A National Government led New Zealand has voted with the majority of the world in Legitimising the Palestinian cause.
While the Labour Government of Australia abstained.
Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Bob Carr cited “intense pressure” on the Australian government from the US to actively vote against the resolution as the reason for their abstention.
No doubt the same sort of “intense pressure” would have come down on our government too. But instead of buckling and taking the weak and cowardly escape route from this pressure by abstaining. To their credit our government resisted this pressure and came down on the side of justice and decency.
There are questions raised by this anomaly.
How would a Labour Party in office react to such intense US pressure?
Would a Shearer led Labour government have buckled to US pressure as the Australian Labour Government have?
Why has the Labour Leader been silent on this issue?
Why when it has been carried in virtually every other media have there been no posts from The Standard authors on this historic UN vote?
Are the writers for The Standard and the Labour Party so sectarian that they won’t give credit to the government even when it is due?
Is this the reason for The Standard’s silence on this historic event?
If so then it shows why Labour is losing the people’s support. This sort of sectarian pettiness is just boring to most people.
Jenny, “The Standard” doesn’t decide to write or not to write on anything. The Standard is not part of the Labour Party. I have not party voted for Labour for a few elections. Each writer chooses what to write about when they have time. There are many pressing issues relevant to left wing NZ’ers.
Of course celebrate the historic decision. You also should refresh you knowledge of the site policies.
Who would know? As the New Zealand website that has anything to say on the issue, despite two requests for inclusion from myself, has still not been added to The Standard blog roll.
But if you are interested I will provide you some of the latest links.
Fuck off, Jenny. I said it on Twitter when I first saw your comment and I’ll say it again: I, for one, cannot be bothered with the pointless circular flamewar which any post on Israel/Palestine is likely to incite.
Implying that The Standard’s authors are involved in a conspiracy to not post about a certain issue is fucking ludicrous and probably likely to invoke moderator wrath. Didn’t you get a clue on that subject after the Cunliffe leadership beat-up?
Fuck off, Jenny. I said it on Twitter when I first saw your comment and I’ll say it again: I, for one, cannot be bothered with the pointless circular flamewar which any post on Israel/Palestine is likely to incite.
QoT
Thanks Thorns for providing us with your succinct rationalisation for self censorship.
But do you have to be such a potty mouth? This is, after all (hopefully). a family friendly website.
Jenny Jenny Jenny… I now this might come as a surprise to you but the english language includes lots of swear words, swear words that can be used on most blogs within reason to support an argument. As you’re clearly not new to The Standard, you should know that QoT’s clever use of various obscenities is well within the bounds of the moderation policy.
In fact the appropriate use of swear words like QoT’s ‘fuck off’ above is most appropriate and lends itself to the context of the debate by succinctly expressing distaste with your assertions. Fuck is also on the very light side of profanity and these days would only offend those who cannot debate the topic or prudes. Unfortunately your response means I cannot rule you out of fitting comfortably into both these clichés.
I was wondering why the government didn’t cave in to U.S. pressure too. Much as I’m grateful for it doing the right thing the cynic in me sees a trade with the Middle East position here, and a negotiating position with the U.S. – just letting them know that our interests lie in trade. Roll on the TPP.
Yes, while I was pleased to see Palestine get this bit of recognition (though not full member status), my mind yesterday was on some other pressing concerns for Kiwis – like the TPP and Bennett’s nasty little welfare reform bill that started getting submissions.
Agreed, CV. I almost commented that as well, but haven’t seen any MSM comment on how China voted.
Jenny. I signed an on-line petition demanding John Key sign for the UN inclusion of Palestine. The petition was circulated because there was doubt that Key would sign. Perhaps that petition persuaded Key, who knows. By the way, I am a Labour/Green supporter but I don’t see why I should give credit to National for doing a good thing, one of the very few good things they have done, it’s the least they could have done.
Rimutaka Electorate under threat from a weak Labour MP.
SInce Chris Hipkins was handed Paul Swain’s seat in 2008 it has been downhill for Labour and up, up and up for National in the Rimutaka Electorate (Upper Hutt).
Chris Hipkins is letting the National candidate, Jonathan Fletcher, eat his lunch and has no response. Seemingly Chris only likes fighting Labour people at Conferences and on TV. Chris is sitting in his comfort zone, the Parliamentary offices and Bellamy’s, where he previously played at being a staffer for Mallard, while Fletcher is hitting the streets of Upper Hutt.
Have a look at these figures:
The Labour party vote went from 48% in 2005 to 33% in 2011, while National went from 34% to 45% at the same time. The same poor performance also applies to the Electorate vote. Swain’s 55% has become Hipkin’s 51%, while Fletcher took the 2005 30% to 42% in 2011.
Hipkin’s intemperate behaviour at Conference and on TV has lost him much of the little personal local support he had. He never had much experience outside of the isolated space that is the Labour offices.
Maybe Rimutaka needs a more temperate and personable candidate in 2014.
Yes, well I’m a dyed in the wool, never voted for anything else other than Labour votor — and I sure as hell won’t be giving that little creep my vote in the next election!
Hipkins has fallen on his face as a whip, in his rush to get a portfolio. Whips who do not have the respect of the majority of Caucus become ineffectual.
Flunking in the electorate AND in his first adult role is a poor show. Screaming at members at Conference was damaging. Calling Cunliffe a liar on TV was obnoxious.
Was he trying to emulate Mallard? Is there something wrong with him?
Labour Party membership numbers in Rimutaka are not as healthy as they once were.
Not that they have ever been that strong, but according to locals under Hipkins the trend has been less promising. It may mark the over-emphasis he has on internal caucus activities and an under-emphasis on building up the party presence in his own electorate.
Well, I’m a member – what’s the process for getting him pushed from within and getting someone else?
Not even sure what the forum is for gauging local members’ support for dumping him
I’m not sure that I would condone a hostile de-selection of a sitting MP as it is a big step. To be serious, you would want to source a copy of the party’s constitution and become very familiar with all the relevant sections.
I’m assuming that there is some sort of democratic process whereby electorate candidates are selected.
As I say, I don’t know how this works, but surely if the members want a different representative it is their right to vote for a new one.
As for him being a sitting MP, It may well be that after the next election he will be that only if his list position is high enough.
As is said above, he is bleeding support amongst the general population of the electorate. The Nats spent a relatively large amount of resources in the electorate prior to the last election, I think because they smelt blood on the water.
This all adds up to a very tenuous position in what used to be a pretty red seat, both for party vote and electorate.
Adding the fact that he is, in my opinion, not a suitable candidate for me, as a consistent Labour voter to vote for leads me to believe that, should the local members be in the same mindset, he should be removed and replaced.
Actually, fuck it, I just read down comments regarding Tamihere.
If I can make some small contribution to taking out these bastards one at a time – I’m in.
There is a story going around the traps. In the house. Hipkins stands on the half million Ingram report on field. Even then he still comes across as school kid.
“It’s a sad indictment on society that this wee girl, there’s nowhere that she can go to be safe and so we leave her with a mother who is refusing a drug test even after she’s killed the little girl’s elder sister. It makes me feel ill.”
That quote appears to be a complete misrepresentation of the situation. Not surprising though, it’s from the sensible sentencing people. From what I can tell the child is being left with the mother, because to remove her at this stage would be incredibly damaging to the child. The judge made it clear that if that weren’t the case, the woman would go to jail.
Sensible sentencing would be to give the woman prescribed drugs, so she stops having to spend so much money on meth. Give her the support to stabilise her life. Those things will help the child.
Lyndon Hood’s latest, This Movie Sucks: NZ politics is a middle-earth script, and Hood makes a pitch to be a new writer for it.
How do I get a job with this nest of genius satirists?…
The older generation of satirists came out of newsrooms, but there seems to have been some kind of handover to a new team without so much journalistic experience. Bloggers, probably. Artsy types who don’t have that strong a grip of policy issues. Don’t quite grasp how it’s supposed to work. They’ll be the ones who decided to make a renegade German file sharer the most politically effective person in the country.
But they miss important details. Like how the ministers keep talking about the Treasury’s surplus as if that’s the same thing as fixing the national economy. That’s silly….
It’s hardly Shakespearian.
(Speaking of which: ‘Cunliffe wanders mad in the wilderness, giving stirring speeches to trees and rock on the need for economic management that reflect the real needs of the people.’ You can have that one for free.)
Or I could do the media: I have an idea for a subplot where they all start doing policy analysis.
But ultimately I’d like to do an episode of John Key. Who wouldn’t? The legendary postmodern horror story of a PM who only grows stronger the more he is mocked – to the point where his personal embarrassments provide a useful distraction from ongoing trainwrecks around actual policies. Whose actually name is (qui?) a dry multilingual pun. Love your work, Braunias.
No wonder Key is behind NZ doing some Dr Who eps! It’s a rellie of his!
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(we’ll be here 24/7 bringing you the best of what the Left has to offer, spinning those Platters 360 with
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So Joe, where do you see it all heading then, if you had to voice more than just some links, and actually put up a projection of how you saw things playing out, say over the nexy 10-30 years?
In a nutshell muzza, human activities appear to be influencing the planets heat sink, the oceans, and warmer water will contribute more moisture to the equatorial atmosphere so larger systems of longer duration pushing further north/south will be generated causing a rising number of severe weather events and dramatic shifts in rainfall distribution that will almost certainly result in agricultural/oceanic resource catastrophes which, when coupled with other resource shortages, will create conflict.
A survey of New Zealand postgraduate students has found that 40% are thinking of giving up studying because their eligibility for the student allowance is being stripped away next year.
That particular issue was raised by Green co-leader Metiria Turei today on Q+A… Both Judith Collins and Peter Dunne scoffed at her. Meanwhile they spread their propaganda on thickly about needing to increase innovation through education, but as I see it their policy changes are at complete odds with ensuring New Zealand has enough trained and skilled graduates to meet demand.
A potential 40% decline in graduations shouldn’t be simply dismissed by saying the research is incorrect. I mean how many times can National say the statistics showing their utter failure as a government are wrong and get away with it?
Fancy that! John Armstrong is praising Labour for getting its act together. And under Mr Shearer’s leadership too: Bold policy is a return to the old ways, and a worry for National.
Housing, a big part of Shearer’s keynote conference speech, is Labour’s bold policy focus as it promises to build 100,000 affordable homes in 10 years.
Housing, a big part of Shearer’s keynote conference speech, is Labour’s bold policy focus as it promises to build 100,000 affordable homes in 10 years. Photo / Mark Mitchell
NZ has been a financial hub for the globally corrupted since 1961 when we were handed over to the IMF/WB and thus those who sit behind those entities!
Most everything that has become wrong with/in NZ, stems from that! We handed over the gold reserves and most likely signed away rights to resources under the “conditions” of the loans received at the time, which would account for the way we the the DI.MI.SI attitude going!
Seeing the handover of our dairy industry now in full flight, farm debt a huge problem, having already lost control of food production by and large, along with the disputed water rights and energy generation, will complete the removal on NZ to ever be able to self sustain, we are at the mercy of foreign controlled entities, and we have not/will not be shown mercy, just look at what is going on to understand.
Personal Debt, City Debt, Farm Debt, Student Debt, National Debt!
New Lows In Broadcasting & Has National Started A Smear Campaign Against Winston Peters/ NZ First?
I saw what I thought was a disgusting news item on TV 3 the other night. At the centre of the headline is NZ First MP Brendan Horan. The story first surfaced on Sunday in print & tv, in all intent & purpose it to appeared to be a family dispute over a late mothers estate not uncommon when $$ involved. Hearing Winston Peters explain a family member had approached him some months ago with allegations against Horan, Peters said “show me some proof of any wrong doing” according to Peters ‘that never happened.’ Then this character goes to the media with a copy of a amendment document to their late Mothers Will, for all in sundry to see. An extremely vexatious & bizarre thing to do to a family member with a such a public profile. It seemed ‘suspect’ to hear she was terminally ill when the amendment was made. Having sadly known people in that state, drugs provides relief from pain, at the price of being mentally muddled as a result. So to me keeping an open mind, an element of duress has to be considered.
Back to the TV 3 news item that was bad taste & what aroused my suspicions of a politically motivated attack. What I found offensive was the filming at the Horan’s families late mothers grave site. In my view this was a bridge too far & breached decency from the broadcaster. Totally unacceptable & disrespectful to a family still morning the death ( died August ) of a loved one.
Secondly the reporter Brooke Sabin appeared to
the group I was watching the item with to show a sycophantic pleasure in covering this story. One of our group said “I wonder if he is related to National, Northland PM Mike Sabin?”
