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Open mike 15/10/2022

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  1. observer 1

    I suppose over the years I've seen hundreds of press conferences by politicians. This morning might have been the very worst (and I even watched some of Trump's!).

    Every idiot who has grumbled about our PM's press conferences ("Jessica, Tova") should see the British PM in action. Compare and contrast. Seriously, words can't describe how bad it was. And she gave up after 4 questions.

    Train wreck? No. People can survive train wrecks.

    • Tony Veitch 1.1

      She also gave virtually the same non-answer to each question.

      Jacinda is in a different class to any bumbling tory!

      • higherstandard 1.1.1

        There's no question that Ardern is a far far better communicator than Liz Truss.

        She does however provide similar inane and down right nonsense in response to questions which is an all too familiar trait of politicians throughout the world.

        https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/top/476386/local-body-elections-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-left-s-losses

        I'd also suggest that the UK media are considerably tougher, more well informed and less star struck by politicians than virtually all of their counterparts in NZ.

        • Higherstandard, yet those hard headed British journalists rate Jacinda Ardern. You're dissing her while she was pointing out that although some Mayors had changed many had not, and voters were disadvantaged by late receipt of papers, and a patchy mail service. Now that may or may not be pertinent.

          Some contests were very close (Gore) and others a name draw between two candidates. So to say there was a wide spread swing away is hyperbole. Auckland showed a big swing back to their usual BAU. No surprise there.

          If anything has changed after the Pandemic, it is support for the far right Act and silent support. It is alarming to see this, and see notice given by the group who wish to "make NZ ungovernable" that they intend to infiltrate the Councils and Boards. Some now have members with some mighty strange affiliations.

          Yet you still talk as though Jacinda Ardern is responsible for this, when a wish for "different outcomes" is shaking a right wing British government and Left wing parties appear to be favoured by a 30% majority in Britain, Truss has thrown a friend to the wolves, as she discovers that people feel angry and threatened, inside her team and countrywide.

          The inflation Genie and War is wreaking havoc. Change will come ready or not imo. The Fire economy begins again? I hope we realise letting the rich mop up mortgagee sales is the wrong medicine. Otherwise it is back to BAU.

          • higherstandard 1.1.1.1.1

            Perhaps you should listen to Ardern's response to questions from Espiner about a certain ex minister moving into the public relations field …from about the 6 minute mark.

            The PM's comments are frankly absurd.

      • Jester 1.1.2

        "I refute the premise of that question" = I do not want to answer that.

        • When the basis of a question is loaded or flawed… why would the PM go there? Are you denying her a human right to not answer?

          • Anne 1.1.2.1.1

            yes

            Every time I have heard Ardern use the response:

            "I refute the premise of that question"

            the question has been so outrageously biased and wrong in its conception, that it surprises me she doesn't respond in much stronger terms. Perhaps its time to roll back at the questioner in a similar mode.

            Oops: Peter beat me to it. 🙂

          • Jester 1.1.2.1.2

            Jacinda is a far better communicator than Liz Truss. She is far better at saying a lot without answering the question asked.

            • observer 1.1.2.1.2.1

              Not just about being a better communicator. It's about basic respect and accountability.

              Ardern's Beehive press conferences last up to an hour, minimum 30 mins. Count the number of questions taken, with follow-ups allowed.

              You can go back through 5 years of these, and you will be hard pressed to find any instances of Ardern walking out after 4 minutes of questions.

              Whether you like the answers will obviously depend on our various political leanings, that's inevitably subjective. But measuring time and numbers is not a matter of opinion, it's measurable maths. She fronts up, and the reporters – all of them – have every chance to ask whatever they want, and do.

        • Peter 1.1.2.2

          If you refute the premise of a question, which is reasonable position to take, is it best to say "I refute the premise of that question" or "You are talking crap, I'm not going to dignify it with an answer"? Especially when it is patently obvious the questioner is grandstanding, playing games trying to put the person under pressure, not seeking some grand elucidation.

          Or maybe the response, rather than a rejection of the premise, is a churlish "You journalists are all the same." Which would be followed by the adoring supporters saying, "God, that Muldoon showed them who was boss."

          • Hunter Thompson II 1.1.2.2.1

            To refute an accusation is to prove it is false.

            To deny an accusation is to merely assert it is false.

            [Usage and Abusage, Penguin Reference Books, 1947 p 262.]

            JA confuses the two, as do many reporters,

        • Louis 1.1.2.3

          @Jester. Whenever the PM refutes the premise of a question, she explains why and often in detail.

      • X Socialist 1.1.3

        Yeah, it was a terrible speech. The Tories made a mistake with that one. She has the personality of a brick wall, and not much else. But Tony, when you say: ''Jacinda is in a different class to any bumbling tory,!'' you are showing
        the type of political blindness that is sending our Labour Party to the opposition benches for a very long time. Why are you worried about Liz Truss? If the recent forced maniacal laughter from Jacinda when asked a question recently is anything to go by, we have more pressing issues closer to home. And let's not forget we have the leaders debates coming up. Luxon is spoilt for options to attack Jacinda with. Much is made of Luxon's ignorance and bumblings during interviews. That's all true. But the reality is, Luxon only needs to put on a half decent show. Jacinda needs to put on a performance that would rival the Gettysburg Address.

