Open mike 02/08/2016

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  1. Paul 1

    Does the government care about anything?
    Not worried or I’m comfortable seems to be a stock answer from ministers nowadays.

    Govt aware EU investigating NZ tax rules

    The government is aware that the European Parliament is investigating New Zealand in the wake of the Panama Papers but said it is not worried.

    The Panama Papers revealed how some of the world’s richest people use foreign trusts, including in New Zealand, to hide their wealth and avoid paying tax.

    In June, the European Parliament set up a special committee to investigate matters that were raised by the papers and it wants to blacklist countries that are operating as tax havens.

  2. Paul 2

    Is Winston Peters the only MP prepared to stand up for New Zealand’s rights regarding housing?
    Are we to be tenants in our own land as Labour and National bow down to their masters in the U.S. and China?
    Free trade deals signed by both parties have reduced our sovereignty and rights.'politicised

  3. Paul 3

    The Herald cannot spell.
    Their online headline presently reads as follows……

    Has Auckland property lost it’s shine?

    This is what happens when you cut back on quality staff.
    Too much time spent on Instasham and Fakebook.

  4. gsays 4

    We need a catchy phrase to describe the shaky coalition that is in power currently.

    National: no idealogues, stack it high sell it cheap, heartless ladder pullers (education (night schools), housing, health).

    Maori party: some knights and dames of the brown table, happy for some crumbs.

    Act: hard right, margin of error flunkies.

    United future… Pious bouffant who will lay down for anyone with a few baubles.

    What term encapsulates this mob that governs us?

    • BM 4.2

      Democratically elected majority.

      Suck on that.

      • Jones 4.2.1

        Classy BM.

      • gsays 4.2.2

        Hi BMW, perhaps “with some poor mannered supporters” could be added to the description.

      • save nz 4.2.3

        @ BM – elected majority

        With help from their no questions asked immigration policy, trying to get as many folks resident from Asia and overseas to support Mr Key – currently something like 1.5% per year increases in population from migration. Over the 9 year term of the Natz this can change the population over 13%.
        It is already predicted that Asian will be the 2nd largest demographic in NZ and over take Maori.
        Illegal Tweets from the All blacks on election day.
        Changing legalisation to render people unable to vote (with high Maori demographics).
        Dirty politics.
        Manipulating and controlling the MSM messages.
        Stopping investigative journalists by any way they can.
        Burying bad news.
        Corrupting and co opting the Maori party to help them in their dirty deeds.

        • gsays

          Hi save nz,
          You can add Canterbury environment crowd, Saudi sheep shenanagins and a few schools with unnecessary statutory management to the list of ‘Democratic actions’ this corrupt mob have undertaken.

      • Stuart Munro 4.2.4

        Says who – mass disenfranchisements right left and center. If you didn’t get to vote you have an absolute right to oust the Key junta.

      • Andrea 4.2.5

        “Democratically elected majority.”

        Are you sure?

        Looked more like a subset of the minority who vote… We don’t do ‘democracy’ here.

    • Sabine 4.3

      the question should be

      What term encapsulates this group that voted for this.

      Cause at some stage the people that voted for this need to be held accountable.

      • Planet Earth 4.3.1


      • BM 4.3.2

        What do you mean by held accountable?

        • Bea Brown

          I think she means line them up and shoot them.
          Or perhaps just the gulag.

          [This site doesn’t accept advocating violence. Suggesting that others are advocating violence without evidence is also bad form. Please tone it down in future. TRP]

          • Sabine

            are you advocating violence? Or are you just bored and like to put your hands into shit and fling it about?

        • Sabine

          required or expected to justify actions or decisions; responsible.
          “ministers are accountable to Parliament”
          synonyms: responsible, liable, answerable, chargeable; More
          able to be explained or understood.
          “the delayed introduction of characters’ names is accountable, if we consider that names have a low priority”
          synonyms: explicable, explainable; More

          • Bea Brown

            So you want those voters to be held liable for their vote or to justify it or be answerable for it. And what then – charged? For what? And what are the penalties you have in mind?
            Your helpful recourse to a dictionary raises even more questions about how you want to hold voters accountable for exercising their democratic rights.
            It sounds a bit ominous so please do explain.

            • Sabine

              here honey, have a some tissues to wipe away your crocodile tears.

              poor misunderstood thing you.

              • BM

                How are National voters going to get held accountable?

                • Sabine

                  well the national voters coming to my shop complaining about stuff are being told by me that thy voted for this government, three times to be precises, which means they must like what they get served and as such should simply shut the fuck up or vote differently the next time.

                  you know, you buy it you own it.
                  or you break it you own it.

                  you know accountability.

                  so mate, you kids not finding a house to live any where in nz. shut the fuck up, you voted for that shit.

                  the road that was build with tax payers money going to be a toll road, shut the fuck up you voted for that shit.

                  need surgery and can’t get one cause waiting lists, you voted for that shit so shut the fuck up.

                  have cancer and are unemployed and the lady tells you to get a fucking job or no benefit? you voted for that shit, so shut the fuck up.

                  you know, you voted for that shit, now eat it. all of it. and don’t ever come around to me and complain.

                  so there? happy mate?

                  • weka

                    god, I so hope that you really do do that.

                  • Reddelusion

                    Your shop sounds like wonderful comic relief, do we get the swearing with an accent

                  • Chuck

                    Then Sabine you are very lucky the Nat voters that come into your shop are so understanding of your condition*… and kept coming back to buy stuff from you.

                    Even after slagging them off each time they do 🙂


                  • mosa

                    SABINE i love your shit … dont stop.
                    Give them hell.

                  • Wensleydale

                    If I knew where your shop was, I’d hang around outside as traumatised National voters emerged sobbing into their hankies. It’s nice to have it confirmed that the customer is not always right. Sometimes the customer is a whining self-absorbed git.

                • Hmmmm. We could make them pay a fair share of tax. Or nationalise the flogged off power companies. Or just make them look their grand kids in the eye while they explain how they voted for the young to be locked out of home ownership.

              • Bea Brown

                Sorry I hadn’t realised you were just spraying.

  5. Paul 5

    We have far too many pressing needs in the world to be blowing billions on the Olympic Games, which has morphed into a bloated corporate show, drowning in drugs and all about petty national rivalries.
    It appears to be a precursor to war rather than a chance to heal the world’s divides.
    It is a rich nation’s event.
    The Olympics has passed its use by date.

    • Ad 5.1

      As a career path, Olympic athlete is not a high public subsidy per person.

      But the evaluative ruler for the whole event itself would be:
      would the city have been better off or worse off in the long term if they hadn’t happened there?

      On the negative side: Toronto, Athens.

      On the meh side: Los Angeles, Moscow, Sydney

      On the positive side: Barcelona, London, Beijing, Seoul

  6. Paul 6

    A article well worth reading.
    Supports much of what cv has been posting.

