Gilmore has been under fire for his treatment of a waiter in Hanmer Springs last month, and his accounts since of what happened.
Key stepped up the pressure yesterday. “If he can’t reconcile what happened on that night in the way that he’s described it to me then the answer would have to be yes,” he said.
“In the end to make a contribution you have to have integrity, and to have integrity there has to be a directness and fullness in your answers.”
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How does he say this shit with a straight face?
Integrity, directness and fullness in answers?
Obviously a big believer in do as I say, not as I do.
The one who should be under massive pressure to resign should be Key. Gilmore, as the last man on the list and without support, is dispensable. Key is quite prepared to throw him to the wolves to assuage public taste.
To quote Bomber Bradbury: “What a piece of work our prime minister is.”
I wondered also Karol, but it’s a no-win. Gilmore is making Key look impotent as a leader. I rather suspect instead the media are more interested in this grubby story than the big issues.
I hope Gilmore stays. He’s not done anything worth firing (name dropping is a punishing offence, if he’d acted on it that’s firing stuff).
Yeah, some quote about “looking NZers in the face”.
Some people are compulsive liars. Gilmore is just modelling himself on the master of it all.
The corporate media are quite capable of distracting the folk of NZ without Key’s help.
Why now, thanks to the Herald, we have a new talking point. ……George Pie. The NZ Herald look like they’re operating as McDonald’s PR and marketing tool now.
This is from the archives. It shows that not much has changed over the last three years….
Radio NZ newsreader openly expresses disgust at Israeli propaganda
Tuesday 13 July 2010
I listened to Lloyd Scott read the 5 a.m. news on National Radio. Scott is a sensitive and intelligent man, and he was clearly affected by having to read the following: “An Israeli military investigation into its own killing of nine peace workers has found there were errors of planning, intelligence and coordination but the killings were justified. It also rejected calls for an independent inquiry, saying that it would have been biased.” As he read this last sentence out, his voice rose in dismay.
He read some more items and then the weather forecast. Then, several minutes later, Scott returned to the item about the “inquiry” into the murder of nine peace activists. He said: “That last bit really gets me, you know. Especially the last sentence: ‘An independent inquiry would have been biased.’ Does that mean the Israeli report into their own killing of peace activists was NOT biased?’
Scott’s open disagreement with the content of his script was unusual. Other newsreaders and journalists on New Zealand radio and television often indicate their dissent at having to read out what are often little more than propaganda broadcasts and PR releases for Israel, but they are usually forced to be a little more circumspect. Greg Boyed on TV1 is adept at raising an eyebrow to undermine the nonsense he is forced to read out, and Peter Williams, Alastair Wilkinson, Cameron Bennett, Mark Crysell, Warwick Burke as well as many other newsreaders have clearly struggled to hide their visceral disgust at Israeli brutality and criminality while being forced to read words that have been crafted by others to disguise or excuse it.
More dependably servile this morning was the BBC’s Adam Mynott, who read out the official Israeli statement without betraying even a quiver of emotion.
Interestingly, the BBC’s news coverage of this latest Israeli outrage—not only murdering unarmed civilians, but murdering sense itself by calling the murderers “brave” and their unarmed victims “aggressors”—was followed, a couple of items later, by the announcement that Sudan’s President Bashir has a warrant out for his arrest—for war crimes and crimes against humanity. It is not insignificant that these items were separated—somebody at the BBC obviously decided it would have been too embarrassing for Israel to have the two items juxtaposed, therefore highlighting the absurd gulf in treatment of the two outlaw regimes.
One wonders if the BBC would read out a self-serving justification of the Janjaweed militia’s depredations in the same dutifully “neutral” manner as it read out Giora Eiland’s preposterous “report”.
As much as many on here are enjoying the Aaron Gilmore situation, it seems to me that we are unable to remove list Mp’s who prove themselves to be complete arseholes who seem to be solely in it for the ego trip and the pay packet. (Whilst I accept you could argue there are many unsuitable list Mp’s and who they are is probably dependent on which side of the spectrum you are on)
I would propose that we make list MP’s subject to employment law so in the case that someone behaves like a complete pillock there is a process where they can be removed or formally warned about there behavior.
The power to initiate proceedings could perhaps sit with the speaker or clerk and any Mp who felt the process was unfair could seek remedy in the employment court.
Someone like Gilmore could be for example removed for bringing parliament into disrepute whilst someone Brendan Horan would perhaps be able to remain as an independent as there have been no charges or anything provable that I am aware of.
Whilst we don’t want a party leader to be able to give a list mp the arse just because they disagree on something we do need a mechanism to remove one that proves to be entirely unsuitable. Parties would still be free to kick an mp out of the party but it would be out of their control as to whether or not they are allowed to remain as an independant.
hypothetical scenario time:
Perhaps a regulatory body could set up a little test for incoming MP’s, or those wanting to be. Undertaken by a suitably qualified Polygraph expert. 🙂
1: As an MP, Who do you work for?
2: In the House, will you vote for what is best for the Country or best for your Party?
3: Do you have the ability to work honestly on non-partisan issues?
perhaps others have some ideas for further questions ?
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Baling out before we meet The Reapers’ four whisker cuts
Sleeptalkin’, Sidewalkin’, J-Hawking
No More Heroes anymore, just a dear suck of the pong
Spinning The Circle Blackwards, Toogood
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To The War In Spain. It Starts and Ends With You
per Suede;It’s so easy getting through these times
If you don’t have the answer you don’t have to lie”.
“Too many people going Underground”
“going 60 miles an hour”
So Fast So Numb
the scratch by twitching it! 😉
I would propose that we make list MP’s subject to employment law so in the case that someone behaves like a complete pillock there is a process where they can be removed or formally warned about there behavior.
Just need to bring back the Waka Jumping law then any list MP who misbehaves can be kicked out of the party and loses their seat at the same time.
Parties would still be free to kick an mp out of the party but it would be out of their control as to whether or not they are allowed to remain as an independant.
Someone who comes into parliament via the list is there because the party was voted for, not them. This means that if they stay on as an independent the party has lost part of the representation that it was voted which would be an injustice.
Then we need the power of recall so that electorate MPs can be kicked out by their constituents.
Agreed. I can’t see any good reason for a list MP to stay once they change party. In fact, this should probably apply to electorate MPs as well. I suspect most of them get in on a party vote. Recall would be a great idea, with maybe a 90 day option on beginner’s rates.
Exactly, Hence making it subject to employment law, Basically you have to be a complete tit that would in any reasonable case get the arse card. Simply disagreeing would not be one of those reasons…
But wouldn’t voting against one’s party’s legislation be akin to publicly and directly working against the wishes of one’s employer? It’s not about simply disagreeing with them, it’s about taking actions that fundamentally undermine your employer’s main business.
If the person can’t represent the party’s wishes then they probably shouldn’t be there anyway and kicking someone out is up to the party, not the leader of the party.
No, but under MMP with waka hopping legislation, and the suggestions being made here, she could have been forced out of parliament. The National Party would simply have kicked her out of the party.
Key blames MMP for not being able to sack Gilmore – if Gilmore was a FPP MP Would Key really truly sack the dickhead and force a bye election? Why doesn’t the media ask him that ?
Ok, news from the internal ranks are now that trying to dump Aaron has not quite worked and could have been better handled. If required, Key will take another angle, play it down and shrug it off. Aaron was getting talked to about shutting up and staying low. Key and Dipstick want next week to be about the budget.
“If you vote for a slogan, what do you expect?”
Unfortunately, thanks to a dysfunctional media, and aided and abetted by politicians and political parties, that’s all that many are capable of these days.
Brand Election
It ain’t gonna change till people get their “brand” spirit back as well as a few basic “learnings” * such as the value of protest, questioning and critique, and the realisation that (as someone once said) – democracy is only as good as its opposition.
* or until they’re directly affected by any adverse effects, the result of those they elected (or DIDN’t elect)
Well yeah, but in Gilmore’s case there’s the added wrinkle that he didn’t get in based on the vote on election day. He’s a legitimate MP, but he’s there because National sent Lockwood to London.
National put him on the list, National knew he was next on the list when the sent Lockwood north.
they do that largely because they are sold the idea that the Party has a leadership which many folk assume to mean the Party has made an intelligent and reasoned selection of the best available candidates for the positions on the list.
This is proving to be an increasingly misguided understanding of what actually happens
Even if true, which you can’t know (there are some fucking tragics out there I tell you what), it doesn’t matter.
The fact is that MPs are elected off the list. They are duly elected MPs, like any other.
Saying the party should have a retroactive veto over an MP’s status is just as fucked up for list MPs as it is for electorate MPs. Most voters, I’d be prepared to wager, vote for electorate MPs based on their party affiliation. If that wasn’t the case, then we wouldn’t have safe seats, we wouldn’t see nationwide swings against a party reflected in electorate results, and we’d see more, (or indeed even some) independent MPs.
So the same aergument that applies to List MPs applies to electorate ones. If you can throw out a list MP because it turns out you don’t like them for some reason, then why not an electorate MP. this bullshit about how ‘oh but they were elected as an M<P off their own merits" is belied by history and reason.
When was the last time an electorate MP who was kicked out of the party, or not reselected, voted back in as an independent?
+1 PB. Slippery slope to start shoving out MPs who were fairly elected because we ‘don’t like’ them. Gilmore’s not committed a crime (apparently). Neither did Horan. The media has tried them. I hope Gilmore stays.
Because the owners of the media does not like MMP because it is too democratic ; sometimes this means it does not guarantee a pliant government for their continuing plunder of the country.
…Would Key really truly sack the dickhead and force a bye election?
Nope, because he can’t. He could, possibly, remove him from the party but that’s about it. Philip Field was removed from the party but Labour couldn’t remove him from parliament.
Key is just bitching about his inability to hold his MPs to account. It’s got nothing to do with MMP. Labour had a list MP resign from their position when they were accused of impropriety.
Sure, Key would find it easier if he could legally fire Gilmore but the fact is that the problem is Key’s lack of standing within National itself.
Yep. John Key sets the example of rorting the system, lying to get what you want, and generally playing everyone. Then he expects the narcissistic sociopaths he brings in as useful idiots to act with integrity and resign when things go pear-shaped.
The PM says the sale of assets has been a “triumph”.
113 000 people. 3% of the population.
Maybe he should have amended this to “a triumph for me, my rich mates and the corporations who put me in power.”
FIFY Mr Key.
Idly flicking through some of Sir Alex Ferguson’s best quotes and this one stood out. Talking to his former player Paul Ince, who had just got his first big managerial job, Fergie offered this piece of wisdom:
“The only advice I can give you is don’t let players take the mickey out of you.”
Think Key, think Gilmore.
In football, they talk about losing the dressing room; that is, the gaffer’s authority goes from absolute to absolutely zero the moment they start taking the piss out of him. I suspect Key lost the dressing room yesterday when Gilmore turned up in Parliament and Key couldn’t do a damn thing about it.
What nonsense. Key is as hamstrung by MMP as Fergie has been by player contracts.
What has Fergie done in the past when a player has behaved like a nob to the point he doesn’t want them around anymore. He puts them in the corner and ignores them untill their contract expires or they get the hint and fuck off.
Nice to see your ignorance extends to football, KK. Famously Ferguson actually sells or loans out players who annoy him ASAP. Check Cantona, Keane, Beckham, C. Ronaldo and a host of lesser lights. All gone in a heartbeat.
Ferguson doesn’t let them stink up the joint making him look bad. Which is my point about Key. He is stuck with the Gilmore curls in his particular dressing room, and has no way of getting him out. Gilmore is going to be a daily reminder to the rest of the blue team that Key has no effective power to discipline them, because the majority in Parliament is so tight, he can’t take the risk.
Field was told to resign from Parliament and expelled from the Labour Party, but Gilmore’s offence is political, not criminal, so the comparison has limited usefulness.
“Field was told to resign from Parliament and expelled from the Labour Party”. but lets be honest, it took wee while didn’t it. Not exactly following TRP’s model of fast determined leadership.
What environment are you applying to labour? Fast acting determined leadership ie Man U as detailed by TRP. Or the Carter / Field scenario as detailed by history?
In Key’s National party, he sits above the fray saying there’s nothing he can do, while National party minions feed the press with threats of what will come out next if he doesn’t resign, making mention of the guy’s family.
It was a very long time indeed.
As a matter of fact he never did resign from Parliament and remained an MP until he was defeated in the 2008 election.
So much for a “determined” Helen Clark getting him to do anything.
He got kicked out of the party and that was all that could be done. The problem that you’re identifying is that the electorate couldn’t kick him out until the next election which they subsequently did hence the need for recall.
You are quite right that that was all that could be done.
However I would note that it took at least a year before even that was done and it appeared at the time to be an enraged reaction from HC to the fact that Field had upstaged an announcement she was going to make by saying he would stand against Labour in the next election.
On the other hand I note that at about midday today you seem to be saying that Key’s inability to do what she failed to do is “Excuses, excuses” See your own post at 6.1.2 just below this.
Key’s blaming MMP and that isn’t the problem at all. The immediate problem is that Key or the caucus has no control of an individual MP which is a matter of standing within that party. Labour had a similar issue and they got their list MP to resign so it can be done it’s just that Key/National can’t do it.
TRP, how long will it take for the nation’s dressing room to lose confidence in the PM?
Fascinating to see Colin King, the National MP for Kaikoura, and another poor performer, laughing with Gilmore in the House yesterday. (I wonder, as an aside, whether Colin King sent a message of sympathy to his threatened and disrespected constituent in Hanmer? If I was that hotel worker seeing his MP laughing with his abuser, I’d be highly pissed off.) Gilmore was also laughing with another MP to the seat to his left.