        • Anne 1.1.3.1

          "If the recent forced maniacal laughter from Jacinda when asked a question recently…."

          Oh dear, so because Jacinda Ardern laughed out loud about something she is "maniacal"? Well I suggest this descriptive term is in the eyes/ears of only the commenter. Infectious laughing on TV or anywhere else is acceptable and not the least bit "maniacal".

          This commenter seems to have a malevolent attitude towards anything associated with the Prime Minister and her government which does not bode well for reasoned debate.

          • PsyclingLeft.Always 1.1.3.1.1

            "Maniacal" ? Ya gotta wonder….must be very dark inside that part of the rabbit warren.

          • X Socialist 1.1.3.1.2

            Anne, you should read up on psychology. In particular the body cues people use when stressed, especially when reality is at odds with a persons narrative. I have never seen Jacinda laugh like this before. But maybe you are right – maniacal may be too stronger word. How about a dignified cackle?

            I would like to draw your attention to Megan Woods who seems to be more observant than you and others. Maybe she wants the top job?

            • Incognito 1.1.3.1.2.1

              I could count the droplets of sweat forming on her eyebrows crying

              People see, hear, and believe what they want, as deftly demonstrated by the prosaic language in your comments.

              Ardern has dealt with much bigger fires than numpty questions that are based on trying to connect dots in a speculative manner to extract a comment.

              • X Socialist

                ''I could count the droplets of sweat forming on her eyebrows.''

                I couldn't. But I can index her behaviour to past behaviour. Hence my comment. I'm only one of many who observed that strange laugh when related to the question posed.

                ''People see, hear, and believe what they want, as deftly demonstrated by the prosaic language in your comments.''

                That is true to a certain degree. So we should go looking for facts and collaborating evidence. My evidence is political polls, Megan Woods and other commentators who observed her laugh and commented in a similar vain. In fact there is common descriptor for that laugh Jacinda gave.

                ''Nervous laughter:

                Nervous laughter happens for a number of reasons. Some research suggests that your body uses this sort of mechanism to regulate emotion. Other research has found that nervous laughter may be a defense mechanism against emotions that may make us feel uncomfortable. Either way, it's pretty weird to experience.''

                ''Ardern has dealt with much bigger fires than numpty questions that are based on trying to connect dots in a speculative manner to extract a comment.''

                Again you may be right. She could have been laughing at the questioner because someone had told her the questioner was a 3 second wonder in bed. But I think that nervous laugh is going to become more common in coming months.

                • Incognito

                  Actually, I as referring to Megan Woods, and you again proved my point that you see what you want to see.

                  I missed the comment of Woods on that interview, BTW. Or were you mind-reading her too?

                  Are you a laughing expert by any chance? Nice quote, but no link angry

                  Never met a “3 second wonder in bed”; is that about tickling?

                  I will watch out for nervous laughter in coming months and let it cloud guide my thinking and ultimately my vote.

                  • X Socialist

                    ''Actually, I was referring to Megan Woods, and you again proved my point that you see what you want to see.''

                    Oh, thanks for telling me. But she's not the PM yet. Of course your hint that subjective perceptions can mean anything was addressed with objective factors to back up the many of us who, funnily enough, had the same subjective perceptions. Megan woods was auxiliary to the main actor. Sometimes you have to assume a commentator will stay with the argument without resorting to parlour tricks.

                    As for the rest of your comments, they are of little value. In fact they are very well crafted inanities that would lead some apparatchiks to think you are a very witty and intelligent man. I think you are, but your reply is the written equivalent of a nervous laugh against a narrative that has merit, but isn't wanted on this blog.

                    • Incognito

                      You asked us to direct our attention to Woods, so I did.

                      I personally don’t know any “parlour tricks”, unless it involves tickling.

                      Obviously, I’m pushing back on your narrative into more objective territory with a less biased perspective, but the Force is strong with you.

                      As to what is wanted on this blog, I cannot answer this; what do you want on this blog? Your user name is not as self-explanatory as you might think and there are very few actual mind readers on this site.

                      The kaupapa of this site is robust debate, preferably informed and rich with some original thinking and imaginative input. You have a long way to go still.

                    • Tony Veitch

                      You, sir (?) are a concern troll. Your non de plume should be better as Ex Socialist.

                    • X Socialist

                      Concern troll is very apt. Labour has blown a gift bestowed on us from Winston Peters. We forgot how lucky we were.

                      ''Your non de plume should be better as Ex Socialist.''

                      I decided to leave the the E out for brevity. However as Incognito has shown – anything can mean anything.

                    • Incognito []

                      Nope, not anything means anything. If you think or believe that you’ve lost your grip on reality and you might as well wear virtual-reality googles 24/7 – we’re not as far away from that as you might think, which is why there’s so much gaslighting happening.

                      Which is why we [have to] do reality checks all the time, individually-collectively, by pinching others and ourselves.

