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Open mike 04/11/2019

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  1. marty mars 1

    Great news for dunners and future proofing for us all

    The Government announced last week it was dedicating $19.97million of provincial growth funding to re-establish the workshop as a mechanical hub and heavy engineering facility to service KiwiRail's trains.

    Most work at Hillside ended in 2012, after KiwiRail awarded an estimated $29million manufacturing contract to a Chinese company, in what was seen at the time as a terminal blow to the workshops.

    The new investment meant KiwiRail would be able to earthquake-proof ageing buildings, get rid of asbestos, overhaul equipment at the site and more.

    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/search-hillside-workers

  2. ScottGN 2

    Demolition work in and around Mercury Lane starts today for the K Rd underground station.

  3. phantom snowflake 3

    Is Bradbury approaching peak self-parody??

    "…we know that the Wellington Twitteratti operate blacklists on secret Facebook pages naming anyone who has breached woke mantra (those screenshots will be embarrassing if released before the election), but the recent wins of censorship at Massey University and the Pride Parade abortion seem to have emboldened woke theology to new heights of dangerously alienating self importance."

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/11/03/the-woke-cancellation-of-cindy-sheehan-helen-steel-plus-what-happens-when-the-wellington-woke-find-out-the-new-feminism-conference-venue/

  4. Anne 4

    If ever there was a 'best example' of the sheer ignorance among the media of today this one has to take the cake:

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/our-biggest-tv-moments-50-years-since-first-network-news-bulletin-aired-in-nz

    In the mid 1970s, NZ saw one of the most shameful acts of politically motivated racist bashing in modern history. South Pacific islanders – who had been encouraged to come to NZ as cheap labour by a previous National govt. – were rounded up at dawn and iirc taken to Mt Eden prison to be interrogated. It went down as one of the darkest hours of our political history.

    The idiots who put the story together claimed Norman Kirk was the architect of the policy when it was, of course, Rob Muldoon:

    https://www.nzonscreen.com/title/dawn-raids-2005

    • Anne 4.1

      The item starts at 1:42 mins. Sorry, forgot to include.

    • alwyn 4.2

      I'm sorry Anne but I don't think you will find your claim to be true.

      The raids started in 1974 when we had a Kirk Labour Government. They certainly continued, and increased in scale when Muldoon was PM but they did start in Kirk's time.

      https://teara.govt.nz/en/ethnic-and-religious-intolerance/page-4

      "Raids on the homes of alleged overstayers – usually at dawn, to catch people before they woke – began in 1974."

      Most of the over-stayers of the time were not, in fact, from the Pacific Islands. There were more from Britain I believe.

      • Bearded Git 4.2.1

        Rubbish Alwyn it was all Muldoon…watch this video from 6.15 onwards

        https://www.nzonscreen.com/title/dawn-raids-2005

        • OnceWasTim 4.2.1.1

          +1

          Oh how history rhymes. Turns out it isn't just one damn thing after another.

          And these days, there hasn't seemed to be many "learnings going forwards"

          But "ultimately"……the latest f'up is more likely to blow up in our faces

        • OnceWasTim 4.2.1.2

          Actually @ BG, it reminds me of an incident I encountered only a couple of years ago when one of those 'old school' type coppers came up to me in a supermarket (somewhere in NuZull up north from where I am) to tell me how embarrassed he felt having to witness what was going on at the time. I now realise he was probably on the 'force' at the time of those 'dawn raids'. We'd both witnessed the same thing.

          Effectively dawn raids on a different demographic, and not at dawn. I wish to Christ now that we'd swapped details.

          • Bearded Git 4.2.1.2.1

            I'm sure many of the police hated the whole thing…they are probably haunted by it to this day.

            • Anne 4.2.1.2.1.1

              I'm sure many of the police hated the anti-Springbok tour thing in 1981 too.

              I wish someone would thoroughly research that era. Nicky Hager perhaps. So many hushed up stories to tell.

