dead.), or that the parties in coalition are in tactical/strategic arrangements, not moral or even, necessarily, ideological ones.

    I actually think that he feels that if it wasn’t for the two ticks strategy of the big parties, ACT would be getting enough votes to have their policies taken seriously. He just can’t accept that no one likes ACT’s policy program. That can’t be it, it’s all the fault of those darstardly two tickers and the unions. Always the bloody unions. Every comment is a retrospective of his comments past.

  10. lprent 11

    burt: I’m a strong Labour supporter. I’ve never said a good word about either national or NZF (that I can remember).

    Of course I also have the same opinion about the strange obsession that some of the politically naive of the right have with assuming that different parties of a coalition have the same policies. It speaks of a type of simple minded view of the world that must be hard to carry off. Reality, especially political reality, must be very hard for you to endure. It is no wonder that that most on the right seem to have problem with MMP. It makes things too complex for their simple minds.

    Tell me, does your opinion also apply to the Bolger/Winston coalitions of the past?

    (Man you left yourself wide open for that)

    BTW: anyone notice that randal and d4j are in agreement. Now that is scary.

  11. r0b 12

    BTW: anyone notice that randal and d4j are in agreement. Now that is scary.

    More than scary – isn’t it one of the portents of the apocalypse?

  12. burt 13


    As Winston was ex-National the coalitions with National didn’t register as ‘unlikely’ to me then as it would now with the passage of time allowing more specialisation of the NZ1 brand. I’ve never been a big Winston supporter, I’ll be honest.

    Additionally Bolger never defended Winston through a period of parliamentary privilege censure to keep his happy face on for the election.

  13. burt 14

    Pascal’s bookie

    You listen to what I say, I’m flattered.

  14. randal 15

    so what?

  15. milo 16

    There is some great entertainment coming out of all this, and some very pithy sayings. “Tranzrail eyes” was fantastic. And “Don’t let the Green-eyed Labour Monster loose on the streets” was almost as good.

    I’m hoping for more – there’s still weeks to go!

  16. G 17

    Speaking of flip-flopping, let’s have a squiz at the all-time biggest election flip-flop ever — tax cuts:

    Helen: “Tax cuts are a path to inequality and underdevelopment in today’s circumstances. They are the promises of visionless and intellectually bankrupt people.’

    Helen again: “We are not prepared to lash out with across the board tax cuts which would throw New Zealand back into debt, increase mortgage rates, and cut important public services.’

    Cullen: “We just don’t believe in tax cuts – it’s against our fundamental philosophy – after all we are socialists and proud of it.’

    Cullen again: “So, when anyone promises tax cuts, you need to read their lips carefully, because what they are actually saying is longer waiting times for health care, longer queues for public services, lower pensions, fewer police and so on.”

    Nine years — nine freaking years without a tax cut. But when it looks like this one’s going to be all about tax cuts…

  17. G,

    Yep, if National gets in the upper crust will get their tax cuts while the mugs will fork out for the almost half trillion NZ dollars John Key wants in place to help his banking buddies.
    Funny how bankers embrace Capitalism when it’s them scamming the suckers and cry for Socialism when their scams fall flat and they need to bailed out.


    Yep, I thought it was scary too. LOL

  18. randal 19

    ev…justa cosmic coincidence or if one was to get suspicious ummmmmmmmmmm and just a note to all you infantilised co dependents I dont do co-dependency or fuzzy wuzzy feelgoods.

  19. G 20

    Anyone here have the integrity to admit Labour has flip-flopped on tax cuts…?

  20. Phil 21


    Would they be the same wholesale interbank deposits that Cullen has now decided to include in the current scheme?

    You missed a trick there, when you didn’t ‘out’ him as being part of the global money-master conspiracy… you’re slipp(ery?)ing.

    Seriously though, I personally don’t like the scheme at all. But we live in an interdependant world, and if we don’t commit to a course of action, EVERYONE loses out – small businesses, mortgage holders, consumers, mum-and-dad investors, so on and so forth. One area where you and I have always been in agreement (I think) is that, going forward, there needs to be a serious review of how banks operate.

  21. Matthew Pilott 22

    Anyone here have the integrity to admit Labour has flip-flopped on tax cuts ?

    You’re spoiling for a fight aren’t you, wee fella? Anyone have the integrity to conceed to a false dishotomy? .

  22. G 23

    This thread is about flip-flopping on policy, Matthew — care to concede Labour has flip-flopped on what was the biggest political issue prior to the meltdown?

    And “conceed (sic) to a false” what?