            • mpledger 1.1.3.1.2.3

              Given some of the non-Labour people who won in the local body elections, I would say it is to Labour's advantage for the next election.

        • Radical Alternative 1.1.3.2

          She's still the most popular politician in the country. People have seen Luxon, and they don't like him. At least Key was pretty good at hiding his contempt for 70% of the public.

          • JO 1.1.3.2.1

            Three taut true sentences yes

          • X Socialist 1.1.3.2.2

            ''She's still the most popular politician in the country''

            That's a fact according to the polls. But, her popularity is declining along with that of Luxons. Is there a common denominator?

            The next question is ''so what?'' I mean that seriously.

            • Incognito 1.1.3.2.2.1

              Oh, how we laughed!

              • X Socialist

                No need for sarcasm. I was just covering my arse in case someone accuses me of nastiness masquerading as a question. The question was genuine.

                I don't think RA has thought things through. What's the point of crowing about Jacinda being the most popular polly in the country when according to polls the Tories and ACT could form a gummint if an election was held tomorrow? Of course all political parties have problems at the moment:

                1- Labour – Jacinda's fading popularity and voter backlash.

                2- National – ACT and their bottom line for coalition. Luxon's unlikeablity.

                3-The Greens – Voter backlash and internal ructions. The rise of Chlöe Swarbrick. The decline of James Shaw.

                4- The Maori Party. Voter backlash against Maori coming. Some from Maori. Allegations against John Tamihere for having his fingers in a forbidden cookie jar.

                Does this chess board of moves not excite you, Incognito?

                • Incognito

                  You have no sense of humour or a very short & selective memory, or both. Anywho, covering your arse is moot when you’re showing your true colours.

                  You say that your question was genuine, but it was followed with this:

                  The next question is ''so what?'' I mean that seriously.

                  Seriously? Do you have discussions with your parsnip? By candlelight?

                  You appear to live in an alternate reality judging by your 4 bullet points. Stop smoking your own dope and the fog may lift, eventually. I’m not into gaming and virtual reality, so no, it does not ‘excite’ me the slightest, but it seems to work for you!? I do like a good game of chess though, where B & W pieces mean something.

                  You certainly drifted a long way from the first comment in this thread about the train wreck that was the speech appearance by Liz Truss.

                  PS I actually like Luxon a lot, but he’s utterly shit terrible at being a politician and LOTO. He would be a shambolic PM, which is what Seymour and ACT are counting on.

                  • X Socialist

                    Jeepers. Talking about showing ones true colours. I tried to expand on the question I asked. Your reply was filled with invective. Ironically the PS was the only decent thing you wrote. I'm sorry about straying from the topic. I thought anything went in open mike. Next time I will start a new thread.

    • Tony Veitch 1.2

      Link:

    • Ad 1.3

      Much and all as I truly loathe the UK Conservative Party and all they stand for, Truss must get her show together and her team must help her.

      They have been elected into power until 2025.

      The UK needs a strong financial industry to have a strong economy, and if that gets seriously worse it will affect trade with both Australia and New Zealand.

      Also the destabilisation of about 20 million pensioners livelihoods is not cool and looks like it will continue for months.

      Truss must get her show together.

    • joe90 1.4

      The pommie rags are brutal.

    • weka 1.5

      Just started watching and couldn't get past,

      My conviction [pause]…

      because I started laughing.

      • Anne 1.5.1

        I did better than that – got as far as the next few words,

        is rooted in growth…

        before hitting the stop button.

    • Matiri 1.6

      Truss had a very short list of who she was going to allow questions from – Telegraph, Sun, BBC and ITV. Shame for her that they still asked tricky questions! They all got the same scripted stilted response which bore no relation to the question – energy payments, growth, global situation… and then she scurried off.

  2. bwaghorn 2

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/130076736/here-are-the-economic-policies-national-says-it-will-cull

    Less tax more unemployed, what national stands for.

    Although I'm on the fence on the farming tax , 8 billion people need all the food grown out on the farm at this stage ,and it's clear the left don't get it!

    • Ad 2.1

      We should only sell our food to the highest priced buyer.

      More Waitrose and a whole less Aldi.

      Mass industrial agricultural anything is no use to New Zealand.

      • So the rest compete with the wealthy for the food? Come again!!

        I do agree about industrial farming, but not for the above reason.

        • Belladonna 2.1.1.1

          The only reason that the world can feed its population (not so much here in NZ, but in the first world economies) is industrial farming.

          Malthus was right (for the agricultural environment in which he lived) – it is only the industrialized farming and food preservation technologies which have enabled us to support our world population with sufficient reserves to support our lifestyle. [All those XR protesters only have the resources to protest because of industrialized farming – including oil for energy – something few of them are willing to acknowledge.]

          You can't shy away from it. Moving away from industrialized farming will result in food shortages, increased prices, and eventually starvation for some of the population.

          Moving to sustainable industrialized farming, is another matter.

          https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-malthus-predicted-1798-food-shortages/

        • Ad 2.1.1.2

          Most compete already for our food, and that competition is how our country has paid for most of our social democracy for a century.

          Welcome to the world of sales.

