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Open mike 01/05/2015

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  1. Saarbo 1

    Im not an Economist so can anyone explain: given the $7 billion reduction in dairy exports, why is GDP growth still forecasted to be positive?

    Given that $7 billion export reduction hasn’t effected GDP growth to any great degree, why do Economists and the MSM think its such an important measure?

    • Sans Cle 1.1

      GDP measures “productive” economic activity. Some economists think that all productive economic activity is good, and get excited about GDP growth. E.g. Rebuilding Christchurch leads to lots of “productive” activity in the form of construction activity.
      Other economists don’t get excited about GDP growth, and look to other measures/indicators, such as Genuine Progress Indicatiors, Happiness Indexes etc. at a national level, and different indicators at a sub-national level: income levels, the distribution of personal income, househol income, household income by number of people in that household etc.

      Politicians worldwide have really only had explicit economic growth goals for between 50-100 years.
      They think it’s such an important measure because it is a headline indicator, and is conventionally used. I doubt many of them understand what lies beneath it, what it measures or how it is measured.
      The $7billion reduction in dairy exports will have significant effects on the NZ economy in the next few years. Dairy farmers will have less money to reinvest, hence less economic activity. There will be a slight lag until these effects are felt. Meanwhile, selling houses in Auckland counts as “productive” economic activity (even though it is deadweight exchange of existing goods – banks profit, but their profits are mainly realised in Australia; government benefits from increased taxes associated with house sales: e.g. Estate agent’s income tax etc).
      The govt are being disingenuous when they keep on spouting on about how steady the economy is. It is not really doing so well, as far as I can tell. I cannot see newly emerging innovative industries sprouting all through the land.

      • Bearded Git 1.1.1

        I heard an economist on RadioNZ this morning (can’t find it now online) saying that half of the 3% GDP growth in NZ is due to immigration. (My guess is another 1% is due to the Chch rebuild.)

        He said that immigration numbers need to be cut so that pressure is taken off the Akl housing market and so that the RB can cut interest rates.

        For the life of me I can’t see why the RB isn’t cutting rates since we have some of the highest rates in the world, very low inflation and an over-valued dollar. Other methods than interest rates should be being used to dampen house prices in Akl, either by the RB or the government.

        Unfortunately Key and his speculator mates are happy with the housing bubble in Akl, so the rest of the country has to suffer. Talk about lack of vision.

        • Bearded Git

          Paul Glass of Devon Funds Management was the guy (not sure if he is an economist). It’s here and worth a listen:


          • greywarshark

            That Devon Funds chap seemed to have some ideas that are new, cf to the usual guff from bank economists.

            I think I heard the idea that GDP should be on a population basis so it has more reality and value when analysing the figures. DTB might like to put it better. But it seems to me that some of the stats we are presented with are just measures of a trend in a statistic that never measured the right thing in the right way in the first place.

            Like the fun way of telling how a country is doing by studying the price of hamburgers, or the length of women’s skirts (one measure that has been actually posited by objective market watchers, not by finky camera guys)

      • Draco T Bastard 1.1.2

        This comment of mine seems to apply:

        …the implication is that we have increasing GDP while the economy looks to be in a recessionary state.

  2. North 2

    Steven Joyce – http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11441346

    Sydney taxi on standby, meter running for 9 hours…….$1,248. The arrogance adds up and adds up and adds up. I recall similar from Parata on a one day trip to Sydney a few years ago shortly after appointment as a minister.

    And of course smug wee ponce Simon Bridges had ALWAYS planned to come to Northland on ministerial duties in the 10 days prior to the Northland buy-election on 28 March…….”let ‘them’ eat cake” screams.

    • tracey 2.1

      Was there only one taxi operating in Sydney that day?

    • Sirenia 2.2

      Where are the headlines about this wasteful behaviour in the Herald. That is more than a month’s income for a disabled person.

      • Sirenia 2.2.1

        That is only a little article in the Herald – not the screamer headlines that Labour would have got. Will Mike Hosking denounce Joyce and the Government for this in one of his tedious monologues?

        • Tracey

          The Taxpayers Union will take the opportunity to pretend they care so when they tout for the ACT party in 2 years time people will think they are impartial.

    • North 2.3

      Here it is re Parata and the Sydney limo’ –

      Parata won’t quit, Key won’t sack her

  3. big ups! to the unite union – eh..?

    – for their david vs. goliath zero-hours-contracts victory over the fast-food behemoths..

    unite – showing what a union can/should do..

    the (rightwing) engineers union..?..following their long (self-interest-driven?) tradition ?

    – not so much..eh..?

    • tracey 3.1

      Agree with it being great work from Unite. As I was trying to explain to Gosman the other day, trying to change a government is not the only way to bring about change. people on the ground, working hard, fighting battles one by one, achieve change.

    • There hasn’t been a ‘right wing’ EU for twenty years, Phil. Do try and keep up.

      • phillip ure 3.2.1


        i must be imagining their long-silences during that poor-bashing clark labour govt time..eh..?

        when/what changed..?..

        ..what did i miss..?

        ..do tell..!

        • te reo putake

          Mate, there’s so much you missed during your drug addled lost years you’d need a team of historians working in shifts to get you up to date. Best you just start from scratch and just assume your vague memories are as unreliable as your prose is unreadable.

          • left for deadshark

            pointless abuse TPR

            • te reo putake

              I agree, that’s why I called Phil on it.

              • left for deadshark

                @ TPR,..Head shake…

                That should read TRP,..i’m dyslexic.

                or are you going too slam that to.

                • If it’s true, why would I slam it? Phil made an unsubstantiated, anachronistic and inaccurate attack on a trade union. I responded and he doesn’t like it. His issue, not mine. His ignorance, not mine.

                  Isn’t it funny that most attacks on the union movement come from people who aren’t union members? And in Phil’s case, someone who is not even in the workforce. But no worry, the unions have fought against prejudiced and ignorant attacks for many, many years, wherever they come from.

                  • “..an unsubstantiated, anachronistic and inaccurate attack on a trade union’..

                    ..really..?..do educate me/others on the glowing-history of activism of the engineers union since the douglas/rightwing-revolution started..eh..?

                    ..and of course an interesting compare/contrast is with the australian union movement – who refused to unbuckle..

                    ..and yr sneers @ ‘non-workers’ as others – is symptomatic of all that is/has been wrong with the union movement..

                    ..in that if you are not ‘one of us’/part of that particular union..

                    ..they couldn’t give a fuck about you..

                    ..unions have become covens of self-interest..

                    ..groups of people looking up their own arses..

                    ..do tell how the history of the engineers union does not fit that profile..?

                    • Educate yourself, Phil. Start with the name of the union, then go forward from there.

                    • weka

                      while I appreciate you needing to keep it real here trp, any chance you could not drag this out all day?

                    • i took yr suggestion..

                      ..and both googled and binged ‘new zealand engineers union activism’..



                      (and i am not just citing the engineers’ union..

                      ..the union movement in the main – is an example of successful divide and rule by the elites..par excellence..

                      ..self-regulating dissonance..

                      ..and with a history of uncaring/self-interest/outright-perfidy since the mid-80’s..

                      ..which..again..is why the breaking of that ‘consensus’/pattern by unite..

                      ..is both so refreshing..and as i said..a glimpse at the possiblities for good if the union movement removes their collective-heads from their collective-arse-holes..

                      ..and got their act together..

                      ..and thought/worked for the collective-good..

                      ..and not just for themselves/their members..

                      ..and screw everyone else..


                    • You’re so out of touch, Phil, it’s mind boggling. I think I’ll take up weka’s suggestion. All the best, anyway. It’s good having you back, even if you’re still not making any sense.

                    • and if looking for ideas of what to do..?

                      ..they could start with a three-fer..

                      ..no more zero contracts – for anyone..

                      ..a living wage for all workers..

                      ..and a universal basic income…for all citizens..

                      ..that three-fer will end the evils of child-poverty etc..

                      ..in one fell swoop..

                      ..no more just pissing around the edges of these problems/ills..

                      ..what are you waiting for..?

                    • Tautoko Mangō Mata

                      I disagree. Unite union has been well represented at virtually every protest from TPPA, selling State assets, Oil drilling protests, opposing charter schools, defending Glen Innes State housing, etc., supporting Gaza/Palestine.
                      In fact Unite’s Joe Carolan often speaks to the crowd at these protest rallies and is commonly on a megaphone during the marches. The Unite people have been very visible o social justice issues on all issues of social justice.

                  • left for deadshark

                    If thats true,.. ?

                    isn’t it funny,..no, but I think thats inaccurate,most attacks,as you call it come from other unions ie employers Associations and other organizations.I have been an union organizer, and my reading of history shows sexism, racism, and sometimes even corruption, and of coarse your attack on the underemployed is also unhelpful, but seeing you are an author here as well, and making some good points too, I will dissed from further comment, and read more thoroughly terms and conditions here on TS.

                    • the pigman

                      left for deadshark I can’t stand the patronising/sarcastic style either. I think it turns most people right off (they are just so used to it they don’t say anything), so thanks for speaking up.

                      However, regarding the EMA (Employers and Manufacturers Association) I don’t think that qualifies in any sense as a union. I think it’s just an example of the Right co-opting the language of the Left (and to some extent riding on the reputation of the EPMU given the not-dissimilar initials) to promote itself as some form of expert on employment issues, when it is little more than a right-wing lobby group providing some basic services to its members (businesses) in aid of oppressing and crushing (sorry, “appropriately monitoring, restructuring and right-sizing” as they say) their workforce.

                  • John Shears

                    Well said TRP Ake Ake Ake

                  • cyclonemike

                    Good on you TRP. Nice to hear defence of a union from the real world.

            • Murray Rawshark

              Tautoko. I can’t see any need for it either. I also agree with Phil about the Engineers’ Union.

          • phillip ure

            so..ad homs all ya got..eh..?

            ..and tho’ ‘intoxicating’ – heroin/opiates do not make you particularly ‘addled’..

            ..(hence so many doctors morphine-addicts – but still functioning..

            ..and i wd cast yr mind back to an aussie tv show called ‘hypothetical’..

            ..where they once presented a panel of doctors etc. with the scenario of a choice of being operated on by a surgeon under the influence of a variety of intoxicants – both illegal and legal..

            ..all of those chose the surgeon under the influence of opiates..

            ..but anyway..i stopped using it long before the clark govt arrived on the scene..

            ..and i remember well the silences of the union movement during those nine long years of ‘worthy’ poor-people vs. ‘unworthy’ poor-people twisted-bullshit from clark..

            ..it is clearly you who needs the history-lessons…(‘hic!’..eh..?..)

            ..and let’s not go near the union response to the neoliberal/rightwing revolution undertaken by both national and labour..eh..?

            ..a tad embarrassing – given that response was to drop their trousers – and bend over..eh..?

