Fossil fuels used by construction and mining machinery are often cited by those apparently wishing for us all to go back to subsistence-agriculture lifestyles. But those industries can and are going electric too.
I have noticed greater numbers of tuis around our area and at council parks that Saturday sports are held at, just wondering if this observation can be supported by others( I hope others have noticed the same)
What area are you in @Heridotus? There's definitely been a huge change in the bird population here in Wellington (adjacent to the Town Belt) since Zealandia has become well established
With all this talk of intensification of housing and watching English sport and still seeing large areas of inner cbds with large areas of tree coverage, I worry that Auckland is destroying any resemblance of being anything but a concrete jungle. Council parks, schools establish 1/4 acre blocks having trees chopped down that we will be left with sparrows and miners.
My deepest sympathy. It's going to take a while (unless it all goes tits up as it inevitably will). I think maybe the birds stand a better chance though
Yes. They usually make themselves scarce around my local parts over the winter months and return in the spring when the trees etc. are starting to flower. I have noticed quite a few around in the past few weeks. I live on the North Shore peninsular (Devonport etc.)
It's now common to hear tuis where I live, and where I work. I often have them in the garden, due to having a couple of bottlebrushes, a coral tree (they love that one) and various fruit trees. I’ve even had a kereru out there a couple of times, and I live well inside the city boundary.
And who is a better source? Just because you don't like Garner, et al, doesn't mean he is not well informed.
The comment by Shane Jones later in the day certainly seemed to indicate that Tainui is likely to buy the land from Fletchers. And Jones seemed to envisage Tainui doing a substantial part of the proposed building development. Perhaps not the full 450 as proposed by Fletchers, but likely a substantial proportion.
While Pania Newton may not have been the primary negotiator for this outcome, and may not have even been included in the negotiations, the occupation led by her will be the primary cause for Tainui to be involved.
I’d like to think that there are many readers of TS, who are invisible because they don’t comment here, and who would find it helpful if you could provide links to those “many better sources” that you refer to. Some, but not all, may indeed open their minds and broaden their horizons. Isn’t that what you wish for? For real.
you'll need to be more specific please I don't know what you mean. I don't think garner has any value on this or any other topic – others may disagree – so what.
Is there more to this than this mornings posts from me – it seems personal somehow.
Not personal, I don’t like snipers – they take aim at selected targets – and I’m disappointed when people don’t want to be helpful even when they clearly and easily can be.
That’s it from me as I have expressed my hopes clearly enough.
thanks for clarifying. sorry I haven't met your expectations. I try to be pithy and that has disadvantages for sure. I do try to balance my scintillating attacks with calm pieces too but I am a work in progress. 🙂
PS and i try to be funny – always a double edged sword that one
Readers come and readers go here. They may look for an authentic perspective not some hyped up piece in MSM. They may want to learn something new. They may come here to confirm their prejudices and stereotypes.
I believe this site has much to offer and can help to build bridges based on mutual respect, trust, and understanding. The people who write here, people like you and (much less so) me, make the site what it is. It is a work in progress and it is a collective effort. The work is never done.
nice twister – hint – the giveaway is the "in other words" bit – if you want more impact just leave that weak shit out and then you'll be good to go with the twist hidden a little by the outrage generated – similar to dead cat sorta
The main point of incognito ( if I may summarise?)is lots of people get useful information from posts..because they provide a wider view. Doesnt have to be only stuff you agree with. But it needs to be information not empty catch phrases.
I look at the awesome online magazine, https://e-tangata.co.nz/ for a Maori view ( and not Garner) of events
1. If you want to know what Māori involved in the negotiations think, go read what Tainui and Kiingitanga have already said on the matter.
2. It's an opinion piece from Garner. He's shit stirring, and he's using his considerable institutional power to attack SOUL and support the outcome he wants. It's racist as fuck and fits with his reactionary conservative history on most matters.
3. please don't expect the one or two politicised Māori commenters in this thread to do you mahi for you. There are plenty of mainstream Māori media outlets covering Ihumātao. Google them if you don't know (and don't take the first 50 hits from the past week, because they're now loaded with Pākehā voices). Or ask politely from the general commentariat.
4. lefites, please don't do the rights work for them.
If we want TS to have more diverse commenters and writers, then we have to learn how to make this place work for a range of people. Much could be learned about that from SOUL currently.
If you comment that there are "many better sources" of information than the one a fellow commenter linked to, are then asked to provide an example of one of these "many better sources" but refuse to provide one, people are entitled to assume you're just a blowhard.
Given your history on this site and the fact that there certainly are many better sources of info than Duncan Garner for any given subject, no doubt you're not bullshitting. But some (many?) of the people reading this thread won't know those things and may assume you're a blowhard. Wouldn't it have been better just to give a couple of examples?
pretty much everyone in this thread is a long termer. If marty is the only one considered to know good sources of information on Ihumātao, or Māori issues generally, that's a problem (I personally don't believe it, but maybe I'm wrong).
for comparison, feminists routinely have to deal with this shit, men expecting them to do the mahi of educating them. We have the internet for a reason.
I'll just write this off as a weird day on TS, but honestly, having a go at a Māori man who most people here know who criticised using Duncan Garner of all people as a source on Māori issues? Instead of having a go at Garner. Weird.
"…We are intolerant of people starting or continuing flamewars where there is little discussion or debate. This includes making assertions that you are unable to substantiate with some proof (and that doesn’t mean endless links to unsubstantial authorities) or even argue when requested to do so.”
Saying that assertions dont have to be backed up is contrary to policy as it would seem 'do your own work , thats what the internet is for.'