    • Tricledrown 2.2

      bwaghorn.8 billion people won't be feed if global warming continues to wreek havoc floods droughts and wars. Not doing anything about climate change is going to mean more people going hungry .The right continue to bury their head in the sand and blame the left for bringing it to our attention and doing something about it.

      • bwaghorn 2.2.1

        I never said we shouldn't do anything about cc,

        Slam frivolous emissions like tourism, would sporting fixtures, any shit people consume that isn't related to survival, destroying rural nz so we can be leaders(although I doubt any one will follow) is ridiculous

  3. aj 3

    Relevant news at a time when Groundswell remains anchored in the 1950's. It's never been better for farmers. Never a nod in the direction of the government for helping prop up the trading conditions leading to these results.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/130159725/alliance-group-records-most-profitable-year-to-date

    The pair told farmers at a meeting in Balclutha earlier this week that Alliance had recorded its most profitable year to date.

    ‘’We’ve never been more profitable – we’ve seen increases year-on-year,’’ Surveyor said.

    As a result, Alliance would reward farmers with a profit distribution and bonus share issue, he said.

    • PsyclingLeft.Always 3.1

      ‘’We’ve never been more profitable – we’ve seen increases year-on-year,’’ Surveyor said.

      Groundswell remains anchored in the 1950's.

      Absolutely. Only the Tractors have changed ! And they are organising yet another Tractor protest. Probably with accompaniment anti Jacinda ( pretty communist etc etc) placards

      People should read your…and other links, and, well…just look at the Tractors, not hard to see who is doing well.

      FYI…of course there is a separate group of Farmers..who dont support the groundswell dino's. And clearly see the Future. Our Earth's heating !…and they are trying to change others mindset. Problem is the aforesaid groundswellers mind.. set is in concrete.

      “This is our nuclear moment for farming.”

      https://www.odt.co.nz/rural-life/rural-life-other/emissions-pricing-rural-nz-%E2%80%98ready%E2%80%99-protest

      Groundswell plans nationwide tractor protest

      https://www.odt.co.nz/rural-life/rural-life-other/groundswell-plans-nationwide-tractor-protest

      • Graeme 3.1.1

        Farming culture is the ultimate echo chamber. Generally the only social contact a farmer has is his family (generally farmers) and other farmers. It's rare that someone without a farming background will be employed on a farm so it goes on. It's a world quite separate to the rest of society. Agreement and conformity are prioritised over rational thought, or even just thought.

        When that insular, but also rather secure world is questioned by wider society, and the environment they rely on keep farming, it is a direct threat to their wellbeing.

        Don't expect a rational response.

        There's also a huge international industry that's dependant on the individual farmer's cashflow to supply their tractors, irrigators, fertiliser, seed, feed, genetics and the myriad of other inputs that go in to a farm. On this side it's a bit more intelligent and rational, but the money is huge and international, most inputs aren't in $NZ.

        Going to be a bit of a ride.

        • PsyclingLeft.Always 3.1.1.1

          I hear you. I've worked Urban and Rural. Quite varied jobs. With the Rural…a lot of VERY Nice people. And mostly.. pretty laidback. But definitely when its "them" against Us (Rural folk), Stand Together becomes the prime directive. And in times of strife absolutely ..prime. However those times include drought…which is only going to get worse as we continue Earth heating. Farmers need to see this. Pouring water on grass , to make milk…is so past its use by.

          I do see some of their bewilderment ? frustration? but I still think they need to see a big picture.

        • joe90 3.1.1.2

          or even just thought.

          There's nothing quite like a Taranaki cockie telling you about how farm succession planning hard work got him into his prime >350ha dairy unit.

    • Radical Alternative 3.2

      Got a feeling the protest will be a bit of a shitshow. Last time round the organisers had to impose a list of approved messages for participants, and that was before the Wellington riot. There's a lot of maniacs out there looking to latch onto the next thing, so expect to see them trying to worm their way into this latest Groundswell tantrum.

      • PsyclingLeft.Always 3.2.1

        For sure. Hitchin' their anti: Guvmint/Maori/Three Waters/5G/Vaccination/U.N./etc etc; wagons to the flash tractors.

        And yea re "the "list of approved messages for participants" thats only a fob…IMO it'll be full on for sure. Hopefully they are seen for what they are.

  4. PsyclingLeft.Always 4

    The King…….Ah MAYOR , Wayne Brown,stymied.

    One of Auckland mayor Wayne Brown's resignation targets has pushed back, telling staff of the council development arm Eke Panuku that any call for change will have to come from the full council.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/476664/auckland-council-chairman-pushes-back-on-mayor-wayne-brown-s-call-for-him-to-quit

    Awesome. Nothing better than bullies getting…pushback : )

    Wonder if Ol' Wayne has any urinal pictures planned for him?

    I'm sure Wayne will be….fuming.

    • Ad 4.1

      He will use this interregnum moment to the full until the committee structure is formed

      • PsyclingLeft.Always 4.1.1

        Thats the way of these bullies. Hopefully all those being "pressured" to resign (and DON'T want to) can get the support they need to hang in there. Council's, along with ALL NZ workplaces have anti bully systems set in law. Sadly never much adhered to….BUT. Still there to be used.