    “Climate Change Activism: A Post-Mortem

    As I write these words, much of North America is sweltering under near-tropical heat and humidity. Parts of the Middle East have set all-time high temperatures for the Old World, coming within a few degrees of Death Valley’s global record. The melting of the Greenland ice cap has tripled in recent years, and reports from the arctic coast of Siberia describe vast swathes of tundra bubbling with methane as the permafrost underneath them melts in 80°F weather. Far to the south, seawater pours through the streets of Miami Beach whenever a high tide coincides with an onshore wind; the slowing of the Gulf Stream, as the ocean’s deep water circulation slows to a crawl, is causing seawater to pile up off the Atlantic coast of the US, amplifying the effect of sea level rise.

    All these things are harbingers of a profoundly troubled future. All of them were predicted, some in extensive detail, in the print and online literature of climate change activism over the last few decades. Not that long ago, huge protest marches and well-funded advocacy organizations demanded changes that would prevent these things from happening, and politicians mouthed slogans about stopping global warming in its tracks. Somehow, though, the marchers went off to do something else with their spare time, the advocacy organizations ended up preaching to a dwindling choir, and the politicians started using other slogans to distract the electorate.”

    • Ad 6.1

      Stop reading wrist-slitting melancholy. And stop encouraging others to do the same.

      Accept the world is going to end, as are we all, and still do good in the world.
      It’ll do wonders for your complexion.

      • weka 6.1.1

        Yeah the sun is going to explode eventually, we should give up now.

      • Paul 6.1.2

        I do good for other
        Yet I am not prepared to buy into the line that NZ is a paradise, as propagated by Hosking, Henry and you.

        • Mainlander

          No Paul you are a miserable cut & paste doomsayer, as Ad correctly alludes to, try going outside into that nasty climate you speak of so often, it might do you the world of good

          • Stuart Munro

            Ad Hom much? Explain the suicide rate asshole.

          • Reddelusion


          • Paul

            Isn’t the point of Open Mike to broach topics worthy of conversation?

          • reason

            …. and Mainlander comes from a long line of village idiots ….. giving stupid advice like a useless Dr Dill……

            Dr Ad is also sad …….. his advice …………. ignore whats bad.

            And sing ……………. sing …………. Always look on the bright side of life, de do de do de do………. “Life’s a Piece of Shit, When You Look at It.”

            It helped Brian……

      • marty mars 6.1.3

        It is the opposite of melancholy – as you’d know if you bothered to read the article.

    • Colonial Viper 6.2

      Stop reading wrist-slitting melancholy. And stop encouraging others to do the same.

      i’ll tell you what wrist slitting melancholy is, it’s the message that all human beings are born sinners.

      Compared to that, the message of the Archdruid is one of outright positivity.

      By the way, wasn’t the end of the world going to come through fire, floods, pestilence that kind of thing? You don’t think that climate change may have a role to play in that?

  7. b waghorn 7

    lprent the replies aren’t working on my laptop its windows 10 but set up with google . I get them on the smarter than me phone though.

  8. SmallFurryAnimal 8

    “Hitlery” news today. (Think FACTA, but for blogs…I guess that would include this one given the US propensity for jumping geographic boundaries)

    • joe90 8.1

      Best you organise your bug-out pack, freeze dried tucker and gold so you’re good to go.

  9. SmallFurryAnimal 9

    @ real DonaldTrump thinks that democrats care about his opinion, how does it feel putting your stuff where it doesn’t belong ?

    @Hillary Clinton. Ask Bill.

    • Fake. Better right wing memes needed. #wrathofkhan

      • One Two 9.1.1

        Bill Clintons sexual ‘indescretions’ are no, meme

        They are a matter of record!

        You were boots n all into Assange, and straight out accused him of rape a number of times in articles and comments, yet edit, censor and shout down any suggestion about Bill Clintons rape accusations

        Why the glaring inconsistency?

        • te reo putake

          No inconsistency. It is not me that has accused Assange of rape, it’s the Swedish authorities. I just think he should face the charges and defend himself in court, like the rest of us have to when charged with offences. The supposed tweet does not exist. It’s made up. It is a gender based insult against Hillary Clinton, not Bill Clinton. And even if it were, Bill Clinton currently has no legal case to answer on his alleged behaviour, which is not the case for Assange, obviously. Your argument fails completely.

          • One Two

            Failure (of the hypocrisy test) is authoring articles such as ‘Broken’ while making excuses for swinging dicks like Bill Clinton

            Simultaneously claiming that Hillarys “lifetime of public service” mitigates the bribes taken from corporate america and the war crimes for which Hillary is, at best an accomplice

            Hillarys crimes against humanity (man/woman/environment) deserve no excuse or cover story, yet you have done exactly that in an overt way, using this site as the medium and moderating approach as tactics

            The complete bias toward Hillary is as ludicrous as your claims of “gender based insults”

            The gender based insult is Hillary Clinton herself!

            • te reo putake

              I’ve never made excuses for Bill Clinton. As I noted he’s not charged with anything and the one thing we do know about (Lewinsky) there is no excuse for. But that’s a moral argument, not a legal one, as far as I can tell. Two consenting adults etc. I’m in a good mood, so I’ll just point out that the current time off for lying about authors is a six week ban. And take it easy on telling me what I have or should not have written, OK?

              btw. if you don’t understand what a gender based insult is, just say so. Or google the term and educate yourself.

              • Colonial Viper

                Skolkovo Russian innovation centre flows funds to the Clinton Foundation

                Speaking of facts.

                As Schweizer continues, “soon, dozens of U.S. tech firms, including top Clinton Foundation donors like Google, Intel and Cisco, made major financial contributions to Skolkovo, with Cisco committing a cool $1 billion. In May 2010, the State Department facilitated a Moscow visit by 22 of the biggest names in U.S. venture capital—and weeks later the first memorandums of understanding were signed by Skolkovo and American companies…

                Of the 28 “partners,” 17, or 60%, have made financial commitments to the Clinton Foundation, totaling tens of millions of dollars, or sponsored speeches by Bill Clinton…

                Russians tied to Skolkovo also flowed funds to the Clinton Foundation. Andrey Vavilov, the chairman of SuperOx, which is part of Skolkovo’s nuclear-research cluster, donated between $10,000 and $25,000 (donations are reported in ranges, not exact amounts) to the Clinton’s family charity”

                Apparently no charges have been laid around how Sec State Clinton used her influence to flow funds to the Clinton Foundation so by your standards TRP, nothing to see here.

                (Except more of the same crony $$$ behaviour from Hillary Clinton while in office).


              • One Two

                The gender based insult is Hillary Clinton herself

                You can add Slick Willy and his pedo friends to the same list!

      • McFlock 9.1.2

        John Oliver speaks the truth.

        Damaged, sociopathic, narcissist.

        • Colonial Viper

          Speaking of sociopathic, did you see how Hillary Clinton leaped for joy on TV at Qaddafi’s brutalising and mob killing?

          That’s actual sociopathic, btw.

          • McFlock

            No, I did not see that, because you made it up.