LOL.. so is arguing when asked for 'proof' or some backup.
Are you saying these policies dont apply Weka ?
[In this context? Of course not. Marty’s original two comments that there were better sources of information on the topic than Garner seem reasonable to me. He was expressing his opinion, people are free to disagree if they believe that there are no better sources of information than Garner, and then we can debate that I guess and people can start linking to support their view.
Marty wasn’t starting a flamewar. He also pointed out that he regularly posts links to Māori news sources. I don’t know what’s going on here but I still find it bizarre that people are having a go at him over a couple of brief comments that Garner is not a good source of news on Te Ao Māori.
You’ve left out this bit of the policy: What we’re not prepared to accept are pointless personal attacks, or tone or language that has the effect of excluding others. This will vary among moderators but my own view is that if we want to not exclude people then as well as behavioural issues there are issues of culture. Hence my comments about Māori or women being expected to do the leg work for others and that this creates an unwelcoming atmosphere.
There’s nothing in today’s debate that made me think about moderating until you invoked me. With my moderator hat on I’m inclined to say, don’t be a dick. You yourself were one of the few people who linked to another news source, so I’m not sure what you are doing here other than being argumentative for the sake of it.
If you are instead seeking clarity on moderation, I hope this helps. – weka]
…but honestly, having a go at a Māori man who most people here know who criticised using Duncan Garner of all people as a source on Māori issues?
I wouldn't support using Duncan Garner as a source on any issue, but it pushes my buttons when commenters assert something and then reject any obligation to support their assertion. Whether they're Māori or not isn't a factor, and shouldn't be.
I guess it just seemed such an obvious thing as to not need any back up. Like if I said I thought FB was a stupid place to get news from and there were better places. It's an opinion, and people can agree or disagree, but does it really need explaining?
Sure, people can express an opinion and when they are (repeatedly!) asked to back it up with a smidgen of information I think that is a reasonable request. These requests were denied/ignored in a petulant way IMO because there was no obvious good reason to refuse the requests.
I don’t see this as doing the legwork for others. I see it as being helpful and reaching out to others. All it needs to be is a link or a starting point for an internet search. After all, these were “better” sources than Duncan Garner’s one on an imminent deal with Tainui. What are the chances of doing a search, reporting back here in good faith, and then getting pooh-poohed again because that source is not reliable either?
To write off another opinion (piece) because (of) Duncan is understandable – I’d do it myself – but Wayne made a good point @ 3.1.1. that it may have more (?) to do with disliking Garner and/or what he said. The whole Garner thing feels like shooting the messenger. It was an unhelpful sideshow.
Garner’s piece was on the most recent developments (or not) and it would have been useful and relevant for me and I presume others to find at least one other source that could either confirm or refute Garner’s. None has been forthcoming thus far …
I posted upthread to an RNZ piece where Kingiitanga are saying no deal has been done. Afaik the only people in the conversations are Māori with a hand in the game. eg there are no Labour MPs there. Garner may well have a source from inside the tent, who knows how reliable that is, but either way my own view is that Garner is shit stirring, because that's what he does. He's racist, and a misogynist, and yes that colours my view because his history on this is solid. Much like anything that came out of Key's mouth needed to be understood in a certain context.
I agree that it's reasonable to ask people to back up opinions. I don't think it's reasonable to demand people do that unless there is something particularly unusual about the opinion. You asked, and you and marty had a conversation about it, kei te pai.
Where I disagree is that the idea that there was no good reason to refuse the requests. I can tell you how tedious it gets in gender conversations to have to educate people on gender issues when there is a large degree of denial and antagonism in those convos. People can ask, that's fine, but having a go at someone for not answering under those conditions misses the broader context.
Yes, it might be good for this community to have Māori media resources made more available. I just think the onus is on Pākehā to do that, not Māori. Marty already links plenty.
Yes, I did see and read the RNZ piece you posted but is was dated the day before and I wondered if there were other sources and/or possibly updates available.
What got my nose slightly out of joint was the way the refusals were made. Yes, we had a conversation and a mutual understanding and I fully respect Marty or any commenter’s right to not oblige. However, his opinion was about other sources being better. We were never able to judge this for ourselves because no links were provided. It is common practice here on this site that when one alleges a fact they should back that up with a link at least when asked. For example, site X is shite but site Y is great is an opinion on their relative merits and quality but there is no denying the fact that they both exist and can be linked to. I hope this makes some kind of sense.
You obviously don’t work in education 😉
It is relatively easy to educate the ones who are keen; it is next to impossible to educate the ones who don’t want it. One of the most rewarding experiences in education is not when a keen student ‘gets it’ but when an unmotivated one starts to open up and wants to learn and learn more.
Yes, it might be good for this community to have Māori media resources made more available. I just think the onus is on Pākehā to do that, not Māori.
I must be tired but I didn’t follow this line of reasoning at all.
I think that some commenters sometimes let their personal emotion get involved and their dislike of me and my opinions colours their responses. I get hurt but move on because I have a bigger agenda. Today's example was a pretty idiotic one imo but whatever… can't learn some people no matter how much you try to.
edit – incog – it’s not my job to do your work – what a cheek pushing those rude questions at me. Not impressed tbh
The specific issue is Duncan Garners source for this particular story, not the broader issues of the Maori media.
And on this specific issue I suspect Duncan is very well informed, either directly from the Tainui leadership or from senior MP’s (probably from NZF) who know how the negotiations are going.