        • tinderdry6 4.1.1.1

          The Chair of Panuku is himself a bully, who has wielded his power over iwi and other groups for too long. The entire Board of Panuku is under investigation for conflicts of interest. Brown is taking on powerful corporate interests and not before time.

          • PsyclingLeft.Always 4.1.1.1.1

            lol.

          • aj 4.1.1.1.2

            I support what Eke Panuku is doing. Strong Towns.

            "The chair countered Brown's line that the agency was a "property developer".

            "The nature of urban regeneration, as opposed to property development, is to invest in the future of Tāmaki Makaurau which is why we have a Wynyard Quarter and emerging centres such as Northcote, Avondale, Takapuna, Panmure and Manukau," he said.

            "The creation of thriving town centres and support for the Council group has never been more important following the ongoing impacts of the Covid years," he said."

            • Belladonna 4.1.1.1.2.1

              Anyone who thinks that either Takapuna or Northcote are 'thriving town centres' is invited to visit them. Apart from the large number of restaurants in Takapuna (anecdotally, hearing that many of them are struggling), business is dire. Central Northcote is one massive building site – as high-rise apartment buildings are constructed all around the existing scruffy town centre (plans for revitalizing this are still on the drawing board – and may never eventuate with a different council with different priorities).

              No doubt people who are familiar with the other Auckland suburbs quoted can comment on the truthfulness of that remark, where they are concerned.

        • Ad 4.1.1.2

          Most smart politicians do.

  5. arkie 5

    The Government has a published a consultation document: Te tātai utu o ngā tukunga ahuwhenua Pricing agricultural emissions.

    The opportunity to make submissions on this proposal runs until 18 November.

    It's important that we have our say, but if the depth of the submission process intimidates the Greens have a guide:

    The Government wants feedback on its proposal to:

    • Price emissions at the farm-level from 2025, with a levy on methane output. The levy price would be set by Cabinet, informed by the advice of the Climate Change Commission
    • If the farm-level levy is not operational in time for 2025, use an interim processor-level levy for likely no more than two years

    The Government also wants public views on some aspects of emissions pricing, including:

    • Whether it should investigate tradable methane quotas, where the market would be determined by the total amount of pollution permitted each year (the preferred option of Minister for Climate Change, James Shaw)
    • Whether nitrogen fertiliser should be part of the ETS, or covered by the levy system
    • How to account for on-farm sequestration within a system for pricing agricultural emissions
    • How it can best protect the interests of iwi, hapū and Māori, and honour Te Tiriti o Waitangi, during the development of agricultural emissions pricing

    https://action.greens.org.nz/submission_guide_he_waka_eke_noa

    • Descendant Of Smith 5.1

      I really don't get why we have a capitalist solution i.e. trading schemes to solve what essentially is market failure to protect our environment.

      Regulation to simply restrict seems much more sensible and straight forward.

      Limit the areas you can dairy in, reduce the herd sizes, set maximum herd sizes per land area linked to land quality, reduce irrigation required to make dairying viable in previously non dairying areas and so on. Imagine if we had taken such an approach to abolishing slavery. For every slave you have you can employ someone else to offset them. Yep that would work.

      • arkie 5.1.1

        I really don't get why we have a capitalist solution i.e. trading schemes to solve what essentially is market failure to protect our environment.

        Because of the Labour party. In 2014 the Greens campaigned on phasing out the ETS for a carbon tax:

        Labour, the Greens' prospective coalition partner, introduced emissions trading in the first place, and its finance spokesperson David Parker wants the scheme retained.

        "We're happy to consider (the Green Party's) alternative but we do note we favour an Emissions Trading Scheme as opposed to a carbon tax."

        https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/246114/greens-sticking-with-carbon-tax-policy

        Since Labour remain adhered to the 'market-based' solutions the Greens have to push them to make that market system as effective as is possible. I'm sure your comment would be an appropriate general comment in a submission.

  6. higherstandard 7

    Some woke nonsense for a Saturday morning.

    New Zealand’s arts council has pulled funding for a Shakespeare festival that has been running in secondary schools for roughly three decades, after questioning its relevance to the country and because it focuses on “a canon of imperialism”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/14/new-zealand-pulls-funding-for-school-sheilah-winn-shakespeare-festival-citing-canon-of-imperialism

    • joe90 7.1

      Dog forbid they should have to apply to a different funding programme.

      The rejection letter said the centre would be able to apply for funding under Creative NZ’s annual arts grants programme, and it may “do better financially” under that scheme.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/arts/129904808/to-fund-or-not-to-fund-shakespeare-centres-funding-axed-by-creative-nz

      • Anker 7.1.1

        Yes Joe 90, but it was the reason for cutting the funding. Shakespeare's genre is apparently located in a "canon of imperialism". FFS. Politicizing the greatest playright of all times. Someone who wrote so very meaningfully about human nature. The irony.

        Also there is nothing to say applying to another branch of Creative NZ will be successful.

        They are making NZ look like a cultural backwater.

    • Descendant Of Smith 7.2

      It has not been funded because it is competing against other requests for funding and has this time missed out.