  23. randal 24

    nah..this thread is about john keys fundamental flaws…dishonesty and flip flopping. so tell me g what do you think about privatising ACC and selling kiwibank or do you prefer to remain in the land of projected blank pottlekettles?

  24. appleboy 25

    G – I’d like to respond to your post on whether Labour have flip flopped on tax – after you provide the links to the full unedited source to your posted quotes. I believe you are trying to deceive us in providing selected/edited quotes out of context.

  25. burt 26


    Yes they sure have flip-flopped. They were always going to. Labour stupidly painted themselves into a corner on this one. If thresholds don’t adjust and earning inflate over time more and more people are paying rich prick thresholds. It’s not rocket science.

    Cullen also laid out the four way test, another great flip-flop. Dr Cullen told us how prudent it was to stick to these basic principles. Then he ignored that when polling reality gave his belligerence a kick in the teeth. Not be outdone on just ignoring the 4 way test to win this election he threw caution to the wind completely and legislated to forget about his four way test completely for the next 3 years.

  26. randal 27


  27. Tane 28

    G, burt. As usual you leave out the key qualifier:

    “in today’s circumstances”

    But I’m guessing that kind of subtelty is beyond people like you who think the answer to any question, in any circumstances, is sweeping tax cuts across the board.

  28. burt 29


    I just think the ‘flip flop’ line is a stupid one to run in a campaign for any party that has build a solid history of such behaviour. It’s pointing a gun at your own head, the public are not completely stupid. It’s not as black and white as Steve P. wants us to think it is.

  29. appleboy 30

    and i am still waiting to hear from dad4justice – a few days ago he was claiming Labour would slide to 25% in the polls on the back some immigration scandal. 24 hours later we all found out that the chinese gentleman concerned met 3 times with John Key, donated $5K to National, and had Patsy Wong write a letter of support. How does it feel to such a prat? I think d4j you may be one of those who wears swimming trunks in the bath to stop themselves looking down on the unemployed.

  30. burt 31


    Hello again. It’s been awhile. Labour just did tax cuts across the board, why is across the board tax cuts suddenly about me?

    I’ve been a big advocate on this blog for regularly reviewed thresholds, seems Cullen has partially caught up with my thinking that they need regular adjustment. The difference is I think policy should set the thresholds as a percentage of earners and thresholds should be tweaked to maintain integrity of the policy settings on an annual basis.

    Dr. Cullen seems to think that he can predict the economy 3 years into the future and lays them out. How will his 4 way test be applied Tane? Or is that something we don’t talk about these days?

  31. Tane 32

    Hi burt. It has indeed. I’ve been rather busy with work and with helping the real life campaign, so the blog’s kind of taken a back seat.

    My point is that Labour’s policy has always been to build surpluses in the good times to allow for deficits in the bad times. Cullen’s paid down our debt and put us in a good position to handle deficits without having to slash services, cut benefits and reduce wages – a course of action that we know from experience would only drive the country even further into recession.

    I’m not saying I agree with everything Cullen and Labour do. I’m just saying there’s a logic to their surpluses and it’s the same logic that applies to their tax cut package. The supposedly contradictory quotes from your mate aren’t contradictory at all.

  32. G 33

    Appleboy, that quote from Cullen, “We just don’t believe in tax cuts – it’s against our fundamental philosophy – after all we are socialists and proud of it” was a direct lift from his inaugural budget speech in ’99, and cannot be taken out of context.

    The others are all well documented but I’m not wasting my time searching for them. I don’t care if you concede the point or not — it’s obvious to the rest of us in the world outside this blog that, after nine years of denying us a tax cut, Labour has flip-flopped and given us one a month before the election.

    To point fingers at the opposition and cry “flip-flop” is hypocritical, plain and simple, and the fact that none of you socialists are willing to concede it exposes your lack of integrity.

  33. burt 34


    That surplus is stored in the form of lower debt.I have no argument with that, sadly though the lack of productive developments created by the surplus has left us poorly prepared. Now we need to borrow (remember that incredibly expensive thing we must not do) to fund tax cuts. A growing economy also produces opportunity to repay debt, without making the people poor to do it.

    I’ll tell ya what. In late 2009 the 2008 tax year stats will be available. I’ll wager a beer that over 20% of workers (employed people who paid tax – not working age people) have been classified as rich under the Labour-led govt before tax cuts were finally given. This is the result of the ‘top 5%’ tax policy.
    (can we remember to check this late 2009?)

    Teachers being taxed as rich bastards was not a good look for the govt, Labour should have seen that coming and made inflation adjustments in 2005. It was a stupid mistake for Labour to take such a principled stand that tax cuts were bad when it was bloody obvious something had to change soon.