Bingo! It just happens to be the reporter Brook Sabin is Mike Sabin’s son!
Winston Peters & Mike Sabin have a history of bad blood. Without appearing to be a conspiracy theorist is it a coincidence his son took up this story? and is it the start of a politically motived attack to knock Peters out again? Have Crosby Texter had a part to play?
Your Opinions would be great 🙂
Skinny. I had a similar reaction to to about the hounding of Brendan Horan by that twerp on TV3. Seems that those worms like Garner, Gower etc enjoy hounding politicians from all parties EXCEPT National and Act. Biased?
Marsman yes it wouldn’t surprise me if Nat daddy got straight on the blower to his son Brook, had him chase for the story & inflict as much damage as he could milk. NZ First have got a few runs on the board lately against Key & Co. I can recall Horan championing something against the Nats in the House & in the media a few months back, so any opportunity to smear him sounds about right.
Did I not hear/read that Horan’s mother made a codicil a few mnonths before she died, at that same time two Doctor’s signed affidavits that she was fully “complis mentis” to make such a codicil so that nobody could say she was not right in her dottage.
Fox ‘someone’ has obviously put her up to do that. Did that someone call a family meeting to raise their concerns as you would? Or did they choose not too? It appears the later to me which is harsh on a lady dying. Another negative against that person.
Peters has done the right thing in standing Horan down. While a forensic anaylsis of Horan’s mother’s bank account is being done the media will feast on the statements of those involved. If Horan is defamed he can take this further and Peters comes out clean and he can then say it was a media beat up. If Horan has made false statements Peter’s will probably dump him if Horan does not resign. Peters has principles compared to Key.
Horan’s mother is being exploited by the media and family members appear to be in for the cash grab.
I want to know why the family did not appoint a lawyer to arrange the mother’s will when she was alive?
[ deep sigh ] A complete rinse and repeat from the climate change denialists, complete with reverential reference to the “Hockey Stick Illusion”. What is it with these people – do they think that if they repeat their lies often enough the science will disappear? In this instance, though, they are ignoring the science and attempting an “Unsworth” – attack the messenger. I beginning to wonder if perhaps the planet needs a climate catastrophe to bestir the somnamulent.
Actually, that’s exactly what they think. Or at least if they repeat the lies often enough, the science will be disguised by the impression that there is still fair-minded debate about the basics. So therefore the science that is reported is “balanced” by the other side of the “debate”. So the reality of the situation is disguised from as many people for as long as possible.
Going from LP’s random selective bans for “pointless abuse”, that should be getting you a week McFlock!
The week I got was helpful to appreciate that people just can’t/won’t see what is going on around them, perhaps its all just too much, perhaps they don’t have the faculties, most likely a combo of these, and more…
If my post seem more blunt at times, its because my patience for whats happening to NZ is running way out, and for those who won’t wrap their fat heads around the why, ran out long ago, so blunt it will be, along the way!
RL – No it was a serious question, as I was going to give a first hand account of what I have just seen happen in the AKL district courts but thought better of it, good call!
Frankly its getting too easy to be banned, and the reasons I am getting banned are not remotely evenly applied elsewhere, which indicates someone(s) have a got a beef.
As I said to LP its his sandpit, you guys police it, do what you want.
Just apply some consistancy, it looks like bias otherwise!
[RL: If you were trying to make a serious point you went about it very maladroitly. To the point where it just looked like nasty, unimaginative abuse to me and everyone else. I’ll give you one shot at convincing me there was more to this than what it looked like; otherwise the two weeks stands.
Moderation is not a machine; it’s a loose collective of people trying to read many hundreds of comments a day over a number of active threads. We’ll never be objective or consistent, and I’ve yet to see anyone we’ve ever moderated think we were being’fair’ at the time.]
I didn’t understand muzza’s comment to McFlock (it was completely context-less and then later not explained). But muzza did comment a couple of weeks ago, seriously, about child abuse rings, so I assumed the comment today was from something they have been thinking about.
It’s not my call, but I saw the comment as social ineptness or disconnect rather than tr*lling.
Hi Weka, there a a small number on these boards who have the nous to try take in wider context than any singular days posts, so good on you for that.
@ RL – Short version – For most of this year ive seen affidavits with impacts/links outside AKL to the suspected/known abuses. One particular case continues to be deferred, with the defendant having a 20+ year history of various abuses, “unchecked”. Reasons have been spurious at best, and the prosecution seemingly looking to make it go away and/or stuff it up. NZ is a shit pile of this type of behaviour, which many have the misfortune to be much closer to than they are aware!
Thats all I’m going to say on it, unless there is further which I can link to via the MSM or the LF link, which was in my post Weka pointed out above..
[RL: That’s gives it a better context, I’ll rescind the ban. The original line directed at McFlock was however clumsy and offensive, and on face value was always going to get the wrong kind of attention from a moderator. ]
Reckon you’ll have some more time to appreciate that superior intellect and wisdom you imagine you possess Muzza, when the moderators catch your latest piece of offensive and gratuitous malice. Do think of us, wont you.
And the point is, its got little to nothing to do with intellect, thats the primary issue. Most people are well capable of understanding, if only they started appreciating/accepting that there is likely, very little opportunity left to slow the sinking ship down.
[RL: The “how are the local pedo rings going down there” crack is not acceptable. It’s in the same category of boring old jibes like “your meds need adjusting”; ie unimaginative and gratuitously offensive. ]
Telling Aucklanders which buildings are likely to collapse in a moderate earthquake could generate panic or blacklisting of those properties, says a panel that heard public submissions on a draft earthquake-prone policy.
“The likelihood that the information will be misconstrued is significant as shown in the case of information released to the media earlier this year,” said the panel.
Ms Webster, who chaired the panel, said yesterday it was a difficult call because it involved private property versus the public right to know.
Good to know who contols Auckland then, as if thats not clear enough!
Has there been anything further to this, other the 393 buildings which have been named?
What is with your intrusion into the bedrooms of consenting adults.
If Mckellen wants to marry his beau when what business is it of yours? There are greater threats to society than a couple of old queens wanting to exchange vows.
Wow, Freud would have a field day working out your fixation with “The Gays” and marriage K_P. Whatever gets you up in the morning I suppose. I was surprised after Keys hatred of “Gay” Red Shirts that he was quite cosy mincing down the “Gay” Red Carpet. Anything for Lord Peter Jackson eh.
Good heavens! The NZ Herald is reporting that the NZ Council is letting Tamihere reapply for party membership. It just doesn’t make sense for the Party heirachy to bend over backwards to ensure all natural justice for Tamihere compared with none for David Cunliffe. Maybe they should have spent the money for some decent legal opinions focussing Tamihere’s behaviour and statements against the test for party membership. Probably the Council was more influenced by Shearer’s support for his mate.
But its sure as heck not feeling like the Labour Party is the political party for me anymore.
I have had a gut full of this! A handful of Labour caucus members who do not want the Labour Party to be the Labour Party but do not want to go away either, and determinedly go on making room for their flunkies. Is there something we can do about it as members, apart from get very angry, and work out whether to vote Mana or Green? I can even imagine the Greens beating Labour in the next election, and Labour forming a coalition with National to keep the riff raff out. What lengths will these mediocrities go to in order to keep their places among “the people in the know.”
Is there something we can do about it as members, apart from get very angry, and work out whether to vote Mana or Green?
Hi Olwyn, I enjoy your comments, and its interesting to read the frustration in your words leaping off the screen of this one.
You could try going to police about the fact that there are criminal elements inside the LP, but it would not go very far, because, well the cops are bent too. Of course JT is wanted inside the LP by certain factions, he’s a natural fit given whats currently going on! The bloke is mates and more with Clint Rickards FFS, among others, and supported his application as a duty solicitor.
How is it that these types of people are controlling our world, and they continue to be elevated, or pulled back in, either way, they influence our lives? The answer should be self evident by now surely!
Hearing LP members being driven to consider voting elsewhere is exactly what is wanted, because voting for them, achieves the same thing.
I’m really not sure what the solution is, but I do know that options narrowing, quickly!
Why?, JT appeals to a tremendous amount of people out there, he’s a real asset to Labour.
Get him a seat to run in as soon as possible, the New Lynn seat’s coming free, stick him in that.
Yet when he ran for Mayor in west Auckland, long term mayor Bob Harvey still won – and at a time when many would have gone for someone different and younger, if only they had an alternative to vote for with more cred with the voters than JT.
Because his politics and personal beliefs are obviously “socially conservative”, or (to put it into the patois of the streets) “fucked in the head and a hundred years out of date”.
He should join National, or Density’s front organisation. He’ll get on okay with those equally atavistic folk. But even from a purely practical point of view, why would any party want as a member someone who publicly disenfranchises (even loathes) more than half of its other members and voters?
Left wing, even by pretension only, parties need to display integrity to their policies and principles. Giving jobs to shiny clowns just to get the small-minded vote is what tory parties do (not being as hobbled by principles or adherence to policy, of course).
Having just rejoined after many years in the wilderness I am gutted once again by the blatant disregard of the memberships wants and needs, I’m back off the greens again as an even more committed activist, what next for Labour, maybe Michael Lhaws will be invited to join as well!!
I guess the next thing we’ll hear is that King/Mallard have promised Tamihere the New Lynn seat. Olwyn – I just don’t know what we can do – I feel so powerless to stop Labour heading away from my values.
Strategically, I think I’ll hang on till February in case a member vote on the leadership is triggered. I think such a vote would pull everyone together and we could unite behind the leader whoever that was.
But the Council are a disgrace – they need to stop being so weak. I’d heard Grant Robertson has been stacking his people onto Council and LECs up and down the country – it seems to be coming true. If there is no member vote in the New Year, I’ll walk after that. I’ve had a gutsful too! And this Labour Party has moved too far away for me to embrace.
A swing to the right. A swing to the lowest common denominator. Victory for red-necks. If Robertson thinks that Tamahere will win votes in west Auckland he is a fool. We already have a good voting count. Westies remember that Tamahere walked from the Teust with $190k after tax the last time .
The labour leadership has lost the plot.
As a Westie (one who didn’t vote for Tamihere as mayor – ABT), I am pretty disgusted – well will be if he is selected as a candidate. He abused the Labour Party during the Conference – and indulged in some gleeful gay-baiting. I haven’t seen Cunliffe do anything like that.
When you consider how Cunliffe has been punished for doing so much for Labour, and how Tamihere is being rewarded for blatant destructiveness …. there is only one possible interpretation, deliberate provocation.
I’m thinking that the right-wing caucus faction is quite happy to burn off as much left-wing membership as possible before the February election.
I’m thinking that the right-wing caucus faction is quite happy to burn off as much left-wing membership as possible before the February election.
Well, they’re in for a shock then aren’t they. Everybody is hanging in there for the February election, and there’s even more left-wingers who have just joined the Party.
karol there are two systems of justice in play in the Labour Party at present. The justice meted out to those inside the King/Mallard leadership club, and that imposed on those on the outer. The real pity is that there is no effective check and balance against this by the Labour Party President et al of the Council. Shame on them all. And the Labour Party won’t be a sorted force to be rekoned with in an election until this double standard is weeded out. Unfortunately Shearer is now fully implicated – no hiding behind the King/Mallard apron on this. If you were waiting to see we’re Shearer would lead…..have you got the pattern yet?
Have been wondering why John Armstrong was praising Shearer so cloyingly today in the Herald. Wasn’t Robertson said to be the one Labour person to get on well with The Gallery? Is his relationship with them so good that there some hidden agenda or a ‘reached understanding between certain parties’ such that one David can be so hammered by the media for apparently doing nothing,whilst Shearer is praised to the heights for an average speech by autocue and now Armstrong penning this oddity http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10851136 Not to mention the strange return of JT.
So many things about the caucus since the Labour Conference are beginning to seem ‘not quite right’ or maybe ‘too right’ if you will excuse the pun. Is there a hidden Game (of Thrones) Plan, and why?
I think Grant Robertson’s relationship with the Gallery is actually just a referral from the right faction boss Annette King. King has been “feeding” and “grooming” John Armstrong, Vernon Small and Claire Trevett for a long time.
It is a very interesting exercise to look back on each of these Gallery journalists articles – you can see clear patterns in their reporting. I’ve always considered Small and Trevett to be lightweights but once upon a time I had some respect for John Armstrong. But even he doesn’t seem able to find an original thought in the past year.