Whether his source is speaking true or not, Garner is plainly shitstirring. What possible public good is there to be had from this leak? Why not let the people involved sort this out without the pressure from a NZ public that is still largely ignorant of Māoridom?
I look at who is saying what and who isn't. I look at their previous comment/statement/knowledge/understanding of the issues similar and the same. I then account for or discount their narrative accordingly. Based on this approach I discount most of what garner says. Is that okay with you?
garner looks to be stirring shit as he hasn’t provided a single source as back up to his claims. Wayne obviously thinks powerful men in media MUST be better informed without having to prove it.
The problem is your alternative is even weaker as all we have is your claim of negation of garners source, who ever that may be.
my friend down in Hamilton claims garner is correct and he is unusually close to these things
I've got this far through the thread, and marty mars I saw your comment that "lol – there are many better sources – try opening your mind a bit sheesh" – and when asked what they were you see to have evaded the issue. I don't generally trust Garner, but I saw his interview with Finlayson who had ideas about Tainui solving it all without government involvement, and now it is of Garner's idea and story so he is pushing it. I haven't generally been following this issue though, so, marty mars, can you post a few of those "many better sources"?
ISTR Garner waving a letter a few years ago, adamant that Shearer had less than two weeks in the job – a few months before the actual departure. And Espiner was much more accurate with his own prediction.
I barely rate Garner on political affairs, let alone Māori issues. He's more of a cold-reading psychic than a reporter – taking a reasonably predictable proposition and saying it with confidence. Or a pump 'n' dump trader, knowing that himself stating something will happen makes people begin to plan as if that's what will happen, increasing the chances he'll be vaguely "correct".
He's a right wing reactionary and his so-called analysis of current events are invariably over-simplistic. Add to that the shock jock culture of mediaworks and his views are to be taken with a grain of salt. Occasionally I think he does get it right but imo in the majority of cases he’s wrong.
but as you say McFlock:
a pump 'n' dump trader, knowing that himself stating something will happen makes people begin to plan as if that's what will happen, increasing the chances he'll be vaguely "correct".
So it's OK for Tainui to develop the land, but not Fletchers? What am I missing here?
Reminds me of when Tainui and local iwi vehemently objected to Watercare placing biosolids on nearby Puketutu Island on the basis that the island was sacred. The objections disappeared when Watercare offered to pay iwi an undisclosed $/cubic meter for the dumping.
lol yeah yeah we know your lines to slur her instead of argue against her. Shows how weak and useless your mana is lol – keep it up homer and make even more of a complete fool of yourself – here's another target for you
Dame Whina Cooper is our New Zealander of the Year for leading a hikoi from the Far North to Parliament House to demand recognition of Maori land rights.
"and the end decision is for the iwi as a whole ."
Funny, don't you mean to say "and the end decision is for the head of the iwi", because from day one you've attempted to shut down anyone disagreeing with him.
You are confusing the chair and spokesman of the Marae, who spoke for the decision made previously by the iwi.
Thats how maori iwi work, surely you should know they work collectively…but clearly you dont. Im not maori but I hear about iwi meetings from those that are.
Im not shutting down anyone, just referring the previous agreements with Fletchers made by the iwi, also the full and final settlement of their land claims made by the iwi.
"For many of the negotiators and those they represent, the gains have little to do with financial and commercial redress. Because, compared to the losses suffered by Māori, there’s stuff-all that can be clawed back from the Crown. It’s about the rebuilding of a tribe, restoration of mana, reclamation of lost stories, putting atrocities and wrongs on record. It’s about the return home of iwi members, the pride in a new generation, embedding the tribe’s role in decision making throughout their district and ensuring a stronger sense of place. It’s about both legacy and potential.
““One of the dangers of the whole settlement process,” says Michael Cullen, “is that it divides hapū from hapū, it divides iwi from iwi. Because, of course, traditional boundaries weren’t hard-and-fast lines on the map, like English counties.”
Its apparent some here , like Marty and Maui, are much more like the human headline Garner than they want to admit- cliches, empty rhetoric , buzz words
"Let’s be clear. The whole exercise is painful enough for Māori, but when the process and outcome are a mystery to most New Zealanders, the scene is set for misinterpretation, misunderstanding, and misinformation. Cue the wilfully ignorant and downright racist, dying to rark things up."
“Taua claims that "Te Kawerau ā Maki are mana whenua of Ihumātao". His fellow trustees take a more nuanced stance, and say "they admit that Te Kawerau ā Maki have claimed mana whenua status…..but [it is] just one group of a number of who are mana whenua of Ihumātao".
"Notably, Pania Newton and her five cousins – who founded protest group SOUL (Save Our Unique Landscape) and whakapapa to Ihumātao – have always maintained they are not affiliated with Te Kawerau ā Maki."
Which is what I believe too , they arent TKAM, but seem to constructed their mana whenua to suit them. Interesting.
Socialist fan-bois who jump in on a cause arent expected to provide answers , but do they love getting in the way. Ive seen photos of them ( like John McCaffery- Irish descent) lined up outside the Council hearing room , with only Pania and one other iwi member.
So Duncan "Waah waah, this country's too full of icky icky brown people and I hate it!" Garner is trying to reinvent himself as an authority on Maori issues, is he?
He can just get in the sea and swim back to Pomgolia.
I think its time for a big shout out to the older white men of New Zealand. This group has, over the last 130 years or more, led NZ to its liberal and progressive place in the world today, with such things as female suffrage (and male suffrage 14 years earlier), anti-nuclear middle finger to the US, the creation of a comprehensive welfare state in the 1930s and the like.