  34. burt 35


    20% is my lower prediction from way back here.

    burt on thresholds at the standard

  35. r0b 36

    it’s obvious to the rest of us in the world outside this blog that, after nine years of denying us a tax cut, Labour has flip-flopped and given us one a month before the election.

    G, your quotes re Labour on tax are mostly 9 years old, and in some cases explicitly contextualised to that time. Now after 9 years of inflation, bracket creep and so on, Labour have decided that it’s time for a tax cut (which fixes 9 years of creep for incomes over 47K and gives a bit more to those under it).

    You can call that a flip flop if you like – knock yourself out – it’s obvious to the rest of us in the world outside your head that it’s responding sensibly to circumstances that have changed after 9 years in office. To be unable to adapt to a changing world is a mark of stupidity wouldn’t you say?

    Compare and contrast with National and Key, who hasn’t been PM for even 5 seconds (expect perhaps in his dreams), and has already racked up a far larger number of flip flops on a far wider range of issues than is really seemly. Just sayin.

  36. Matthew Pilott 37

    G, people not conceding to your point isn’t through a lack of integrity, but an understanding that your points aren’t vaguely valid.

    It’s really quite simple. Labour doesn’t ‘believe in tax cuts’ in the respect that they don’t believe in a progressive weakening of the ability of the state to provide where required. Against that is Cullen’s economic philosophy Tane outlined above.

    The two are not irreconcilable. It’s your shortcoming that you lack the ability to see that (I’m sure your response to this will illustrate that clearly, specious rhetoric about ‘waiting nine years’ notwithstanding), so expecting an admission based abon your flaws is not a little bit unreasonable.

    The question about a flase dichotomy? It’s well documented (i.e use a dictionary) and I’m not wasting my time researching for you. Are you wearing ignorance as a wee badge of pride?

  37. Daveski 38

    I think the Labour strategists have done a wonderful job of spinning the flip-flop line – again, it’s all about perception, not reality.

    I compare HC’s attitude to Key over the tour with HC’s track record in earlier Labour govts particularly in terms of asset sales. It’s remarbable that National hasn’t tried to turn the heat on HC given the consistent line of attack on Key and National. Add to that the barbs about National’s front row when Labour’s core four are even older and more institutionalised!

    As for Cullen’s flip flop, it’s hard to argue that it wasn’t an election bribe given Cullen’s philosophical opposition and the timing of them. If it wasn’t a bribe, why not wait until 1 April when every other tax change is planned? At the time the changes were announced, there was no crisis so the timing was purely about maximising votes.

    Having said all that, I think the commitment to policies is less important under MMP than it was under FPP. Commitment to bottom lines is most likely more helpful to voters.

    Much of the debate here gets polarised along Labour/National lines which is less relevant in an MMP environment.

  38. Matthew Pilott 39

    Daveski, you could try and run the line that it’s a flip-flop that Labour isn’t selling assetts, but why stop there? Why not say they’re flip-flopping because in 1939 they put New Zealand in a state of Total War production? They sure didn’t do that this time. We haven’t even declared war on Germany! Flip-Flop!

    At the time the changes were announced, there was no crisis so the timing was purely about maximising votes.

    I could maybe agree with you there – the specific timing of the cut was most likely to make it take effect before the election, but we’re talking here about a few months. At least you’re conceding that that’s not why they had the tax cut in the first place, only that the timing was pushed forward a bit.

  39. vto,

    Sad, really the baiting. John Key’s lies are enough for me. Lying about his career timeline trying to disconnect him from Andrew krieger and his NZ dollar raid, about his involvement with the LTCM scandal and his ice little business with subprime derivatives, his shares and his policies.

    Are you perhaps a closet case masochist and do you like being abused with lies and dishonesty? Someone lies to me and he’s out. You go and hug your banking scum mate and enjoy his abusive lying.

    So far I’ve only been able to find a commitment for upto 150 billion and John Key just wants to tripple that to 450 billion.

  40. Randal,

    Just joshing mate, I think your comments are generaly hilarious and to the point.

  41. randal 42

    labour= I block of cheese now
    national= 1/2 block of cheese maybe in 2010
    what about the non cheeze eaters
    what do they get
    and when do they get it?

  42. Daveski 43

    MP – my point was that events in 1981 were used in an attempt to damage Key yet more recent events that involved HC doing things diametrically opposed to her current position have been overlooked.

    In terms of the tax cuts, I expect that Cullen was still opposed to them based on his dogmatic principles but was overruled by those worried about the election.