Looks like Robertson has decided that he is the embodiment of all the true Labour ideals and so therefore everything he does to ensure his leadership of the party is justified. Omelettes and eggs and so on. He forgets that when you say that the means justifies the end, you forget that the means is the end.
if it is that hard to prize open the grip of those usual suspects in both the Labour caucus and the mainstream media, what is the point of a challenge in February 2014? Surely a loss would be turned into a win, a win turned into a loss.
yes I saw that they have “approved” JT *sigh*. anyway NSW “above normal Max temp and fire season
also,
but then “I’m only happy when it rains…pour your misery down on me…Garbage.
BBC-Assange “Swedes have their heads in the ground”
Senior U.S Republican source-the fiscal cliff regulation agreements (not) “are really going nowhere”
Last minute folks, roll up…roll up…
furthermore on CNN,” disappointing U.S and Eurozone economic figures”
RT-“The Electronic Intifada” hmmmm.
Endgame in the M.E.? Israel on the defensive; and we all know how a dog behaves when it’s cornered.
meanwhile, on SKY; “growing threat of U.S storms occuring; naturally occuring exceptional period of
Hurricanes (“and I’m gettin blown away…I am just a dreamer but you are just a dream…you could have been any thing to me) AND Climate Change, oh well, it’s not like there haven’t been signs!
ol’ Bri-“there goes His Hero…watch him as he burns”
The Breeders? “Cannonball”; is that a Deal Kim?
More Horror Road Crashes…say no more
Tamihere in. Now there is something to think about.
Arm was strong heralding the “power of the state to build houses” as scribed by the Parker Pen
(not a fan of “chippy” but then what would i know)
“Shot down in flames…aint it a shame…to be shot down in flames…yet we could always build a RONs
I’ve made my calls over the last hour and this seems to be correct. Grant Robertson also spoke strongly in favour of giving Tamihere another chance.
In addition to courting the Maori vote, the strategy appears to be to help Labour cast off any remaining image of being ‘bleeding heart’ left wing. Jones and Tamihere to be given wide latitude in this.
I can’t help thinking that this call from the leadership is misguided.
It’s an insult to women and gays for the LP leadership to even consider having Tamihere stand! Definitely misguided. No principles! Anything to get elected and keep their status in the LP.
Yes its part of a concerted strategy by the Leadership team and its puppeteers (King/Mallard) to take Labour to the right. Roger Douglas must be laughing out loud today.
And that silly, weak Moira Coatsworth says its about “the need to be a party in unity and move on together” (TV3 News tonight). When did Tamihere EVER contribute to unity in the Party?!!!!
If that sexist and animal abuser is in the Labour Party then I am no longer a Labour supporter. I will be voting Greens unless David Cunliffe gets in and shows a fraction of the common sense of the idiots in the party at present.
Well, I have been content to vote Green while waiting for Labour to become a credible left wing party again, i.e. promoting social justice for all sections of the community rather than pandering to the middle-class neoliberal media.
So, now, in order to try to attract a section of the community they haven’t supported well-enough fr a while, they want to jettison another section of the community – but not their allegiance to the media & neoliberal consensus. They are truly a confused bunch.
If Tamihere stands as a candidate in West Auckland, I’ll do something I’ve never done before – join a party (the Greens) and go out on the streets campaigning for them. That’s how angry the idea of a return of Tamihere makes me.
Why what’s wrong with Tamihere?
John will be a lifeline for the party when it has it leadership election in February.
As the labour party has got no one else.
well, just for a Rogue opinion, this “Tamihere” thing is not going to end well; might as well have pulled
the pin and placed said pin between teeth; Jesus Wept, but what would he know as Benghazi is suggesting? A big fat diabetic NO to JT is my opionion; this is going to end in tears and that is my last
word on the matter; very sad day, yet he is not a candidate yet God Help us 🙂
meanwhile, Christchurch does not appear well at all, not at all, no Siree Gerry.
meanwhile, a new level of “ruthlessness” in Syria and TPTB have shut the “net” down; suplise suplise.
meanwhile, great infrastructure support for East Timor from China, God Bless China and the CCP
(we look forward to the third-year plan implementation)
🙂
To select Tamahere and demote Cunliffe in the one month is a direct snub to the working class credentials of Labour.
To suggest Tamahere is there to encourage a racially and tolerant image for Labour is a joke. He appeals to pakeha rednecks who will never vote for a left Labour.
This is direct challenge to the ethnic Sector, Carmel Sepuloni, David Cunliffe and all the members who voted for a modern open democratic Labour Party.
Shearer and Robertson must think the Conference was a vote of confidence in their stunning performance of the past year
Shearer and Ribrrtson must think the Caucus 100% vote meant they had won control back from the members!
NO, NO. NO.
Shearer and Robertson are in for a wake-up call.
I am afraid you are quite correct Jazzabelle. My gut instinct to turn from Shearer after his unjust and distasteful actions last week is now justified. He showed his true colours then and now others are being revealed to be wearing his mark and it is not the mark or colour of the type of person I can support let alone unite with. Moira Coatsworth is whistling in the wind as far as I am concerned. I feel sure nothing good is going to come of this. If it is possible I will vote accordingly in February.
I’m not so sure they are in for a wake up call! King/Mallard have a very firm and vicious grip. And the Leadership team does whatever they suggest because they don’t actually have the skills to lead.
And why? Because King/Mallard do not qualify for a Parliamentary pension. They cannot afford to leave their Parliamentary incomes for a goodly while.
King/Mallard are poisonous and the Party hierachy needs to grow a spine and rise up and challenge them.
I don’t know about the hierarchy (I do – they don’t have a spine), but the party membership has always had a spine and it did indeed rise up. Fingers crossed for the coming months.
The way we’ve been trained to serve often renders us as little more than machines that do given tasks, and it cuts us off from what it is to truly give of ourselves both to our own beings and to others.
We need to see each other. I really believe that that is the only way to save the planet from whatever mass destructions we can forecast, be they political, economic, or environmental. We need to know each other, and not just the broad, dissociative stuff we put out there to appeal to what we think most people will like most of the time, but what lies beneath that.
Still mulling it over so I’m not going to give any personal insights.
Thanks DTB. I take it to mean we need to know ourselves, and to not be afraid of offending by being who we are, in order to truly communicate with and understand others.
So I don’t feel quite so bad about commenting in anger,re Tamihere and the confused principles of Labour tonight…. though that may just be self-serving.
True Price asks several questions about ubiquitous products, (e.g. food items, clothing and electronics, etc.):
1. Is this item a want or a need?
2. What are the effects of this item, both positive and negative, on you as a consumer, on other people, on animals, and on the environment?
3. What systems perpetuate this item?
4. What would be an alternative that does more good and less harm, and if no such alternatives exist, what systems would need to change to make alternatives commonplace?
All such good questions and likely that most couldn’t answer them but I found this paragraph most interesting:
Almost every time I do this activity at U.S. teachers’ conferences, some audience members feel flummoxed by the challenge of bringing such an activity into their curricula. Forced to teach to seemingly endless standardized tests, many cannot see how such a multidisciplinary, critical and creative thinking activity could fit into the requirements they must fulfill, even though the exploration of these items and the process of answering these questions can fit beautifully and powerfully into language arts, science, math, health and social studies courses. Exploring such questions can also become an elective or add greater educational meaning and purpose to courses in economics, geography, psychology, environmental science, ethics and more.
Because that is exactly where National Standards will take us. To a point where even the teachers won’t be able to comprehend the world around them.
Nice link. I”m trying to think of the last thing I bought and then asking the questions. Defining what is a need and what is a want is tricky. Needs that maintain current standard of living, or needs that ensure survival, or something in between?
There are hundreds of other links on Tamihere but I guess the Labour hierarchy don’t have Google.
The archive on his Radio Live rants will be keeping the Nats’ hit squad busy and happy – some really nasty stuff. The only possible defence would have been “it was a long time ago, he’s turned over a new leaf” – and yes, in theory anybody could .
Except Tamihere was attacking Labour only a few days ago (“headhunters gang” etc). He hasn’t changed, and it’s not even clear that the idiots in charge want him to.
Tamihere has money, staff, volunteers, position, networks, and major media access.
and that winning smile for the girls.
that adds up to the capacity to take Dr Sharples out pretty easy.
Either National or Labour would find him candidate material in those circumstances.
Perhaps like Jones he is more suited to National. So for that reason alone Labour choose to keep them.
Or perhaps rather Shearer needs someone to shore up his numbers once Beaumont replaces Jones after the Auditer-General’s report is out.
Also odd that Twyford is supporting Tamihere throughout. Is Twyford trying to take out Sepulina in Waitakere selection with Tamihere? Quite a darkness in operation there, a chilled dish of revenge served.
*Groan* Twyford is supporting Tamihere? If so, that increases the reasons for me getting active and becoming a Green Party member. Twyford is my MP. Sepuloni is still a more promising candidate for Waitakere than Tamihere, IMO. She came within a whisker last time. And since then all we’ve seen is Bennett’s vicious attacks on the least powerful.
Is Labour just becoming the Men’s Party?
And Tamihere is a big supporter of Charter Schools.
Why is it that no-one in government or in the Treasury will answer two straight forward questions?
1. Why is it acceptable for commercial banks to create money that did not previously exist, out of thin air, but not acceptable for the Bank of England to create that same money, not as a debt, but as a credit?
2. When debt it is what funds the economy, can they explain how you grow the economy whilst cutting debt?
Answer those questions and you are on the way to solving Britain’s financial problems.
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Minister of Finance Grant Robertson has clarified that the changes to the wage subsidy scheme announced yesterday mean that employers should be passing on the full subsidy to workers, except in the case where the person’s normal income is less than the level of the subsidy. “We still want employers ...
Medical face masks from the national reserve supply are now being distributed to District Health Boards, while at the same time local production is being ramped up. Yesterday more than 640,000 masks were sent to DHBS – that is an immediate two week supply, with more to follow in coming ...
The Government has made modifications to the wage subsidy scheme to ensure people don’t lose their jobs during the national lockdown. These changes will soften the impact of COVID-19 on workers, families and businesses, and position them to exit the lockdown and look to recovery, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. ...
Farmers whose herds were culled in response to the outbreak of Mycoplasma bovis will be able to minimise the tax treatment of their income in some circumstances. Revenue Minister Stuart Nash says Cabinet has agreed to change the law. It means farmers may be eligible to spread their income over ...
A $27 million dollar package, effective immediately, is being provided to social sector services and community groups to ensure they can continue to provide essential support to communities as we stay at home as a nation to stop the spread of COVID-19, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced. “At ...
“The guilty plea today will provide some relief to the many people whose lives were shattered by what happened on March 15,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “These guilty pleas and conviction bring accountability for what happened and also save the families who lost loved ones, those who were injured, ...
The Prime Minister is holding daily press conferences to update New Zealanders on the Government's response to COVID-19. Links to videos and transcripts of these updates below. These transcripts also include All of Government press conferences led by Director Ministry of Health's Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield. 25 March: Live update from the Prime ...
Frontline Police numbers have broken through the 10,000 mark for the first time in history as officers step forward to keep the community safe during the COVID19 lockdown. “Two Police graduations in Auckland and Wellington in the past week have been conducted in unprecedented circumstances,” Police Minister Stuart Nash said. ...
Urgent legislation has been passed to support the package of economic and social measures needed to recover from the impact of the coronavirus outbreak. “The COVID-19 Response (Taxation and Social Assistance Urgent Measures) Bill will cushion New Zealanders from the worst economic impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak,” said Revenue Minister ...
From tomorrow, Government support for farmers and growers affected by drought will be expanded and extended across the country, with access to Rural Assistance Payments (RAPS) available throughout the North Island, parts of the South Island and the Chatham Islands, Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni announced. “These challenging conditions have ...
Parliament has passed amendments to legislation that give the Secretary of Education stronger powers to act in the fight to limit the spread of COVID-19, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “They are part of a suite of changes passed under the COVID-19 Response (Urgent Management Measures) Legislation Bill,” Chris ...
Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar have joined forces with New Zealand and Singapore by committing to keep supply chains open and remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker today welcomed ...
Immediate freeze on rent increases Tenancies will not be terminated during the lock-down period, unless the parties agree, or in limited circumstances Tenants who had previously given notice can stay in their if they need to stay in the tenancy during the lock-down period Tenants will still be able to ...
As New Zealand unites to lock-down in the fight against COVID-19, the Finance Minister is urging all businesses and workers to stay connected over the next four weeks. “We understand the extreme pressure many businesses are under right now. I know most business owners think of their workers as family ...
A State of National Emergency has been declared across the country as the Government pulls out all the stops to curtail the spread of COVID-19. “Today we put in place our country’s second ever State of National Emergency as we fight a global pandemic, save New Zealanders’ lives and prevent ...