Similarly in our local Council, the older white men are pretty much all liberal and progressive types, of left persuasion. I suspect this is repeated across many Councils. It reflects the progressive and liberal nature of the older white men in our wider community.
They are certainly less conservative than many most other identity groups in NZ e.g. Pacifika who are very conservative, Maori, most older women. And they are certainly less conservative than most other males across the planet e.g. Arabia, US.
This is all good and I thank them for this contribution to our society today.
Especially for the male suffrage provided 140 years ago this year. Cause for celebration. Is there any celebration planned?
Having a bit of a giggle here, an old white man who resigned from council is now deciding to standing again because there are women standing in his ward this election.
But I'm guessing/hoping he is not the type of old white man you are celebrating in your post VTO.
Where's the celebration happening? I did a google but came up empty.
I heard a barbie was planned – the march was a fizzer cos the rugger replay was on – some action in the malls today with small tables and leaflets I think.
“– we stuffed the world up now please worship us – ”
Enver Hoxha was only 36 when he became prime minister of Albania , he became first Secretary of the Communist party a few years earlier, was that the young dynamic leader you are thinking of, as he was so good at his job he remained in total control till he died at 77.
Or is it Bernie Sanders , now 77, and his great accomplishments during his time in office ?
Things have to change – I agree 'young' and 'old' are very poor proxies for what we are trying to say. Chronological age is weird and messed up. Yet the truth is we need other voices, different thinking and values to create the world we're moving into imo.
Well Bernies a millionaire now , so the system is working for him. His household income including his wife is almost $300,000 pa. For many years. That puts him in the 1%
His financial disclosure statements show they have stakes in 36 mutual funds and other investments
They own 3 houses.
Elizabeth Warren is worth $8 mill, but then again shes not as 'socialist' as Bernie so thats OK.
mauī spoke for themselves, or is your racism so ingrained dukeofurl that you can't even grip that basic idea? Because if you missed it – your paternalist racist rants are getting tired, boring, and old.
That me just speaking for myself, not any % of the public, just me.
… do you live on Planet Key, vto? I suspect there will be a knees up at the golf club if you really want to celebrate… Mind you empty your bladder before you attend though, apparently there are no toilets on Planet Key.
yeah thanks Molly for more smart-arse offensive comments about older men, great.
You don't want to celebrate men getting the vote in 1870? It was after all monumental and the first time ever. It also paved the way for women getting the vote only 14 years later. That was celebrated. Why not men?
btw, fuck Planet Key, you shouldnt assume so much. You should also read the bit about older men and their long-established liberal and progressive credentials.
disappointing Molly, but at least you've revealed your prejudices.
I didn't make any " smart-arse offensive comments about older men". I responded to your familiar baiting with light hearted levity about one of our recent prominent older white men, who was held up for celebration.
I see many celebrations of achievement happening all the time, and often the people lauded are "older white men". So, I was just asking you to consider whether you are in fact tending to see a bias against that demographic, that is non-existent.
My long-term partner is – as we communicate – becoming an even older white male. My sons will be whitish older men. I celebrate them every day.
“You don’t want to celebrate men getting the vote in 1870?” Meh. Not so much. That consolidation of political power in this country led to more effecient land confiscations and consolidations, and the 1870 vote was for property owners. Male suffrage – for Pakeha – did not really come in until 1879. I will celebrate the return of voting rights to prisoners. The removal of residential voting rights, which would bring us in line with most of the world. And the return of overseas votes without the need to visit the country within the last three years for ex-pat overseas residents that retain their citizenship.
"US President Donald Trump says he has "hereby ordered" American companies to leave China, after Beijing announced plans to slap new tariffs on US goods."
The idea that King Con is indeed deliberately manipulating markets for personal gain deserves at least some consideration, not outright dismissal as a weird conspiracy theory. He is known to have successfully done it before in the 80s, before others got wise to him and he apparently lost it all again.
But I'm not yet sure I'm ready to totally buy into it. Seems to me the evidence still points much more towards the Fraud from Fifth Avenue playing pigeon chess, not 23-dimensional chess. Y'know, where it flaps in squawking loudly, knocks over all the pieces, shits all over the board, struts around like it's won, then flaps out again still squawking.
The speculation has been going on for a while now and frankly yes, he is making money, his children are making money and everyone else around him is making money. And thus the economy is booming. the plebs?
I don't think its a CT. Who profits. Its not even chess, its simply a mafia/organised crime tactic of pay me to protect you from me, cause it would be sad if something something were to happen to your nice business, your nice house, your nice children your nice country your nice exports ………….
wouldnt put it past him at all….but whatever the motivation(s) it dosnt change the impact on the rest of us, not to mention the potential for it to transition from a trade/currency war to yet another of the shooting variety
Well, the petulance he has shown over being denied the opportunity to buy Greenland is a case in point. He claims he wanted to buy it for America but that's a load of rot. There are a lot of valuable minerals in them thar snowy mountains and glaciers and he wants to get his grubby little hands on them.
While President Trump seemed to pull his interest in purchasing Greenland out of thin air this week, he’s actually been privately talking about buying the semi-autonomous Danish region for more than a year, according to the New York Times.
In fact, last year the President even joked about trading Puerto Rico — the U.S. territory he’s treated with contempt ever since it was ravaged by Hurricane Maria — for Greenland, according to a former administration official who spoke to the Times.
Nice – I think every Anzac day trees could be planted for the fallen. On each holiday it could be an excuse to plant some trees – christmas, new year, easter, whatever – just another reason to offer commemoration by planting life.
