You can draw your own conclusions. Speaking only for myself, I would never want to be associated with most of these people. But it's important to know who they are, and what they really believe, in their own words.
Apparently civil unions and gay marriage are to blame, who knew?
Yeah those children and their occupation of Parliament, blocking motorways, supporting vandals and other provocative moves the police get involved with but hey free country and all that…..for now.
The article felt like a scattergun hit piece against some high profile people rather than address the issues they and others are concerned about. Kinda the norm for reportage from that side of the fence.
The part of the story that interests me is the young woman who had a double mastectomy. This happened, presumably because the medical professionals are either incompetent, or most likely, concerned about their professional reputation and just went through the motions.
Any good journalist should have jumped on this story as a case of medical malpractice. Obviously this is not a concern with the news organisation he works for.
Dripping with biases (even “spoiled children” 'ave 'em ), and links (~14).
I try to keep an open mind, and am perhaps luckier than most to have two gender-nonconforming niblings. To my shame, there was a time when I didn’t consider it 'lucky', but over the years my biases and concerns have ebbed.
… there was a deeper story here …
Maybe more than one, but who will have the courage to tell them.
They may not be typical of people who have transitioned to another gender. And they are not a judgement on the decisions of other trans people, be they trans men, trans women or non-binary.
Both of these young people are conscious of how stories of detransition have been used by transphobic organisations and commentators to invalidate the experience of trans and non-binary people, and attack their hard-fought access to health care. Neither Ellie nor Nele deny the rights of trans people. They do, however, question whether transition is always the right solution.
But in an article we recently published in JAMA Surgery, we challenge the notion that transgender people often regret gender-affirming surgeries.
Evidence suggests that less than 1% of transgender people who undergo gender-affirming surgery report regret. That proportion is even more striking when compared to the fact that 14.4% of the broader population reports regret after similar surgeries.
It is not "gender affirming care". It affects the primary and secondary SEX characteristics by means of chemical castration with "off brand" medications, followed by sterilization and mutilation by the removal of healthy organs. Add in a lifetime dependency on artificial sex hormones.
And then they bleat and say that "gender is not sex".
This article looks at studies that show regret rates ranging from 1% to 30%.
They say this:
The issue here is that neither of these extremes are reliable estimates of regret. The 30 percent figure obviously does not map onto regret. Many people stop using their parent or partner’s health care for reasons completely unrelated to transition regret (i.e., divorce). And the studies of surgery in the review are mostly surgeons following up with their own patients, with quite high dropout rates. It’s not surprising that only 1 percent of people report to a surgeon who did an operation that they regret it!
…and…
Perhaps the most useful way to examine regret is to look at the proportion of people who cease their transition and go back to the gender they were originally. A large national study found that 13.1 percent of transgender people participating in the U.S. Transgender Survey reported detransitioning at some point in their lives. I think that’s a fairly reasonable estimate of the rate of people experiencing some measure of regret around their transition experience.
Ultimately, the question of what proportion of kids or adults regret their transition is only important to a select group: the people who want to transition, and their clinicians. At worst, the rate of regret is still better than other treatments which don’t require national debates over their use, which really begs the question of why anyone who isn’t directly involved with the treatment of transgender people is even weighing in on the topic at all.
Yep, it really begs the question. I received my answer(s) quiet and clear.
You might want to look again at the Cass Review report. It details very well why there is no good evidence base for the efficacy of "gender affirming care" for young people. Part of the reason is that any attempt to do good research about rates of regret – or the "complications" rate of the surgeries, is met with the usual resistance and abuse.
Fair enough, although I broadly agree with the concluding opinions expressed by the author (Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz) of the (imho balanced and well-researched) article you linked to and quoted from @4:08 pm – so thanks for that.
Ultimately, the question of what proportion of kids or adults regret their transition is only important to a select group: the people who want to transition, and their clinicians.
It absolutely has to be widely debated.
Of course; anyone can weigh in on the topic, but Meyerowitz-Katz makes an interesting point about to how much weight should be given to individual opinions. I had opinions about the wisdom of some of the choices my niblings have made over the last 3 or so years, and only some of those opinions have changed.
But I don't get to impose my sensibilities on my niblings, and I won't cut them off (perhaps an unfortunate phrase in context) for their choices, and hope that they won't cut me off, in spite of my 'I know what's best for you' attitude – which (fwiw) I still struggle with.
…Meyerowitz-Katz makes an interesting point about to how much weight should be given to individual opinions.
Actually their point is absurd.
Should the opinions of the wider medical fraternity be given weight? Should, for example, medical professionals be able to provide other treatment beside gender affirming treatment (GAT), or should providing any treatment other than GAT be illegal,as it is now in Canada? (Reckless Consent: Issues with Gender-Affirming Treatment | C2C Journal)
Should the opinions of parents of transitioning children be given weight? Or should the only approach offered by GAT practitioners in many Western jurisdictions be unconditional acceptance of the patient’s feelings? (Reckless Consent: Issues with Gender-Affirming Treatment | C2C Journal).
Weka presents other examples below.
When we are discussing irreversible medical procedures being performed on highly vulnerable young people, the mere notion that only that young person and their medical practitioner should have a say is, IMHO, dangerous.
Imho, an article that an individual can selectively quote from in support of their views, while also stating that a point the author makes "is absurd", can't be all bad.
Believe it or not, I used to think very much like you on this topic, but personal experience is an excellent teacher, and so while my natural inclination still leans towards a conservative view (which is pretty unusual for me), I must (now) also acknowledge that not all young people who undergo gender-affirming treatments view these as harmful, let alone "mutilation".
And, tbh, the more this topic gets discussed on TS (and imho it gets discussed a lot), the more I learn and regret my earlier ham-fisted efforts to set my niblings on a path that would still be easier for me – with the benefit of hindsight those efforts did more harm than good.
Of course, I also recognise that not transitioning in the first place would have been a better decision for some young people, hence the link to Ellie's and Nele's stories @1.2.1.1.1.1.
"I must (now) also acknowledge that not all young people who undergo gender-affirming treatments view these as harmful, let alone "mutilation"."
Perhaps because a very great number are already vulnerable. Perhaps because they are too close to be objective? Which is a valid reason wider input and discussion is required.
Which is a valid reason wider input and discussion is required.
Yep, and that well-researched article you provided a link to, and quoted from to support your views, has faciliated discussion here.
Perhaps because a very great number are already vulnerable. Perhaps because they are too close to be objective?
Perhaps, perhaps – and perhaps because, for some, these treatments are beneficial? My initial judgements about the vulnerability of my niblings, and them being too close to be objective, were (I like to think) well-intentioned, but, with the benefit of hindsight, I made bad calls in my attempt to persuade them to make what I truly believed would be better choices for all concerned.
I (still) don't fully understand why my niblings made the choices they did, but they seem happy, and I'm trying to be content with that, even though some of the consequences still rankle.
And I'm still of the opinion that "on balance, it’s better to delay/withhold most/all irreversible [gender-affirming] interventions for as long as possible", but if I could do it all again then I wouldn't go in all guns blazing. Who knows what might have been.
which really begs the question of why anyone who isn’t directly involved with the treatment of transgender people is even weighing in on the topic at all.
I didn't read the article, but this is very, very weird.
1. women's sex based rights are at risk from males transitioning and insisting they are women. Women have a right to weigh in.
2. detrans people aren't getting the support and medical care they need because apparently only trans people deserve that. Detrans people have a right to weigh in.
3. there is a specific set of gender critical activists who are the parents of children that transition or want to transition and where those parents believe it is a very serious mistake. They have a right to weigh in.
4. It's very strange to see liberals making such a distinct libertarian argument, that extreme body modification is between the person and their doctor, especially after Cass. Those of us who see transhumanism as a threat to humans and nature, have the right to weigh in.
5. Some of the people who have transitioned turned out to be lesbian or gay and/or autistic and they were subject to medical malpractice. It's a kind of conversion therapy. LGB people have a right to weigh in as do neurodiverse people.
6. Society pays not only for transition, but life long medical costs. Society has a right to weigh in.
7. Transwidows have a right to weigh in.
8. regret about knee surgery is not like transition regret. Patient rights advocates have a right to weigh in.
9. whatever the issues around regret, there are also issues in the number of people who were transitioned by malpractice. Regret is not the right word for the feelings of detrans people who were put on a medical pathway as a young child, or got caught up in social contagion as a preteen or teen, or who grew up in a homophobic family/community society and hated their sex and were convinced that transitioning was the solution. Everyone who cares about children and young adults has a right to weigh in on that.
I did read the article and it was incredibly lazy and incurious. He makes eminently fair criticisms of Brian Tamaki and other fringe figures whose rhetoric tends towards unhinged violence.
But the reporter makes less than zero effort to understand the core arguments of the GC position – it is a literal smear job.
The media loves to platform the loonies and ignore the left wing GC feminists who stick to the science and human rights arguments. In this the Spinoff (and idpol left) is a mirror image of the emotive bullshit from Tamaki and Posie Parker.
And why is it always low-T millennial dudes taking these potshots?
Perhaps the most useful way to examine regret is to look at the proportion of people who cease their transition and go back to the gender they were originally. A large national study found that 13.1 percent of transgender people participating in the U.S. Transgender Survey reported detransitioning at some point in their lives. I think that’s a fairly reasonable estimate of the rate of people experiencing some measure of regret around their transition experience.
For the USA at least. Other nations might have different rates – the difference may be based on the rates of transitioning (as per health care practice), or cultural factors.
there are too many people who cannot go back to the gender they were. Once your penis has been removed and you have a simulacrum of a vagina inserted in your body, there is little going back.
Some of the effects of artificial hormone treatment aren't reversible.
Puberty blockers aren't reversible depending on the age/stage they were starting and how long they were taken.
Anyone who has an opinion on transition needs to listen to the succinct and very clear 3min testimony of this young man,
I would hope that the real story is that surgeons are removing healthy appendages of young people who have not received the proper care and treatment from medical professionals.
Are you arguing that there should be no such surgical procedures for those under 18?
At the moment the focus has been on no use of puberty blockers (ignoring the fact that the original purpose to delay early onset puberty remains) and no hormone treatments under age 18.
We should have a moratorium on surgery, hormonal treatments, and PBs in people under 18, until as a society we get past No Debate and the issues can be looked at in valid ways. At the moment people in academia and medicine are too scare to speak. There is no ethical medical treatment under those conditions.
There should be no surgical and hormonal treatment for anyone until the needs of detrans people are acknowledge and medical and health system supports are put in place around detrans healthcare. Again, there is no ethical medical treatment until that happens.
In any other area of medicine, what I just said wouldn't be controversial.
No surgical or hormonal treatment for anyone (as per different to birth sex for gender dysphoria reasons) – including private and paid for … until there is support for “detrans healthcare”?
What detrans health care (not available now) would that be?
Medical (PB, hormonal, and/or surgical transition) means becoming a lifelong patient.
Sometimes after surgery, other surgeries are needed to fix the first one or the complications. People having simulacrum vaginas can end up with a wound that extends into the bowel. That means the shit leaks out. This can be life threatening if not treated properly.
Post-mastectomy pain is not unusual. Nor bladder issues and pain.
And so on. All of this should be known and support available to deal with it. Trans people seem to be getting follow up surgeries some of the time, I hear detrans people talking about how difficult it has been to get that follow up care once they say they are detrans.
Afaik there are no specialist services. So while trans people can get affirmation only care, detrans people can't get support around being detrans.
I've actually not seen a good write up on this, I just know from following a lot of detrans people on twitter and watching/listening to them speaking.
the state of what I am referring to is criminal imo. The problem is that the pro-transition medical community can't be honest about the situation because then they'd have to be honest about how experimental the surgeries are, and the failure rates.
But because of trans ideology, no-one will or is allowed to talk about it. There have been whistle blowers that have worked in clinics, so we know some of what is going on from them in addition to listening to detrans people.
Also, fuck all the people who have supported No Debate. I'd be writing about this on TS weekly if I could.
Given the woman decided to be a transgender man at age 18 and did not have the breast removal until age 26 – it is one separate from the campaign to end puberty blocking and transitioning support to those under age 18.
The issue there is that she was identifying as male for 8 years, apparently because of body dysmorphia.
The conference is about the transitioning of children and young people, it's not limited to PBs and medical transition (nor for many others).
it's unlikely that Mel Jeffries suddenly decided to be a man at 18. She would have been exposed to trans ideology before then. She also says she couldn't have given informed consent because she wasn't given the relevant information.
We are told less than 1% regret doing this. We are told the "informed consent" model works. But let me ask you, how can we give informed consent if we aren't given accurate information to base these permanent, life altering decisions off?
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Let me ask you something: if you were told you have cancer, underwent chemo and had your breasts removed and later found out you never had cancer – how would you feel? This is analogous to our experiences as detrans people.
""They [Government] seem to be talking about the fact that because we built 13,000 additional houses, Kāinga Ora has more debt and they seem to be talking about that as if it's a terrible thing," he said."
"…the Board followed directives from the previous government to rapidly increase the number of additional social houses."
"…we consider that the imperative to increase the number of houses rapidly has resulted in a high-cost structure and poor financial discipline."
and
"Kāinga Ora is struggling to meet its delivery targets. In the absence of acquisitions, their build programme would not be meeting its annual targets. Over the last five years, it built on average 2,400 gross homes each year, growing the stock by on average 1,600 net homes each year. Kāinga Ora forecasts procuring on average
4,600 new build homes each year and are already not meeting this plan."
The conclusion to that so called report was most likely written prior to the so called report. It's SOP when you want to find things wrong in an organisation, and BE is hardly independent and surprise, surprise! He comes up with Social Housing.Now who was it that introduced that during the last Nat admin?
I suppose you do not care that National's focus on financial discipline is a cover for having no intent to increase social housing stock – just transfer some of Kainga Ora housing to other providers to provide a stronger social housing market.
This despite the fact that the numbers of disabled and those unable to work because of health problems is growing. And the number of people reaching retirement age without home ownership is growing.
One of the expectations of nations of the UN is The Universal Declaration of Human Rights – it does mention housing.
You could express an opinion on the point … rather than not …
Until the Government has received and approved the turnaround plan demanded of the refreshed board, no further funding will be budgeted for the organisation to deliver additional social housing places.
There is as yet no known commitment to increase Kainga Ora housing stock numbers – new homes at a rate to replace demolished stock or higher or higher …and a suggestion of transferring to other social housing providers to strengthen that market.
Fun question – is there any evidence of social housing stock increasing under a National led government in the past 40 years?
All we have is 1500 places over * 3 years to other social housing providers instead of supporting people into first homes.
One might well compare that to the rate that Kainga Ora has being buying (and or leasing) on the market to let at income related rent.
“”The National Party insists there has been no conflict of interest in David Macleod’s chairing the committee considering the contentious fast-track bill.
“”The New Plymouth MP received $10,000 from a donor with shares in a company hoping to benefit from the legislation.
Corruption in the open , national knows nothing will happen so don’t even try cover it up
“The Big Oil Reality Check data illustrates these companies’ dangerous commitment to profit at all cost,” said Tong.
UN expert attacks ‘exploitative’ world economy in fight to save planet [7 May 2024]
Outgoing special rapporteur David Boyd says ‘there’s something wrong with our brains that we can’t understand how grave this is’
…
This article was amended on 8 May 2024. An earlier version said that [annual] fossil fuels subsidies had reached $7tn with a rise of “$2m” since 2021. The rise was in fact $2tn.
"Throw is some cognitive dissonance, craven greenwashing and faux concern and here we are. Profit before planet."
Wonder if any of MacLeod's big donors will be concerned that he may be prone to making 'errors' of an "inadvertent" kind. Probably not, as long as he ums and errs in their favour.
Yes Peter and he lets Luxon carry out long election rants but seldom answers the question. Pointless having QT really. And much harder to run the On Demand and then not till the following day.
The House is in decline and so is coverage of it at the parliament site.
It is part of the lowering of standards across "government" since the election – if Transparency International does not do a downgrade we can resume they are not paying close attention (elsewhere either?).
They ended a programme to support people into housing ownership they began in 2017 and say they will transfer the money to providing social housing places instead.
The language is sort of implying payments to providers on a per person basis, same way as the word "places" is used in tertiary education funding or social programs.
Maybe, but they are framing it as enabling other social housing providers to have some guarantee of funding for new supply (even if it is merely $600 a week for each new place, rather than the cost of the new building supply up front).
“The Government’s new investment in 1,500 social housing places will start to become available from July 2025 onwards, giving the community housing sector much-needed certainty about the social housing pipeline, allowing them to plan for the future, and scale-up their build programmes.
I think they are still pushing that "short term help", not considering how disruptive being moved on from temporary places truly is to schooling work and community.
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The Finance and Expenditure Committee has reported back on National's Local Government (Water Services Preliminary Arrangements) Bill. The bill sets up water for privatisation, and was introduced under urgency, then rammed through select committee with no time even for local councils to make a proper submission. Naturally, national's select committee ...
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History is not on the side of the centre-left, when Democratic presidents fall behind in the polls and choose not to run for re-election. On both previous occasions in the past 75 years (Harry Truman in 1952, Lyndon Johnson in 1968) the Democrats proceeded to then lose the White House ...
This is a free articleCoverageThis morning, US President Joe Biden announced his withdrawal from the Presidential race. And that is genuinely newsworthy. Thanks for your service, President Biden, and all the best to you and yours.However, the media in New Zealand, particularly the 1News nightly bulletin, has been breathlessly covering ...
A homeless person’s camp beside a blocked-off slipped damage walkway in Freeman’s Bay: we are chasing our tail on our worsening and inter-related housing, poverty and climate crises. Photo: Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy ...
What has happened to it all?Crazy, some'd sayWhere is the life that I recognise?(Gone away)But I won't cry for yesterdayThere's an ordinary worldSomehow I have to findAnd as I try to make my wayTo the ordinary worldYesterday morning began as many others - what to write about today? I began ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Monday, July 22 are:Today’s Must Read: Father and son live in a tent, and have done for four years, in a million ...
TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Monday, July 22, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:US President Joe Biden announced via X this morning he would not stand for a second term.Multinational professional services firm ...
A listing of 32 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, July 14, 2024 thru Sat, July 20, 2024. Story of the week As reflected by preponderance of coverage, our Story of the Week is Project 2025. Until now traveling ...
This weekend, a friend pointed out someone who said they’d like to read my posts, but didn’t want to pay. And my first reaction was sympathy.I’ve already told folks that if they can’t comfortably subscribe, and would like to read, I’d be happy to offer free subscriptions. I don’t want ...
National: The Party of ‘Law and Order’ IntroductionThis weekend, the Government formally kicked off one of their flagship policy programs: a military style boot camp that New Zealand has experimented with over the past 50 years. Cartoon credit: Guy BodyIt’s very popular with the National Party’s Law and Orderimage, ...
Day one of the solo leg of my long journey home begins with my favourite sound: footfalls in an empty street. 5.00 am and it’s already light and already too warm, almost.If I can make the train that leaves Budapest later this hour I could be in Belgrade by nightfall; ...
Do you remember Y2K, the threat that hung over humanity in the closing days of the twentieth century? Horror scenarios of planes falling from the sky, electronic payments failing and ATMs refusing to dispense cash. As for your VCR following instructions and recording your favourite show - forget about it.All ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts being questioned by The Kākā’s Bernard Hickey.TL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the week to July 20 were:1. A strategy that fails Zero Carbon Act & Paris targetsThe National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government finally unveiled ...
Summary:As New Zealand loses at least 12 leaders in the public service space of health, climate, and pharmaceuticals, this month alone, directly in response to the Government’s policies and budget choices, what lies ahead may be darker than it appears. Tui examines some of those departures and draws a long ...
The Minister of Housing’s ambition is to reduce markedly the ratio of house prices to household incomes. If his strategy works it would transform the housing market, dramatically changing the prospects of housing as an investment.Leaving aside the Minister’s metaphor of ‘flooding the market’ I do not see how the ...
As previously noted, my historical fantasy piece, set in the fifth-century Mediterranean, was accepted for a Pirate Horror anthology, only for the anthology to later fall through. But in a good bit of news, it turned out that the story could indeed be re-marketed as sword and sorcery. As of ...
An employee of tobacco company Philip Morris International demonstrates a heated tobacco device. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy on Friday, July 19 are:At a time when the Coalition Government is cutting spending on health, infrastructure, education, housing ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 8:30 am on Friday, July 19 are:Scoop: NZ First Minister Casey Costello orders 50% cut to excise tax on heated tobacco products. The minister has ...
Kia ora, it’s time for another Friday roundup, in which we pull together some of the links and stories that caught our eye this week. Feel free to add more in the comments! Our header image this week shows a foggy day in Auckland town, captured by Patrick Reynolds. ...
TL;DR : Here’s the top six items climate news for Aotearoa this week, as selected by Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent Cathrine Dyer. A discussion recorded yesterday is in the video above and the audio of that sent onto the podcast feed.The Government released its draft Emissions Reduction ...
Save some money, get rich and old, bring it back to Tobacco Road.Bring that dynamite and a crane, blow it up, start all over again.Roll up. Roll up. Or tailor made, if you prefer...Whether you’re selling ciggies, digging for gold, catching dolphins in your nets, or encouraging folks to flutter ...
Waiting In The Wings:For truly, if Trump is America’s un-assassinated Caesar, then J.D. Vance is America’s Octavian, the Republic’s youthful undertaker – and its first Emperor.DONALD TRUMP’S SELECTION of James D. Vance as his running-mate bodes ill for the American republic. A fervent supporter of Viktor Orban, the “illiberal” prime ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Friday, July 19, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:The PSAannounced the Employment Relations Authority (ERA) had ruled in the PSA’s favour in its case against the Ministry ...
TL;DR: The podcast above of the weekly ‘hoon’ webinar for paying subscribers last night features co-hosts and talking with:The Kākā’s climate correspondent talking about the National-ACT-NZ First Government’s release of its first Emissions Reduction Plan;University of Otago Foreign Relations Professor and special guest Dr Karin von ...
Open access notablesImproving global temperature datasets to better account for non-uniform warming, Calvert, Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society:To better account for spatial non-uniform trends in warming, a new GITD [global instrumental temperature dataset] was created that used maximum likelihood estimation (MLE) to combine the land surface ...
A late change to charter school legislation will cheat educators out of fair pay and negotiating power proving charter schools are just a vehicle to make profit out of our education system. ...
In 2004 te iwi Māori rallied against the Crown’s attempt to confiscate our coastlines and moana with the Foreshore and Seabed Act. This led to the largest hīkoi of a generation and the birth of Te Pāti Māori. 20 years later, history is repeating itself. Today the government has announced ...
It has been five and a half years since the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care was established to investigate the abuse of children, young people, and vulnerable adults within state and faith-based institutions. Yesterday, the final report - Whanaketia through pain and trauma, from darkness to light ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to take action off the back of the International Court of Justice ruling on Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine. ...
On Friday the International Court of Justice reaffirmed what Palestinian’s have been telling us for decades: that the occupation and colonisation of Palestinian lands by Israel is illegal and must end immediately. They also called for reparations for Palestinian’s who have lived under Israeli occupation since it began in 1967. ...
Labour calls on the Government to act after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territories is illegal. ...
The 53.7 percent rise in benefit sanctions over the last year is more proof of this Government’s disdain for our communities most in need of support. ...
Aotearoa could be a country where every child grows up feeling safe, loved and with a sense of belonging in their whānau and community. But for some of our children, this is far from reality. Instead, they are trapped in a maze of intergenerational harm that they can’t escape on ...
Te Pāti Māori are calling for David Seymour to resign as Associate Health Minister in response to his call for Pharmac to ignore the Treaty of Waitangi. “This announcement is just another example of the government’s anti-Tiriti, anti-Māori agenda.” Said Co-leader and spokesperson for health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. “Seymour thinks it ...
The soaring price of renting is driving the rise of inflation in this country - with latest figures from Stats NZ showing rents are up 4.8 per cent on average while annual inflation is at 3.3 per cent. ...
National’s Emissions Reduction Plan will take New Zealand further from the economy we need to ensure the next generation has a stable climate and secure livelihoods. ...
Following consultation with named parties and thorough consideration of privacy interests, the Green Party is in a position to release the Executive Summary of the final report from the independent investigation into Darleen Tana. ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon should be asking serious questions of his Minister for Resources Shane Jones now it’s been revealed he misled the public about a dinner with mining companies that he didn’t declare and said wasn’t pre-arranged. ...
Te Pāti Māori have submitted to the Justice Select Committee against the Sentencing (Reinstating Three Strikes) Amendment Bill. The bill will further entrench racism in our justice system and fails to focus on rehabilitation. “Reinstating Three Strikes will empower a systematically racist system and exacerbate the overrepresentation of Māori in ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee is set to make a determination on the Residential Tenancies Amendment (RTA) Bill in the coming weeks. “This legislation will give landlords the power to kick our whānau out onto the street for no reason” said Housing spokesperson, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “Their solution to the housing ...
“National’s campaign was about tackling crime and the best they can do is a two-year long Ministerial Advisory Group,” Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
“There are more examples of charter schools failing their students than there are success stories. The coalition Government is driving to dismantle our public school system and instead promote a privatised, competitive structure that puts profits before kids,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
“This government is choosing to deliberately mislead and withhold information, keeping our people in the dark about this government’s agenda and the future of our mokopuna,” said co-leader and spokesperson for Health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. The call comes after the demand from the Chief Ombudsman that Associate Minister of Health, Casey ...
“Today’s climate announcement by Simon Watts makes clear the National Government is simply paying lip service to meeting its climate change targets,” Megan Woods said. ...
National is choosing to make life harder for workers by taking away the rights our communities have fought hard for. Here's how they’re taking workers backwards. ...
Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on the need for an urgent ceasefire in Gaza and the risk of expanded conflict between Hizballah and Israel. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue. We remain unequivocal in our condemnation of ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today reminded all State and faith-based institutions of their legal obligation to preserve records relevant to the safety and wellbeing of those in its care. “The Abuse in Care Inquiry’s report has found cases where records of the most vulnerable people in State and faith‑based institutions were ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government’s online safety website for children and young people has reached one million page views. “It is great to see so many young people and their families accessing the site Keep It Real Online to learn how to stay safe online, and manage ...
Tēnā tātou katoa, Ngā mihi te rangi, ngā mihi te whenua, ngā mihi ki a koutou, kia ora mai koutou. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and the invitation to speak at this 50th anniversary conference. I acknowledge all those who have gone before us and paved the ...
New Zealand’s payroll providers have successfully prepared to ensure 3.5 million individuals will, from Wednesday next week, be able to keep more of what they earn each pay, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Revenue Minister Simon Watts. “The Government's tax policy changes are legally effective from Wednesday. Delivering this tax ...
An experimental vineyard which will help futureproof the wine sector has been opened in Blenheim by Associate Regional Development Minister Mark Patterson. The covered vineyard, based at the New Zealand Wine Centre – Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa, enables controlled environmental conditions. “The research that will be produced at the Experimental ...
The Coalition Government has confirmed the indicative regional breakdown of North Island Weather Event (NIWE) funding for state highway recovery projects funded through Budget 2024, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Regions in the North Island suffered extensive and devastating damage from Cyclone Gabrielle and the 2023 Auckland Anniversary Floods, and ...
Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Retno Marsudi, will visit New Zealand next week, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “Indonesia is important to New Zealand’s security and economic interests and is our closest South East Asian neighbour,” says Mr Peters, who is currently in Laos to engage with South East Asian partners. ...