Mr Speaker I wish to make a Ministerial Statement under Standing Order 347 in relation to the recent declaration of a State of National Emergency. Having considered the advice of the Director Civil Defence Emergency Management, the Minister of Civil Defence declared a State of National Emergency for the whole of ...
People needing to travel on domestic flights, trains and Cook Strait ferries to get home before the country moves into level 4 lock-down tomorrow night will be able to continue using the passenger services until midnight on Friday, Transport Minister Phil Twyford said today. Domestic passenger services, particularly ferries, have ...
The Government, retail banks and the Reserve Bank are today announcing a major financial support package for home owners and businesses affected by the economic impacts of COVID-19. The package will include a six month principal and interest payment holiday for mortgage holders and SME customers whose incomes have been ...
Minister of Transport Phil Twyford has today announced details of the Government’s support package to keep key air freight moving and ensure New Zealanders retain access to essential goods during the four-week level 4 lockdown. “The Government is working with airlines and air freight operators to ensure New Zealand’s key ...
New Zealand moved up to COVID-19 Alert Level 3 – Restrict New Zealand to move up to COVID-19 Alert Level 4 – Eliminate, in 48 hours Two-staged approach to give people and businesses time to prepare Level 3, from tomorrow Non-essential businesses must close All events and gatherings must be ...
Good afternoon The Cabinet met this morning to discuss our next actions in the fight against COVID-19. Like the rest of the world, we are facing the potential for devastating impacts from this virus. But, through decisive action, and through working together, do we have a small window to get ...
The Government is announcing significant further support for the economy, workers and businesses as the country unites to prepare for Alert Level 4 in the fight against COVID-19. Cabinet today agreed to remove the cap on the Government’s wage subsidy scheme, which will inject a further $4 billion into the ...
The Government is backing the Reserve Bank’s latest action to support the economy by reducing longer-term interest rates, meaning lower costs for businesses and mortgage holders, and a lower currency to help our exporters. The Minister of Finance has signed a memorandum of understanding and a letter of indemnity with ...
The Government has asked the Commerce Commission to take account of the exceptional circumstances created by COVID-19 when monitoring business behaviour in coming weeks. “The purpose of my request to the Commerce Commission is to make sure businesses can work together in ways that will allow them to provide ...
The New Zealand Government has temporarily closed its High Commission in Bridgetown, Barbados and its Embassy in Yangon, Myanmar due to the COVID-19 pandemic, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “Due to the increasing scarcity of air links in and out of Bridgetown and Yangon, and the pressure COVID-19 is placing ...
Associate Health and Whānau Ora Minister Peeni Henare has today announced the Government’s plan to support Māori communities and businesses in the face of COVID-19. “Our Government’s $12.1 billion economic package will help many Māori whānau, workers and businesses, whether it’s through wage subsidies, income support and worker redeployment, or ...
The Government and the hospitality industry have worked together to produce guidelines to assist with managing and reducing transmission of COVID-19, Health Minister David Clark announced today. The guidelines developed between the Government, Hospitality New Zealand and SkyCity Entertainment Group, set out how the new restrictions on physical distancing and ...
Four stage Alert System for COVID-19 announced New Zealand moved up to COVID-19 Alert Level 2 – Reduce Contact New Zealanders over 70 and those with certain medical conditions told to stay at home as much as they can to reduce risk of contact with the virus Workplaces to implement ...
Kia ora koutou katoa I’m speaking directly to all New Zealanders today to give you as much certainty and clarity as we can as we fight Covid-19. Over the past few weeks, the world has changed. And it has changed very quickly. In February it would have seemed unimaginable to ...
New Zealand and Singapore have jointly committed to keep supply chains open and to remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker welcomed the commitment. “This is an important collective response, and ...
JOINT MINISTERIAL STATEMENT BY SINGAPORE AND NEW ZEALAND AFFIRMING COMMITMENT TO ENSURING SUPPLY CHAIN CONNECTIVITY AMIDST THE COVID-19 SITUATION The COVID-19 pandemic is a serious global crisis. As part of our collective response to combat COVID-19, Singapore and New Zealand are committed to maintaining open and connected supply chains. We ...
Travel restrictions, closing our border to almost all travelers came into force from 23:59 on Thursday 19 March 2020 (NZDT). All airlines were informed of these restrictions before they came into force. Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says “The transit of passengers between Australia and New Zealand has been agreed upon and ...
The Government has allocated $100 million to help redeploy workers affected by the economic impact of COVID-19, with the hard-hit region of Gisborne-Tairāwhiti to be the first helped, Economic Development Minister Phil Twyford, Forestry and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Employment Minister Willie Jackson announced today. Phil Twyford ...
The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is ramping up support for Tairāwhiti’s wood processing sector to bolster the region’s economy at a time of heightened uncertainty, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. Following earlier announcements today of a regional support package for Tairāwhiti, Minister Jones has also announced a ...
The Coalition Government has stepped in to protect Air New Zealand with a significant financial deal that protects essential routes and allows the company to keep operating. The Government and Air New Zealand have agreed a debt funding agreement through commercial 24-month loan facilities of up to $900 million*. The ...
The Government has taken further measures to protect New Zealanders from the COVID-19 virus, effectively stopping all people from boarding a plane to New Zealand from 11:59pm today, except for returning New Zealanders, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. New Zealanders’ partners, legal guardians or any dependent children travelling with ...
The Government has reinforced its commitment to protecting the health of New Zealanders from COVID-19 through the cancellation of indoor events with more than 100 people. “Protecting the health of New Zealanders is our number one priority, and that means we need to reduce the risks associated with large gatherings,” ...
Contrarian thinking can be provocative, interesting and amusing at the best of times – challenging our assumptions that life is running smoothly. But it can be downright dangerous, writes Peter Bale. Entire countries are trying contrarian approaches to the orthodox epidemiological theory on how to manage a virus that grows exponentially and ...
The most powerful woman in New Zealand sport, Kereyn Smith, has been working furiously through the Olympic meltdown to make sure Kiwi athletes are heard The small office in Kereyn Smith’s Auckland townhouse - until now unused and “somewhat chaotic” - has become New Zealand’s Olympic war room. It’s here in her isolation ...
Nurses are the first people you’ll meet if you think you have Covid-19. Here, one of our frontline workers describes the rapid changes both healthcare workers and the public are facing. As told to Josie Adams.I was working at an urgent care clinic in East Auckland when the first reports ...
Introducing a brand new series of charts, graphics and data-visualisations by Chris McDowall, covering the Covid-19 epidemic within New Zealand. This is the first edition – we’ll publish the latest set each day on The Spinoff.Information about confirmed and probable cases of Covid-19 in New Zealand is changing rapidly. This ...
Some countries are now using a serology test, which uses blood or serum samples to look for antibodies we produce in response to the virus. Siouxsie Wiles explains its strengths and weaknesses.Read Toby Morris’s new Side Eye comic, created with Siouxsie Wiles, here. And more of Siouxsie’s writing here. The Spinoff’s Covid-19 ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Omar Mubin, Senior Lecturer in human-centred computing & human-computer interaction, Western Sydney University The Australian government has launched an app offering up-to-date advice and information on the COVID-19 pandemic. The Coronavirus Australia app, available on the Apple App Store and Google Play, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Omar Mubin, Senior Lecturer in human-centred computing & human-computer interaction, Western Sydney University The Australian government has launched an app offering up-to-date advice and information on the COVID-19 pandemic. The Coronavirus Australia app, available on the Apple App Store and Google Play, ...
The Prime Minister has praised Australia's move to make some Kiwis eligible for its wage subsidy scheme, which Australia's PM says is "more generous" than New Zealand's one. ...
Russia Today (sometimes referred to as Kremlin TV) does not have a widespread reputation as a fair and balanced news source. But occasionally if they say it’s raining, you might want to check outside to see if you need an umbrella.So there is some interest in its reporting of ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Holly Thorpe, Professor in Sociology of Sport and Physical Culture, University of Waikato During New Zealand’s four-week lockdown, all sporting facilities, back-country walking trails and parks are closed to stop the spread of coronavirus and avoid injuries. But New Zealanders have high ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Steven Hamilton, Visiting Scholar, Tax and Transfer Policy Institute, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University The A$130 billion payment will be benefit six million of Australia’s 13 million employees through their employers. It will ensure each employee kept on in ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Martin, Visiting Fellow, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University The secret sauce in the government’s A$130 billion JobKeeper payment is that it will be retrospective, in the best possible way. It’ll not only go to employers who have suffered ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michaela Pascoe, Postdoctoral Research Fellow in Exercise and Mental Health, Victoria University Medicare-subsidised psychology and psychiatry sessions, as well as GP visits, can now take place via phone and video calls – if clinicians agree not to charge patients out-of-pocket costs for ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Lisa Sedger, Senior Lecturer, Head of the Viruses and Cytokine Biology group in the School of Life Science, University of Technology Sydney While many scientists are working on developing a coronavirus vaccine, others are busy testing antiviral drugs. Vaccines are generally only ...
Alex Casey delivers her last power rankings for The Bachelorette NZ, where Lily and Lesina make their final decisions. Click here for previous instalments. Well me homies, we have reached the end of our journey together. At times it was slow, like a food tech teacher dragging his brogues through the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The Morrison government will provide a flat $1,500 a fortnight JobKeeper payment per employee for businesses to retain or rehire nearly six million workers, in a massive $130 billion six-month wage subsidy scheme to limit ...
David Downs - who doesn't even drink coffee - explains his plan to ensure some favorite cafés are still around when we emerge from lockdown Are you already sick of instant coffee, and missing your morning brew? Well, while you may have to suffer barrista-withdrawal symptoms for few more weeks, moves ...
By RNZ News The Auckland girl’s secondary school Marist College has New Zealand’s biggest Covid-19 cluster with 47 confirmed and probable cases. It is the biggest cluster of infection being tracked by NZ health authorities. The board chairperson Stephen Dallow said the confirmed cases included teachers, students and adults ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By David Irving, Adjunct Professor, University of Technology Sydney Blood is like milk, not toilet paper. You can’t just buy a lot of it and save it for later – you need to have a regular, fresh supply for patients who need it. ...
Newsroom Pro’s Bernard Hickey and Kiwibank Chief Economist Jarrod Kerr zoom out to lunch to talk about the Reserve Bank’s latest move to help banks lend to corporates. The Reserve Bank announced on Monday it would lend to banks dealing with distressed corporate borrowers, opening a new weekly Open ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jacinta Carroll, Senior Research Fellow, Counter Terrorism and Social Cohesion, National Security College, Australian National University There are now nearly 300 cases of COVID-19 linked to passengers who disembarked from the Ruby Princess cruise ship without any health checks from authorities. Amid ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Emily Brayshaw, Lecturer, Fashion and Design History, Theory, and Thinking, University of Technology Sydney Once again, global crafting communities are stepping up to help in a crisis, sewing face masks desperately needed in American hospitals to help stop the spread of COVID-19. ...
Retailer Smiths City has reached an agreement with ASB Bank to delay a $1.5 million dollar repayment of a loan due tomorrow. It also said it is starting talks with potential investors to support the business. The company said Covid-19 has caused an unforeseen and unprecedented shock to the business, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Quentin Grafton, Director of the Centre for Water Economics, Environment and Policy, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University In 1997, a bestselling book by Jared Diamond purported to explain how the West “won” world dominance based on the good luck ...
Figures from around the world show that Covid-19, while vicious and contagious, does behave like other infections, rampaging quickly through a community, hospitalising a small percentage and causing death in an even smaller percentage. The World Health ...
Video of PM Ardern’s Post Cabinet Press Conference is available here: New Zealand Labour Party - #LIVE: Post-Cabinet Press Conference 2 March 2020 Today Cabinet was focused on the response to protect NZers from COVID-19. Ardern outlined ...
Analysis by Keith Rankin To get a correct picture, we need regional data – indeed sub-regional statistics – because the virus does not respect political boundaries. Unfortunately, it is very hard to get regional data from European countries. The Johns Hopkins data – most widely used by the media (and ...
An extract from Jacinda Ardern: A New Kind of Leader, the brand new biography of the prime minister by Madeleine Chapman, formerly of this parish.Out today, Madeleine’s biography of the prime minister is magnificent. We cracked up. We had a wee cry. We’ve never read a political biography like it. Tomorrow ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Misha Ketchell, Editor & Executive Director, The Conversation You might have seen recent mediareports in various outlets of a paper, commissioned by the federal government, reporting the coronavirus advice of a group of experts from Group Of Eight universities. Dated March ...