Overall, more than 3000 native trees would be planted in Dunedin area this month, as living tributes to the men and women of the New Zealand Defence Forces, and marking the 100-year anniversary of the end of World War 1.
There is no such thing as Rangihou people. Thats the name given to the farm on that spot established by Samuel Marsden the anglican missionary , around 1815, named after a bay in the Bay of Islands.
The City of Parramatta give a good background of the location on their website.
Highly unlikely Te ruki Kawiti a ngapuhi chief was involved, and he certainly wasnt a "king"
Maori dont have customary land rights in Australia.
Its high school stuff to know that Parramatta – where this park is-was founded as a settlement the same year as Sydney in 1788, and any maori who may have settled there around 1810 or so were part of the British colonisation. Hint -they even called it the Colony of NSW
That makes them colonisers not an indigenous people.
My heart fell when I saw this being reported. My primary instinct, followed by rational justification is that no such ownership claim should take place in a country that has systematically stolen land from the indigenous people.
The only presence that others should have in any such claim, is as support for indigenous people when they do so.
(This stance also translates into unease at the establishment of maraes overseas. To me, maraes are inextricably linked to whenua, and we have no claim to overseas locations, and should not dispossess others of their own land even in that small way.)
(not sure about marae. Wouldn’t it be like saying that Muslims from other countries shouldn't put their mosques here? People need a place to connect collectively even where they are living in another land. Tricky though, because I hear what you are saying about the inherent connection to whenua).
For me, marae are inextricably linked to whenua. Both geographically and in Te Ao Maori, spiritually. As a people who understand land dispossession, the thought of laying that spiritual claim to land in another country just seems discordant.
Churches, including are a place of worship for beliefs that transcend countries. They are a place of gathering, which can take place wherever the church can be built. It is not usually on a sacred site or area of significance, the consecration takes place after the decision to build is made.
“How do you see pan-iwi urban marae?”
in Aotearoa?
I often visited Manurewa marae, which AFAIK is a pan-iwi urban marae. It is in Aotearoa, so the connection to land is still there, and is spoken of, in terms of local iwi. It is not another indigenous peoples ancestral land, so I can see how with the creation of urban marae these old connections are rediscovered and strengthened.
that makes sense, although I would say that European churches do have a history of being land based and sites being chosen because of the land. Even here in NZ I think this has been true sometimes, looking at some of the places churches have been put. Pākehā are a long way culturally from belonging to the land, but I don't think it's entirely severed. Also acknowledging the role of colonisation in that history.
Churches in Europe did have that connection, and rightly so in their own lands. (Often though, they seemed to supplant the local peoples sacred places – a usurpation of existing beliefs with organised religion, meted out in wood and stone. )
So much of Te Ao Maori is linked to whenua. The aspects of kinship and kaitiakitanga are intertwined with the protection of natural resources and awareness of both ancestral links and future descendants need to access those resources. For me, this gives a worldview that is both necessary and heartening. It is less about the geographical space that a marae takes up, but the centre it provides for looking after local people and places.
One of the ways that Pākehā can get over our colonising ways is to learn how to belong to the land again. I see a role for churches or similar in that. While I still have connections back to where my people came from, they're not so strong as to override the connections I experience where I live now. At some point Pākehā will have to come to grips with this, and that includes centering that provides for looking after local people and places. Whether that is by being assimilated into Māoridom, or by living and working alongside in partnership I don't know, but I'm not sure I automatically exclude the latter (and hence the necessity of buildings being deeply connected with place, culture, spirituality).
A strong aspect of Māoridom that I think is neglected, is the allowance of space and growth of the 'other' within Aotearoa, and the sharing of connectedness to land. I value the aspects of the RMA that encourage and facilitate engagement with local iwi, even while I despair at some of the implementations and dialogue around it.
There have been some very successful iwi partnerships with local authorities and communities in regards to conservation and environment. The Waikato River management ; is a good example of everyone being connected in a major undertaking, and understanding being a central result.
And I'm speaking as an individual, rather than for Māori. I don't even have a clue about how overseas marae are regarded amongst others, it's a personal view that doesn't really have much impact one way or another. I would think the only time it would come up is in discussions like this. Alternatively, if I was asked to contribute or support the establishment of an overseas marae, I would decline and explain why. Hopefully, the result would be a discussion of why I am misguided or misinformed, or a new perspective being introduce to the person looking for contributions. More likely, a defensive reaction, but I live in eternal hope.
Khan Sheikhoun and the northern Hama countryside liberated.
A beautiful sight that CNN and BBC will never show us: Mhardeh, the largest Christian town in all of #Syria, is in full celebration mode today following the Syrian Army’s crushing defeat of Al-Qaeda terrorists in #Idlib’s Khan Sheikhoun and the northern Hama countryside. pic.twitter.com/S33SDkXQuz
Not the only Maori area with dirt floors, no running water etc. Plenty about NZ if you stop claiming "there is no poverty in NZ" and actually look around. Good to see it getting coverage – never thought I'd see the day.
In its newly-released report, AGPS documented the death of 17 Palestinian refugees under torture in Syria-s state-run dungeons during the first half of 2019.
In most of the cases, the victims’ families received the death reports following years of enforced disappearance.
AGPS kept record of the secret detention of 1,759 Palestinian refugees in Syrian government prisons.
Interesting facts – I'm pretty impressed by Taylor and Fletchers on this. And I can imagine a dream scenario with multiple benefits across a wide arc of society – wistful thinking for sure
New Zealand’s largest construction company and controversial owner of the disputed Ihumātao land near Auckland airport has made a $164m profit, a big turnaround from its losses last year. Business editor Maria Slade analyses what it all means.
…What did it have to say about the dispute over Ihumātao?
Ross Taylor was asked about it at the media briefing, of course. He reiterated the company line that it was staying out of it. “The prime minister with iwi wanted us to down tools a few weeks ago to allow iwi and government to work through a way forward on that. And we’re very respectfully allowing them that space to do that.
“We’re not involved in those conversations, so we’re waiting for that direction to emerge so we can then work out how to engage and react to it.
…How big a deal is Ihumātao for Fletchers financially?
In monetary terms the project is small beer. Auckland Council currently values the 33 hectare site at $36m, less than a quarter of Fletcher’s $164m annual profit. QV records show the company bought the land in 2014 for $19m when its council valuation was only $11.8m. Once Fletchers got the go-ahead to develop a subdivision the land’s value increased significantly, and that’s also when the long-running protest over its ownership stepped up to the next level.
When you consider that Fletcher’s revenue was $8.3b last year, $36m is a mere ripple. The high profile stoush didn’t even rate a mention at the investors’ briefing following the results announcement, indicating shareholders aren’t losing any sleep over how the company’s bottom line might be affected.
When asked at the earlier media briefing whether the hold-up in developing the land would cost the company, Taylor said it would not. “I mean, we’ve been through a planning process over four years so providing this breathing space is not a problem at all.”
A great interview – honest, and nuanced and I learned a lot.
Criminal lawyer and youth justice advocate Kingi Snelgar thinks that tikanga and prison are "chalk and cheese" and a much wider reform of the entire justice system will be required to lower the number of Māori in jail.
Kim will ask him about his vision for a decolonised justice system and his experiences working as both a Crown prosecutor and a defence lawyer within a system he experiences as both racist and broken.
we need to change our conversation on what can be done, to what must be done.
Frankly i would assume this to be the very first of the events that will lead to the destruction of our society as we know it now. No one even talks about it, the pollution that comes with it, etc.
Not even sure if you can extinguish these fires anymore either, everyone who has an interest will simply just light another one. the green light has been given, and those that profit have decided to take matters in hand. Pretty much the planet is fucked, now its just a question about admitting it.
Also just for fun, have a look at the fires in Alaska. I have a friend who lives there, Salmon are cooked in the rivers and ocean. Dead wales have been washing up all summer there. She is just desperate and heartbroken. So are my friends in Bresil.
people are intentionally lightening fires. It is the regular fire season, so farmers are burning plant debris etc, miners burning up smaller areas of forrests, and such. Essentially if you look again in 24 hours you will see more fires added to it. Ad to that lack of rain – again compounded by the fact that the forest is being decimated add to that no will to actually combat the fires and you have a bit of an issue.
As i said the number that i read about all the ongoing fires in that forest across a few countries not just bresil is 78.000 + . that number alone is staggering and hard to wrap ones mind around.
what must be done? If i were a benevolent dictator i would demand / decree / order (to use the oranges words)
a. all public transport free of charge
b. no more then one vehicle per household ( you better have a good reason wanting more then one and one has to apply for it)
c. increase food product locally and force supermarkets to carry that local food
d. incentives, force farmers to reduce herd sizes, plant natives on steep hills, plant in rivers, stop irrigation where it never made sense to begin with.
e. plant. Plant as much as we can.
f. no more cutting down of trees for parkings/garages etc
g. car free sundays (it was fun being with a bicycle on the motorway in the seventies 🙂 )
high investment in alternative energy, water turbines, wind mills, solar cells
above all honesty to the populace, that really we shat the bed and if we want to continue to sleep in it we must clean the sheets, the matraze, the frames, the duvet, pillows and the bedroom.
However nothing will happen because growth, profits, and gutless polititians, pundits, philosphers, and last but least a populace that can't even conceive of not being entertained.
And for what its worth, i don't have a car. I sold the last toy to insulate my small 55 sqm house, i plant trees, i forage, i get my food locally produced, i don't have mobile phone, my computer is quite old, so is my furniture and yet i seem to miss nothing and still have a good quality of life. I live in a place where going about on foot and on bike is feasable, i have a garden that will feed me- drought and super hot summer permitting. and any protein that i need is provided by the rescue chickens that my relatives haves – they lay an incredible amount of eggs all 63 of the chucks. Non of the chucks ever end up as roast, they live to a long life and are happy sleeping in trees. Well some of them..
We need to collectively stop participating in this madness.
Last but least, we must stop electing people in the hope that they burn down the system expecting them to produce a better one. And when they gay bash, women bash, migrant bash, other bash but promote the burning of the land that you live on one should ask if they really have OUR best interest at heart or their own. Cause frankly the guy in bresil does not give a fuck, he knows that chances are he will survive longer then we do.
The Trump administration took its hardest line yet to legalize anti-gay discrimination on Friday when it asked the Supreme Court to declare that federal law allows private companies to fire workers based only on their sexual orientation.
An amicus brief filed by the Justice Department weighed in on two cases involving gay workers and what is meant by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which bans discrimination "because of sex.” The administration argued courts nationwide should stop reading the civil rights law to protect gay, lesbian, and bisexual workers from bias because it was not originally intended to do so.
Site works well on the Hipster version of OpenIndiania (a public version of Solaris Unix) using Firefox.
There was some kind of issue when I was first looking at the page and the reply ‘button’ didn’t show up. Worked fine on a refresh.
Idle check whilst updating a virtual machine (incredibly slow upgrade mechanism). The operating system works fine in a vmware workstation 15 virtual machine.
Setting this VM up as a reference cross-compile test.
Nice fonts for something that is about 10 years since its last major upgrade.
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Community efforts to create a Predator Free Whangārei will receive a $6 million boost, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Conservation Minister Eugenie Sage announced today. The new funding, through Government company Predator Free 2050 Ltd, will create around 12 jobs while enabling the complete removal of possums over ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has announced that the New Zealand Government is reviewing the settings of its relationship with Hong Kong. “China’s decision to pass a new national security law for Hong Kong has fundamentally changed the environment for international engagement there,” Mr Peters said. “New Zealand remains deeply ...
Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has announced details of a multimillion-dollar investment in Whangārei for infrastructure projects that will help it recover from the economic fallout from the COVID-19 pandemic. More than 200 jobs are expected to be created through the $26 million investment from the Government’s rejuvenation package ...
Following a second incident in which a person escaped from a managed isolation facility, security is being enhanced, including more police presence onsite, Minister Megan Woods said. “The actions of some individuals who choose to break the very clear rules to stay within the facilities means that more resourcing is ...
Waste reduction and recycling programmes in Kaipara are set to get a boost with Associate Environment Minister Eugenie Sage today announcing a $361,447 grant from the Ministry for the Environment’s Waste Minimisation Fund (WMF) Sustainable Kaipara. “The new funding will allow Sustainable Kaipara to partner with local schools, kura, community ...
The Government will support the Southland economy in the wake of multinational mining company Rio Tinto’s decision to follow through with its long signalled closure of the Tiwai Point aluminium smelter. “This day has unfortunately been on the cards for some time now, but nevertheless the final decision is a ...
New tools being developed to help boost Aotearoa’s Predator Free 2050 effort were unveiled today by Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage and Under Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau. A new rat poison, a camera with predator recognition software to detect and report predators, a new predator lure and a ...
The Coalition Government has approved the purchase of a fleet of Bushmaster vehicles to replace the New Zealand Army’s armoured Pinzgauers, Defence Minister Ron Mark has announced today. The new fleet of 43 Australian-designed and built Bushmaster NZ5.5 will provide better protection for personnel and improved carrying capacity. “The age ...
The Government’s three prevention frameworks to reduce family violence in Aotearoa were launched this week by Associate Minister for Social Development Poto Williams. The frameworks were developed in partnership with communities around New Zealand, and build on the work the Government has already begun with its new family violence prevention ...
The Government is pleased to confirm funding for improvements to radiology and surgical services at Hawke's Bay DHB, Health Minister Chris Hipkins says. "The Minister of Finance the Hon Grant Robertson and former Health Minister Dr David Clark approved funding for Hawke's Bay DHB’s redevelopment of their radiology facilities ...
• New funding for four beds at Napier’s Springhill Residential Addiction Centre • A new managed withdrawal home and community service, and peer support before and after residential care at Tairāwhiti DHB • A co-ordinated network of withdrawal management services throughout the South Island • Peer support in Rotorua and ...
Introduction, seafarers and POAL Good morning everyone, I am delighted to be online with you all today. Before I begin, I have to acknowledge that COVID-19 has disrupted the maritime sector on an unprecedented scale. The work of seafarers and the maritime industry is keeping many economies around the world ...
A $13 million investment from Government will create jobs and improve the resilience of the rail connection between Christchurch and the West Coast, Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones and Regional Economic Development Under-Secretary Fletcher Tabuteau say. The funding comes from the tagged contingency set aside in Budget 2020 for infrastructure projects ...
The Government is investing $761 million to assist local government upgrade under-pressure water services across the country, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta announced today. The announcement was made at the site of the water bore that was found to be the source of the fatal ...
Recognised Seasonal Employers and migrant seasonal workers stranded in New Zealand will be able to continue working and supporting themselves with more flexible hours and roles, says Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway. The time-limited visa changes are: Stranded RSE workers will be able to work part-time (a minimum of 15 hours ...
The Government is making immediate short-term changes to visa settings to support temporary migrants already onshore in New Zealand and their employers, while also ensuring New Zealanders needing work are prioritised, Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. We are: Extending temporary work visas due to expire by the end of 2020 ...
Professor Peter Skelton CNZM has been appointed as Chief Freshwater Commissioner and Alternate Environment Court Judge Craig James Thompson as Deputy Chief Freshwater Commissioner for the newly established Freshwater Planning Process (FPP). Environment Minister David Parker today also announced the appointment of Chief Environment Court Judge Laurie Newhook as the ...
Auckland Queen’s Counsel Neil Campbell has been appointed a Judge of the High Court, Attorney‑General David Parker announced today. Justice Campbell graduated with a BCom and LLB (Hons) from the University of Auckland in 1992. He spent two years with Bell Gully Buddle Weir in Auckland before travelling to the United ...
The Associate Minister for Greater Christchurch Regeneration, Poto Williams, is seeking feedback on a proposal to better enable the development and operation of commercial film and video facilities in Christchurch. The Proposal, developed by Regenerate Christchurch in response to a request from Christchurch City Council, asks that powers under section ...
The Government has launched a bold plan to boost primary sector export earnings by $44 billion over the next decade, while protecting the environment and growing jobs. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today released Fit for a Better World – Accelerating our Economic Potential, a 10-year roadmap to unlock greater value ...
A new approach to prevent family harm that encourages greater collaboration across government and community groups is being celebrated at the opening of a new facility in Auckland. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today opened the Multi-Disciplinary Family Harm Prevention Hub Te Taanga Manawa in Lambie Road in Manukau. The facility ...