      • Anne 4.2.2

        Kirk died in August 1974. Yes, there would have been an immigration led investigation to ascertain the extent of visa over-staying, but I doubt it had much to do with the Kirk government. It would have been part and parcel of the Immigration Department's normal work processes.

        To infer as the TV item seemed to infer that the policy of targeting Pacific Islanders and introducing mass dawn raids was the work of Norman Kirk (who was a strong supporter of indigenous peoples around the world) showed gross ignorance on the part of TV1 news.

        What's more it was TVNZ who produced the documentary linked to… which describes the entire episode in detail. They have no excuses.

        • greywarshark 4.2.2.1

          https://teara.govt.nz/en/immigration-regulation/page-6

          ‘Three-month visas were in place from 1964, and annual quotas were set in 1967. But because the 1960s and early 1970s were years of economic expansion and labour shortages, the temporary visas and quotas were not strictly enforced. While the demand for unskilled labour remained high, the government in effect turned a blind eye to Samoans and other Pacific Islanders arriving on temporary visas and staying on, or arriving in greater numbers than the quotas allowed.

          Pacific Island migration in the 1970s

          The 1974 immigration policy review reaffirmed the free access to New Zealand of those born in the Cook Islands, Niue, and Tokelau. It also stated that Western Samoa, as a territory formerly administered by New Zealand, ‘holds a special place in the policy’.

          By the mid-1970s, demand for Pacific Island labour had diminished. The tolerance towards migrant workers on temporary permits from Western Samoa, Tonga and Fiji came to an end.

          The 1974 review sought to make a clear distinction between migrants with a legal right to remain permanently in New Zealand and those who had overstayed after entering on visitor or temporary permits. Enforcing the distinction led to dawn raids on Pacific Island households in Auckland, and other measures.’
          .
          but
          The statistics of prejudice
          A study carried out in 1985–86 was revealing: it showed that whereas Pacific Island people comprised only a third of overstayers, they made up 86% of all prosecutions for overstaying.

          Citizens from the United States and the United Kingdom who also made up almost a third of those overstaying, represented only 5% of prosecutions.

          • Anne 4.2.2.1.1

            Yes. The doco I linked to @4 and Bearded Git @ 4.2.1 does cover most of your points. What, in essence, happened: Muldoon took advantage of a situation to have a particular group of people targeted for party political purposes, and it was not the only time he did that sort of thing.

            I recall the "list of 100" names of people he released to the press who were supposed to have been "Communists". It included people who were not – and never had been – members of communist organisations but their reputations were permanently damaged. If I remember correctly he was taken to court by a few of them and was forced to pay them a few bob in damages. Well, I expect the tax payer paid them. People in high places could almost commit murder and never be brought to account.

        • OnceWasTim 4.2.2.2

          Don't get too bitter about it all though @ Anne. These master of the universe 'types' eventually fuck themselves up one way or another. The more you comment, the more I realise we've probably witnessed many of the same sort of shit going on. (why the 4.2.1.1 above).

          • Anne 4.2.2.2.1

            The more you comment, the more I realise we've probably witnessed many of the same sort of shit going on. (why the 4.2.1.1 above).

            It was 4.2.1. Yes I think we have. There are some seriously bad stories to tell from that period – stories that should be brought out into the open now that 40 years have passed.

            • OnceWasTim 4.2.2.2.1.1

              There are actually a couple of things that could lead to positive change (as that history is starting to rhyme).

              One is that people who've been part of it all. and don't like what they've seen, and who've taken it on…….. never EVER agree to any sort of confidentiality agreement. (In a way, it's a shame Hager did with his settlement, but you can understand why).

              To my mind, it's all a bit sad that this coalition have, and are making unnecessary work for themselves, and as a result, have to waste so much time playing catch-up

              A couple of things I'm keeping an eye on at the mo' are the growing number of allegations of bullying in the Federales (and there are more elsewhere); Maori 'versus' govt. relations re OT and elsewhere; and the RCEP negotiations.

              Whilst Damian O'C might find he can grovel enough to strike a deal over the "2 cow" farmer in India (if he doesn't get choked to death on the way through pollution – and even that's going to be a hard ask), he might just find that down the track, the 2 cow farmer doesn't want a bar of it after what Shane said, and after how manyfamily members have been royally ripped by a 'lil 'ole NuZull experience

              • Anne

                The problem with the Muldoon era is that he and his mates (not all of them were in parliament btw) used information gathered by Public Service departments to score political points and to conduct vengeful acts against those he/they perceived to be enemies. The fault did not lie with the agencies who gathered the information, but rather the way Muldoon and his lackeys chose to use them.

                We saw similar behaviour by the Key government although as far as I know that government didn't target individuals to the extent the Muldoon govt. did.

                It should not be any surprise to anyone that it is always National governments who behave in this way. It's in their DNA to be deceitful and act in a spiteful manner when it suits them. Example… the Winston Peters court case which started in the High Court today.

    • JanM 4.3

      Yes – thought I was hearing things 😣

  5. tc 5

    Was at the folks place on sunday who insist on listening to red neck radio. Sure enough on comes Rimmer whining about the proposal the govt has to monitor the cyber world over mis-information.

    He stated the govt can't be trusted to do this so and offered no alternatives…my there's a surprise that old self regulated approach that's worked so well.

    Also we're 'legalising' MJ in a referendum next year they said, you could almost hear the knuckles being dragged around the studio floor dog whistling up a storm.

  6. Cinny 6

    I heard today that in Queenstown dealers are now lacing tinnies ($20 of cannabis wrapped in foil) with P!!!! Apparently it's an easy way to introduce and get kids hooked on P.

    Yet another demonstration on why we need to regulate and legalise cannabis.

    • greywarshark 6.1

      Indeed yes.

    • Graeme 6.2

      If a Queenstown tinnie is laced with P that’s probably the safest thing it’s got in it. Last tinnie I saw here was some unidentifiable combustible matter that may have been vegetative, with a strange chemical smell. When it was lit up it smelled like a burning gumboot. I politely excused myself.

      That’s why we need to legalise and regulate cannabis

      • Peter 6.2.1

        Maybe it's also a reason why we also need to think about the sad state of the world and life that causes us to need to keep swallowing, smoking or sucking on something to make it bearable or provide pleasure.

        • Cinny 6.2.1.1

          In the meantime, a P laced tinny for a recovering P addict would be akin to giving an alcoholic a beverage laced with booze and not telling them.

          Cannabis needs to be regulated and legalized.

          Thinking about the state of the world re swallowing, smoking or whatever, won't stop gangs lacing tinnies with P.

        • greywarshark 6.2.1.2

          Peter That's just part of human society – people are always looking for something to make them out of themselves. Too far, too often though.

        • Brigid 6.2.1.3

          I think Homo sapiens have been swallowing, smoking or sucking on something for whatever reason since we dragged ourselves upright.

          It's part of the condition.

          So it would help that the substances we consume could be properly identified.

      • Cinny 6.2.2

        Let the people grow yes

    • joe90 6.3

      Fact is, folk get on the fries because they want to and because the shit is so popular, no one need bother lacing weed to attract new customers.

      In the seventies moral hysteria had dealers lacing buddha sticks with smack and in 2006, TVNZ breathlessly speculated that marijuana was being laced with P, too.

      Those moral outrages were arrant nonsense then and they're arrant nonsense today.

    • Ad 6.4

      Kids should be banned from cannabis full stop.

      Lacing it with P not an argument for regulation.

      • Cinny 6.4.1

        Yes kids should be banned from it.

        Lacing it with P is one of many arguments for regulation, but it needs to be legalised before it can be regulated.

        At least next year we all get a choice. Now that’s a good thing for sure.

        • Ad 6.4.1.1

          How?

          What are your legislative measures?

          From the performance of this government, following the referendum, there's a further term dicking around before we get to the legislating it.

          • arkie 6.4.1.1.1

            Julie Anne Genter wrote the members bill already before parliament. Outlined here:

            Cannabis (including medicinal cannabis)

            • Make cannabis legal for personal use, including possession and cultivation.
            • Introduce a legal age limit for personal use.
            • Assess evidence from overseas jurisdictions with legal cannabis markets to determine the best model for New Zealand.
            • While waiting for broader law change for cannabis, remove penalties for any person with a terminal illness, chronic or debilitating condition to cultivate, possess or use cannabis and/or cannabis products for therapeutic purposes, with the support of a registered medical practitioner.
            • Accelerate the process by which medical cannabis products are licensed for use.
            • Lower barriers for manufacturers to submit new cannabis products for funding applications to PHARMAC.

            https://www.greens.org.nz/page/drug-law-reform-policy

            The Greens wanted to have legislation ready to go following the referendum but you can thank NZ First for the ‘dicking around’.

            • Ad 6.4.1.1.1.1

              No government policy then, and no government bill either.

              The bullet points are just a set of questions without definitions or edges at all.

              We don't even have a medicinal cannabis regulation regime yet.

              Nothing will change next year – in fact there's a good chance the referendum question will be too hard to actually frame as well.

              On this policy area I would rather see both sides of the house agree.

            • Cinny 6.4.1.1.1.2

              Really enjoying your input Arkie, thanks for your valuable insight, it's much appreciated. yes

          • Cinny 6.4.1.1.2

            There's plenty of info, measures, legislation from other countries to draw on.

            No doubt many such questions will be answered next year, including what happens when the people vote yes, timeline etc.

            • Ad 6.4.1.1.2.1

              No doubt? Really?

              No one should seek to find truth in election year.

              My bet is after the Parliamentary debacle of the euthanasia bill, Ardern will 'captain's call' it and dump the whole idea.

              Plenty more useful things to burn your political capital on.

        • arkie 6.4.1.2

          I agree in regards to legalisation and regulation however I highly doubt that the economics of drug dealing allow the lacing of marijuana with a much more expensive substance such as methamphetamine.

          A better argument, in my opinion, is that any regulations, specifically age restrictions, are not possible to implement in a black market.

          Cannabis needs to be regulated and legalised.

          • Cinny 6.4.1.2.1

            however I highly doubt that the economics of drug dealing allow the lacing of marijuana with a much more expensive substance such as methamphetamine.

            Yes, thought the same so I asked and the reply was…. P is cheaper than Pot.

            I asked how.. response was… From a manufacturing/economic/labour intensive angle, weed takes 90 days to grow and maintain (power, water, security) and another two weeks to dry. Compared with hours to make P.

            • arkie 6.4.1.2.1.1

              Except that marijuana is far far less expensive than P in pure monetary terms, that really is the be-all-end-all in these situations, unless we're talking about industrial-scale producers instead of the type of dealer who sells $20 worth a time.

          • Ad 6.4.1.2.2

            Every age restriction generates a black market.

            Where you place that limit is a major instrument in the size of the black market.

            • arkie 6.4.1.2.2.1

              There is a black market for alcohol? This is news to me.

              Any regulation is superior to no regulation.

              • Ad

                You must have missed the consistent raids by Police to snare those serving to minors. You also missed the license renewal hearings in which alcohol sellers get grilled for really bad behaviour. Get out more.

                Bad regulation amounts to just bullying by the state.

                • arkie

                  I was involved in a sting against alcohol retailers in my youth. The actions you are describing are because of a regulated market. They are actions enforcing the regulation.

                  I must have missed when the police raided the tinny houses to make sure they weren’t selling to minors. And when the gangs had to renew their license to sell marijuana and they got grilled for it. You’re coming across a little condescending.

                  Is your argument that current alcohol regulation is bullying by the state?

