Open mike 11/03/2024

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  1. Gosman 1
    11 March 2024 at 9:02 am

    What I find curious about the Hurricane's womens team continuing to use their Haka before the game to make a political point is why noone in the media (that I am aware of) has raised the issue of them as employees abusing their roles. I know I have a contract that states I cannot act in a manner that brings the company I work with in to disrepute and I certainly cannot use my employers resources to make political statements. Doing so would lead to me being fired. Why should the Hurricane's woman team be able to do the same?

    • weka 1.1
      11 March 2024 at 9:18 am

      I haven't been following particularly closely, but I've seen this mentioned in the MSM (reporting what the CEO or whatever said).

    • David 1.2
      11 March 2024 at 9:19 am

      Probably for a number of reasons; they may not be seen as the average employee in the way that you or I would be seen as, when we work for a big corporation. Also, they are making political points about the government and it’s policies, in general they’re not being abusive or attacking individuals.

      Weather or not they should or shouldn’t be doing what they’re doing is between the players and their bosses.

      At the end of the day they are employed to play rugby and to win games. If they don’t win no one will take any notice.

      • Gosman 1.2.1
        11 March 2024 at 11:11 am

        Why are they not an average employee? They are paid to play the sport of Rugby Union. That is their job not to make political statements.

        • gsays 1.2.1.1
          11 March 2024 at 12:27 pm

          One key employment difference between elite sports folk and the rest of us is they are often told to 'express themselves'.

          Not being a wahine yaself I will leave their actions to them rather than heed your palangi concern.

          • Gosman 1.2.1.1.1
            11 March 2024 at 1:17 pm

            Seems like the Hurricane management might disagree with that position.

            • Drowsy M. Kram 1.2.1.1.1.1
              11 March 2024 at 2:31 pm

              And at least one former co-owner of the Hurricanes might agree with you smiley

              Hurricanes director Troy Bowker to exit franchise after firestorm over race comments [14 Aug 2021]
              Bowker this week accused Taylor on LinkedIn of "sucking up to the left Māori agenda" for supporting the name Aotearoa.

              He also sent obscenity-laced responses to people who hit out at his comments.

              Bowker had the ear of Stuart Nash during his time as a Minister in Cabinet.

            • gsays 1.2.1.1.1.2
              11 March 2024 at 4:52 pm

              Yep, not surprising, more palangi uncomfortable with some bolshie, assertive wahine Maori.

              Edit; if Winston’s getting snickerty then they are probably on the right track.

        • David 1.2.1.2
          11 March 2024 at 4:09 pm

          What I mean in this case? As part of a sport team they have a public higher profile than you or I, and a lot more people will have an opinion one way or the other which also attracts a lot of media attention. So the team management needs to handle with a lot of consideration.

          But you are right, there job is to play rugby, & to win, as well as associated stuff professional sports players do. For many, many reasons political activism should not be one of them while they are on the rugby field.

        • mikesh 1.2.1.3
          11 March 2024 at 5:21 pm

          It is not against the law to make political statements. Your employer should pull his bloody head in and mind his own business.

          • Dawn Trenberth 1.2.1.3.1
            11 March 2024 at 8:06 pm

            I would agree with you here. I make political statements in my own time. When I am on the company time wearing their badge I dont and do my job.

        • Mike the Lefty 1.2.1.4
          11 March 2024 at 6:28 pm

          Oh yes the old keep politics out of sports argument!

          Sport and politics have been one for many many years Gosman, whether you recognise it or not.

          Olympic Games, Commonwealth Games, Fifa World Cup just three examples where politics runs the show.

      • aj 1.2.2
        11 March 2024 at 12:37 pm

        Who says they are acting in a manner that brings the company into disrepute?

    • joe90 1.3
      11 March 2024 at 9:54 am

      Folau was instructed by his employer to desist. He didn't, so he was given the arse for failing to obey a lawful instruction by his employer.

      • Gosman 1.3.1
        11 March 2024 at 1:11 pm

        Kind of like how the Hurricanes had a word with the team to advise them not to do it and they then went ahead and did it again.

    • AB 1.4
      11 March 2024 at 10:49 am

      Maybe it's so obvious that their behaviour may run foul of their employment contract, that it doesn't need mentioning? I'm sure the Hurricanes management have been going over that ground right from the start. The difficulty is that their calculation is a bit more complex than if it was you doing the same. Your job (presumably) does not involve entertaining a diverse public, or require the support of sponsors and advertisers.