            ..and/but anyway – ad homs all ya got..eh..?

            • te reo putake

              Sorry, Phil, none of what you ‘wrote’ made any sense. Better luck next time. Still, terrific that a dedicated non-worker like yourself is so passionate about workers rights. Sure, you haven’t got a clue what’s been going on in the union movement, but that’s not going to stop you having an ignorant and inaccurate whinge is it?

              Almost 10 o’clock, must be time for a mood adjuster. Off you go, the pipes, the pipes are calling, Philly boy.

              • do keep up..!

                vapouriser dear boy – vapouriser..

                so..still just ad homs..eh..?

                (me a ‘non-worker’..?..eh..?..whoar..!

                http://whoar.co.nz/ )

                ..i actually view what unite have done/achieved as a wake-up call as to the possibilities..

                ..to a largely comotose/moribund/self-interest-driven/ riven union movement..


                ..so good news in general..

                ..so..how about the union movement seek/find some testicular-fortitude..?

                ..and swing in behind a drive to make zero-hour contracts illegal in all industries..?


                ..and if not..why fucken not..?

                • DoublePlusGood

                  I think you two need to get a room and make mad, passionate love or something.

                • Atiawa

                  …. and do you think unites success would have been achieved without the support/reporting of the issue by the right-wing msm?

                  • i agree that campbell live deserve their kudos in helping bring about this change..

                    ..their publicity/coverage has been invaluable..

                    ..in articulating the public disgust/disquiet at this clear abrogation of any civil/human-rights..

                    ..of a marker that a society/culture has got something very very wrong..

                • Bearded Git

                  You are blog-clogging again Phillip

                  • greywarshark

                    That’s a point Phillip. The elongated nature of your stream of consciousness style takes up a lot of screen space. Of course that has been mentioned before. But some of us are slow learners, unable to adapt and keep up with the pace of change. But not you I thought Phillip?

                • Dave

                  FFS it starts again. Grow up, the both of you. Phil, do some research before running your mouth and TRP, if you don’t like what he has to say, don’t make the slapdown personal. Aren’t you a mod on this site? You should know better. Now sort your behaviour out or there won’t be any pudding.

                  • what have i said that is inaccurate..?

                    • Dave

                      Now, why in the blue fuck would I want to engage so you can throw a huge long diatribe that is only really one paragraph? Go and hit the bong, and pack me one while you’re there 😛

              • Murray Rawshark

                Your attitude to the unemployed would fit well with that of the NAct caucus. Since when is unemployment or underemployment something to use to belittle someone?

                You have also not managed to give one example of anything progressive the Engineers’ have done in the last twenty years.

                • Oh, do piss off you pompous git. I have no ‘attitude’ to the unemployed or unemployed. From what Phil has told us, he doesn’t fit into either category.

                  I can’t give any examples of what the EU has done because there are none for the simple reason that the EU has ceased to exist, which is the point I was making to Phil right at the start. So, yeah, if you’re going to lecture unions on what you perceive to be their failings (on Mayday, too!) at least try and get the names right. And try and find something to moan about from this century, eh.

                  And, no, I’m not going to list the achievements of the union that actually is the successor to the EU, except one, which is that it saved Unite from financial collapse. Do your own homework for the rest.

                  • Murray Rawshark

                    Are you actively lobbying for a grand coalition between Labour and National? You’ve got acting like an arrogant and abusive fool down pat already. Simon Bridges could learn off you.

                    I have no idea why you even bother being on a “left wing” blog. Your attacks on Phil are almost indistinguishable from those he used to receive on Whalespew.

                    But yeah, you’ll keep going. Almost never discussing anything in good faith, but always with vicious defence of the right of the labour movement. Did you understand the power imbalance between FJK and Amanda Bailey? The way you attack Phil on here suggests that maybe you didn’t.

                    I personally do not think you should have any role in moderation of this blog. You are far too abusive. However, I know I don’t get a say.

                    • Oooh, I think I smell burning martyr! Get off your high horse, Murray. Funnily enough, my moderation is pretty, er, moderate. Just a couple of bans so far I think. And it’s pretty easy to tell the difference between moderation and commentary. Moderation is in bold black ink. Commentary is on a blue background. I haven’t moderated anyone in this thread, nor would I, because it’s simply a discussion. Nobody has crossed any line, except you trying to tell TS who should and shouldn’t be a moderator. But even then, you’re not being moderated by me. So, get over yourself, why doncha.

                      PS, I wrote an post touching on the power imbalance between Key and the cafe worker. You must have missed it.

                    • Murray Rawshark

                      Saying what I think is not telling TS what to do and I know that TS is not an entity anyway. It is giving an opinion. It’s nothing to do with martyrdom whatsoever. It is at most a call for a better atmosphere in these discussions. When you call Phil drug addled and whatever else, there is no way he can (nor should he) respond in kind, irrespective of the colour of your posts.

                      With Amanda Bailey, it always would have been in her mind that FJK was PM and had power that was inaccessible to her. He claimed he was being silly to show that he had no power. I didn’t swallow his explanation.

                    • weka

                      One thing that might help clarify matters is a policy whereby all moderation is done in bold. Sometimes moderators make moderation comments in a comment, which confuses things.

                    • Murray Rawshark

                      Moderation is done in bold. I am not complaining about moderation.

                    • Bill

                      I’d kind of like this exchange to stop about here because it just can’t go anywhere. People will have read the comments being referred to and arrived at their own conclusions.

                      If, Murray, you don’t appreciate how a given commenter interacts with others, then don’t interact with them. Simple.

                      If they then interact with you, you could try politely pointing out to them why you don’t wish any interaction with them. I eventually did that with Pete George and it worked out fine for both of us. 😉

                      Of course, there’s always the option to keep the to and fro going until it reaches it’s almost inevitable conclusion. (shrug)

                    • Murray Rawshark

                      Fair enough, Bill. The comments are there, as you say. Stopping here.

                    • Anne

                      Meant for Bill (not MR)

                      I’d kind of like this exchange to stop about here because it just can’t go anywhere.

                      Thanks Bill.

                      It’s hard to take when two people who make a lot of quality contributions to this site get their knickers in a twist and start blasting one another. It almost always looks like misunderstanding of viewpoints to me. You’re on the same side mates so just agree to differ eh? (Hope I haven’t made things worse)

                    • Tiger Mountain

                      The Voice of Reason apparently wants people to cough up the acronym EPMU–Engineering Printing and Manufacturing Union–a union whose published early history I happen to have a copy of–“Advocate, Educate, Control, the History of the NZ Engineers Union 1863–1983”. Put together in the 80s by labour movement historian the late Bert Roth. EPMU came about via amalgamations mainly in the ECA era.

                      It is no secret that most NZ unions sprang from crafts and guilds and even the “goat riders”–masons and were “creatures of legislation” and the award system after the first Labour govt. (oh for an industry award or MECCA system spanning the country now some would say!)

                      There was only ever a small group of class struggle based unions that drove the renaissance of the Federation of Labour after the brave but disastrous 1951 lockout. The Engineers should not be considered to be part of that group. They supported the ICFTU rather than the communist/non aligned WFTU international centres during the cold war era and were generally pro Anglo and anti Soviet.

                      The EPMU was a membership raider in the 90s until a concord was reached with other unions. I had personal dealings with many members and officials of the Engineers in the car industry for 20 years so have some insight into these matters. Some diabolical sell outs occurred with officials of that union.

                      They are a largely conservative union with a changing membership such as migrant workers at telcos, not so much the “tradesmen” of decades back. Aircraft engineers jobs diminishing and cabin crew etc assuming more importance. An amalgamation with the Service and Food Union may happen too. So a mixed record, they represent members well in work sites but are not a campaigning union, and advocate voting Labour basically.

                  • North

                    Just watching (over months)……and taking it in……I end up with the feeling that you’re the prime pompous (and hectoring) git around here TRP.

                    P.Ure sticks his neck out. You lecture……interminably……superior being you. (Hah !)

                    • North

                      Like an up-himself school prefect, albeit of the Left. Left is cool as long as it’s Right what ? Just a feeling. Shared I suspect by more than a few. You can piss all over me if that spins your wheels……I don’t give two fucks. You bully far too often for me to care. Gimme the honest if imperfect P.Ure any day !

            • greywarbler

              Asking the hard questions eh Phil. They bounce off a complacent impervious surface. And by the way don’t take comments about drugs etc to heart and bother to reply to justify yourself. You know it’s only a smoke-screen to avoid looking clearly at the actual point you are making.

              Unions failed us in NZ. But then we all have failed to understand that real democracy is more vulnerable than we realised. So a sham, fake one has replaced the original one. It could be said that it had a back-door fault like Microsoft. They only keep their systems safe with frequent patches. Most of us never thought of attacks to democracy, or weaknesses needing watching and repairing. So the hackers got in, and physically chopped our rights, advantages, and means of living away.
              But the fake democracy still fronts up like the background flats or panels to the actors in an old-style western film.
              Look behind, there is nothing there but some strong bracing posts.

              • rawshark-yeshe

                a friendly question, please, are you greywarshark returned to your original name ?

                • greywarshark

                  Hi r-yeshe
                  Yes I’ll stick to greywarshark for now. I took a break and went into default mode to warbler when I came back. I still am concerned about the rawshark- thing and Hager so I will stick with the name for the present. One day when things get better? I’ll be a chirpy bird again. Might even go to fantail – they are very inspiring – quick and alert. I’d like to be the same.

              • Murray Rawshark

                Interesting point of view. Of course, there are those who say the back door faults were purposely left in Microsoft products. I think unions began with better intentions than those of Bill Gates.

                And the comments about drugs could apply to me too. It’s not a very supportive world for people who do get off the stuff, except for those around them who see what they’ve overcome and subsequently achieved. Anyone who beats smack and doesn’t join NAct deserves credit.

                • greywarshark

                  I do feel that there are unsung heroes out there who have made a very good life which seems commendable. But if one only knew the lower point they had started from, they have actually climbed an everest of their own.
                  Now and then I read of a muso or entertainer who has got over drugs and that’s amazing.

    • tracey 4.1

      Cos he has a 1 year fixed contract which requires him to travel????(sarc)

      I think it is normal for more than a year to pass before a not guilty pleader faces trial?

      • Rosie 4.1.1

        I have no idea, however I know of a case of attempted rape and sexual assault. The offending took place in October 2014. He was arrested two days after the complaint was laid and the Police charged him approximately two weeks later. It could have been less. The “alleged” offender will plead not guilty.

        My friend whose close relative was the victim has said they have been told the trial will most likely take place in October 2015 – a year on from the crime taking place.

        This person by the way no longer has name suppression but the media never reported it. I thought they might have given his former role in the community.

        In the case of The Prominent New Zealander, won’t it be over one year? I can’t recall the timeline but it feels like this case has been going on for quite some time, it feels like it is intentionally dragging along.