He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting the aspirations of Ngāti Maniapoto, Minister for Māori Development Tama Potaka says. “My thanks to Te Nehenehenui Trust – Ngāti Maniapoto for bringing their important kōrero to a ministerial ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has thanked outgoing Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority, Janice Fredric, for her service to the board.“I have received Ms Fredric’s resignation from the role of Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority,” Mr Brown says.“On behalf of the Government, I want to thank Ms Fredric for ...
The Government is proposing legislation to overturn a Court of Appeal decision and amend the Marine and Coastal Area Act in order to restore Parliament’s test for Customary Marine Title, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Section 58 required an applicant group to prove they have exclusively used and occupied ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour says that opposition parties have united in bad faith, opposing what they claim are ‘dangerous changes’ to the Early Childhood Education sector, despite no changes even being proposed yet. “Issues with affordability and availability of early childhood education, and the complexity of its regulation, has led ...
After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks. “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. At the heart of this report are the ...
For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024. “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane. “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says. “This will be our third visit to ...
Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today. “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum. While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation. “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan. “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
Acting Prime Minister David Seymour has been in contact throughout the evening with senior officials who have coordinated a whole of government response to the global IT outage and can provide an update. The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet has designated the National Emergency Management Agency as the ...
New Zealand and Japan will continue to step up their shared engagement with the Pacific, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “New Zealand and Japan have a strong, shared interest in a free, open and stable Pacific Islands region,” Mr Peters says. “We are pleased to be finding more ways ...
New developments in the heart of North Island forestry country will reinvigorate their communities and boost economic development, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones visited Kaingaroa and Kawerau in Bay of Plenty today to open a landmark community centre in the former and a new connecting road in ...
President Adeang, fellow Ministers, honourable Diet Member Horii, Ambassadors, distinguished guests. Minasama, konnichiwa, and good afternoon, everyone. Distinguished guests, it’s a pleasure to be here with you today to talk about New Zealand’s foreign policy reset, the reasons for it, the values that underpin it, and how it ...
Last summer when Matairangi burned, Ginny and Tom stood at the window of their lounge, watching kākā shoot skyward from the burning trees. From the distance, they looked to Ginny like pages torn from books and thrown into a bonfire. It was Tom, voice tight, who told her it was ...
Opinion: The Canadian short story writer Alice Munro – winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2013 – died in May at the age of 92. Her work was about “the damage people inflict on one another in the name of love”, Deborah Treisman wrote in the New Yorker. ...
This month marks two years since the most powerful telescope ever built sent its first pictures back to earth. From its lofty vantage point, beyond the moon in orbit around the sun, the James Webb Space Telescope was tuned to observe the first stars and galaxies being born soon after ...
Comment: After Climate Change Minister Simon Watts’ preview several weeks ago, I had some optimism about the Government’s emissions reduction plan. Now I’ve read the discussion document, that hope has been dashed. How can the Government propose a plan that wants to take New Zealand taxpayers’ hard-earned money, and spend ...
Christopher Luxon: hurdles The little man from National jumps hurdles in his sleep. He’s quite good at it in his dreams and even though the reality doesn’t quite match up you have to give him credit for getting up every morning and crashing into the very first hurdle of the ...
Comment: It was a good two hours into the conversation when Tyrone Marks raised the most basic of questions when I first spoke to him in 2017. “They didn’t explain the things they did to me. They never told me why. And they still haven’t. There’s no explanation for it. ...
Madeleine Chapman rounds out Death Week on The Spinoff with a final recommendation. You can read all of our Death Week coverage here. Nothing forces you to reflect on your life and relationships quite like proximity to death. For those whose nearest and dearest have died, there are reasonably obvious ...
Whitney Greene takes us through her life in television, including the TV character she’d like to plan a funeral for and her cow lung catastrophe on The Traitors NZ. “If the phone rings, I have to answer it,” Whitney Greene from The Traitors NZ warns as we begin our My ...
Maddie Ballard reviews the debut essay collection of Pōneke writer Flora Feltham.In ‘The Raw Material’, the longest essay in Flora Feltham’s dazzling debut collection, the author heads out for a run after hours of weaving and sees the world turn to textile. “Pounding along the Parade, I saw the ...
Andy Christiansen, one half of the experimental rock-pop duo TRiPS, shares the tunes inspiring the band’s perfect weekend and new release. “Good speakers, good food, good music, no distractions”: that’s all you need to enjoy the psychedelic stylings of TRiPS, a new band formed by Fly My Pretties’ Barnaby Weir ...
Celebrating our quadrennial opportunity to become experts in a bunch of sports we never normally watch.The games of the XXXIII Olympiad are upon us. Paris will host this year’s showcase of sporting and athletic prowess, which means some late-night and early-morning viewing for us in Aotearoa.But what sports ...
The photograph is striking and beautiful, but also disturbing – a reminder that my love for John was often entangled in shame.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.In the spring of 1980, in Dunedin, shortly before his death, someone took a photograph ...
Get to know Babushka, our latest Dog of the Month. This feature was offered as a reward during our What’s Eating Aotearoa PledgeMe campaign. Thank you to Babu’s humans, Jo and Isabel, for their support. Dog name: Babushka (Babu for short) Age: 2Breed: Border Collie X poodleIf rescued, ...
Pacific Media Watch A Lebanese photojournalist who was severely wounded during an Israeli air strike in south Lebanon carried the Olympic torch in Paris this week in honour of her peers who have been wounded and killed in the field — especially in Gaza and Lebanon. Christina Assi of Agence ...
The first report in a five-part web series focused on the 15th Triennial Conference of Pacific Women taking place in the Marshall Islands this week.SPECIAL REPORT:By Netani Rika in Majuro Women continue to fight for justice 70 years after the first nuclear tests by the United States caused ...
Christopher Luxon has joined with Australia and Canada's leaders in voicing support for US President Joe Biden's ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The 2022 election brought the “teal wave” into parliament. The next election will test whether teals, who occupy what were Liberal seats, and other independents can maintain their momentum. Joining us on the Podcast ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Musgrave, Senior lecturer in Pharmacology, University of Adelaide Pixavri/Shutterstock A major Federal Court class action has been dismissed this week after Justice Michael Lee ruled there was not enough evidence to prove the weedkiller Roundup causes cancer. Plaintiff Kelvin ...
In The Week in Politics: politicians have to decide what to do about child abuse, Health NZ is booked in for major surgery and Darleen Tana returns. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Clare Corbould, Associate Professor, Contemporary Histories Research Group, Deakin University Mainstream media are surprisingly muted at the prospect of the world’s most powerful nation being led for the first time by a woman – specifically a woman of colour, Vice President Kamala ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rebecca Bennett, PhD Student, Associate Research Fellow, Deakin University Last week, a drone delivery company called Wing (owned by Google’s parent company, Alphabet) started operating in Melbourne. Some 250,000 residents in parts of the city’s eastern suburbs can now order food from ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jonathan Foo, Lecturer, Physiotherapy, Monash University pikselstock/Shutterstock In the next 40 years in Australia, it’s predicted the number of Australians aged 65 and over will more than double, while the number of people aged 85 and over will more than triple. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Katrina Grant, Research Associate, Power Institute for Arts and Visual Culture, University of Sydney Jonas Åkerström’s 1790 work, Session of the Accademia dell’Arcadia on August 17 1788.Nationalmuseum/Cecilia Heisser Ever wondered whether you’d have a better chance at winning an Olympic gold ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Alexandra Jones, Program Lead, Food Governance, George Institute for Global Health wavebreakmedia/Shutterstock On Thursday, Australian and New Zealand food ministers at state, federal and national levels met to thrash out what’s next for health star ratings on packaged foods. Now, after ...
The Abuse in Care report found many Pacific survivors lost their connections to their culture and language, resulting in trauma that has been carried from generation to generation. ...
In the regulatory review, ECC intends to suggest that ERO focus on curriculum delivery reviews rather than the Ministry, because it’s not efficient or effective to have two agencies with radically different approaches climbing over each other. ...
Te Rūnanga Nui o Ngā Kura Kaupapa Māori invites the current government to work in partnership with them to develop a pathway forward, including the development of a parallel pathway and meaningful policy and strategy for Kura Kaupapa Māori ...
If you haven’t started watching yet, Tara Ward begs you to reconsider. This is an excerpt from our weekly pop culture newsletter Rec Room. Sign up here. In the world of New Zealand reality television, we have many gems in our crown. There’s the delicious second season of the Celebrity Treasure ...
A new poem by Fiona Kidman. The clothes of the dead I did not keep my mother’s furry red beret for long nor the stringy scarves that adorned the necks of my aunts, although I have kept tag ends of gold, the rings and trinkets they wore, the brooches no ...
The government’s announcement that it will re-open the foreshore and seabed controversy by changing the rules on recognising centuries-old Māori customary title for a third time goes against the rule of law and New Zealand values,” Mr Tipa says. ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Lioness by Emily Perkins (Bloomsbury, $25) Roarrrr! Perkins’ brilliant, award-winning, Marian-Keyes anointed, darkly funny, long ...
The 2004 Act vested ownership of the foreshore and seabed in the Crown, extinguishing any Māori claims to ownership and causing widespread outrage and protests among Māori communities. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Antje Deckert, Associate Professor (Criminology), Auckland University of Technology Getty Images Despite the connection between institutional harm and gang membership made clear in this week’s mammoth royal commission abuse-in care report, the government seems unlikely to soften its “get tough on ...
From Lewis Clareburt in the swimming to the start of the rowing – the first seven days of Paris 2024 promise to be big for New Zealand. There are few events that bring the country together quite like an Olympic Games. Nothing quite matches the excitement of getting up in ...
Groundbreaking local science just showed up in the most surprising of places: the season finale of The Kardashians. In the season five finale of The Kardashians last night, several members of the family gathered together in one of their signature empty, cream-coloured rooms to hear test results that had been ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Amin Saikal, Emeritus professor of Middle Eastern and Central Asian Studies, Australian National University The Middle East is on the brink of a possibly devastating regional war, with hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah reaching an extremely dangerous level. Washington has engaged in ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Laura Elizabeth Eades, Rheumatologist, Monash University Lupus is an inflammatory autoimmune illness, where the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks itself. Lupus can affect virtually any part of the body, although it most commonly affects the skin, joints and kidneys. The symptoms ...
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So this happened at the weekend in Wellington.
You can draw your own conclusions. Speaking only for myself, I would never want to be associated with most of these people. But it's important to know who they are, and what they really believe, in their own words.
Apparently civil unions and gay marriage are to blame, who knew?
Fear, hate and a putrid stench: Inside the Unsilenced anti-trans event | The Spinoff
Ironically and perhaps prophetically the putrid stench was attributed to the protestors outside the venue.
You mean the ones who threw the shit on the steps of the venue?
Spoiled children unhappy at not getting their own way.
Yeah those children and their occupation of Parliament, blocking motorways, supporting vandals and other provocative moves the police get involved with but hey free country and all that…..for now.
Yes.
The article felt like a scattergun hit piece against some high profile people rather than address the issues they and others are concerned about. Kinda the norm for reportage from that side of the fence.
The part of the story that interests me is the young woman who had a double mastectomy. This happened, presumably because the medical professionals are either incompetent, or most likely, concerned about their professional reputation and just went through the motions.
Any good journalist should have jumped on this story as a case of medical malpractice. Obviously this is not a concern with the news organisation he works for.
It's far easier to sit in a room for 5 hours and write snide remarks about people you don't like than do any actual investigative journalism.
And far easier to make snide remarks on a blog than follow the links provided for you by that journalist.
I read the article. It was dripping with bias. I agree with David, there was a deeper story here, but clearly it flew straight over the journo's head.
Dripping with biases (even “spoiled children” 'ave 'em
), and links (~14).
I try to keep an open mind, and am perhaps luckier than most to have two gender-nonconforming niblings. To my shame, there was a time when I didn’t consider it 'lucky', but over the years my biases and concerns have ebbed.
Maybe more than one, but who will have the courage to tell them.
It is not "gender affirming care". It affects the primary and secondary SEX characteristics by means of chemical castration with "off brand" medications, followed by sterilization and mutilation by the removal of healthy organs. Add in a lifetime dependency on artificial sex hormones.
And then they bleat and say that "gender is not sex".
I tried to remonstrate with my niblings, Visubversa, I really did, but went about it wrong and did much more harm than good to the relationships.
Fortunately they are both thriving, and the damage done by my clumsy approach has been repaired somewhat (a joint effort) – family is family.
Transgender youth: Here’s what the data says about regret rates. (slate.com)
This article looks at studies that show regret rates ranging from 1% to 30%.
They say this:
The issue here is that neither of these extremes are reliable estimates of regret. The 30 percent figure obviously does not map onto regret. Many people stop using their parent or partner’s health care for reasons completely unrelated to transition regret (i.e., divorce). And the studies of surgery in the review are mostly surgeons following up with their own patients, with quite high dropout rates. It’s not surprising that only 1 percent of people report to a surgeon who did an operation that they regret it!
…and…
Perhaps the most useful way to examine regret is to look at the proportion of people who cease their transition and go back to the gender they were originally. A large national study found that 13.1 percent of transgender people participating in the U.S. Transgender Survey reported detransitioning at some point in their lives. I think that’s a fairly reasonable estimate of the rate of people experiencing some measure of regret around their transition experience.
Yep, it really begs the question. I received my answer(s) quiet and clear.
You might want to look again at the Cass Review report. It details very well why there is no good evidence base for the efficacy of "gender affirming care" for young people. Part of the reason is that any attempt to do good research about rates of regret – or the "complications" rate of the surgeries, is met with the usual resistance and abuse.
This is life changing, irreversible surgery (some would say mutilation) on young, vulnerable people. It absolutely has to be widely debated.
Fair enough, although I broadly agree with the concluding opinions expressed by the author (Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz) of the (imho balanced and well-researched) article you linked to and quoted from @4:08 pm – so thanks for that.
Of course; anyone can weigh in on the topic, but Meyerowitz-Katz makes an interesting point about to how much weight should be given to individual opinions. I had opinions about the wisdom of some of the choices my niblings have made over the last 3 or so years, and only some of those opinions have changed.
But I don't get to impose my sensibilities on my niblings, and I won't cut them off (perhaps an unfortunate phrase in context) for their choices, and hope that they won't cut me off, in spite of my 'I know what's best for you' attitude – which (fwiw) I still struggle with.
…Meyerowitz-Katz makes an interesting point about to how much weight should be given to individual opinions.
Actually their point is absurd.
Should the opinions of the wider medical fraternity be given weight? Should, for example, medical professionals be able to provide other treatment beside gender affirming treatment (GAT), or should providing any treatment other than GAT be illegal, as it is now in Canada? (Reckless Consent: Issues with Gender-Affirming Treatment | C2C Journal)
Should the opinions of parents of transitioning children be given weight? Or should the only approach offered by GAT practitioners in many Western jurisdictions be unconditional acceptance of the patient’s feelings? (Reckless Consent: Issues with Gender-Affirming Treatment | C2C Journal).
Weka presents other examples below.
When we are discussing irreversible medical procedures being performed on highly vulnerable young people, the mere notion that only that young person and their medical practitioner should have a say is, IMHO, dangerous.
And again, I thank you for providing a link to Meyerowitz-Katz's article, and quoting from it to support your views.
Imho, an article that an individual can selectively quote from in support of their views, while also stating that a point the author makes "is absurd", can't be all bad.
Believe it or not, I used to think very much like you on this topic, but personal experience is an excellent teacher, and so while my natural inclination still leans towards a conservative view (which is pretty unusual for me), I must (now) also acknowledge that not all young people who undergo gender-affirming treatments view these as harmful, let alone "mutilation".
And, tbh, the more this topic gets discussed on TS (and imho it gets discussed a lot), the more I learn and regret my earlier ham-fisted efforts to set my niblings on a path that would still be easier for me – with the benefit of hindsight those efforts did more harm than good.
Of course, I also recognise that not transitioning in the first place would have been a better decision for some young people, hence the link to Ellie's and Nele's stories @1.2.1.1.1.1.
@ Drowsy
"I must (now) also acknowledge that not all young people who undergo gender-affirming treatments view these as harmful, let alone "mutilation"."
Perhaps because a very great number are already vulnerable. Perhaps because they are too close to be objective? Which is a valid reason wider input and discussion is required.
Yep, and that well-researched article you provided a link to, and quoted from to support your views, has faciliated discussion here.
Perhaps, perhaps – and perhaps because, for some, these treatments are beneficial? My initial judgements about the vulnerability of my niblings, and them being too close to be objective, were (I like to think) well-intentioned, but, with the benefit of hindsight, I made bad calls in my attempt to persuade them to make what I truly believed would be better choices for all concerned.
I (still) don't fully understand why my niblings made the choices they did, but they seem happy, and I'm trying to be content with that, even though some of the consequences still rankle.
And I'm still of the opinion that "on balance, it’s better to delay/withhold most/all irreversible [gender-affirming] interventions for as long as possible", but if I could do it all again then I wouldn't go in all guns blazing. Who knows what might have been.
I didn't read the article, but this is very, very weird.
1. women's sex based rights are at risk from males transitioning and insisting they are women. Women have a right to weigh in.
2. detrans people aren't getting the support and medical care they need because apparently only trans people deserve that. Detrans people have a right to weigh in.
3. there is a specific set of gender critical activists who are the parents of children that transition or want to transition and where those parents believe it is a very serious mistake. They have a right to weigh in.
4. It's very strange to see liberals making such a distinct libertarian argument, that extreme body modification is between the person and their doctor, especially after Cass. Those of us who see transhumanism as a threat to humans and nature, have the right to weigh in.
5. Some of the people who have transitioned turned out to be lesbian or gay and/or autistic and they were subject to medical malpractice. It's a kind of conversion therapy. LGB people have a right to weigh in as do neurodiverse people.
6. Society pays not only for transition, but life long medical costs. Society has a right to weigh in.
7. Transwidows have a right to weigh in.
8. regret about knee surgery is not like transition regret. Patient rights advocates have a right to weigh in.
9. whatever the issues around regret, there are also issues in the number of people who were transitioned by malpractice. Regret is not the right word for the feelings of detrans people who were put on a medical pathway as a young child, or got caught up in social contagion as a preteen or teen, or who grew up in a homophobic family/community society and hated their sex and were convinced that transitioning was the solution. Everyone who cares about children and young adults has a right to weigh in on that.
I did read the article and it was incredibly lazy and incurious. He makes eminently fair criticisms of Brian Tamaki and other fringe figures whose rhetoric tends towards unhinged violence.
But the reporter makes less than zero effort to understand the core arguments of the GC position – it is a literal smear job.
The media loves to platform the loonies and ignore the left wing GC feminists who stick to the science and human rights arguments. In this the Spinoff (and idpol left) is a mirror image of the emotive bullshit from Tamaki and Posie Parker.
And why is it always low-T millennial dudes taking these potshots?
For the USA at least. Other nations might have different rates – the difference may be based on the rates of transitioning (as per health care practice), or cultural factors.
there are too many people who cannot go back to the gender they were. Once your penis has been removed and you have a simulacrum of a vagina inserted in your body, there is little going back.
Some of the effects of artificial hormone treatment aren't reversible.
Puberty blockers aren't reversible depending on the age/stage they were starting and how long they were taken.
Anyone who has an opinion on transition needs to listen to the succinct and very clear 3min testimony of this young man,
https://youtu.be/Ko_MJln6c_4?si=ta5Hky1xzYWsNfa0
Thanks Weka. Heart wrenching. And incredibly brave.
I would hope that the real story is that surgeons are removing healthy appendages of young people who have not received the proper care and treatment from medical professionals.
Are you arguing that there should be no such surgical procedures for those under 18?
At the moment the focus has been on no use of puberty blockers (ignoring the fact that the original purpose to delay early onset puberty remains) and no hormone treatments under age 18.
The number of surgery cases being much lower.
Or does proper care have another meaning?
We should have a moratorium on surgery, hormonal treatments, and PBs in people under 18, until as a society we get past No Debate and the issues can be looked at in valid ways. At the moment people in academia and medicine are too scare to speak. There is no ethical medical treatment under those conditions.
There should be no surgical and hormonal treatment for anyone until the needs of detrans people are acknowledge and medical and health system supports are put in place around detrans healthcare. Again, there is no ethical medical treatment until that happens.
In any other area of medicine, what I just said wouldn't be controversial.
No surgical or hormonal treatment for anyone (as per different to birth sex for gender dysphoria reasons) – including private and paid for … until there is support for “detrans healthcare”?
What detrans health care (not available now) would that be?
Medical (PB, hormonal, and/or surgical transition) means becoming a lifelong patient.
Sometimes after surgery, other surgeries are needed to fix the first one or the complications. People having simulacrum vaginas can end up with a wound that extends into the bowel. That means the shit leaks out. This can be life threatening if not treated properly.
Post-mastectomy pain is not unusual. Nor bladder issues and pain.
And so on. All of this should be known and support available to deal with it. Trans people seem to be getting follow up surgeries some of the time, I hear detrans people talking about how difficult it has been to get that follow up care once they say they are detrans.
Afaik there are no specialist services. So while trans people can get affirmation only care, detrans people can't get support around being detrans.
I've actually not seen a good write up on this, I just know from following a lot of detrans people on twitter and watching/listening to them speaking.
the state of what I am referring to is criminal imo. The problem is that the pro-transition medical community can't be honest about the situation because then they'd have to be honest about how experimental the surgeries are, and the failure rates.
But because of trans ideology, no-one will or is allowed to talk about it. There have been whistle blowers that have worked in clinics, so we know some of what is going on from them in addition to listening to detrans people.
Also, fuck all the people who have supported No Debate. I'd be writing about this on TS weekly if I could.
Given the woman decided to be a transgender man at age 18 and did not have the breast removal until age 26 – it is one separate from the campaign to end puberty blocking and transitioning support to those under age 18.
The issue there is that she was identifying as male for 8 years, apparently because of body dysmorphia.
The conference is about the transitioning of children and young people, it's not limited to PBs and medical transition (nor for many others).
it's unlikely that Mel Jeffries suddenly decided to be a man at 18. She would have been exposed to trans ideology before then. She also says she couldn't have given informed consent because she wasn't given the relevant information.
https://x.com/xmjefferies/status/1786711839663067561
""They [Government] seem to be talking about the fact that because we built 13,000 additional houses, Kāinga Ora has more debt and they seem to be talking about that as if it's a terrible thing," he said."
Chris Hipkins defends Kāinga Ora after scathing review, lashing from Christopher Luxon | Newshub
Chris Hipkins still doesn't get it.
"…the Board followed directives from the previous government to rapidly increase the number of additional social houses."
"…we consider that the imperative to increase the number of houses rapidly has resulted in a high-cost structure and poor financial discipline."
and
"Kāinga Ora is struggling to meet its delivery targets. In the absence of acquisitions, their build programme would not be meeting its annual targets. Over the last five years, it built on average 2,400 gross homes each year, growing the stock by on average 1,600 net homes each year. Kāinga Ora forecasts procuring on average
4,600 new build homes each year and are already not meeting this plan."
Independent Review of Kainga Ora.pdf (beehive.govt.nz)
It's not about whether or not they built extra houses. It's about organisational incompetence.
Na it's about national being on the campaign trail 24/7, 365 days if the year, just trowing constant shit, is all the have.
The quotes are from an independent review. If you have a problem with any of the content, take it up with the review panel.
An "independent" review conducted by failed Nat PM. So independent.Yeah Right. 🙄
The review was prepared by a panel of three. But again, run a critique.
The conclusion to that so called report was most likely written prior to the so called report. It's SOP when you want to find things wrong in an organisation, and BE is hardly independent and surprise, surprise! He comes up with Social Housing.Now who was it that introduced that during the last Nat admin?
Did you just describe Traveller?![cheeky cheeky](https://cdn2.thestandard.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/ark-wysiwyg-comment-editor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/tongue_smile.png)
I suppose you do not care that National's focus on financial discipline is a cover for having no intent to increase social housing stock – just transfer some of Kainga Ora housing to other providers to provide a stronger social housing market.
This despite the fact that the numbers of disabled and those unable to work because of health problems is growing. And the number of people reaching retirement age without home ownership is growing.
One of the expectations of nations of the UN is The Universal Declaration of Human Rights – it does mention housing.
If you could provide any evidence of those claims, I'd certainly be interested.
You could express an opinion on the point … rather than not …
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/government-invests-1500-more-social-homes
There is as yet no known commitment to increase Kainga Ora housing stock numbers – new homes at a rate to replace demolished stock or higher or higher …and a suggestion of transferring to other social housing providers to strengthen that market.
Fun question – is there any evidence of social housing stock increasing under a National led government in the past 40 years?
All we have is 1500 places over * 3 years to other social housing providers instead of supporting people into first homes.
One might well compare that to the rate that Kainga Ora has being buying (and or leasing) on the market to let at income related rent.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350285938/fast-track-committee-not-undermined-mps-donation-national
“”The National Party insists there has been no conflict of interest in David Macleod’s chairing the committee considering the contentious fast-track bill.
“”The New Plymouth MP received $10,000 from a donor with shares in a company hoping to benefit from the legislation.
Corruption in the open , national knows nothing will happen so don’t even try cover it up
Follow(ing) the (lovely) money (at all costs)![sad sad](https://cdn2.thestandard.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/ark-wysiwyg-comment-editor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/sad_smile.png)
"Throw is some cognitive dissonance, craven greenwashing and faux concern and here we are. Profit before planet."
Kiri Allan decided to change her plea to "Guilty" at the last minute to refusing to accompanying police.
I guess she decided that grey area in the law wasn't so important to test or wasn't so grey after all.
Kiri Allan crash: Former Justice Minister convicted for drink-driving crash, refusing to go with police – NZ Herald
Keep guessing Jimmy, that's all you will ever do.
You don't actually know anything, you just guess.
You'll be be filled with joy that Kiri decided to save the poor old tax payer some money!!
Wonder if any of MacLeod's big donors will be concerned that he may be prone to making 'errors' of an "inadvertent" kind. Probably not, as long as he ums and errs in their favour.
My feeling is that Parliament today is a disordered rabble. My feeling is that the Speaker very easily becomes a flippant boofhead.
Yes Peter and he lets Luxon carry out long election rants but seldom answers the question. Pointless having QT really. And much harder to run the On Demand and then not till the following day.
The House is in decline and so is coverage of it at the parliament site.
It is part of the lowering of standards across "government" since the election – if Transparency International does not do a downgrade we can resume they are not paying close attention (elsewhere either?).
Is that people or houses? Luxon uses it repeatedly.
They ended a programme to support people into housing ownership they began in 2017 and say they will transfer the money to providing social housing places instead.
Yes SPC but is places = houses?
They have allocated $140M (over 3 years) from July 2025 for 1500 places.
It is under $100,000 per house.
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/government-invests-1500-more-social-homes
Hate to bang on but if they meant houses surely they would call them houses, but to me, calling them places might be a sleight of hand.
The language is sort of implying payments to providers on a per person basis, same way as the word "places" is used in tertiary education funding or social programs.
At $100,000 a place … it will inspire some interesting bed sit designs.
My take is they are paying for 1500 rentals at $600 / week for 3 years.
Either that, or they're getting someone other than Kāinga Ora to build internment camps.
Maybe, but they are framing it as enabling other social housing providers to have some guarantee of funding for new supply (even if it is merely $600 a week for each new place, rather than the cost of the new building supply up front).
I heard the tail end of Bishop this morning on NRadio talking about houses. I will keep listening.
I think they are still pushing that "short term help", not considering how disruptive being moved on from temporary places truly is to schooling work and community.