Open Mike 05/10/2016

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  1. dv 1

    I am confused.
    Key says hard to measure count the kids in poverty,
    the moe can measure kids at risk for school funding!!!!

    PS well done LPent

  2. ianmac 2

    Yes. Thanks Lyn. Absence makes the heart grow fonder- or something. 🙂

  3. pat 3

    National government strategy on CC resembles its plan on the Auckland housing crisis….a lot of spin and no action….”its complicated”

  4. Richard Rawshark 4

    Heralds apparently spent some money on a proper opinion writer. One who writes an article in the style I quite like, sarcasm that is poignant and makes you think a little.

    yep I like their new opinion writer, should add a little required balance that nanny had been so lacking for so long if she stays on this sort of mid ground tune.

    • Puckish Rogue 4.1

      Shes just another ranty hypocrite in my opinion but if you like her writing then its all good

    • Cinny 4.2

      Oh dang, what a read, loved it. Thanks so much for posting the link. Looking forward to reading more from her in the future.

      This part had me in stitches…

      “Our own Prime Minister is pretty much off his rocker but, hey, let’s not labour the point. Unless, it’s all Labour’s fault. Which it probably is. It’s just got to be their fault he got in that cage and bent down and picked up the soap on command. Or that he’s overseen the new and unprecedented era of wadeable versus swimmable rivers. Or that children living in poverty are way harder to count than rodents. Even if they don’t move as fast. Even when you offer them $5000.”

    • Draco T Bastard 4.3

      But there’s another kind of covert madness at work. A potentially apocalyptic one.

      It’s not really covert. We’ve just been conditioned to accept it, to worship those who are it and to chase being it…

      …and that’s being rich.

      We cannot afford rich people and chasing being ever richer is destroying society and the environment around us.

    • alwyn 4.4

      Did they really have to put her photo at the head of the article?
      I clicked on your link and the first thing I found was a photo that looked just like Donald Trump! Same eyes and hair tone.
      Poor thing. She deserves sympathy.
      Quite put me off my breakfast.

      • Draco T Bastard 4.4.1

        Ah, a typical nasty RWNJ.

        Doesn’t like what the person said and so attacks her looks.

        Tell me, would have done that if the author had been a male?

        • alwyn

          I made no comment at all about what I thought of the article.

          Your imagination is therefore running completely out of control when you claim “Doesn’t like what the person said and so attacks her looks”
          I neither said that I didn’t like what she said and I didn’t “attack” her. I sympathised with her.

          And yes, if any other journalist’s photo reminded me so strongly of Trump I would have sympathised with them too.

          Actually I have previously commented that one of the Wellington City Council candidates has a photo on his billboards that appears to have been copied from the John Key photo from the last election. I don’t know whether Simon Woolf is going to gain or lose from the resemblance.

          • Draco T Bastard

            I neither said that I didn’t like what she said and I didn’t “attack” her. I sympathised with her.

            Why would you need to sympathise with how people look?
            The answer is that you don’t, don’t even have to bring it up, and thus it was an attack on her and what she wrote and not sympathy.

            • Puckish Rogue

              I actually agree on this, you see this all the time (on the left and right) where people feel free to point out other people physical attributes

              Its not right, its not helpful and its just plain wrong

            • alwyn

              When I saw her photo I was reminded of Donald Trump.
              That man is so appalling that it would put anyone of their breakfast.
              Do you seriously expect me to think kind thought about “The Donald” rather than be totally horrified by the man?

      • Puckish Rogue 4.4.2

        Not cool bro, not cool at all.

        Can we all please stop making reference to what people look like and focus on what they say/do instead

      • Reality 4.4.3

        Oh Alwyn – so presumably when you look in the mirror there is a face looking back at you that is stunningly attractive, with a great hair style, wearing smart attire. So you have therefore given yourself the right to judge someone’s appearance who does not match your gorgeousness. How shallow.

        I thought the column was brilliant and so refreshingly clever.

        • alwyn

          “looking back at you that is stunningly attractive, with a great hair style, wearing smart attire”.
          Well no. I see someone who is getting distinctly old, wearing old clothes and looking like anyone else of my age.
          The only thing I can claim is that I still have my hair, although it is now totally white.

          I didn’t even say she was not gorgeous, did I? I merely commented that she reminded me very strongly of Donald Trump. Could it be that you don’t approve of The Donald’s looks? How judgemental of you.

          Oh well, I assume in the future no one on this site will describe Cameron Slater as being fat and everyone will ignore Gerry Brownlie’s excessive weight.

          • framu

            “I didn’t even say she was not gorgeous, did I?”

            you definatelky implied it.

            Just stop digging the hole and admit that it was a low blow

    • TheExtremist 4.5

      Too ranty for me – kinda like Bomber. Much rant with little substance.

      “Our own Prime Minister is pretty much off his rocker but, hey, let’s not labour the point. Unless, it’s all Labour’s fault.”

      It should be ” let’s not belabour the point”. Grinds me gears!