        • McFlock

          investigation august last year, first appearance jan this year I think.

          I suspect we need more high court judges and staff in this country, if a year is not an unusual period to await trial.

          • Murray Rawshark

            We could always stop the idiotic war on drugs. That would free up a lot of court time.

      • rawshark-yeshe 4.1.2

        Very bad system if there are young people involved .. absolute torture for them and favours the accused. Be very good to have a compassionate and faster process for under-age victims.

        • Tracey

          Hopefully their evidence has already been recorded and they are being supported, leaving the realities of the trial more for the perpetrator than the victims (depending on ages of victims of course).

          • rawshark-yeshe

            a decent man mighty plead guilty to save further harm … oh, that’s right ….. no possibility here.

            • Tracey

              This person probably 100% believes that whatever they did was not wrong… no way he/she will plead guilty in those circumstances.

              Many folks who live their lives viewing their actions ONLY through their own eyes are genuinely oblivious to the consequences/impacts of their actions.

              • rawshark-yeshe

                fair comment Tracey .. it’s all perception after all.

                • Tracey

                  I believe that anyone wanting to be an elected representative needs to be able to display and show evidence of empathy. How else can they adequately represent others?

                  • rawshark-yeshe

                    So how can we measure that ? Some voters seem able to fooled a lot of the time …

                    • Tracey

                      SIGH – I know…

                      I guess some just don’t think it is a necessary trait in the first place. For some reason many think having made alot of money in a niche career is all you need to lead a country…

                    • rawshark-yeshe

                      sigh indeed ….. and btw, when I was on silence from here a few weeks back with Murray Rawshark, I read some of the pieces you posted about the Winebox and your representation of Paul White .. how amazing. Have been re-reading the three books by Wishart … what a catastrophic mess. And I do see ugly parallels today with Ben Rachinger … maybe one day you can talk some more about things you knew. I was astonished Wishart did not choose to interview you, or was it rather chose not to interview you ? If ever there is more you can say, I would be deeply interested. There is never a time I pass by that underpass pillar and don’t think about what the truth might have been — it has always haunted me. We suffer a very dirty and well-disguised underbelly.

              • Murray Rawshark

                I would guess that most child molesters think there’s nothing wrong with what they do. It would be hard to see how they’d do it otherwise. I know that many think of themselves as victims, seduced by the wiles of small children. One I came across thought he was doing 12 year olds a favour by grooming them to be “loved” later on. I did him a favour by preparing him for the bashings he would face in prison. Unfortunately the parents of the two girls chose to ignore what he was doing.

    • Stuart Munro 4.2

      They’ll be trying to position the ‘prominent’ trial midway between elections to minimise public response. The longer it’s delayed the more trouble it will cause in 2017…

      If the Key junta actually makes it to 2017 – it would only need a handful of Gnats to be run over, ingest a surfeit of lampreys, or spontaneously combust, and we’ll be rid of this odious assemblage of incompetent villains and vermin.

    • veutoviper 4.3

      I don’t think there is any ‘conspiracy’ here in terms of the timing of the trial date.

      Regrettably, the length of time for a criminal case to get to trial here in NZ is long, particularly a jury trial, and usually takes over a year.

      In this instance, while there have obviously been a number of District Court pre-trial hearings already, the case was only transferred from the District Court to the High Court a week or so ago. IIRC from working for some time in the justice sector, the time already taken in relation to these earlier DC hearings would not be taken into account in scheduling the HC trial.

      Here is some information from the MOJ website on the factors that may affect the timing of a trial.


      The links at the bottom are to old 2011 waiting times.

      Here are the latest High Court waiting times as at Dec 2014.


      As you will see, average waiting times at Auckland High Court are over a year at 390 days, while median times are only slightly under at 341 days.

      The National total average and median times are 408/332.
      Gisborne is the quickest with 206/206.
      Palmerston North is the longest – average at 955 but median is 308.
      Whangerei is the second longest at 634/606.

      EDIT – and Jan Logie on this subject, from the side bar, is worth reading.

      • weka 4.3.1

        thanks veuto, that’s what I was wondering, so good to have some information.

      • Bearded Git 4.3.2

        A trial in the middle of next year, and then an appeal may take this close to the election. The slower the better.

      • Tracey 4.3.4

        Interestingly the guy who killed the WINZ workers in September was due to start his trial today but it was delayed. So that’s 7 months.

        I note Alex Swney, former head of Heart of the City had his sentencing delayed yesterday to a “future time” due to the Judge being ill.

      • Rosie 4.3.5

        Thanks VV, helpful as ever 🙂

  4. Jeeves 5

    …was listening to some old music last night while on the treadmill….. couldn’t help but be struck by this old Pink Floyd jem:


    Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away
    Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air
    You better watch out
    There may be dogs about
    I’ve looked over Jordan and I have seen
    Things are not what they seem.

    What do you get for pretending the danger’s not real
    Meek and obedient you follow the leader
    Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
    What a surprise!
    A look of terminal shock in your eyes
    Now things are really what they seem
    No, this is no bad dream.

  5. Pasupial 6

    Long-serving [meals on wheels driver] volunteer Dr Terry Hearn, of Dunedin, will quit if the board votes to privatise southern hospital kitchens at its meeting next Thursday.

    ”I am now certain that the assumption was made – whether casually or deliberately – that Compass could continue to rely on volunteer drivers and allow them to subsidise its profits.[“]…

    Meanwhile, HBL, the Government entity that developed the deal with Compass, has admitted the cost of the business case has blown out to $4.1 million…

    A protest against the plan will be held tomorrow, in the Octagon, starting at noon.


    • Tracey 6.1

      this is EXACTLY the point… a company is using unpaid labour to create a profit for itself. I am pretty sure in another century we had another word for it. For now it is just plain exploitation. I do hope they vote with their feet… The good folks of Dunedin, I feel sure, would start cooking in their own homes and delivering until Meals on Wheels returns.

      • Pasupial 6.1.1

        Yeh, there didn’t seem to be much I could add to Hearn’s comment. Hopefully the Dunedin Labour MPs will be at the protest tomorrow. It makes sense that King would be commenting as Health spokesperson, but the workers and volunteers also need support from their electorate MPs:

        As well as financial cost, it was important to remember the significant personal cost for the kitchen workers enduring years of uncertainty, Mrs King said.

        The Service and Food Workers’ Union has threatened possible legal action against the southern board, and Mrs King said that should prompt the board to reject the proposal, as it could not afford a legal fight. Some boards had rejected the proposal, and Southern should do the same.

        The problem with the SDHB is that they are likely to have an overseer appointed by the government to supervise cost-saving. It’s all starting to feel a bit like Environment Canterbury when inconvenient democracy threatened private profits.

    • weka 6.2

      “Meanwhile, HBL, the Government entity that developed the deal with Compass, has admitted the cost of the business case has blown out to $4.1 million…”

      What’s a business case? Surely that can’t be the work done to change the system?

      Go Terry Hearn!!

    • greywarshark 6.3

      Wasn’t there another interesting bit to the Compass-HBL story? That even after a huge amount of dollar input from the government enabling the HBL to do their important health budget-dieting work, they still have charged all the hospitals they have worked in for their services? If so – Oh the sweet, sweet, non-fattening pleasurable taste of a government sinecure. Especially in the hospital context. A cure for as much sin as you want to indulge in paid by a generous and caring government!

  6. CC 7

    See: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503079&gal_cid=1503079&gallery_id=149812

    Auckland ratepayers are about to be screwed over by Willis Bond – the Wellington vulture company that makes hay on the privatization of prime publicly owned land.

  7. Clemgeopin 8

    * David Cameron makes gaffe in first breath over tax credits ‘raid’
    * Furious voter skewers David Cameron over foodbanks saying ‘people have died’

    Furious voter skewers David Cameron over foodbanks saying ‘people have died’

  8. Draco T Bastard 9

    Cowardly Firing of Australian State-Funded TV Journalist Highlights the West’s Real Religion

    “SBS supports our Anzacs” — and apparently bars any questioning or criticism of them. That mentality sounds like it came right from North Korea, which is to be expected when a media outlet is prohibited from saying anything that offends high government officials. Any society in which it’s a firing offense for journalists to criticize the military is a sickly and undemocratic one.

    This is the type of society that the West is becoming. One where the propaganda of the ‘elite’ can no longer be questioned. The old term for such is Lèse-majesté.

    • Murray Rawshark 9.1

      This is one of the developments that really worries me – people losing their jobs for speaking out privately against the obscene madness of the militarisation of our national stories. It has really worrying fascistic undertones.

  9. joe90 10

    Aww, helicopter ride.

    What could go wrong with a bite or two?

    Everything, as it turned out.

    Not at first. For an hour, I felt nothing. I figured I’d order dinner from room service and return to my more mundane drugs of choice, chardonnay and mediocre-movies-on-demand.

    But then I felt a scary shudder go through my body and brain. I barely made it from the desk to the bed, where I lay curled up in a hallucinatory state for the next eight hours. I was thirsty but couldn’t move to get water. Or even turn off the lights. I was panting and paranoid, sure that when the room-service waiter knocked and I didn’t answer, he’d call the police and have me arrested for being unable to handle my candy.


  10. Ovid 11

    Happy May Day everyone. Great news as Maccas comes to its senses over zero hour contracts.

  11. rawshark-yeshe 12

    Look how much we have just sold again to overseas buyers !! Surely it’s time for a review and radical change to the OIO system.

    Oh, and look see what Mike Sabin’s new corporate role has achieved? Selling to Chinese one of the loveliest holiday camps in Northland.

    We are goneburgers at this rate. sigh …..


    • Gosman 12.1

      Yes. Abolish it as it is a waste of money.

      • Murray Rawshark 12.1.1

        I agree. Get rid of it and stop land sales to non-residents.

        • rawshark-yeshe

          That would take care of it ! Not much chance tho the way this govt sells residence status to many who should not have it. .. always available if you have the millions in your bank account … and absurdly with no with need to prove you have it in the same account the next day ! Recipe for corruption isn ‘t it ?

        • weka

          “Get rid of it and stop land sales to non-residents.”

          Do you mean people without residency status, or people that don’t live here?

          • Murray Rawshark

            I mean people who don’t live in Aotearoa.

            • weka

              How about NZ Citizens who live overseas? I think would have to be exempt.

              • Murray Rawshark

                Why? So they can be landlords? They don’t need the house to live in if they’re living overseas.

                • weka

                  No, but they might need it when they get back. For some people it’s not just a house, it’s a home.

                  And if they sell to someone who turns it into a rental, how is that any different than the person going overseass renting it out?

                  They might already be a landlord. If I was renting off them and they’re good landlords, I’d prefer that they didn’t have to sell when they go work overseas for a year, esp if they sell to someone who then ends the tenancy.

                  I can think of any number of scenarios where it makes sense to not force NZ citizens (and people with residency) to sell.

                  • felix

                    Yes and…

                    In most of the countries these NZ citizens might be living in, they don’t have the option of buying a house as well as their house in NZ

                    • weka

                      I’m also thinking about the impact on housing prices in NZ if every person that owns a property that goes overseas for a time has to sell, and then rebuy when they come back.

                  • Murray Rawshark

                    I didn’t say anything about Kiwis having to sell their house when they leave. I have no idea where you got that idea from. Not being able to buy is not the same as being forced to sell.

    • greywarshark 12.2

      Thanks for that rawsharke y. About the sale to overseas interests. Do you know who sold Whatuwhwhi? Who were the owners who sold the camp? I wondered if it was the Maori interests who had big debts after a business failure.

  12. greywarbler 13

    I didn’t realise how well embedded we were in the English speaking Quinad till I heard about the Five Eyes spying.

    Now while looking at wikipedia on passports I see –
    “the Five Nations Passport Group, an international forum for cooperation between the passport issuing authorities in Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States “.

    I thought it was three 6’s that were supposed to be the mark of a coming bad end. Five seems to be getting bad connotations also.

  13. adam 14

    Was listening to this – The Russel Norman questions


    Is it just me or, was there a rising level of contempt from the government benches for Mr Norman when ask questions from the public.

    • rawshark-yeshe 14.1

      The disdain has been there for a long time, imho.

      Also Carter’s disdain and vile shouting rudeness yesterday at Green MP Catherine Delahunty as she tried ( in vain) to have a document tabled in the house. Carter yelled and became so angry, he is just unsuitable for the role. He looks miserable always, until someone on the right tries to make ‘a funny’ of some kind, but he metes out his worst acerbic and furious misery on Greens, Winston and various Labour front benchers. He is an impatient and and acidic angry man.

      His divisive partisan behaviour shames the office and betrays us all.

      • adam 14.1.1

        I was waiting for the point of order on When he yelled at Catherine

        Point of order: When did the PM ‘s abusive style of bluster, become the norm for the speaker of the house, Mr Speaker.

        Of course the member would be ejected – but hey be worth it.

        • rawshark-yeshe

          Metiria did try with her excellent point of order .. but Carter should apologise for the ‘unbecoming of the house’ manner in which he yelled at Catherine.

          Can you imagine this man as our Ambassador in London ? OMFG.

          • Draco T Bastard

            Can you imagine this man as our Ambassador in London ?

            Would it be any worse than having JK as our PM?

            Actually, if you look around the media a bit (except the MSM in NZ) it’s obvious that conservatives around the world are losing the plot.

            • rawshark-yeshe

              It’s not a competition for worse, worserer or worserest although it can surely look like it. Each of them is an unmitigated disaster for Aotearoa with Groser about to become yet another in Washington. ( Bet Helen can’t wait sarc.)

              • adam

                But it does seem to be a competition, rawshark-yeshe. And, Key now heads their international conservative organisation – May there name never pass my lips.

                I bet they are feeling chuffed about that.

            • Tracey


              I commented about this somewhere else this morning. IN Australia they swallowed the misogynistic anti-Gillard schpiel from CT but very quickly have realised their error, Same in UK, but here… 3 terms later…

              • adam

                These Tories, have become full blown with their women hating of late. it’s just Sick.

  14. Agora 15

    The *real* game of thrones in Saudi Arabia while Key was there ..

  15. greywarshark 16

    Radio nz had this – has everyone heard about it? Get the links here –

    We like a good chinwag at radionz.co.nz and now we want you to join the conversation too.
    Today we’re trialling a new forums feature – rnztalk. You will also find it at the foot of this piece and on today’s weekly political column, Power Play.
    We are starting small so we can see what you think. We won’t be adding forums to everything we publish but we will, depending what you say, start steadily increasing their use over time.

    Rnztalk uses a platform called Discourse – a 100 percent open source system – which, like us, wants to encourage a better level of discussion.

    This means things are a little bit different from your normal commenting systems. Comments are post-moderated, placing the onus on you to be mature, considered, caring and reasonable in what you write.

    My bold. It’s not a place for keyboard warriors to unleash hell and fury. We want people to feel safe and respected on our forums. Before you hit the publish button stop, pause and think. Play the issue never the person.
    Click here for some guidelines which should help with that process.

    Joining is easy – simply use your existing Facebook or Twitter account or sign up separately.
    And, let us know what you think. Thanks.

    • Tracey 16.1

      Cool, another place for people to say “what they reckon”

    • weka 16.2

      Interesting they are going for post-moderation. Good on them.

      • Tracey 16.2.1

        As long as they are even handed in what they let through

        • weka

          “what they let through”

          what they take out. They’re not moderating until after the comments have been published.

          • Tracey

            okee dokee, sorry. you mean moderation after comment not moderation of posts?.

  16. Michael 18

    Bernie Sanders, independent democratic socialist US Senator, has announced a run for President. On the Democratic ticket – he will be battling Clinton.


    He refuses all corporate donations. I think he can take on the billionaire class – or at least give them a good scare. He’s probably to the left of Elizabeth Warren.

    He wants to take on Wall Street and break up the banks, truly tax the wealthy, move America to a universal single-payer health system, make universities debt-free, vastly reduce poverty by expanding benefits, double the minimum wage, take on tax evasion by corporations and the rich, oppose US intervention in the middle east, oppose the TPP (and all corporate trade deals), empower unions, expand worker cooperatives, and take on corporate money in politics truly address climate change, etc.

    He was a founding member of the Progressive Caucus which is composed of the left/’progressive’ of the Democratic Party. And himself, who is an independent.

    He might not win the primary, but he will shake the establishment and confront Hillary Clinton on these issues. The progressive wing of the Party is growing in influence. (i.e. Bill Clinton would *not* get chosen as a nominee today), and she’ll need to make it clear that she’ll appease them. Although I would hope that he could win outright.

    • ianmac 18.1

      Michael. Last night I watched the Russell Brand/Millibrand interview.
      The summary from Russell
      http://www.thepaepae.com/russell-brands-quieter-ed-milibrand-interview/35954/ at about 13:25 was so like your post from Bernie Sanders:
      “He wants to take on Wall Street and break up the banks, truly tax the wealthy, move America to a universal single-payer health system, make universities debt-free, vastly reduce poverty by expanding benefits, double the minimum wage, take on tax evasion by corporations and the rich, oppose US intervention in the middle east, oppose the TPP (and all corporate trade deals), empower unions, expand worker cooperatives, and take on corporate money in politics truly address climate change, etc.”
      And will we have a similar call from our MPs?

      Mind you, Russell reckons it is the power of the people who cause changes.

      • Tracey 18.1.1

        It’s not politicians who made zero contracts go away for certain NZ workers… in fact they allowed them to surface in the first place.

      • Michael 18.1.2

        Yes, well it would be the power of the people that would get Bernie elected. Bernie refuses all corporate donations – not a single cent comes from corporations. 60+% of his funding comes from small, individual donations and the remainder comes mostly from labour, environmental, and civil liberties groups.

        This is in contrast to the establishment US politicians who need corporate money to win. Hillary Clinton will raise nearly us$3 billion. The Koch Brothers, billionaire oil barons, are planning on spending nearly $1 billion of their own money to fix the election for the Republican Party.

        Bernie would need to be elected via a grassroots movement – first, to overcome Hillary who has the backing of moneyed interests, and then to win the election against a Republican candidate who will receive billions in corporate donations. It would take a mobilisation of ordinary people – a politician that represents people.

  17. How much longer before the police decide they need to act on Gloriavale? Last nights segments confirmed sexual, physical and emotional as well as possibly financial abuse.

    As yet I don’t think we have a Waco in the making, but given their disregard for the law when it comes to underage sex and their determination in isolating rebels, I wonder how they would react to the Police turning up with CYFS in force?

    • ianmac 19.1

      The problem might be in obtaining evidence that would stand up in court.

      • weka 19.1.1

        CYFS can still get involved though.

        Is Gloriavale that community on the West Coast that’s been there for decades, or is it a new one?

      • Nick 19.1.2

        Talking of Court costs I would love to know the legal status of this, not to mention the ethics…
        In effect the “cult” are wanting a road to them closed, the local Council has agreed BUT the Council is likely to go to court to defnd their action against other parties. Here’s the dubious bit. The “cult” are going to pay the Councils court costs. In other words an interested party is paying the council to defend a decision against other interested parties. How bent is that?

    • ianmac 19.2

      Must have heard you Robert.
      On the Herald: “A free phone line has been set up by police for people wanting to discuss experiences at the secretive Christian community Gloriavale.

      The line will be answered by Tasman District Police and has been established to manage the growing number of people wanting to discuss Gloriavale, police said.”

      • Nick 19.2.1

        One allegation on the TV3 program which wold be easy to investigate is that somebody at Gloriavale received a benefit from WINZ without the knowledge of the person they were claiming for. The person the benefit was claimed for only found out when thy were sent a demand for overpayment. That is fraud, theft, using somebodies identity for criminal purposes…you name it.

    • northshoreguynz 19.3

      Wonder how much they donate to the National Party?

  18. adam 20

    It’s one of those times, when the Christian left and right need to stop fighting. And go look at this community, and see how far off the path it really is. I think many will be shocked at how far off they are.

    Personally I’m convinced it’s christian in name only – as some of the utterance of Neville Cooper make him a cult figure not a christian. I find it abhorrent he says his group is based on christianity, to somehow justify that he is not a cult. Indeed the whole Cooperite Community is a cult – just look at this video.


    This is by definition cultish behaviour.


    Time for the Bishops and the other church leaders to step up and challenge this group.

    • Murray Rawshark 20.1

      I hope you don’t mean Bishop Tamaki 🙂

      • adam 20.1.1

        OH my goodness no.

        That man is in all probability leading a cult as well. He has crossed the line a few times.

        Making himself a bishop, was just odd.

  19. veutoviper 21

    Here is a Friday afternoon giggle – time for a wine.

    English on being Acting Prime Minister.

  20. Murray Rawshark 22

    When moderators are making personal attacks on commenters, I feel something has gone very wrong. I have no idea what we can do about it.

    • weka 22.1

      Can I make a couple of suggestions? When addressing commenters who also are at times moderators, think of them as commenters unless they explicitly say they are moderating. I took everything trp said upthread to be him as a commenter, not an author (which means he can be as rude/obnoxious as everyone else, including phil).

      The other thing is to stick to the issue and if necessary the behaviour. Your comment comparing trp to Simon Bridges strikes me as rude/abusive as anything trp said to phil. We don’t have to get personal like that (I was on the verge of calling trp out for the druggie put downs), but can instead either focus on the issue (unions), or the behaviour (keep it neutral).

      In the end I think we have to take our cues from the authors, and that is going to vary from author to author hugely. I have no problem calling trp out on things, but there is going to be a limit and the authors are the ones that get to say where that limit is for them. I respect that because they are the ones that do the hard yards here, and without them I/we wouldn’t have a place like this to hang out in.

      Sorry, that probably doesn’t help a lot, but I sense your frustration and hope there is a way that being here on ts can be ok for you. Lots of people value your input, myself included.

      • b waghorn 22.1.1

        ” When addressing commenters who also are at times moderators, think of them as commenters unless they explicitly say they are moderating. I took everything trp said upthread to be him as a commenter, not an author ”

        That sounds a bit like something despicable key would say about which hat he was wearing at the time. I think we should expect a higher standard from those with power, even if it is only the power to ban a commenter.

        • weka

          Except in this instance there are two distinct hats. There is a boundary between trp the author/moderator and trp the commenter. I’m kind of surprised that this isn’t obvious, or is a problem for some people. It’s why I’ve suggested upthread that a policy of moderation only happening in bold would make things clearer (the boundary gets blurred when moderators moderate in a comment).

          For me personally, when trp is commenting in Open Mike or on a post he didn’t write, he doesn’t have any more power over me than anyone else. Ditto the other day when I was arguing with CV and Red on a post they didn’t write. That they are also sometimes authors was irrelevant and we just argued quite vehemently about the politics. Sometimes it was quite heated and rude. That’s the kaupapa of the place (robust debate).

          I really don’t get the issue about power here. It’s not like trp is going to hold it against you if you argue with him (although I think he will eventually reach a limit were he is being harassed as an author/moderator). If anyone else had been relating with phil like he did today, they would have been told off as well by other commenters. What’s the problem?

          (btw, JK used the hats thing as a way of avoiding responsibility. I’d like to see how you think I’ve just done that, or trp).

          edit, in the end I think it comes down to people not being comfortable with the power imbalance, and I’m kind of curious why it’s coming up so much in the past few months. It’s not like this is new, afaik it’s always been like this on ts.

          • b waghorn

            You’re missing my point, trp is further up the food chain on the standard than most of us so should behave in a manner fitting the position of moderator.
            Most here IMO come here in the hope that in some small way it might make a difference so having it degenerate into pointless and pointed abuse will drive people away.

            • weka

              trp isn’t further up the food chain in the way you imply, and people might want to take a step back and consider why they see him that way. His behaviour today is entirely consistent with the rules and culture of the place. Have a go at his behaviour by all means, but there’s not need to have a go at him more because he is sometimes also an author with moderating responsibilities. He wasn’t in that role today and there is no onus on him to behave any better than you or me or phil or Murray etc. as long as he’s relating within the general rules and kaupapa.

    • veutoviper 22.2

      I understand and empathize with your comments, MR. I am not about to stir up a hornets’ nest in returning to past events, but I watched from the sidelines and said nothing – not through cowardice but through anger. If I had said my piece, I would not be here now. I totally respect Lprent’s right to moderate as he sees fit; certain others, not so. Time will tell; but I am looking for alternatives.

      • weka 22.2.1

        veuto, would you mind saying why you are ok with Lynn moderating as he sees fit but not some others?

        • veutoviper

          weka. I am happy to do so, but not tonight. Its been a heavy week, and its Friday night so I am going to enjoy a few wines with friends in town for the weekend. Also, I want my response to be a considered one, not a reaction. I don;t always agree with you, but I respect you so want to respond, so it may take a day or so.

    • The Murphey 22.3

      Using threats of banning to extort ‘evidence’ then when provided with ‘evidence’ still issue a ban…

      Any level of responsibility is too much for certain personality types which is why the sort of behaviour looks set to continue

      The answer to the question Murray is remove the responsibility of moderation because it was too much to expect it would not go the way it has

      • Murray Rawshark 22.3.1

        Moderation can’t be removed completely. For example, think of the case where someone might mention Sabin in a legally dubious context. That needs moderating or TS could end up being prosecuted.

        • The Murphey

          Hi Murray yes I agree but was not referring to there being no moderation

          My response was in reference to the personal abuse you mentioned as it is my observation there has shown to be a lack of suitability for moderator status in recent appointments

          [Drop it. I believe points of concern, various unhappinesses etc, have been proffered in a number of comments. But self martydom offenses includes “including telling us how to run our site or…” ]- Bill

      • One Anonymous Bloke 22.3.2

        Your false narratives are not “evidence”. That would be a link or two, which you didn’t supply.

  21. Penny Bright 23


    1 May 2015

    “Privatisation of three Auckland suburbs through the transferal of 2,800 State houses.”

    “The Housing Lobby believe the messages being portrayed over Bill English and Nick Smith’s announcement on the transferal of 2,800 State houses from Housing NZ to the Tamaki Redevelopment Company (TRC), is both misleading and untrue,” says Housing Lobby Spokesperson Sue Henry.


    “In letters delivered by Housing NZ to every tenants’ household on Thursday
    29 April 2015, it states ‘nothing will change for tenants’.”

    “The situation will drastically change for tenants, if the management and ownership of 2,800 State houses are transferred to a wholly commercial enterprise.”

    “Two main changes will be that the Tamaki Redevelopment Company will be able to sell or borrow against a freehold asset already paid for and owned by the public.”

    “The impression tenants have is that the Tamaki Redevelopment Company can offer transfers and allocations.”

    “It needs to be made clear that it is the Ministry of Social Development that now has this responsibility.”


    “One question that needs to be asked is if the Tamaki Redevelopment Company have no experience with tenants why are they there?

    Is their real role to assist with the transferal of this State Housing asset directly into the hands of private property development companies?

    The other question – is there any truth in the allegation that the Tamaki Redevelopment Company has already applied to Auckland Council to reconfigure massive tracts of reserve lands, parks, and school grounds for intensified housing?”

    “What exactly was discussed under ‘CONFIDENTIAL’ session at the Auckland Council Governing Body meeting held behind closed doors with the public excluded, on Thursday 30 April 2015?

    http://infocouncil.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/Open/2015/04/GB_20150430_AGN_5790_AT.PDF (Pg 93)

    “C1 Additional New Special Housing Area Request – April 2015 Auckland Development Committee Recommendation ”

    “What didn’t they want the public to know?”

    “State houses in Tamaki should remain under Housing NZ stewardship – end of story.”

    Sue Henry

    Housing Lobby


  22. weka 24

    Any chance people could lessen the embedding of video in comments? The space takes up half my laptop screen, so doubles the amount of scrolling. The Roger Waters one today is also freezing my iphone screen. I don’t mind the odd embed, but there seems to have been a spate of them in the past few days.

    • Not sure how to avoid embedding them, weka. I put a link in to a vid the other day and the full clip turned up, much to my surprise. Might be something to do with the wordpress upgrade the other day that also changed the emojis.

  23. les 25

    excuse me for being behind the times but is there anything Fletcher says here that has been proven correct!http://www.nzherald.co.nz/national/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503075&gal_cid=1503075&gallery_id=139509

    • ianmac 25.1

      Do you mean proven incorrect les? Hard to believe that no one here or in 5 Eyes is collecting data of any sort on NZers.

      • ianmac 25.1.1

        Of course is it possible that Fletcher resigned because the “rules” were in fact being broken? Just wondering.

        • Anne

          It has been mooted here in the recent past that the revelation the GCSB have been spying on South Pacific neighbours and other friendly nations – including China – for the NSA may have had a bearing on his decision to resign well before his term was up.

  24. joe90 26

    On it goes.

    Sources said the medical examiner found Gray’s catastrophic injury was caused when he slammed into the back of the police transport van, apparently breaking his neck; a head injury he sustained matches a bolt in the back of the van.


    • marty mars 26.1

      If the police don’t change their attitude to people of colour especially men then the whole place is going to burn. I cannot accept these men getting shot and killed by police just because of the colour of their skin. Change now police because people are not taking this shit and they never will again.

    • Bill 26.2

      “a head injury he sustained matches a bolt in the back of the van” (my emphasis added)

      Reminds me of the time my hands were cuffed behind my back in the back of a police van. When they entered the cop shop yard they jumped on the brakes…real hard. Luckily I’d sidled up to the back of the cab and merely got pressed to the metal…otherwise I’d have gone flying with no way to put my hands out in order to lessen any impact.

      Hmm….so maybe Gray’s death was a result of ‘standard practice and procedure’?

      • joe90 26.2.1

        Waikeria to the mount in the back of a Kingswood maria is something I’d rather forget. Never forget the soup and toast* (and pisspot) when I arrived though.

        (The late great Lou Sherwin had the kitchen screw by the shorts*.)