It did not look like Gilmore had been sent to Coventry by his colleagues- either that, or a new spirit of generous forgiveness has overtaken the National back bench.
Contrast that with John Key in interview saying that Gilmore’s return to caucus or membership of the list or party could scarcely be tolerated.
Well spotted, mac1. I note too that Tau Henare, another disaffected Nat, has been acting as Gilmore’s minder in the house.
It can’t have escaped the attention of Key’s MP’s that chiding Gilmore for being shifty is a bit rich coming from a bloke whose every utterance is untrustworthy. And there will be a few of them who don’t even understand what Gilmore did wrong in the first place, given that he was just behaving as a born to rule Tory is supposed to when being given cheek by their lessers.
As for the country’s confidence, well, I’d say Key has now moved into Arsene Wenger territory; still respected but tarnished by his failure to actually win anything worth winning in recent years. Taxi for Mr Key?
1. She supported the retention of capital punishment
2. She destroyed the country’s manufacturing industry
3. She voted against the relaxation of divorce laws
4. She abolished free milk for schoolchildren (“Margaret Thatcher, Milk Snatcher”)
5. She supported more freedom for business (and look how that turned out)
6. She gained support from the National Front in the 1979 election by pandering to the fears of immigration
7. She gerrymandered local authorities by forcing through council house sales, at the same time preventing councils from spending the money they got for selling houses on building new houses (spending on social housing dropped by 67% in her premiership)
8. She was responsible for 3.6 million unemployed – the highest figure and the highest proportion of the workforce in history and three times the previous government. Massaging of the figures means that the figure was closer to 5 million
9. She ignored intelligence about Argentinian preparations for the invasion of the Falkland Islands and scrapped the only Royal Navy presence in the islands
10. The poll tax
11. She presided over the closure of 150 coal mines; we are now crippled by the cost of energy, having to import expensive coal from abroad
12. She compared her “fight” against the miners to the Falklands War
13. She privatised state monopolies and created the corporate greed culture that we’ve been railing against for the last 5 years
14. She introduced the gradual privatisation of the NHS
15. She introduced financial deregulation in a way that turned city institutions into avaricious money pits
16. She pioneered the unfailing adoration and unquestioning support of the USA
17. She allowed the US to place nuclear missiles on UK soil, under US control
18. Section 28
19. She opposed anti-apartheid sanctions against South Africa and described Nelson Mandela as “that grubby little terrorist”
20. She support the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and sent the SAS to train their soldiers
21. She allowed the US to bomb Libya in 1986, against the wishes of more than 2/3 of the population
22. She opposed the reunification of Germany
23. She invented Quangos
24. She increased VAT from 8% to 17.5%
25. She had the lowest approval rating of any post-war Prime Minister
26. Her post-PM job? Consultant to Philip Morris tobacco at $250,000 a year, plus $50,000 per speech
27. The Al Yamamah contract
28. She opposed the indictment of Chile’s General Pinochet
29. Social unrest under her leadership was higher than at any time since the General Strike
30. She presided over interest rates increasing to 15%
31. BSE
32. She presided over 2 million manufacturing job losses in the 79-81 recession
33. She opposed the inclusion of Eire in the Northern Ireland peace process
34. She supported sanctions-busting arms deals with South Africa
35. Cecil Parkinson, Alan Clark, David Mellor, Jeffrey Archer, Jonathan Aitkin
36. Crime rates doubled under Thatcher
37. Black Wednesday – Britain withdraws from the ERM and the pound is devalued. Cost to Britain – £3.5 billion; profit for George Soros – £1 billion
38. Poverty doubled while she opposed a minimum wage
39. She privatised public services, claiming at the time it would increase public ownership. Most are now owned either by foreign governments (EDF) or major investment houses. The profits don’t now accrue to the taxpayer, but to foreign or institutional shareholders.
40. She cut 75% of funding to museums, galleries and other sources of education
41. In the Thatcher years the top 10% of earners received almost 50% of the tax remissions
42. 21.9% inflation
In the midst of dwindling city budgets, Detroit is still in need of city maintenance. Community members are stepping up and volunteering more actively to keep their city clean and running.
The Electoral Commission has published the 2012 donation returns from registered political parties. They appear to reveal a major breach of electoral law by the Labour Party.
Donations over $15,000 only have to be disclosed annually, but donations over $30,000 must be disclosed within 10 working days of receipt.
Labour’s return shows they received $430,259.33 from the estate of Brian Dalley (ironically a professional property investor who made his riches from capital gains) between April and July 2012. They were required to disclose this to the Electoral Commission within 10 working days, but the Commissions say they were only notified on 9 May 2013. Their disclosure is 12 months late.
Very sorry to have offended you Pascal. Duly noted. Will make sure I do that next time.
Yes, it is unusual to be eager here at The Standard. Perhaps you could do that for all eager posts without references in your polite manner and we will all learn to behave.
Sure Colonial. As much as I don’t like John Banks and I do believe he knew about the donations, this oversight of some $400k makes life difficult for Labour to walk the moral high ground. And I seriously wonder wtf is wrong with the lot of them. I believe that all this nonsense that is thrown around in the mainstream media just turns voters off, hence I think as I have said before it encourages apathy as a virtue. Unless something drastic happens in the next 18 months I doubt that voter turnout is going to improve at the next election.
My husband decided a couple of years ago to become apolitical as he was over it. To the point that during local body elections he gives me the form to fill out and I had to make him go and vote last election.
Voters will rally behind politicians with great convictions. That we do not have at the moment from any party.
“Yes, it is unusual to be eager here at The Standard. Perhaps you could do that for all eager posts without references in your polite manner and we will all learn to behave.”
Do you understand the difference (technically and ethically) between posting without references, and plagiarism?
Yes I do. It was an error and I apologise. Happens to the best sometimes too. Perhaps you too could help everyone behave by pointing these things out every time they happen. Have a great weekend.
What a joke, there are two options, either they are so incompetent and thick that it didnt occur that it may be considered a donation and should be declared within the ten days or they decided to try and hide it deliberately. Presumably they are just incompetent and thick which is only slightly better than being deliberate. With this and Shrearer forgetting his US account Labour have lost any integrity critiquing Banks, in both cases it could hardly be worse, it wasn’t a back bench MP that forgot to put something on the register it was the leader, and it wasn’t a small donation a little over the limit it was 400k+, I’m astonished they just can’t get the basics right and while they keep messing it up they give the NATZ free rein to wreck havoc, pathetic.
Local Boy Tim Flannery on Climate Change.
He has that relaxed conversational style aussies are good at but describes some sobering facts about the great changes happening on our Planet:
2012 political party donation returns were released yesterday, and while I glanced over them, I didn’t think there was anything unusual: the Greens were funded by MP’s tithes, Labour got a large bequest, and National was funded by property developers and a foreign corporation laundering its donations through an NZ front. It took DPF’s sharp eyes to notice the problem: Labour had hidden a $430,000 donation for a year:
Donations over $15,000 only have to be disclosed annually, but donations over $30,000 must be disclosed within 10 working days of receipt.
Labour’s return shows they received $430,259.33 from the estate of Brian Dalley (ironically a professional property investor who made his riches from capital gains) between April and July 2012. They were required to disclose this to the Electoral Commission within 10 working days, but the Commissions say they were only notified on 9 May 2013. Their disclosure is 12 months late.
The penalty for failing to comply with s210C without reasonable excuse is a $40,000 fine. Labour needs to tell us why they were so slack about complying with their legal obligations. And if their reason isn’t good enough, they need to be prosecuted. The integrity of our electoral system depends on it.
Quoted in full as it was short enough.
Going to have to agree with I/S on that. It is unacceptable and Labour better cough up one way or the other.
Perhaps it is time for a central processor for party donation deposits. Run the whole thing through Kiwi Bank which has full integration with all necessary banking services. People cruise in, pick up their Party Donation card, fill in the details as per anonymity/disclosure rules and whambam a much more open and accountable system. Party event bucket collections and donations of smaller figures can be processed as they currently are, as block donations, and are deposited usually within a few days of collection anyway. All larger donations are transferred or deposited via the register as they arrive. On line Banking of course makes it even simpler. Even the great PayWave [the RFID scammers wunderkind] can be easily adopted to the process.
Each registered Party supplies the central body with one bank account number and all funds get deposited into that specific account. The account deposit details are cross fed to a public register that is automatically updated. This simple operation already exists in all banking/payment transaction services, so the systems are in place to do it. The question is does the will exist?
Why will people poo poo this common sense resolution to transparency in our democracy?
Simply because there is no good reason for it not to be implemented.
Perhaps it is time for a central processor for party donation deposits.
Good idea but doubt it will happen. Such a system surely would require some outside auditing. Imagine the Nat consternation knowing some of their shadiest donation deals might become known and get into the public arena. They would crawl over broken glass with bare feet and hands to stop any law requiring such a system.
My best answer to what happened is similar to the revelation a couple of years ago that Labour did not have a secure email system and the ‘slimy one’ ended up with members’ personal details. In other words, the left hand still doesn’t know what the right hand is doing.
To be fair it’s another example why political parties need to be funded from the public purse. It’s well known Labour’s Head Office is under-funded and under-staffed.
with an open donation deposit scheme such as outlined above the auditing is as straightforward as it gets. One account per party, regardless of where the money comes from, is an auditor’s dream. It matters not if the deposits are physical or electronic, there is no way to avoid the required protocols, regardless of amount, the depositor or the Party.
Update: According to NewstalkZB’s Felix Marwick, the Electoral Commission has accepted Labour’s excuse of “confusion as to whether a bequest counts as a donation” and there will be no referral to police. So the law means nothing again. What is the point of electoral law if it is never enforced?
Labour plays the same game as NAct and Farrar is just jealous because he thinks his Tories are entitled to that money. I don’t expect Labour to be paragons of virtue, but I would like them to get an inspiring leader so they can contribute to the next coalition government.
But yeah, this is an unforgivable level of incompetence.
You know, this was definitely a time when the left wanted the media to stop hammering Key’s lying bullshit. Providing another gobsmacking example of the Labour Party’s inability to manage money will totally win back those centrist voters.
There are serious attempts by the NAct Govt to promote Northland as a “mecca” for gold and silver mining, plus oil drilling in the seas off the coastline. We believe both will have a disastrous effect on the environment in the north, and could well be very damaging to the farming and tourism industries already in existence. The following article – published the other day in the local daily paper – gives you some idea of what we are up against. And with our current govt changing first The Crown Minerals Act, and next the Resource Management Act, to make it much, much easier for mining companies to come in and do their work without regard for the environment, or for the adverse social consequences that will flow on from there, we have quite a battle on our hands.
This message is just to let you know what is going on (ie all the people who read and post on The Standard). I will keep you informed of developments.
Jenny Kirk
Puhipuhi Mining Action Group
” Spectre of pollution ”
Nickie Muir
8th May 2013 Northern Advocate
“Last month far away in a village not unlike Whangarei, something extraordinary happened. The Argentine town of Esquel celebrated 10 years of community solidarity, sustainability and true democracy.
“Thousands of people came out onto the streets to remember an unlikely victory for a town of only 30,000 people, against toxic mining that had threatened their town water supply. To understand what is so remarkable about this is to know that Argentina was in economic meltdown and unemployment was three times as high as what Northland’s is today.
“In 2003 the massive open pit mine in Catamarca – the Alumbrera, in the north, was still being hailed as the gold bullet which would save the economy (it took until this February for a massive uprising of illiterate small holding farmers there to rebel against contamination in the air and waterways).
“Esquel is also at the other end of the country from where decisions get made.
“But Esquel proved problematic for the mining PR men mainly because unlike their countrymen to the north, the residents are the educated middle class escaping the capital to establish environmentally sustainable businesses around the natural resources there. Instead of taking the environmental impact report from the mining company at face value the residents hired scientists from the University of Patagonia and found that the original EIR was deeply flawed.
“They formed an apolitical neighbourhood association to better inform the community of the true costs of the mine as well as looking at a hard business case for it.
“Consultation with the company broke down over a lack of integrity in the discussions. Namely, the mine sued residents over a leaked tape of PR and mining execs discussing “hiring community leaders to sway opinion and persuade hard liners” to accept the mine and it’s proximity to the waterways despite the environmental risks. This upset more than a few and more than 8000 people turned out to protest. The mayor – sensing a tide change – called for a referendum to decide whether or not the mine would go ahead and 81 per cent of the people of Esquel voted against the mine and eventually passed a local bill banning all toxic mining in the province.
“Esquel’s solidarity inspired other small communities throughout Latin America but it also became a case study for mining companies to ensure that it didn’t happen again. There was too much lead time for the community to get informed – they were educated and organised. Esquel and its fishing, skiing and national parks are today a thriving centre of sustainable business based on the vision of the genuine community leaders from 10 years ago.
“De Grey has exploration rights now in two areas – the sparsely populated, arid and impoverished province of Santa Cruz in Argentina, and rights to 6000ha 30km north of Whangarei, in Puhipuhi.
“There has been no clear public information on whether this area is in the catchment for the town water supply. The Ngati Hau report on behalf of Fonterra states that the Waiariki Stream in Puhipuhi is already high in mercury “to a level that indicates that adverse effects of mercury on the biota living within the sediments could potentially occur frequently”. Ironic that De Grey’s info pack on Puhipuhi has dairy cows on the cover.
“There is no mention in Stephen Joyce’s Economic Activity Report on how toxic mining could affect the production of Northland’s real white gold – milk powder. Or that it regularly floods there.
” Instead, local politicians and PR men tell those who ask to “trust us – we know what we’re doing”. They told the residents of Catamarca and Esquel the same.”