            Whereas trump is so alien to the concept of empathy that “the simple presidential duty of comforting the families of fallen soldiers may actually be beyond his capabilities”.

            • One Two

              You people are damaged goods bro

              So very damaged and with such low levels of consciousnes

              • McFlock

                And yet all you had to do to demonstrate it was link to video of her “leaping for joy”.

                You don’t operate at any higher level of consciousness than I do. Your pretension is no substitute for intelligence.

    • mosa 9.2

      Thats Brilliant SFA.
      Bill still brings so much joy to a troubled world.

  10. Puckish Rogue 10

    Does the NY Post want Trump to win because this is only going to increase his popularity

    • The Murdoch owned NY Post supports Trump. These are desperate days for the Donald.

    • ianmac 10.2

      Yes PR. The Democrats should retaliate by publishing nudies of Hilary.

      • Puckish Rogue 10.2.1

        Lets not…

        I mean do they really think showing pictures of his hot wife from 20 years ago is going to hurt him?

        • Sabine

          considering that Mike Pence VP is the one who represents a very large swath of extremely conservative christian , yes it could.

          also consider this.
          what would the republican party have said if the man who fathered five children with three women would have been a Obama or b a women who had five children with three men?

          So will it hurt him with the ones that look at women as objects to be replaced when to old, or to be used as a trophy who does not smile nor speak, i don’t think so.

          but then there are over three hundred million in that country, It will be good fun till election time, here and there.

          • Puckish Rogue

            I think a lot of people will look at her and go “shes hot” (and sadly because of it vote Trump) and still more will think its not a good look for the NY Post and vote Trump out of sympathy

            Or not

            • Sabine

              as per below the ones who look as women as a thing that has to be hot yeah, they would vote and also props like masturbating over the first lady.

              however, she might be keenly aware that she can be dumped at any given moment like the previous mrs. trumps and be replaced with a 20 year younger model.

              personally i don’t care, she was a model and did as models do. However, being the ‘first lady’ of the moral, christan, no sex education, abstinence only, virgin brides, no sluts evangelic party this could cause a bit of a brain freeze for some of the more ‘fundamentalist’ christian voters;

              popcorn and vodka required for this season.

              • Puckish Rogue

                “personally i don’t care, she was a model and did as models do. However, being the ‘first lady’ of the moral, christan, no sex education, abstinence only, virgin brides, no sluts evangelic party this could cause a bit of a brain freeze for some of the more ‘fundamentalist’ christian voters;”

                Sure if Trump was running as a typical GOP candidate but Trumps a bit different so I don’t think it’ll hurt him, its more likely it’ll help

                Whatever happens at least it’ll be entertaining

    • ianmac 11.1

      Ugly Truth. The tape really confirms our worst fears about TPPA. And now if it is ratified by all, the world will shift forever. What will happen to my grandchildren?

      Funny that much of manufacturing, including that of USA and NZ, has shifted to China and yet Obama’s aim is to shut out China from the Pacific region.

      • UglyTruth 11.1.1

        The TPPA conforms to the general pattern of consolidation of political power in the hands of those with little motivation to act in the public interest. I’m optimistic that this pattern of behaviour will collapse and the future for new generations will be far brighter than what we know today.

        The US is apparently still wedded to the doctrine of full spectrum dominance, the military exercises in the East China Sea signify meaningful opposition to this IMO.

    • Garibaldi 11.2

      I want to see the Labour Party reject the TPPA outright. Imo if this is not done then there is no hope for us as a sovereign nation.

      • UglyTruth 11.2.1

        Real sovereignty isn’t the same an the political supremacy that the state calls sovereignty. There’s a massive paradigm shift involved in achieving sovereignty, Brexit was a good example of how steps can be taken.

    • GregJ 11.3


      Just a quick request – would you mind just putting in a short line of context when putting up a link? I personally don’t like clicking/selecting links without some idea of what it is I’m looking at. Thanks. 🙂

    • ianmac 12.1

      Seems just petty to me.

      • Anne 12.1.1

        I thought Nanaia Mahuta’s comments at the end of the interview were telling. She listed pieces of legislation passed by the NAct govt. which cut across the Treaty of Waitangi… yet we’ve not heard a peep out of the Maori Party.

        She also reminds us we already have our own Indigenous Rights Treaty and didn’t need to sign up to another one. Very good point.

        The Maori Party are being disingenuously spiteful and petty minded – as you say ianmac. They represent a small Maori elite and not the rest of the Maori populace. The sooner they’re gone the better.

        • BM

          Very colonialist of you Anne, knowing whats best for Maori.

          • te reo putake

            Actually, BM, what’s good for maori is good for all of us. And Anne is correct to point out that the maori party have done nothing of substance for the people they claim to represent since they were formed. Indeed, given the increase in negative stats for maori, it’s easily argued that they have helped harm maori as part of the NACT government.

            When I first saw the item, I did toy with the idea of writing a post. But, really, who cares what they say? Their actions (and inactions) speak louder than their words.

          • weka

            It’s not like you support Māori to define their own reality BM. The neoliberal agenda is beyong that.

        • weka

          Seems like legitimate reasons to me,

          Along with the contentious foreshore and seabed law in 2004, Ms Fox said there were other decisions by Miss Clark’s Labour government that cast doubt on what kind of Secretary-General she would be.

          “The Labour Party refused to sign the Declaration for the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, which is a part of the UN agenda.

          “The Labour Party in its time saw the Tuhoe raids and of course also there is the Foreshore and Seabed amendment which took the rights of Māori away to go to court.”

          I’d add to that ‘haters and wreckers’.

          Ms Fox said someone seeking the top role at the United Nations should be able to acknowledge their past mistakes and apologise for them.

          That seems to be the crix of it. If Clark still believes that she was right on all the things above, then it’s completely reasonable for Māori to not support her to the UN role.

          Te Tiriti is not a replacement for the Declaration for the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

        • weka

          I thought Nanaia Mahuta’s comments at the end of the interview were telling. She listed pieces of legislation passed by the NAct govt. which cut across the Treaty of Waitangi… yet we’ve not heard a peep out of the Maori Party.

          She also reminds us we already have our own Indigenous Rights Treaty and didn’t need to sign up to another one. Very good point.

          I can’t see that (they might have removed it). If it’s still visible can you please cut and paste?

          • Karen

            Marama Fox had a very different view back in April when she backed Helen Clark.


            • Rosemary McDonald

              “But Maori party co-leader Marama Fox says that’s what happens when politicians have to choose between what’s right and what’s popular.”

              Or what fits the agenda of your political bedmates.

              Well spotted Karen.

              Marama, (and the rest of the Maori Party past and present)


              Lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.

              “The quote has a large almost universally agreed meaning of “You should be cautious of the company you keep. Associating with those of low reputation may not only lower your own but also lead you astray by the faulty assumptions, premises and data of the unscrupulous.””

              I’d also add…shit sticks.

              • weka

                Yeah, but let’s face it, the only choices they’ve had are National or Labour, both of whom have done pretty serious negative shit to Māori.

                Let’s also remember that the Māori Party may be part of forming the next left wing government. How will we deal with the shit then? Or would we prefer they went with National again?

                • Rosemary McDonald

                  “Māori Party may be part of forming the next left wing government.”

                  On what do you base that statement?

                  I’m not being argumentative here….but I just can’t ever see this happening.

                  • adam

                    The Māori party has a mandate from its people to be inside the tent. That is policy, so they will support who ever has a majority to get a seat at the table.

                    Now if the Māori party get 3-4 seats (a possibility) and Green/labour are the majority – then the Māori party will support them.

                    I actually think it’s quite smart of Marama to raise this as she has – it shows Māori, where labour are at. It also keeps alive the issues for Māori and keeps their issues front and centre, rather than floating in the ether.

                  • weka

                    Lots of people assume that the Māori Party are right wing, but I don’t think they are. Their primary political loyalty is to Māori. What reason is there that would stop them supporting a L/G government? Policy? History?

                    Plus what adam said.

                    • The Chairman

                      “Their primary political loyalty is to Māori”

                      Yet, race doesn’t determine ones political allegiance.

                      Therefore, how can political loyalty to a race represent their vast and varying political desires?

                    • weka

                      Why don’t you ask them*? That’s the point. In this instance, your views on how people form political allegiances are not that relevant compared to theirs.

                      *or failing that, just read/listen to what is in the public domain. Plenty of Māori talking about it, but you have to be willing to hear what they say.

                    • The Chairman

                      No, the point was I was asking you.

                      Moreover, you wrongly assume I don’t read/listen to what’s in the public domain.

                      I forewarned the Party would split long before it happened, for that very reason. People of one race don’t necessarily share the same political view or desires.

                    • weka

                      “People of one race don’t necessarily share the same political view or desires.”

                      Of course not, I haven’t said they did.

                    • The Chairman

                      “Of course not”

                      Indeed. Therefore, I’ll ask you again. How can political loyalty to a race genuinely represent the vast and varying political desires of said race?

                    • weka

                      I haven’t said that either, but feel free to have that conversation with yourself.

                    • The Chairman

                      “I haven’t said that either”

                      Not directly. However, At 1.37pm yesterday you stated lots of people assume that the Māori Party are right wing, but you don’t think they are, stating their primary political loyalty is to Māori.

                      Yet, you agree race doesn’t determine ones political allegiance, but concluded loyalty to their race somehow substituted a political positioning (i.e. left, right, centre).

                      Therefore, the line their primary political loyalty is to Māori is little more than feel good waffle. It means little in political reality.

                      A political Party can’t be solely loyal to a race, people of one race don’t necessarily share the same political view or desires. Its role requires it to take a political positioning on matters. thus loyalty to a race doesn’t substitute a political Party’s positioning.

                      Which, in case you missed it, was the point I was making.

                    • weka

                      Well done on finally saying what you think. But let’s be very clear that very little of that is related to my own views or comments. I really don’t like my politics misrepresented and you’re pretty close to doing that here. Please don’t do it again.

                    • The Chairman

                      Crikey! Settle down weka.

                      Your comments can often have indirect meaning, leaving your position on certain matters unclear. Which is why I initially questioned you (to establish what your position was) and later went on to point out to you how your comments can be misconceived.

                      Nonetheless, I’m still unclear what your position is. Where do you see the Māori Party sitting in the political spectrum?

              • YNWA

                Any chance John Key had anything to do with this?

            • Anne

              Oh dear… she doesn’t know whether she’s Arthur or Martha. 😀

            • Karen

              Just want to make it clear that I thought Helen Clark’s handling of the Seabed and Foreshore issue was appalling and easily the worst thing she ever did. I thought she had acknowledged that it was wrong and apologised but can’t remember where or when (except that it was after she was PM).

              Interesting to hear Andrew Little on Checkpoint last night say that as president of the Labour Party he opposed the Act but it was a parliamentary decision.

              I do think, however, Helen Clark would do more for indigenous rights than some of the other likely contenders for the post of UN Secretary-General.

            • weka

              Why did you post that link?

            • Anne

              weka @
              Sorry, weka I misread your comment. Nanaia made the remarks at the end of the embedded interview on RNZ – not the item itself.

          • adam

            Anne I’m going to call you on misrepresenting Nanaia on the issues of the Indigenous Rights Treaty. She did not say what you are saying. She was talking about caveats, which would restrain the Treaty of Waitangi.

            Funny, Nanaia did almost apology for the foreshore debacle, then she is almost falling over herself to defended the hard right knee jerk legislation labour passed as better than what we have. Sad.

            Dover is still bitter he lost his seat to the Maori party. So the irony is not lost on me with his bluster.

            Good on Marama being the fox amongst the chickens.

            • Rosemary McDonald

              “Good on Marama being the fox amongst the chickens.”

              I respect those who speak out according to their principals.

              But only if their principals are consistent…not changeable according to the political climate.

              noun: fox; plural noun: foxes
              a carnivorous mammal of the dog family with a pointed muzzle and bushy tail, proverbial for its cunning.
              synonyms: literaryReynard
              the fur of a fox.
              a cunning or sly person.
              “a wily old fox”
              NORTH AMERICANinformal
              a sexually attractive woman.
              verb: fox; 3rd person present: foxes; past tense: foxed; past participle: foxed; gerund or present participle: foxing
              baffle or deceive (someone).
              “the abbreviation foxed me completely”
              behave in a cunning or sly way.
              “to his mind everybody was dodging and foxing”

              Which definition fits Marama? (If we’re going to play on words.)

              • adam

                I’d say all of the above.

                If you are going to follow the wishes of your people, and be inside the tent. Then I’d hope she is/has a bit of each.

                But as for chickens – was my use a verb, or a noun? Or indeed both?

            • Anne

              I did not misrepresent Nanaia and I take offence at you saying so Adam. You are being obtuse and pedantic. I don’t give a f*** about the process the govt may have adopted re- legislation/regulations. The effect is still the same – to undermine the many disadvantaged Maori living on or below the minimum wage, or having their special rights eroded. That is what I took from Nanaia’s comments and she sure knows a darn sight more about the subject than you do.

              • adam

                You brought up the point to discredit Marama, I’m saying you got it wrong. If that is being obtuse and pedantic, then guilty as charged.

                This debate has nothing to do with the position of Māori, except that Māori have a differing opinion on Helen Clark.

                I mean claims of utu to treachery. Far out, from a few comments about the Treaty, and the foreshore.

                Nothing quite like those in the centre, and their ability to make a storm in a tea cup.

                • Anne

                  Māori have a differing opinion on Helen Clark.

                  Wrong. The “Maori Party” have a differing opinion, and its based on spite and petty political posturing.

                  Can’t understand why you’re standing up for them. They’re Nats in Maori guise. Have you changed you allegience and become a roaring Tory? 😮

                  • weka

                    Anne, I hope that you are not saying that all Māori have the same view on Clark other than the Māori Party.

                    How about addressing the points that adam raised?

                    Anne I’m going to call you on misrepresenting Nanaia on the issues of the Indigenous Rights Treaty. She did not say what you are saying. She was talking about caveats, which would restrain the Treaty of Waitangi.

                  • adam

                    Well I was hopeful you’d answer my question, but instead you came back with an ad hominem.

                    Ironic really, as the only media personality I see whose seething about Marama Fox and her comments is Paul Henry. Actually your comments have been pretty consistently in line with his.

                    Back to the question, I know I’m a sucker for punishment.

                    “Anne I’m going to call you on misrepresenting Nanaia on the issues of the Indigenous Rights Treaty. She did not say what you are saying. She was talking about caveats, which would restrain the Treaty of Waitangi.”

    • Typo of the day from a Herald headline:

      Dame Tariana Turia supports Helen Clark in her big to be United Nations Secretary General

      • Anne 12.2.1

        Typo aside, I retract my statements about Tariana Turia yesterday evening (I think) when this story broke. I was wrong. She has been able to move on from the F&S scandal and good on her for doing so.

    • Daveosaurus 12.3

      No surprise at all. It’s not without reason that I call that bunch the Kūpapa Party.

  11. Atiawa 13

    Since the introduction of compulsory voting in Australia in 1924, the turnout has never fallen below 90%. Voting, like compulsory education or jury service is a civil duty that cannot simply be ignored.
    Is there a brave enough political party that is prepared to insist that a referendum at the time of a General Election be held to allow voters the opportunity to decide upon compulsion versus voluntary voting?

    • fisiani 13.1

      Voting is not a civil duty. It is a civil right. Rights do not mean a duty. You have a right to stand for election, you do not have a duty to do so.
      Will the Left stoop to compulsion to get the missing million to vote? Many people choose not to vote. That is not the same as ignoring. Just because the majority want a National led government does not mean that we need to force people to cast their vote. Next you’ll be enticing them with KFC.

      • Sabine 13.1.1

        ohhhh, don’t want disenfranchiserd people going to the poll then now?

        let me put it differently,

        voting is a right that was fought for people who had no rights, and opposed by people that ‘held all the rights’ . You seem to be supporting the ones that opposed the universal rights to a vote.

        voting is a right and a duty. And why should it not be compulsory?

        • Bob

          Are you saying we should take away peoples rights to not vote in protest?

          • Sabine

            no i am saying that if voting would be compulsory it should include the option of
            NONE OF THE ABOVE
            cause protest.

      • Atiawa 13.1.2

        Yeah yeah yeah. Soon you’ll be saying that paying taxes is a civil right. Oh that’s right, you do.
        Because voting is a matter of secrecy, there is nothing to stop the voter from invalidating their vote.
        In the May 2005 UK elections, turnout varied significantly from 74.6% in Dorset West to 41.5% in Liverpool Riverside. By contrast, the turnout of all but 2 electorates in the Australian elections in October 2004 was over 90% – the exceptions were Kalgoorlie with 83.53% & Lingiari with 77.71%, both covering remote areas with transient populations -. ( Source; Tim Evans, Director Election Systems & Policy, Australian Electoral Commission 16 January 2016 ).

        • fisiani

          You have a right to not vote. It’s called democracy.

          • Atiawa

            ” There are many things that people do not wish to do and which they would not do if they were able to exercise “individual freedoms”, but which parliament has legislated to require. The role of parliament in a parliamentary democracy includes passing laws to ensure the effectiveness of that democratic system”.
            Source: Submission to JSCEM by the Australian Public Interest Advocacy Centre.

          • miravox

            “You have a right to not vote. It’s called democracy.”

            Wow. I can’t believe I almost agree with you. Now if we can tie that in with the right not to be disenfranchised, civics education and fair political funding, we might have a win.

      • Draco T Bastard 13.1.3

        Oh, look at that, a RWNJ arguing against personal responsibility.

        • Bob

          It’s a privilege not a responsibility, that’s where you are getting confused

          • Draco T Bastard

            No, it’s a responsibility. That’s how democracy works – people taking full responsibility for their governance.

    • b waghorn 13.2

      $50 to every one as they vote , with the option to either decline accepting it or donating it to one of 3 or 4 designated charities .

      • fisiani 13.2.1

        $50 KFC voucher surely.

        • b waghorn

          I would of thought one for the local bdsm club would be more to your taste, i’m sure if you’re nice they might even let you stroke a pony tail or two.

          • Sabine

            you sure are generous. but it does seem that fisiani has a thing for kfc. must be that secret spice ingredient.

            I would like to see obligatory voting, but then i would also like to see the option of “none of the above” added. If ‘none of the above’ wins, all parties have to go back to the drawing board and try harder.

            • b waghorn

              How much would it cost to chase all those people that can’t be bothered voting , then you fine them when you catch them, then they hate the system even more and some refuse to pay the fine so they get hounded and fined a
              bit more.
              Far better to make it a day off work and a and occasion .
              Make the likes of starship and kidscan recipients of the donated cash, and others can have a lunch out with the family or whatever. And those on poor street get a little bonus . What’s not to love?

              • Sabine

                I would not go and fine them, nor have i advocated it.

                but i do think that making it compulsory with education starting in the schools would not be too bad. You will always have those that will not play ball, but instead of fining them i would have them take say 5 lessons in school about – voting history, a world without voting, civic lessons and community politics and their importance.
                i think that would be a better approach. Punitive measures do not change behavior education does.

            • Draco T Bastard

              If ‘none of the above’ wins, all parties have to go back to the drawing board and try harder.

              It’s always been a concern of mine about the idea of ‘none of the above’ is what happens when a government isn’t chosen?

              This idea of leaving the caretaker government in place and holding another election is a possible option but it would probably have a lot of opposition due to the cost. It may be possible to overcome some of that opposition by going to online voting but even that has its nay-sayers.

  12. joe90 14

    Slip sliding away….

    Gallup has Trump as the first nom on record whose convention actually made people less likely to support him (36/51)— Liam Donovan (@LPDonovan) August 1, 2016

    But what's prob more interesting is who the RNC moved- @ThePlumLineGS has the breakdown:— Liam Donovan (@LPDonovan) August 1, 2016

    In other words CLE just magnified Trump's existing issues. Turned on white men/WWC. Turned off white women/college grads, indies, young ppl.— Liam Donovan (@LPDonovan) August 1, 2016

    GallupMore/Less Likely to Support Trump Post-RNCWhite M +19Non-college whites +16——White F -7White BA/BS -12Indies -2618-29 -38— Liam Donovan (@LPDonovan) August 1, 2016

    edit: According to Nate Silver Clinton now has a better than 82% probability of winning.

    So sad.

  13. The Chairman 15

    “Although I personally believe Richard has done a good job to date for the Council and the city…I nevertheless do not believe that any manager in a public (or private for that matter) enterprise should be paid over 11 times the salary of the lowest paid worker in that organisation,” Macpherson said.

    He believed the council should prioritise a Living Wage minimum of $20 per hour for council staff, before increasing the chief executive’s take home pay by $50,000.


    • Colonial Viper 15.1

      Bureaucratic managerial class slapping itself on the back with obscene amounts of money, deluding themselves that they are supermen who are ‘worth it’.

      • The Chairman 15.1.1

        While robbing low income workers of the ability to own a home.

        With house prices skyrocketing, one would assume increasing low incomes would be part of the solution.

    • save nz 15.2

      Oh, that’s just trickle down, there Chairman.

      $50,000 to me, “thinking” about prioritising a living wage to you. Ok right can’t afford to pay the living wage but how about another pay rise for me for my efforts of thinking about you, cos we are in a democracy and all? Plus these councils have to spend a fortune on PR now, to make sure the rate payers know that the councillors are doing such a great job.

      Of course pay is bench marked to what others in the same sector get, not what they actually do or should be paid. Anti performance pay – where you get a pay rise because you have to keep up with others at the same role in the trough of neoliberalism.

      • The Chairman 15.2.1

        Rebalancing incomes is part of the required solution. Benchmarking needs to be revised to help address this.

        Not only is it holding people back, the negative consequence is also the impact on consumer demand (thus, business returns) and growing household debt.

        Unfortunately, National doesn’t seem to acknowledge the role they play in growing inequality, nor seemingly, does this council.

    • weston 15.3

      Fuck that were constantly told that paying people peanuts gets you monkeys but if you ask me the opposite is true i think you could sack a huge number of vastly overpaid ceo.s put the job back up on the notice board at a third of the pay and find plenty of people who could do the job much better .And most definately have the base rate of the lowest payed workers at at least 20 bucks an hour .

  14. Tiger Mountain 16

    oh the hot tears at bedtime if the Mana and Māori parties co-operate in the Māori electorates and win back a few seats

    there could be a Labour led government right now if Labour had not campaigned against Internet Mana (yes in unison with all the other parties, but Labour put special effort in also to assist Kelvin) and torpedoed Hone in Te Tai Tokerau

    • The Chairman 16.1

      When I suggested on here that Hone should accept Labour’s open offer to join them and the Greens to overturn the Government, it was suggested to me the offer was only open to those already in parliament. Implying Labour and the Greens would rather work with the Maori Party, than with Mana. Go figure?

      • Sabine 16.1.1

        i have never heard of that. hmmm, personally i would like to think that anyone that wants to join should do so.
        hmm, now i must ask da labour man about that.

      • save nz 16.1.2

        For the sake of the country Hone and Labour need to get together and have a truce.

        National have screwed Maori more than Labour!

        And Labour should apologise for going against Mana. It was crazy politics, pure and simple. Who knows why they did it?? I just think there is a lot of manipulation from the Natz on Labour and Greens and clearly The Maori party is under their spell too.

        Maybe Hone is hard to work with, who knows what to believe, but he has much better ideas for poverty and change for Maori than any one else.

        I think the dream team is a mix of Labour, Greens, NZ First and Mana. That is who I would like to see in government with the majority. They are all better together in policy than individually as they cancel out the weird bits (spying and luke warm TPP from Labour would hopefully be cancelled out by the other three, more taxes on the middle class would hopefully be cancelled out by NZ First, etc, hopefully they start to think about creating well paid jobs internally with local people rather than shipping in cheap workers etc, education would start to be about education rather than foreign fees, they get rail working, they stop privatising everything, they have responsible relationships with China, Australia, US and EU, not losing all our rights like John Key is doing for less and cheaper milk powder sales.

    • weka 16.2

      there could be a Labour led government right now if Labour had not campaigned against Internet Mana (yes in unison with all the other parties, but Labour put special effort in also to assist Kelvin) and torpedoed Hone in Te Tai Tokerau

      How so? Can you post the maths to demonstrate that?

  15. joe90 17

    [rant on]

    We have a bloke in our community with a not so proud past of violent offending, although AFAIK not against women or children, and he’s done some quite serious time for his crimes. For many many years this bloke has stayed out of the limelight and out of trouble – until recently.

    The bloke lost the plot and did something mightily stupid and potentially fatal to the public, the law responded and he did such a marvelous job of barricading himself inside his home he required assistance to get himself out and was duly carted off to the cells. Meanwhile, local dog control officers arrived supposedly to deal with the bloke’s three dogs and were told by the law to corral the animals in the back yard.

    The attending plods knew the bloke well and were well aware of the part the dogs played in keeping him on the straight and narrow, knew he couldn’t afford any extra cost and knew arrangements would be made for their care until a permanent solution was found.

    But no, the fucking arsehole control officers took the blokes dogs, impounded them and three days later and off their own bat, euthanised all three.

    The bloke is distraught, the attending plods on the day knowing how the death of his dogs will affect the bloke are incensed and locals and other dog owners who know the bloke are infuriated. Added to the mix is the sneaking suspicion the fucking jobsworth who ordered the dogs be killed acted with malice toward the bloke. And they’ll get away with their actions because law and order and the bloke has neither the wherewithal nor skills to follow up.


    [rant off]

    • Sabine 17.1

      there is an fb page where people are happy to raise funds to help release impounded dogs.
      Usually dogs are held for seven days before being put to sleep or given up for adoption.
      three days is not on order.
      Have you thought of putting through an official complaint to the council, and also it may help going public.
      The pound workers are already having a hard time, what with homeless dogs everywhere cause their peeps can not find pet friendly rentals, and the pound workers that i encountered (i iz a serial adopter of old pooches) absolutely hate putting down healthy friendly dogs.

      this sucks. Lodge a protests with the council together with the others on his behalf.
      Dogs sometimes escape or run away and get impounded, the least we want to know for sure is how long a pound would hold the animal before either killing it or giving it up for adoption.

    • weston 17.2

      Which council was this joe90 ?

  16. joe90 18


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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • Silmarillion Fan Poetry: A Collection (2022-2024)
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    3 days ago
  • At a glance – The Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) is not causing global warming
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    4 days ago
  • Bryce Edwards: What’s to blame for the public’s plummeting trust in the media?
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    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    4 days ago
  • Dead on target
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • The PM sets nine policy targets- and in case you missed the truancy one, Seymour has provided some...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: Unwelcome advice
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • In a structural deficit, the only real tax cut is a spending cut
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • A Return to Kindness?
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago
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    Geoffrey Miller writes –  This could be a watershed week for New Zealand’s international relations. Winston Peters, the foreign minister, is heading to Washington DC for a full week of meetings. The surprisingly lengthy trip just happens to coincide with a major trilateral summit of leaders from the United States, ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Back to the future, with a 2032 deadline
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • Why Rod Carr is optimistic farmers can beat climate change
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    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago
  • Grifters, Bigots & Booling With the Dawgs
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    4 days ago
  • Goldsmith spots a cost-saver in his Justice domain – let’s further erode our right (under Magna ...
    Bob Edlin writes – Chapter 39 of the Magna Carta (from memory) includes the guarantee that no free man may suffer punishment without “the lawful judgment of his peers.” This was a measure which the barons forced on England’s King John to delegate part of his judicial authority ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago
  • Climate Adam: Is Global Warming Speeding Up?
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    5 days ago
  • Brooke is on the TV, being a Minister!
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • There’s gold – or rather, energy without carbon – in that rock, but Jones reminds us of the Tr...
    Buzz from the Beehive Oh, dear.  One News tells us an ownership spat is brewing between Māori and the Crown as New Zealand uses more renewable energy sources. No, not water or the shoreline.  Ownership of another resource has come into the reckoning. The One News report explained that 99% of ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Bad faith from National
    One of the weird features of the Zero Carbon Act was its split-gas targets, which separated methane, produced overwhelmingly by farmers, from carbon dioxide produced by the rest of us. This lower target for methane was another effective subsidy to the dairy industry, and was the result of a compromise ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on Israel’s murderous use of AI in Gaza
    This may seem like a dumb question– but how come Israel has managed to kill at least 33,000 Palestinian civilians in Gaza, including over 13,000 children? Of course, saturation aerial bombing and artillery shelling of densely populated civilian neighbourhoods will do that. So will the targeting of children by IDF ...
    Gordon CampbellBy ScoopEditor
    5 days ago
  • Total Eclipse of the Mind.
    All that you touch And all that you seeAll that you taste All you feelAnd all that you love And all that you hateAll you distrust All you saveEarly tomorrow morning as the sun is rising in Aotearoa many people across North America, from Mexico to Canada, will be losing ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • So why do that degree… here?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • The hunt is on for an asterix for farm emissions
    The Government is setting up its own experts group to review the goalposts for farmers to reduce methane emissions. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items of note for me in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy as of 9:06 am on Monday, April 8 are:The Government is setting up ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Geoffrey Miller: Aukus or not, New Zealand’s foreign policy is being remade
    This could be a watershed week for New Zealand’s international relations. Winston Peters, the foreign minister, is heading to Washington DC for a full week of meetings. The surprisingly lengthy trip just happens to coincide with a major trilateral summit of leaders from the United States, Japan and the Philippines. ...
    Democracy ProjectBy Geoffrey Miller
    5 days ago
  • The Kaka’s diary for the week to April 15 and beyond
    TL;DR: The six key events to watch in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy in the week to April 15 include:PM Christopher Luxon is scheduled to hold a post-Cabinet news conference at 4 pm today. The Climate Commission will publish advice to the Government this evening.Parliament is sitting from Question Time at 2pm ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #14
    A listing of 34 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, March 31, 2024 thru Sat, April 6, 2024. Story of the week Proxy measurement via Facebook "engagement" suggests a widely welcoming audience for Prof. Andrew Dessler's The Climate ...
    5 days ago
  • Their Money or Your Life.
    Brooke van Velden appeared this morning on Q&A, presumably paying homage to Margaret Thatcher. The robotic one had come in an 80s pink, shoulder-padded jacket, much favoured by the likes of Thatcher or Hosking. She also brought the spirit of Margaret, seemingly occupying her previously vacant soul compartment.Jack asked for ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Truth pulls its boots on
    It's a lot easier to pull off a lie if people don't know much about what you're lying about.Sometimes, watching Christopher Luxon, you get the impression he doesn't know all that much about it, either.​​ That's the charitable interpretation. The other is that he knows full well.He was on the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    6 days ago
  • Those of a certain vintage in this country will recognise that as a paraphrasing of the much celebrated Paul Holmes sign-off from his nightly current affairs show, yes, he of the “cheekie darkie” comment infamy (that one aimed at then-UN Chief Kofi Annan, and if unfamiliar with what followed in ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    6 days ago
  • Are You Missing Kindness Yet?
    In my last newsletter I asked how is Luxon this out of touch? Many of you, quite wisely, don’t do the Twitter thing so I thought I’d share a few of the comments from the cross section of humanity that you encounter there.The comment from Clandesdiner@boglyboohoo, not sure if that’s ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    7 days ago
  • How NZ and Taiwan differ in disaster preparedness
    Peter Dunne writes –  Taiwan and New Zealand are two small island states with much in common. Both are vibrant, independent democracies, living in the shadow of an overbearing neighbour. (Admittedly, Taiwan’s overbearing neighbour has far more aggressive tendencies than our at-times overbearing neighbour!) There is a strong ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    7 days ago
  • Why Shane Jones sunk the Kermadecs Marine Sanctuary
    Bryce Edwards writes – Did vested interests prevent New Zealand from establishing a world-leading environmental marine reserve? There are strong signs that in killing off the proposal for a Kermadec Islands Marine Sanctuary, Shane Jones has been doing the bidding of several industries and groups that he’s closely ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    7 days ago
  • Nearly a month of it
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 week ago
  • Coastal court action flies under the radar
    Graham Adams says NZ’s coastline may end up under iwi control. Former Attorney-General and Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Chris Finlayson is known for his forthright and sometimes combative language. In 2022, in discussing opposition to co-governance, he referred to “the sour right” and “the KKK brigade”. Last week, in ...
    Point of OrderBy gadams1000
    1 week ago
  • Does a Fiscal Debt Target Make Sense?
    Do we treat the government finances with the common sense that household’s manage theirs?It is a commonly held view that we should treat the government as if it is a prudent household. We don’t when it comes to its debt. Currently the government says it wants to constrain its net ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    1 week ago
  • Bryce Edwards: Why Shane Jones sunk the Kermadecs Marine Sanctuary
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    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Spite destroys success
    The clean car discount was a real policy success in pushing electrification of transport. It worked so well that EV adoption was running five years ahead of the Climate Commission's targets, giving us a real shot at decarbonising light transport. National killed it out of pure spite. And as expected, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago

  • Huge interest in Government’s infrastructure plans
    Hundreds of people in little over a week have turned out in Northland to hear Regional Development Minister Shane Jones speak about plans for boosting the regional economy through infrastructure. About 200 people from the infrastructure and associated sectors attended an event headlined by Mr Jones in Whangarei today. Last ...
    14 hours ago
  • Health Minister thanks outgoing Health New Zealand Chair
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board.   “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti.  “I have asked her to ...
    15 hours ago
  • Roads of National Significance planning underway
    The NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has signalled their proposed delivery approach for the Government’s 15 Roads of National Significance (RoNS), with the release of the State Highway Investment Proposal (SHIP) today, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.  “Boosting economic growth and productivity is a key part of the Government’s plan to ...
    19 hours ago
  • Navigating an unstable global environment
    New Zealand is renewing its connections with a world facing urgent challenges by pursuing an active, energetic foreign policy, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Our country faces the most unstable global environment in decades,” Mr Peters says at the conclusion of two weeks of engagements in Egypt, Europe and the United States.    “We cannot afford to sit back in splendid ...
    19 hours ago
  • NZ welcomes Australian Governor-General
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    20 hours ago
  • Pseudoephedrine back on shelves for Winter
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    21 hours ago
  • NZ and the US: an ever closer partnership
    New Zealand and the United States have recommitted to their strategic partnership in Washington DC today, pledging to work ever more closely together in support of shared values and interests, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.    “The strategic environment that New Zealand and the United States face is considerably more ...
    1 day ago
  • Joint US and NZ declaration
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    1 day ago
  • NZ and US to undertake further practical Pacific cooperation
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    1 day ago
  • Government redress for Te Korowai o Wainuiārua
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    2 days ago
  • Focus on outstanding minerals permit applications
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    2 days ago
  • Applications open for NZ-Ireland Research Call
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    2 days ago
  • Tenancy rules changes to improve rental market
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    2 days ago
  • Boosting NZ’s trade and agricultural relationship with China
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    2 days ago
  • Freshwater farm plan systems to be improved
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    3 days ago
  • New Fast Track Projects advisory group named
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    3 days ago
  • Pacific and Gaza focus of UN talks
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    3 days ago
  • Government honours Taranaki Maunga deal
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    3 days ago
  • Enhanced partnership to reduce agricultural emissions
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    4 days ago
  • 110km/h limit proposed for Kāpiti Expressway
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    4 days ago
  • New Zealand Biosecurity Awards – Winners announced
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    4 days ago
  • Attendance action plan to lift student attendance rates
    The Government is taking action to address the truancy crisis and raise attendance by delivering the attendance action plan, Associate Education Minister David Seymour announced today.   New Zealand attendance rates are low by national and international standards. Regular attendance, defined as being in school over 90 per cent of the ...
    4 days ago
  • World must act to halt Gaza catastrophe – Peters
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has told the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) in New York today that an immediate ceasefire is needed in Gaza to halt the ongoing humanitarian catastrophe.    “Palestinian civilians continue to bear the brunt of Israel’s military actions,” Mr Peters said in his speech to a ...
    4 days ago
  • Speech to United Nations General Assembly: 66th plenary meeting, 78th session
    Mr President,   The situation in Gaza is an utter catastrophe.   New Zealand condemns Hamas for its heinous terrorist attacks on 7 October and since, including its barbaric violations of women and children. All of us here must demand that Hamas release all remaining hostages immediately.   At the ...
    4 days ago
  • Government woolshed roadshow kicks off
    Today the Government Agriculture Ministers started their national woolshed roadshow, kicking off in the Wairarapa. Agriculture Minister Todd McClay said it has been a tough time for farmers over the past few years. The sector has faced high domestic inflation rates, high interest rates, adverse weather events, and increasing farm ...
    5 days ago
  • PM heads to Singapore, Thailand, and Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon will travel to Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines this week (April 14-20), along with a senior business delegation, signalling the Government’s commitment to deepen New Zealand’s international engagement, especially our relationships in South East Asia. “South East Asia is a region that is more crucial than ever to ...
    5 days ago
  • Prime Minister launches Government Targets
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced further steps to get New Zealand back on track, launching nine ambitious Government Targets to help improve the lives of New Zealanders. “Our Government has a plan that is focused on three key promises we made to New Zealanders – to rebuild the economy, ...
    5 days ago
  • Natural hydrogen resource should be free of Treaty claims entanglement
    Natural hydrogen could be a game-changing new source of energy for New Zealand but it is essential it is treated as a critical development that benefits all New Zealanders, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones is seeking to give regulatory certainty for those keen to develop natural, or geological, ...
    5 days ago
  • Government responds to unsustainable net migration
    6 days ago
  • New Zealand on stage at global Space Symposium
    Space Minister Judith Collins will speak at the Space Symposium in the United States next week, promoting New Zealand’s rapidly growing place in the sector as we work to rebuild the economy. “As one of the largest global space events, attended by more than 10,000 business and government representatives from ...
    6 days ago
  • $4.9m project completed with marae reopening
    A significant marae has reopened in the heart of Rotorua marking the end of renovations for the Ruatāhuna Marae Renovation Cluster, a project that provided much-needed jobs and regional economic stimulus, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones was at the official reopening of Mātaatua ki Rotorua Marae today. ...
    7 days ago
  • Pure Tūroa Limited to operate Tūroa ski field
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    7 days ago
  • Methane targets to be independently reviewed
    Rebuilding New Zealand’s economy will rely on the valuable agricultural sector working sustainably towards our climate change goals.  Today, the Climate Change and Agriculture Ministers announced that an independent panel of experts will review agricultural biogenic methane science and targets for consistency with no additional warming. Agriculture Minister Todd McClay ...
    7 days ago
  • NZ and Nordics: likeminded partners
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has highlighted the strong ties that bind New Zealand and the Nordic countries of Northern Europe during a trip to Sweden today.    “There are few countries in the world more likeminded with New Zealand than our friends in Northern Europe,” Mr Peters says.    “We ...
    1 week ago
  • First New Zealand C-130J Hercules takes flight
    The first New Zealand C-130J Hercules to come off the production line in the United States has successfully completed its first test flights, Defence Minister Judith Collins announced today. “These successful flights are a significant milestone for the New Zealand Defence Force, bringing this once-in-a-generation renewal of a critical airlift ...
    1 week ago
  • Government to rephase NCEA Change Programme
      The coalition Government is making significant changes to the NCEA Change Programme, delaying the implementation by two years, Minister of Education Erica Stanford announced today. “Ensuring New Zealand’s curriculum is world leading is a vital part of the Government’s plan to deliver better public services and ensure all students ...
    1 week ago
  • New Ngāpuhi investment fund Chair appointed
    Ben Dalton has been appointed the new board Chair of Tupu Tonu, the Ngāpuhi Investment Fund, says Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith and Associate Finance Minister Shane Jones. “Ben brings a wealth of experience in governance and economic development to the position. He will have a strong focus on ensuring ...
    1 week ago
  • Education should be prioritised ahead of protesting
    Students should be in school and learning instead of protesting during school hours, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. “If students feel strongly about sending a message, they could have marched on Tuesday when there was a nationwide teacher only day, or during the upcoming school holidays. It has become ...
    1 week ago
  • Delivering on Local Water Done Well
    Cabinet has agreed on key steps to implement Local Water Done Well, the Coalition Government’s plan for financially sustainable locally delivered water infrastructure and services, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says.  "Councils and voters resoundingly rejected Labour’s expensive and bureaucratic Three Waters regime, and earlier this year the Coalition Government ...
    1 week ago
  • Peters to visit New York, Washington D.C.
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters will engage with high-level United States Government and United Nations officials in the United States next week (6-12 April).    The visit, with programmes in New York and Washington D.C., will focus on major global and regional security challenges and includes meetings with US Secretary of ...
    1 week ago

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