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    15 hours ago
  • Bridges should put his money where his mouth is
    Stuff has more details on what New Zealand First's slush-fund has been funding, with much of the spending directly benefiting the party. Which makes it look a lot like hidden donations, rather than the completely-innocent-giant-pile-of-cash Winston is trying to portray it as. The Electoral Commission is now investigating, but Simon ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    15 hours ago
  • The APEC police state enabling bill
    I've joked before about how hosting international summits effectively turns part of your country into a police state for the duration. Well, New Zealand is hosting APEC in 2021, with events throughout the year in Christchurch, Wellington, and Auckland. And the government has put up a bill to give itself ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    15 hours ago
  • Why coastal floods are becoming more frequent as seas rise
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    18 hours ago
  • The cost of a range clearance.
    It has been revealed that firing ranges used by the NZDF while deployed to the Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT) in Bamyan Province, Afghanistan, contained unexploded ordnance that caused numerous deaths and injuries after the NZDF withdrew the PRT in April 2013. In 2014 seven children were killed when an unidentified ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    18 hours ago
  • Still denying responsibility
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • A corrupt practice
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Democracy “A Bit Bonkers” – Thoughts Inspired By Lizzie Marvelly’s Latest Co...
    Didn't See It Coming: NZ Herald columnist Lizzie Marvelly's latest column merits serious scrutiny because such a clear example of anti-democratic thinking is encountered only rarely on the pages of the daily press. Which is not to say that the elitism which lies at the heart of such social disparagement ...
    2 days ago
  • Colombia: historic memory, massacres and the military
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    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • On the road to Net Zero, the next step is to update our UN pledge
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    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    2 days ago
  • Corruption as usual
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Fairer rentals
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Another NZDF coverup
    In 2003 New Zealand sent a Provincial Reconstruction Team to Afghanistan to support America's doomed war there. While there, they conducted regular weapons practice on local firing ranges, littering the landscape with unexploded ammunition. These ranges weren't secure - they're on land used by locals for animal herding - so ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • A loss for the Greens
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • New era for Ngāti Kuri and Auckland Museum
    Words and images by Jacqui Gibson Gone are Auckland Museum’s days of doing science using a museum-centric academic approach, after Māori land rights holders Ngāti Kuri gave the museum an ultimatum.
    Tom Trnski holding a fossilised whale tooth from the Far North.Aussie-born Head of Natural Sciences at Auckland Museum ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    3 days ago
  • Circling vultures: Why MediaWorks TV is really in trouble
    MediaWorks announced in October 2019 that it intended to sell off its struggling television business and cancel or cut back on several popular local programmes, including New Zealand Today, Married at First Sight New Zealand and 7 Days. Its radio and outdoor advertising arms are currently performing well, but MediaWorks’ ...
    Briefing PapersBy Peter Thompson
    3 days ago
  • Scary Opinium Poll
    Westminster voting intention:CON: 44% (+3)LAB: 28% (-1)LDEM: 14% (-1)BREX: 6% (-)via @OpiniumResearch, surveyed this weekChgs. w/ 08 Nov— Britain Elects (@britainelects) 16 November 2019 This, of course, doesn't look good.  Labour have been chucking big, headline grabbing policies left, right and centre ... Well, maybe not right.  Left, left ...
    3 days ago
  • A coward’s ploy.
    Some readers may remember that I mentioned last year that I was applying for NZ citizenship. I filled out the paperwork and had my original citizenship interview in February. Everything went well until they discovered that, because I had spent five months in the US in 2017, I had not ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    4 days ago
  • Left censorship and exclusion against gender-critical women: a Marxist critique
    by Deirdre O’Neill It is becoming quite acceptable for certain sections of the left to declare that people like me – women who are ‘gender critical’ – should not be allowed in leftist or anarchist spaces. Leaving aside the arrogance and implicit authoritarianism of this claim, its lack of critical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • “Uncertainty” can be better solved with a better grasp of life’s inherent complexities…
    There is an article in The Conversation, written by Jeremy P. Shapiro (Adjunct Assistant Professor of Psychological Sciences, Case Western Reserve University), about what he sees as the psychologically-based underpinnings of three main matters that seem to vex people all around the planet. The article is titled “The Thinking ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    4 days ago
  • Citizens vs the Rogue Deep State
    . .   Blogger Martyn Bradbury has won his case against unreasonable search and surveillance against the NZ Police; and subsequent Police attempts to produce evidence in secrecy, in a closed Court. His case highlights a disturbing growing trend in Aotearoa New Zealand for State power to be used against ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Massey University’s free speech policy double-plus-good
    The Committee of Disobedient Women has intercepted an email from Dr Emma Eejut, Senior Lecturer in Sociology, Massey University to the university’s Vice-Chancellor, Jan Thomas. Dear Jan, Thank you for your courageous move.  I think 10 pages of blether** should tie any of the students game enough to try holding ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Unacceptable
    That's the only response to the findings of the Ombudsman's investigation into LGOIMA practices at the Christchurch City Council:My investigation identified serious concerns about the Council’s leadership and culture, and its commitment to openness and transparency. In particular, Council staff raised concerns with me about various methods employed by some ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • There is what corruption looks like
    NZ First seems to be nakedly trying to enrich itself from public office:A powerful New Zealand First figure helped establish a forestry company that then pushed for money from two key funding streams controlled by a New Zealand First Minister. An RNZ investigation has found Brian Henry, lawyer for Winston ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Escape from Manus Island
    Behrouz Boochani is an award winning author and journalist. He is also a refugee, who for the past six years has been detained in Australia's offshore gulag on Manus Island, and in Papua New Guinea. But last night, with the cooperation of the WORD Christchurch festival and Amnesty International, he ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • When World’s Collide.
    Different Strokes: If a multicultural immigration policy imposes no obligation on immigrant communities to acknowledge and ultimately embrace their host nation’s most cherished traditions and values, then how is that nation to prevent itself from being reduced to a collection of inward-looking and self-replicating ethnic and cultural enclaves?THE COALITION GOVERNMENT’S ...
    6 days ago
  • Could There Be Method In Massey University’s Madness?
    Protective Zone: Reading the rules and guidelines released by Massey University, it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that its governing body considers the whole concept of free speech a disruptive threat to the orderly imparting of orthodox academic knowledge.IN TRUE ORWELLIAN fashion, Massey University has announced its commitment to ...
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: We need more trees, not less
    Farmers held a hate-march on Parliament today, complete with MAGA hats, gun-nut signs, and gendered insults. While supposedly about a grab-bag of issues - including, weirdly, mental health - it was clear that the protest was about one thing, and one thing only: climate change. And specifically, forestry "destroying" rural ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • The IGIS annual report: Dead letters and secret law
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security released their annual report today, and I've been busy reading through it. In amongst the usual review of what they've been doing all year, there's a few interesting bits. For example, a discussion on "agency retention and disposal of information", which points out that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A referendum on bigotry
    The End of Life Choice Bill passed its third reading last night, 69 - 51. Thanks to a compromise with NZ First - which looks to have been necessary on the final numbers - the commencement of the bill will be subject to a referendum. Given the ugliness of the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Political parties and GMOs: we all need to move on
    Recently more than 150 post-graduate students and young scientists presented an open letter to the Green Party via The Spinoff, encouraging them to reconsider their position on genetic modification. Their target is tackling climate change issues.[1] Can any party continue to be dismissive about genetic modification (GM) contributing to ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    7 days ago
  • Class, Identity Politics and Transgender Ideology
    by Deirdre O’Neill Under Thatcher and then Blair and continuing up until our contemporary moment, the working class has seen its culture slowly and progressively destroyed. The change from an industrial society to a service society produced a marked shift in focus from the working class as the backbone of ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Irony
    Since 2013, the Australian government has detained refugees without trial in Pacific gulags, where they are abused, tortured, and driven to suicide. The policy is not just an abuse of human rights and possible crime against humanity; it has also had a corrosive effect on the states Australia uses as ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An age of protest.
    It seems fair to say that we currently live in a problematic political moment in world history. Democracies are in decline and dictatorships are on the rise. Primordial, sectarian and post-modern divisions have re-emerged, are on the rise or have been accentuated by political evolutions of the moment such as ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Another captured agency
    Last month, Greenpeace head Russel Norman surrendered his speaking slot at an EPA conference to student climate activist Sorcha Carr, who told the EPA exactly what she thought of them. It was a bold move, which confronted both regulators and polluters (or, as the EPA calls them, "stakeholders") with the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • NZ First’s dodgy loans
    The core principle supposedly underlying New Zealand's electoral finance regime is transparency: parties can accept large donations from rich people wanting to buy policy, but only if they tell the public they've been bought. Most parties abide by this, so we know that TOP was wholly-owned by Gareth Morgan, and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: The choice on End of Life Choice
    Today is a Member's Day, probably the second-to-last one of the year, and its a big one, with the Third Reading of David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill. last Member's Day it was reported back from committee, after MPs voted narrowly to make it subject to a (rules TBA) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • How growth in population and consumption drives planetary change
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz The growth of the human population over the last 70 ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • The disappearing Women …
    by The Council of Disobedient Women In her excellent oral submission to the Abortion reform select committee on 31st October on behalf of Otago University’s Department of Public Health, historian and public health researcher Hera Cook stated: “We would ask that the committee not use the term ‘pregnant persons’ and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • “A Passage to India”: enduring art in changing times
    by Don Franks In 1957, E M Forster wrote, of his greatest work: “The India described in ‘A Passage to India’ no longer exists either politically or socially. Change had begun even at the time the book was published ( 1924) and during the following quarter of a century it ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Contemptuous
    The Referendums Framework Bill was due back from select committee today. But there's no report on it. Instead, the bill has been bounced back to the House under Standing order 29593) because the Committee didn't bother to produce one. They probably tried. But given the membership of the committee (which ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Zero Carbon: It’s not just a good idea, it’s the law
    Two years into New Zealand’s Labour-led government, the long-delayed Zero Carbon Bill became law on 7 November. Passed essentially unanimously, the lengthy public debates and political manoeuvring faded away until the final passage was even anticlimactic: Flipping through the @nzstuff @DomPost I was starting to wonder if I’d dreamt ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: What happens next?
    Now the Zero Carbon Bill is law, what's next? Obviously, the ETS changes currently before select committee are going to be the next battleground. But we're also going to get a good idea of where we're going, and if the progress the Zero Carbon Act promises is good enough, during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate change will fuel bush fires
    Grant Pearce The effects of the current Australian bushfires in New South Wales and Queensland (and also again in California) are devastating and far-reaching. To date, the fires have resulted in several lives being lost and many homes and properties destroyed. Here in New Zealand, the impacts have been only ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Participation rates
    A passing comment in a post the other day about the labour force participation rates of older people prompted me to pull down the fuller data and see what we could see about various participation rates over the decades since the HLFS began in 1986.   As it happens, the ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Reddell
    1 week ago
  • Not So Much “OK Boomer” As “OK Ruling Class”.
    Distract And Divert: The rise of what we have come to call “Identity Politics” represents the ideological manifestation of the ruling class’s objective need to destroy class politics, and of the middle-class’s subjective need to justify their participation in the process.THE RELIEF of the ruling class can only be imagined. ...
    1 week ago
  • Asking for it …
    "I saw a newspaper picture,From the political campaignA woman was kissing a child,Who was obviously in pain.She spills with compassion,As that young child'sFace in her hands she gripsCan you imagine all that greed and avariceComing down on that child's lips?" ...
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand’s Poor Pandemic Preparedness According to the Global Health Security Index
    Dr Matt Boyd, Prof Michael Baker, Prof Nick Wilson The Global Health Security Index which considers pandemic threats has just been published. Unfortunately, NZ scores approximately half marks (54/100), coming in 35th in the world rankings – far behind Australia. This poor result suggests that the NZ Government needs to ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Thank Winston
    The Zero Carbon Act is inadequate, with a weak methane target designed to give farmers a free ride. But it turns out it could have been worse: Climate Change Minister James Shaw was so desperate to get National on board, he wanted to gut that target, and leave it in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Illicit markets and Bali Booze
    The Herald reprints an Australian story on a couple of tragic deaths in Bali from drinking cocktails that had methanol in them.  The story argues that methanol is likely the result of home distillation. But what the young tourists were experiencing was far from a hangover. They’d consumed a toxic cocktail ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    1 week ago
  • This is not what armed police are for
    Last month, the police announced a trial of specialist roaming armed units, which would drive round (poor, brown) areas in armoured SUVs, armed to the teeth. When they announced the trial, they told us it was about having armed police "ready to attend major incidents at any time if needed". ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Spain’s failed electoral gamble
    Spain went to the polls today in the second elections this year, after the Socialists (who had come to power in a confidence vote, then gone to the polls in April) rejected the offer of a coalition with the left-wing PoDemos, and instead decided to gamble n a better outcome ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The astroturf party
    National has finally rolled out its "BlueGreen" astroturf party, fronted by an array of former nats and people who were dumped by the Greens for not being Green enough. Its initial pitch is described by Stuff as "very business-friendly", and its priorities are what you'd expect: conservation, predator-free funding, a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • How to cheat at university
    A couple of days ago I attended (and spoke at) the University of Waikato’s “LearnFest” event. There were lots of talks and sessions on very diverse aspects of teaching, mostly at tertiary level. One was by Myra Williamson from Te Piringa Faculty of Law here at Waikato, on Contract Cheating ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    1 week ago
  • How NZ was put on world maps using a transit of Mercury
    There will be a transit of Mercury – the planet Mercury will pass across the face of the Sun – taking place at sunrise in New Zealand on Tuesday, 12th November. It was by observing such an event 250 years ago that James Cook and his scientist colleagues were able ...
    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    1 week ago
  • Georgina Beyer: We need to be able to talk without being offended
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The anti-fluoride brigade won’t be erecting billboards about this study
    If FFNZ really put their faith in “Top Medical Journals” they would now be amending their billboards to recognise new research results. Image from FFNZ but updated to agree with the latest research. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Chosen To Rule? What Sort Of Christian Is Chris Luxon?
    National Messiah? Chris Luxon identifies himself as an evangelical Christian. If he is genuine in this self-characterisation, then he will take every opportunity his public office provides to proselytise on behalf of his faith. He will also feel obliged to bear witness against beliefs and practices he believes to be ...
    2 weeks ago
  • War of the worms
    I'm going to make a Reckless Prediction™ that the Tories have 'topped out' in the 'poll of polls' / Britain Elects multipoll tracker at about 38%, and in the next week we will start to see Labour creep up on them.In fact, we might just be seeing the start of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Marvelly shows us how to be a feminist without feminism
    by The Council of Disobedient Women Lizzie Marvelly: “I may have missed this… has @afterellen gone all terf-y? Or am I reading something incorrectly? “ https://twitter.com/LizzieMarvelly/status/1191840059105742849 After Ellen is a lesbian website that is unashamedly pro-lesbian, as you’d expect. So why is Ms Marvelly so bothered about lesbians having their ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Out of the past – Tories to revive racist laws from the 16th century
    Did you know there once was a time when it was illegal to be a gypsy (aka Romani) in Britain?That was between 1530, when the Egyptians Act was passed, and 1856, when it was repealed.Amongst other things, the act forbade the entry of 'Egyptians' into England, ordered those already there ...
    2 weeks ago
  • 1000 of these now
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    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Shane Jones Just Saved NZ First?
    Counter-Puncher: The “activists” and “radicals” (his own words) from the Indian community who took such strong exception to Shane Jones’ remarks about Immigration NZ’s treatment of arranged marriages, may end up bitterly regretting their intervention. Jones is not the sort of person who turns the other cheek to his critics.SHANE ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: As predicted
    Yesterday, when National voted for the Zero Carbon Bill, I predicted they'd gut it the moment they regained power, just as they had done to the ETS. And indeed, they have explicitly promised to do exactly that within their first hundred days in office. What would their amendments do? Abandon ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Let this never be forgot
    In the spirit of Remember, remember the fifth of November, let's keep this in mind FOREVER.
    Oh dear. Extraordinary interview on PM with Andrew Bridgen and @EvanHD just now. Bridgen was defending Jacob Rees Mogg’s Grenfell comments. Evan asked him if JRM had meant to say he would have left ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Too Late To Change Capitalism’s Flightpath?
    Collision Course? In conditions of ideological white-out, the international bankers’ “Woop-Woop! Pull Up!” warning may have come too late to save global capitalism.WHAT DOES IT MEAN when international bankers are more willing to embrace radical solutions than our politicians and their electors? At both the International Monetary Fund and the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Whooping cough vaccine works well despite its imperfections
    Pertussis (whooping cough) is a conundrum. It is a disease that was described hundreds of years ago and the bacteria that causes it (Bordetella pertussis) isolated in 1906. We have had vaccines for about 80 years but this disease is defiant in the face of human immunity. I wanted to ...
    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Passed
    The Zero Carbon Bill has just passed its third reading, uanimously. In the end, National supported it - but we all know they'll turn around and gut it the moment they regain power. Meanwhile, I guess ACT's David Seymour didn't even bother to show up. I am on record as ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Retailing of vaping products – New NZ Research
    Dr Lindsay Robertson, Dr Jerram Bateman, Professor Janet Hoek Members of the public health community hold divergent views on how access to vaping products or electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS) products should be arranged. Some believe ENDS should be as widely available as smoked tobacco and argue for liberal ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • Justice for Bomber
    When the Police were trying to cover up for the National Party over Dirty Politics, they went all-in with their abuses of power. They illegally search Nicky Hager's house, violating his journalistic privilege and invading his privacy. They unlawfully acquired Hager's bank records. They did the same to left-wing blogger ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Britain’s climate tyranny was unlawful
    Last month, in response to a wave of protests by Extinction Rebellion, the British government purported to ban their protests from the whole of London. It was a significant interference with the freedoms of expression and assembly, and another sign of the country's decline into tyranny. But now, a court ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

  • Cowboy clampers will be stymied
    Clayton Mitchell, Spokesperson for Consumer Affairs The ‘wheel clamping’ Bill that will cap clamper fees to $100 passed its third reading in Parliament today. New Zealand First welcomes The Land Transport (Wheel Clamping) Amendment Bill to combat predatory wheel clamping behaviour in what is currently a largely unregulated business. Cowboy clampers are: gouging ...
    18 hours ago
  • Mental Health Commission back on track
    Jenny Marcroft, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First welcomes the passage of the Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill through its first reading in Parliament. “Today’s progress takes serious action on the mental health and addiction crisis the country is facing,” says New Zealand First Health Spokesperson Jenny Marcroft. “The re-establishment ...
    18 hours ago
  • New Zealand’s key assets are not for sale: national interest test delivered
    Mark Patterson, Spokesperson for Primary Industries Today the Government announced the delivery of the promise to protect New Zealand interests by applying a new National Interest Test to the sales of our most sensitive and high risk assets to overseas buyers. This further strengthening of the Overseas Investment Act will ...
    2 days ago
  • National interest test added to protect New Zealanders’ interests
    The Coalition Government is delivering on its promise to protect New Zealanders’ interests by applying a new national interest test to the sales of our most sensitive and high-risk assets to overseas buyers. Under current Overseas Investment Act (OIA) rules, assets such as ports and airports, telecommunications infrastructure, electricity and ...
    2 days ago
  • Electoral law breach allegations
    Rt Winston Peters, Leader of New Zealand First Allegations raised this morning by Stuff Limited / Fairfax concern a party matter but I am confident that New Zealand First has operated within electoral laws, now and for the last 27 years. Declarable donations were declared to the Electoral Commission. Our ...
    2 days ago
  • Wayne Brown hits back at critics: Ports of Auckland has to move
    The chairman of the Upper North Island Supply Chain Strategy (UNISCS) working group, Wayne Brown, has hit back at critics of his group’s recommendations to relocate the Ports of Auckland cargo operations to Whangarei’s deepwater port of Northport. The working group's recommendation to close Auckland waterfront to all but cruise ...
    2 days ago
  • Week That Was: Supporting our schools
    We're setting our young people up for success, investing in education around the country.  ...
    3 days ago
  • Kiwis to have their say on End of Life Choice
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First backs the public to decide on the End of Life Choice Bill via a referendum at the 2020 General Election. The Bill, with New Zealand First’s referendum provision incorporated, passed its final reading in Parliament this evening. New Zealand First Spokesperson for ...
    7 days ago
  • Addressing miscarriages of justice
    Darroch Ball, Spokesperson for Justice New Zealand First is proud that a key Coalition Agreement commitment which will provide for a more transparent and effective criminal justice system has been realised. Legislation to establish the Criminal Cases Review Commission, an independent body focused on identifying and responding to possible miscarriages of ...
    1 week ago
  • Week That Was: Historic action on climate change
    "Today we have made a choice that will leave a legacy... I hope that means that future generations will see that we, in New Zealand, were on the right side of history." - Jacinda Ardern, Third Reading of the Zero Carbon Bill ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Tax-free deployments for Kiwi troops
    Darroch Ball, New Zealand First List MP A Member’s bill has been proposed that would provide income tax exemptions for all New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel while on operational deployment overseas. The Income Tax (Exemption for Salary or Wages of NZDF Members on Active Deployment) Amendment Bill proposed by New Zealand First ...
    2 weeks ago
  • A balanced Zero Carbon Bill passed
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, New Zealand First Leader New Zealand First is proud to have brought common sense to the Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill, which passed its final reading in Parliament today. Party Leader Rt Hon Winston Peters says months of hard work went into negotiating a balanced ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Paramedics’ status to be recognised
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First has listened to calls to recognise paramedics as registered health professionals under the Health Practitioners’ Competence Assurance Act (the Act). Today, the Coalition Government announced plans for paramedics to be registered as health practitioners under the Act, and the establishment of a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Week That Was: 2,000 teachers in two years
    We began the week by commemorating the New Zealand Wars and celebrating a major increase in the number of teachers. Then, we were busy supporting offenders into work and getting our rail back on track after years of underinvestment. And that's just the start! ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Winning an election one conversation at a time
    In October I was sworn in as the Mayor of Lower Hutt. It’s the privilege of my life to serve Hutt people as their Mayor. There is something really special to be able to serve the community where I was raised, and where I live.   ...
    3 weeks ago

  • APEC 2021 Bill passes first reading
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has welcomed the first reading of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation 2021 (APEC 2021) Bill in Parliament today. The temporary bill supports New Zealand’s security preparations for hosting the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Forum in 2021. “APEC is the leading economic and trade forum ...
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  • Making progress for our kids
    The Government is making progress on improving the wellbeing of the one million New Zealanders under the age of 18,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on World Children’s Day. The Government has today recommitted to the most widely ratified human rights treaty in history – the United Nation’s Convention on ...
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  • Māori women in business contribute to our economy, whānau and communities
    Minister for Women Julie Anne Genter has released a new report celebrating the contribution of Māori women in business across Aotearoa New Zealand. “Māori women are leaders in our communities, they employ many people and support our economy and our communities,” Julie Anne Genter said. The report, Ngā wāhine kaipakihi: ...
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  • Two schools on the way for Omokoroa
    Four parcels of land have been bought in Omokoroa, in the Western Bay of Plenty District, for an education facility that will accommodate both a primary and secondary school on a campus-like facility, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. Two parcels were acquired from private land owners and two were ...
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  • Families Package helps over 1 million New Zealanders in first year
    1 million New Zealanders warmed by the Winter Energy Payment 36,000 families bank the Best Start Payment in first year 6,000 more families received the Family Tax Credit, 220,600 in total   They receive an increase too – from an average of $117 to $157 a week for Inland Revenue clients, ...
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  • Clamp down on wheel clamping passes third reading
    New rules to clamp down on overzealous wheel clamping and extortionate fees charged in order to release a vehicle have passed their final stage in Parliament today. The Land Transport (Wheel Clamping) Amendment Bill has now passed its third reading. “These changes mean $100 will be the maximum wheel clamping ...
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  • Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill passes first hurdle
    An independent Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission is a step closer after it unanimously passed its first vote in Parliament today.  The Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill lays the groundwork for establishing the Commission as a fully independent crown entity – delivering on a key recommendation of He Ara ...
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  • Boosting border security with electronic travel authority – now over 500,000 issued
    We’ve improved border security with the NZeTA, New Zealand Electronic Travel Authority, which helps us to screen travellers for border and immigration risks off-shore before they travel to New Zealand. It was launched in August and became mandatory on 1 October 2019. More than 500,000 NZeTAs have been issued since ...
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  • Plan of action to protect seabirds
    A proposed national plan of action to reduce the number of seabirds caught in fisheries is being circulated for public feedback. Fisheries Minister Stuart Nash and Conservation Minister Eugenie Sage say New Zealand is a global centre of seabird diversity with about 145 species in our waters. It has more ...
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  • National interest test added to overseas investment rules
    The Government is delivering on its promise to protect New Zealanders’ interests by applying a new national interest test to the sales of our most sensitive and high risk assets to overseas buyers. Associate Finance Minister David Parker said under current Overseas Investment Act rules, assets such as ports and ...
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  • New housing part of support for Kaumātua
    The Government is building special housing to accommodate one of Aotearoa’s greatest taonga- our kaumātua, says the Minister for Māori Development, Hon Nanaia Mahuta.  Speaking at a National Kaumātua Service Providers Conference in Rotorua today, the Minister reinforced the importance kaumātua play in maintaining and passing on mātauranga Māori, knowledge, ...
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  • Forestry helps prisoners into jobs
    Eleven men from a pilot forestry training programme for prisoners in Northland now have full time jobs or job offers upon release, Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis and Forestry Minister Shane Jones announced today. The ‘release to work’ programme was a collaboration between Te Uru Rākau and the Department of Corrections, ...
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  • Reform of public service a step closer
    Minister of State Services Chris Hipkins today introduced into Parliament a Bill that will make it easier for the public service to tackle the biggest challenges facing Governments. The Bill represents the most significant change in the public service in 30 years. The State Sector Act 1988 will be repealed ...
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  • Donations scheme to relieve pressure on families
    The families of more than 416,000 students will be better off next year as their schools have signed up to the Government’s donations scheme, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. The scheme will see almost $62.5 million in additional Government funding go to schools nationwide next year. “I’m really pleased ...
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  • Further support for Samoan measles outbreak
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has announced further support as the Government of Samoa responds to a serious measles outbreak. “New Zealand will deploy a further 18 vaccination nurses, bringing the total to 30 working in Samoa over the next four weeks,” Mr Peters said. “A New Zealand Medical Assistance ...
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  • Speech to the Child Poverty Action Group 2019 Summit
      Fa’atalofa atu, malo e lelei, Kia ora koutou katoa Thank you to the Child Poverty Action Group for asking me to be here today to provide an update on some of the things that have been happening across my the social development portfolio.  Can I firstly acknowledge the vast ...
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  • Speech to the New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing Annual Conference
    ***Please check against delivery*** Good morning everyone. It is a pleasure to be with you this morning to open this year’s New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing Conference and AGM. Firstly, thank you Dr Alan Jackson, NZTR Chair for your introduction. And let us acknowledge also: The NZTR Board; Dean McKenzie, Chair ...
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  • Fairer rules for tenants and landlords
    The Government has delivered on its promise to the over one million New Zealanders who now rent to make it fairer and more secure, Associate Minister of Housing (Public Housing) Kris Faafoi has announced today. Both renters and landlords will benefit from the suite of practical changes to the Residential ...
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  • Two decades of marine protection celebrated at Te Tapuwae o Rongokako in Tairawhiti
    A marine conservation milestone - the 20th anniversary of the establishment of Te Tapuwae o Rongokako Marine Reserve - is being celebrated today at a community event in Tairāwhiti/East Coast attended by the Minister of Conservation, Eugenie Sage. “The creation of this marine reserve in November 1999 was a game ...
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  • Food industry asked to step up fight against obesity
         The Government is asking the food industry to step up work to tackle obesity including reducing sugar, fat and salt in their products, better information for consumers, and tighter restrictions on advertising to children. Health Minister David Clark and Food Safety Minister Damien O’Connor have responded to a ...
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  • Modern emergency care for Queenstown area
    ew, modern emergency department and outpatient facilities at Queenstown’s Lakes District Hospital mean better emergency care for the growing tourist mecca’s visitors and locals, says Health Minister David Clark. Today Dr Clark officially opened the hospital’s redeveloped Emergency Department and Outpatient facilities. The new facilities include: •    An extended Emergency Department ...
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  • Contraception important for New Zealanders
    Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter says today’s release of sexual and reproductive health data reinforces the significance of the Government’s commitment to providing free or very low-cost contraception. The Ministry of Health today published statistics from the Ministry of Health’s 2014/15 Health Survey. “It is important people can make ...
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  • NZ medical staff and measles vaccines going to Samoa
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced that at the request of the Samoan Government, New Zealand will be providing further support to Samoa as it faces a worsening measles outbreak. “In response to a request from the people of Samoa, New Zealand is providing 3000 measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) ...
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  • Disability Action Plan 2019 – 2023
    “The new Disability Action Plan 2019–2023 moves us towards the inclusive and accessible New Zealand that this government has committed to,” Minister for Disability Issues Carmel Sepuloni announced today.  “The Action Plan was designed by disabled people, their family and supporters, the disability sector and government agencies. It will ensure ...
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  • Joint Statement – Third Singapore-New Zealand Defence Ministers’ Meeting
    Third Singapore-New Zealand Defence Ministers’ Meeting 14 November 2019 Joint Statement 1. Defence Ministers Ron Mark and Dr Ng Eng Hen today conducted their third annual Singapore-New Zealand Defence Ministers’ Meeting in Singapore. 2. Building on the Enhanced Partnership signed between both countries in May this year, this annual meeting ...
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  • Sexual Violence Legislation Bill has its first reading
    A Bill to improve the court system’s response to sexual violence has passed its first reading in Parliament today. Justice Minister Andrew Little says the Sexual Violence Legislation Bill will reduce the trauma sexual violence complainants experience in court, while maintaining defendants’ fundamental rights and making sure the trial process ...
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  • Streamlined business invoicing a step closer
    Streamlined payment practices are a step closer for Kiwi businesses with the formal launch of New Zealand’s e-Invoicing framework. Small Business Minister Stuart Nash says the government has now established the structure to enable automated and direct data exchange between the accounting systems of buyers and sellers. “The move to ...
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  • More frontline biosecurity officers protecting NZ
    Another 51 quarantine officers and four new biosecurity detector dog teams will help protect New Zealand from invasive pests and diseases this summer, says Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor. “The Government is delivering on its commitment to strengthen New Zealand’s biosecurity system and support our valuable primary sector “New Zealand’s flora, fauna ...
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  • NZ space economy worth $1.69 billion
    A new report has found New Zealand’s space sector contributed $1.69 billion to the economy in the last financial year and employs 12,000 people, Minister for Economic Development Phil Twyford announced today. The report by Deloitte was commissioned by the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment and shows New Zealand ...
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  • New Chair for Royal Commission into Abuse
    Judge Coral Shaw has been appointed as the new Chair of the Royal Commission into Historical Abuse in State Care and in the Care of Faith-based Institutions, Internal Affairs Minister Tracey Martin announced today. "Judge Shaw, who is currently one of the inquiry commissioners, is extremely well qualified for the ...
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  • Better mental health facilities for Palmerston North
    The Government has confirmed its third major mental health facility upgrade since the Budget, this time at Palmerston North Hospital. The Prime Minister and Health Minister today visited MidCentral DHB to announce that $30 million has been allocated to upgrade its acute mental health facility. It follows earlier announcements in ...
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  • Bowel Screening hits halfway point
    The roll out of the National Bowel Screening Programme has reached the halfway mark, with 10 out of 20 District Health Boards now part of the programme. MidCentral DHB, which covers Palmerston North, Manawatu and surrounding districts, this week became the latest to DHB to offer free bowel screening to ...
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  • More vaccines for meningococcal disease
    The Government welcomes PHARMAC’s decision to fund a vaccine to protect young people from meningococcal disease from 1 December this year. “Meningococcal disease is a serious threat which people at higher risk should be protected from,” says Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter. “The combined pharmaceutical budget was increased by ...
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  • Fisheries innovation projects supported
    Groups involved with innovative fisheries research projects are encouraged to apply for government support in the latest funding round from the Sustainable Food and Fibre Futures programme. Fisheries Minister Stuart Nash says the SFF Futures funding is designed to be flexible enough to support small or large projects across a ...
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  • Government fixes culturally arranged marriage visa issue
    The Government has fixed an issue affecting how Immigration New Zealand has processed visa applications for culturally arranged marriages, which will now see a consistent process applied which ensures people with legitimate arranged marriages can visit New Zealand while also preventing any rorting of the system. Earlier this year Immigration ...
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  • Extension for Royal Commission into Mosque attacks
    The Royal Commission into the Attacks on Christchurch Mosques will report back on 30 April 2020 to give it more time to hear submissions and consider information, Internal Affairs Minister Tracey Martin announced today. The Royal Commission was originally scheduled to report back to Government by 10 December 2019. “There has ...
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  • Terrorism and Trade on agenda as Foreign Minister visits the United States
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters will travel to Washington DC today to attend a ministerial meeting focused on defeating ISIS, and to continue pursuing New Zealand’s trade opportunities. Mr Peters will participate in a meeting of Foreign and Defence Ministers from key countries contributing to the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS. ...
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  • Hoiho get extra support alongside 168 community conservation groups backing nature
    The recently crowned Bird of the Year, the hoiho/yellow eyed penguin, is getting a much needed helping hand alongside more than 168 other community conservation projects announced Minister for Conservation Eugenie Sage today. 168 community conservation projects throughout New Zealand are benefiting from $8 million in government grants, including $500,000 ...
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  • New safety measures for modified pistols
    Controls on assault rifles and semi-automatic firearms are to be broadened to include some types of pistols, under changes to a bill currently making its way through Parliament. Police Minister Stuart Nash has tabled a Supplementary Order Paper to the Arms Legislation Bill, which is currently before a Select Committee ...
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  • Minister of Defence to visit Singapore and Thailand
    Minister of Defence Ron Mark will travel to Singapore today to conduct a counterpart visit and to co-chair the third annual Singapore-New Zealand Defence Ministers’ Meeting with his counterpart, Minister for Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen. “Singapore is one of our most important defence partners in the region, and our ...
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