Analysis: On the face of it, New Zealand's epidemic curve is going exponential. But are case numbers really rising for the same reasons as overseas? If you've been following any news about Covid-19 over the past three months, you've heard of The Curve. It looks, variously, like a sky-high pillar ...
MediaRoom column: A decision to block publication of community newspapers under the State of Emergency could be changed tomorrow. Tim Murphy reports. A decision to stop community newspapers from circulating in the country's suburbs, towns and settlements appears to have been an example of officials scratching their regulatory itch. On Friday, ...
A Waikato berry grower has been ordered to pay over $76,000 for employment law breaches. Olde Berry Farm has been fined $50,000 and forced to pay over $16,000 in unpaid wages and holiday pay. Its managing director, Andrew Molly, has been made personally responsible fo an additional $10,000 in penalties. ...
The Government has set up a dedicated service for reporting fears of price gouging, as Jacinda Ardern flags the expansion of "essential services" Kiwis concerned about potential price gouging at supermarkets during the coronavirus lockdown can now report the issue directly to government officials, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has announced. Ardern ...
A new report by the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment into the ban on new petroleum exploration permits outside onshore Taranaki has been welcomed by the Petroleum Exploration and Production Association of New Zealand (PEPANZ). "This ...
The takeover offer for Abano Healthcare is off the table - a casualty of the Covid-19 pandemic. The company said the $150-million takeover scheme agreement with Adams NZ Bidco Ltd. was terminated, with no fees payable by either party, as a result as the material adverse change to the company's ...
The New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) contribution to the successful mission to train members of the Iraqi Security Forces to combat ISIS is at an end and the first troops from the final contingent have arrived home. Since December the NZDF has had 45 personnel ...
On Sunday it was reported there is a high demand for New Zealand Police's online form to report lockdown breaches. This news should act as a red flag, signalling the potentially corrosive effects on public trust within Aotearoa that may occur in these troubled times. Concerns have already been expressed ...
The Prime Minister is giving the latest updates on the government's fight against the impact of Covid-19 at her weekly post-Cabinet media conference. Watch live here. ...
Watch the replay of our fourth live Q&A session with Dr Ayesha Verrall, a senior lecturer at Otago University who specialises in infectious diseases. Ayesha Verrall is an infectious diseases physician and senior lecturer at Otago University's Department of Pathology and Molecular Medicine (Wellington). Dr Verrall has been monitoring the spread and impact ...
Recognising how much of the burden women are carrying in this crisis - and how much they always carry - may take us closer to a society in which caring work is seen and valued for the essential work it is, writes Jess Berentson-Shaw COVID-19 has thrown a window wide ...
You’ve lost your job and your income has reduced due to the Covid-19 crisis, so how do you hold onto your home? Mortgage adviser Cameron Marcroft talks to Bonnie Sumner.Tell us about the changes you’ve seen since the lockdown began. We’ve had many enquiries coming through from both existing ...
When officials – including police themselves – don’t seem clear on the rules around movement, it makes it harder for everyone to do the right thing, writes Andrew Geddis.Aotearoa New Zealand has committed to trying to eradicate the virus that causes Covid-19 from its shores. To do that, as a ...
The EMA is urging the Government to postpone the planned significant increase to the minimum wage on Wednesday, as employers grapple with keeping their doors open amid COVID-19. Chief Executive Brett O’Riley says that while it may be politically ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Wark, Conjoint Professor, School of Medicine and Public Health, University of Newcastle As the number of COVID-19 cases around the world continues to climb, hospitals are under increased pressure to provide emergency care for the most severely ill patients. What does ...
Philanthropy New Zealand will release a weekly update to share philanthropic and grantmaking activity and insight as the sector seeks to support communities in the wake of COVID-19. This update is a general public document, provided to Ministers, ...
By Elias Nanau in Port Moresby Indonesia has issued a stern warning over illegal border crossers from Papua New Guinea. This follows Indonesia stepping up its security measures at the border in response to the global Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic. The First Secretary to the governor for West Sepik, Adam ...
As two staff members test positive for Covid-19, police are grappling with ways to keep their workforce safe while still enforcing the rules of the lockdown, Marc Daalder reports Two police staff have tested positive for Covid-19, Police Commissioner Mike Bush said Monday, while nearly 400 others are now in self-isolation ...
The Covid-19 crisis in media has claimed New Zealand’s last surviving radio station solely dedicated to sport. Amid a wider crisis in media funding right now, the first outlet has been forced to close the doors – and it isn’t likely to return.Staff at Radio Sport have been told that the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Brendan Coates, Program Director, Household Finances, Grattan Institute New Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development estimates paint a grim picture of the direct economic costs of public health measures to contain the spread of COVID-19, and the need for more government support ...
Tips on how television can help educate your kids, for parents who have to keep working.It feels as if a great many parents are simply flourishing during this lockdown with fairy gardens, bird song and mason jars, daily bongo drum dancing and essays written by three-year-old prodigies about how satisfying ...
How is Covid-19 spreading within the country? Newsroom is collating information as it's available to paint a picture of what's happening. There were 76 new cases of Covid-19 in New Zealand, up from the previous day's 63 new cases. Details of how many tests have been completed are now being ...
Supermarkets and some publishers are favoured by the government’s imposition of severe restrictions on what we can do and from whom we can buy during the Covid-19 lock-down. But one consumer watchdog is challenging the legality of an edict by Commerce Minister Kris Faafoi which favours supermarkets while Act leader ...
Robyn Hunt writes on the challenges facing disabled people and what needs to be done to support them as we go into lockdown, and beyond.Disabled people at higher risk need more help. Many of the almost one quarter of New Zealanders who are disabled are doing it hard as the ...
An online focus is coming back to bite newspaper companies, the Otago Daily Times’ editor says. David Williams reports. Despite advertising falling off a cliff, and its community papers dormant, the group editor of the country’s third-biggest publisher says there haven’t been layoffs and it’s unlikely any of its newspapers ...
Cabinet ministers will patch into a video conference this afternoon to discuss the Covid-19 lockdown, including complaints about high prices at supermarkets. ...
Talks will be ongoing between local leaders and Government in an effort to have them deploy both personnel and other resources to Tairāwhiti to support regional measures to contain COVID-19. Mayor Rehette Stoltz, Gisborne District Council ...
The New Zealand Taxpayers' Union is joining calls for the Government to extend submission deadlines for Select Committees during the immediate fallout of the COVID-19 crisis. New Zealand Taxpayers' Union spokesman Louis Houlbrooke says, "Old political ...
FIRST Union welcomes the announcements made by supermarket chains Foodstuffs and Progressive Enterprises that workers will receive lockdown pay increases but is cautioning that the details of these promises matter and all essential workers should be earning ...
By Imelda V. Abano in Manila The novel coronavirus now sweeping the globe has left many countries struggling to cope with rising numbers of infections and journalists grappling with how to best cover this evolving public health crisis. In addition to questions about how governments, health care systems and ...
The government has fast-tracked up to $1 million to help Air New Zealand move urgent freight in and out of the country - with the first flight to Shanghai leaving tonight. ...
Join Leonie Hayden as she works through the first four weeks of Scotty Morrison’s Māori Made Easy.Kia ora e te whānau, welcome to MME with me! I know a lot of us have this little green book on our shelves. Maybe you bought it and never got round to opening ...
The Free Speech Coalition is preparing to launch an urgent judicial review of the Ministry of Culture and Heritage’s decision to deem non-daily newspapers and publications not an essential service for the purposes of the COVID-19 Level-4 nationwide shutdown. ...
Increasingly concerned home support workers are worried that without adequate personal protective equipment and mandatory protocols for risk assessments, they may end up spreading COVID-19 around the homes and communities they work in. The news that 21 ...
The kiwifruit industry is fighting for survival as it tries to pick and pack the season's crop while enforcing Covid-19 restrictions. The apple industry is also predicting problems with at least 10 percent of the crop not likely to be picked. The nationwide lockdown has come right in the middle ...
The Reserve Bank is ramping up support for businesses and banks by accepting corporate debt and other assets as security for loans to banks. The latest measure is designed to pump more money into the economy through the banking system. Assistant governor Christian Hawkesby said the aim is to encourage ...
The first days of national lockdown have truly brought out the best in our social media stars. Alex Casey counts down the classics. Yesterday I got served with the Instagram notification that normally only pops up around Christmas-time. “You’re all caught up!” it chirps, “you’ve seen every post from the last ...
In our new series The Lockdown Letters, some of New Zealand’s best writers tell us what they’ve been up to in the days of Covid-19 alert level four. Today, writer and doctor Glenn Colquhoun goes full epistolary, with a letter to Hone Tūwhare – and his Travelling Band of Constant Companions.Kia ...
By John Gerritsen of RNZ News The $5 billion foreign student industry is facing a massive downturn with as many as half of this year’s enrolments now in doubt. Immigration New Zealand figures show that of 76,203 valid study visas at 15 March, 60,348 were in New Zealand, and ...
As New Zealand looks toward an uncertain future in all areas of life, Auckland school principal Claire Amos sees an opportunity to change high school education for the better. The last week has been an interesting one for school leaders. Monday arrived, it was all on – schools were closing the ...
The Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern told Morning Report, she’s expecting the country to be restricted to visitors for some time after the lockdown period ends. ...
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by Phil Duncan For Marxists, a key concern about social trends is their context – not just their causes, but why they happen when they do. Events and phenomena have causes, but they also are time or period-specific. While much of the left have capitulated recently to postmodernism, most notably ...13 hours ago
Since the lockdown began, we've all suddenly been reminded who the actually essential workers in our society are: not the people at the top who pay themselves the big bucks and rort the perks, but the people at the bottom they screw over and squeeze: cleaners, warehouse staff, truck drivers ...14 hours ago
Kia ora! As I've watched nearly all my remaining work vanish over the past couple of days, it has occured to me that one good way to keep me away from arguing with fools on Twitter all the time (in the knowledge that all we're really doing is processing our ...15 hours ago
Aotearoa New Zealand has committed to trying to extirpate the virus that causes COVID-19 from its shores. To do that, as a society we’ve moved to “Level 4”. That means adapting to unprecedented restrictions on our personal freedoms, particularly to our rights to move freely and associate with friends and ...16 hours ago
. . Lock Down: Day 4 – A photo essay with observations . March 29: Usual wake up routine as RNZ snaps on my radio-clock. Jim Mora’s voice slowly enters my conciousness; there’s talk of a second wave of covid19 taking hold in South Korea; the week in Parliament – ...18 hours ago
Yesterday, New Zealand recorded its first Covid-19 related death on the West Coast. Unfortunately this is unlikely to be the only fatality, with the virus now being found in every region of the country.However despite the significant danger, people are still unfortunately breaching lockdown rules.There’s really only one main very ...18 hours ago
The kids did surprisingly well today – meltdown count was about 3, and mostly fairly short ones. (And a fourth while I was writing.) Game-wise I had a go at Fell Seal: Arbiter’s Mark. It’s a fairly standard RPG with turn-based combat and what they call a “mature storyline” (it ...1 day ago
by Don Franks Hi David, Nice hearing from you, I’m glad to hear you’re getting by okay in these grim times. You asked how’s it going for us back here in New Zealand. You would have heard that the whole country is locked down and with breaks for exercise and ...1 day ago
A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week, i.e., Sun, Mar 22, 2020 through Sat, Mar 28, 2020 Articles Linked to on Facebook Sun, Mar 22, 2020 In Just 10 Years, Warming Has Increased the Odds of Disasters by Chelsea Harvey, ...2 days ago
The CV-19 (COVID) pandemic has seen the imposition of a government ordered national quarantine and the promulgation of a series of measures designed to spread the burden of pain and soften the economic blow on the most strategically important and most vulnerable sectors of society. The national narrative is framed ...3 days ago
Fortune's Children: Under extraordinary pressure, the leader of the Government and the leader of the Opposition will each show us what they are made of. Have they been blessed with intelligence, grace, wit, poise, toughness, empathy and humour – and in what measure? More importantly, to what extent have they ...3 days ago
Society-wise, aside from the specific morbidity shall we say of the medically-oriented aspects of this COVID-19 crisis, what is unfolding before the world is in more than one way an instructive study of humanity and reactions to a high intensity, high stress environment in real time. Friends, we are at ...3 days ago
Right now low waged and insecure workers are feeling the economic brunt of the looming #Covid19 Recession. In response legal advocate Toby Cooper* and hospitality and worker’s rights advocate Chloe Ann-King, are putting together a series of legal blogs about your employment rights: In this legal blog we outline some ...3 days ago
Just before midnight on Wednesday March 25, Aotearoa New Zealand entered a countrywide alert level four lockdown. For at least the next four weeks, everyone who isn’t an essential worker is confined to their bubble. We are doing this to stop the explosive growth in people contracting and dying from ...4 days ago
Kia ora my name is Chloe Ann-King* and I am the founder of Raise the Bar, a campaign and non-profit that gives free legal aid, advocacy and tautoko to hospitality workers in Aotearoa. Right now all over our country hospo workers are being fired at will, having shifts cut or being ...6 days ago
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A National Government led New Zealand has voted with the majority of the world in Legitimising the Palestinian cause.