                  • Ad

                    I'm just waiting for anyone to put up a regulatory framework that will be good for New Zealand.

                    As I noted above, every age limit regulation generates a criminalizing line, which is what such stings achieve.

                    Plenty of people talk about a limit for personal use, but that's already in operation by the Police anyway in who they choose to prosecute.

                    I just can't see what the point of decriminalization is.

                    • arkie

                      I just can't see what the point of decriminalization is.

                      When things are up to police discretion there is an over-enforcement based on racial lines.

                      'Good for New Zealand' appears to be a nebulous concept also. If the framework provide above is flawed in any way, please point it out.

      • Sabine 6.4.2

        currently both are banned and thus adults as much as kids and their dogs don't have access.

        And this – lazing weed with a stronger drug to create addicts is one of the scare stories that might have a bit of truth to it – is a reason, one of many, as to why cannabis should be liberated, legalized, regulated and taxed in the same way as is booze.

  7. greywarshark 7

    Yikes – environmental damage we do while we are looking for our 'precious'

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/environmental-disaster-gold-industry-180949762/

    • tc 7.1

      Gold mining = bird deaths. Tailings dams are full of nasty toxins and you better hope it's structurally sound Te Aroha.

      I heard from a waihi local that the martha mine will be filled with water so the tunnels under the town don't collapse when it's finally all over.

      Gold's like oil, valuable with many takers so the plunder continues.

      • Alice Tectonite 7.1.1

        Depends whether mining ore or alluvial gold. Alluvial gold doesn't need chemicals like cyanide as separation is done on density. No problems with acid leaching either as everything has been well rolled down a river.

        Tailings dams: got to wonder how well engineered they are, been spectacular failures of some for various reasons. Waihi is not that far from active faults & Coromandel has been known to get heavy rain.

  8. greywarshark 8

    Helen Kelly RIP – two years on, what Dylan has to say is fresh and shoulg be bright in our minds. This remaining bit and a full year coming, the pace needs to intensify, the moves be co-ordinated. Another term of Labour Coalition is essential.

    https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/01-11-2017/on-a-new-government-kindness-and-the-unfinished-legacy-of-my-mother-helen-kelly/

  9. greywarshark 9

    The Smithsonian had a great image. What about some of the resorts in the Pacific sponsoring underwater statues that shelter the fish when the coral reefs are dead or suffering from heat? They could charge for trips in little submersibles and ask for donations for ongoing remediation of the reef.

    This image was in a 2014 article – five years later why isn't this top news with massive projects?

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/underwater-museum-180951559/

  10. greywarshark 10

    Climate change and the Gulf stream with maps and coloured pictures. Almost as good as tv. I hadn't seen this explanation so here it is from the Beeb if you didn't see it in 2018.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44875508

  11. joe90 11

    During my youth I was fortunate enough to enjoy all that Motiti offered.

    This decision has made my day.

    Environmentalists and residents of a small island are celebrating a "significant" court win in their bid to protect fish and seabirds.

    Six elderly kuia and kaumātua from Motiti Island took on the combined might of the Crown, local government, powerful iwi and the commercial fishing industry.

    The tiny hapū won, backed by Forest and Bird "groundbreaking" rulings in the Environment and High courts in 2017 that gave local councils powers to regulate fishing to protect native species. But the Government appealed the decision.

    Now the Court of Appeal has ruled regional councils can use the Resource Management Act to control fishing to protect biodiversity.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/117140184/motiti-residents-win-significant-battle-to-protect-the-waters-around-their-island

  12. greywarshark 12

    I'm just coming on interesting stuff – not trying to take over the blog! The weather is good, everyone spring planting?

    Here is a great example of the overbearing attitudes to morality with an inability to decide what is perversion, what counts as prurience, and what is just simple pride of body or privately sexual. This teacher had an image of the privately sexual between her and her male adult friend who was also a teacher at the school; it was broadcast to the swine, and the school rubbished the pearls. Naked bodies are not bad, and we are not in Victorian times, and the uptight, prurient people who would sack a teacher and spoil her career have got dirty minds.

    I think that part of sexual education for teenagers, should include full naked body pictures of both sexes and then discussions on having respect for each other, and what the teenagers need to know and want to know about growing up and the sexualisation seen regularly.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/apr/19/lauren-miranda-teacher-topless-photo-speaks-out

    However there is a woman teacher, or was, who liked to fiddle with her Marlborough teenage pupil's penises. Now that is inappropriate, and has gone before the Courts.

    • Rosemary McDonald 12.1

      Didn't the Python lads do this already???

      I'd link, but phone. Meaning of Life if memory serves…jolly good scene.

  13. Ad 13

    So, what would you do as a fresh Green Mayor with a territory that encloses a mine permit on a massive trove of fossils, and wanting to make your mark?

    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/dunedin-council-wants-buy-foulden-maar

    Well, if you're Mayor Arron Perkins from Dunedin, you slap a Public Works Act notice on its ass.

    Boom, Mr Perkins.

  14. Rosemary McDonald 14

    Didn't the Python lads do this already???

    I'd link, but phone. Meaning of Life if memory serves…jolly good scene.

    • greywarshark 14.1

      And here it is Rosemary – I hadn't seen it before, very instructional. I think that it should be used by all secondary schools that want to turn out well-informed young adults. But as it contains material some will find of objectionable nature and against the mores of society, I place it here at the bottom of yesterday's post. So all the naughty boys and girls who make the effort to seek it out can enjoy it away from the main thrust of political argument that perverts our minds and limits our endeavours to make a better life.

      (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDoQFcQEpOQ

  15. greywarshark 15

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018720667/melbourne-cup-marred-by-footage-of-horrific-horse-killings

    This is sad. And the news piece is good because it fills in the background somewhat so we know what's behind it.

    Over-production of racehorses and dealing with them brutally, tomorrow the wealthy callous will do it to us. Falun Gong and Uighur for instance. How do we get change?

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/apr/11/china-hi-tech-war-on-muslim-minority-xinjiang-uighurs-surveillance-face-recognition

  16. Eco maori 16

    Kia Ora Breakfast.

    Why don't they change the date for guy fawkes to a winter date move if forward 2 months less fire risk and more night hours.

    That's awesome that the Koala Bears that were caught in a Australia Bush fire are being treated for their burns.

    Money needs to be changed to a system that rewards good behaviour and does not reward bad behaviour.

    Innovation to Create Equitable Neighbourhood is a great idea you app will be a great secess.

    Yes it all comes down to the design if one puts enough effort into the design so everything can live in harmony in the Neighbourhood. Papatuanuku has been perfecting her creature design for billions of years.

    What up set me is all the alcohol shops gambling bars all placed around low social economics places I smell something bad going down there.

    Ka kite Ano

  17. Eco maori 17

    Here we are this is a great idea installing a huge Solar farm to save carbon and putea. Congratulations on making the correct move for your business and Aotearoa.

    The country's largest solar farm is to be built at Marsden Pt after Refining NZ decided to go ahead with the $37m project.

    The solar farm will cover 31ha and is intended to reduce the cost of electricity for Refining NZ's operations at the Marsden Pt Refinery.

    The solar farm will supply 26.7 MW – about 10 per cent of the refinery's electricity needs. The project was mooted earlier this year but has just received the approval of its board.

    Ka kite Ano link below.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=12282426

  18. Eco maori 18

    I say the opposite that mass migration in Aotearoa is designed to take Mana away from Tangata Whenua O Aotearoa.

    How well if we only had 4 million people the percentage of Maori and our Pacific Cousin would be 40 % and that is when we can truly have a say on what happens on the political screen in Aotearoa. What I see is what is good for Māori is also good for our Pacific Cousin.

    New Zealand at 5 million

    New Zealand's migrant boom is good news for Māori. It empowers us.

    In April 2003, the year New Zealand’s population hit 4 million, statisticians were predicting the country would hit at 4.8 million people in 2046.

    Ka kite Ano link below.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/05/new-zealands-migrant-boom-is-good-news-for-maori-it-empowers-us

  19. Eco maori 19

    Kia Ora 1 News

    I think that we should keep cash going some people like using cash.

    I thank the 11000 scientists and Sir David Attenborough for letting Te Papatuanuku know we have to act now to minimise and mitigate Global Warming.

    The Papatuanuku rarest Sea Gulls thriving in Christchurch the Black beaked Gull that's cool.

    Ka kite Ano.

  20. Eco maori 20

    Kia Ora Te Ao Maori News.

    Its good that fireworks is being banned from the Taramaki Makaru volcano cones.

    I tau toko tangata whenua advocateing a ban on driving on the beach in Taramaki Makaru the vehicle are making a mess of our shellfish living in that environment.

    I great to see heaps of Te tamariki joining Te Kapa Haka roopu.

    Ka kite Ano.

  21. Eco maori 21

    Nukutaimemeha is the WAKA my Tupuna sailed to Aotearoa on.

  22. Eco maori 22

    Kia Ora Breakfast.

    I say $26 million should have been spent on rooftop solar subsidies at 20 % that would could draw in $130 million private putea total investment in solar $156 million. We don’t need a satellite to tell us what we already know their is to much carbon being pumped into our atmosphere.

    Ka kite Ano

  23. Eco maori 23

    The way I see it national is the cause of these social security problems rents are spiking. Who kept making those statements there is know housing shortage who also flooded Aotearoa with new people. The Coalition government has made live much easier for the lower class look at what happen to Winz under a national government national prioritie is to line there own pockets.

    Look a the garden lady do you think it's a coincidence that she is stepping down with what Winston is occupied with at the minute I think not.

    Ka kite Ano

  24. Eco maori 24

    The biggest gang in New Zealand is cheating again they are sending the council down to stuff with me

  25. Eco maori 25

    The climate change deniers have bagged Solar and Wind power for decades now we can see that the combination of solar wind and batteries can be used as base load power. We have some back seats warmers who will not do the correct thing and back Aotearoa new climate laws I bet they will vote no.

    Wind turbines at Kennedy Energy Park in Queensland.

    The answer to the renewable energy industry’s biggest challenge is emerging in the Australian outback.

    Early next year, one of the first power projects that combine solar and wind generation with battery storage is planning to start up in northern Queensland state. The Kennedy Energy Park, just outside the sleepy town of Hughendon, will combine 43 megawatts of wind and 20 megawatts of solar with a 2-megawatt Tesla Inc. lithium-ion battery

    Ka kite Ano link below.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-11-05/answer-to-green-power-s-top-problem-emerges-from-sleepy-outback

  26. Eco maori 26

    Kia Ora 1 News.

    That's good that Oranga tamariki is apologising to that young Wahine for their big mistakes.

    Condolences to the people who died in the Remarkable in Queens Town family.

    That's was shocking the family being shot by the New Mexico border.

    That's sad that the study on Orcas in Antarctica has been cancelled. Why did the Canterbury University cancel it. A.

    The Bear in the dumpster is qute.

    Ka kite Ano

  27. Eco maori 27

    Kia Ora Te Ao Maori News.

    How do you end up with a person running a organisation that clearly knows nothing about the cultures of the people they have to interact with the most.

    Its a good start to our journey to a zero-carbon future for our Mokopuna.

    Mr Titi its OK for tangata whenua who are doing great in this system to cast judgement but your views are biest if only you could see what Eco Maori see you would soon change your mind.

    Hine sue get people to donate start a give a little page. I think a bit of cheating has gone down.

    That's awesome to see 3 Wahine Maori becoming lawyers.

    Ka kite Ano.

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