      • Richard Rawshark 4.5.1

        ahhh but using the word labour instead of belabour ie sarcasm was deliberate do you not think?

        • TheExtremist

          Possibly, but could still have worked spelled correctly.

          As a former journo and comms manager I am a self-confessed grammar Nazi

  5. Morrissey 5

    Jesse Mulligan: “Sometimes when I read this stuff I get
    the sense that Russia are L-L-L-LOOKIN’ for trouble…”

    RNZ National, Tuesday 4 October 2016, 4:47 p.m.
    Jesse Mulligan, James Nokise, Chris Wikaira

    Incredibly, RNZ’s sorry light chat show The Panel just keeps getting worse. I’m sorry to have to say that in his occasional hosting stints, comedian Jesse Mulligan has shown himself to be as ill-informed and smug as the regular host Jim Mora. The following farcical exchange was horrible to listen to, not only because of Mulligan’s abysmal ignorance—it’s obvious he has read virtually no “stuff” on Syria—but also because of Professor Gillespie’s mealy-mouthed performance. It seems he’s more concerned with avoiding a browbeating from his notorious right wing Waikato colleagues Ron Smith and Dov Bing than he is with informing the audience. The end effect of five minutes of Al Gillespie is similar to sitting through five minutes of a Donal Trump speech—you feel you’ve wasted your time, and you actually feel stupider at the end of it…..

    JESSE MULLIGAN: So let’s move on as well, and we’ll go international now, with a look at the world with Al Gillespie. The United States has suspended Syrian ceasefire talks with Russia, and they made the call after frustrations with Moscow and its ability to live up to a ceasefire agreement. That announcement comes two weeks after the most recent attempt at a ceasefire fell apart, when a humanitarian aid convoy trying to reach besieged areas of rebel-held Aleppo was destroyed by an air strike. Al Gillespie of the University of Waikato joins us now. Al, hullo there, how ARE you today?

    PROFESSOR AL GILLESPIE: Hey Jessie, I’m well. Thank you.

    JESSE MULLIGAN: [extended intake of breath to convey how serious he is] Who do we believe: United States or Russia?

    PROFESSOR AL GILLESPIE: Well, there’s two sides to it. The Americans said they’ll only go back into the talks if the Russians stop bombing Aleppo, and the Russians say they can only stop bombing Aleppo if the Americans distinguish between the moderate rebels and Al Qaeda, which is a legitimate target.

    JESSE MULLIGAN: Aaaaand is your understanding that the Russians have a POINT in that respect or do the United States deny it?

    PROFESSOR AL GILLESPIE: I, uh, I, …[baffled world-weary sigh]… there’s no-o-o-o-o black and white any more in, in Syria, especially in Aleppo. And often the sides, some of those that are moderate and not meant to be targeted, blend with the ILLEGITIMATE, more religious extremists which CAN be targeted. It’s pretty hard to get a clear dividing line.

    JESSE MULLIGAN: How bad news IS this, that talks have broken down between the U.S. and Russia?

    PROFESSOR AL GILLESPIE: It’s very bad, I mean we can’t even get a ceasefire at the moment, so we can’t, you need a ceasefire before you can start talking about a peace plan. We need to be thinking that this conflict could go on for many years from here.

    JESSE MULLIGAN: Why do ceasefires break down, Al, if uh, if no one enjoys war? [snickers nervously]

    PROFESSOR AL GILLESPIE: There’s no trust on the ground. No one believes that it’s safe to bring in aid, water, or food, and so unless you can get the most basic modicum of trust, you can’t build up.

    JESSE MULLIGAN: So how do you CREATE it?

    PROFESSOR AL GILLESPIE: You get the teams, well you need two things. One, people have to get tired of fighting, and neither side has to believe that they can WIN. At the moment, there’s so much money, men, and ammunition going into the fight, both sides believe that they still have the upper hand. And then you need to have confidence-building measures, and right now they can’t even achieve THAT.

    JESSE MULLIGAN: [speaking very slowly, to convey thoughtfulness] Sometimes when I read this stuff I get the sense that Russia are L-L-L-LOOKIN’ for trouble, are L-L-L-LOOKIN’ to create tension with the U.S. Is that fair?

    ….Long pause….

    PROFESSOR AL GILLESPIE: [slowly, deliberately, to convey deep thinking] Ahhhhhmmm, partly, partly not. I mean, Russia’s there by a treaty it had with Syria from the early 1970s, a legitimate treaty for a defensive alliance, and Assad is still to a degree in power, so Russia’s doing what it was bound to do by treaty. The problem is, that at some point, as long as you’re propping up these sides the war will continue and you may have to, everyone just back out and see what the actual outcome is.

    ….Long pause…

    JESSE MULLIGAN: Meanwhile, there’s this OTHER story around today, that Russia have walked away from the protocol on weapons-grade plutonium control. Can you give us a bit of background to that, Al?

    PROFESSOR AL GILLESPIE: Certainly. So the nuclear arms treaty’s like a collection of documents which regulate nuclear weapons. One of the protocols was about the reduction of plutonium, surplus plutonium, so it would not be diverted to create more nuclear warheads. The Russians have suspended their talks in this protocol exactly the same day as the Americans suspended their talks about the ceasefire in Syria. It’s a blow to nuclear arms control, it’s not MASSIVE, but it’s certainly starting to wobble the architecture.

    …Long pause…

    JESSE MULLIGAN: And once AGA-A-AIN, if we look at both parties, do both parties have some culpability here, or is it the Russians MAKING TROUBLE?

    PROFESSOR AL GILLESPIE: U-u-u-u-u-ummm, both parties have some —the Russians are saying that they can’t trust the Americans with the technology that they’re using to turn their plutonium into a safe form of nuclear material, and the Americans are saying that if they work together they can come to a compromise. So there’s good and bad on both sides.

    JESSE MULLIGAN: Mmmm-kay. Finally today, the Colombian peace deal veto. You better give us some background to this as well, Al, it’ll be the first time a lot of people have HEARD about this….

    …ad nauseam…

    Anyone wishing to, unlike Jesse Mulligan, do some serious study of what is happening in Syria, should bypass the likes of Al Gillespie and read or listen to someone who knows what he’s talking about. There is no one better on this than Noam Chomsky….

    • Adrian Thornton 5.1

      Typical of the relentless dumbing down of National radio, it drives me fucking crazy.
      I have emailed 9-noon a number of times the about pointlessness of having that private prison loving centrist Mike Williams on the voices from the right and left on Mondays, what a complete waste of time, he more often than not ends up agreeing tacitly with Hooten’s position, and why wouldn’t he, they are basically two sides of the same coin….don’t get me started.

      • Morrissey 5.1.1

        Williams doesn’t “tacitly” agree with Hooton, Adrian, he makes a point of saying “I agree with Matthew” several times in every show, almost as often as he chortles along with Hooton whenever a politician like Jeremy Corbyn is mentioned.

        Maybe he learned to ingratiate himself with superior personalities when he was a high school classmate of Paul Holmes.

        • Adrian Thornton

          I know I was trying to be diplomatic, I have also replied to quite a few of Williams opinion pieces in the Hawks Bay today, however our local newspaper isn’t that interested in community conversation so only publish comments spasmodically.
          I can’t understand RNZ’s logic of not actually having a hard hitting left intellectual on the show to challenge Hooton, and spark real debate. Surely even from their own rating perspective that must make sense?

          • Morrissey

            They have occasionally put decent opponents up against Hooton, much to his evident discomfort. Laila Harré never let him get away with anything, and Andrew Campbell stymied him regularly.

            I’m sure the RNZ National management had a role in getting rid of those difficult people and replacing them with patsies like Williams.

            Ratings aren’t important: conformity is all that matters.

      • Adrian 5.1.2

        Thanks Adrian for sorting out thre ” 2 Adrians ” thing.

    • Wensleydale 5.2

      JESSE MULLIGAN: Why do ceasefires break down, Al, if uh, if no one enjoys war? [snickers nervously]

      That alone should get him thrown out of a window. I mean, does he come to work drunk or something?

  6. Colonial Viper 6

    Thanks for getting the site back up and running, lprent.

    • Draco T Bastard 6.1


    • alwyn 6.2

      I think it was a very opportune outage. It will have saved red faces all round.
      The more devoted Andrew-philes would have been in a terrible dilemma if they had been able to comment yesterday morning.
      After listening to Little’s repeated promises on Morning Report to pay all parents a $60/week benefit for the first year of a babies life there would have been paens of praise about what great leadership Labour were offering and that we now saw what a wonderful man Little was.
      Then, about four hours later they would be stuck with having to explain how he had never said any such thing and that he was being grossly misinterpreted.
      Even the Herald seems to have decided he had stuffed up again.
      Only four hours from cock of the walk to a feather duster.

      I must admit I was quite surprised how much I missed the presence of this site though. I think I need to take a holiday. Thanks for fixing my fix.

      • Bearded Git 6.2.1

        Little’s interview was way better than John Key’s pathetic effort. Little said it would take 2 terms-6 years- to make a real difference to child poverty, which is about right, and floated the old Labour $60 policy as one way of alleviating this. So at least he committed Labour to do something about this scandalous situation-nobody announces actual policies this far out.

        Did we see a massive article in the Herald critisising Key’s pathetic do-nothing, the market will sort it out, what about the rodents, interview response? No.

        p.s Great to have TS back!

        • Colonial Viper

          ittle’s interview was way better than John Key’s pathetic effort. Little said it would take 2 terms-6 years- to make a real difference to child poverty, which is about right

          Meanwhile, that poverty permanently damages the life prospects of 300,000-400,000 children, while the six figure types in Wellington fret around in the Koru Club.

          How long does it really take to raise benefits by $30/week and make the first $5,000 earned in wages/salary exempt from income tax and WINZ calculations?

          • Draco T Bastard

            How long does it really take to raise benefits by $30/week and make the first $5,000 earned in wages/salary exempt from income tax and WINZ calculations?