      Is there an expectation it gets funded forever and others miss out? The overall context is missing – how many applications were received, what was the oversubscription, what actually did get funded? Do we expect that their is competition for limited funding or the same organisations get funded every year?

      There is a good point in the commentary.

      “Wouldn’t it be great if young people could come home and say, ‘Hey, Mum, Dad, I just found this story and it’s really similar to Hinemoa and Tūtānekai. It’s Romeo and Juliet’.”

      I love Shakespeare and think it should continue to be taught in schools but don't believe it has any right to be so taught – any more than while I love the education I got at school on the Edwardian era or WWII or on asplenium ferns or The Bluebird of Happiness has any right to continue.

      Management-speak and over justifying is a problem in this country – just say that the requests for funding were oversubscribed and you missed out. Adding gobbledy-gook to the explanation leads to this sort of nonsense.

      I'm much more interested in what was funded instead of. Might be some really cool innovative stuff in there.

    • Incognito 7.3

      Some woke nonsense for a Saturday morning.

      So, you found old news from a month ago in an overseas rag that set off your woke detector and decided to be outraged. Clearly, you haven’t studied Shakespeare enough:

      To be outraged, or not to be outraged, that’s no question

  7. Stephen D 8

    Is it just coincidence that geopolitically we have two major actors trying to replicate the past?

    Putin wants to rebuild the Russian empire and be tsar.

    Xi in China seems to be wanting to rebuild the hierarchy to the days of the Emperor. Total control over every aspect of life handed down from the court.

    In both cases control over the local population is relatively easy as neither have a history of any form of democratic governance.

    Western society may well just have to watch this play out internally. And use the rules based order to mitigate the worst effects on neighbours.

    Which is what we are doing.

  8. joe90 9

    So much whining..

    Former President Donald Trump is calling on the Pulitzer Prize Board to revoke prizes awarded to the New York Times and Washington Post in 2018 for their coverage of the Russia investigation, threatening legal action if they do not comply.

    In a letter to Pulitzer administrator Marjorie Miller, Trump noted that he twice previously made the request, stating that the reporting on the years-long probe was based on false information.

    "There is no dispute that the Pulitzer Board's award to those media outlets was based on false and fabricated information that they published," the former president said. "The continuing publication and recognition of the prizes on the Board's website is a distortion of fact and a personal defamation that will result in the filing of litigation if the Board cannot be persuaded to do the right thing on its own."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-threatens-pulitzer-committee-legal-action-russia-probe-coverage

  9. joe90 10

    AP report on fascists doing what fascists always do; abducting kids, sending them to Russia or Russian-held territories, telling them they weren’t wanted by their parents and giving them to Russian families.

    Disgusting.

    Thousands of children have been found in the basements of war-torn cities like Mariupol and at orphanages in the Russian-backed separatist territories of Donbas. They include those whose parents were killed by Russian shelling as well as others in institutions or with foster families, known as “children of the state.”

    […]

    The investigation is the most extensive to date on the grab of Ukrainian children, and the first to follow the process all the way to those already growing up in Russia. The AP drew from dozens of interviews with parents, children and officials in both Ukraine and Russia; emails and letters; Russian documents and Russian state media.

    https://apnews.com/article/ukrainian-children-russia-7493cb22c9086c6293c1ac7986d85ef6?

  10. joe90 11

    Kazakhstan told him to jam it. Nek minit….

    • Francesca 11.1

      3 million Tajiks living and working in Russia because conditions are so much better than their home country may have a different take

  11. roy cartland 12

    Here's one for Shanreagh and Swordfish.

    Henry Cooke writes in the Guardian:

    Both top tax brackets raise little actual revenue in the wider scheme of things, as they have been set so high as to capture only a small slice of the population who can comfortably be described as “rich” without anyone raising their heckles. (my emph.)

    Now is he making a rather straightforward pun or a cryptic gag at the NZ accent's expense? Because as we all know, the G woudn't allow such a malapropism to pass without some deeper reason.

    Sorry to ruin your weekends.

    • Shanreagh 12.1

      I am not sure why this has been directed at me….but here goes…..

      I don't think he is being clever or punny. I do think he is ungrammatical or not using the phrase as it is used normally used and I cannot make sense of what he is trying to say. Some writers have trouble with the passive voice, and with using commonplace phrases, he has struggled with he/she/their.

      It would make more sense quite apart from the heckles/hackles mistake if he used the phrase in its normal way.

      without anyone raising their heckles.

      without raising anyone's hackles Correct.

      'or cause someone or some people to be upset ' MerriamWebster Dictionary

      And I don't agree with his premise. I think if we taxed the higher rates more then we could lower the rates for those on lower incomes. Any kind of extra income given to those on lower incomes allows a better lifestyle. It also stimulates the economy as it is often spent. Any kind of extra income given to those on higher incomes often leads to more being spent on trips overseas where someone else's economy benefits etc.

      I saw someone describing ‘a shot across the boughs’ recently which had me thinking of people firing into trees…..why?

      • SPC 12.1.1

        It might just be a pun on hackles and heckles, because of the heckling of the government since.

