If there is ever a Nuremberg type trial for those charged with committing ecocidal crimes against the climate, Scott Morrison's name will be read out at the top of the charge sheet.
Australia’s Angry Summer: This Is What Climate Change Looks Like
The catastrophic fires raging across the southern half of the continent are largely the result of rising temperatures
By Nerilie Abram on December 31, 2019
Great articles. In the meantime the politicians like this country let other countries to bottle and export their water, no doubt in environmentally damaging plastic bottles. Someone making a quick buck is more important than looking after the environment or your own people first.
Tragic to read that about 30% of the koalas have died, and other wildlife has also been devastated. It will never recover as we can expect this shit to continue now year after year after year. In fact Oz will become a hostile place to live. No longer a holiday destination for us as we loved the bush but now too dangerous to have out back type holidays
It is a pity that it wasn't 30% of the politicians and large corporates of this world that suffered if they did the problems would start to be fixed overnight.
To be honest, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the Aussies who keep voting those dinosaurs back into power. They are getting what they deserve. The unfortunate side effect: the undeserving are copping it too.
As for the wild life – it is too upsetting to even think about.
Indeed (as far as the sympathy bit goes). It's becoming harder and harder to feel anything for the willfully and intentionally ignorant.
The undeserving are copping it everywhere – so as I said yesterday, things might have to get worse before they get better. In the scheme of things – so be it.
It's even worse when you consider the okkers have compulsory voting. But guess what (what OWT?). Expect a load of Australian and British refugees (due to climate denial and Brexit respectively), and they won't be considered "queue jumpers" or "economic migrants", and they won't be coming in boats either.
Viewing the docudrama Chernobyl on Prime TV a few weeks ago one of the most shocking aspects of the disaster apart from the disaster itself was how the Soviet authorities down played it.
Reminiscent of the fire crisis in Australia and how the authorities there try to down play it.
Despite the efforts of the Soviet authorities to downplay the true full horror of the Chernobyl disaster, the truth was revealed to the world by American satellite images that showed the Chernobyl reactor core open to the sky spewing radiation across Europe.
Luckily for us, the dense plume of smoke from the Australian bush fires, revealed by the Japanese satellite to be big enough to blanket the whole of the South Island, is passing just below the bottom of our country.
The smoke is very much blanketing Whakatipu. Can't see the other side of the lake, and tops of mountains around town are up in the murk. Some street lights are on, there's no sun and a strange diffused yellow light. And it's quite windy, whitecaps on the lake.
Dark and yellow in Dunedin, midday everyone is driving with headlights on, air smells smoky, can feel grit on my fingers, it's very strange and unnerving.
OK so many people on this site probably find me to be an entrenched bore, which is also probably true, but I'm not apologizing for having firm views, that's how I roll..but seeming as it's the new year and all, here is a little gift from the beautiful archives of the classic period of American Public Access TV…enjoy, and hope you all have a great and happy years ahead..
Did Nero really play the fiddle while Rome burned?
Did Scott Morrison really holiday in Hawaii while Australia burned?
Gaze on the weirdly manic images all over the internet of Scott Morrison with a wreath of Hawaiian flowers crowning his forehead, while Australian burned, and not be awed with the eerie similarity with ancient and modern images of of Nero depicted with a wreath of laurels on his forehead while Rome burned.
Historians cannot agree whether the ancient written written accounts that Roman Emperor Nero fiddled while Rome burned are accurate, or were just repeating contemporary mischievous gossip.
But modern recording technology and the internet will leave no doubt for future historians to determine that Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison did indeed holiday in Hawaii while Australia burned.
'Last week Beehive insiders told leading political journalists that the “Year of Delivery” promise was actually a spin-line produced on the fly by the PM’s top spin doctor to get his boss out of a tight situation when she needed something memorable to say at the start of 2019.'
So just to be clear you're saying that the COLs failure is because of National/Act, the opposition, whose job it is to oppose the COL is opposing the COL successfully
Huh well ok, that's an…interesting take on it I suppose
Figure 1 in the cabinet paper linked on that page is a bar chart that looks to be scheduling roughly 160mill total 2018 and 2019. So progress is looking reasonable.
Oh, and there's actual progress on my local hospital, so that's another one.
I haven't read the Edwards' piece because as soon as I saw it was him I didn't bother.
But it sounds like a made-up bit of tosh. Part of the DP election strategy the Nats have chosen to run with. Hope it ends up biting them so hard on the bum they'll be yelping for years afterwards.
Is it climate change, or geoengineering that is accelerating climate change? Be nice if geo' wasn't auto-dismissed especially when we NEED to know exactly how much impact (if any) this is having so we can follow up with solutions.
Indisputable are the patents for weather modification + measurable aluminum where it should not be..whales, bees, rainwater….
Good thing is that if it is a major issue it can be halted immediately, delaying our rapidly approaching demise.
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Anat Shenker-Osoroio's mop of hair probably generates its own heat & is a climate change threat. She needs Greta with a large razor to trim it while Greta dissess her with statements like "You have ruined my dreams” "I will never forgive you"
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Thanks for sharing that ‘classic‘ example of Thunberg belittlement PR – can see why it tickled your fancy. TIME's person of the year (2019) will be cut to the quick.
Can't wait for the Adani coal basin development to ‘come online‘ – more coal than you can shake a stick at, I reckon! Looking forward to longer-lasting magical yellow skies.
No need to answer; not surprised that you would choose to associate Thunberg with Hitler and Stalin. IMHO 1988 and 2011 would be better and more accurate choices.
Don't take that "beratement" personally – Thunberg doesn't know you exist. Fantastic to realise that she's been much much more influential in just one year than you and I will be in our entire lifetimes. What a wonderful world.
An inspiration to tens of millions. Yes yes, I know – "So was Hitler!"
There's really nothing more persuasive than seeing white men disparaging an autistic teenage girl on the Internet, right? That's the gold standard of persuasive argument right there.
But in the meantime, this teenage girl can experience everything the world's grumpy old men can throw at her, because she dared to stick out from the rest. Whatever gets you through the night, I guess.
The opportunity here is that the current bushfire crisis will push a larger number of the population to demand change and more people will then support movements like SS4C, and then the politicians will follow. This is how change happens.
That is very unlikely, as spending billions of dollars with no idea of what effect such expenditure will have is not something I'd recommend. Bjorn Lomborg has made the same point. And bushfires have been happening for decades. Many people possibly wouldn't be aware that there was a huge bushfire in Victoria in 1851 and there have been many large bushfires since.
I don’t allow climate denial under my posts. This has been well hashed out. Climate scientists and very experienced firefighters are saying you are wrong. These fires are unprecendented in scale, intensity and timing. This isn’t one large bushfire in one area, this is fires across the whole country and at times not normally experienced. And driving that is drought from climate change.
The economic cost of not acting will far, far outweigh any negatives to the economy now from climate action. But there is no good reason to not change the economy.
I'm not sure if you're referring to someone else as you would well know I'm not a climate denier.
The economic cost of not acting will far, far outweigh any negatives to the economy now from climate action.
Well, that is your opinion but it doesn’t appear to be based on fact. What is a fact is that spending large sums on an indeterminate outcome will mean less expenditure elsewhere.
perhaps you need to make your point clearer then, because it looked to me like you were saying Australia has always had fires, and there's no point in Australia reducing GHGs or taking serious action on CC.
"Well, that is your opinion but it doesn’t appear to be based on fact. What is a fact is that spending large sums on an indeterminate outcome will mean less expenditure elsewhere."
Spending billions or trillions of dollars and hoping for the best. That is the antithesis of science.
This year, the world will spend $US162 billion ($230bn) subsidising renewable energy, propping up inefficient industries and supporting middle-class homeowners to erect solar panels, according to the International Energy Agency. In addition, the Paris Agreement on climate change will cost the world from $US1 trillion to $US2 trillion a year by 2030. Astonishingly, neither of these hugely expensive policies will have any measurable impact on temperatures by the end of the century.
Climate campaigners want to convince us that not only should we maintain these staggering costs, but that we should spend a fortune more on climate change, since our very survival is allegedly at stake. But they are mostly wrong, and we’re likely to end up wasting trillions during the coming decades.
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Over-the-top environmental activists are not only out of synch with the science but they also are out of touch with mainstream concerns. A global poll by the UN of nearly 10 million people found that climate change was the lowest priority of all 16 challenges considered. At the very top, unsurprisingly, are issues such as better education, better healthcare and access to nutritious food. We need to address climate change effectively — but we should remember that there are many other issues that people want fixed more urgently.
I guess if we were to print money, we could possibly afford to waste trillions. But we likely won't be printing money – we'll simply be forgoing expenditure elsewhere (eg, health, welfare, education).
Garden variety third generation climate denial right there.
If you say so.
In 2018, 10 million people contracted tuberculosis (TB) and 1.5 million people died from it. A lack of clean drinking water is estimated to cause about a half a million deaths each year. If only some of those trillions spent on climate change was spent elsewhere.
"The International Monetary Fund periodically assesses global subsidies for fossil fuels as part of its work on climate, and it found in a recent working paper that the fossil fuel industry got a whopping $5.2 trillion in subsidies in 2017. This amounts to 6.4 percent of the global gross domestic product."
Your response is akin to anyone criticising Israel being labelled an anti-semite. Please try and engage meaningfully.
Lomborg is saying that climate change is a real problem but it's not the only problem. He's also saying that it would be foolish to throw vast sums of money at the problem when the expenditure is likely have little impact on climate. He also makes the point that renewables need to be much cheaper, and governments need to commit to making them cheaper.
Feel free to make the argument about how I am wrong then. I can only go off what I am reading here.
Well, I've commented here over several years – my views are well known.
To repeat: should we throw billions or trillions of dollars at a problem if we don't know what effect, if any, that spending will have? Lomborg claims it will have a negligible effect. Meanwhile, about two million people die each year from TB or a lack of clean drinking water. Some 400,000 people die each year from malaria.
"An estimated 6.3 million children under 15 years of age died in 2017, or 1 every 5 seconds, mostly of preventable causes, according to new mortality estimates released by UNICEF, the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations Population Division and the World Bank Group."
“Without urgent action, 56 million children under five will die from now until 2030 – half of them newborns,” said Laurence Chandy, UNICEF Director of Data, Research and Policy. “We have made remarkable progress to save children since 1990, but millions are still dying because of who they are and where they are born. With simple solutions like medicines, clean water, electricity and vaccines, we can change that reality for every child.”
These are huge numbers and greater than the number of deaths caused by climate change. Feel free to ignore these facts on the basis of climate denial. However, that would be unhelpful and wrong.
See, there's your problem right there. You're treating some Danish statistician as an authority on climate and then trying to argue from authority that we don't need to do anything about AGW. That looks like disingenuous AGW denial to the people on this thread, with good reason. You should consider a different approach if you want to post on weka's threads.
Sounds familiar. We shouldn't spend health budgets on reducing smoking while a single tuberculosis case remains untreated.
That's a weird response and completely misses the point I was making. We shouldn't be spending vast sums of money when we have no idea if that spending is going to have much if any impact. That is especially so when other significant problems exist which are resulting in considerable harm and death.
You're treating some Danish statistician as an authority on climate and then trying to argue from authority that we don't need to do anything about AGW.
Hmmm you'll have to point to where he or I say that we should do nothing about AGW. As for making a veiled threat about who should be posting on Weka's threads, those that have to bullshit to bolster their argument should go to Kiwiblog. 🙂
"As for making a veiled threat about who should be posting on Weka's threads, those that have to bullshit to bolster their argument should go to Kiwiblog."
I've long had a position of no climate denial under my posts. I've written about the why in the past. Sometimes I put a note at the end of the post, but unlike when I first started writing I generally don't need to now because there aren't as many deniers around (and those that are know better).
The onus is on commenters to demonstrate that they're not running denialist lines. I still haven't seen you do that.
Oprah Winfrey and the positivity click are out in force.
Think positive and the world is your oyster – funny how that has not worked for the last 40 odd years.
Although it keeps getting repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
The answer is not nice words, positive thoughts and good intentions.
The answer is to stop an ideology and system which is killing us.
The sad truth is that all the guns, bombs and nukes – are in the hands of the maniacs who are the biggest stakeholders to keep the ideology and system running.
Only option – stop
Stop driving, stop working, stop being part of the system. Just stop.
Too Soon…
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By all means adam, stop what you are doing. Turn off the power, the internet, the water and sewerage. Don't use the car, don't go to the supermarket … don't whatever you do go to the doctor or a hospital, call for the police or expect a lawyer to defend you.
And especially don't expect the emergency services to scrape your rotting carcass off the couch.
The point is you cannot stop, you are part of the world whether you like it or not. Stopping is not an option because you have basic needs that must be met, today, tomorrow and next week. Now I have no quibble with you having a vision of a different world, I have no problem at all with idealistic people. But you cannot get there if you starve today.
None of us can, and there are 7b people to feed, today and tomorrow.
Hey Red. At what point over the past few hundred years did the system of production and distribution we're tied into feed all of the world? Pretty sure it's been responsible for a lot of unnecessary starvation because. y'know, "the market". (Obvious eg – Irish people starved as food was exported from Ireland)
Individual action won't cut the mustard. But individual non compliance can contribute to making current arrangements unsustainable. So maybe I'll drive a car if I justify a reason for driving it. And if I determine that a car journey so a guy can make me use my time 'making useless widgets' so he can make money doesn't justify driving a car, then hey…and that Human Rights protection if the legal system considers my reasoning to be on a par with religious belief 🙂
But y'know, I'm a doctor or a nurse or a maintenance guy on crucial infrastructure….I'll drive to work if need be. 😉
And while I do that, society drops its use of carbon related energy by 15% per year…aided and abetted by all those guys refusing to chew carbon for the sake of some cunt making profit from useless widgets…
At what point over the past few hundred years did the system of production and distribution we're tied into feed all of the world?
The old 'demanding perfection' fallacy. Of course the system failed from time to time, yet in 1800 there were just over 1b people and we seriously struggled to feed them reliably. Famine and winter starvation was a stark reality for many. Now we are 7.5b and growing and the biggest problem we have relating to food is that too many of us eat too much.
Yes the bottom 1b humans still live precarious lives, but can you not see progress when it's literally on your plate daily?
Nor am I claiming the forms of economy we have today are perfect and sufficient; that would be insane. Of course there is much room for improvement. But I generally find that the best way to improve a complex machine is not to start with a wrecking ball. Especially not machines I don't fully understand, I'm dependent on, and I don't have a backup for.
No. I'm pointing out that capitalism has produced famines and prolonged famine because implementing the ideology takes precedence over confronting reality humanely. That's entirely different from saying capitalism didn't prevent hunger or famine.
But I generally find that the best way to improve a complex machine is not to start with a wrecking ball.
Sometimes a tweak here and an adjustment there will be all that's required – that's true. And sometimes reality demands a Copernican revolution. The trick is in recognising the nature of situation confronting you.
Famines and similar disasters long pre-dated capitalism, nor does it produce or prolong them by design. Otherwise why in such an intensely capitalist modern world are they now so comparatively rare? The problem with Ireland was not so much the market economy, but that the Irish people had lost political control over it.
And don't pull the black and white fallacy on me. I may be defending industrialised capitalism for what it has achieved, but I'm not advocating that it can exist divorced from social and political concerns, nor that it's current form is sufficient.
As for Copernicus, his revolution was entirely conceptual. It dramatically shifted our thinking, but on the day nothing changed. People still tilled fields, cooked meals and had babies as they always did. By contrast getting to carbon zero is going to demand a lot of complex, pragmatic change that will impact our daily lives. It's a totally different kind of problem, one that will not be solved with any kind of magical thinking or silver bullet. It will be one tricky damned thing after another, with lots of mistakes and missteps as usual.
Famines and similar disasters long pre-dated capitalism, nor does it produce or prolong them by design.
Of course famines have been around "since forever"! But capitalism does actually produce and prolong famines because of its inherent logic. If you don't like the Irish example, then let me give you the example of Tanzania (subject of the documentary "Darwin's Nightmare") – Nile Perch introduced to Lake Victoria, processed in a Japanese owned fish factory and exported to European restaurants by Russian cargo planes even as the local population starved. Such a shame the locals weren't rationally optimising economic units fruitfully engaging in neutral market transactions for food, eh?
Yes, the Copernican Revolution was conceptual in nature. But what is capitalism if not a concept?
Again your example in Tanzania is more about political failure than the market. One of the core primary duties of any modern government is to ensure food security for it's people. I wonder if that documentary examined the role of the Tanzanian government in this? And would I loose much money if I bet on a fair bit of official corruption somewhere in that sadly sordid loop?
But what is capitalism if not a concept?
Carbon zero may be an idea, but achieving it is not. It will demand a substantial rewiring of our entire industrial economy … while it continues to feed, clothe and protect us daily. I see that as an intensely practical undertaking. Conceptual my arse 🙂
So you've never seen the documentary but confidently state the famine was down to dodgy politics, not the rationale of economics. Watch it and then come back to me on the topic if you want.
I've never suggested that getting to zero carbon from fuel was anything other than a practical undertaking. What I said was that capitalism is just a concept – one that stands four square against any practical undertaking vis a vis global warming.
I'm also slightly curious as to who this "us" is that you're referring to. Does it include the people of Venezuela who are being starved or otherwise killed by the US led economic blockade of the country? Or does it include all the Iranians and/or Syrians who are being similarly denied basic requirements of life? Or the homeless in New York or London or Cairo or Auckland….does it include them? I'm thinking it only includes people you'd imagine to be in a position not so unlike your own (ie comparable). And Red? That's a minority of humanity.
OK go right ahead and smash capitalism today. Then get back to me on who you are going to buy your solar panels from. Or any of the myriad goods and services we will need to build carbon zero economies for 7b people in the next few decades.
Who can I buy my solar panels from today Red? And where can I get that double glazing from? Or any of the other (soon to be) basic necessities in a 'globally warmed' world?
I can't afford jack shit.
Truth be told, if 10 years ago I reckoned I'd live to be 80+ (all things being equal), with the apparently accelerating effects of AGW, I think it's entirely reasonable to contemplate popping well before my 80s during an extended heatwave in the not too distant.
No single system can be relied upon, indeed the marxist economies were notably poor at it as well. Again don't pull the false dichotomy on me, I'm not arguing capitalism can exist in a moral or political vacuum. That's the libertarian mistake, and not even Adam Smith argued for that.
I think you're attributing benefits that may have happened despite capitalism to capitalism, and problems capitalism was solely responsible for to things other than capitalism. Has agriculture been boosted more by terminator seeds, or by government investment in irrigation projects?
NZ agriculture is still reaping the benefits of govt crop advances made when 2/3 of people worked for the government, but capitalism has no interest in funding and building infrastructure.
Capitalism is expendable but sadly unavoidable. Government is not expendable, but frequently degraded or absent.
Far too late if the intention was to be "not clattered" by the effects of global warming.
The priests (economists and politicians in their service) 'led us' over a cliff edge. There be many who are turning to those very same sources and asking that they send up prayers or what nots – looking for them to formulate and deliver a plan that we might follow. (eg – A Green New Deal)
The priests took us off this cliff edge. The question is around what's to be done when the top of the cliff's up there? Pretend the wind in the hair is because we're flying? That's the notion the priests and all the believers and not a few agnostics are hanging on to 🙂
The climate change debacle provides us with a profound lesson; that extremists at both ends of a debate can and will derail effective action.
By contrast the ozone CFC depletion problem did not involve big powerful interests out to defend their profits, nor ideological lefties yelling catastropohism and determined to thereby 'smash capitalism'. It was dealt to firmly and with remarkable efficiency.
Of course fossil CO2 was always going to be a much bigger problem, but we could have made far better progress towards solving it if the debate had not become so political and intensely polarised.
The extremists are today's economists and politicians – if slavish adherence to an political/economic theory that's laying waste to a planet's biosphere doesn't clear the bar for being reasonably viewed as a member of a death cult, then nothing does.
Now you can finger point, and you can smear, and you can wave your arms all you like, but that cliff edge is way up there and we're traveling in a singular direction at quite a clip, thanks entirely to industrial capitalism.
And ICI went to great lengths to stop movement on CFC (it was their gravy train requiring a high tech solution from ICI, except it wasn't 😉 )
Yet you are only alive and commenting on the internet because of this same industrial capitalism. Quite the conundrum really.
Oh and the Australians would have had a price on carbon a decade ago, if the Greens had not scuppered it with an idiotic insistence that Rudd’s scheme was ‘not good enough’. Plenty of ideologues to go around.
I'm alive, not because of industrial capitalism, but because a woman got pregnant and gave birth to me. Now, would there be an internet without capitalism? Possibly (no compelling reason why not). Would I be commenting on global warming in that case? Probably not.
Australians, carbon prices….what!? Carbon prices do not impact on the use of carbon based fuel. The studies have been done and I've previously highlighted those studies in posts I've done for 'the standard'.
but because a woman got pregnant and gave birth to me.
In 1800's Victorian England the life expectancy was around 36 years. I'm assuming you and I are somewhat older than this.
As for carbon pricing … tell this to the Australian Greens who were demanding more of it. And as is usual with anything climate related the answer is 'complicated'.
But my point was not that carbon pricing is any kind of silver bullet, but that ideologues in the Australian Green Party literally hung two Labour PM's out to dry on climate change, and thereby opened the door to Tony Abbott and a decade of political toxicity. ScoMo is merely the latest installment in this debacle. All when Rudd had virtually achieved a bi-partisan agreement in principle.
I wonder what happened to life expectancy immediately prior to enclosure and immediately after. You reckon it went up? All that coal mining and those city slums and cotton mills in lieu of land where people could grow food probably worked 'wonders' on that front, aye?
I don't think you are claiming that modern life expectancies are somehow lower than 200 years ago. Of course there is no rule that says progress is a neat, linear affair with no setbacks. For instance the one group in the USA with declining life expectancy right now is white working age males. (Please keep the cheering polite and subdued /sarc).
Yet here we are globally where life expectancy is typically double what it was 200 years ago. Over a period when our total population increased around 7 fold. All this in the context of a highly scientific, technical, industrialised economies based largely on a mix of capitalist and social policies. That's not too shabby really.
PS. And that’s it from me for now. Best wishes to you all personally. We live in very interesting times and I truly wish nothing but the best for you all. There is so much risk and opportunity all muddled up right now; it’s not easy wading through this.
"By contrast the ozone CFC depletion problem did not involve big powerful interests out to defend their profits" – really?
But the Rowland-Molina hypothesis was strongly disputed by representatives of the aerosol and halocarbon industries. The chair of the board of DuPont was quoted as saying that ozone depletion theory is “a science fiction tale…a load of rubbish…utter nonsense“. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol
So what. Very quickly the science prevailed. Of course ICI and Dupont had every reason to defend their interests, and it's entirely unsurprising they would attempt to do so. But in this case they soon realised they had some perfectly acceptable technical alternatives, that not only solved the problem, but represented a decent commercial opportunity.
The reality is there wasn't a decade or so of funding directed at mass disinformation campaigns undermining the Montreal Protocol remotely comparable to the fossil carbon story. Or if there was I sure didn't notice it.
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TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Thursday, July 25 are:News: Why Electric Kiwi is closing to new customers - and why it matters RNZ’s Susan EdmundsScoop: Government drops ...
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Yesterday I happily quoted the Prime Minister without fact-checking him and sure enough, it turns out his numbers were all to hell. It’s not four kg of Royal Commission report, it’s fourteen.My friend and one-time colleague-in-comms Hazel Phillips gently alerted me to my error almost as soon as I’d hit ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Thursday, July 25, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day were:The Abuse in Care Royal Commission of Inquirypublished its final report yesterday.PM Christopher Luxon and The Minister responsible for ...
The Official Information Act has always been a battle between requesters seeking information, and governments seeking to control it. Information is power, so Ministers and government agencies want to manage what is released and when, for their own convenience, and legality and democracy be damned. Their most recent tactic for ...
TL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy today are:Transport and Energy Minister Simeon Brown is accelerating plans to spend at least $10 billion through Public Private Partnerships (PPPs) to extend State Highway One as a four-lane ‘Expressway’ from Warkworth to Whangarei ...
I live my life (woo-ooh-ooh)With no control in my destinyYea-yeah, yea-yeah (woo-ooh-ooh)I can bleed when I want to bleedSo come on, come on (woo-ooh-ooh)You can bleed when you want to bleedYea-yeah, come on (woo-ooh-ooh)Everybody bleed when they want to bleedCome on and bleedGovernments face tough challenges. Selling unpopular decisions to ...
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Given the crackdown on wasteful government spending, it behooves me to point to a high profile example of spending by the Luxon government that looks like a big, fat waste of time and money. I’m talking about the deployment of NZDF personnel to support the US-led coalition in the Red ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:40 am on Wednesday, July 24 are:Deep Dive: Chipping away at the housing crisis, including my comments RNZ/Newsroom’s The DetailNews: Government softens on asset sales, ...
As I reported about the city centre, Auckland’s rail network is also going through a difficult and disruptive period which is rapidly approaching a culmination, this will result in a significant upgrade to the whole network. Hallelujah. Also like the city centre this is an upgrade predicated on the City ...
Today, a 4 kilogram report will be delivered to Parliament. We know this is what the report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care weighs, because our Prime Minister told us so.Some reporter had blindsided him by asking a question about something done by ...
TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Wednesday, July 24, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Beehive:Transport Minister Simeon Brownannounced plans to use PPPs to fund, build and run a four-lane expressway between Auckland ...
NewstalkZB host Mike Hosking, who can usually be relied on to give Prime Minister Christopher Luxon an easy run, did not do so yesterday when he interviewed him about the HealthNZ deficit. Luxon is trying to use a deficit reported last year by HealthNZ as yet another example of the ...
Back in January a StatsNZ employee gave a speech at Rātana on behalf of tangata whenua in which he insulted and criticised the government. The speech clearly violated the principle of a neutral public service, and StatsNZ started an investigation. Part of that was getting an external consultant to examine ...
Renting for life: Shared ownership initiatives are unlikely to slow the slide in home ownership by much. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy today are:A Deloittereport for Westpac has projected Aotearoa’s home-ownership rate will ...
You're broken down and tiredOf living life on a merry go roundAnd you can't find the fighterBut I see it in you so we gonna walk it outAnd move mountainsWe gonna walk it outAnd move mountainsAnd I'll rise upI'll rise like the dayI'll rise upI'll rise unafraidI'll rise upAnd I'll ...
There’s been a change in Myers Park. Down the steps from St. Kevin’s Arcade, past the grassy slopes, the children’s playground, the benches and that goat statue, there has been a transformation. The underpass for Mayoral Drive has gone from a barren, grey, concrete tunnel, to a place that thrums ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections Global society may have finally slammed on the brakes for climate-warming pollution released by human fossil fuel combustion. According to the Carbon Monitor Project, the total global climate pollution released between February and May 2024 declined slightly from the amount released during the same ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Tuesday, July 23 are:Deep Dive: Penlink: where tolling rhetoric meets reality BusinessDesk-$$$’sOliver LewisScoop:Te Pūkenga plans for regional polytechs leak out ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Tuesday, July 23, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Health: Shane Reti announcedthe Board of Te Whatu Ora-Health New Zealand was being replaced with Commissioner Lester Levy ...
Health NZ warned the Government at the end of March that it was running over Budget. But the reasons it gave were very different to those offered by the Prime Minister yesterday. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon blamed the “botched merger” of the 20 District Health Boards (DHBs) to create Health ...
Long ReadKey Summary: Although National increased the health budget by $1.4 billion in May, they used an old funding model to project health system costs, and never bothered to update their pre-election numbers. They were told during the Health Select Committees earlier in the year their budget amount was deficient, ...
As a momentous, historic weekend in US politics unfolded, analysts and commentators grasped for precedents and comparisons to help explain the significance and power of the choice Joe Biden had made. The 46th president had swept the Democratic party’s primaries but just over 100 days from the election had chosen ...
TL;DR: I’m casting around for new ideas and ways of thinking about Aotearoa’s political economy to find a few solutions to our cascading and self-reinforcing housing, poverty and climate crises.Associate Professor runs an online masters degree in the economics of sustainability at Torrens University in Australia and is organising ...
The Finance and Expenditure Committee has reported back on National's Local Government (Water Services Preliminary Arrangements) Bill. The bill sets up water for privatisation, and was introduced under urgency, then rammed through select committee with no time even for local councils to make a proper submission. Naturally, national's select committee ...
Some years ago, I bought a book at Dunedin’s Regent Booksale for $1.50. As one does. Vandrad the Viking (1898), by J. Storer Clouston, is an obscure book these days – I cannot find a proper online review – but soon it was sitting on my shelf, gathering dust alongside ...
History is not on the side of the centre-left, when Democratic presidents fall behind in the polls and choose not to run for re-election. On both previous occasions in the past 75 years (Harry Truman in 1952, Lyndon Johnson in 1968) the Democrats proceeded to then lose the White House ...
This is a free articleCoverageThis morning, US President Joe Biden announced his withdrawal from the Presidential race. And that is genuinely newsworthy. Thanks for your service, President Biden, and all the best to you and yours.However, the media in New Zealand, particularly the 1News nightly bulletin, has been breathlessly covering ...
A homeless person’s camp beside a blocked-off slipped damage walkway in Freeman’s Bay: we are chasing our tail on our worsening and inter-related housing, poverty and climate crises. Photo: Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy ...
What has happened to it all?Crazy, some'd sayWhere is the life that I recognise?(Gone away)But I won't cry for yesterdayThere's an ordinary worldSomehow I have to findAnd as I try to make my wayTo the ordinary worldYesterday morning began as many others - what to write about today? I began ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Monday, July 22 are:Today’s Must Read: Father and son live in a tent, and have done for four years, in a million ...
TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Monday, July 22, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:US President Joe Biden announced via X this morning he would not stand for a second term.Multinational professional services firm ...
A listing of 32 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, July 14, 2024 thru Sat, July 20, 2024. Story of the week As reflected by preponderance of coverage, our Story of the Week is Project 2025. Until now traveling ...
This weekend, a friend pointed out someone who said they’d like to read my posts, but didn’t want to pay. And my first reaction was sympathy.I’ve already told folks that if they can’t comfortably subscribe, and would like to read, I’d be happy to offer free subscriptions. I don’t want ...
National: The Party of ‘Law and Order’ IntroductionThis weekend, the Government formally kicked off one of their flagship policy programs: a military style boot camp that New Zealand has experimented with over the past 50 years. Cartoon credit: Guy BodyIt’s very popular with the National Party’s Law and Orderimage, ...
Day one of the solo leg of my long journey home begins with my favourite sound: footfalls in an empty street. 5.00 am and it’s already light and already too warm, almost.If I can make the train that leaves Budapest later this hour I could be in Belgrade by nightfall; ...
Do you remember Y2K, the threat that hung over humanity in the closing days of the twentieth century? Horror scenarios of planes falling from the sky, electronic payments failing and ATMs refusing to dispense cash. As for your VCR following instructions and recording your favourite show - forget about it.All ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts being questioned by The Kākā’s Bernard Hickey.TL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the week to July 20 were:1. A strategy that fails Zero Carbon Act & Paris targetsThe National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government finally unveiled ...
Summary:As New Zealand loses at least 12 leaders in the public service space of health, climate, and pharmaceuticals, this month alone, directly in response to the Government’s policies and budget choices, what lies ahead may be darker than it appears. Tui examines some of those departures and draws a long ...
The Minister of Housing’s ambition is to reduce markedly the ratio of house prices to household incomes. If his strategy works it would transform the housing market, dramatically changing the prospects of housing as an investment.Leaving aside the Minister’s metaphor of ‘flooding the market’ I do not see how the ...
As previously noted, my historical fantasy piece, set in the fifth-century Mediterranean, was accepted for a Pirate Horror anthology, only for the anthology to later fall through. But in a good bit of news, it turned out that the story could indeed be re-marketed as sword and sorcery. As of ...
An employee of tobacco company Philip Morris International demonstrates a heated tobacco device. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy on Friday, July 19 are:At a time when the Coalition Government is cutting spending on health, infrastructure, education, housing ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 8:30 am on Friday, July 19 are:Scoop: NZ First Minister Casey Costello orders 50% cut to excise tax on heated tobacco products. The minister has ...
Kia ora, it’s time for another Friday roundup, in which we pull together some of the links and stories that caught our eye this week. Feel free to add more in the comments! Our header image this week shows a foggy day in Auckland town, captured by Patrick Reynolds. ...
TL;DR : Here’s the top six items climate news for Aotearoa this week, as selected by Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent Cathrine Dyer. A discussion recorded yesterday is in the video above and the audio of that sent onto the podcast feed.The Government released its draft Emissions Reduction ...
Save some money, get rich and old, bring it back to Tobacco Road.Bring that dynamite and a crane, blow it up, start all over again.Roll up. Roll up. Or tailor made, if you prefer...Whether you’re selling ciggies, digging for gold, catching dolphins in your nets, or encouraging folks to flutter ...
Waiting In The Wings:For truly, if Trump is America’s un-assassinated Caesar, then J.D. Vance is America’s Octavian, the Republic’s youthful undertaker – and its first Emperor.DONALD TRUMP’S SELECTION of James D. Vance as his running-mate bodes ill for the American republic. A fervent supporter of Viktor Orban, the “illiberal” prime ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Friday, July 19, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:The PSAannounced the Employment Relations Authority (ERA) had ruled in the PSA’s favour in its case against the Ministry ...
TL;DR: The podcast above of the weekly ‘hoon’ webinar for paying subscribers last night features co-hosts and talking with:The Kākā’s climate correspondent talking about the National-ACT-NZ First Government’s release of its first Emissions Reduction Plan;University of Otago Foreign Relations Professor and special guest Dr Karin von ...
Open access notablesImproving global temperature datasets to better account for non-uniform warming, Calvert, Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society:To better account for spatial non-uniform trends in warming, a new GITD [global instrumental temperature dataset] was created that used maximum likelihood estimation (MLE) to combine the land surface ...
A late change to charter school legislation will cheat educators out of fair pay and negotiating power proving charter schools are just a vehicle to make profit out of our education system. ...
In 2004 te iwi Māori rallied against the Crown’s attempt to confiscate our coastlines and moana with the Foreshore and Seabed Act. This led to the largest hīkoi of a generation and the birth of Te Pāti Māori. 20 years later, history is repeating itself. Today the government has announced ...
It has been five and a half years since the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care was established to investigate the abuse of children, young people, and vulnerable adults within state and faith-based institutions. Yesterday, the final report - Whanaketia through pain and trauma, from darkness to light ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to take action off the back of the International Court of Justice ruling on Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine. ...
On Friday the International Court of Justice reaffirmed what Palestinian’s have been telling us for decades: that the occupation and colonisation of Palestinian lands by Israel is illegal and must end immediately. They also called for reparations for Palestinian’s who have lived under Israeli occupation since it began in 1967. ...
Labour calls on the Government to act after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territories is illegal. ...
The 53.7 percent rise in benefit sanctions over the last year is more proof of this Government’s disdain for our communities most in need of support. ...
Aotearoa could be a country where every child grows up feeling safe, loved and with a sense of belonging in their whānau and community. But for some of our children, this is far from reality. Instead, they are trapped in a maze of intergenerational harm that they can’t escape on ...
Te Pāti Māori are calling for David Seymour to resign as Associate Health Minister in response to his call for Pharmac to ignore the Treaty of Waitangi. “This announcement is just another example of the government’s anti-Tiriti, anti-Māori agenda.” Said Co-leader and spokesperson for health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. “Seymour thinks it ...
The soaring price of renting is driving the rise of inflation in this country - with latest figures from Stats NZ showing rents are up 4.8 per cent on average while annual inflation is at 3.3 per cent. ...
National’s Emissions Reduction Plan will take New Zealand further from the economy we need to ensure the next generation has a stable climate and secure livelihoods. ...
Following consultation with named parties and thorough consideration of privacy interests, the Green Party is in a position to release the Executive Summary of the final report from the independent investigation into Darleen Tana. ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon should be asking serious questions of his Minister for Resources Shane Jones now it’s been revealed he misled the public about a dinner with mining companies that he didn’t declare and said wasn’t pre-arranged. ...
Te Pāti Māori have submitted to the Justice Select Committee against the Sentencing (Reinstating Three Strikes) Amendment Bill. The bill will further entrench racism in our justice system and fails to focus on rehabilitation. “Reinstating Three Strikes will empower a systematically racist system and exacerbate the overrepresentation of Māori in ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee is set to make a determination on the Residential Tenancies Amendment (RTA) Bill in the coming weeks. “This legislation will give landlords the power to kick our whānau out onto the street for no reason” said Housing spokesperson, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “Their solution to the housing ...
“National’s campaign was about tackling crime and the best they can do is a two-year long Ministerial Advisory Group,” Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
“There are more examples of charter schools failing their students than there are success stories. The coalition Government is driving to dismantle our public school system and instead promote a privatised, competitive structure that puts profits before kids,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
“This government is choosing to deliberately mislead and withhold information, keeping our people in the dark about this government’s agenda and the future of our mokopuna,” said co-leader and spokesperson for Health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. The call comes after the demand from the Chief Ombudsman that Associate Minister of Health, Casey ...
“Today’s climate announcement by Simon Watts makes clear the National Government is simply paying lip service to meeting its climate change targets,” Megan Woods said. ...
National is choosing to make life harder for workers by taking away the rights our communities have fought hard for. Here's how they’re taking workers backwards. ...
Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on the need for an urgent ceasefire in Gaza and the risk of expanded conflict between Hizballah and Israel. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue. We remain unequivocal in our condemnation of ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today reminded all State and faith-based institutions of their legal obligation to preserve records relevant to the safety and wellbeing of those in its care. “The Abuse in Care Inquiry’s report has found cases where records of the most vulnerable people in State and faith‑based institutions were ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government’s online safety website for children and young people has reached one million page views. “It is great to see so many young people and their families accessing the site Keep It Real Online to learn how to stay safe online, and manage ...
Tēnā tātou katoa, Ngā mihi te rangi, ngā mihi te whenua, ngā mihi ki a koutou, kia ora mai koutou. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and the invitation to speak at this 50th anniversary conference. I acknowledge all those who have gone before us and paved the ...
New Zealand’s payroll providers have successfully prepared to ensure 3.5 million individuals will, from Wednesday next week, be able to keep more of what they earn each pay, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Revenue Minister Simon Watts. “The Government's tax policy changes are legally effective from Wednesday. Delivering this tax ...
An experimental vineyard which will help futureproof the wine sector has been opened in Blenheim by Associate Regional Development Minister Mark Patterson. The covered vineyard, based at the New Zealand Wine Centre – Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa, enables controlled environmental conditions. “The research that will be produced at the Experimental ...
The Coalition Government has confirmed the indicative regional breakdown of North Island Weather Event (NIWE) funding for state highway recovery projects funded through Budget 2024, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Regions in the North Island suffered extensive and devastating damage from Cyclone Gabrielle and the 2023 Auckland Anniversary Floods, and ...
Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Retno Marsudi, will visit New Zealand next week, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “Indonesia is important to New Zealand’s security and economic interests and is our closest South East Asian neighbour,” says Mr Peters, who is currently in Laos to engage with South East Asian partners. ...
He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting the aspirations of Ngāti Maniapoto, Minister for Māori Development Tama Potaka says. “My thanks to Te Nehenehenui Trust – Ngāti Maniapoto for bringing their important kōrero to a ministerial ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has thanked outgoing Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority, Janice Fredric, for her service to the board.“I have received Ms Fredric’s resignation from the role of Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority,” Mr Brown says.“On behalf of the Government, I want to thank Ms Fredric for ...
The Government is proposing legislation to overturn a Court of Appeal decision and amend the Marine and Coastal Area Act in order to restore Parliament’s test for Customary Marine Title, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Section 58 required an applicant group to prove they have exclusively used and occupied ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour says that opposition parties have united in bad faith, opposing what they claim are ‘dangerous changes’ to the Early Childhood Education sector, despite no changes even being proposed yet. “Issues with affordability and availability of early childhood education, and the complexity of its regulation, has led ...
After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks. “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. At the heart of this report are the ...
For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024. “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane. “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says. “This will be our third visit to ...
Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today. “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum. While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation. “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan. “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
Acting Prime Minister David Seymour has been in contact throughout the evening with senior officials who have coordinated a whole of government response to the global IT outage and can provide an update. The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet has designated the National Emergency Management Agency as the ...
New Zealand and Japan will continue to step up their shared engagement with the Pacific, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “New Zealand and Japan have a strong, shared interest in a free, open and stable Pacific Islands region,” Mr Peters says. “We are pleased to be finding more ways ...
New developments in the heart of North Island forestry country will reinvigorate their communities and boost economic development, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones visited Kaingaroa and Kawerau in Bay of Plenty today to open a landmark community centre in the former and a new connecting road in ...
President Adeang, fellow Ministers, honourable Diet Member Horii, Ambassadors, distinguished guests. Minasama, konnichiwa, and good afternoon, everyone. Distinguished guests, it’s a pleasure to be here with you today to talk about New Zealand’s foreign policy reset, the reasons for it, the values that underpin it, and how it ...
Comment: After Climate Change Minister Simon Watts’ preview several weeks ago, I had some optimism about the Government’s emissions reduction plan. Now I’ve read the discussion document, that hope has been dashed. How can the Government propose a plan that wants to take New Zealand taxpayers’ hard-earned money, and spend ...
Christopher Luxon: hurdles The little man from National jumps hurdles in his sleep. He’s quite good at it in his dreams and even though the reality doesn’t quite match up you have to give him credit for getting up every morning and crashing into the very first hurdle of the ...
Comment: It was a good two hours into the conversation when Tyrone Marks raised the most basic of questions when I first spoke to him in 2017. “They didn’t explain the things they did to me. They never told me why. And they still haven’t. There’s no explanation for it. ...
Last summer when Matairangi burned, Ginny and Tom stood at the window of their lounge, watching kākā shoot skyward from the burning trees. From the distance, they looked to Ginny like pages torn from books and thrown into a bonfire. It was Tom, voice tight, who told her it was ...
Opinion: The Canadian short story writer Alice Munro – winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2013 – died in May at the age of 92. Her work was about “the damage people inflict on one another in the name of love”, Deborah Treisman wrote in the New Yorker. ...
This month marks two years since the most powerful telescope ever built sent its first pictures back to earth. From its lofty vantage point, beyond the moon in orbit around the sun, the James Webb Space Telescope was tuned to observe the first stars and galaxies being born soon after ...
Madeleine Chapman rounds out Death Week on The Spinoff with a final recommendation. You can read all of our Death Week coverage here. Nothing forces you to reflect on your life and relationships quite like proximity to death. For those whose nearest and dearest have died, there are reasonably obvious ...
Whitney Greene takes us through her life in television, including the TV character she’d like to plan a funeral for and her cow lung catastrophe on The Traitors NZ. “If the phone rings, I have to answer it,” Whitney Greene from The Traitors NZ warns as we begin our My ...
Maddie Ballard reviews the debut essay collection of Pōneke writer Flora Feltham.In ‘The Raw Material’, the longest essay in Flora Feltham’s dazzling debut collection, the author heads out for a run after hours of weaving and sees the world turn to textile. “Pounding along the Parade, I saw the ...
Andy Christiansen, one half of the experimental rock-pop duo TRiPS, shares the tunes inspiring the band’s perfect weekend and new release. “Good speakers, good food, good music, no distractions”: that’s all you need to enjoy the psychedelic stylings of TRiPS, a new band formed by Fly My Pretties’ Barnaby Weir ...
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They can't say they didn't know.
If there is ever a Nuremberg type trial for those charged with committing ecocidal crimes against the climate, Scott Morrison's name will be read out at the top of the charge sheet.
Great articles. In the meantime the politicians like this country let other countries to bottle and export their water, no doubt in environmentally damaging plastic bottles. Someone making a quick buck is more important than looking after the environment or your own people first.
Tragic to read that about 30% of the koalas have died, and other wildlife has also been devastated. It will never recover as we can expect this shit to continue now year after year after year. In fact Oz will become a hostile place to live. No longer a holiday destination for us as we loved the bush but now too dangerous to have out back type holidays
It is a pity that it wasn't 30% of the politicians and large corporates of this world that suffered if they did the problems would start to be fixed overnight.
https://qz.com/1776800/chinese-company-gets-approval-to-bottle-water-from-drought-plagued-australian-town/
Those Aussie councils seem very corrupt. There needs to be a law prohibiting Chinese or anyone from exporting water, preferably criminal. Now.
To be honest, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the Aussies who keep voting those dinosaurs back into power. They are getting what they deserve. The unfortunate side effect: the undeserving are copping it too.
As for the wild life – it is too upsetting to even think about.
Indeed (as far as the sympathy bit goes). It's becoming harder and harder to feel anything for the willfully and intentionally ignorant.
The undeserving are copping it everywhere – so as I said yesterday, things might have to get worse before they get better. In the scheme of things – so be it.
It's even worse when you consider the okkers have compulsory voting. But guess what (what OWT?). Expect a load of Australian and British refugees (due to climate denial and Brexit respectively), and they won't be considered "queue jumpers" or "economic migrants", and they won't be coming in boats either.
great articles…..i despair that folks will wake up…..
Shock and awe
Gaze on this image of the Australian fires spewing smoke into the sky taken by a Japanese satellite.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/118545776/massive-currents-of-smoke-from-australian-fires-reach-new-zealand
Viewing the docudrama Chernobyl on Prime TV a few weeks ago one of the most shocking aspects of the disaster apart from the disaster itself was how the Soviet authorities down played it.
Reminiscent of the fire crisis in Australia and how the authorities there try to down play it.
Despite the efforts of the Soviet authorities to downplay the true full horror of the Chernobyl disaster, the truth was revealed to the world by American satellite images that showed the Chernobyl reactor core open to the sky spewing radiation across Europe.
Luckily for us, the dense plume of smoke from the Australian bush fires, revealed by the Japanese satellite to be big enough to blanket the whole of the South Island, is passing just below the bottom of our country.
It's made the air in Wanaka into a milky orange. Eerie.
The smoke is very much blanketing Whakatipu. Can't see the other side of the lake, and tops of mountains around town are up in the murk. Some street lights are on, there's no sun and a strange diffused yellow light. And it's quite windy, whitecaps on the lake.
Weird yellow sunlight and clouds in Christchurch too.
Dark and yellow in Dunedin, midday everyone is driving with headlights on, air smells smoky, can feel grit on my fingers, it's very strange and unnerving.
Fully over the South Island now.
https://twitter.com/zentree/status/1212118125170135041
Well-crafted thread joins the dots from mad skies to action (click on the tweet to read the rest of them):
https://twitter.com/REasther/status/1212136583865888768
wow, that is a seriously good thread.
Very talented chap. We are lucky to have him back.
what does he do?
Astrophysics, mainly https://unidirectory.auckland.ac.nz/people/profile/r-easther
OK so many people on this site probably find me to be an entrenched bore, which is also probably true, but I'm not apologizing for having firm views, that's how I roll..but seeming as it's the new year and all, here is a little gift from the beautiful archives of the classic period of American Public Access TV…enjoy, and hope you all have a great and happy years ahead..
Did Nero really play the fiddle while Rome burned?
Did Scott Morrison really holiday in Hawaii while Australia burned?
Gaze on the weirdly manic images all over the internet of Scott Morrison with a wreath of Hawaiian flowers crowning his forehead, while Australian burned, and not be awed with the eerie similarity with ancient and modern images of of Nero depicted with a wreath of laurels on his forehead while Rome burned.
Historians cannot agree whether the ancient written written accounts that Roman Emperor Nero fiddled while Rome burned are accurate, or were just repeating contemporary mischievous gossip.
But modern recording technology and the internet will leave no doubt for future historians to determine that Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison did indeed holiday in Hawaii while Australia burned.
https://www.mamamia.com.au/scott-morrison-in-hawaii
Plenty of scope for Labor to act as well since they are in power in most of the states.
The 'fiddling' that Nero did is actually the equivalent of twiddling his thumbs, and not playing a musical instrument as often depicted in literature.
Either way, the person who chose the still shot for the above video was a lyre…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/31/new-zealands-year-of-style-over-substance
'Last week Beehive insiders told leading political journalists that the “Year of Delivery” promise was actually a spin-line produced on the fly by the PM’s top spin doctor to get his boss out of a tight situation when she needed something memorable to say at the start of 2019.'
Ouch…
Shock horror politican uses spin doctor.!!!!
She should have shrugged her shoulders and said shes akshully relaxed about it .
I guess the real problem is that, like Kiwibuild, some silly voters might akshully expect her to, I don't know, produce something
Maybe
It's a bit hard to do anything when your lot make out modest changes to our system as a Bolshevik revolution.
So just to be clear you're saying that the COLs failure is because of National/Act, the opposition, whose job it is to oppose the COL is opposing the COL successfully
Huh well ok, that's an…interesting take on it I suppose
So dirty politics is the role of opposition? Is National really presenting itself as a credible government in waiting?
They've built a few state houses puckeroni, your lot'll be able to sell them when they get back in.
Kiwibuild is still building plus thousands of state houses have been built with more under construction, that's producing something is it not?
Not to mention the billion trees are well on schedule.
They have a schedule? I thought it was more of an intention or something
A hundred and fifty million and counting.
Figure 1 in the cabinet paper linked on that page is a bar chart that looks to be scheduling roughly 160mill total 2018 and 2019. So progress is looking reasonable.
Oh, and there's actual progress on my local hospital, so that's another one.
Never a good sign, a political organisation being so bereft of strategic nous that it falls to a comms person to invent a focus.
Also never a good sign when it comes from the Guardian
from Bryce Edwards
Good spotting
Take anything that Bryce Edwards says with a large dose of salt.
According to the Edwards' piece, "…Beehive insiders told leading political journalists that the “Year of Delivery” promise was actually a spin-line…"
Does that mean after the leading political journalists were told one of them told the other journalists such as Edwards?
Where's the proof? its just hearsay isn't?
I haven't read the Edwards' piece because as soon as I saw it was him I didn't bother.
But it sounds like a made-up bit of tosh. Part of the DP election strategy the Nats have chosen to run with. Hope it ends up biting them so hard on the bum they'll be yelping for years afterwards.
Is it climate change, or geoengineering that is accelerating climate change? Be nice if geo' wasn't auto-dismissed especially when we NEED to know exactly how much impact (if any) this is having so we can follow up with solutions.
Indisputable are the patents for weather modification + measurable aluminum where it should not be..whales, bees, rainwater….
Good thing is that if it is a major issue it can be halted immediately, delaying our rapidly approaching demise.
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[no climate denial under my posts please – weka]
Tinfoil, literally?
Anat Shenker-Osoroio's mop of hair probably generates its own heat & is a climate change threat. She needs Greta with a large razor to trim it while Greta dissess her with statements like "You have ruined my dreams” "I will never forgive you"
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You forgot "how dare you"
Thanks for sharing that ‘classic‘ example of Thunberg belittlement PR – can see why it tickled your fancy. TIME's person of the year (2019) will be cut to the quick.
https://time.com/person-of-the-year-2019-greta-thunberg/
Can't wait for the Adani coal basin development to ‘come online‘ – more coal than you can shake a stick at, I reckon! Looking forward to longer-lasting magical yellow skies.
https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/south-wakes-yellow-skies
She joins an illustrious group all right, I'd certainly want to be associated with them:
Adolf Hitler: TIME's person of the year 1938
Joseph Stalin: TIME's person of the year 1939 & 1942
Ruhollah Khomeini: TIME's person of the year 1979
PR, did you select Hitler/Stalin/Khomeini from a longer list, and (if so), what were your selection criteria?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year#Persons_of_the_Year
No need to answer; not surprised that you would choose to associate Thunberg with Hitler and Stalin. IMHO 1988 and 2011 would be better and more accurate choices.
Still, five days left for your Epiphany
Pucky! You're being silly! Thought you'd moved beyond…
Sorry, I just can't and won't accept beratement from a teenager
Dismissing the messenger is usually the easier option. Dismissing the people who listen and respond to the message is even easier.
Don't take that "beratement" personally – Thunberg doesn't know you exist. Fantastic to realise that she's been much much more influential in just one year than you and I will be in our entire lifetimes. What a wonderful world.
An inspiration to tens of millions. Yes yes, I know – "So was Hitler!"
That's OK. They will just work around you anyway.
There's really nothing more persuasive than seeing white men disparaging an autistic teenage girl on the Internet, right? That's the gold standard of persuasive argument right there.
As opposed to listening to the same teenager spouting nothing that hasn't been said and thinking shes the second coming
Shes got a couple of years (18 or 20) before the media tire of her and annoint a new, younger version
Same as the Olsen twins, Brittney, Lindsay, Christina, Mandy etc etc
But in the meantime, this teenage girl can experience everything the world's grumpy old men can throw at her, because she dared to stick out from the rest. Whatever gets you through the night, I guess.
Whodat bugga69?
The opportunity here is that the current bushfire crisis will push a larger number of the population to demand change and more people will then support movements like SS4C, and then the politicians will follow. This is how change happens.
That is very unlikely, as spending billions of dollars with no idea of what effect such expenditure will have is not something I'd recommend. Bjorn Lomborg has made the same point. And bushfires have been happening for decades. Many people possibly wouldn't be aware that there was a huge bushfire in Victoria in 1851 and there have been many large bushfires since.
https://www.ffm.vic.gov.au/history-and-incidents/past-bushfires
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I don’t allow climate denial under my posts. This has been well hashed out. Climate scientists and very experienced firefighters are saying you are wrong. These fires are unprecendented in scale, intensity and timing. This isn’t one large bushfire in one area, this is fires across the whole country and at times not normally experienced. And driving that is drought from climate change.
The economic cost of not acting will far, far outweigh any negatives to the economy now from climate action. But there is no good reason to not change the economy.
I don’t allow climate denial under my posts.
I'm not sure if you're referring to someone else as you would well know I'm not a climate denier.
The economic cost of not acting will far, far outweigh any negatives to the economy now from climate action.
Well, that is your opinion but it doesn’t appear to be based on fact. What is a fact is that spending large sums on an indeterminate outcome will mean less expenditure elsewhere.
perhaps you need to make your point clearer then, because it looked to me like you were saying Australia has always had fires, and there's no point in Australia reducing GHGs or taking serious action on CC.
"Well, that is your opinion but it doesn’t appear to be based on fact. What is a fact is that spending large sums on an indeterminate outcome will mean less expenditure elsewhere."
What's the indeterminate outcome?
What's the indeterminate outcome?
Spending billions or trillions of dollars and hoping for the best. That is the antithesis of science.
This year, the world will spend $US162 billion ($230bn) subsidising renewable energy, propping up inefficient industries and supporting middle-class homeowners to erect solar panels, according to the International Energy Agency. In addition, the Paris Agreement on climate change will cost the world from $US1 trillion to $US2 trillion a year by 2030. Astonishingly, neither of these hugely expensive policies will have any measurable impact on temperatures by the end of the century.
Climate campaigners want to convince us that not only should we maintain these staggering costs, but that we should spend a fortune more on climate change, since our very survival is allegedly at stake. But they are mostly wrong, and we’re likely to end up wasting trillions during the coming decades.
…
Over-the-top environmental activists are not only out of synch with the science but they also are out of touch with mainstream concerns. A global poll by the UN of nearly 10 million people found that climate change was the lowest priority of all 16 challenges considered. At the very top, unsurprisingly, are issues such as better education, better healthcare and access to nutritious food. We need to address climate change effectively — but we should remember that there are many other issues that people want fixed more urgently.
https://www.lomborg.com/news/how-to-spend-162bn-to-fix-climate-along-with-everything-else
I guess if we were to print money, we could possibly afford to waste trillions. But we likely won't be printing money – we'll simply be forgoing expenditure elsewhere (eg, health, welfare, education).
since our very survival is allegedly at stake. But they are mostly wrong, and we’re likely to end up wasting trillions during the coming decades.
Garden variety third generation climate denial right there.
Garden variety third generation climate denial right there.
If you say so.
In 2018, 10 million people contracted tuberculosis (TB) and 1.5 million people died from it. A lack of clean drinking water is estimated to cause about a half a million deaths each year. If only some of those trillions spent on climate change was spent elsewhere.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tuberculosis
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/drinking-water
162 billion USD!!!
"The International Monetary Fund periodically assesses global subsidies for fossil fuels as part of its work on climate, and it found in a recent working paper that the fossil fuel industry got a whopping $5.2 trillion in subsidies in 2017. This amounts to 6.4 percent of the global gross domestic product."
https://www.vox.com/2019/5/17/18624740/fossil-fuel-subsidies-climate-imf
Citing Lomborg does not help your claim.
So what has Lomborg said about climate change? From the link above:
"Global warming is a real, man-made problem…"
Hmmm mayhe's a Holocaust denier because he sure isn't a climate denier.
There are now three generations of CC denial:
1. The planet is not warming
2. The planet is warming but it is natural cycles not human activity
3. Human activity is part of the problem but only a small part and the consequences are greatly exaggerated
Solkta,
Your response is akin to anyone criticising Israel being labelled an anti-semite. Please try and engage meaningfully.
Lomborg is saying that climate change is a real problem but it's not the only problem. He's also saying that it would be foolish to throw vast sums of money at the problem when the expenditure is likely have little impact on climate. He also makes the point that renewables need to be much cheaper, and governments need to commit to making them cheaper.
Nobody here is interested in your smelly poos.
If you are no longer interested in participating in the discussion thread, just walk away and/or say so in the first person singular.
Actually solkta gave a clear summary of climate denial dynamics. Your comments look like a denialist position to me too.
Believing that lowering GHGs won't impact on CC, and advocating against action based on that, is a form of denial. It's dangerous too.
Actually solkta gave a clear summary of climate denial dynamics. Your comments look like a denialist position to me too.
You're wrong, Weka.
Feel free to make the argument about how I am wrong then. I can only go off what I am reading here.
Feel free to make the argument about how I am wrong then. I can only go off what I am reading here.
Well, I've commented here over several years – my views are well known.
To repeat: should we throw billions or trillions of dollars at a problem if we don't know what effect, if any, that spending will have? Lomborg claims it will have a negligible effect. Meanwhile, about two million people die each year from TB or a lack of clean drinking water. Some 400,000 people die each year from malaria.
"An estimated 6.3 million children under 15 years of age died in 2017, or 1 every 5 seconds, mostly of preventable causes, according to new mortality estimates released by UNICEF, the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations Population Division and the World Bank Group."
“Without urgent action, 56 million children under five will die from now until 2030 – half of them newborns,” said Laurence Chandy, UNICEF Director of Data, Research and Policy. “We have made remarkable progress to save children since 1990, but millions are still dying because of who they are and where they are born. With simple solutions like medicines, clean water, electricity and vaccines, we can change that reality for every child.”
These are huge numbers and greater than the number of deaths caused by climate change. Feel free to ignore these facts on the basis of climate denial. However, that would be unhelpful and wrong.
https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/child-under-15-dies-every-five-seconds-around-world-un-report
Sounds familiar. We shouldn't spend health budgets on reducing smoking while a single tuberculosis case remains untreated.
Lomborg claims it will have a negligible effect.
See, there's your problem right there. You're treating some Danish statistician as an authority on climate and then trying to argue from authority that we don't need to do anything about AGW. That looks like disingenuous AGW denial to the people on this thread, with good reason. You should consider a different approach if you want to post on weka's threads.
Sounds familiar. We shouldn't spend health budgets on reducing smoking while a single tuberculosis case remains untreated.
That's a weird response and completely misses the point I was making. We shouldn't be spending vast sums of money when we have no idea if that spending is going to have much if any impact. That is especially so when other significant problems exist which are resulting in considerable harm and death.
You're treating some Danish statistician as an authority on climate and then trying to argue from authority that we don't need to do anything about AGW.
Hmmm you'll have to point to where he or I say that we should do nothing about AGW. As for making a veiled threat about who should be posting on Weka's threads, those that have to bullshit to bolster their argument should go to Kiwiblog. 🙂
"should we throw billions or trillions of dollars at a problem if we don't know what effect, if any, that spending will have?"
I still don't know what you mean by that. Are you suggesting that lowering global GHG emissions won't effect the progression of climate change?
"As for making a veiled threat about who should be posting on Weka's threads, those that have to bullshit to bolster their argument should go to Kiwiblog."
I've long had a position of no climate denial under my posts. I've written about the why in the past. Sometimes I put a note at the end of the post, but unlike when I first started writing I generally don't need to now because there aren't as many deniers around (and those that are know better).
The onus is on commenters to demonstrate that they're not running denialist lines. I still haven't seen you do that.
Hopefully lombers has some ideas for addressing climate issues AND cleaning up water formerlyrossy?
Parting the waters, surely. Aim high.
For those interested in some context, https://grist.org/article/infamous/
And for those interested in why spending on climate change mitigation might be sensible (including one of the best cartoons on that): https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/climate-change-mitigation-co-benefits-1.5205552
Oprah Winfrey and the positivity click are out in force.
Think positive and the world is your oyster – funny how that has not worked for the last 40 odd years.
Although it keeps getting repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
and repeated.
The answer is not nice words, positive thoughts and good intentions.
The answer is to stop an ideology and system which is killing us.
The sad truth is that all the guns, bombs and nukes – are in the hands of the maniacs who are the biggest stakeholders to keep the ideology and system running.
Only option – stop
Stop driving, stop working, stop being part of the system. Just stop.
Too Soon…
[TheStandard: A moderator moved this comment to Open Mike as being off topic or irrelevant in the post it was made in. Be more careful in future.]
By all means adam, stop what you are doing. Turn off the power, the internet, the water and sewerage. Don't use the car, don't go to the supermarket … don't whatever you do go to the doctor or a hospital, call for the police or expect a lawyer to defend you.
And especially don't expect the emergency services to scrape your rotting carcass off the couch.
The point is you cannot stop, you are part of the world whether you like it or not. Stopping is not an option because you have basic needs that must be met, today, tomorrow and next week. Now I have no quibble with you having a vision of a different world, I have no problem at all with idealistic people. But you cannot get there if you starve today.
None of us can, and there are 7b people to feed, today and tomorrow.
Hey Red. At what point over the past few hundred years did the system of production and distribution we're tied into feed all of the world? Pretty sure it's been responsible for a lot of unnecessary starvation because. y'know, "the market". (Obvious eg – Irish people starved as food was exported from Ireland)
Individual action won't cut the mustard. But individual non compliance can contribute to making current arrangements unsustainable. So maybe I'll drive a car if I justify a reason for driving it. And if I determine that a car journey so a guy can make me use my time 'making useless widgets' so he can make money doesn't justify driving a car, then hey…and that Human Rights protection if the legal system considers my reasoning to be on a par with religious belief 🙂
But y'know, I'm a doctor or a nurse or a maintenance guy on crucial infrastructure….I'll drive to work if need be. 😉
And while I do that, society drops its use of carbon related energy by 15% per year…aided and abetted by all those guys refusing to chew carbon for the sake of some cunt making profit from useless widgets…
At what point over the past few hundred years did the system of production and distribution we're tied into feed all of the world?
The old 'demanding perfection' fallacy. Of course the system failed from time to time, yet in 1800 there were just over 1b people and we seriously struggled to feed them reliably. Famine and winter starvation was a stark reality for many. Now we are 7.5b and growing and the biggest problem we have relating to food is that too many of us eat too much.
Yes the bottom 1b humans still live precarious lives, but can you not see progress when it's literally on your plate daily?
Nor am I claiming the forms of economy we have today are perfect and sufficient; that would be insane. Of course there is much room for improvement. But I generally find that the best way to improve a complex machine is not to start with a wrecking ball. Especially not machines I don't fully understand, I'm dependent on, and I don't have a backup for.
The old 'demanding perfection' fallacy
No. I'm pointing out that capitalism has produced famines and prolonged famine because implementing the ideology takes precedence over confronting reality humanely. That's entirely different from saying capitalism didn't prevent hunger or famine.
But I generally find that the best way to improve a complex machine is not to start with a wrecking ball.
Sometimes a tweak here and an adjustment there will be all that's required – that's true. And sometimes reality demands a Copernican revolution. The trick is in recognising the nature of situation confronting you.
Famines and similar disasters long pre-dated capitalism, nor does it produce or prolong them by design. Otherwise why in such an intensely capitalist modern world are they now so comparatively rare? The problem with Ireland was not so much the market economy, but that the Irish people had lost political control over it.
And don't pull the black and white fallacy on me. I may be defending industrialised capitalism for what it has achieved, but I'm not advocating that it can exist divorced from social and political concerns, nor that it's current form is sufficient.
As for Copernicus, his revolution was entirely conceptual. It dramatically shifted our thinking, but on the day nothing changed. People still tilled fields, cooked meals and had babies as they always did. By contrast getting to carbon zero is going to demand a lot of complex, pragmatic change that will impact our daily lives. It's a totally different kind of problem, one that will not be solved with any kind of magical thinking or silver bullet. It will be one tricky damned thing after another, with lots of mistakes and missteps as usual.
Famines and similar disasters long pre-dated capitalism, nor does it produce or prolong them by design.
Of course famines have been around "since forever"! But capitalism does actually produce and prolong famines because of its inherent logic. If you don't like the Irish example, then let me give you the example of Tanzania (subject of the documentary "Darwin's Nightmare") – Nile Perch introduced to Lake Victoria, processed in a Japanese owned fish factory and exported to European restaurants by Russian cargo planes even as the local population starved. Such a shame the locals weren't rationally optimising economic units fruitfully engaging in neutral market transactions for food, eh?
Yes, the Copernican Revolution was conceptual in nature. But what is capitalism if not a concept?
Again your example in Tanzania is more about political failure than the market. One of the core primary duties of any modern government is to ensure food security for it's people. I wonder if that documentary examined the role of the Tanzanian government in this? And would I loose much money if I bet on a fair bit of official corruption somewhere in that sadly sordid loop?
But what is capitalism if not a concept?
Carbon zero may be an idea, but achieving it is not. It will demand a substantial rewiring of our entire industrial economy … while it continues to feed, clothe and protect us daily. I see that as an intensely practical undertaking. Conceptual my arse 🙂
So you've never seen the documentary but confidently state the famine was down to dodgy politics, not the rationale of economics. Watch it and then come back to me on the topic if you want.
I've never suggested that getting to zero carbon from fuel was anything other than a practical undertaking. What I said was that capitalism is just a concept – one that stands four square against any practical undertaking vis a vis global warming.
I'm also slightly curious as to who this "us" is that you're referring to. Does it include the people of Venezuela who are being starved or otherwise killed by the US led economic blockade of the country? Or does it include all the Iranians and/or Syrians who are being similarly denied basic requirements of life? Or the homeless in New York or London or Cairo or Auckland….does it include them? I'm thinking it only includes people you'd imagine to be in a position not so unlike your own (ie comparable). And Red? That's a minority of humanity.
OK go right ahead and smash capitalism today. Then get back to me on who you are going to buy your solar panels from. Or any of the myriad goods and services we will need to build carbon zero economies for 7b people in the next few decades.
Best wishes Bill.
Best wishes to you too Red.
Who can I buy my solar panels from today Red? And where can I get that double glazing from? Or any of the other (soon to be) basic necessities in a 'globally warmed' world?
I can't afford jack shit.
Truth be told, if 10 years ago I reckoned I'd live to be 80+ (all things being equal), with the apparently accelerating effects of AGW, I think it's entirely reasonable to contemplate popping well before my 80s during an extended heatwave in the not too distant.
Because capitalism can't be relied on to provide people's basic needs if there’sd a better buck to be made elsewhere.
No single system can be relied upon, indeed the marxist economies were notably poor at it as well. Again don't pull the false dichotomy on me, I'm not arguing capitalism can exist in a moral or political vacuum. That's the libertarian mistake, and not even Adam Smith argued for that.
I think you're attributing benefits that may have happened despite capitalism to capitalism, and problems capitalism was solely responsible for to things other than capitalism. Has agriculture been boosted more by terminator seeds, or by government investment in irrigation projects?
NZ agriculture is still reaping the benefits of govt crop advances made when 2/3 of people worked for the government, but capitalism has no interest in funding and building infrastructure.
Capitalism is expendable but sadly unavoidable. Government is not expendable, but frequently degraded or absent.
Too Soon…? lol Nope.
Far too late if the intention was to be "not clattered" by the effects of global warming.
The priests (economists and politicians in their service) 'led us' over a cliff edge. There be many who are turning to those very same sources and asking that they send up prayers or what nots – looking for them to formulate and deliver a plan that we might follow. (eg – A Green New Deal)
The priests took us off this cliff edge. The question is around what's to be done when the top of the cliff's up there? Pretend the wind in the hair is because we're flying? That's the notion the priests and all the believers and not a few agnostics are hanging on to 🙂
The climate change debacle provides us with a profound lesson; that extremists at both ends of a debate can and will derail effective action.
By contrast the ozone CFC depletion problem did not involve big powerful interests out to defend their profits, nor ideological lefties yelling catastropohism and determined to thereby 'smash capitalism'. It was dealt to firmly and with remarkable efficiency.
Of course fossil CO2 was always going to be a much bigger problem, but we could have made far better progress towards solving it if the debate had not become so political and intensely polarised.
The extremists are today's economists and politicians – if slavish adherence to an political/economic theory that's laying waste to a planet's biosphere doesn't clear the bar for being reasonably viewed as a member of a death cult, then nothing does.
Now you can finger point, and you can smear, and you can wave your arms all you like, but that cliff edge is way up there and we're traveling in a singular direction at quite a clip, thanks entirely to industrial capitalism.
And ICI went to great lengths to stop movement on CFC (it was their gravy train requiring a high tech solution from ICI, except it wasn't 😉 )
thanks entirely to industrial capitalism.
Yet you are only alive and commenting on the internet because of this same industrial capitalism. Quite the conundrum really.
Oh and the Australians would have had a price on carbon a decade ago, if the Greens had not scuppered it with an idiotic insistence that Rudd’s scheme was ‘not good enough’. Plenty of ideologues to go around.
Your supposed conundrum's a bit thin.
I'm alive, not because of industrial capitalism, but because a woman got pregnant and gave birth to me. Now, would there be an internet without capitalism? Possibly (no compelling reason why not). Would I be commenting on global warming in that case? Probably not.
Australians, carbon prices….what!? Carbon prices do not impact on the use of carbon based fuel. The studies have been done and I've previously highlighted those studies in posts I've done for 'the standard'.
but because a woman got pregnant and gave birth to me.
In 1800's Victorian England the life expectancy was around 36 years. I'm assuming you and I are somewhat older than this.
As for carbon pricing … tell this to the Australian Greens who were demanding more of it. And as is usual with anything climate related the answer is 'complicated'.
But my point was not that carbon pricing is any kind of silver bullet, but that ideologues in the Australian Green Party literally hung two Labour PM's out to dry on climate change, and thereby opened the door to Tony Abbott and a decade of political toxicity. ScoMo is merely the latest installment in this debacle. All when Rudd had virtually achieved a bi-partisan agreement in principle.
I wonder what happened to life expectancy immediately prior to enclosure and immediately after. You reckon it went up? All that coal mining and those city slums and cotton mills in lieu of land where people could grow food probably worked 'wonders' on that front, aye?
I don't think you are claiming that modern life expectancies are somehow lower than 200 years ago. Of course there is no rule that says progress is a neat, linear affair with no setbacks. For instance the one group in the USA with declining life expectancy right now is white working age males. (Please keep the cheering polite and subdued /sarc).
Yet here we are globally where life expectancy is typically double what it was 200 years ago. Over a period when our total population increased around 7 fold. All this in the context of a highly scientific, technical, industrialised economies based largely on a mix of capitalist and social policies. That's not too shabby really.
PS. And that’s it from me for now. Best wishes to you all personally. We live in very interesting times and I truly wish nothing but the best for you all. There is so much risk and opportunity all muddled up right now; it’s not easy wading through this.
"By contrast the ozone CFC depletion problem did not involve big powerful interests out to defend their profits" – really?
So what. Very quickly the science prevailed. Of course ICI and Dupont had every reason to defend their interests, and it's entirely unsurprising they would attempt to do so. But in this case they soon realised they had some perfectly acceptable technical alternatives, that not only solved the problem, but represented a decent commercial opportunity.
The reality is there wasn't a decade or so of funding directed at mass disinformation campaigns undermining the Montreal Protocol remotely comparable to the fossil carbon story. Or if there was I sure didn't notice it.
The quote is a directly relevant example of big powerful interests out to defend their profits – that’s “So what.”
What “the top 'golden' 1b” notice has, indeed, been largely a matter of choice. Maybe wealth will continue to be a good insulator.
This time next year, Simon Bridges could be the Prime Minister .
…in his dreams…
… in our nightmares.
Hate to say it, but I agree with you.
Happy New Year, with drones instead of fireworks.
Australian Green Party statement from 2013 on fuel reduction burns.
https://www.facebook.com/Australian.Greens/posts/141378112687123
Tweets about Winston Peters.
What?
See https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/93050983/winston-peters-accidentally-shares-social-media-search-on-himself-or-does-he