Well done “Steve” + collegue from Work and Income Willis St, who was seen yesterday on the streets of Wellington asking those begging for money for food if Work and Income could help – your excellence is showing!
Thanks Anne but now I will have nightmares! That GCSB law change is very serious but we little people are easily riled by the Gilmores or the price of pies or milk but the enormity of what faces our NZ society is too hard to manage. Perhaps Mr Gilmore is running a deliberate deflection?
After listening to Manning and Trotter, I think we can more than safely say… now we know why John Key was so determined to have Ian Flectcher take on the role of the GCSB boss.
exactly, but they are all nice people in multinational corporations, they would never try to use information for influence or steal cultural or private institutions from people. I am sure Aotearoa has nothing to worry about in the TPPA, nothing at all
This is of course the neofeudal model: the financial aristocracy in the manor house own the rentier assets and the debt-serfs toil away to pay the rents and taxes. The financier class (i.e. those that benefit from the financialization of the economy) are as unproductive as feudal lords; they skim the profits generated by the debt-serfs while adding no productive value to the economy.
Given that MRP is trading at $2.73, nearly 10% than higher the Government chosen float price, is Key going to call himself out for costing the taxpayer $170 million by undervaluing the stock? Is he going to call English and Ryall ‘wreckers’ for getting this so badly wrong?
I can’t wait for the posts on WO and the Sewer screaming ‘SABOTAGE!’. Can’t be long now ….
Winstone,
as much as political parties would like it, we do not have lifetime terms in our Parliament.
We do have [apparently] changes of government on quite a regular basis. The NZ Power announcement is the most basic mechanism that any new Government could have come up with. Such an obvious hypothesis and no doubt several others were, I am sure, all dutifully considered and priced accordingly. Any risk assessor that failed to factor such a possibility is not earning the thousands of dollars a day/hour/word they were most likely charging.
there was an issue with the ceremonial codpieces not being easily transferable to the daughter,
so they just gave power over to the people
and there were free turnips for all
but they kept the butter
They might as well speculate that the revelations of the mis-management of Solid Energy, including its being “encouraged” to borrow in order to pay larger dividends, put people off investing in a company that has this government as the major shareholder.
Julie Anne spoke eloquently to the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Act in Parliament yesterday, placing the increasing environmental risks in context.Like, the 1B government shortfall on claims for red-zoned Christchurch properties and the toxic MDF fire that continues to burn…
p.s, to correct Seven Sharp, Jesus suggested if you are gonna be a toad-in-the-hole, do it discretely.
-Matthew 6:5, And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray publicly on street corners, etc, where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get.
Synthetic clones (analogues) produced and released overnight.
Better the Apache barf than anything associated with the MS puke though huh?
If you arrange things nicely enough, an Apache barf can actually look quite pretty, whereas anything related to sn MS puke takes a lot of cleaning up, alongside the potential risk of litigation as to who owns the resultant psychedelic outpuke.
Barf away all Ye who have created your awesome facility, knowing as Ye do that any opposition (including garage-built, back-yard-developed memory management routines and most other functionality) has LESS to do with undeserving Bill&Melindas (with an eye for the processes of patents and the benefits of credibility-earning philanthropy), than it has do do with those that are the genuine creators of the new mankind.
Barf away as much as you like – the space is free and unincimbered with legalese and underserved rights as to ownership.
Now would be a most excellent time for a journalist to ask John Key the elephant in the room question . .
How did Aaron Gilmore become a List member of the National party?
a: A Bingo game ?
b: you thought you were ringing Ian Fletcher ?
c: he is the son of your good mate in CHCH?
I have only read it here also, but surely [although probably not put forward in quite the same terms] it is a valid question to put to the Party Leader of any Party?
The Wimp-Walloping continues on The Panel
Wimp: DITA DI BONI; Walloper: STEPHEN FRANKS
Radio NZ National, Friday 10 May 2013
Jim Mora’s Panel chat show has definitely returned to the mediocrity it had seemed to climb out of for a few weeks.
Today’s guests are Stephen Franks, the unspeakably cynical, hard-right Wellington lawyer and “legal adviser” to the S.S. Trust, and Dita Di Boni, a shallow columnist best known for being married to Ali Ikram. Today, as a preface to her Soapbox contribution, she giggled winsomely: “As you know, Jim, I am an avid reader of women’s magazines.”
Today, Franks is running amok, and Dita Di Boni, although she is clearly disturbed by his ranting, lacks the confidence to argue against him.
And of course, Mora laughs and offers his slobbering agreement to everything Franks says.
It’s just too, too depressing. This is what happens when you stop people like Gordon Campbell and Bomber Bradbury coming on your programme.
Mediocrity, timidity and sycophancy. What an insult to the listeners. What a wasted opportunity. What a great pity.
They never mention Frank’s political leanings – just that he’s a lawyer.
ACT got 1% of the vote.
What % of Mora’s guests are libertarian ideologues like Franks?
Hello GCSB …….enjoying reading these conversations?
Morrissey: The problem with too many of you on the “left” here is your damned pre-occupation with the crap media on the right, the private side, or even with now rather government friendly RNZ!
You are with these comments and other lack of contributions only serving the damned interests of the very perpetrators you try to expose, ridicule, challenge and beat, without realising it.
The only way to defeat and take a strong stand against the commercial or non commercial RIGHT is to BLOODY WELL MAKE YOUR OWN PROGRAM!
Stop whining and whinging and use the Standard or other forums, to present, to not just discuss, to offer multimedia, like a leftist YouTube, Fakebook and more combined. So there is a damned idea. Make a program that informs, that reveals, that communicates, that presents documentaries and information of value, to counter act this commercial trash we get on the media you are unhappy with. Perhaps have a chat with Lyn Prentice and others about how to establish such alternative media, since You Tube seems to go for pay TV at request now in the US.
More can be done here too, so do not leave it to the shit media we have cater for us now. Just a desperate idea, perhaps. Sorry to upset, but I need to submit some suggestions and ideas here, I feel!
This writer, i.e. moi, received a right old ticking off from our good friend xtasy late last night. I will attempt to address his concerns as best I can…
1.) Morrissey: The problem with too many of you on the “left” here is your damned pre-occupation with the crap media on the right, the private side, or even with now rather government friendly RNZ!
That’s because I, and many others, actually think it’s important to hold their vile behaviour up for inspection. Not just ridicule, mind you, but a serious inspection of what they are up to. So, for instance, when I parse a lunatic NBR editorial by Nevil “Breivik” Gibson or a wasted hour of assiduously trivial chat on The Panel or the insulting and shameless reading out of government PR handouts masquerading as news, I do it in a spirit of seriousness, not simply to make fun of the likes of Breivik Gibson.
2.) You are with these comments and other lack of contributions only serving the damned interests of the very perpetrators you try to expose, ridicule, challenge and beat, without realising it.
Judging by the emails and public admonitions I have received from the likes of Leighton “Ummm Ahhhh” Smith, Larry “Lackwit” Williams, Kerre “Red China” Woodham, Stephen Franks and even Jim Mora himself (he once asked me if I had “any more bile for today?”), these people don’t regard me as enhancing their positions in any way.
3.) The only way to defeat and take a strong stand against the commercial or non commercial RIGHT is to BLOODY WELL MAKE YOUR OWN PROGRAM!
No thanks. I have better things to do with my time. My contributions to this and a couple of other fora take only a small amount of time. I have a job, and I have thousands of books to read. I don’t want to throw my life away just yet.
4.) Stop whining and whinging…
Excuse me? I don’t appreciate such reductive and trivialising attacks—I won’t dignify those lazy epithets by calling them criticism. That’s the kind of thoughtless, indolent stuff I hear coming from the Prime Minister.
…. and use the Standard or other forums [sic] to present, to not just discuss, to offer multimedia, like a leftist YouTube, Fakebook and more combined. So there is a damned idea. Make a program that informs, that reveals, that communicates, that presents documentaries and information of value, to counter act this commercial trash we get on the media you are unhappy with. Perhaps have a chat with Lyn Prentice and others about how to establish such alternative media, since You Tube seems to go for pay TV at request now in the US.
Okay, I’ll try. Lyn, gimme half a million bucks NOW PLEASE! I intend to make a nuclear device with it.
5.) More can be done here too, so do not leave it to the shit media we have cater for us now. Just a desperate idea, perhaps. Sorry to upset, but I need to submit some suggestions and ideas here, I feel!
I share your frustration, my friend, but I think you should take another look at my oeuvre; it doesn’t begin and end with railing against radio and television. My play scripts are, even if I do say so myself, legendary….
wouldn’t it be nice to get the old fashioned reporting where credit and cash were reported seperately.
One is spending your money, one is building debt. ‘Total electonic card spending’ is pointless meaningless and dishonest reporting of expenditure.
Even spending “your own money” is nothing more than spending someone else’s debt, whether its the Government’s borrowed money, money someone got for a house funded from a mortgage, etc.
Hence our debt based monetary system. The banks have set it up so that almost no one can escape.
Like a tunnel that you follow to a tunnel of its own
Down a hollow to a cavern where the sun has never shone
Like a door that keeps revolving in a half forgotten dream
Or the ripples from a pebble someone tosses in a stream
when I first heard Windmills of Your Mind I was struck how it seemed to be about more than just cute redheads. I reckon that Legrand cat was on to something.
Here’s hoping. Robertson showed himself to be an utter coward yet again – a disappointment, but not a surprise – by issuing another press release reassuring Phil O’Reilly that he’ll still obediently plaster lipstick on the neoliberal pig.
Still, if the Greens keep the pressure on, and if it dawns on the careerists that Winston Peters is not their guaranteed Deus Ex Machina and that maybe they actually – OMG – have to earn their votes instead of having them delivered by the proles as fealty, maybe, just maybe, in their dramatic, epic, legendary effort to snatch defeat from the grinning, slavering, dripping, sharp-toothed, bitey, oh my what big teeth you have jaws of victory, the party pretending to be “Labour” might actually, almost by accident, do something right and maybe even win.
I hope they keep it up. Maybe they’ll realise that this is the direction they have to follow, not trying to snatch NACT voters by being utterly indistinguishable.
Comments like this make me more afraid and convinced, that the reactionary social forces out there are rather pro “national socialist” lines of thinking than anything that used to be “traditional” “left”!
I am sorry, but I feel so many of you guys have and are losing it, you live in little political closets, and you do not have a real sense of the tensions, hatred and competition that goes on out there. I feel you are all losers, living in some past scenario that is long gone. It is now division and blood fight about rights and privileges and so forth. Traditional socialism is DEAD! Hitler’s Socialism may be the future, and I hate it.
That’s my fear too. Rather than bickering over whether the glass is half full or half empty, I’m just hoping that there’s any water left at all. “Labour’s” careerists like Shearer, Robertson et al give me little hope.
While downloading the blueprints may not be illegal, any UK citizen who made and owned such a handgun could face arrest, according to the UK’s Metropolitan Police.
“To actually manufacture any type of firearm in the UK, you have to be a registered firearms dealer (RFD),” it said in a statement.
“Therefore, unless you are an RFD, it would most definitely be an offence to make a gun using the blueprints. It may be legal for an RFD to manufacture a gun this way, as long as they had the necessary authorities.”
One of the biggest headaches for law enforcers is the fact the gun is made from plastic – with only the firing pin made from metal.
Now I write some of this in CAPITALS on purpose, as I want to point out to you guys that Whaleoil seems to have an easy and special access to You Tube, he has heaps of clips loaded on that media venue, and I see none or little of other ones, when it come sot politics, current affairs and so forth, from any other blog or NZ media.
THIS IS DISTURBING! I again write this to raise awareness of the moderators here and affiliated blogs. We have an overly right wing focus on blogs and media in NZ! this is facilitated by commercial interests and government interests making available finance and more to allow this to happen. We are stuffed if we do not take a resolute position and prepare to take a stand to defend against this.
I am only commenting as an observer and part time blogger, but this is so damned serious, I hope and trust all affected will listen, read this and act upon it. Otherwise you may as well close down the “left” and let them do what they want. I am sure nobody here wants that, and I appeal especially to the so many half hearted and passive, wake bloody up and take a stand again, or you will soon face REAL DICTATORSHIP, this is NO joke!
The special access is called time. Because Cameron Slater seems to have been pretty useless at everything he has ever done outside of blogging (and even the effectiveness of that is arguable), he has time on his hands.
Whereas most of the main authors here are holding down fulltime and quite demanding jobs from the ones I know of. So this site gets done in whatever spare time we have.
Farrar is a bit different. He runs a polling company that seems to mainly have conservative political parties as it’s clients. While that gives him more control over his time than someone like I’d have, it clearly does not leave enough to spend time watching lots of YouTube. He virtually never features them. However he is also far more politically effective.
Slater appears to mainly put videos and images up to drive international visits and page views to his site from search engines. While that is probably effective at driving up his advertising revenue, its influence on the NZ political scene is minimal. Reading his site recently has become an exercise in wasting time for anyone interested in local politics.
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As previously noted, my historical fantasy piece, set in the fifth-century Mediterranean, was accepted for a Pirate Horror anthology, only for the anthology to later fall through. But in a good bit of news, it turned out that the story could indeed be re-marketed as sword and sorcery. As of ...
An employee of tobacco company Philip Morris International demonstrates a heated tobacco device. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy on Friday, July 19 are:At a time when the Coalition Government is cutting spending on health, infrastructure, education, housing ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 8:30 am on Friday, July 19 are:Scoop: NZ First Minister Casey Costello orders 50% cut to excise tax on heated tobacco products. The minister has ...