            And how long would it take for the capitalists to raise prices so that they could grab all the extra money for themselves thus ensuring that it would make no difference for the poor?

      • Chuck 6.2.2

        Yep Andrew Little reversed away faster from his earlier comments than a Italian tank driver in WW2 from the front line.

        Little clarified the “policy” needs more work, as in who / how they were going to pay for it.

        • Puckish Rogue

          No no you don’t understand, John Key tells lies, whereas Andrew Little is the victim of the MSM reporting what he says

          • reason

            The two most interesting things about John key are….

            His bailout and the amount of money he took from u.s.a pension funds …

            2008: 2 Interests (such as shares and bonds)in companies and business entities
            Little Nell – property investment
            MerrillLynch – investment banking
            JacksonMining – gold mining ……………………

            And after then the bailout ………….

            2009: 2 Interests (such as shares and bonds) in companies and business entities
            Little Nell – property investment
            Bank of America – banking
            Jackson Mining – gold mining

            The other interesting thing is how the media, wikipedia and his biography do not mention his good fortune and millions in charity ……..

            The truth looks like a millionare taking millions in charity from ordinary citizens for his worthless investment in ponzi merrill lynch ( merrills share price had been climbing rapidly before imploding )

            Key seems to support fraud both overseas and here in NZ ……….. “” a contentious exemption of professional services firms – mostly lawyers, accountants and real estate agents – from being covered by anti-money laundering laws passed in 2009.”

        • halfcrown

          “Yep Andrew Little reversed away faster from his earlier comments than an Italian tank driver in WW2 from the front line.”

          I find that comment in very bad taste,

          Have you heard or read anything about the Italian Frogman during the second would war? They would be some of the bravest people in the conflict

          • Gabby

            The Italian frogmen had the sense to stay well away from tanks. Well, not oxygen tanks. Or water tanks probably.

    • Puckish Rogue 6.3

      5 eyes just letting everyone know they’re lurking in the shadows and can strike at any time…

    • Infused 6.4

      Time to stop hosting it in his sex dungeon and put it on something like aws, hell even digital ocean. Isn’t The Standard a charity?

    • Chooky 6.5

      +100%…but why do I always have to repeat my name and mail in the box every time?

    • Richard Rawshark 7.1

      Bit like English’s budgets then?

      Or Murray McCully’s Saudi deal

      Or the CHCH convention centre


      • Puckish Rogue 7.1.1

        I think the difference is though that KDC was attempting to help National lose the election (like it seems Julian Assange is with Hilary Clinton) whereas National has been trying to win elections

        On that score Assange seems to be as successful as KDC

        • Richard Rawshark

          Without media traction or faux outrage, no one gave a shit.

          ..,and just because the government and media didn’t take it on, doesn’t mean what they said wasn’t true.

          • Puckish Rogue

            What did KDC have? Some dodgy email that couldn’t be proven, wow

            • Draco T Bastard

              Ah, no, he had Edward Snowden and all of his facts to back up what he said and a couple of award winning journalists as well.

              • Puckish Rogue

                Ah yes “facts” (see what I did there?) and all those “facts”, all the money, all the hype and all the journalists and yet it was a big fat nothing

                The truth will out and KDC got outed

              • james

                Really – so what facts did he have to back up that fake email again?

    • Chooky 7.2

      diddums…I know it was a disappointment to you but Julian is not going away..despite Hillary’s drone threat

      ‘Assange: WikiLeaks will publish all US election docs by Nov. 8’

      • Puckish Rogue 7.2.1

        I’d actually prefer Trump over Clinton to win the presidency by the way

        I think Clinton has more knowledge of how to cause damage then Trump does

        I’m more ticked off that nothing was released, like KDCs moment. I want to see…something but all its been is one big let down

        “We’ve got something and we’re going to show it, not today but soon”

        and it never happens

      • TheExtremist 7.2.2

        Hillary’s drone threat?

        You mean that completely unsourced and unverifiable claim from a single “news” source? The Clinton conspiracies get wilder by the day.
        I wouldn’t be surprised if pretty soon someone claims she used HAARP to make Chemtrails rain GMO gluten seeds on Haiti.

        Seriously, Clinton as a poor choice for president is obvious, there is no need to make shit up when her record speaks for itself.

        • marty mars

          Clinton has caused all the bad shit that has happened over the last THIRTY, I say again, THIRTY years. From fukashima, plastic gryes in the ocean, earthquakes, mountineers not making it, famines, reruns of pissweak UK shit series, all the way to mass murderers, drinking games that arent really games, the middle east and the west and east east too, racial and sexual intolerance, the mullet haircut putin having inappropriate liasons with that tiger. The list – endlist ///sarc

          Wake up Clinton is everwhere – check out the video and change Elvis to Clinton –

        • Colonial Viper

          Not sure about Clinton wanting to drone Assange – but given that Assange is an enemy of the US security state that would seem likely.

          Also you seem to have forgotten that Sec State Clinton was a leading figure in the Obama Administration’s record breaking use of illegal/extra-judicial drone assassinations – under Obama the US droned far more people than GW did.

    • joe90 7.3

      We wus trolled. (video inside)

      Alex Jones went absolutely insane over Wikileaks, and it was REALLY fun to watch. (by @MattBinder)— CAFE (@cafedotcom) October 4, 2016

  7. Cinny 8

    Is anyone else on the unpublished electoral roll?

    The Tasman District Council are making it very difficult for me to cast a special vote. Apparently I have to drive to their HQ in Richmond (30mins on the open road) and cannot cast a special vote from their service centre in Motueka. I was wonder if any whom live over the hill in Golden Bay on the unpublished roll, and if they have to go all the way to Richmond to vote (an hour and a half drive on the open road), because they aren’t allowed to cast their special vote from the Golden Bay service centre, just like I’m experiencing.

    To bad if people on the unpublished roll can’t get to Richmond to cast their special vote.

    Are other councils making it difficult for those on the unpublished roll? I didn’t have this problem with the general election.

    And they wonder why voter turn out is low.

    • james 8.1

      Did you apply to the local electorial officer at the local council to be issued with a special declaration vote?

  8. rhinocrates 10

    On the crisis of relevance for the social-democratic beige left parties:

    Essentially, if they just try to be fluffy tories, real tories do a better job of being tories and those they’ve abandoned for their Pt Chevalier dinner parties look to the far right or radical left. In order to keep either out of office, they find themselves directly complicit with the tories as junior partners. The problem for the radical left is that its still too fragmented and incoherent to achieve much effect in parliaments and finds itself blocked.

    • Olwyn 10.1

      The problem for the radical left is that its still too fragmented and incoherent to achieve much effect in parliaments and finds itself blocked.

      The deeper problem is that the right now have all the levers. The right, having persuaded populations that they would all end up as shareholders, and that unemployment etc. were just temporary pains, changed tack as soon as they had what they wanted (all the levers). This left the centre left parties, who had geared themselves toward making sure the shareholder society would be inclusive, with nowhere to go. One of two things has to happen. Either the right themselves will start to reconfigure their aims, fearing that being top dog in a fractured, disabled society makes one vulnerable to worse threats than mere trade unions, or the left will build up the numbers to give them a run for their money even without the levers. While the lack of levers keeps the left fragmented, things have come a long way from movements like “occupy” to Sanders, Corbyn, Podemos, etc.

  9. Bearded Git 11

    Real Clear Politics has Clinton with a poll lead of 3.8% and a 322-216 lead on the state by state electoral vote map. Not quite a real clear lead but the trend is good.

    • Colonial Viper 11.1

      A passing blip 🙂

      • Chooky 11.1.1

        hope so…hope Clinton goes down the gurgler

        • Chooky

          ‘Hacked Clinton Foundation files show ‘pay to play’, bank ties’

          “Documents reportedly hacked from the Clinton Foundation servers have identified major Democratic donors and troubling ties between TARP aid given to banks and their political contributions. One folder is outright labeled “Pay to Play.”

          A Hacker calling himself “Guccifer 2.0,” who claimed responsibility for previous breaches of the Democratic National Committee and the congressional Democrats, published the documents on Tuesday afternoon ahead of the vice-presidential debates.

          “I hacked the Clinton Foundation server and downloaded hundreds of thousands of docs and donors’ databases,” the hacker wrote on his blog. “Clinton and her staff don’t even bother about the information security.”

          The Clinton Foundation has denied the hack, with president Donna Shalala saying that “none of the files or folders shown are ours.”…

      • Lanthanide 11.1.2

        Taken a long time for it to pass…

  10. Penny Bright 12

    Your future Auckland ‘Peoples’ Mayor – in action!


    Scroll through to 8 minutes for my presentation to the Auckland Council Governing Body Meeting of 24 February 2016.

    This is where I outline why I think Auckland Council failed to follow lawful due process regarding the ‘out of scope evidence’ provided to the Independent Hearings Panel, and I defended the lawful rights of citizens from ‘the leafy suburbs’.

    (This is one of the 27 Auckland Council Governing Body meetings to which I have presented since 1 November 2010).

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

    2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.

    • Chooky 12.1

      Penny…I wish I was in Auckland so I could vote for you!…you would be a brilliant democratic colourful people’s Mayor!

      • Chooky 12.1.1

        All chookys of Auckland unite to support Penny for Mayor!

        …she would be much better than any of the boys …in the past

        …she would sort Auckland out with style and flair and democracy

    • james 12.2


      Ill bet you your outstanding rates bill that you are not our next Mayor.

    • Richard Rawshark 12.3

      Penny, I only have a couple of words


      lolz, never seen anything so out there in my entire life as that video of the live university debate.

      after that, no one could possible ever take local elections seriously again.

    • Sacha 12.4

      “I defended the lawful rights of citizens from ‘the leafy suburbs”

      Thank goodness someone is defending our coastal nimbys from their future. Imagine if they had to rely on their own meagre resources to hold back change. Will someone think of the lawyers?

  11. Tony Veitch (not the partner-bashing 3rd rate broadcaster 13

    Clinton vs Trump . . . again!

    Just watched Max Keiser – at about 10 minutes in, an interview with David Stockman, Ronald Regan’s budget advisor.

    A couple of quotes:

    “[Trump] hasn’t spent 30 years in the system, he hasn’t memorised the playbook, he’s not part of the status quo and therefore he is the disrupter that we need in the environment that we’re in today,”

    “[Hillary] talked about a basket of deplorables, I think you really need to turn the tables, the basket of deplorables are the policies that she’s been associated with and her generation of leaders ever since the 1980s.”

    An intersting interview.

  12. The Chairman 14

    So Key asserted the Government is committed to reducing the number of children in poverty (albeit without setting targets).

    Therefore, if National are genuinely committed, will they be extending WFF to all low income children (as called for by Professor Susan St John)?

    Will they adjust WFF for past inflation and index it annually to wages?

    While Labour are committed to setting targets, unfortunately they’ve yet to commit to the WFF measures mentioned above. Therefore, we can’t expect Labour to apply political pressure on this one just yet (and perhaps not at all).

    It’s a shame Labour haven’t got their policy together yet, it results in a weaker opposition.

  13. xanthe 15

    Wikileaks 10 year anniversary press conference with assange and others, Somewhat long winded but I learned some new stuff. Well worth it

    • joe90 15.1

      I learned some new stuff

      Really?… tell…

      • xanthe 15.1.1

        watch and learn 🙂

        • joe90

          I watched a fund raiser, was harangued about a new book and eventually trolled by an alleged rapist who revealed nothing new about Clinton, and he seemed to throw cold water on the notion that any revelations he had in store would destroy Clinton’s campaign.


  14. The Chairman 16

    Trump (the so-called anti-establishment presidential candidate) wants to slash the corporate tax rate by over 50% with no strings attached.

    The reasoning for this is he hopes to attract businesses back to the States to help boost employment and stimulate the economy.

    Unfortunately, Trump made no mention of stipulating criteria (living wage, employment expectations, etc) companies would have to meet to receive the tax cuts while ensuring his objectives are met.

    Wonder how his anti-establishment supporters feel about that one?

  15. Bill 17

    fyi Lynn.

    Could only sign into the back end of the site. Every time I hit the front end, it appeared I was automatically signed out. Then I submitted a comment and I was suddenly signed in again. Sort of.

    Still can’t access private posts on the front end. Can access them on the back end, but not to comment .

    And depending on how I navigate around the front end, I appear to be variously signed out or signed in.

    windows 7 chrome

    • Colonial Viper 17.1

      I’ve been hitting the “Exceeded the maximum global requests per minute for crawlers or humans” locked out warning all day.

    • Anne 17.2

      Same here. If I’m allowed access to TS , comments also deleted. Except (hopefully) this one which I’ve sent via Firefox rather than google chrome.

      • Manuka AOR 17.2.1

        I couldn’t access the site for a few days – till today. See if this goes through..

  16. Manuka AOR 18

    I was locked out so changed browser – This message:

    Your access to this site has been limited

    Your access to this service has been temporarily limited. Please try again in a few minutes. (HTTP response code 503)

    Reason: Exceeded the maximum global requests per minute for crawlers or humans.

    Important note for site admins: If you are the administrator of this website note that your access has been limited because you broke one of the Wordfence firewall rules. The reason your access was limited is: “Exceeded the maximum global requests per minute for crawlers or humans.”.

    If this is a false positive, meaning that your access to your own site has been limited incorrectly, then you will need to regain access to your site, go to the Wordfence “options” page, go to the section for Rate Limiting Rules and disable the rule that caused you to be blocked. For example, if you were blocked because it was detected that you are a fake Google crawler, then disable the rule that blocks fake google crawlers. Or if you were blocked because you were accessing your site too quickly, then increase the number of accesses allowed per minute.

    If you’re still having trouble, then simply disable the Wordfence firewall and you will still benefit from the other security features that Wordfence provides.

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    [lprent: That usually happens when you have too many calls to the site within too short a timeframe. It is there to prevent the site getting overwhelmed by bots masquerading as human. But I’ve been playing with the cache, and didn’t really have time to fine tune it last night. I’ll have a look at it after I get home and make some dinner. ]

    • Manuka AOR 18.1

      There was also a link to click and a box to put your email address – these are not showing on the c/p

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    The disclosure bill, which is now under review by select committee, has the singular feature that it arguably does not increase disclosure.

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    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones will attend the official opening of two highly anticipated tourism projects on the West Coast today – Pike29 Memorial Track, dedicated to the memory of the Pike River miners, and Pounamu Pathway. “The Pike29 Memorial Track is a way to remember and honour the men ...
    4 days ago
  • Independent ferry service advisory group in place
    Appointments to the Ministerial Advisory Group tasked with providing independent advice and assurance on the future of KiwiRail’s inter-island ferry service have been made, State Owned Enterprises Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “It’s important for New Zealand that KiwiRail is focused on ensuring safe, resilient, and reliable ferry services over the ...
    5 days ago
  • Joint statement from the Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada, and New Zealand
    The Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on reports of Israel’s planned military operation in Rafah. We are gravely concerned by indications that Israel is planning a ground offensive into Rafah.   A military operation into Rafah would be catastrophic. About 1.5 million Palestinians ...
    5 days ago
  • Govt will deliver on expanded breast screening
    The coalition Government has made the first steps in delivering on its promise to  extend free breast screening to women aged 70-74, Health Minister Shane Reti says. “As part of the 100 day plan, the Government has now met with officials and discussed what is needed in order for the ...
    5 days ago
  • Government announces woolshed roadshows in support of sheep farmers
    The Government celebrates National Lamb Day (15 February 24) and congratulates sheep farmers on the high-quality products they continue to produce. Agriculture Minister McClay hosted bipartisan celebrations of National Lamb Day with industry representatives at Parliament this week to mark the anniversary of the first frozen lamb exports that left ...
    5 days ago
  • Speech: Address to the NZ Economics Forum
    It’s great to be back at the New Zealand Economics Forum. I would like to acknowledge everyone here today for your expertise and contribution, especially the Pro Vice-Chancellor, Head of the Waikato Management School, economists, students and experts alike. A year has passed since I was last before you, and ...
    5 days ago
  • Government tackling high construction costs
    The Government is focused on reducing sky-high construction costs to make it more affordable to build a home, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says.  Stats NZ data shows the cost of building a house has increased by 41 per cent since 2019, making housing even more unaffordable for Kiwi ...
    5 days ago
  • Labour’s Three Waters legislation repealed
    The Coalition Government’s legislative plan to address longstanding issues with local water infrastructure and service delivery took an important step today, with the repeal of Labour’s divisive and unpopular Three Waters legislation, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says. “Repealing this legislation is a necessary first step in implementing our Local ...
    6 days ago
  • Cost of living support for beneficiary households
    The Coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to ease the cost-of-living by increasing main benefit rates in line with inflation and ensuring the Minimum Family Tax Credit threshold remains aligned with this change, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. The Social Security (Benefits Adjustment) and Income Tax ...
    6 days ago
  • Government announces agriculture delegations to better support Primary sector
    The coalition Government has announced ministerial delegations to support key areas across the Primary sector to deliver for New Zealand’s food and fibre sector, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced today. “I will be supported in my roles as Minister of Agriculture, Trade, Forestry and Hunting and Fishing, by three Associate ...
    1 week ago
  • Waikato MoU reinforces Govt’s commitment to increase NZ doctors
    The Government has taken an important step forward in addressing a critical shortage of New Zealand-trained doctors, with today’s signing of a Memorandum of Understanding for a third medical school, Minister of Health Dr Shane Reti has announced.  “Today’s signing by the Ministry of Health and the University of Waikato ...
    1 week ago
  • Speech – Lunar New Year 2024
    Annyeonghaseyo, greetings and welcome all. It is my pleasure as the Minister for Ethnic Communities to welcome you to the first Lunar New Year Event in Parliament. Thank you to our emcees for greeting us in the different languages that represent the many cultures that celebrate the Lunar New Year. ...
    1 week ago
  • More funding to Hawke’s Bay and Tairāwhiti
    Urgent work to clean-up cyclone-affected regions will continue, thanks to a $63 million boost from the Government for sediment and debris removal in Hawke’s Bay and Tairāwhiti.                                                                                                   The funding will help local councils continue urgent work removing and disposing of sediment and debris left from Cyclone Gabrielle.   “This additional ...
    1 week ago
  • Budget will be delivered on 30 May
    Plans to deliver tax relief to hard-working New Zealanders, rebuild business confidence and restore the Crown’s finances to order will be unveiled on 30 May, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The plans will be announced in the Budget which is currently being developed by Ministers.  “The last government’s mismanagement of ...
    1 week ago
  • Government advances Local Water Done Well
    The Coalition Government is continuing work to restore council ownership and control of water assets by repealing Three Waters and appointing a Technical Advisory Group to provide expert advice on the implementation of Local Water Done Well, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says. “The Government will pass a bill to ...
    1 week ago
  • New diplomatic appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced five new diplomatic appointments.  "Strong and effective diplomacy to protect and advance our interests in the world is needed now more than ever," Mr Peters says.  “We are delighted to appoint senior diplomats from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade to these ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Speech to the Committee for Auckland
    It is great to be here today at this event as Minister for Auckland and Minister ofTransport. Let me start by acknowledging each one of you and thanking the Committee forAuckland for hosting this event and inviting me to speak here today. The Committee for Auckland has been a symbol ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Getting Transport Back on Track in Auckland
    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has today confirmed his high-level transport priorities for Auckland, in the lead up to releasing the draft Government Policy Statement on Land Transport. “Our economic growth and productivity are underpinned by a transport network that enables people and freight to move around safely and efficiently. At ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Government to axe Auckland Regional Fuel Tax