      In the Hurricanes case, the contract may or may not be enforced based on which better serves the interests of the organisation. It is purely a matter of which option alienates more people and causes (or risks) more financial damage – censuring and shutting the players up, or allowing them to keep doing it. So the usual imperial power of employers over employees (which you appear to relish) is somewhat weakened in this case by the public nature of the work.

      • SPC 1.4.1
        11 March 2024 at 4:14 pm

        Doing the haka is part of team culture, they each have their own.

        No individual contract is involved, as per the haka.

      • Mikey 1.4.2
        11 March 2024 at 7:27 pm

        I don't know why they are making a fuss, as I'm sure they give no credence to anything said or written in Maori.

    • SPC 1.5
      11 March 2024 at 4:09 pm

      Keep up with the story if commenting on it.

      Hurricanes administators have denied the Poua's latest haka is criticising the government and say people have misconstrued the challenge.

      What he means politicians gotta be politicians and misrepresent things to play their culture war games.

      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/rugby-hurricanes-poua-say-latest-haka-has-been-misconstrued-as-political-attack.html

    • randal mcmurphy 1.6
      11 March 2024 at 9:34 pm

      first nd foremost they are a sportspeople and contract schmontract. they are in the public arena and and if they cant strut their stuff then I would tear it up. We supposedly have free speech but when anybody exercises that right then those on the receiving end spit the dummy. good! Go the HUrricanes!

    • Descendant Of Smith 1.7
      11 March 2024 at 9:41 pm

      Can't see that they are bringing their employer into disrepute.

      Seems to me they are doing exactly the opposite. Enhancing the mana of their employer. Noting of course Hurricanes management approved the second haka.

      This of course has been well-reported but you choose to ignore it.

      Bloody right-wingers and their fascist cancel culture.

  2. Adrian 2
    11 March 2024 at 9:06 am

    You are working for the wrong bunch of arseholes. You have your own mind they are not supposed to own it.

    • Gosman 2.1
      11 March 2024 at 9:14 am

      They are entitled to have the view (and act on it) that on work time and on work resources they should have a say in what I communicate to the wider public expecially if I am using my position as an employee to get a larger audience and make a bigger impact.

      What were your thoughts on the Australian Rugby Union sacking Israel Folau for posting hist personal religious beliefs around homosexuality on his personal Twitter feed? Did you think they had no right to do so?

      • Adrian 2.1.1
        11 March 2024 at 9:39 am

        It wasn't his homosexual beliefs as I recall, but the comments along the lines of them not deserving to live.

        • Gosman 2.1.1.1
          11 March 2024 at 11:14 am

          He didn't state that. He merely stated a commonly held view by MANY religious people that Homosexuals will go to Hell. It isn't very nice admittedly but it is his strongly held conviction which he expressed in a personal capacity not while he was doing something in his role as a ARU player.

          • mac1 2.1.1.1.1
            11 March 2024 at 11:52 am

            What gets me about 'celebrities' be they film stars, musicians, sports people, media, billionaires or gentry is why us ordinary folk should pay them any attention except acknowledge their work and knowledge in their field of expertise.

            It shouldn't be an issue with the general public as to what Israel Folau believes.

            For me what the issues are why I am actually getting these opinions, that in my view the mistaken belief of such celebrities exists that they can wisely and usefully broadcast their opinions beyond that expertise and thirdly the role of the media in facilitating that.

            • SPC 2.1.1.1.1.1
              11 March 2024 at 4:17 pm

              We all have opinions and express them, it is just that celebrities get photographed when out and about and have their opinions reported to us.

              This happens whether they are activist about their "causes" or not.

          • SPC 2.1.1.1.2
            11 March 2024 at 4:32 pm

            After this happened in the past he signed a new contract that made reference to his having obligation to his employer – as to their position on inclusivity in the game.

  3. Descendant Of Smith 3
    11 March 2024 at 9:07 am

    Privatisation continues unabated. Not revenue gathering but expected to triple the number of tickets. An oxymoron surely.

    Private operators, instead of police, will run mobile speed cameras on highways nationwide for the first time.

    Waka Kotahi/New Zealand Transport Agency put out a tender a week ago to run the country's 45 mobile cameras from next year.

    It said the provider that won the contract would not issue speeding tickets or get bonuses for pinging more drivers.

    Waka Kotahi would have responsibility for processing the images and issuing fines, as well as deciding where and when the cameras would be placed.

    Bidders must show they can meet future requirements, "which could include point-to-point mobile operations", the tender said."

    The agency has previously estimated the whole system upgrade will triple the number of camera-issued tickets to three million a year by 2030, and increase prosecutions to around 3300.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350207818/private-operators-instead-police-run-mobile-speed-cameras-first-time

    • AB 3.1
      11 March 2024 at 1:29 pm

      Heh. I can recall a workplace where all the middle-aged mostly conservative dudes who enjoyed a bit of polite speeding now and again (nothing outrageous, just the habitual seeking to gain an advantage over others on the road and everywhere else) complained about speed cameras. They said the Police were guilty of revenue gathering.

      Now they will get to experience what revenue gathering really looks like, all courtesy of a government they almost certainly voted for. Poetic justice perhaps.

  4. weka 4
    11 March 2024 at 10:07 am

    GB News special on the WPATH files.

    On tonight’s episode of Free Speech Nation, I’ll be delving into the WPATH files: leaked documents from the world’s leading authority on transgender health. I’ll be speaking to a range of expert guests to discuss the explosive revelations, including:

    Michael Shellenberger and Mia Hughes on the leaked materials

    Helen Joyce on WPATH’s global influence (18m 40)

    Stella O’Malley on the victims of WPATH

    Dr Carrie Mendoza on clinical malpractice

    Robin Moira White on gender-affirming care

    Genevieve Gluck on her previous exposés on WPATH

    Dr Az Hakeem on WPATH’s influence on the NHS

    Ritchie Herron on the experience of detransitioning

    Fiona McAnena on software systems used in NHS trusts originating from WPATH

    Neale Hanvey MP on the political implications of the WPATH Files

    https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1766866028598841467

    Full episode here,

    https://youtu.be/KRMI2UjaIfI?t=195

  5. joe90 5
    11 March 2024 at 10:19 am

    Pricks.

    .

    @Adam_Currie_NZ

    Whaikaha (Disability Ministry) is reducing (the already underwhelming) services for wheelchair users, after the government slashed their budget by 7.5%. The Minister is refusing to comment or be accountable for this. Outrageous. Shame on this government.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350205198/disability-ministry-reduces-wheelchair-services-due-cost

    https://twitter.com/Adam_Currie_NZ/status/1766863890485309560

  6. Patricia Bremner 6
    11 March 2024 at 1:42 pm

    If this Government is going to get precious about every piece of fight back, they are going to be busy and mouthy.

    They will burn up any capital with those swing voters as their fast tracking undermines NZ Law and gets many more groups riled. imo.

    Let's change Winstone's moan of "Go Woke Go Broke"

    to "Be Awake for All our sakes."

  7. joe90 7
    11 March 2024 at 3:18 pm

    Not fit to be lived in…

    /

    Premier House has received more than $95,000 in upgrades since Christopher Luxon came to power, including fresh paint for its bedrooms, new bedding and kitchen appliances, and a Sky television connection.

    […]

    New details of the maintenance work that has been keeping Luxon from relocating show that, since he took office, there has been $9832 spent on readying the property for the new prime minister, and $85,673 spent on “deferred repairs and maintenance work”.

    Among the costs related to the incoming prime minister were $4887.50 for new mattresses for the master bedroom and for a twin room, which also had $690.30 spent on it for new linen.

    In the kitchen, $326.98 was spent on a new toaster, kettle and knife set, $220.50 on replacing a microwave, and $45.98 for tea towels.

    There was $231.99 spent removing a child safety barrier on a staircase ‒ the prior occupant was Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, who lived there with her young child, Neve.

    A Sky television connection was reinstated at a cost of $125.

    https://archive.li/tzQ2s (thepress)

    • Nic the NZer 7.1
      11 March 2024 at 3:51 pm

      Before this story goes away Christopher will be forced to take up residence in premier house. Should probably get started on renting out his existing Wellington residence ASAP in order not to be seen to be maintaining a vacant property when that happens.

      • joe90 7.1.1
        11 March 2024 at 4:00 pm

        If he folds on this, the chipping is working. And if we keep chipping, I reckon he'll flag it and go back to his nice, rich prick, life.

      • Phillip ure 7.1.2
        11 March 2024 at 9:45 pm

        I think it calls for a reality show..

        The travails of the luxon brood..as they suffer the indignities and hardships/slumming of living in premier house..

        (..which I will bet is better than the seven rentals he owns..)

        .. it's kinda fascinating how luxon is presenting as such a grifter..

        • Descendant Of Smith 7.1.2.1
          11 March 2024 at 9:49 pm

          Among the costs related to the incoming prime minister were $4887.50 for new mattresses for the master bedroom

          Must be difficult to sleep on the existing mattress that baby Neve may have been conceived on. Those terrible thoughts that might have haunted his dreams.

    • veutoviper 7.2
      12 March 2024 at 10:29 am

      I wonder how much of the $95,000 spent to date since "Christopher Luxon came to power" was to enable Luxon and his 25 family members to use Premier House for several days for their 2023 Christmas bash?

      Although it has been reported that "Luxon covered all the costs of the Christmas Day bash himself" this presumably did not include new mattresses, kitchen appliances, painting of bedrooms etc included in the "$9832 spent on readying the property for the new prime minister, and $85,673 spent on “deferred repairs and maintenance work” making up the $95,000.

      The Press article does not mention this Luxon Christmas "bash" at Premier House but this has been widely reported elsewhere in the media. Other reports of this bash include:

      https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/03/07/luxon-hosted-christmas-at-premier-house/

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350203582/premier-house-suitable-big-luxon-family-xmas-bash

      And why use Premier House when the Luxon home in Auckland was obviously well set up for Christmas according to this very detailed (and over the top imho) Now To Love article in Dec 2023:

      https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/celebrity/celeb-news/christmas-with-christopher-luxon-and-family-48048/

      "And Christmas has certainly arrived at the couple’s stunning home, with a beautiful three-metre tall tree taking pride of place in the dining room. Underneath sits a pile of gifts beautifully wrapped in white and gold."

      Rant now over – !!!!

  8. joe90 8
    11 March 2024 at 4:01 pm

    Well done and congrats on the win, Australia.

    • SPC 8.1
      11 March 2024 at 4:34 pm

      Tim Paine of Tasmania notes that the Oz captain stole a century from Bishop Carey, hell has a place for keeping those who mess with those of their union.

  9. Reality 9
    11 March 2024 at 4:41 pm

    A question. If the women rugby players had twice performed a haka that on translation was full of praise for this new government – would Gosman, Winston Peters and whoever else, be objecting? We could see a scenario of Luxon heading to one of their games for a photo and handshake.

  10. SPC 10
    11 March 2024 at 4:56 pm

    It's becoming clear that Simeon Brown has made Auckland an unsafe place for those on E scooters and bikes.

    First Bishop, then Bridges and now Seymour. Surely it is no coincidence.

    And with an increase in speed allowed and the removal of speed bumps, this is likely to occur again and again. Especially with the increase in PT cost.

    And then with the new roads going through suburbs that the heavy trucks can use (reducing congestion on existing roads allows them to travel at the speed limit), those in cars will also be at greater risk also.

    LA Confidential – appointees neutral or freindly.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/03/former-national-leader-and-transport-minister-simon-bridges-appointed-top-new-zealand-transport-agency-role.html

    LA All Clear.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/03/advocates-attack-removal-of-climate-change-from-government-s-draft-transport-policy.html

  11. joe90 11
    11 March 2024 at 6:56 pm

    But you are a trust fund baby, Dave.

    .

    .

    ACT Party leader David Seymour had a near escape after falling off an electric bike on Sunday.

    On top of the scary moment, Seymour said he received abuse while lying dazed on the road.

    […]

    Seymour said he wasn't injured besides being in shock and a sore wrist, but revealed the abuse he received while sitting on a traffic island.

    "While I'm sitting on the traffic island in a state of shock, some guy comes over and starts filming me. I thought 'that's a bit weird' and then he says in a British accent 'you know what, sometimes you get exactly what you deserve'," Seymour told Newshub.

    "He then said 'look what you're doing to Māori, you're just a trust fund baby who's out of touch with reality'.

    "I thought 'I am Māori, and I don't have a trust fund'."

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/03/act-party-leader-david-seymour-crashes-electric-bike-in-parnell-auckland.html

  12. randal mcmurphy 12
    11 March 2024 at 9:37 pm

    memo to big Marky Mitchell. when are you going to do something about the latest cohort of little shits with their loud cars passively aggressively assaulting the rest of us with their noise?

    oh that's right. the people who buy noise bombs for their little darlings mostly vote national!

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  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
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  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
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  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
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  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
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  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
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  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
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  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
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  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
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  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
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  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
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  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
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  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
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  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
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  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
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  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
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