    Trying to be constructive here – Labour fairly can be acknowledged as being a safe pair of hands over the last 9 years although there is a debate about whether they could have been expected to have done more.

    So the question has to be why is Labour struggling to get re-elected particularly when I agree that National hasn’t put a compelling case for election.

    I wonder whether the attacks on the flip-flops are actually counter productive in the sense that most of the flip-flops are things that the general punter supports??

    It will be interesting to see how the next debates pan out given that Labour definitely under-estimated Key’s ability to compete. I would expect the flip-flops to be a line of attack and will be interested to see how Key responds.

  43. burt 44

    Economy over the worst: Cullen – NZ Herald. 12 Sep 2008

    Finance Minister Michael Cullen thinks the worst of the economic recession is probably over – and that Labour’s tax cuts will help to push the economy back into positive growth just as voters head to the polls.

    Labour has good tax cuts, they are powerful. National tax cuts are bad – I’m getting how this works.

    Cullen is just a talking head isn’t he, there are the frequent sharp quips from this man but he has no idea what is going on. He is, as he said himself, out of his depth.

  44. Felix 45

    I don’t think I want to be paid in cheese anymore randal.

    It’s more than I can eat and stay in good health, no-one accepts it as currency, the house is getting overrun with rodents and the bank won’t let me store it there.

    Gonna be a stinky summer if this goes on much longer.

  45. lprent 46

    Daveski: Incorrect. Cullen stated the rationale for when tax-cuts were appropriate a long time ago. I can’t remember the exact list or a link (and have no time to locate them). But they went like this

    1. Get government debt down to an acceptable level. In 1999 it was something like 37% of government revenue mostly from stuff carried from muldoon in the early 80’s. Now it is about 17% and is operational rather than long-term.

    2. Fund the forward obligations of current tax payers. ie fund the superannuation bulge that really kicking in between 2020 and 2050. That is partially done by the Cullen fund and Kiwisaver. However the Nay’s now wish to plunder then destroy both.

    3. Start putting in the physical infrastructure that had been deferred since the late 1970’s. This is partially done and more is underway. Currently the Nay’s appear to want to defer most of this until they have a chance to shift the projects to PPP and make the public part as plunder from the Cullen fund.

    4. Stop wasting people in unemployment. Train them so they can be employed and then make sure the economy is able to employ them. ie Upgrade our human infrstructure.

    Quite simply the morons calling for a tax-cut are short-term idiots who are trying to throw debt onto their children. They haven’t understood or more likely choose not to understand what has been going on in the government for the last 9 years. What they want is consumption now rather then building a sound economy.

    The Nay’s are pandering to that by feeding them carefully selected numbers from the books and stats.

  46. Phil 47


    G, burt. As usual you leave out the key qualifier:

    “in today’s circumstances’

    But I’m guessing that kind of subtelty is beyond people like you who think the answer to any question, in any circumstances, is sweeping tax cuts across the board.

    2005 called – asked if you could pass on a message to Helen about her pathetic attempt to suggest Brash didn’t want anyone to own a house.

  47. Daveski 48

    LP Happy to agree to the fact that Cullen did propose some tests. However, the substantive point I made in my post was the timing which undermines the constructive case.

    Why else were the tax cuts scheduled for 1 October? In fact, the other two cuts are scheduled for 1 April … just not the first one.

    Cullen seems hell bent on not being a populist so the decision I suspect seems to have forced on him. You may be able to comment further.

  48. Matthew Pilott 49

    felix – the bastards are paying me in stilton. If this goes on any longer I’m off to aus.

    Daveski – the attacks over the flip-flops are useful especially when you see what follows them. Key hates WfF, then professes to like it, then acts to negate it. The flip-flops are all populist ones (don’t scare the horses) but underlying that has to be a suspicion that they are ones of convenience, not resolution, and will easily be forgotten out of some future percieved necessity.

    Why is Labour doing badly? A few scandals involving ministers, interspersed with some dedicated research into the performace of the public sector helped to create a perception of the government that isn’t effective, and National’s spin was set to capitalise on that – well they would be since it was clearly the National Paty digging all the stories up. And so they should – just interesting that when Labour does the same, it’s noted that the information came from Labour, thus somewhat negating the attacks. There’s a myriad of small things that have added up to a medium ‘mood for change’. Labour’s support has not diminished a great deal, but National’s has coalesced. If National’s policy was as good as their spin they’d probably easily get a majority, but behind the slick media manipulation and effective attack tactics lies some pure idiocy. Can research programmes? Remove incentives for reform in prisons? $50 rape/murder levies? They’re probably lucky their spin has done as well as it has – I just hope people see that lack of substance before it’s too late.