    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has confirmed that the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax will end on 30 June 2024. “Today, I can confirm that the Government has agreed to remove the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax in line with our coalition commitments, and legislation will be introduced to parliament to repeal the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Minister Calls for Work to Tackle Kina Barrens
    Changes to fishing rules and a significant science programme are being undertaken to address kina barrens, says Minister for Oceans and Fisheries Shane Jones. “There has been tremendous interest from iwi, communities and recreational fishers who had raised concerns about such kina infestations being a major threat to Northland’s marine ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Government law and order crackdown begins
    The coalition Government is making good on its promise to restore law and order by removing government funding for Section 27 reports and abolishing the previous Labour Government’s prison reduction target, Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith and Corrections Minister Mark Mitchell say.  “In recent years, the development of Section 27 reports ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Greater focus on getting people into work
    The coalition government will refocus employment efforts and the welfare system so that supporting people who can work into jobs is the number one priority, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Of concern in the labour market statistics released by Stats NZ today was the number of youth not ...
    2 weeks ago
  • One year on, NZ appeals for release of Phillip Mehrtens
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has appealed to those holding New Zealand pilot Phillip Mehrtens in remote Papua, Indonesia, to release him immediately.  Phillip Mehrtens was taken hostage a year ago on 7 February in Paro, Papua, while providing vital air links and supplies to remote communities. “We strongly urge those holding ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ministers reaffirm Pacific connections this week
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Health Minister and Minister for Pacific Peoples Dr Shane Reti are reaffirming the importance of New Zealand’s connections to the Pacific by visiting Tonga, Cook Islands and Samoa this week.  “New Zealand enjoys strong and long-standing relationships with our Pacific partners - especially in Polynesia, where we ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Rt Hon Christopher Luxon – Waitangi speech
    E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā iwi, rau rangatira ma. Tēnā koutou katoa. He tino mihi ki te mana whenua o tēnei rohe.  Mihi mai, mihi mai, mihi mai. Te whare e tū nei, tēnā koe.                               He-wāhi whakahirahira tēnei mō Aotearoa. Ka huri nga whakaaro, ki nga mate. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Government awards primary sector scholarships to students
    Six university students studying agriculture and science have been awarded scholarships as part of the coalition Government’s efforts to boost on-the-ground support for farmers and growers. “The coalition Government is committed to improving support and operating conditions for farmers and growers,” Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says. “We’re backing a range ...
    2 weeks ago
  • High Court Judge appointed
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister Jason Scott McHerron as a High Court Judge. Justice McHerron graduated from the University of Otago with a BA in English literature in 1994 and an LLB in 1996. From 1996 to 1999 he worked as a solicitor in the ...
    3 weeks ago
  • New Zealand provides further humanitarian support to Gaza and the West Bank
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced that New Zealand is providing a further $5 million to respond to the extreme humanitarian need in Gaza and the West Bank.  “The impact of the Israel-Hamas conflict on civilians is absolutely appalling,” Mr Peters says.  “That is why New Zealand has contributed $15 ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Government consults on expanding COVID-19 Inquiry terms of reference
    The Government is delivering on its commitment to enable public input into expanding the scope of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, says Internal Affairs Minister Brooke van Velden. “As committed to in both the ACT-National and NZ First-National coalition agreements, the public will be given the opportunity ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Tai Tokerau Water Boost
    A further $5 million loan has been advanced to the Tai Tokerau Water Trust for Te Waihekeora Reservoir, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says.  “Water is a precious resource, Kānoa – Regional Development and Investment Unit at the Ministry of Business, Innovation, and Employment have done amazing work in the ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Fast track consenting in the fast lane
    The Government is progressing changes to resource management laws as part of its 100 Day Action Plan, with the first steps taken to establish a new fast-track consenting one-stop shop regime. “This new regime, which forms part of National’s coalition agreement with New Zealand First, will improve the speed and ...
    3 weeks ago
    Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence the Hon Richard Marles MP and Minister for Foreign Affairs Senator the Hon Penny Wong hosted New Zealand Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Rt Hon Winston Peters MP and Minister of Defence Hon Judith Collins KC MP on 1 February ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Minimum wage set for cautious increase
    The adult minimum wage rate will increase by 2 per cent to $23.15 an hour from 1 April 2024, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden announced today. “This Government is committed to striking the right balance between protecting the incomes of our lowest paid workers and maintaining labour ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Increased security improves ED safety over summer
    Increasing the number of security staff in emergency departments (EDs) over the busy Christmas and New Year period improved the safety of both staff and patients, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says. 200 additional security staff (93 FTEs) were provided to 32 EDs in response to concerns raised by ED ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Step Closer for European Union Free Trade Agreement
    New Zealand has moved closer to ratifying the New Zealand – European Union Free Trade Agreement (FTA), with the First Reading of legislation to bring the Agreement into force being held in Parliament today.   “Almost a decade after preparatory talks first began on an FTA with the European Union, I’m pleased to ...
    3 weeks ago

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