Kia ora, it’s time for another Friday roundup, in which we pull together some of the links and stories that caught our eye this week. Feel free to add more in the comments! Our header image this week shows a foggy day in Auckland town, captured by Patrick Reynolds. ...
TL;DR : Here’s the top six items climate news for Aotearoa this week, as selected by Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent Cathrine Dyer. A discussion recorded yesterday is in the video above and the audio of that sent onto the podcast feed.The Government released its draft Emissions Reduction ...
Save some money, get rich and old, bring it back to Tobacco Road.Bring that dynamite and a crane, blow it up, start all over again.Roll up. Roll up. Or tailor made, if you prefer...Whether you’re selling ciggies, digging for gold, catching dolphins in your nets, or encouraging folks to flutter ...
Waiting In The Wings:For truly, if Trump is America’s un-assassinated Caesar, then J.D. Vance is America’s Octavian, the Republic’s youthful undertaker – and its first Emperor.DONALD TRUMP’S SELECTION of James D. Vance as his running-mate bodes ill for the American republic. A fervent supporter of Viktor Orban, the “illiberal” prime ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Friday, July 19, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:The PSAannounced the Employment Relations Authority (ERA) had ruled in the PSA’s favour in its case against the Ministry ...
A late change to charter school legislation will cheat educators out of fair pay and negotiating power proving charter schools are just a vehicle to make profit out of our education system. ...
In 2004 te iwi Māori rallied against the Crown’s attempt to confiscate our coastlines and moana with the Foreshore and Seabed Act. This led to the largest hīkoi of a generation and the birth of Te Pāti Māori. 20 years later, history is repeating itself. Today the government has announced ...
It has been five and a half years since the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care was established to investigate the abuse of children, young people, and vulnerable adults within state and faith-based institutions. Yesterday, the final report - Whanaketia through pain and trauma, from darkness to light ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to take action off the back of the International Court of Justice ruling on Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine. ...
On Friday the International Court of Justice reaffirmed what Palestinian’s have been telling us for decades: that the occupation and colonisation of Palestinian lands by Israel is illegal and must end immediately. They also called for reparations for Palestinian’s who have lived under Israeli occupation since it began in 1967. ...
Labour calls on the Government to act after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territories is illegal. ...
The 53.7 percent rise in benefit sanctions over the last year is more proof of this Government’s disdain for our communities most in need of support. ...
Aotearoa could be a country where every child grows up feeling safe, loved and with a sense of belonging in their whānau and community. But for some of our children, this is far from reality. Instead, they are trapped in a maze of intergenerational harm that they can’t escape on ...
Te Pāti Māori are calling for David Seymour to resign as Associate Health Minister in response to his call for Pharmac to ignore the Treaty of Waitangi. “This announcement is just another example of the government’s anti-Tiriti, anti-Māori agenda.” Said Co-leader and spokesperson for health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. “Seymour thinks it ...
The soaring price of renting is driving the rise of inflation in this country - with latest figures from Stats NZ showing rents are up 4.8 per cent on average while annual inflation is at 3.3 per cent. ...
National’s Emissions Reduction Plan will take New Zealand further from the economy we need to ensure the next generation has a stable climate and secure livelihoods. ...
Following consultation with named parties and thorough consideration of privacy interests, the Green Party is in a position to release the Executive Summary of the final report from the independent investigation into Darleen Tana. ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon should be asking serious questions of his Minister for Resources Shane Jones now it’s been revealed he misled the public about a dinner with mining companies that he didn’t declare and said wasn’t pre-arranged. ...
Te Pāti Māori have submitted to the Justice Select Committee against the Sentencing (Reinstating Three Strikes) Amendment Bill. The bill will further entrench racism in our justice system and fails to focus on rehabilitation. “Reinstating Three Strikes will empower a systematically racist system and exacerbate the overrepresentation of Māori in ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee is set to make a determination on the Residential Tenancies Amendment (RTA) Bill in the coming weeks. “This legislation will give landlords the power to kick our whānau out onto the street for no reason” said Housing spokesperson, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “Their solution to the housing ...
“National’s campaign was about tackling crime and the best they can do is a two-year long Ministerial Advisory Group,” Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
“There are more examples of charter schools failing their students than there are success stories. The coalition Government is driving to dismantle our public school system and instead promote a privatised, competitive structure that puts profits before kids,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
“This government is choosing to deliberately mislead and withhold information, keeping our people in the dark about this government’s agenda and the future of our mokopuna,” said co-leader and spokesperson for Health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. The call comes after the demand from the Chief Ombudsman that Associate Minister of Health, Casey ...
“Today’s climate announcement by Simon Watts makes clear the National Government is simply paying lip service to meeting its climate change targets,” Megan Woods said. ...
National is choosing to make life harder for workers by taking away the rights our communities have fought hard for. Here's how they’re taking workers backwards. ...
Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on the need for an urgent ceasefire in Gaza and the risk of expanded conflict between Hizballah and Israel. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue. We remain unequivocal in our condemnation of ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today reminded all State and faith-based institutions of their legal obligation to preserve records relevant to the safety and wellbeing of those in its care. “The Abuse in Care Inquiry’s report has found cases where records of the most vulnerable people in State and faith‑based institutions were ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government’s online safety website for children and young people has reached one million page views. “It is great to see so many young people and their families accessing the site Keep It Real Online to learn how to stay safe online, and manage ...
Tēnā tātou katoa, Ngā mihi te rangi, ngā mihi te whenua, ngā mihi ki a koutou, kia ora mai koutou. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and the invitation to speak at this 50th anniversary conference. I acknowledge all those who have gone before us and paved the ...
New Zealand’s payroll providers have successfully prepared to ensure 3.5 million individuals will, from Wednesday next week, be able to keep more of what they earn each pay, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Revenue Minister Simon Watts. “The Government's tax policy changes are legally effective from Wednesday. Delivering this tax ...
An experimental vineyard which will help futureproof the wine sector has been opened in Blenheim by Associate Regional Development Minister Mark Patterson. The covered vineyard, based at the New Zealand Wine Centre – Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa, enables controlled environmental conditions. “The research that will be produced at the Experimental ...
The Coalition Government has confirmed the indicative regional breakdown of North Island Weather Event (NIWE) funding for state highway recovery projects funded through Budget 2024, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Regions in the North Island suffered extensive and devastating damage from Cyclone Gabrielle and the 2023 Auckland Anniversary Floods, and ...
Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Retno Marsudi, will visit New Zealand next week, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “Indonesia is important to New Zealand’s security and economic interests and is our closest South East Asian neighbour,” says Mr Peters, who is currently in Laos to engage with South East Asian partners. ...
He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting the aspirations of Ngāti Maniapoto, Minister for Māori Development Tama Potaka says. “My thanks to Te Nehenehenui Trust – Ngāti Maniapoto for bringing their important kōrero to a ministerial ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has thanked outgoing Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority, Janice Fredric, for her service to the board.“I have received Ms Fredric’s resignation from the role of Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority,” Mr Brown says.“On behalf of the Government, I want to thank Ms Fredric for ...
The Government is proposing legislation to overturn a Court of Appeal decision and amend the Marine and Coastal Area Act in order to restore Parliament’s test for Customary Marine Title, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Section 58 required an applicant group to prove they have exclusively used and occupied ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour says that opposition parties have united in bad faith, opposing what they claim are ‘dangerous changes’ to the Early Childhood Education sector, despite no changes even being proposed yet. “Issues with affordability and availability of early childhood education, and the complexity of its regulation, has led ...
After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks. “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. At the heart of this report are the ...
For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024. “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane. “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says. “This will be our third visit to ...
Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today. “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum. While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation. “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan. “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
Acting Prime Minister David Seymour has been in contact throughout the evening with senior officials who have coordinated a whole of government response to the global IT outage and can provide an update. The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet has designated the National Emergency Management Agency as the ...
New Zealand and Japan will continue to step up their shared engagement with the Pacific, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “New Zealand and Japan have a strong, shared interest in a free, open and stable Pacific Islands region,” Mr Peters says. “We are pleased to be finding more ways ...
New developments in the heart of North Island forestry country will reinvigorate their communities and boost economic development, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones visited Kaingaroa and Kawerau in Bay of Plenty today to open a landmark community centre in the former and a new connecting road in ...
President Adeang, fellow Ministers, honourable Diet Member Horii, Ambassadors, distinguished guests. Minasama, konnichiwa, and good afternoon, everyone. Distinguished guests, it’s a pleasure to be here with you today to talk about New Zealand’s foreign policy reset, the reasons for it, the values that underpin it, and how it ...
Comment: After Climate Change Minister Simon Watts’ preview several weeks ago, I had some optimism about the Government’s emissions reduction plan. Now I’ve read the discussion document, that hope has been dashed. How can the Government propose a plan that wants to take New Zealand taxpayers’ hard-earned money, and spend ...
Christopher Luxon: hurdles The little man from National jumps hurdles in his sleep. He’s quite good at it in his dreams and even though the reality doesn’t quite match up you have to give him credit for getting up every morning and crashing into the very first hurdle of the ...
Comment: It was a good two hours into the conversation when Tyrone Marks raised the most basic of questions when I first spoke to him in 2017. “They didn’t explain the things they did to me. They never told me why. And they still haven’t. There’s no explanation for it. ...
Last summer when Matairangi burned, Ginny and Tom stood at the window of their lounge, watching kākā shoot skyward from the burning trees. From the distance, they looked to Ginny like pages torn from books and thrown into a bonfire. It was Tom, voice tight, who told her it was ...
Opinion: The Canadian short story writer Alice Munro – winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2013 – died in May at the age of 92. Her work was about “the damage people inflict on one another in the name of love”, Deborah Treisman wrote in the New Yorker. ...
This month marks two years since the most powerful telescope ever built sent its first pictures back to earth. From its lofty vantage point, beyond the moon in orbit around the sun, the James Webb Space Telescope was tuned to observe the first stars and galaxies being born soon after ...
Madeleine Chapman rounds out Death Week on The Spinoff with a final recommendation. You can read all of our Death Week coverage here. Nothing forces you to reflect on your life and relationships quite like proximity to death. For those whose nearest and dearest have died, there are reasonably obvious ...
Whitney Greene takes us through her life in television, including the TV character she’d like to plan a funeral for and her cow lung catastrophe on The Traitors NZ. “If the phone rings, I have to answer it,” Whitney Greene from The Traitors NZ warns as we begin our My ...
Maddie Ballard reviews the debut essay collection of Pōneke writer Flora Feltham.In ‘The Raw Material’, the longest essay in Flora Feltham’s dazzling debut collection, the author heads out for a run after hours of weaving and sees the world turn to textile. “Pounding along the Parade, I saw the ...
Andy Christiansen, one half of the experimental rock-pop duo TRiPS, shares the tunes inspiring the band’s perfect weekend and new release. “Good speakers, good food, good music, no distractions”: that’s all you need to enjoy the psychedelic stylings of TRiPS, a new band formed by Fly My Pretties’ Barnaby Weir ...
Celebrating our quadrennial opportunity to become experts in a bunch of sports we never normally watch.The games of the XXXIII Olympiad are upon us. Paris will host this year’s showcase of sporting and athletic prowess, which means some late-night and early-morning viewing for us in Aotearoa.But what sports ...
The photograph is striking and beautiful, but also disturbing – a reminder that my love for John was often entangled in shame.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.In the spring of 1980, in Dunedin, shortly before his death, someone took a photograph ...
Get to know Babushka, our latest Dog of the Month. This feature was offered as a reward during our What’s Eating Aotearoa PledgeMe campaign. Thank you to Babu’s humans, Jo and Isabel, for their support. Dog name: Babushka (Babu for short) Age: 2Breed: Border Collie X poodleIf rescued, ...
Pacific Media Watch A Lebanese photojournalist who was severely wounded during an Israeli air strike in south Lebanon carried the Olympic torch in Paris this week in honour of her peers who have been wounded and killed in the field — especially in Gaza and Lebanon. Christina Assi of Agence ...
The first report in a five-part web series focused on the 15th Triennial Conference of Pacific Women taking place in the Marshall Islands this week.SPECIAL REPORT:By Netani Rika in Majuro Women continue to fight for justice 70 years after the first nuclear tests by the United States caused ...
Christopher Luxon has joined with Australia and Canada's leaders in voicing support for US President Joe Biden's ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The 2022 election brought the “teal wave” into parliament. The next election will test whether teals, who occupy what were Liberal seats, and other independents can maintain their momentum. Joining us on the Podcast ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Musgrave, Senior lecturer in Pharmacology, University of Adelaide Pixavri/Shutterstock A major Federal Court class action has been dismissed this week after Justice Michael Lee ruled there was not enough evidence to prove the weedkiller Roundup causes cancer. Plaintiff Kelvin ...
In The Week in Politics: politicians have to decide what to do about child abuse, Health NZ is booked in for major surgery and Darleen Tana returns. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Clare Corbould, Associate Professor, Contemporary Histories Research Group, Deakin University Mainstream media are surprisingly muted at the prospect of the world’s most powerful nation being led for the first time by a woman – specifically a woman of colour, Vice President Kamala ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rebecca Bennett, PhD Student, Associate Research Fellow, Deakin University Last week, a drone delivery company called Wing (owned by Google’s parent company, Alphabet) started operating in Melbourne. Some 250,000 residents in parts of the city’s eastern suburbs can now order food from ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jonathan Foo, Lecturer, Physiotherapy, Monash University pikselstock/Shutterstock In the next 40 years in Australia, it’s predicted the number of Australians aged 65 and over will more than double, while the number of people aged 85 and over will more than triple. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Katrina Grant, Research Associate, Power Institute for Arts and Visual Culture, University of Sydney Jonas Åkerström’s 1790 work, Session of the Accademia dell’Arcadia on August 17 1788.Nationalmuseum/Cecilia Heisser Ever wondered whether you’d have a better chance at winning an Olympic gold ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Alexandra Jones, Program Lead, Food Governance, George Institute for Global Health wavebreakmedia/Shutterstock On Thursday, Australian and New Zealand food ministers at state, federal and national levels met to thrash out what’s next for health star ratings on packaged foods. Now, after ...
The Abuse in Care report found many Pacific survivors lost their connections to their culture and language, resulting in trauma that has been carried from generation to generation. ...
In the regulatory review, ECC intends to suggest that ERO focus on curriculum delivery reviews rather than the Ministry, because it’s not efficient or effective to have two agencies with radically different approaches climbing over each other. ...
Te Rūnanga Nui o Ngā Kura Kaupapa Māori invites the current government to work in partnership with them to develop a pathway forward, including the development of a parallel pathway and meaningful policy and strategy for Kura Kaupapa Māori ...
If you haven’t started watching yet, Tara Ward begs you to reconsider. This is an excerpt from our weekly pop culture newsletter Rec Room. Sign up here. In the world of New Zealand reality television, we have many gems in our crown. There’s the delicious second season of the Celebrity Treasure ...
A new poem by Fiona Kidman. The clothes of the dead I did not keep my mother’s furry red beret for long nor the stringy scarves that adorned the necks of my aunts, although I have kept tag ends of gold, the rings and trinkets they wore, the brooches no ...
The government’s announcement that it will re-open the foreshore and seabed controversy by changing the rules on recognising centuries-old Māori customary title for a third time goes against the rule of law and New Zealand values,” Mr Tipa says. ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Lioness by Emily Perkins (Bloomsbury, $25) Roarrrr! Perkins’ brilliant, award-winning, Marian-Keyes anointed, darkly funny, long ...
The 2004 Act vested ownership of the foreshore and seabed in the Crown, extinguishing any Māori claims to ownership and causing widespread outrage and protests among Māori communities. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Antje Deckert, Associate Professor (Criminology), Auckland University of Technology Getty Images Despite the connection between institutional harm and gang membership made clear in this week’s mammoth royal commission abuse-in care report, the government seems unlikely to soften its “get tough on ...
From Lewis Clareburt in the swimming to the start of the rowing – the first seven days of Paris 2024 promise to be big for New Zealand. There are few events that bring the country together quite like an Olympic Games. Nothing quite matches the excitement of getting up in ...
Groundbreaking local science just showed up in the most surprising of places: the season finale of The Kardashians. In the season five finale of The Kardashians last night, several members of the family gathered together in one of their signature empty, cream-coloured rooms to hear test results that had been ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Amin Saikal, Emeritus professor of Middle Eastern and Central Asian Studies, Australian National University The Middle East is on the brink of a possibly devastating regional war, with hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah reaching an extremely dangerous level. Washington has engaged in ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Laura Elizabeth Eades, Rheumatologist, Monash University Lupus is an inflammatory autoimmune illness, where the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks itself. Lupus can affect virtually any part of the body, although it most commonly affects the skin, joints and kidneys. The symptoms ...
A law firm that specialises in working with survivors of abuse in State care is disappointed that the Government fails to recognise that its boot camps can be directly compared to previous boot camps from the 1990s and 2000s. ...
Dying is a natural part of life, like updating your Wof or seeing your hairdresser, but without the word-of-mouth recs that help guarantee a good service. What if we changed that? Dying Reviews received by The Spinoff have had the names of organisations redacted while Hospice NZ collects further data. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jonti Horner, Professor (Astrophysics), University of Southern Queensland Mike Lewinski/Flickr, CC BY On any clear night, if you gaze skywards long enough, chances are you’ll see a meteor streaking through the sky. Some nights, however, are better than others. At ...
Despite having no bars or other designated spaces for lesbians, Auckland boasts a small but mighty lesbian museum. So how did it get here? The past 18 months has brought increasing hostility towards the queer community across Aotearoa. Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull’s anti-trans rally in Tamaki Makaurau last March led to a ...
Poneke Antifascist Coalition has invited Wellingtonians to stand in solidarity with the Kanak people at 12pm today outside the French Embassy in Wellington. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Layton, Visiting Fellow, Strategic Studies, Griffith University Drones are the signature technology of the Ukraine war. A few miniature aircraft designs were used in the war’s early days, but an incredible array of drones have now evolved. There are different types, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Mark Slee, Associate Professor, Clinical Academic Neurologist, Flinders University Francisco Gonzelez/Unsplash Migraine is many things, but one thing it’s not is “just a headache”. “Migraine” comes from the Greek word “hemicrania”, referring to the common experience of migraine being predominantly ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Lee White, Senior Lecturer and Horizon Fellow, School of Social and Political Sciences, University of Sydney Australia was slow to introduce minimum building standards for energy efficiency. The Nationwide House Energy Rating Scheme (NatHERS) only came into force in 2003. Older homes ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Steven Sherwood, Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, Climate Change Research Centre, UNSW Sydney The past century of human-induced warming has increased rainfall variability over 75% of the Earth’s land area – particularly over Australia, Europe and eastern North America, new research shows. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tony Heynen, Program Coordinator, Sustainable Energy, The University of Queensland A temporary stadium in the Champ-de-Mars, ParisEkaterina Pokrovsky/Shutterstock As Paris prepares to host the Olympic and Paralympic Games, the sustainability of the event is coming under scrutiny. The organisers have promoted ...
A night of karaoke and community in a pub that feels like a memory. You’d barely even notice it, unless you knew to look. Tucked away behind a liquor store on busy Constable Street is the capital’s last great pub. Newtown Sports Bar is an emblem of the pub culture ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Wright, Professor in Marine Geology, University of Canterbury Louise Corcoran/Getty Images The decline in the number of doctoral candidates at New Zealand universities is a worrying sign for the country’s effort to build a knowledge-based economy. Aotearoa New Zealand’s ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Laurie Berg, Associate Professor, University of Technology Sydney defotoberg/Shutterstock Migrant worker exploitation is entrenched in workplaces across Australia. Tragically, a deep fear of immigration consequences means most unlawful employer conduct goes unreported. On Wednesday, however, the government officially launched a ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Vaughan Cruickshank, Senior Lecturer in Health and Physical Education, University of Tasmania Paris is about to host its third summer Olympics. While we don’t yet know what the legacy of this year’s games will be, let’s take the opportunity to reflect on ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Hugh Breakey, Deputy Director, Institute for Ethics, Governance & Law, Griffith University In the wake of the assassination attempt on former US President Donald Trump, there were calls from bothsides of US politics, as well as internationally, to reduce the brutal, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Keith Rathbone, Senior Lecturer, Modern European History and Sports History, Macquarie University Two high-profile assaults on Australians in Paris have raised concerns about security ahead of the Olympic Games. On Saturday evening, a young woman was allegedly sexually assaulted by a ...
Dying is inevitable and, so it seems, is it costing a lot, writes Stewart Sowman-Lund in today’s extract from The Bulletin. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign up here.The cost of dying ...
The government took Joyce Harris's first baby and sent her off to a girls' home. Half a century on - and out of oceans of hurt - it asked her to be a mother figure. ...
It’s the deadliest fictional town in the country, but which death has been the most bonkers? Alex Casey looks back at 10 seasons of The Brokenwood Mysteries to find out. Warning: The following ranking story contains famous New Zealand actors appearing to be dead (not alive). The Spinoff has been ...
Water cremation is the biggest thing to happen to the death industry in the last 100 years. Alex Casey meets the people trying to bring it to Aotearoa. Through a set of mirrored doors down the industrial end of Christchurch’s St Asaph Street, death is getting a new lease on ...
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Gilmore has been under fire for his treatment of a waiter in Hanmer Springs last month, and his accounts since of what happened.
Key stepped up the pressure yesterday. “If he can’t reconcile what happened on that night in the way that he’s described it to me then the answer would have to be yes,” he said.
“In the end to make a contribution you have to have integrity, and to have integrity there has to be a directness and fullness in your answers.”
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How does he say this shit with a straight face?
Integrity, directness and fullness in answers?
Obviously a big believer in do as I say, not as I do.
The one who should be under massive pressure to resign should be Key. Gilmore, as the last man on the list and without support, is dispensable. Key is quite prepared to throw him to the wolves to assuage public taste.
To quote Bomber Bradbury: “What a piece of work our prime minister is.”
How long was that list?
http://thestandard.org.nz/an-honest-man/
Maybe Key just wants to keep this issue going to divert the MSM from the GCSB Bill, MRP sale failure, etc.
I wondered also Karol, but it’s a no-win. Gilmore is making Key look impotent as a leader. I rather suspect instead the media are more interested in this grubby story than the big issues.
I hope Gilmore stays. He’s not done anything worth firing (name dropping is a punishing offence, if he’d acted on it that’s firing stuff).
This Aaron belongs Hair
Yeah, some quote about “looking NZers in the face”.
Some people are compulsive liars. Gilmore is just modelling himself on the master of it all.
The corporate media are quite capable of distracting the folk of NZ without Key’s help.
Why now, thanks to the Herald, we have a new talking point. ……George Pie. The NZ Herald look like they’re operating as McDonald’s PR and marketing tool now.
for a man who “does not drink whiskey”, Key sure is developing a blue-tinged nose.
This is from the archives. It shows that not much has changed over the last three years….
Radio NZ newsreader openly expresses disgust at Israeli propaganda
Tuesday 13 July 2010
I listened to Lloyd Scott read the 5 a.m. news on National Radio. Scott is a sensitive and intelligent man, and he was clearly affected by having to read the following: “An Israeli military investigation into its own killing of nine peace workers has found there were errors of planning, intelligence and coordination but the killings were justified. It also rejected calls for an independent inquiry, saying that it would have been biased.” As he read this last sentence out, his voice rose in dismay.
He read some more items and then the weather forecast. Then, several minutes later, Scott returned to the item about the “inquiry” into the murder of nine peace activists. He said: “That last bit really gets me, you know. Especially the last sentence: ‘An independent inquiry would have been biased.’ Does that mean the Israeli report into their own killing of peace activists was NOT biased?’
Scott’s open disagreement with the content of his script was unusual. Other newsreaders and journalists on New Zealand radio and television often indicate their dissent at having to read out what are often little more than propaganda broadcasts and PR releases for Israel, but they are usually forced to be a little more circumspect. Greg Boyed on TV1 is adept at raising an eyebrow to undermine the nonsense he is forced to read out, and Peter Williams, Alastair Wilkinson, Cameron Bennett, Mark Crysell, Warwick Burke as well as many other newsreaders have clearly struggled to hide their visceral disgust at Israeli brutality and criminality while being forced to read words that have been crafted by others to disguise or excuse it.
More dependably servile this morning was the BBC’s Adam Mynott, who read out the official Israeli statement without betraying even a quiver of emotion.
Interestingly, the BBC’s news coverage of this latest Israeli outrage—not only murdering unarmed civilians, but murdering sense itself by calling the murderers “brave” and their unarmed victims “aggressors”—was followed, a couple of items later, by the announcement that Sudan’s President Bashir has a warrant out for his arrest—for war crimes and crimes against humanity. It is not insignificant that these items were separated—somebody at the BBC obviously decided it would have been too embarrassing for Israel to have the two items juxtaposed, therefore highlighting the absurd gulf in treatment of the two outlaw regimes.
One wonders if the BBC would read out a self-serving justification of the Janjaweed militia’s depredations in the same dutifully “neutral” manner as it read out Giora Eiland’s preposterous “report”.
As much as many on here are enjoying the Aaron Gilmore situation, it seems to me that we are unable to remove list Mp’s who prove themselves to be complete arseholes who seem to be solely in it for the ego trip and the pay packet. (Whilst I accept you could argue there are many unsuitable list Mp’s and who they are is probably dependent on which side of the spectrum you are on)
I would propose that we make list MP’s subject to employment law so in the case that someone behaves like a complete pillock there is a process where they can be removed or formally warned about there behavior.
The power to initiate proceedings could perhaps sit with the speaker or clerk and any Mp who felt the process was unfair could seek remedy in the employment court.
Someone like Gilmore could be for example removed for bringing parliament into disrepute whilst someone Brendan Horan would perhaps be able to remain as an independent as there have been no charges or anything provable that I am aware of.
Whilst we don’t want a party leader to be able to give a list mp the arse just because they disagree on something we do need a mechanism to remove one that proves to be entirely unsuitable. Parties would still be free to kick an mp out of the party but it would be out of their control as to whether or not they are allowed to remain as an independant.
It’d help if political parties ensured they had good reason to believe the people they put on their lists are capable of being competent MPs.
hypothetical scenario time:
Perhaps a regulatory body could set up a little test for incoming MP’s, or those wanting to be. Undertaken by a suitably qualified Polygraph expert. 🙂
1: As an MP, Who do you work for?
2: In the House, will you vote for what is best for the Country or best for your Party?
3: Do you have the ability to work honestly on non-partisan issues?
perhaps others have some ideas for further questions ?
Are you a dick?
Are you sure?
Should we believe you?
Is your mother good friends with my mother ?
has anyone heard details about Aaron Gilmore getting on the Nat list because of his father’s close friendship with Mr Slippery PM ??
“It’d help if political parties ensured they had good reason to believe the people they put on their lists are capable of being competent MPs.”
Especially key, when the nats are so good at finding the right people to be spy bosses and race relations commissioners.