    Burt – find me someone in a similar position who did predict the recent economic troubles. Good luck with that.

  49. Daveski 50

    MP – a fair and reasonable analysis for the part. I would add the *perception* that Labour has lost touch and to an extent I think it is true. It was fascinating to see some constructive criticism around HC’s performance in the debate here for example.

    As I’ve noted more than once, I think there is post-Brash a much greater similarity between National and Labour – including some of the flip-flops.

    But the attacks on Key have been signalled for some time (SP created the template) but they don’t seem to have gained any traction, at least not yet.

  50. G 51

    Matthew: “The question about a flase dichotomy? It’s well documented (i.e use a dictionary)”

    First you wanted me “to conceed a false dishotomy,” Now it’s “a flase dichotomy?”… and you want ME to use a dictionary?!

    I couldn’t make up this stuff! 🙂

    Okay, so when National adopts Labour policy it’s a flip-flop, but when your lot do it it’s a-okay. When National wants to give us a tax cut it’s irresponsible and inflationary and it’s gonna cost jobs on the frontline — goodbye doctors, nurses, teachers and cops! But when Labour gives us a tax cut “it’s responding sensibly to circumstances.”

    I honestly couldn’t make up this stuff!! 😀

  51. Matthew Pilott 52

    Well done, you’re picking up spelling mistakes as if they are important. I guess it’s one way to deflect attention away from the fact that you’re having trouble understanding what I was getting at, but you could eat a little humble pie and admit it – I’d be happy to help you out there. Otherwise you’ll actually answer the point in your next post, instead of trying to divert. I won’t be holding my breath!

    If you think a tax cut is for one reason and one reason alone, then I can see how you’d reach your conclusion. In doing so, you’re admitting that “Labour believes in tax cuts”, I guess, very kind of you. Even if you’ve got it somewhere between backward and reality.

    No, I honestly don’t think you could. I could make up everything you say, though, with an absolute minimum of fuss. I hope Lynn programmes a troll to do it as he’s been threatening, I reckon it could be better than debating with the real thing!

    [lprent: I will, I will. After the election and probably before xmas. I’ll trial with a wingnut and then the same with (bugger can’t remember the name) and left wing troll. If they pass acceptance testing, I’ll try some blind trials with an IP relay]

  52. Felix 53

    “First you wanted me “to conceed a false dishotomy,’ Now it’s “a flase dichotomy?’ and you want ME to use a dictionary?!”

    But G, you have been using a dictionary – online ones and several of them. And even then it’s taken you bloody ages to realise you were looking for the wrong word.

    The funny thing is you think no-one knows.

  53. Pascal's bookie 54


    It’s wingnuts vs moonbats I think.

  54. lprent 55

    Daveski: I suspect that many politicians in labour would have preferred them last year in 2007 or early in 2008. However the debt only crawled down to the acceptable target rate towards the mid-end of 2007.

    They were announced in this years budget, and typically pay systems require 6 months to get the changes in place – it takes that long to get everything updated. Thats why it was October. Of course that was political as well…

    The point I’m making is that Cullen was doing the fiscally responsible thing based on plans made before the election in 1999. The Nay’s look extremely fiscally irresponsible, especially in their plan to plunder the future returns of my superannuation savings with both the Cullen fund and Kiwisaver to pay for taxcuts.

  55. G 56

    I won the English prize at school, Felix, I’m pretty good at spelling. Though I do admit to the odd error, which I usually spot on the printed read and unfortunately can no longer correct (what happened to the edit function Sysop?).

    But you have to admit, it’s pretty funny that Matt was telling me to examine a dictionary and couldn’t spell his own sentence. Twice. 🙂

    Nice one though guys on The Double Standard: Labour tax cuts good; National tax cuts bad. Hilarious.

    [BTW, there was no ‘false dichotomy’ in my statement — he’s completely misused it]

  56. G 57

    “The Nay’s look extremely fiscally irresponsible, especially in their plan to plunder the future returns of my superannuation savings with… the Cullen fund…”

    Ha! You guys are really cracking me up these days!

    Market meltdown costs Cullen Fund $881m

    I say give it to me now, you prick, and let ME decide how to plan for my retirement.

  57. Oh G, G, G – There is nothing more I would like to see than you be given your own money to fuck up with but alas we live in a society that is designed to save even idiots like yourself from yourselves…

    Is it just me or is the joy one would get from watching stupid libertarians (if I may indulge in tautology) get devoured in a free market the only arguable case for libertarianism?