While the Labour Government of Australia abstained.
Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Bob Carr cited “intense pressure” on the Australian government from the US to actively vote against the resolution as the reason for their abstention.
No doubt the same sort of “intense pressure” would have come down on our government too. But instead of buckling and taking the weak and cowardly escape route from this pressure by abstaining. To their credit our government resisted this pressure and came down on the side of justice and decency.
There are questions raised by this anomaly.
How would a Labour Party in office react to such intense US pressure?
Would a Shearer led Labour government have buckled to US pressure as the Australian Labour Government have?
Why has the Labour Leader been silent on this issue?
Why when it has been carried in virtually every other media have there been no posts from The Standard authors on this historic UN vote?
Are the writers for The Standard and the Labour Party so sectarian that they won’t give credit to the government even when it is due?
Is this the reason for The Standard’s silence on this historic event?
If so then it shows why Labour is losing the people’s support. This sort of sectarian pettiness is just boring to most people.
Jenny, “The Standard” doesn’t decide to write or not to write on anything. The Standard is not part of the Labour Party. I have not party voted for Labour for a few elections. Each writer chooses what to write about when they have time. There are many pressing issues relevant to left wing NZ’ers.
Of course celebrate the historic decision. You also should refresh you knowledge of the site policies.
Plus all ts authors are vounteers. Jenny, why not write a post and ask for it be put up as a guest?
Well. Credit where credit is due.
All credit to who-ever in the NACT Government decided to do the right thing in this case.
Done
Let’s see if this or any other post on this vote appears on The Standard, or whether the sectarian cone of silence will persist.
Why claim it’s sectarian? Seems to me it’s just a bit boring actually. Folks are waiting to see what it means. What actually happens.
Though I realise that you think posting overwrought propaganda is the most important thing in the world.
how’s Syria going, anyhoo?
Who would know? As the New Zealand website that has anything to say on the issue, despite two requests for inclusion from myself, has still not been added to The Standard blog roll.
But if you are interested I will provide you some of the latest links.
http://kiaoragaza.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/sunni-leaders-gaining-clout-in-mideast-impacting-gaza/
http://kiaoragaza.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/us-weighs-supplying-weapons-to-syria-rebels-and-turkey/
http://kiaoragaza.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/syrian-rebels-turn-looted-missiles-on-assads-aircraft/
Fuck off, Jenny. I said it on Twitter when I first saw your comment and I’ll say it again: I, for one, cannot be bothered with the pointless circular flamewar which any post on Israel/Palestine is likely to incite.
Implying that The Standard’s authors are involved in a conspiracy to not post about a certain issue is fucking ludicrous and probably likely to invoke moderator wrath. Didn’t you get a clue on that subject after the Cunliffe leadership beat-up?
You must be fucking new around here.
lol
Your support for self censorship around the Palestinian cause. Doesn’t apply to the use of pointless profanity and personal abuse.
I find your support for both of these things offensive.
[popcorn + hopes to learn new words]
Wait a minute, I’ve got a reply for you somewhere … oh, here it is.
(Sorry, McFlock, but Jenny ain’t deserving shit else in terms of a response from me.)
well, it is the end of a weekday 🙂
Jenny Jenny Jenny… I now this might come as a surprise to you but the english language includes lots of swear words, swear words that can be used on most blogs within reason to support an argument. As you’re clearly not new to The Standard, you should know that QoT’s clever use of various obscenities is well within the bounds of the moderation policy.
In fact the appropriate use of swear words like QoT’s ‘fuck off’ above is most appropriate and lends itself to the context of the debate by succinctly expressing distaste with your assertions. Fuck is also on the very light side of profanity and these days would only offend those who cannot debate the topic or prudes. Unfortunately your response means I cannot rule you out of fitting comfortably into both these clichés.
I was wondering why the government didn’t cave in to U.S. pressure too. Much as I’m grateful for it doing the right thing the cynic in me sees a trade with the Middle East position here, and a negotiating position with the U.S. – just letting them know that our interests lie in trade. Roll on the TPP.
China.
Yes, China as well. A whole lot of trade bang for the vote buck.
Yes, while I was pleased to see Palestine get this bit of recognition (though not full member status), my mind yesterday was on some other pressing concerns for Kiwis – like the TPP and Bennett’s nasty little welfare reform bill that started getting submissions.
Agreed, CV. I almost commented that as well, but haven’t seen any MSM comment on how China voted.
How countries voted here.
Jenny. I signed an on-line petition demanding John Key sign for the UN inclusion of Palestine. The petition was circulated because there was doubt that Key would sign. Perhaps that petition persuaded Key, who knows. By the way, I am a Labour/Green supporter but I don’t see why I should give credit to National for doing a good thing, one of the very few good things they have done, it’s the least they could have done.
Propagandist Jeffrey Goldberg has an idea.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-26/how-palestinians-can-finally-achieve-independence.html
Personally I dont find the idea of ghettoing the Palestinians in their own little corrall is acceptable.
A single fedrative state for both Isreali Jews and Palestinian Arabs is the way to go.
Rimutaka Electorate under threat from a weak Labour MP.
SInce Chris Hipkins was handed Paul Swain’s seat in 2008 it has been downhill for Labour and up, up and up for National in the Rimutaka Electorate (Upper Hutt).
Chris Hipkins is letting the National candidate, Jonathan Fletcher, eat his lunch and has no response. Seemingly Chris only likes fighting Labour people at Conferences and on TV. Chris is sitting in his comfort zone, the Parliamentary offices and Bellamy’s, where he previously played at being a staffer for Mallard, while Fletcher is hitting the streets of Upper Hutt.
Have a look at these figures:
The Labour party vote went from 48% in 2005 to 33% in 2011, while National went from 34% to 45% at the same time. The same poor performance also applies to the Electorate vote. Swain’s 55% has become Hipkin’s 51%, while Fletcher took the 2005 30% to 42% in 2011.
Hipkin’s intemperate behaviour at Conference and on TV has lost him much of the little personal local support he had. He never had much experience outside of the isolated space that is the Labour offices.
Maybe Rimutaka needs a more temperate and personable candidate in 2014.
Yes, well I’m a dyed in the wool, never voted for anything else other than Labour votor — and I sure as hell won’t be giving that little creep my vote in the next election!
Chris Hipkins, the ‘Accidental’ Labour MP – sounds like National has another very very good friend in the Labour caucus ?
Hipkins should be given a $40,000 bonus.
Hipkins has fallen on his face as a whip, in his rush to get a portfolio. Whips who do not have the respect of the majority of Caucus become ineffectual.
Flunking in the electorate AND in his first adult role is a poor show. Screaming at members at Conference was damaging. Calling Cunliffe a liar on TV was obnoxious.
Was he trying to emulate Mallard? Is there something wrong with him?
Labour Party membership numbers in Rimutaka are not as healthy as they once were.
Not that they have ever been that strong, but according to locals under Hipkins the trend has been less promising. It may mark the over-emphasis he has on internal caucus activities and an under-emphasis on building up the party presence in his own electorate.
Well, I’m a member – what’s the process for getting him pushed from within and getting someone else?
Not even sure what the forum is for gauging local members’ support for dumping him
I’m not sure that I would condone a hostile de-selection of a sitting MP as it is a big step. To be serious, you would want to source a copy of the party’s constitution and become very familiar with all the relevant sections.
I’m assuming that there is some sort of democratic process whereby electorate candidates are selected.
As I say, I don’t know how this works, but surely if the members want a different representative it is their right to vote for a new one.
As for him being a sitting MP, It may well be that after the next election he will be that only if his list position is high enough.
As is said above, he is bleeding support amongst the general population of the electorate. The Nats spent a relatively large amount of resources in the electorate prior to the last election, I think because they smelt blood on the water.
This all adds up to a very tenuous position in what used to be a pretty red seat, both for party vote and electorate.
Adding the fact that he is, in my opinion, not a suitable candidate for me, as a consistent Labour voter to vote for leads me to believe that, should the local members be in the same mindset, he should be removed and replaced.
Actually, fuck it, I just read down comments regarding Tamihere.
If I can make some small contribution to taking out these bastards one at a time – I’m in.
carry on please
There is a story going around the traps. In the house. Hipkins stands on the half million Ingram report on field. Even then he still comes across as school kid.
“It’s a sad indictment on society that this wee girl, there’s nowhere that she can go to be safe and so we leave her with a mother who is refusing a drug test even after she’s killed the little girl’s elder sister. It makes me feel ill.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10851182
That quote appears to be a complete misrepresentation of the situation. Not surprising though, it’s from the sensible sentencing people. From what I can tell the child is being left with the mother, because to remove her at this stage would be incredibly damaging to the child. The judge made it clear that if that weren’t the case, the woman would go to jail.
Sensible sentencing would be to give the woman prescribed drugs, so she stops having to spend so much money on meth. Give her the support to stabilise her life. Those things will help the child.
Who Made Who HS?
Lyndon Hood’s latest, This Movie Sucks: NZ politics is a middle-earth script, and Hood makes a pitch to be a new writer for it.
No wonder Key is behind NZ doing some Dr Who eps! It’s a rellie of his!
Peter Sinclair interviews Dr. Kerry Emanuel of MIT and Dr. Jason Box of the Byrd Polar Center: Sandy and the Age of Superstorms.
Meanwhile…..the idiots persist…..
it sure is one “world of ruptured communion” joe, wonder how long the great unravelling will take…
http://www.amazon.com/Living-Word-Resisting-World-Paternoster/dp/1842270532
yet, round and round we go, where it stops, no body knows…
-the VelociRapture (just fooling a round) Rock on The Standard. Live and Thinking Back at ya!
(we’ll be here 24/7 bringing you the best of what the Left has to offer, spinning those Platters 360 with
no interuptions)
So Joe, where do you see it all heading then, if you had to voice more than just some links, and actually put up a projection of how you saw things playing out, say over the nexy 10-30 years?
In a nutshell muzza, human activities appear to be influencing the planets heat sink, the oceans, and warmer water will contribute more moisture to the equatorial atmosphere so larger systems of longer duration pushing further north/south will be generated causing a rising number of severe weather events and dramatic shifts in rainfall distribution that will almost certainly result in agricultural/oceanic resource catastrophes which, when coupled with other resource shortages, will create conflict.
Anyone else having problems with everything taking forever to load on this site? (But not other sites)
A couple of times this morning I got stalls, and had to press reload, but not too bad.
Ah..
Thanks for the tip. I didn’t know “reload” could be used in this way.
Students may give up: survey
Could put a bit of a crimp in Joyce’s demand for more engineering students.
That particular issue was raised by Green co-leader Metiria Turei today on Q+A… Both Judith Collins and Peter Dunne scoffed at her. Meanwhile they spread their propaganda on thickly about needing to increase innovation through education, but as I see it their policy changes are at complete odds with ensuring New Zealand has enough trained and skilled graduates to meet demand.
A potential 40% decline in graduations shouldn’t be simply dismissed by saying the research is incorrect. I mean how many times can National say the statistics showing their utter failure as a government are wrong and get away with it?
Fancy that! John Armstrong is praising Labour for getting its act together. And under Mr Shearer’s leadership too:
Bold policy is a return to the old ways, and a worry for National.
Housing, a big part of Shearer’s keynote conference speech, is Labour’s bold policy focus as it promises to build 100,000 affordable homes in 10 years.
Housing, a big part of Shearer’s keynote conference speech, is Labour’s bold policy focus as it promises to build 100,000 affordable homes in 10 years. Photo / Mark Mitchell
For the first time in a very long time, Labour has come up with something radical on the policy front which may grab the public’s attention, if not imagination – and which National cannot really get away with copying.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10851136
Surely one has to wonder why Ian mac, before getting too excited?
Casinos & Brothels = AKL CBD
Way to make the city “world class” I guess!
Gambling markets and brothels? Sounds like a haven for Wall St bankers.
Yeah it seems to be at odds with the “worlds most liveable city” aspiration..
Which of course is total BS, and is set to get worse, it will not get better.
Corruption has already ensured that the outcomes are “priced in”
Well John Key did say some time ago he wanted to make NZ some kind of international financial hub.
NZ has been a financial hub for the globally corrupted since 1961 when we were handed over to the IMF/WB and thus those who sit behind those entities!
Most everything that has become wrong with/in NZ, stems from that! We handed over the gold reserves and most likely signed away rights to resources under the “conditions” of the loans received at the time, which would account for the way we the the DI.MI.SI attitude going!
Seeing the handover of our dairy industry now in full flight, farm debt a huge problem, having already lost control of food production by and large, along with the disputed water rights and energy generation, will complete the removal on NZ to ever be able to self sustain, we are at the mercy of foreign controlled entities, and we have not/will not be shown mercy, just look at what is going on to understand.
Personal Debt, City Debt, Farm Debt, Student Debt, National Debt!
New Lows In Broadcasting & Has National Started A Smear Campaign Against Winston Peters/ NZ First?
I saw what I thought was a disgusting news item on TV 3 the other night. At the centre of the headline is NZ First MP Brendan Horan. The story first surfaced on Sunday in print & tv, in all intent & purpose it to appeared to be a family dispute over a late mothers estate not uncommon when $$ involved. Hearing Winston Peters explain a family member had approached him some months ago with allegations against Horan, Peters said “show me some proof of any wrong doing” according to Peters ‘that never happened.’ Then this character goes to the media with a copy of a amendment document to their late Mothers Will, for all in sundry to see. An extremely vexatious & bizarre thing to do to a family member with a such a public profile. It seemed ‘suspect’ to hear she was terminally ill when the amendment was made. Having sadly known people in that state, drugs provides relief from pain, at the price of being mentally muddled as a result. So to me keeping an open mind, an element of duress has to be considered.
Back to the TV 3 news item that was bad taste & what aroused my suspicions of a politically motivated attack. What I found offensive was the filming at the Horan’s families late mothers grave site. In my view this was a bridge too far & breached decency from the broadcaster. Totally unacceptable & disrespectful to a family still morning the death ( died August ) of a loved one.
Secondly the reporter Brooke Sabin appeared to
the group I was watching the item with to show a sycophantic pleasure in covering this story. One of our group said “I wonder if he is related to National, Northland PM Mike Sabin?”
Bingo! It just happens to be the reporter Brook Sabin is Mike Sabin’s son!
Winston Peters & Mike Sabin have a history of bad blood. Without appearing to be a conspiracy theorist is it a coincidence his son took up this story? and is it the start of a politically motived attack to knock Peters out again? Have Crosby Texter had a part to play?
Your Opinions would be great 🙂
NZ First has been a threat to the polictical establishment, and this story surfacing is no surprise. Of course its a smear campaign.
Skinny. I had a similar reaction to to about the hounding of Brendan Horan by that twerp on TV3. Seems that those worms like Garner, Gower etc enjoy hounding politicians from all parties EXCEPT National and Act. Biased?
Marsman yes it wouldn’t surprise me if Nat daddy got straight on the blower to his son Brook, had him chase for the story & inflict as much damage as he could milk. NZ First have got a few runs on the board lately against Key & Co. I can recall Horan championing something against the Nats in the House & in the media a few months back, so any opportunity to smear him sounds about right.
Skinny
Did I not hear/read that Horan’s mother made a codicil a few mnonths before she died, at that same time two Doctor’s signed affidavits that she was fully “complis mentis” to make such a codicil so that nobody could say she was not right in her dottage.
Fox ‘someone’ has obviously put her up to do that. Did that someone call a family meeting to raise their concerns as you would? Or did they choose not too? It appears the later to me which is harsh on a lady dying. Another negative against that person.
Peters has done the right thing in standing Horan down. While a forensic anaylsis of Horan’s mother’s bank account is being done the media will feast on the statements of those involved. If Horan is defamed he can take this further and Peters comes out clean and he can then say it was a media beat up. If Horan has made false statements Peter’s will probably dump him if Horan does not resign. Peters has principles compared to Key.
Horan’s mother is being exploited by the media and family members appear to be in for the cash grab.
I want to know why the family did not appoint a lawyer to arrange the mother’s will when she was alive?
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[ deep sigh ] A complete rinse and repeat from the climate change denialists, complete with reverential reference to the “Hockey Stick Illusion”. What is it with these people – do they think that if they repeat their lies often enough the science will disappear? In this instance, though, they are ignoring the science and attempting an “Unsworth” – attack the messenger. I beginning to wonder if perhaps the planet needs a climate catastrophe to bestir the somnamulent.
Actually, that’s exactly what they think. Or at least if they repeat the lies often enough, the science will be disguised by the impression that there is still fair-minded debate about the basics. So therefore the science that is reported is “balanced” by the other side of the “debate”. So the reality of the situation is disguised from as many people for as long as possible.
Don’t fear BliP, when the time is right you will be able to jump onto the options offered, and say you contributed to “saving the planet”
You may not like the options put forward but you won’t actually get a choice in the metter either, and they won’t be what you hope, or would want!
But none the less, it will be for the planet, so it will just teach those bottom dwellers whose in charge!
Hey McFlock, hows the local pedo rings going down your way?
Wow, that personality is more of a deranged prick than most of your others, muzz.
Going from LP’s random selective bans for “pointless abuse”, that should be getting you a week McFlock!
The week I got was helpful to appreciate that people just can’t/won’t see what is going on around them, perhaps its all just too much, perhaps they don’t have the faculties, most likely a combo of these, and more…
If my post seem more blunt at times, its because my patience for whats happening to NZ is running way out, and for those who won’t wrap their fat heads around the why, ran out long ago, so blunt it will be, along the way!
So why were you asking about pedo rings?
Because they’re a huge part of the problem, up and down the country.
[RL: I have to assume that this is an unfunny and nasty form of pointless abuse. Two week ban.]
Paedophilia rings are a huge part of the climate-change denier problem in NZ?
doxplox.
RL – No it was a serious question, as I was going to give a first hand account of what I have just seen happen in the AKL district courts but thought better of it, good call!
Frankly its getting too easy to be banned, and the reasons I am getting banned are not remotely evenly applied elsewhere, which indicates someone(s) have a got a beef.
As I said to LP its his sandpit, you guys police it, do what you want.
Just apply some consistancy, it looks like bias otherwise!
[RL: If you were trying to make a serious point you went about it very maladroitly. To the point where it just looked like nasty, unimaginative abuse to me and everyone else. I’ll give you one shot at convincing me there was more to this than what it looked like; otherwise the two weeks stands.
Moderation is not a machine; it’s a loose collective of people trying to read many hundreds of comments a day over a number of active threads. We’ll never be objective or consistent, and I’ve yet to see anyone we’ve ever moderated think we were being’fair’ at the time.]
I didn’t understand muzza’s comment to McFlock (it was completely context-less and then later not explained). But muzza did comment a couple of weeks ago, seriously, about child abuse rings, so I assumed the comment today was from something they have been thinking about.
It’s not my call, but I saw the comment as social ineptness or disconnect rather than tr*lling.
Muzza, a proper explanation to McFlock when asked for might have helped.
[RL: To make it clear, I agree with weka. I’ll rescind the ban if you have a proper explanation.]
Hi Weka, there a a small number on these boards who have the nous to try take in wider context than any singular days posts, so good on you for that.
@ RL – Short version – For most of this year ive seen affidavits with impacts/links outside AKL to the suspected/known abuses. One particular case continues to be deferred, with the defendant having a 20+ year history of various abuses, “unchecked”. Reasons have been spurious at best, and the prosecution seemingly looking to make it go away and/or stuff it up. NZ is a shit pile of this type of behaviour, which many have the misfortune to be much closer to than they are aware!
Thats all I’m going to say on it, unless there is further which I can link to via the MSM or the LF link, which was in my post Weka pointed out above..
[RL: That’s gives it a better context, I’ll rescind the ban. The original line directed at McFlock was however clumsy and offensive, and on face value was always going to get the wrong kind of attention from a moderator. ]
Reckon you’ll have some more time to appreciate that superior intellect and wisdom you imagine you possess Muzza, when the moderators catch your latest piece of offensive and gratuitous malice. Do think of us, wont you.
What are you on about JS?
And the point is, its got little to nothing to do with intellect, thats the primary issue. Most people are well capable of understanding, if only they started appreciating/accepting that there is likely, very little opportunity left to slow the sinking ship down.
[RL: The “how are the local pedo rings going down there” crack is not acceptable. It’s in the same category of boring old jibes like “your meds need adjusting”; ie unimaginative and gratuitously offensive. ]
are you really that oblivious?
This must have been on the boards previously, but I just came across it….
Auckland Council asked to keep quake-risk buildings secret
Good to know who contols Auckland then, as if thats not clear enough!
Has there been anything further to this, other the 393 buildings which have been named?
Great, more pro gay marriage propaganda, yet again some “star” or “celebrity”.
This time its Gandalf wanting to get married in Middle Earth.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10851222
Granted, the fantasy fiction theme is very appropriate for the gay ‘marriage’ cause.
Hate to tell you this, but he’s not really Gandalf.
If gays want to get married then good on them
What is with your intrusion into the bedrooms of consenting adults.
If Mckellen wants to marry his beau when what business is it of yours? There are greater threats to society than a couple of old queens wanting to exchange vows.
So you think one of the world’s greatest actors isn’t really a celebrity because he’s gay. Interesting.
If gay people want to get married, what business is it of yours to say they cant.
Wow, Freud would have a field day working out your fixation with “The Gays” and marriage K_P. Whatever gets you up in the morning I suppose. I was surprised after Keys hatred of “Gay” Red Shirts that he was quite cosy mincing down the “Gay” Red Carpet. Anything for Lord Peter Jackson eh.
MCKellan is a very, very talented man, and after checking out the MSM papers, it is always
uplifting to read The Standard.
-Shelley
Good heavens! The NZ Herald is reporting that the NZ Council is letting Tamihere reapply for party membership. It just doesn’t make sense for the Party heirachy to bend over backwards to ensure all natural justice for Tamihere compared with none for David Cunliffe. Maybe they should have spent the money for some decent legal opinions focussing Tamihere’s behaviour and statements against the test for party membership. Probably the Council was more influenced by Shearer’s support for his mate.
But its sure as heck not feeling like the Labour Party is the political party for me anymore.
/facepalm
The world is either being run by some very clever people who are taking the piss; or imbeciles who mean it.
I’m assuming Mr ‘Front Bum’ will get rushed into an electorate seat to bolster David Shearer’s numbers.
Rushed to the top of the list, more like.
I have had a gut full of this! A handful of Labour caucus members who do not want the Labour Party to be the Labour Party but do not want to go away either, and determinedly go on making room for their flunkies. Is there something we can do about it as members, apart from get very angry, and work out whether to vote Mana or Green? I can even imagine the Greens beating Labour in the next election, and Labour forming a coalition with National to keep the riff raff out. What lengths will these mediocrities go to in order to keep their places among “the people in the know.”
Hi Olwyn, I enjoy your comments, and its interesting to read the frustration in your words leaping off the screen of this one.
You could try going to police about the fact that there are criminal elements inside the LP, but it would not go very far, because, well the cops are bent too. Of course JT is wanted inside the LP by certain factions, he’s a natural fit given whats currently going on! The bloke is mates and more with Clint Rickards FFS, among others, and supported his application as a duty solicitor.
How is it that these types of people are controlling our world, and they continue to be elevated, or pulled back in, either way, they influence our lives? The answer should be self evident by now surely!
Hearing LP members being driven to consider voting elsewhere is exactly what is wanted, because voting for them, achieves the same thing.
I’m really not sure what the solution is, but I do know that options narrowing, quickly!
Labour going into coalition with National, wow, what a great moment in NZ history that would be.
We can only dream.
Benghazi@4.23pm my son said the same thing to me today too. He’s only voted twice, the third time he will apparently party vote Green.
I’d vote for Mr ‘Front Bum”
I like the cut of his jib.
Exactly why his application should have been turned down.
Why?, JT appeals to a tremendous amount of people out there, he’s a real asset to Labour.
Get him a seat to run in as soon as possible, the New Lynn seat’s coming free, stick him in that.
Yet when he ran for Mayor in west Auckland, long term mayor Bob Harvey still won – and at a time when many would have gone for someone different and younger, if only they had an alternative to vote for with more cred with the voters than JT.
Because his politics and personal beliefs are obviously “socially conservative”, or (to put it into the patois of the streets) “fucked in the head and a hundred years out of date”.