Hey 19. Still Mobile across the Atlantic
or riding a one-track Houston your Grace,
Crank it Up.Land Ho! for The handsome Changeling.
Basslines. simultaneous Doors with our names in Electrolites
Baling out before we meet The Reapers’ four whisker cuts
Sleeptalkin’, Sidewalkin’, J-Hawking
No More Heroes anymore, just a dear suck of the pong
Spinning The Circle Blackwards, Toogood
Page Who “only love can bring the rain”.
To The War In Spain. It Starts and Ends With You
per Suede;It’s so easy getting through these times
If you don’t have the answer you don’t have to lie”.
“Too many people going Underground”
“going 60 miles an hour”
So Fast So Numb
the scratch by twitching it! 😉
“Hey 19. Still Mobile across the Atlantic
or riding a one-track Houston your Grace,
Crank it Up.Land Ho! for The handsome Changeling.”
Command, I’m showing Green across the board. HLM, initiate launch sequence on my mark… Mark.
Storeee 😀
Lol, sadly not yet. I’ve just got a fertile imagination to match my faith in Human (r)evolution.
“I got soul, but I’m not a soldier”
One More Son
“All these things that I’ve done”
I’m getting tired, but I do it ’cause I have to.
Ta 😉
Just need to bring back the Waka Jumping law then any list MP who misbehaves can be kicked out of the party and loses their seat at the same time.
Someone who comes into parliament via the list is there because the party was voted for, not them. This means that if they stay on as an independent the party has lost part of the representation that it was voted which would be an injustice.
Then we need the power of recall so that electorate MPs can be kicked out by their constituents.
Agreed. I can’t see any good reason for a list MP to stay once they change party. In fact, this should probably apply to electorate MPs as well. I suspect most of them get in on a party vote. Recall would be a great idea, with maybe a 90 day option on beginner’s rates.
“Just need to bring back the Waka Jumping law then any list MP who misbehaves can be kicked out of the party and loses their seat at the same time.”
Except we need MPs with conscience to be able to vote against their party. Remember Marilyn Waring?
Stuff.co has posted Gilmore’s “inappropriate” emails from where he previously worked:
http://static.stuff.co.nz/files/AaronGilmoreEmails.pdf
Exactly, Hence making it subject to employment law, Basically you have to be a complete tit that would in any reasonable case get the arse card. Simply disagreeing would not be one of those reasons…
But wouldn’t voting against one’s party’s legislation be akin to publicly and directly working against the wishes of one’s employer? It’s not about simply disagreeing with them, it’s about taking actions that fundamentally undermine your employer’s main business.
If the person can’t represent the party’s wishes then they probably shouldn’t be there anyway and kicking someone out is up to the party, not the leader of the party.
Marilyn Waring didn’t leave NAct. I can’t see any problem with conscience votes. Confidence and supply could cause problems.
No, but under MMP with waka hopping legislation, and the suggestions being made here, she could have been forced out of parliament. The National Party would simply have kicked her out of the party.
And parties have whips to prevent the politicians from voting out of line.
Key blames MMP for not being able to sack Gilmore – if Gilmore was a FPP MP Would Key really truly sack the dickhead and force a bye election? Why doesn’t the media ask him that ?
Indeed.
Ok, news from the internal ranks are now that trying to dump Aaron has not quite worked and could have been better handled. If required, Key will take another angle, play it down and shrug it off. Aaron was getting talked to about shutting up and staying low. Key and Dipstick want next week to be about the budget.
It’s a bullshit distinction he’s making anyway. List MPs, just like any other MPs, are sent to parliament according to the will of the voters.
In Gilmore’s case, by every single fuckwit who party-voted National in 2011.
I wonder how many of those people are now basking in their promised ‘brighter future.’
If you vote for a slogan, what do you expect?
“If you vote for a slogan, what do you expect?”
Unfortunately, thanks to a dysfunctional media, and aided and abetted by politicians and political parties, that’s all that many are capable of these days.
Brand Election
It ain’t gonna change till people get their “brand” spirit back as well as a few basic “learnings” * such as the value of protest, questioning and critique, and the realisation that (as someone once said) – democracy is only as good as its opposition.
* or until they’re directly affected by any adverse effects, the result of those they elected (or DIDN’t elect)
Well yeah, but in Gilmore’s case there’s the added wrinkle that he didn’t get in based on the vote on election day. He’s a legitimate MP, but he’s there because National sent Lockwood to London.
National put him on the list, National knew he was next on the list when the sent Lockwood north.
I always find that argument to be a bit hollow. No votes, or doesn’t vote, for a party based on their list past about the first 20-30 people on it.
they do that largely because they are sold the idea that the Party has a leadership which many folk assume to mean the Party has made an intelligent and reasoned selection of the best available candidates for the positions on the list.
This is proving to be an increasingly misguided understanding of what actually happens
Even if true, which you can’t know (there are some fucking tragics out there I tell you what), it doesn’t matter.
The fact is that MPs are elected off the list. They are duly elected MPs, like any other.
Saying the party should have a retroactive veto over an MP’s status is just as fucked up for list MPs as it is for electorate MPs. Most voters, I’d be prepared to wager, vote for electorate MPs based on their party affiliation. If that wasn’t the case, then we wouldn’t have safe seats, we wouldn’t see nationwide swings against a party reflected in electorate results, and we’d see more, (or indeed even some) independent MPs.
So the same aergument that applies to List MPs applies to electorate ones. If you can throw out a list MP because it turns out you don’t like them for some reason, then why not an electorate MP. this bullshit about how ‘oh but they were elected as an M<P off their own merits" is belied by history and reason.
When was the last time an electorate MP who was kicked out of the party, or not reselected, voted back in as an independent?
+1 PB. Slippery slope to start shoving out MPs who were fairly elected because we ‘don’t like’ them. Gilmore’s not committed a crime (apparently). Neither did Horan. The media has tried them. I hope Gilmore stays.
Because the owners of the media does not like MMP because it is too democratic ; sometimes this means it does not guarantee a pliant government for their continuing plunder of the country.
Nope, because he can’t. He could, possibly, remove him from the party but that’s about it. Philip Field was removed from the party but Labour couldn’t remove him from parliament.
So what is the difference re John Key’s bitching about MMP here?
Key is just bitching about his inability to hold his MPs to account. It’s got nothing to do with MMP. Labour had a list MP resign from their position when they were accused of impropriety.
Sure, Key would find it easier if he could legally fire Gilmore but the fact is that the problem is Key’s lack of standing within National itself.
Yep. John Key sets the example of rorting the system, lying to get what you want, and generally playing everyone. Then he expects the narcissistic sociopaths he brings in as useful idiots to act with integrity and resign when things go pear-shaped.
This is no different from First Past the Post is it? Couldn’t sack an MP then so it is not MMPs fault Mr Key!
The PM says the sale of assets has been a “triumph”.
113 000 people. 3% of the population.
Maybe he should have amended this to “a triumph for me, my rich mates and the corporations who put me in power.”
FIFY Mr Key.
He’s got 1.3B of money off people for an asset they already own, you bet it’s a triumph for a big swinging dick Banksta like shonkey.
Triumph….2000 or 2500? Bit of a dog wouldn’t you say?
stick with Tridents and Speed Triples
It was a triumph – for the rich. It was a hell of a loss for the rest of us.
Idly flicking through some of Sir Alex Ferguson’s best quotes and this one stood out. Talking to his former player Paul Ince, who had just got his first big managerial job, Fergie offered this piece of wisdom:
“The only advice I can give you is don’t let players take the mickey out of you.”
Think Key, think Gilmore.
In football, they talk about losing the dressing room; that is, the gaffer’s authority goes from absolute to absolutely zero the moment they start taking the piss out of him. I suspect Key lost the dressing room yesterday when Gilmore turned up in Parliament and Key couldn’t do a damn thing about it.
What nonsense. Key is as hamstrung by MMP as Fergie has been by player contracts.
What has Fergie done in the past when a player has behaved like a nob to the point he doesn’t want them around anymore. He puts them in the corner and ignores them untill their contract expires or they get the hint and fuck off.
Nice to see your ignorance extends to football, KK. Famously Ferguson actually sells or loans out players who annoy him ASAP. Check Cantona, Keane, Beckham, C. Ronaldo and a host of lesser lights. All gone in a heartbeat.
Ferguson doesn’t let them stink up the joint making him look bad. Which is my point about Key. He is stuck with the Gilmore curls in his particular dressing room, and has no way of getting him out. Gilmore is going to be a daily reminder to the rest of the blue team that Key has no effective power to discipline them, because the majority in Parliament is so tight, he can’t take the risk.
So compare those actions with Clarke and Taito Field, a great lesson in leadership there , not.
Field was told to resign from Parliament and expelled from the Labour Party, but Gilmore’s offence is political, not criminal, so the comparison has limited usefulness.
“Field was told to resign from Parliament and expelled from the Labour Party”. but lets be honest, it took wee while didn’t it. Not exactly following TRP’s model of fast determined leadership.
Yes it did but there’s a difference between a consensual political environment and a dictatorial corporate environment.
What environment are you applying to labour? Fast acting determined leadership ie Man U as detailed by TRP. Or the Carter / Field scenario as detailed by history?
I thought that would have been apparent even to idiots like you.
So?
I thought Key said he was better than labour?
In Key’s National party, he sits above the fray saying there’s nothing he can do, while National party minions feed the press with threats of what will come out next if he doesn’t resign, making mention of the guy’s family.
Thug life eh?
Bone Thugs, then Harmony.
Yeah, due process and fair treatment can be a bitch like that.
It was a very long time indeed.
As a matter of fact he never did resign from Parliament and remained an MP until he was defeated in the 2008 election.
So much for a “determined” Helen Clark getting him to do anything.
He got kicked out of the party and that was all that could be done. The problem that you’re identifying is that the electorate couldn’t kick him out until the next election which they subsequently did hence the need for recall.
You are quite right that that was all that could be done.
However I would note that it took at least a year before even that was done and it appeared at the time to be an enraged reaction from HC to the fact that Field had upstaged an announcement she was going to make by saying he would stand against Labour in the next election.
On the other hand I note that at about midday today you seem to be saying that Key’s inability to do what she failed to do is “Excuses, excuses” See your own post at 6.1.2 just below this.
Key’s blaming MMP and that isn’t the problem at all. The immediate problem is that Key or the caucus has no control of an individual MP which is a matter of standing within that party. Labour had a similar issue and they got their list MP to resign so it can be done it’s just that Key/National can’t do it.
Excuses, excuses – exactly what I’ve come to expect from National and its sycophants.
TRP, how long will it take for the nation’s dressing room to lose confidence in the PM?
Fascinating to see Colin King, the National MP for Kaikoura, and another poor performer, laughing with Gilmore in the House yesterday. (I wonder, as an aside, whether Colin King sent a message of sympathy to his threatened and disrespected constituent in Hanmer? If I was that hotel worker seeing his MP laughing with his abuser, I’d be highly pissed off.) Gilmore was also laughing with another MP to the seat to his left.
It did not look like Gilmore had been sent to Coventry by his colleagues- either that, or a new spirit of generous forgiveness has overtaken the National back bench.
Contrast that with John Key in interview saying that Gilmore’s return to caucus or membership of the list or party could scarcely be tolerated.
Well spotted, mac1. I note too that Tau Henare, another disaffected Nat, has been acting as Gilmore’s minder in the house.
It can’t have escaped the attention of Key’s MP’s that chiding Gilmore for being shifty is a bit rich coming from a bloke whose every utterance is untrustworthy. And there will be a few of them who don’t even understand what Gilmore did wrong in the first place, given that he was just behaving as a born to rule Tory is supposed to when being given cheek by their lessers.
As for the country’s confidence, well, I’d say Key has now moved into Arsene Wenger territory; still respected but tarnished by his failure to actually win anything worth winning in recent years. Taxi for Mr Key?
Remembering Margaret Thatcher
1. She supported the retention of capital punishment
2. She destroyed the country’s manufacturing industry
3. She voted against the relaxation of divorce laws
4. She abolished free milk for schoolchildren (“Margaret Thatcher, Milk Snatcher”)
5. She supported more freedom for business (and look how that turned out)
6. She gained support from the National Front in the 1979 election by pandering to the fears of immigration
7. She gerrymandered local authorities by forcing through council house sales, at the same time preventing councils from spending the money they got for selling houses on building new houses (spending on social housing dropped by 67% in her premiership)
8. She was responsible for 3.6 million unemployed – the highest figure and the highest proportion of the workforce in history and three times the previous government. Massaging of the figures means that the figure was closer to 5 million
9. She ignored intelligence about Argentinian preparations for the invasion of the Falkland Islands and scrapped the only Royal Navy presence in the islands
10. The poll tax
11. She presided over the closure of 150 coal mines; we are now crippled by the cost of energy, having to import expensive coal from abroad
12. She compared her “fight” against the miners to the Falklands War
13. She privatised state monopolies and created the corporate greed culture that we’ve been railing against for the last 5 years
14. She introduced the gradual privatisation of the NHS
15. She introduced financial deregulation in a way that turned city institutions into avaricious money pits
16. She pioneered the unfailing adoration and unquestioning support of the USA
17. She allowed the US to place nuclear missiles on UK soil, under US control
18. Section 28
19. She opposed anti-apartheid sanctions against South Africa and described Nelson Mandela as “that grubby little terrorist”
20. She support the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and sent the SAS to train their soldiers
21. She allowed the US to bomb Libya in 1986, against the wishes of more than 2/3 of the population
22. She opposed the reunification of Germany
23. She invented Quangos
24. She increased VAT from 8% to 17.5%
25. She had the lowest approval rating of any post-war Prime Minister
26. Her post-PM job? Consultant to Philip Morris tobacco at $250,000 a year, plus $50,000 per speech
27. The Al Yamamah contract
28. She opposed the indictment of Chile’s General Pinochet
29. Social unrest under her leadership was higher than at any time since the General Strike
30. She presided over interest rates increasing to 15%
31. BSE
32. She presided over 2 million manufacturing job losses in the 79-81 recession
33. She opposed the inclusion of Eire in the Northern Ireland peace process
34. She supported sanctions-busting arms deals with South Africa
35. Cecil Parkinson, Alan Clark, David Mellor, Jeffrey Archer, Jonathan Aitkin
36. Crime rates doubled under Thatcher
37. Black Wednesday – Britain withdraws from the ERM and the pound is devalued. Cost to Britain – £3.5 billion; profit for George Soros – £1 billion
38. Poverty doubled while she opposed a minimum wage
39. She privatised public services, claiming at the time it would increase public ownership. Most are now owned either by foreign governments (EDF) or major investment houses. The profits don’t now accrue to the taxpayer, but to foreign or institutional shareholders.
40. She cut 75% of funding to museums, galleries and other sources of education
41. In the Thatcher years the top 10% of earners received almost 50% of the tax remissions
42. 21.9% inflation
Enough?
Why don’t you just provide the link ?
Prediction: MRP shares are going to go high because of overseas demand.
http://news.msn.com/us/for-some-detroit-services-call-the-diy-dept
I don’t know when you added the spell and other similar auto-checks to the commenting function, LPrent, but thanks 😀
The Electoral Commission has published the 2012 donation returns from registered political parties. They appear to reveal a major breach of electoral law by the Labour Party.
Donations over $15,000 only have to be disclosed annually, but donations over $30,000 must be disclosed within 10 working days of receipt.
Labour’s return shows they received $430,259.33 from the estate of Brian Dalley (ironically a professional property investor who made his riches from capital gains) between April and July 2012. They were required to disclose this to the Electoral Commission within 10 working days, but the Commissions say they were only notified on 9 May 2013. Their disclosure is 12 months late.
You mean to say Labour may have broken electoral law? Well blow me down with a pledge card.
Yeah it’s more uselessness.
Weird though. What’s with you clowns when you pop in with the latest thing you are excited about and you can’t be arsed with linking?
Is it eagerness to be frst!, just can’t delay hitting submit for the time it takes to C&P a link?
UnPCNZCougar there couldn’t even be arsed typin the comment, just cut and pasted DPF’s post:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/05/labour_hides_430000_donation_for_over_a_year.html
tools.
Very sorry to have offended you Pascal. Duly noted. Will make sure I do that next time.
Yes, it is unusual to be eager here at The Standard. Perhaps you could do that for all eager posts without references in your polite manner and we will all learn to behave.
Don’t “behave”
But maybe put forward some original thinking, if you can be bothered to come up with something yourself.
Sure Colonial. As much as I don’t like John Banks and I do believe he knew about the donations, this oversight of some $400k makes life difficult for Labour to walk the moral high ground. And I seriously wonder wtf is wrong with the lot of them. I believe that all this nonsense that is thrown around in the mainstream media just turns voters off, hence I think as I have said before it encourages apathy as a virtue. Unless something drastic happens in the next 18 months I doubt that voter turnout is going to improve at the next election.
My husband decided a couple of years ago to become apolitical as he was over it. To the point that during local body elections he gives me the form to fill out and I had to make him go and vote last election.
Voters will rally behind politicians with great convictions. That we do not have at the moment from any party.
Not offended cougar. Just curious.
I’d never think to just plagiarise something.
“Yes, it is unusual to be eager here at The Standard. Perhaps you could do that for all eager posts without references in your polite manner and we will all learn to behave.”
Do you understand the difference (technically and ethically) between posting without references, and plagiarism?
Yes I do. It was an error and I apologise. Happens to the best sometimes too. Perhaps you too could help everyone behave by pointing these things out every time they happen. Have a great weekend.
Lol
Shades of gilmour’s shifting apology
What a joke, there are two options, either they are so incompetent and thick that it didnt occur that it may be considered a donation and should be declared within the ten days or they decided to try and hide it deliberately. Presumably they are just incompetent and thick which is only slightly better than being deliberate. With this and Shrearer forgetting his US account Labour have lost any integrity critiquing Banks, in both cases it could hardly be worse, it wasn’t a back bench MP that forgot to put something on the register it was the leader, and it wasn’t a small donation a little over the limit it was 400k+, I’m astonished they just can’t get the basics right and while they keep messing it up they give the NATZ free rein to wreck havoc, pathetic.
Local Boy Tim Flannery on Climate Change.
He has that relaxed conversational style aussies are good at but describes some sobering facts about the great changes happening on our Planet:
http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/76153
Unacceptable
Quoted in full as it was short enough.
Going to have to agree with I/S on that. It is unacceptable and Labour better cough up one way or the other.
What has happened to our party?
This is disgraceful and absolutley indefensible.
How the hell does this happen.
It just makes us look like fools when challenging the government for their continuing incompetence and corruption.
Heads must roll over this.
Well, yes, but only of people want to believe that any entity inside the current political sham, could possibly be a part of any turn around, for NZ!
Relax guys, we’ll just say “We haven’t read that report,” and everything will be fine.
Perhaps it is time for a central processor for party donation deposits. Run the whole thing through Kiwi Bank which has full integration with all necessary banking services. People cruise in, pick up their Party Donation card, fill in the details as per anonymity/disclosure rules and whambam a much more open and accountable system. Party event bucket collections and donations of smaller figures can be processed as they currently are, as block donations, and are deposited usually within a few days of collection anyway. All larger donations are transferred or deposited via the register as they arrive. On line Banking of course makes it even simpler. Even the great PayWave [the RFID scammers wunderkind] can be easily adopted to the process.
Each registered Party supplies the central body with one bank account number and all funds get deposited into that specific account. The account deposit details are cross fed to a public register that is automatically updated. This simple operation already exists in all banking/payment transaction services, so the systems are in place to do it. The question is does the will exist?
Why will people poo poo this common sense resolution to transparency in our democracy?
Simply because there is no good reason for it not to be implemented.
Good idea but doubt it will happen. Such a system surely would require some outside auditing. Imagine the Nat consternation knowing some of their shadiest donation deals might become known and get into the public arena. They would crawl over broken glass with bare feet and hands to stop any law requiring such a system.
My best answer to what happened is similar to the revelation a couple of years ago that Labour did not have a secure email system and the ‘slimy one’ ended up with members’ personal details. In other words, the left hand still doesn’t know what the right hand is doing.
To be fair it’s another example why political parties need to be funded from the public purse. It’s well known Labour’s Head Office is under-funded and under-staffed.
with an open donation deposit scheme such as outlined above the auditing is as straightforward as it gets. One account per party, regardless of where the money comes from, is an auditor’s dream. It matters not if the deposits are physical or electronic, there is no way to avoid the required protocols, regardless of amount, the depositor or the Party.
I/S has just added an update to this post on NRT
Update: According to NewstalkZB’s Felix Marwick, the Electoral Commission has accepted Labour’s excuse of “confusion as to whether a bequest counts as a donation” and there will be no referral to police. So the law means nothing again. What is the point of electoral law if it is never enforced?
What the hell else could it be?
To make it look like our democracy is upstanding?
Labour plays the same game as NAct and Farrar is just jealous because he thinks his Tories are entitled to that money. I don’t expect Labour to be paragons of virtue, but I would like them to get an inspiring leader so they can contribute to the next coalition government.
But yeah, this is an unforgivable level of incompetence.
You know, this was definitely a time when the left wanted the media to stop hammering Key’s lying bullshit. Providing another gobsmacking example of the Labour Party’s inability to manage money will totally win back those centrist voters.
Greens appear to bear the Integrity
The $40k fine was intended to be labour’s way of foreshadowing a bequest tax? 🙂
There are serious attempts by the NAct Govt to promote Northland as a “mecca” for gold and silver mining, plus oil drilling in the seas off the coastline. We believe both will have a disastrous effect on the environment in the north, and could well be very damaging to the farming and tourism industries already in existence. The following article – published the other day in the local daily paper – gives you some idea of what we are up against. And with our current govt changing first The Crown Minerals Act, and next the Resource Management Act, to make it much, much easier for mining companies to come in and do their work without regard for the environment, or for the adverse social consequences that will flow on from there, we have quite a battle on our hands.
This message is just to let you know what is going on (ie all the people who read and post on The Standard). I will keep you informed of developments.
Jenny Kirk
Puhipuhi Mining Action Group
” Spectre of pollution ”
Nickie Muir
8th May 2013 Northern Advocate
“Last month far away in a village not unlike Whangarei, something extraordinary happened. The Argentine town of Esquel celebrated 10 years of community solidarity, sustainability and true democracy.
“Thousands of people came out onto the streets to remember an unlikely victory for a town of only 30,000 people, against toxic mining that had threatened their town water supply. To understand what is so remarkable about this is to know that Argentina was in economic meltdown and unemployment was three times as high as what Northland’s is today.
“In 2003 the massive open pit mine in Catamarca – the Alumbrera, in the north, was still being hailed as the gold bullet which would save the economy (it took until this February for a massive uprising of illiterate small holding farmers there to rebel against contamination in the air and waterways).
“Esquel is also at the other end of the country from where decisions get made.
“But Esquel proved problematic for the mining PR men mainly because unlike their countrymen to the north, the residents are the educated middle class escaping the capital to establish environmentally sustainable businesses around the natural resources there. Instead of taking the environmental impact report from the mining company at face value the residents hired scientists from the University of Patagonia and found that the original EIR was deeply flawed.
“They formed an apolitical neighbourhood association to better inform the community of the true costs of the mine as well as looking at a hard business case for it.
“Consultation with the company broke down over a lack of integrity in the discussions. Namely, the mine sued residents over a leaked tape of PR and mining execs discussing “hiring community leaders to sway opinion and persuade hard liners” to accept the mine and it’s proximity to the waterways despite the environmental risks. This upset more than a few and more than 8000 people turned out to protest. The mayor – sensing a tide change – called for a referendum to decide whether or not the mine would go ahead and 81 per cent of the people of Esquel voted against the mine and eventually passed a local bill banning all toxic mining in the province.
“Esquel’s solidarity inspired other small communities throughout Latin America but it also became a case study for mining companies to ensure that it didn’t happen again. There was too much lead time for the community to get informed – they were educated and organised. Esquel and its fishing, skiing and national parks are today a thriving centre of sustainable business based on the vision of the genuine community leaders from 10 years ago.
“De Grey has exploration rights now in two areas – the sparsely populated, arid and impoverished province of Santa Cruz in Argentina, and rights to 6000ha 30km north of Whangarei, in Puhipuhi.
“There has been no clear public information on whether this area is in the catchment for the town water supply. The Ngati Hau report on behalf of Fonterra states that the Waiariki Stream in Puhipuhi is already high in mercury “to a level that indicates that adverse effects of mercury on the biota living within the sediments could potentially occur frequently”. Ironic that De Grey’s info pack on Puhipuhi has dairy cows on the cover.
“There is no mention in Stephen Joyce’s Economic Activity Report on how toxic mining could affect the production of Northland’s real white gold – milk powder. Or that it regularly floods there.
” Instead, local politicians and PR men tell those who ask to “trust us – we know what we’re doing”. They told the residents of Catamarca and Esquel the same.”
an illustration for perspective of how serious this situation is
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash/65683_503063696417793_1597992975_n.jpg
locals report closed roads and hundreds if not thousands of trees have already been felled
here is a FB group that I understand to be run by a local
https://www.facebook.com/mininginnorthland
Thanks Freedom – that map is a different one from others we have – so its really useful to have.
Jenny
Christine Rankin. Families Commissioner and newly appointed CEO of The Conservative Party.
Conflict of interest much?
is that a late April fool’s joke?
Nope.
prayerfully, another nail in their earlobes.(salmon on toast repeated as I read this).
Well done “Steve” + collegue from Work and Income Willis St, who was seen yesterday on the streets of Wellington asking those begging for money for food if Work and Income could help – your excellence is showing!
My God, listen to this: the proposed GCSB law change and Winston Peters on “Citizen A” – Selwyn Manning and Chris Trotter.
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/
Um, this one?
Thanks Anne but now I will have nightmares! That GCSB law change is very serious but we little people are easily riled by the Gilmores or the price of pies or milk but the enormity of what faces our NZ society is too hard to manage. Perhaps Mr Gilmore is running a deliberate deflection?
42 seconds of trotter being pretty damn on to it here
http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=FRsi34awlYM&p=n#/785;823
After listening to Manning and Trotter, I think we can more than safely say… now we know why John Key was so determined to have Ian Flectcher take on the role of the GCSB boss.
thx anne, agree re Fletcher .. we are in trouble with this and it makes the TPPA even more dangerous imho
exactly, but they are all nice people in multinational corporations, they would never try to use information for influence or steal cultural or private institutions from people. I am sure Aotearoa has nothing to worry about in the TPPA, nothing at all
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/8658222/Backlash-to-Disney-trademark-attempt
Bernanke’s Neofeudal Rentier Economy
Now what does that remind me of…
Oh, that’s right, selling state assets.
Given that MRP is trading at $2.73, nearly 10% than higher the Government chosen float price, is Key going to call himself out for costing the taxpayer $170 million by undervaluing the stock? Is he going to call English and Ryall ‘wreckers’ for getting this so badly wrong?
I can’t wait for the posts on WO and the Sewer screaming ‘SABOTAGE!’. Can’t be long now ….
Because the Greens (not even bothering to count Labour) had nothing to do with the share price at all…
These are actual numbers, as opposed to speculation.
That’s not what you were saying the other day, Winston.
Winstone,
as much as political parties would like it, we do not have lifetime terms in our Parliament.
We do have [apparently] changes of government on quite a regular basis. The NZ Power announcement is the most basic mechanism that any new Government could have come up with. Such an obvious hypothesis and no doubt several others were, I am sure, all dutifully considered and priced accordingly. Any risk assessor that failed to factor such a possibility is not earning the thousands of dollars a day/hour/word they were most likely charging.
Was there a problem with the hereditary right to rule?
depends on who you star; be backward and enter forwards.
there was an issue with the ceremonial codpieces not being easily transferable to the daughter,
so they just gave power over to the people
and there were free turnips for all
but they kept the butter
Butter butlers better
They might as well speculate that the revelations of the mis-management of Solid Energy, including its being “encouraged” to borrow in order to pay larger dividends, put people off investing in a company that has this government as the major shareholder.
Julie Anne spoke eloquently to the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Act in Parliament yesterday, placing the increasing environmental risks in context.Like, the 1B government shortfall on claims for red-zoned Christchurch properties and the toxic MDF fire that continues to burn…
p.s, to correct Seven Sharp, Jesus suggested if you are gonna be a toad-in-the-hole, do it discretely.
-Matthew 6:5, And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray publicly on street corners, etc, where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get.
Synthetic clones (analogues) produced and released overnight.
The Bible – has the best quotes.
Drat. apache barfed again.
Look at the logs again tonight.
the force is with you
and you
Better the Apache barf than anything associated with the MS puke though huh?
If you arrange things nicely enough, an Apache barf can actually look quite pretty, whereas anything related to sn MS puke takes a lot of cleaning up, alongside the potential risk of litigation as to who owns the resultant psychedelic outpuke.
Barf away all Ye who have created your awesome facility, knowing as Ye do that any opposition (including garage-built, back-yard-developed memory management routines and most other functionality) has LESS to do with undeserving Bill&Melindas (with an eye for the processes of patents and the benefits of credibility-earning philanthropy), than it has do do with those that are the genuine creators of the new mankind.
Barf away as much as you like – the space is free and unincimbered with legalese and underserved rights as to ownership.
Aaron Gilmore ON CUE
Now would be a most excellent time for a journalist to ask John Key the elephant in the room question . .
How did Aaron Gilmore become a List member of the National party?
a: A Bingo game ?
b: you thought you were ringing Ian Fletcher ?
c: he is the son of your good mate in CHCH?
do we know anything about ‘c’ ? have read it elsewhere but nothing to support it … lovely if true and able to be proved !!
I have only read it here also, but surely [although probably not put forward in quite the same terms] it is a valid question to put to the Party Leader of any Party?
Claire Trevett is a marvelous ‘knucklehead’ for this .. just updated ..
Happy Gilmore in his true light … I think I shall call it Aaron Borealis
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10882819
*clap*
He has this thing about threatening peoples employment opportunities. Where the fuck does that come from?
The Wimp-Walloping continues on The Panel
Wimp: DITA DI BONI; Walloper: STEPHEN FRANKS
Radio NZ National, Friday 10 May 2013
Jim Mora’s Panel chat show has definitely returned to the mediocrity it had seemed to climb out of for a few weeks.
Today’s guests are Stephen Franks, the unspeakably cynical, hard-right Wellington lawyer and “legal adviser” to the S.S. Trust, and Dita Di Boni, a shallow columnist best known for being married to Ali Ikram. Today, as a preface to her Soapbox contribution, she giggled winsomely: “As you know, Jim, I am an avid reader of women’s magazines.”
Today, Franks is running amok, and Dita Di Boni, although she is clearly disturbed by his ranting, lacks the confidence to argue against him.
And of course, Mora laughs and offers his slobbering agreement to everything Franks says.
It’s just too, too depressing. This is what happens when you stop people like Gordon Campbell and Bomber Bradbury coming on your programme.
Mediocrity, timidity and sycophancy. What an insult to the listeners. What a wasted opportunity. What a great pity.
They never mention Frank’s political leanings – just that he’s a lawyer.
ACT got 1% of the vote.
What % of Mora’s guests are libertarian ideologues like Franks?
Hello GCSB …….enjoying reading these conversations?
“They never mention Frank’s political leanings – just that he’s a lawyer.”
If they did, they’d say his political leanings were ‘centre-right’, just as the Herald states John Banks is centre right.
It’s ACT, for goodness sake, the Herald even states that he’s the ACT leader in the article – how can that possibly be ‘centre-right’?
Morrissey: The problem with too many of you on the “left” here is your damned pre-occupation with the crap media on the right, the private side, or even with now rather government friendly RNZ!
You are with these comments and other lack of contributions only serving the damned interests of the very perpetrators you try to expose, ridicule, challenge and beat, without realising it.
The only way to defeat and take a strong stand against the commercial or non commercial RIGHT is to BLOODY WELL MAKE YOUR OWN PROGRAM!
Stop whining and whinging and use the Standard or other forums, to present, to not just discuss, to offer multimedia, like a leftist YouTube, Fakebook and more combined. So there is a damned idea. Make a program that informs, that reveals, that communicates, that presents documentaries and information of value, to counter act this commercial trash we get on the media you are unhappy with. Perhaps have a chat with Lyn Prentice and others about how to establish such alternative media, since You Tube seems to go for pay TV at request now in the US.
More can be done here too, so do not leave it to the shit media we have cater for us now. Just a desperate idea, perhaps. Sorry to upset, but I need to submit some suggestions and ideas here, I feel!
This writer, i.e. moi, received a right old ticking off from our good friend xtasy late last night. I will attempt to address his concerns as best I can…
1.) Morrissey: The problem with too many of you on the “left” here is your damned pre-occupation with the crap media on the right, the private side, or even with now rather government friendly RNZ!
That’s because I, and many others, actually think it’s important to hold their vile behaviour up for inspection. Not just ridicule, mind you, but a serious inspection of what they are up to. So, for instance, when I parse a lunatic NBR editorial by Nevil “Breivik” Gibson or a wasted hour of assiduously trivial chat on The Panel or the insulting and shameless reading out of government PR handouts masquerading as news, I do it in a spirit of seriousness, not simply to make fun of the likes of Breivik Gibson.
2.) You are with these comments and other lack of contributions only serving the damned interests of the very perpetrators you try to expose, ridicule, challenge and beat, without realising it.
Judging by the emails and public admonitions I have received from the likes of Leighton “Ummm Ahhhh” Smith, Larry “Lackwit” Williams, Kerre “Red China” Woodham, Stephen Franks and even Jim Mora himself (he once asked me if I had “any more bile for today?”), these people don’t regard me as enhancing their positions in any way.
3.) The only way to defeat and take a strong stand against the commercial or non commercial RIGHT is to BLOODY WELL MAKE YOUR OWN PROGRAM!
No thanks. I have better things to do with my time. My contributions to this and a couple of other fora take only a small amount of time. I have a job, and I have thousands of books to read. I don’t want to throw my life away just yet.
4.) Stop whining and whinging…
Excuse me? I don’t appreciate such reductive and trivialising attacks—I won’t dignify those lazy epithets by calling them criticism. That’s the kind of thoughtless, indolent stuff I hear coming from the Prime Minister.
…. and use the Standard or other forums [sic] to present, to not just discuss, to offer multimedia, like a leftist YouTube, Fakebook and more combined. So there is a damned idea. Make a program that informs, that reveals, that communicates, that presents documentaries and information of value, to counter act this commercial trash we get on the media you are unhappy with. Perhaps have a chat with Lyn Prentice and others about how to establish such alternative media, since You Tube seems to go for pay TV at request now in the US.
Okay, I’ll try. Lyn, gimme half a million bucks NOW PLEASE! I intend to make a nuclear device with it.
5.) More can be done here too, so do not leave it to the shit media we have cater for us now. Just a desperate idea, perhaps. Sorry to upset, but I need to submit some suggestions and ideas here, I feel!
I share your frustration, my friend, but I think you should take another look at my oeuvre; it doesn’t begin and end with railing against radio and television. My play scripts are, even if I do say so myself, legendary….
http://groups.google.com/group/nz.general/browse_thread/thread/12b9f5fd0ac5230f/68c61ee7dd2cb368?lnk=gst&q=bernadine+morrissey+breen#68c61ee7dd2cb368
http://www.sporttaco.com/rec.sport.rugby.union/Incident_at_Perth_Bayswater_Friday_4_June_3754.html
hidden talents, the pair of you 😀
OK, points taken are acknowledged. Thanks M!
“Sleep Talkin’
“Side Walkin’
“J-hawking”
Talk about a weighty Paradox; Neilson finds consumer confidence fall, yet card spending climbs.If in doubt, max it out!
wouldn’t it be nice to get the old fashioned reporting where credit and cash were reported seperately.
One is spending your money, one is building debt. ‘Total electonic card spending’ is pointless meaningless and dishonest reporting of expenditure.
Even spending “your own money” is nothing more than spending someone else’s debt, whether its the Government’s borrowed money, money someone got for a house funded from a mortgage, etc.
Hence our debt based monetary system. The banks have set it up so that almost no one can escape.
Voters think Tories can make tough decisions, but UK Labour “lacks courage”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/09/labour-election-victory-2015-distant-prospect
NZ Power is just a start to turning the image around…
Here’s hoping. Robertson showed himself to be an utter coward yet again – a disappointment, but not a surprise – by issuing another press release reassuring Phil O’Reilly that he’ll still obediently plaster lipstick on the neoliberal pig.
Still, if the Greens keep the pressure on, and if it dawns on the careerists that Winston Peters is not their guaranteed Deus Ex Machina and that maybe they actually – OMG – have to earn their votes instead of having them delivered by the proles as fealty, maybe, just maybe, in their dramatic, epic, legendary effort to snatch defeat from the grinning, slavering, dripping, sharp-toothed, bitey, oh my what big teeth you have jaws of victory, the party pretending to be “Labour” might actually, almost by accident, do something right and maybe even win.
I hope they keep it up. Maybe they’ll realise that this is the direction they have to follow, not trying to snatch NACT voters by being utterly indistinguishable.
Comments like this make me more afraid and convinced, that the reactionary social forces out there are rather pro “national socialist” lines of thinking than anything that used to be “traditional” “left”!
I am sorry, but I feel so many of you guys have and are losing it, you live in little political closets, and you do not have a real sense of the tensions, hatred and competition that goes on out there. I feel you are all losers, living in some past scenario that is long gone. It is now division and blood fight about rights and privileges and so forth. Traditional socialism is DEAD! Hitler’s Socialism may be the future, and I hate it.
That’s my fear too. Rather than bickering over whether the glass is half full or half empty, I’m just hoping that there’s any water left at all. “Labour’s” careerists like Shearer, Robertson et al give me little hope.
After the fracking starts, I suggest avoiding the water.
3D printed firearms back in the media…
While downloading the blueprints may not be illegal, any UK citizen who made and owned such a handgun could face arrest, according to the UK’s Metropolitan Police.
“To actually manufacture any type of firearm in the UK, you have to be a registered firearms dealer (RFD),” it said in a statement.
“Therefore, unless you are an RFD, it would most definitely be an offence to make a gun using the blueprints. It may be legal for an RFD to manufacture a gun this way, as long as they had the necessary authorities.”
One of the biggest headaches for law enforcers is the fact the gun is made from plastic – with only the firing pin made from metal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22464360
“Blueprints for 3D-Printed Liberator Gun Have Been Downloaded 100,000 Times in Just Two Days”
http://inhabitat.com/blueprints-for-3d-printed-liberator-gun-have-been-downloaded-100000-times-in-just-two-days/
Now I write some of this in CAPITALS on purpose, as I want to point out to you guys that Whaleoil seems to have an easy and special access to You Tube, he has heaps of clips loaded on that media venue, and I see none or little of other ones, when it come sot politics, current affairs and so forth, from any other blog or NZ media.
THIS IS DISTURBING! I again write this to raise awareness of the moderators here and affiliated blogs. We have an overly right wing focus on blogs and media in NZ! this is facilitated by commercial interests and government interests making available finance and more to allow this to happen. We are stuffed if we do not take a resolute position and prepare to take a stand to defend against this.
I am only commenting as an observer and part time blogger, but this is so damned serious, I hope and trust all affected will listen, read this and act upon it. Otherwise you may as well close down the “left” and let them do what they want. I am sure nobody here wants that, and I appeal especially to the so many half hearted and passive, wake bloody up and take a stand again, or you will soon face REAL DICTATORSHIP, this is NO joke!
The special access is called time. Because Cameron Slater seems to have been pretty useless at everything he has ever done outside of blogging (and even the effectiveness of that is arguable), he has time on his hands.
Whereas most of the main authors here are holding down fulltime and quite demanding jobs from the ones I know of. So this site gets done in whatever spare time we have.
Farrar is a bit different. He runs a polling company that seems to mainly have conservative political parties as it’s clients. While that gives him more control over his time than someone like I’d have, it clearly does not leave enough to spend time watching lots of YouTube. He virtually never features them. However he is also far more politically effective.
Slater appears to mainly put videos and images up to drive international visits and page views to his site from search engines. While that is probably effective at driving up his advertising revenue, its influence on the NZ political scene is minimal. Reading his site recently has become an exercise in wasting time for anyone interested in local politics.
VIVA el CHILE Socialista –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eo9coAursQ&NR=1&feature=endscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=MhwHgsUmZWw&NR=1
and more via those links, wake up NZ!
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