  58. lprent 59

    G: You’d just waste it speculating on something and then expect me to pay for your wastral ways. I’ve seen your type of idiot investing before.

    Slightly less than 5% loss on the Cullen is very good in the current market. That is pretty much the same as the NZX and a lot less of a loss than the US/UK and almost everywhere else. I haven’t been monitoring because I dropped out to wait out the recession a while ago. The speculators were getting over-excited yet again….

    I’d expect that they will take some more losses over the next 6 months, but it sounds like they’ve been investing the money in the right types of companies. They should also be able to pick up some useful stakes now that the prices have fropped.

  59. randal 60

    g…calm down or they will come and take you away!

  60. randal 61

    g..just been going over your other stuff and the indications are delusions of grandeur with incipient megalomania. just dont let it show in public eh…for your own benefit like.

  61. vto 62

    randal why is your picture a gladiator?

  62. randal 63

    Nosiness leads to the same sort of mental problems that g suffers from.

  63. G 64

    Nosiness is socialism’s middle name, randal little-letters — you guys simply kant keep those sticky beaks out of other people’s business.

    BTW, when Labour got in back in ’99 I invested my savings in gold at a tad under $3, liquidated when it hit $9.50 in July and bought a shit-load of property at really low prices. I could retire but I like my job too much. 🙂

  64. G – in my experience there are no rich libertarians. Only libertarians who think the reason they’re not rich has something to do with the government…

    For any libertarians (other than G) reading this comment – some advice:

    You’re not rich because you are stupid and unpleasant to be around. Neither the government or the Zionist conspiracy have anything to do with it.