        • Roy Cartland 12.1.1.1

          Come on now. He didn't know the phrase and the G missed it. No pun, no irony. Makes one pissed.

  12. Incognito 13

    4/2 for Future West, congratulations MickySavage!

    Things were tight in Waitākere.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/476727/final-auckland-council-election-results-released

    • Ad 13.1

      Mark Allen you tinny bastard. Nice.

      • Incognito 13.1.1

        He was also the only candidate for the ward of the Waitākere Licensing Trust and was elected unopposed. Cosy little job, that is.

        • Ad 13.1.1.1

          The Waitakere Licensing Trust is a useful foray into governance experience of a really large local asset. Mark is on the Green side of the Labour-Green ticket, and was previously Council staff, and also runs a welfare organisation on the North Shore. He will be a good fit for the Trusts.

          Sometimes the determinant in politics is: who shows up. Mark did.

          • Incognito 13.1.1.1.1

            It was no reflection on Mark but one on the Trusts, which I have mixed feelings about. I think he’ll do a better than average job, which is a rare bonus nowadays. Genuine political engagement seems to be on a downward slide on all levels but particularly on the so-called lower ones 🙁

        • Sacha 13.1.1.2

          I noticed a few of the reform candidates made it onto the Trusts. How is the dynamic looking now?

          • Incognito 13.1.1.2.1

            I assume that you’re referring to the successful candidates of the Trusts Action Group; they have doubled their elected members to 4 in this election.

  13. X Socialist 14

    Talking of things British. This take on the real Winston Churchill, and the cult of Churchill, by Tariq Ali, is apt. Of course Ali being coloured, and some of his hypocrisy's must be taken into consideration. But for the most part he nails it. Churchill was probably one of the most reviled men of his times. I could never understand why he was so lauded in the colonies. At least that's the impression I have. It's funny how Churchill’s blatant racism is condemned nowdays. And even decades before. But modern racism is acceptable by all except that perpetrated by white men.

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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Dawn Chorus: Why 2023 will be a year of indecision & delay
    Hipkins’ aim this year will be to present a ‘low target’ for those seeking to attack Labour’s policies and spending. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: Anyone dealing with Government departments and councils who wants some sort of big or long-term decision out of officials or politicians this year should brace for ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Bryce Edwards: The Gamechanger PM and polls
    Last night’s opinion polls answered the big question of whether a switch of prime minister would really be a gamechanger for election year. The 1News and Newshub polls released at 6pm gave the same response: the shift from Jacinda Ardern to Chris Hipkins has changed everything, and Labour is back ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    5 days ago
  • After the deluge – initial thoughts on the Auckland floods
    Over the last few years, it’s seemed like city after city around the world has become subject to extreme flooding events that have been made worse by impacts from climate change. We’ve highlighted many of them in our Weekly Roundup series. Sadly, over the last few days it’s been Auckland’s ...
    5 days ago
  • Ever Get the Feeling You've Been Cheated?
    And so the first month of the year draws to a close. It rained in Auckland on 21 out of the 31 days in January. Feels like summer never really happened this year. It’s actually hard to believe there were 10 days that it didn’t rain. Was it any better where ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Ani O’Brien: Luxon can’t afford to continue ‘small target’ politics
    A ‘small target’ strategy is not going to cut it anymore if National want to win the upcoming election. The game has changed and the game plan needs to change as well. Jacinda Ardern’s abrupt departure from the 9th floor has the potential to derail what looked to be an ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    6 days ago
  • Shaking up science
    When Grant Robertson talks about how the economy might change post-covid, one of the things he talks about is what he calls an unsung but interesting white paper on science. “It’s really important,” he says. The Minister in charge of the White Paper —  Te Ara Paerangi, Future Pathways ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    6 days ago
  • Dusk Chorus: Auckland schools closed til Feb 7
    The clean up has begun but more rain is on the way. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: Auckland’s floods over the last three days are turning into a macroeconomic event, with losses from Aotearoa’s biggest-ever climate event estimated at around $500 million and Auckland’s schools all closed for a week until ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Dusk Chorus: Auckland schools closed til Feb 7
    The clean up has begun but more rain is on the way. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: Auckland’s floods over the last three days are turning into a macroeconomic event, with losses from Aotearoa’s biggest-ever climate event estimated at around $500 million and Auckland’s schools all closed for a week until ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • How we get a new Prime Minister – it’s a simple matter of vice-regal appointment without a swear...
    The news media were at one ceremony by the looks of things. The Governor-General, the  Prime Minister and his deputy were at another. The news  media were at a swearing-in ceremony. The country’s leaders were at an appointment ceremony. The New Zealand Gazette record of what transpired says: Appointment of ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago

  • Advancing our relationship in India
    Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta departs for India tomorrow as she continues to reconnect Aotearoa New Zealand to the world.  The visit will begin in New Delhi where the Foreign Minister will meet with the Vice President Hon Jagdeep Dhankar and her Indian Government counterparts, External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    9 hours ago
  • Government Northland housing investment to spark transformational change
    Over $10 million infrastructure funding to unlock housing in Whangārei The purchase of a 3.279 hectare site in Kerikeri to enable 56 new homes Northland becomes eligible for $100 million scheme for affordable rentals Multiple Northland communities will benefit from multiple Government housing investments, delivering thousands of new homes for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Battle of Ohaeawai remembered
    A memorial event at a key battle site in the New Zealand land wars is an important event to mark the progress in relations between Māori and the Crown as we head towards Waitangi Day, Minister for Te Arawhiti Kelvin Davis said. The Battle of Ohaeawai in June 1845 saw ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • More Police deployed to the frontline
    More Police officers are being deployed to the frontline with the graduation of 54 new constables from the Royal New Zealand Police College today. The graduation ceremony for Recruit Wing 362 at Te Rauparaha Arena in Porirua was the first official event for Stuart Nash since his reappointment as Police ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Further support for upper North Island regions hit by significant weather
    The Government is unlocking an additional $700,000 in support for regions that have been badly hit by the recent flooding and storm damage in the upper North Island. “We’re supporting the response and recovery of Auckland, Waikato, Coromandel, Northland, and Bay of Plenty regions, through activating Enhanced Taskforce Green to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • The Princess Royal to visit New Zealand
    Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has welcomed the announcement that Her Royal Highness The Princess Royal, Princess Anne, will visit New Zealand this month. “Princess Anne is travelling to Aotearoa at the request of the NZ Army’s Royal New Zealand Corps of Signals, of which she is Colonel in Chief, to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government and horticulture sector target $12b in exports by 2035
    A new Government and industry strategy launched today has its sights on growing the value of New Zealand’s horticultural production to $12 billion by 2035, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor said. “Our food and fibre exports are vital to New Zealand’s economic security. We’re focussed on long-term strategies that build on ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Cost of living support extended for families and businesses
    25 cents per litre petrol excise duty cut extended to 30 June 2023 – reducing an average 60 litre tank of petrol by $17.25 Road User Charge discount will be re-introduced and continue through until 30 June Half price public transport fares extended to the end of June 2023 saving ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • More Kiwis in work as rising wages match inflation
    The strong economy has attracted more people into the workforce, with a record number of New Zealanders in paid work and wages rising to help with cost of living pressures. “The Government’s economic plan is delivering on more better-paid jobs, growing wages and creating more opportunities for more New Zealanders,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government boosts fund for Auckland flooding
    The Government is providing a further $1 million to the Mayoral Relief Fund to help communities in Auckland following flooding, Minister for Emergency Management Kieran McAnulty announced today. “Cabinet today agreed that, given the severity of the event, a further $1 million contribution be made. Cabinet wishes to be proactive ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • New Cabinet focused on bread and butter issues
    The new Cabinet will be focused on core bread and butter issues like the cost of living, education, health, housing and keeping communities and businesses safe, Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has announced. “We need a greater focus on what’s in front of New Zealanders right now. The new Cabinet line ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Prime Minister to meet with PM Albanese
    Prime Minister Chris Hipkins will travel to Canberra next week for an in person meeting with Australian Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese. “The trans-Tasman relationship is New Zealand’s closest and most important, and it was crucial to me that my first overseas trip as Prime Minister was to Australia,” Chris Hipkins ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government makes first payment to Auckland Flooding fund
    The Government is providing establishment funding of $100,000 to the Mayoral Relief Fund to help communities in Auckland following flooding, Minister for Emergency Management Kieran McAnulty announced. “We moved quickly to make available this funding to support Aucklanders while the full extent of the damage is being assessed,” Kieran McAnulty ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government steps up to assist Auckland during flooding
    As the Mayor of Auckland has announced a state of emergency, the Government, through NEMA, is able to step up support for those affected by flooding in Auckland. “I’d urge people to follow the advice of authorities and check Auckland Emergency Management for the latest information. As always, the Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Poroporoaki: Titewhai Te Huia Hinewhare Harawira
    Ka papā te whatitiri, Hikohiko ana te uira, wāhi rua mai ana rā runga mai o Huruiki maunga Kua hinga te māreikura o te Nota, a Titewhai Harawira Nā reira, e te kahurangi, takoto, e moe Ka mōwai koa a Whakapara, kua uhia te Tai Tokerau e te kapua pōuri ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Enhanced Task Force Green Approved following Cyclone Hale
    Carmel Sepuloni, Minister for Social Development and Employment, has activated Enhanced Taskforce Green (ETFG) in response to flooding and damaged caused by Cyclone Hale in the Tairāwhiti region. Up to $500,000 will be made available to employ job seekers to support the clean-up. We are still investigating whether other parts ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • General Election to be held on 14 October 2023
    The 2023 General Election will be held on Saturday 14 October 2023, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. “Announcing the election date early in the year provides New Zealanders with certainty and has become the practice of this Government and the previous one, and I believe is best practice,” Jacinda ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announces resignation
    Jacinda Ardern has announced she will step down as Prime Minister and Leader of the Labour Party. Her resignation will take effect on the appointment of a new Prime Minister. A caucus vote to elect a new Party Leader will occur in 3 days’ time on Sunday the 22nd of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago