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New Zealand shamed at Paris

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The aspirational John Key

The aspirational John Key

Well, no one can say John Key was talking up expectations with that statement. Just as well because, once again, New Zealand has won the “Fossil Of The Day Award” for being the most regressive country at the 2015 UN COP21 Climate Summit in Paris.

Just earlier, in typical National Ltd™ style, John Key addressed the leaders of the world with vacuous words wafting on about ending subsidies for fossil fuels. Turns out, however, that since 2008, National Ltd™ subsidies for the production of fossil fuels have gone up 700%. Yes, seven hundred percent! New Zealand now provides over $80m in production subsidies for fossil fuel industries.

Thank’s John. That’s really something all us Kiwis back home can feel overtly patriotic about.

67 comments on “New Zealand shamed at Paris”

  1. esoteric pineapples 1

    The fact that this government isn’t going to make the agricultural sector pay its share of costs for reducing emissions means that it is being subsidised as well.

    • BLiP 1.1

      Yep, I’m so proud.

      • Rosie 1.1.1

        Yeah, me too, proud little Kiwi.

        “Just earlier, in typical National Ltd™ style, John Key addressed the leaders of the world with vacuous words wafting on about ending subsidies for fossil fuels. ”

        I heard him speak of this on rnz this morning. What a womble. (Sorry lovely wombles) He can say that, knowing there are no longer subsidies on the “consumption” side of fossil fuels in NZ and blather on about how everyone else must do the same, while back home he dramatically increases the subsidies on production.

        Do you have special category in your chronicles BLiP for such half truths? How do you categorise a lie that is not actually spoken?

        • Anno1701 1.1.1.1

          Wombles actually cleaned things up didnt they ?

          • Rosie 1.1.1.1.1

            Yes, they did. They were environmentally conscious creatures. “Making good use of the things that we find, the things that the everyday folk leave behind”. They were into recycling and tidying up.

            Womble is a derogatory term for someone who is a bit of a slow fool, and really it shouldn’t be. It’s most unfair. I apologise to wombles, not only of Wimbledon, but to the world wide womble family, who I may have offended by comparing them to the New Zealand PM.

        • BLiP 1.1.1.2

          Do you have special category in your chronicles BLiP for such half truths?

          No, not really, Its difficult enough to keep up with John Key’s blatant lies let along his Crosby Textor language mangling and slippery framing of issues. In this case, it seems almost deliberate. A suspicious person might wonder if NSA had tipped off the GCSB with information from its mass surveillance that John Key was going to receive the Fossil Of The Day for New Zealand’s performance on fossil fuel subsidies. Its not like the GCSB hasn’t done this sort of thing before.

          • Rosie 1.1.1.2.1

            I don’t know how you do it. Key’s mastery of the black arts of deception are legendary. Corralling these utterances must require a special super power.

            And yes, it could be plausible that a 5 eyes partner assisted Key with the direction of his speech by providing some timely information – they didn’t bat an eyelid over the matter of spying on Groser’s competitors for the WTO, as per your link.

            Then again would Key really care if he had knowledge that he was going to win F.O.D and that the priority was always going to be about how he framed our fails and turned it into a win?

            Tracey’s comment further down the post:

            “I thought he sounded the most wooden and looked the most uncomfortable in a very long time making that speech. He looked/sounded like a fish out of water.”

            says a lot about the pressure he was under to magic the spin into something believable. It was like he knew he was dealing with a tougher, sharper crowd than he’s used to on his home turf and one that would bother to scrutinise him, so he had to pull out all the stops for his show of conviction. The strain to do really showed in his speech.

  2. tracey 2

    Can you post the link to the stats which show the rise?

    • BLiP 2.1

      700% increase from 2009 – 2013 – http://350.org.nz/our-work/gofossilfree/take-our-money-out-of-fossil-fuels/

      See also this from Peer Review on Fossil Fuel Subsidies

      . . . At the time the [tax] exemption was being reconsidered in fiscal year 2013, there was a major drilling campaign being prepared for the 2013-14 drilling season with 20 confirmed wells and a further seven wells being classed as contingent, probable or possible. Of the 20 confirmed wells, approximately four to five wells were intended to be drilled by rigs that would have been in New Zealand for over six months. It was considered likely that there would have been a delay in the drilling of these wells if the existing tax exemption was not in place. It is also possible that some wells may not have been drilled at all. In addition, if the wells were drilled at a later date because the exemption was removed, it is likely that there would be additional costs relating to mobilizing and demobilizing rigs. The mobilization and demobilization costs for an off-shore rig are approximately USD 10-15 million (NZD 12.2-18.3 million). These additional costs are deductible by the exploration company engaging rig services against income that is earned from a successful well . . .

  3. Sirenia 3

    The PM seems to believe whatever he says at that particular moment. His grasp of truth and ethics is so minimal that words that completely contradict his actions is business as usual for him.

    • Heather Grimwood 3.1

      Yes, truly frightening Sirenia, and here I’ve been hoping his embarrassment on being immersed in facts in Paris will have made him rewrite his (sadly our) offering. I insist on hoping!

    • b waghorn 3.2

      Just his standard mo of telling a big lie then backing it just long enough for people to lose interest and move on. Same shit different day.

  4. Bill 4

    New Zealand now provides over $80m in production subsidies for fossil fuel industries.

    The IMF calculated that the total subsidy going to fossil for NZ as the following – post tax subsidies US$ 2.51Billion for 2015, up from US$ 2.18 Billion in 2013.

    http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/new070215a.htm

    • David 4.1

      If you read that report, would someone what to explain how on earth the Ukraine spends 60%+ of GDP on energy subsidies?! That’s just beyond laughable, more than half the Ukrainian economy is subsidies for energy, lol.

    • tracey 4.2

      I think the IMF, like our treasury, are just mupets (right Gerry?)

      This has been his (Key) ploy thorughout the seven years…

      Cut, cut, cut. When people cry out, give back some but not all of the cuts to make it seem generous and addressing something even though you never get close to pre-cut rates.

      The subsidy is in reverese. Increase, increase, increase then go on the world stage and offer to cut by 20% HERO!!!!

  5. Anonymous 5

    The manority of people crying about climate change are very hypocritical. Make a change yourself, stop driving cars or travelling overseas. Cycle everywhere. Try crossing between the north and south island without using fossil fuels that will be fun. I am for eeducing emiaaions, but a country can not just do a full 180 degree turn thats not how evonomics works.

    • b waghorn 5.1

      You’re wrong , people vote in there leaders in a democracy in the belief that said leaders will be making the correct decision s for all our futures.
      Piecemeal changes will achieve bugger all ,government needs to drive the changes, unfortunately we have a populist douche as pm instead of a leader.

      • Nessalt 5.1.1

        what a copout statement. the whole idea of marching is not to be seen to be doing something, it’s to actually do something. your idea just allows you to blame everyone else.

        now that you aren’t part of the solution, you are the problem

        • b waghorn 5.1.1.1

          Where did I say don’t march ?
          I said that restricting ones own use of climate damageing substances won’t make a difference , apart from 2008 I’ve voted labour or greens because I wanted a government that would be looking for ways to shift Aotearoa towards good environmental habits.

        • tracey 5.1.1.2

          I love how the people who deny CC and are doing nothing have started t paint themselves as the true righteous ones in all this. Bizarre.

    • Lara 5.2

      The range of choices we have when we make decisions on much of our consumption and our transport are choices which are limited by those who make decisions which affect us all.

      Politicians and business leaders have power. They make decisions which affect us all. Subsidies for decades on the fossil fuel industry skews our choices, affects our behaviour at population wide levels.

      This is not a complicated concept, surely.

      We are ALL “hypocritical”. Some more than others. But there’s nothing wrong with operating within our limited choices and still complaining about it. Because if the playing field weren’t skewed so much towards fossil fuels we would have better choices. And there’s every need to point that out to our “leaders”.

      Would you have no one complain? No one point out that we need population wide solutions to our problems? Because we are all hypocritical. We all use fossil fuels either directly or through the food we eat and the products we consume, every day.

    • Ryan 5.3

      Well actually recent studies show Climate Change main driver isn’t actually Fossil fuels.. Sure they are a big part but… “Animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, water consumption and pollution, is responsible for more greenhouse gases than the transportation industry, and is a primary driver of rainforest destruction, species extinction, habitat loss, topsoil erosion, ocean “dead zones,” and virtually every other environmental ill. Yet it goes on, almost entirely unchallenged.” – Cowspiracy 2014

      • Robert Atack 5.3.1

        Yeah Ryan,
        https://www.farmmachinerylocator.co.uk/impact-of-our-consumption/

        LIVESTOCK’S CONTRIBUTION TO GLOBAL WARMING
        In fact, if we look at figures published by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, agriculture contributes 18% of the total release of greenhouse gases worldwide, a much higher figure than that for transportation. Emissions from cattle are particularly damaging because it is not CO2 that cows are releasing but methane. Every single cow releases between 70 and 120kg of methane per year and while this is a greenhouse gas like CO2, its detrimental impact on the planet is 23 times higher than the negative impact of CO2. In addition, livestock cause over two-thirds of the world’s ammonia emissions, and this greatly contributes to acid rain. When you consider there are over 1.5 billion cattle worldwide the damage quickly adds up.

        Livestock figures are rising because of the general increase in our level of prosperity, which brings with it a higher demand for beef and milk. It’s not only emissions from cattle however that are causing problems to the planet, intensive farming also leads to a whole range of other environmental issues.

        – See more at: https://www.farmmachinerylocator.co.uk/impact-of-our-consumption/#sthash.05Rm4lef.dpuf

        • Naturesong 5.3.1.1

          you may want to recheck a few things.

          Starting with how mixing ammonia with water results in an acid*?

          *normal rain water contains sulfur dioxide, nitrogen dioxide and carbon dioxide.
          When any of these compounds levels are elevated the acidity of rainwater increases (pH decreases).
          Ammonia is a base and will increase pH (more caustic, less acidic).

    • tracey 5.4

      How many of those things are you doing? Or are you smugly doing none as if that makes you the righteous one?

    • Simon Johnston 5.5

      You really think you know all of us, don’t you kiddo? As for your bizarre solutions: apparently you haven’t bothered to find out what it is we actually believe should be happened as solutions to climate change. You make your brainless assumptions, and you attack those assumptions, rather what we actually believe – because engaging in honest debate and conversation, let alone doing some reading beforehand – is just too much hard work.

  6. johnm 6

    Paul Beckwith says: ” Personally I think we are in an emergency situation, the likes the world has never seen before. I have thought this for about the last 5 years, with no doubts and 100% certainty. I think that we are undergoing early stages of abrupt climate change, that if continued unchecked will lead to an Arctic “blue-ocean event” by 2020 or sooner, and the enormous feedbacks will then carry us to a much warmer planet, greatly exceeding the 20C threshold rise that the politicians debate. A blue-ocean event guarantees that the frequency, severity and duration of extreme weather events will ramp up 10 to 20 times over what we see today. ”

    http://paulbeckwith.net/

    In other words the situation has become more serious. To state the obvious we are caught in a monkey trap: To have a hope of saving ourselves we must renounce and let go of fossil fuels if we don’t we’re scuppered! Probably resulting in Homo Hubris/Arrogantis ‘s extinction.

    This government’s reaction: We’re too small to make any f’ing difference therefore not our worry full stop.

    • johnm 6.1

      ” Brazil’s Great Amazon Rainforest Burns as Parched Megacities Fall Under Existential Threat

      One need only look at today’s satellite image of Brazil’s Amazon Rainforest to notice something’s terribly wrong. A vast 1,000 mile swath of what should be some of the wettest lands on the globe running south of the world’s largest river is covered by a dense pall of smoke. Scores of plumes boil up out of the burning and sweltering forest. Pumping dark clouds into the sky, the fires’ tell-tale streaks out over a drought-parched Brazil, across the Atlantic, and over to Africa where the plume is again thickened by yet more wildfires. ”

      http://robertscribbler.com/2015/11/30/brazils-great-amazon-rainforest-burns-as-parched-megacities-fall-under-existential-threat/#comments

      ” The greatest rainforest in the world, sometimes called Earth’s lungs, is burning, blackening, and belching out a thick pulse of carbon dioxide into an atmosphere that is already greatly over-burdened with industry-emitted greenhouse gasses. The world’s largest watershed and remaining largest rainforest combined now finds itself in a crisis of human making. A set of insults that may not now be reversible as the forest begins to succumb to both drought and fire. ”

      ” It’s a crisis that threatens to turn South Brazil into a desert, to turn one of the world’s vast carbon stores into a carbon emissions source, and to eventually convert the great rainforest itself into dry grasslands. Such a transition would result in yet one more major contributor to increasing global greenhouse gas concentrations even as it puts Brazil’s mega-cities under threat of collapse. And it’s a transition that’s happening now. A violent transformation that likely started during the early 2000s. One now reaching catastrophic new intensities. ”

      http://robertscribbler.com/2015/11/30/brazils-great-amazon-rainforest-burns-as-parched-megacities-fall-under-existential-threat/#comments

    • Yeah John,
      Paul said on one of his last presentations, that CH4 was up to 150/1 CO2, which puts the environment at about 700 PPM CO2/CO2e pluse the other GHG’s.
      Nature is emitting more CO2/CH4 than humans now, with the forest fires, methane clatherates, drought etc it may be thousands (?) of years before the environment sees PPM numbers below 400.

    • johnm 6.3

      — Failing phytoplankton, failing oxygen: Global warming disaster could suffocate life on planet Earth —

      Falling oxygen levels caused by global warming could be a greater threat to the survival of life on planet Earth than flooding, according to new research.

      “About two-thirds of the planet’s total atmospheric oxygen is produced by ocean phytoplankton — and therefore cessation would result in the depletion of atmospheric oxygen on a global scale. This would likely result in the mass mortality of animals and humans.”

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151201094120.htm

      Are our oceans dying? Phytoplankton has declined 40% in 60 years as figures reveal Earth has been getting hotter since the Eighties

      Microscopic marine algae which form the basis of the ocean food chain are dying at a terrifying rate, scientists said today.

      Phytoplankton, described as the ‘fuel’ on which marine ecosystems run, are experiencing declines of about 1 per cent of the average total a year.

      According to the researchers from Dalhousie University in Canada the annual falls translate to a 40 per cent drop in phytoplankton since 1950.

      The research into phytoplankton comes as a separate report today offered evidence that the world has been warming for the past 30 years.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1298596/Massive-40-decline-oceans-phytoplankton-puts-entire-food-chain-threat.html

      • johnm 6.3.1

        International Community Attempts to Negotiate with Nature in Paris

        Yet, an uninhabitable planet is what we should expect if participants in Paris fail to reach an ambitious and binding agreement this month that puts science and nature ahead of politics and profits. In this sense, the 40,000 negotiators engaging in two weeks of discussions and horse-trading in the French capital are not really negotiating with each other, but with Mother Nature. And the fact is, there is no reason to think that Mother Nature is willing or able to wait for humanity to start drastically reducing its carbon output.

        “The 40,000 negotiators engaging in two weeks of discussions and horse-trading in the French capital are not really negotiating with each other, but with Mother Nature.”

        “When it comes to global warming and related environmental, security and environmental concerns, these matters are simply not up for negotiation.”

        http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/12/01/international-community-attempts-negotiate-nature-paris

  7. PeterMG 7

    Love it when the loveys from the left call a tax break a subsidy. Just like they call government spending an investment. What they don’t realise is that they only delude themselves.

    Talking of delusion, Paris is full of it this week. The whole world knows man made climate change is a con, yet our brain dead Politian’s along with the troughers from the banks and big business are there to see how much more money they can squeeze out of us in the name of saving the planet. What a joke. Oh and they will have dragged along a bunch of useful idiots from the left who haven’t yet realise this is the biggest redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich in human history. Its a scandal.

    But fortunately for us ordinary people there will be no deal worth a toss, for the simple reason the worlds economy is on the point of collapse and there is no money left.

    And by the way. [Gratuitous personal insult on site author deleted. The only reason the rest of this comment hasn’t been deleted for anthropomorphic climate change denialism is that it serves as an example of the level of ignorance and make-believe thinking required to sustain such a delusional state – BLiP] There is no such thing as a fossil fuel. Hydrocarbons are not fossils. They are not dead fish or dinosaurs or anything else. Not even coal, which simply could not form in the way that mainstream geology would have you believe. This is why every year for the last 200 years or so that we have been mining coal and extracting oil and gas the known reserves have grown. The only limiting factor is demand, and our ingenuity will allow us to extract oil and gas for millennia yet. Oh and just in case you are really worried there is not such this as a green house gas, so sleep easy. Just another lie perpetuated by government paid scientists who know 90% of people won’t look stuff up for themselves. A very sad reflection on the poor state of todays education system.

    • Michael 7.1

      Can you please provide links to literature that clearly states climate change is not related to anthropogenic carbon emmision? Also, can you provide more information as the where these infinite supplies of coal, oil and gas are to be found, and what the cost of extracting them (for which I assume you have accounted for) will be. I tried to look them up for myself but was unable to find. Perhaps you could shed some light here. For the greater good of “90% of people”.

      Kind Regards.

    • Anno1701 7.2

      “The whole world knows man made climate change is a con,”

      no. no they dont ……

      “A very sad reflection on the poor state of todays education system:

      yes, yes you are…

    • Paul 7.3

      We are in deep trouble.
      And our present Neros fiddle as our world burns.
      This is ecocide.

      • We are. And addressing climate change on its own might not be enough. This is systemic trouble we are talking about here, impacting on multiple important parts of the planetary system we call home.

    • alison 7.4

      “There is no such thing as a fossil fuel. Hydrocarbons are not fossils. They are not dead fish or dinosaurs or anything else. Not even coal, which simply could not form in the way that mainstream geology would have you believe.”

      A citation or two would not go amiss here. After all, if your assertion is correct then you’d surely be up for a Nobel Prize.

    • Expat 7.5

      To PeterMG,
      Just a shame their are so many like you who support Key, they seem to have a problem being able to distinguish the difference between verifiable, evidence based FACT, and utter BS, I suppose I can forgive you to some extent, given Key is such a CONvincing liar, and the worst part is that He actually believes what he’s say’s and so does his loyal followers.

    • Murray Simmonds 7.6

      Thank you for that insert, BLiP – the only bit of sanity in the above post.

      Yes, we can only sit back and marvel at the ignorance of the CC-deniers.

      • Robert Atack 7.6.1

        Alas it is not just the out and out CC deniers that ‘we’ are up against.
        It is also the CC down talkers like – McKidding (350.org) Al Gore, Jim Salinger, nearly every ‘on the payroll’ scientist including the IPCC. They all down play the ‘issue’ with utter bollocks statements, like ‘we need to reduce emissions’ …. Nature is bursting forth with more emissions then humans now, our reductions would pale in comparison to what is coming out of the planet at the moment.
        And no one is asking the government to actually do anything that could ‘reduce emissions’ like aiming for 80% unemployment maybe? Telling the truth about our growth based saving scheme, removing subsidies on babies (ouch, or should that be oink, as a pig flies past the window), instead we go on fun walks, taking selfies, to show how much we ‘care’
        How many people on the march were 1- Kiwi Savers 2- having or planing to have children?
        It is down to education … the lack of 😉 Back in 2006 I tried to get the govt to ‘give’ me $30K to try and get serious information into schools and libraries
        http://oilcrash.com/articles/algore01.htm
        But their goal is to maintain the hopium and bullshit, because the truth does not win votes, and boy does that go double for the left.

    • DoublePlusGood 7.7

      “A very sad reflection on the poor state of todays education system”
      That’s a very good reflection on your post, which shows nothing other than that you really should go learn something about geology and chemistry before you return here and post again on those topics.

  8. JimmyP 8

    There a couple of paid deniers on this thread.

    Don’t bother arguing with them as it is their job to spread doubt, in the same way that the anti-smoking lobby did between 1962 and the mid-eighties, before passive smoking became a key concept in the debate. That’s 20 years of deaths from lung cancer because of paid shills.

    The tragedy of our current predicament is that these paid shills are weakening political resolve at a time when we need decisive leadership and coherent action.

    If they are right and anthropogenic warming is indeed less than suggested by the data, then the only harm done will be to migrate our economies to home grown, particulate free energy, which doesn’t pollute our air or enter our bloodstream.

    If they are wrong, as all scientific entities agree – including NASA which has observed warming from 13 different Earth observing satellites – then we are looking down the barrell of hell on earth for our children; failed harvests, dust bowls, mass despeciation, chronic water shortages. (If you need evidence, drive through California today.)

    If you are a Denier, you need to look yourself in the mirror and say, ‘what if I’m wrong?’

    • If you are a Denier, you need to look yourself in the mirror and say, ‘what if I’m wrong?’

      Or look at their children and ask the same question, but that goes for all parents.

  9. JonL 9

    “The whole world knows man made climate change is a con,”… oh dear, another deluded conservative who has convinced himself black is white!
    …and with about as much scientific knowledge as my cat!

  10. http://willnewzealandberight.com/2015/12/01/climate-change-or-not-new-zealand-must-act/

    Whether climate change exists or not, there is a compelling case to act anyway. I have tried to set the basics out in the above article.

    • BLiP 10.1

      Nice work. Take a bow.

    • tracey 10.2

      Thanks Robert, reflects my view too. The thing is what do we have to lose by becoming more responsible and cleaner inhabitants? The game of having to be “right” played by many is killing us. IF the deniers are wrong, we are fucked. If they are right, they can gloat later. The reverse is much worse.

  11. rod 11

    I expect Gower will hail John’s speech tonight.

  12. Smilin 12

    Key , the postulating fossil, what a liar and a disgrace to the nation
    Gets some guts Key and take the blame for all the dough you’ve got invested in the oil industry
    Your speech was a pack of lies you have no conscience

    • tracey 12.1

      I thought he sounded the most wooden and looked the most uncomfortable in a very long time making that speech. He looked/sounded like a fish out of water.

  13. D 13

    Climate change…. Is not man made. …. Are we that delusional that we think we have the power to force the earth and sun? If you think you know a lot then maybe you know little. Earths climate has warmed up. And cooled down. And so on and so forth for a very long time. Before we existed. So what were the reasons before us? We know little about what’s above and even less about what’s underneath us. In fact we have only drilled down over 12km. And yet the earth is over 6,000km to its core. So we know shit. Your fed all these stories and bullshit and yet nothing holds water. Yes we should watch our pollution and the way we are dealing with forestry. But that doesn’t mean you bring in a bull story and jump on it. Climate tax is the latest shit to hit the fan. And most people seem to be sitting around with there mouths open.

  14. lprent 14

    So what were the reasons before us? We know little about what’s above and even less about what’s underneath us.

    Evidently you know bugger all about earth sciences. I suggest that you go and learn some. We know a lot about what has driven the climate in the past and what it does in the future with the things that we have been doing.

    The only thing that we don’t really know about this particular driver of climate change, the push of large amounts of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere, is what the effect of doing it quite as fast as humans have been doing it. That is the ONLY thing that is unusual.

    What humans have done in 150 odd years is what happens ‘naturally’ over thousands and tens of thousands of years. The most spectacular previous atmospheric events like the deccan traps or the siberian traps took thousands of years to get to similar levels of atmospheric change.

    We know exactly happens when we have forced changes in atmosphere. The only question we have is how fast the disaster is going to roll in. Earth sciences have a good idea of what will happen because it has happened before.

    The only real issue is how fast the effects will happen because of the idiotic speed that crazy fools have been throwing fossil carbon into the air. In the past it has taken thousands or tens of thousand of years. The argument in the earth sciences community is if it will happen in years, decades, or (optimistically) over a century. Is it going too be too fast and will topple our civilisation by impacting on agriculture?

    Basically you are an ignorant idiot without any understanding on the subject you trying to wank on about. Perhaps you should go and learn some more before making such a dickhead of yourself.

    • john 14.1

      ‘Gratuitous personal insult on site author deleted. ‘…….one rule for all.

      [lprent: Nope it is not “one rule for all” on this site.

      Since you don’t expend effort keeping this site going, you are covered by the guest rules which are different to those governing the people who actually help to keep this site running, including site authors. See the policy.

      Personally attacking a host on their own site falls under the self-martyrdom rules. Robust debate and pointed abuse are allowed under the general rules.

      Moderators run under their own rules, which largely operate on the basis of making sure that comment stream operates cleanly within the policy, and that their time doesn’t get wasted. We expect thta guests on the site will assist in doing this task by reading the site rules.

      So, lets demonstrate..

      1. Banned for 2 weeks for being a stupid useless critic who hasn’t read the rules of the site.
      2. Banned for 2 weeks for trying to tell us how to run our site.
      3. Banned for 2 weeks for being lazy and not providing a link to your quote.
      4. Banned for 2 weeks for wasting my valuable time in looking up your quote and linking to it.

      Sentences to be served sequentially.

      I hope this demonstrates the difference between those who do on this site and those who are silly critics. But I’d expect that you’ll merely whine about how unfair it all is.

      BTW: did I mention how dangerous it is to call for a judgement from a moderator, getting the call wrong, and wasting their time? ]

  15. http://oilcrash.com/articles/wilson08.htm
    This is Derick Wilson’s last effort to bring some sanity to the discussion , Derick (at 90ish years old) spent $5,000 publishing about 500 copies of the above lecture in a small booklet, he then posted it to every politician, and mayor, and high up public servant, along with Albert Bartlett’s talk on exponential growth, and the movie Blind Spot.
    This was in 2011.

  16. Judith Lawson 16

    Shame on NZ’s prime minister! Every self respecting Kiwi should be up in arms and
    standing in line to take him out office. New Zealand, you’re a better country than
    this …

  17. don Johnson 17

    Good for New Zealand — I’m tired of hearing how we have to reduce our quality of life by destroying our industry, inflating our cost of living and by doing with less — the Paris climate accords are a giant suction draining the life out of our country and for what – I have traveled places in the world and the money being spent is largely being used to keep dictators, despots and bureaucracy in in high life style – it’s not doing jack squat to make a significant difference — Canada pledges 2,6 Billion to the UN – and didn’t even reserve the right to dictate how it would be used –Air Pollution if Africa is so bad that Abuja Nigeria has day time visibility of 75 meters and people want us to cut back on our pollution because 170 million people produce less per capita then 36 million Canadians – they live in a country less then 10% our country size and don’t have winter — Come ON – the day I see real programs – eg – why doesn’t Canada put 100 million dollars into program providing free tune ups for 2 stroke motorcycles in Africa and it will reduce air pollution far more then all the expensive programs they will invest in. The real problem that people do not want to address is that poor people will always pollute – eg burn wood when they cant get better fuel – no one in the third world is worried about 50 years in future — they are worried about having some supper today Congrats to New Zealand – in my opinion the award is an award recognizing they actually do understand and are not being hypocrites – DJ

  18. nettie 18

    God, u guys talk alot of shit. [Rest of comment deleted for anthropomorphic climate change denialism crazy talk. Also, Attempted Derail detected – BLiP]

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    Conservation Minister Eugenie Sage has extended the date for people to have their say on proposed changes to improve management of whitebait across New Zealand.   Submissions were due to close on 2 March 2020 but will now remain open until 9am on Monday 16 March 2020.   “I have ...
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    12 hours ago
  • New international protection for frequent fliers
    The endangered toroa/Antipodean albatross has new international protection for its 100,000km annual migration, thanks to collaborative efforts led by New Zealand, Australia and Chile.   Today, 130 countries agreed to strictly protect Antipodean albatross at the Conference of Parties on the Convention on the Conservation of Migratory Species of Wild ...
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    14 hours ago
  • Government to regulate vaping
      No sales to under-18-year-olds No advertising and sponsorship of vaping products and e-cigarettes No vaping or smokeless tobacco in smokefree areas Regulates vaping product safety comprehensively, - including devices, flavours and ingredients Ensure vaping products are available for those who want to quit smoking   Vaping regulation that balances ...
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    19 hours ago
  • Justice Minister represents New Zealand at Berlin nuclear disarmament summit
    Justice Minister Andrew Little will travel to Berlin tomorrow to represent New Zealand at a high-level summit on nuclear disarmament. This year, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) celebrates 50 years since it entered into force. “New Zealand’s proud record and leadership on nuclear disarmament is unwavering, so it’s important we are present ...
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    1 day ago
  • Prime Minister to visit Fiji and Australia
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern will visit two of New Zealand’s most important Pacific partners, Fiji and Australia, next week. The visit to Fiji will be the first by a New Zealand Prime Minister in four years and comes during the 50th anniversary of Fijian independence and diplomatic relations between our ...
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    2 days ago
  • Next steps in Criminal Cases Review Commission announced
    Justice Minister Andrew Little and New Zealand First MP Darroch Ball, have today announced the appointment of the Chief Commissioner of the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC), the location, and the membership of the Establishment Advisory Group. Colin Carruthers QC has been appointed Chief Commissioner of the CCRC for an ...
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    2 days ago
  • Horticultural Ahuwhenua Trophy finalists announced
    Māori Development Minister Hon Nanaia Mahuta and Agriculture Minister Hon Damien O’Connor co-announced the first horticultural finalists for the Ahuwhenua Trophy celebrating excellence in the Māori agricultural sector.  The three finalists are Ngai Tukairangi Trust from Mt Maunganui, Otama Marere Trust from Tauranga, and Hineora Orchard Te Kaha 15B Ahuwhenua ...
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    2 days ago
  • New support for students with dyslexia
    A new kete of resources to strengthen support for students with dyslexia will provide extra tools for the new Learning Support Coordinators (LSCs) as they start in schools, Associate Education Minister Tracey Martin announced today. The Minister launched the kete in Wellington this morning, at the first of three induction ...
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    2 days ago
  • Rental reforms progress to select committee stage
    The Government continues to make progress on a fairer and more secure rental market for renters and landlords with the First Reading of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill and its referral to the Social Services and Community Select Committee.  “Now is the opportunity for landlords, tenants and others who want ...
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    3 days ago
  • Papua New Guinea Prime Minister to visit New Zealand
    Papua New Guinea’s Prime Minister Hon James Marape will visit New Zealand from 21-25 February, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. “New Zealand and Papua New Guinea have a warm and friendly relationship. I look forward to welcoming Prime Minister Marape here and strengthening the relationship between our two countries,” ...
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    3 days ago
  • Free school lunches served up to thousands
    Thousands of children have begun receiving a free lunch on every day of the school week, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. The Government’s free and healthy school lunch programme is under way for 7,000 students at 31 schools in Hawke’s Bay / Tairāwhiti and Bay of Plenty / Waiariki, extending ...
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    3 days ago
  • Social Wellbeing Agency replaces Social Investment Agency with new approach
    The Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni today announced a new approach that continues to broaden the Government’s social sector focus from a narrow, investment approach to one centred on people and wellbeing. Minister Sepuloni said redefining the previous approach to social investment by combining science, data and lived experience ...
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    3 days ago
  • Government to strengthen protections for whistleblowers
    The Government is strengthening the Protected Disclosures Act to provide better protection for whistle blowers, Minister of State Services Chris Hipkins said today. “The Protected Disclosures Act is meant to encourage people to speak up about serious wrongdoing in the workplace and protect them from losing their jobs or being ...
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    3 days ago
  • PM speech at Parliamentary Chinese New Year celebration 2020
    Nǐn hǎo (Hello in Mandarin). Xīn Nián Kuài Lè (Happy New Year in Mandarin) Néi Hóu (Hello in Cantonese). Sun Nin Fai Lok (Happy New Year in Cantonese) Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa. Thank you for your invitation to attend this celebration today. I would like to acknowledge ...
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    4 days ago
  • IPANZ Annual Address
    Kia ora. Ngā mihi nui ki a koutou katoa. Nau mai haere mai ki te Whare Pāremata. E ngā mana whenua ki tēnei rohe Taranaki Whānui, Te Upoko o Te Ika, Ngāti Toa Rangatira, Ngāti Raukawa – kei te mihi, kei te mihi, kei te mihi. E ngā mana, e ...
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    4 days ago
  • 2020 IPANZ Annual Address
    Kia ora. Ngā mihi nui ki a koutou katoa. Nau mai haere mai ki te Whare Pāremata. E ngā mana whenua ki tēnei rohe Taranaki Whānui, Te Upoko o Te Ika, Ngāti Toa Rangatira, Ngāti Raukawa – kei te mihi, kei te mihi, kei te mihi. E ngā mana, e ngā ...
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    4 days ago
  • Tougher penalties for gun crime a step closer
    Tougher penalties for gun crime are a step closer with the passage of firearms reform legislation through another stage in Parliament. The Arms Legislation Bill has tonight passed its Second Reading. “The changes have one objective - to prevent firearms falling into the wrong hands,” said Police Minister Stuart Nash. ...
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    4 days ago
  • Arms Legislation Bill: Second Reading
    Introduction Mr Speaker We all know why we are here today. It has been a long journey. The journey did not actually begin on 15 March 2019. It began on 30 June 1997. Almost 23 years ago, Justice Sir Thomas Thorp told us what was wrong with our firearms legislation. ...
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    4 days ago
  • New era for vocational education
    The Government’s work to put trades and vocational education back on the agenda took another major step forward today with the passing of the Education (Vocational Education and Training Reform) Amendment Bill, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said. “This is a watershed day for trades and vocational education. These law changes formalise ...
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    4 days ago
  • Bill to Amend the Greater Christchurch Regeneration Act
    Speeding up the return of Christchurch regeneration activities to local leadership is behind the Greater Christchurch Regeneration Amendment Bill introduced to Parliament today by Minister Megan Woods. “As we approach nine years since the February 2011 earthquake in Canterbury, and with the transition to local leadership well underway, the time ...
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    4 days ago
  • Milford Track to partly reopen after storm damage
    Hundreds of New Zealanders and international visitors will be able to get back out into nature with the Milford Track partially reopening next week, after extensive assessments and repairs, the Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage announced today. The popular Great Walk has been closed since 3 February after an extreme ...
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    4 days ago
  • Government drives low-emissions transport momentum
    Up to 110 new EV chargers nationwide in cities and regions 50 electric vehicles for ride-sharing The Government is helping deliver more infrastructure and options for low emissions transport through new projects, Energy and Resources Minister Dr Megan Woods says. Tauranga, Nelson, Levin, New Plymouth and Oamaru are just some ...
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    5 days ago
  • Kiwis better off under Coalition Government
    New Zealanders are increasingly better off under this Government as wages rise and families have more disposable income, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. Stats NZ reported today that average household disposable incomes after housing costs rose 4.9% in 2019. This was the highest rise in four years and came as ...
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    5 days ago
  • Another step towards restoring rights for screen production workers
    All New Zealanders need to have their voices heard at work to ensure we have an inclusive and productive economy. Today we introduce a Bill to do this for workers in the New Zealand screen industry, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. “The Screen Industry Workers Bill will ...
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    5 days ago
  • Enhanced Taskforce Green for Southland and South Otago
    The Government has announced further help for the Southland and Otago regions to speed up recovery efforts from the floods.  “I’ve approved Enhanced Taskforce Green (ETFG), making $500,000 available to help with the clean-up in Fiordland, Southland, and the Clutha district in Otago,” Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni said.  ...
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    6 days ago
  • Employers and Industry take the lead to connect students to vocational education
    Following the announcement that more than 340 schools will be funded to run events promoting vocational education, the Government has announced it will fund a further 257 events to be run by employers and industry. “These industry-run events will allow more than 30,000 students to connect with more than 2,000 ...
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    6 days ago
  • Rental reforms a step closer with the introduction of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill
    Today the Government is making progress on a fairer and more secure rental market for renters and landlords with the introduction of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill in Parliament.  “This Bill includes a series of reforms to improve the wellbeing of the 609,700 households that live in rented homes, and ...
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    6 days ago
  • Biosecurity Minister announces world first eradication of pea weevil
    A Government programme to wipe out pea weevil has achieved a world first, with Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor today announcing the successful eradication of the noxious pest from Wairarapa. This means the nearly four-year ban on pea plants and pea straw was lifted today. Commercial and home gardeners can again grow ...
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    6 days ago
  • Temporary Accommodation Service activated for Southland flooding
    Southland residents hit by flooding caused by heavy rainfall can now access help finding temporary accommodation with the Government activating the Temporary Accommodation Service, Minister of Civil Defence Peeni Henare announced today. “The Temporary Accommodation Service (TAS) has been activated by the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment to help ...
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    6 days ago
  • Bridges: Over-hyped and under-delivered
    “Is that it?” That’s Finance Minister Grant Robertson’s response to Simon Bridges’ much-hyped economic speech today. “Simon Bridges just gave the most over-hyped and under-delivered speech that I can remember during my time in politics,” Grant Robertson said. “It’s not surprising. Simon Bridges literally said on the radio this morning ...
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    6 days ago
  • Police to trial eye in the sky in Christchurch
    A trial deployment of the Police Eagle helicopter in Christchurch will test whether the aircraft would make a significant difference to crime prevention and community safety. “The Bell 429 helicopter will be based in Christchurch for five weeks, from 17 February to 20 March,” said Police Minister Stuart Nash. “The ...
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    7 days ago
  • Momentum of trade talks continues with visits to promote Pacific and Middle East links
    The Government has kept up the pace of its work to promote New Zealand’s trade interests and diversify our export markets, with visits to Fiji and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) by Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker. Building momentum to bring the PACER Plus trade and development agreement ...
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    7 days ago
  • Coalition Govt’s investment in Customs nets record drugs haul: 3 tonnes stopped at borders in 2019
    The Coalition Government’s investment in a strong border and disrupting transnational organised crime produced record results for stopping drugs in 2019, says Minister of Customs Jenny Salesa. The illegal drugs were seized at the New Zealand border by Customs, and overseas by Customs’ international border partners before the drugs could ...
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    7 days ago
  • Separated scenic cycleway starts
    Transport Minister Phil Twyford today kicked off construction of a separated cycleway alongside Tamaki Drive. A two-way separated cycleway will be built along the northern side of Tamaki Drive, between the Quay Street Cycleway extension and Ngapipi Road. There will be a separate walking path alongside. Phil Twyford said giving ...
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    1 week ago
  • Earthquake-Prone Building loan scheme: eligibility criteria announced
    Owner-occupiers of unit and apartments living in earthquake-prone buildings will have certainty about the financial support they’ll be eligible for with the release of criteria for an upcoming assistance scheme, Minister for Building and Construction Jenny Salesa says. The Residential Earthquake-Prone Building Financial Assistance Scheme will help unit owners facing ...
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    1 week ago
  • Travel restrictions to remain in place as coronavirus precaution
    Temporary restrictions on travel from China will remain in place as a precautionary measure to protect against the spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus. The restrictions which prevent foreign nationals travelling from, or transiting through, mainland China from entering New Zealand have been extended for a further 8 days. This position ...
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    1 week ago
  • Over $1 million to help Tairāwhiti youth into employment
    Employment Minister Willie Jackson announced today that Tairāwhiti rangatahi will benefit from an investment made by the Government’s He Poutama Rangatahi (HPR) scheme. The funding will go to the Tautua Village, Kauneke programme and the Matapuna Supported Employment Programme which will fund 120 rangatahi over two years. “Both programmes work ...
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  • School attendance has to improve
    All parents and caregivers need to ensure that their children go to school unless they are sick, Associate Education Minister Tracey Martin said today. “The school attendance results for 2019 show, across the board, a drop in the number of students going to school regularly,” the Minister says. “Apart from ...
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    1 week ago
  • Crown and Moriori sign a Deed of Settlement
    A Deed of Settlement agreeing redress for historical Treaty claims has been signed by the Crown and Moriori at Kōpinga Marae on Rēkohu (Chatham Islands) today, Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Andrew Little has announced. Moriori have a tradition of peace that extends back over 600 years. This settlement ...
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    1 week ago
  • Waikato Expressway driving towards completion
    Transport Minister Phil Twyford today with Māori King Tuheitia Pōtatau Te Wherowhero VII officially opened the country’s newest road, the $384 million Huntly section of the Waikato Expressway. The 15km four-lane highway with side and central safety barriers takes State Highway 1 east of Huntly town, across lowlands and streams ...
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    1 week ago