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  • Inspiring creativity through cultural installations and events
    Arts, Culture and Heritage Minister Carmel Sepuloni has today announced the opening of the first round of Ngā Puninga Toi ā-Ahurea me ngā Kaupapa Cultural Installations and Events. “Creating jobs and helping the arts sector rebuild and recover continues to be a key part of the Government’s COVID-19 response,” Carmel ...
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  • Drug-testing law to be made permanent
    Interim legislation that is already proving to keep people safer from drugs will be made permanent, Health Minister Andrew Little says. Research by Victoria University, on behalf of the Ministry of Health, shows that the Government’s decision in December to make it legal for drug-checking services to operate at festivals ...
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  • Better rules proposed for freedom camping
    Public consultation launched on ways to improve behaviour and reduce damage Tighter rules proposed for either camping vehicles or camping locations Increased penalties proposed, such as $1,000 fines or vehicle confiscation Rental companies may be required to collect fines from campers who hire vehicles Public feedback is sought on proposals ...
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  • Government backs Air New Zealand as Trans-Tasman bubble opens
    The Government is continuing to support Air New Zealand while aviation markets stabilise and the world moves towards more normal border operations. The Crown loan facility made available to Air New Zealand in March 2020 has been extended to a debt facility of up to $1.5 billion (an additional $600 ...
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  • Building gifted for new community hub in Richmond red zone
    Christchurch’s Richmond suburb will soon have a new community hub, following the gifting of a red-zoned property by Land Information New Zealand (LINZ) to the Richmond Community Gardens Trust. The Minister for Land Information, Damien O’Connor said that LINZ, on behalf of the Crown, will gift a Vogel Street house ...
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  • Pacific languages funding reopens
      Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio says the reopening of the Ministry for Pacific Peoples’ (MPP) Languages Funding in 2021 will make sure there is a future for Pacific languages. “Language is the key to the wellbeing for Pacific people. It affirms our identity as Pasifika and ...
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  • ERANZ speech April 2021
    It is a pleasure to be here tonight.  Thank you Cameron for the introduction and thank you for ERANZ for also hosting this event. Last week in fact, we had one of the largest gatherings in our sector, Downstream 2021. I have heard from my officials that the discussion on ...
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  • Strengthening Māori knowledge in science and innovation
    Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods has today announced the 16 projects that will together get $3.9 million through the 2021 round of Te Pūnaha Hihiko: Vision Mātauranga Capability Fund, further strengthening the Government’s commitment to Māori knowledge in science and innovation.  “We received 78 proposals - the highest ...
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  • Government delivers next phase of climate action
    The Government is delivering on a key election commitment to tackle climate change, by banning new low and medium temperature coal-fired boilers and partnering with the private sector to help it transition away from fossil fuels. This is the first major announcement to follow the release of the Climate Commission’s ...
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  • Continued investment in Central Otago schools supports roll growth
    Six projects, collectively valued at over $70 million are delivering new schools, classrooms and refurbished buildings across Central Otago and are helping to ease the pressure of growing rolls in the area, says Education Minister Chris Hipkins. The National Education Growth Plan is making sure that sufficient capacity in the ...
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  • Two more Christchurch schools complete
    Two more schools are now complete as part of the Christchurch Schools Rebuild Programme, with work about to get under way on another, says Education Minister Chris Hipkins. Te Ara Koropiko – West Spreydon School will welcome students to their new buildings for the start of Term 2. The newly ...
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  • Independent experts to advise Government on post-vaccination future
    The Government is acting to ensure decisions on responding to the next phase of the COVID-19 pandemic are informed by the best available scientific evidence and strategic public health advice. “New Zealand has worked towards an elimination strategy which has been successful in keeping our people safe and our economy ...
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  • Supporting Māori success with Ngārimu Awards
    Six Māori scholars have been awarded Ngārimu VC and the 28th (Māori) Battalion Memorial scholarships for 2021, Associate Education Minister and Ngārimu Board Chair, Kelvin Davis announced today. The prestigious Manakura Award was also presented for the first time since 2018. “These awards are a tribute to the heroes of the 28th ...
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  • Global partnerships propel space tech research
    New Zealand’s aerospace industry is getting a boost through the German Aerospace Centre (DLR), to grow the capability of the sector and potentially lead to joint space missions, Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods has announced. 12 New Zealand organisations have been chosen to work with world-leading experts at ...
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  • Government backs more initiatives to boost food and fibre workforce
    The Government is backing more initiatives to boost New Zealand’s food and fibre sector workforce, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced today. “The Government and the food and fibres sector have been working hard to fill critical workforce needs.  We've committed to getting 10,000 more Kiwis into the sector over the ...
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  • Minister welcomes Bill to remove Subsequent Child Policy
    Minister for Social Development and Employment Carmel Sepuloni has welcomed the first reading of the Social Security (Subsequent Child Policy Removal) Amendment Bill in the House this evening. “Tonight’s first reading is another step on the way to removing excessive sanctions and obligations for people receiving a Main Benefit,” says ...
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  • Mental Health Amendment Bill passes first reading
    The Government has taken a significant step towards delivering on its commitment to improve the legislation around mental health as recommended by He Ara Oranga – the report of the Government Inquiry into Mental Health and Addiction, Health Minister Andrew Little says. The Mental Health (Compulsory Assessment and Treatment) Amendment ...
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  • Whenua Māori Rating Amendment Bill passes third reading
    Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta has welcomed the Local Government (Rating of Whenua Māori) Amendment Bill passing its third reading today. “After nearly 100 years of a system that was not fit for Māori and did not reflect the partnership we have come to expect between Māori and the Crown, ...
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  • Trans-Tasman bubble to start 19 April
    New Zealand’s successful management of COVID means quarantine-free travel between New Zealand and Australia will start on Monday 19 April, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins confirmed the conditions for starting to open up quarantine free travel with Australia have ...
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  • Ngāti Hinerangi Claims Settlement Bill passes Third Reading
    Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Andrew Little welcomed ngā uri o Ngāti Hinerangi to Parliament today to witness the third reading of their Treaty settlement legislation, the Ngāti Hinerangi Claims Settlement Bill. “I want to acknowledge ngā uri o Ngāti Hinerangi and the Crown negotiations teams for working tirelessly ...
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  • Independent group announced to advise on firearms matters
    Minister of Police Poto Williams has announced the members of the Ministers Arms Advisory Group, established to ensure balanced advice to Government on firearms that is independent of Police. “The Ministers Arms Advisory Group is an important part of delivering on the Government’s commitment to ensure we maintain the balance ...
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  • Kiri Allan to take leave of absence
    Kiri Allan, Minister of Conservation and Emergency Management will undertake a leave of absence while she undergoes medical treatment for cervical cancer, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. “I consider Kiri not just a colleague, but a friend. This news has been devastating. But I also know that Kiri is ...
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  • Excellent progress at new Waikeria prison build
    Excellent progress has been made at the new prison development at Waikeria, which will boost mental health services and improve rehabilitation opportunities for people in prison, Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis says. Kelvin Davis was onsite at the new build to meet with staff and see the construction first-hand, following a ...
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  • Expert panel proposes criminal limits for drug driving
    To reduce the trauma of road crashes caused by drug impaired drivers, an Independent Expert Panel on Drug Driving has proposed criminal limits and blood infringement thresholds for 25 impairing drugs, Minister of Police Poto Williams and Transport Minister Michael Wood announced today. The Land Transport (Drug Driving) Amendment Bill ...
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  • Covid-19 immigration powers to be extended
    Temporary COVID-19 immigration powers will be extended to May 2023, providing continued flexibility to support migrants, manage the border, and help industries facing labour shortages, Immigration Minister Kris Faafoi announced today. “Over the past year, we have had to make rapid decisions to vary visa conditions, extend expiry dates, and ...
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  • Covid-19 imgration powers to be extended
    Temporary COVID-19 immigration powers will be extended to May 2023, providing continued flexibility to support migrants, manage the border, and help industries facing labour shortages, Immigration Minister Kris Faafoi announced today. “Over the past year, we have had to make rapid decisions to vary visa conditions, extend expiry dates, and ...
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  • More support for mums and whānau struggling with alcohol and other drugs
    The Government is expanding its Pregnancy and Parenting Programme so more women and whānau can access specialist support to minimise harm from alcohol and other drugs, Health Minister Andrew Little says. “We know these supports help improve wellbeing and have helped to reduce addiction, reduced risk for children, and helped ...
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  • Ahuwhenua Trophy Competition Field Day – Tātaiwhetū Trust at Tauarau Marae, Rūātoki
    *** Please check against delivery *** It’s an honour to be here in Rūātoki today, a rohe with such a proud and dynamic history of resilience, excellence and mana. Tūhoe moumou kai, moumou taonga, moumou tangata ki te pō. The Ahuwhenua Trophy competition is the legacy of a seed planted ...
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  • Crown accounts again better than forecast
    The economic recovery from COVID-19 continues to be reflected in the Government’s books, which are again better than expected. The Crown accounts for the eight months to the end of February 2021 showed both OBEGAL and the operating balance remain better than forecast in the Half Year Economic and Fiscal ...
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  • FIFA Women’s World Cup to open in New Zealand
    Sport and Recreation Minister Grant Robertson and Economic Development Minister Stuart Nash have welcomed confirmation New Zealand will host the opening ceremony and match, and one of the semi-finals, of the FIFA Women’s World Cup in 2023. Grant Robertson says matches will be held in Auckland, Hamilton, Wellington and Dunedin, ...
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  • 1 April changes raise incomes for 1.4 million New Zealanders
    Changes to the minimum wage, main benefit levels and superannuation rates that come into force today will raise the incomes for around 1.4 million New Zealanders. “This Government is committed to raising the incomes for all New Zealanders as part of laying the foundations for a better future,” Minister for ...
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  • New Dunedin Hospital – Whakatuputupu approved for fast track consenting process
    The New Dunedin Hospital – Whakatuputupu has been approved for consideration under the fast track consenting legislation.  The decision by Environment Minister David Parker signifies the importance of the project to the health of the people of Otago-Southland and to the economy of the region.  “This project ticks all the ...
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  • Next steps for Auckland light rail
    Transport Minister Michael Wood is getting Auckland light rail back on track with the announcement of an establishment unit to progress this important city-shaping project and engage with Aucklanders. Michael Wood said the previous process didn’t involve Aucklanders enough.                       ...
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  • Tourism fund to prioritise hard-hit regions
    The Minister of Tourism is to re-open a government fund that supports councils to build infrastructure for visitors, with a specific focus on regions hardest hit by the loss of overseas tourists. “Round Five of the Tourism Infrastructure Fund will open for applications next month,” said Stuart Nash. It ...
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  • Governance Group to lead next phase of work on a potential new public media entity
    A Governance Group of eight experts has been appointed to lead the next phase of work on a potential new public media entity, Minister for Broadcasting and Media Kris Faafoi announced today.  “The Governance Group will oversee the development of a business case to consider the viability of a new ...
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  • New funding to keep tamariki and rangatahi Māori active
    Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson today helped launch a new fund to provide direct financial support for tamariki and rangatahi Māori throughout the South Island who is experiencing financial hardship and missing out on physical activity opportunities. “Through Te Kīwai Fund, we can offer more opportunities for Māori to ...
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  • Single tāne, sole parent dads supported into papakāinga housing
    Six whānau in Pāpāmoa receive the keys to their brand-new rental homes today, in stage four of a papakāinga project providing safe and affordable housing in the regions. Minister for Māori Development, Willie Jackson congratulates Mangatawa Pāpāmoa Blocks Incorporated on the opening of three affordable rentals and three social housing ...
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  • Speech to Disarmament and Security Centre
    Kia ora tatou. It’s great to be here today and to get a conversation going on the disarmament issues of greatest interest to you, and to the Government. I’m thrilled to be standing here as a dedicated Minister for Disarmament and Arms Control, which I hope reinforces for you all ...
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