He should join National, or Density’s front organisation. He’ll get on okay with those equally atavistic folk. But even from a purely practical point of view, why would any party want as a member someone who publicly disenfranchises (even loathes) more than half of its other members and voters?
Left wing, even by pretension only, parties need to display integrity to their policies and principles. Giving jobs to shiny clowns just to get the small-minded vote is what tory parties do (not being as hobbled by principles or adherence to policy, of course).
Having just rejoined after many years in the wilderness I am gutted once again by the blatant disregard of the memberships wants and needs, I’m back off the greens again as an even more committed activist, what next for Labour, maybe Michael Lhaws will be invited to join as well!!
I guess the next thing we’ll hear is that King/Mallard have promised Tamihere the New Lynn seat. Olwyn – I just don’t know what we can do – I feel so powerless to stop Labour heading away from my values.
Strategically, I think I’ll hang on till February in case a member vote on the leadership is triggered. I think such a vote would pull everyone together and we could unite behind the leader whoever that was.
But the Council are a disgrace – they need to stop being so weak. I’d heard Grant Robertson has been stacking his people onto Council and LECs up and down the country – it seems to be coming true. If there is no member vote in the New Year, I’ll walk after that. I’ve had a gutsful too! And this Labour Party has moved too far away for me to embrace.
A swing to the right. A swing to the lowest common denominator. Victory for red-necks. If Robertson thinks that Tamahere will win votes in west Auckland he is a fool. We already have a good voting count. Westies remember that Tamahere walked from the Teust with $190k after tax the last time .
The labour leadership has lost the plot.
As a Westie (one who didn’t vote for Tamihere as mayor – ABT), I am pretty disgusted – well will be if he is selected as a candidate. He abused the Labour Party during the Conference – and indulged in some gleeful gay-baiting. I haven’t seen Cunliffe do anything like that.
Yes, that has to be the point.
When you consider how Cunliffe has been punished for doing so much for Labour, and how Tamihere is being rewarded for blatant destructiveness …. there is only one possible interpretation, deliberate provocation.
I’m thinking that the right-wing caucus faction is quite happy to burn off as much left-wing membership as possible before the February election.
According to Scott Hamilton, it is more a clique than a faction:
“Where a faction organises in the open, and tries to win a majority of a party to its views, a clique operates secretly and undemocratically.”
http://www.readingthemaps.blogspot.co.nz/2012/11/labour-and-f-word.html
These people know that they cannot win on argument, so they resort to bullying and manipulation.
Well, they’re in for a shock then aren’t they. Everybody is hanging in there for the February election, and there’s even more left-wingers who have just joined the Party.
karol there are two systems of justice in play in the Labour Party at present. The justice meted out to those inside the King/Mallard leadership club, and that imposed on those on the outer. The real pity is that there is no effective check and balance against this by the Labour Party President et al of the Council. Shame on them all. And the Labour Party won’t be a sorted force to be rekoned with in an election until this double standard is weeded out. Unfortunately Shearer is now fully implicated – no hiding behind the King/Mallard apron on this. If you were waiting to see we’re Shearer would lead…..have you got the pattern yet?
+1 karol and jazzabelle and Benghazi @17.
Have been wondering why John Armstrong was praising Shearer so cloyingly today in the Herald. Wasn’t Robertson said to be the one Labour person to get on well with The Gallery? Is his relationship with them so good that there some hidden agenda or a ‘reached understanding between certain parties’ such that one David can be so hammered by the media for apparently doing nothing,whilst Shearer is praised to the heights for an average speech by autocue and now Armstrong penning this oddity http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10851136 Not to mention the strange return of JT.
So many things about the caucus since the Labour Conference are beginning to seem ‘not quite right’ or maybe ‘too right’ if you will excuse the pun. Is there a hidden Game (of Thrones) Plan, and why?
I think Grant Robertson’s relationship with the Gallery is actually just a referral from the right faction boss Annette King. King has been “feeding” and “grooming” John Armstrong, Vernon Small and Claire Trevett for a long time.
It is a very interesting exercise to look back on each of these Gallery journalists articles – you can see clear patterns in their reporting. I’ve always considered Small and Trevett to be lightweights but once upon a time I had some respect for John Armstrong. But even he doesn’t seem able to find an original thought in the past year.
Looks like Robertson has decided that he is the embodiment of all the true Labour ideals and so therefore everything he does to ensure his leadership of the party is justified. Omelettes and eggs and so on. He forgets that when you say that the means justifies the end, you forget that the means is the end.
if it is that hard to prize open the grip of those usual suspects in both the Labour caucus and the mainstream media, what is the point of a challenge in February 2014? Surely a loss would be turned into a win, a win turned into a loss.
yes I saw that they have “approved” JT *sigh*. anyway NSW “above normal Max temp and fire season
also,
but then “I’m only happy when it rains…pour your misery down on me…Garbage.
BBC-Assange “Swedes have their heads in the ground”
Senior U.S Republican source-the fiscal cliff regulation agreements (not) “are really going nowhere”
Last minute folks, roll up…roll up…
furthermore on CNN,” disappointing U.S and Eurozone economic figures”
RT-“The Electronic Intifada” hmmmm.
Endgame in the M.E.? Israel on the defensive; and we all know how a dog behaves when it’s cornered.
meanwhile, on SKY; “growing threat of U.S storms occuring; naturally occuring exceptional period of
Hurricanes (“and I’m gettin blown away…I am just a dreamer but you are just a dream…you could have been any thing to me) AND Climate Change, oh well, it’s not like there haven’t been signs!
ol’ Bri-“there goes His Hero…watch him as he burns”
The Breeders? “Cannonball”; is that a Deal Kim?
More Horror Road Crashes…say no more
Tamihere in. Now there is something to think about.
Arm was strong heralding the “power of the state to build houses” as scribed by the Parker Pen
(not a fan of “chippy” but then what would i know)
“Shot down in flames…aint it a shame…to be shot down in flames…yet we could always build a RONs
I hear Shearer strongly supports Tamihere. Reckon Shearer’s game plan is he needs a Maori on his front bench and Tamihere is the one.
I’ve made my calls over the last hour and this seems to be correct. Grant Robertson also spoke strongly in favour of giving Tamihere another chance.
In addition to courting the Maori vote, the strategy appears to be to help Labour cast off any remaining image of being ‘bleeding heart’ left wing. Jones and Tamihere to be given wide latitude in this.
I can’t help thinking that this call from the leadership is misguided.
It’s an insult to women and gays for the LP leadership to even consider having Tamihere stand! Definitely misguided. No principles! Anything to get elected and keep their status in the LP.
Yes its part of a concerted strategy by the Leadership team and its puppeteers (King/Mallard) to take Labour to the right. Roger Douglas must be laughing out loud today.
And that silly, weak Moira Coatsworth says its about “the need to be a party in unity and move on together” (TV3 News tonight). When did Tamihere EVER contribute to unity in the Party?!!!!
If that sexist and animal abuser is in the Labour Party then I am no longer a Labour supporter. I will be voting Greens unless David Cunliffe gets in and shows a fraction of the common sense of the idiots in the party at present.
Well, I have been content to vote Green while waiting for Labour to become a credible left wing party again, i.e. promoting social justice for all sections of the community rather than pandering to the middle-class neoliberal media.
So, now, in order to try to attract a section of the community they haven’t supported well-enough fr a while, they want to jettison another section of the community – but not their allegiance to the media & neoliberal consensus. They are truly a confused bunch.
If Tamihere stands as a candidate in West Auckland, I’ll do something I’ve never done before – join a party (the Greens) and go out on the streets campaigning for them. That’s how angry the idea of a return of Tamihere makes me.
Why what’s wrong with Tamihere?
John will be a lifeline for the party when it has it leadership election in February.
As the labour party has got no one else.
well, just for a Rogue opinion, this “Tamihere” thing is not going to end well; might as well have pulled
the pin and placed said pin between teeth; Jesus Wept, but what would he know as Benghazi is suggesting? A big fat diabetic NO to JT is my opionion; this is going to end in tears and that is my last
word on the matter; very sad day, yet he is not a candidate yet God Help us 🙂
meanwhile, Christchurch does not appear well at all, not at all, no Siree Gerry.
meanwhile, a new level of “ruthlessness” in Syria and TPTB have shut the “net” down; suplise suplise.
meanwhile, great infrastructure support for East Timor from China, God Bless China and the CCP
(we look forward to the third-year plan implementation)
🙂
To select Tamahere and demote Cunliffe in the one month is a direct snub to the working class credentials of Labour.
To suggest Tamahere is there to encourage a racially and tolerant image for Labour is a joke. He appeals to pakeha rednecks who will never vote for a left Labour.
This is direct challenge to the ethnic Sector, Carmel Sepuloni, David Cunliffe and all the members who voted for a modern open democratic Labour Party.
Shearer and Robertson must think the Conference was a vote of confidence in their stunning performance of the past year
Shearer and Ribrrtson must think the Caucus 100% vote meant they had won control back from the members!
NO, NO. NO.
Shearer and Robertson are in for a wake-up call.
They ate arrogant fools.
I am afraid you are quite correct Jazzabelle. My gut instinct to turn from Shearer after his unjust and distasteful actions last week is now justified. He showed his true colours then and now others are being revealed to be wearing his mark and it is not the mark or colour of the type of person I can support let alone unite with. Moira Coatsworth is whistling in the wind as far as I am concerned. I feel sure nothing good is going to come of this. If it is possible I will vote accordingly in February.
I’m not so sure they are in for a wake up call! King/Mallard have a very firm and vicious grip. And the Leadership team does whatever they suggest because they don’t actually have the skills to lead.
And why? Because King/Mallard do not qualify for a Parliamentary pension. They cannot afford to leave their Parliamentary incomes for a goodly while.
King/Mallard are poisonous and the Party hierachy needs to grow a spine and rise up and challenge them.
I don’t know about the hierarchy (I do – they don’t have a spine), but the party membership has always had a spine and it did indeed rise up. Fingers crossed for the coming months.
Found this an interesting read:
Still mulling it over so I’m not going to give any personal insights.
Thanks DTB. I take it to mean we need to know ourselves, and to not be afraid of offending by being who we are, in order to truly communicate with and understand others.
So I don’t feel quite so bad about commenting in anger,re Tamihere and the confused principles of Labour tonight…. though that may just be self-serving.
Agree but I think it goes some what beyond the classic Know Thyself to also say Be Thyself.
Interesting article on the Egyptian constitution.
Why is Egypt’s draft constitution so controversial?.
Let’s Be the Best FOR the World, Not IN the World
All such good questions and likely that most couldn’t answer them but I found this paragraph most interesting:
Because that is exactly where National Standards will take us. To a point where even the teachers won’t be able to comprehend the world around them.
Nice link. I”m trying to think of the last thing I bought and then asking the questions. Defining what is a need and what is a want is tricky. Needs that maintain current standard of living, or needs that ensure survival, or something in between?
John Tamihere, the “candidate from hell” …
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/141128/Candidate-from-hell-Tamihere-linked-with-Nats
There are hundreds of other links on Tamihere but I guess the Labour hierarchy don’t have Google.
The archive on his Radio Live rants will be keeping the Nats’ hit squad busy and happy – some really nasty stuff. The only possible defence would have been “it was a long time ago, he’s turned over a new leaf” – and yes, in theory anybody could .
Except Tamihere was attacking Labour only a few days ago (“headhunters gang” etc). He hasn’t changed, and it’s not even clear that the idiots in charge want him to.
Tamihere has money, staff, volunteers, position, networks, and major media access.
and that winning smile for the girls.
that adds up to the capacity to take Dr Sharples out pretty easy.
Either National or Labour would find him candidate material in those circumstances.
Perhaps like Jones he is more suited to National. So for that reason alone Labour choose to keep them.
Or perhaps rather Shearer needs someone to shore up his numbers once Beaumont replaces Jones after the Auditer-General’s report is out.
Also odd that Twyford is supporting Tamihere throughout. Is Twyford trying to take out Sepulina in Waitakere selection with Tamihere? Quite a darkness in operation there, a chilled dish of revenge served.
*Groan* Twyford is supporting Tamihere? If so, that increases the reasons for me getting active and becoming a Green Party member. Twyford is my MP. Sepuloni is still a more promising candidate for Waitakere than Tamihere, IMO. She came within a whisker last time. And since then all we’ve seen is Bennett’s vicious attacks on the least powerful.
Is Labour just becoming the Men’s Party?
And Tamihere is a big supporter of Charter Schools.
There are many a true saying!
The same goes for NZ.