The Government has released a major new report on the options for relocating the Port of Auckland’s freight operations while deferring any decision on the issue. “That decision needs to be informed by policy analysis that is still to be completed. As a result it will be up to a ...
The history of Rāpaki is being restored through the inclusion of te reo in thirteen official place names on Te Pātaka-o-Rākaihautū / Banks Peninsula and around Lyttelton Harbour/Whakaraupō, the Minister for Land Information, Eugenie Sage, announced today. “I am pleased to approve the proposals from Te Hapū o Ngāti ...
Bookings for seats on Air New Zealand flights into New Zealand will be managed in the short term to ensure the Government is able to safely place New Zealanders arriving home into a managed isolation or quarantine facility, says Housing Minister Megan Woods. “Last week Air Commodore Darryn Webb and I ...
Grant Robertson has today announced the first major release of funding from the $265 million Sport Recovery Package announced at Budget 2020. “Today we’re setting out how $80 million will be invested, with $54 million of that over the 2020/2021 financial year for organisations from community level through to elite ...
The Government is maintaining current levy rates for the next 2 years, as part of a set of changes to help ease the financial pressures of COVID-19 providing certainty for businesses and New Zealanders, ACC Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. “New Zealanders and businesses are facing unprecedented financial pressures as a ...
Small businesses are getting greater certainty about access to finance with an extension to the interest-free cashflow loan scheme to the end of the year. The Small Business Cashflow Loan Scheme has already been extended once, to 24 July. Revenue and Small Business Minister Stuart Nash says it will be ...
A package of 23 projects across the country will clean up waterways and deliver over 2000 jobs Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Environment Minister David Parker announced today. The $162 million dollar package will see 22 water clean-up projects put forward by local councils receiving $62 million and the Kaipara ...
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The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing $1.5 million to ensure QE Health in Rotorua can proceed with its world class health service and save 75 existing jobs, Under Secretary for Regional Economic Development, Fletcher Tabuteau announced today. The PGF funding announced today is in addition to the $8 million ...
A new programme, which sets a firm course for the Building and Construction sector to help reduce greenhouse gas emissions, has been announced by the Minister for Building and Construction Jenny Salesa. “A significant amount of New Zealand’s carbon emissions come from the building and construction sector. If we’re serious ...
The Provincial Growth Fund is investing more than $7.5 million in Northland ventures to combat the economic impact of the COVID-19 virus, Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones have announced. The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) investment is going to the Northern Adventure Experience and ...
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Education Minister Chris Hipkins today announced significant funding for Auckland’s Northcote College as part of the first wave of a new nationwide school redevelopment programme to upgrade schools over the next 10 years. The $48.5 million project brings the total investment in Northcote College to ...
The Government has opened an urgent response fund to support schools and early learning services to get children and young people back on track after the Covid-19 lockdown. “While we are seeing improvements in attendance under Alert Level 1 Ministry of Education data shows that attendance rates in our schools ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Adrian Esterman, Professor of Biostatistics, University of South Australia Victoria has recorded 288 new COVID-19 cases since yesterday, the largest daily increase we’ve seen so far. This big jump must have the Victorian government and health authorities very concerned, especially since nearly ...
The controversial 101 East episode Locked Up in Malaysia’s Lockdown on 3 July 2020. Video: Al JazeeraPacific Media Watch Newsdesk Malaysian police summoned six Al Jazeera media workers today for questioning relating to an investigation for defamation and violation of Malaysia’s Communications and Multimedia Act (CMA), reports IFJ Asia-Pacific. ...
Analysis - A National MP destroys his career, the government explains how someone with Covid-19 could walk around a supermarket and the closure of Tiwai Point aluminium smelter is announced. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Abrar Ahmad Chughtai, Epidemiologist, UNSW Australia’s chief medical officer Paul Kelly today recommended people in Melbourne and the Mitchell Shire wear masks when leaving the house: […] If people have symptoms and they need to go for a test, for example, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rochelle Wynne, Director, Western Sydney Nursing & Midwifery Research Centre, Western Sydney University Over the past week, we’ve seen a spike in the number of COVID-19 infections among health-care workers in Victoria. This includes a doctor at Melbourne’s St Vincent’s Hospital, one ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra University of Canberra Vice-Chancellor and President Professor Paddy Nixon and Professorial Fellow Michelle Grattan discuss the week in politics including the return to lockdown in Victoria, National Cabinet setting to slow the flow of Australian’s ...
We prefer our heroes untarnished. And few match the heroism of Winston Churchill. But a recent report in the Times reminds us of the inevitability of human frailty and the consequences of keeping it under wraps.During the second world war, Britain’s greatest single loss of life at sea was the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ou Yang, Research Fellow, University of Melbourne Donald Trump has ordered US federal agencies to bypass environmental protection laws and fast-track pipeline, highway and other infrastructure projects. Signing the executive order last month, the US president declared regulatory delays would hinder “our ...
SAFE CEO Debra Ashton says "The NZDIA has done the right thing, and we’re glad to see Bertram has been held to account over his actions. He should take this as an opportunity to right his wrongs and show that he takes animal welfare seriously." ...
Takuta Ferris, Te Tai Tonga candidate for the Māori Party, is urging government to place whānau first in the wake of announcements around Tiwai Point. “The declaration that one of the region's major employers the Tiwai Point aluminium smelter is closing ...
Dietary Requirements is The Spinoff’s monthly podcast in which we eat, drink and talk about it too, with special thanks to Freedom Farms. This month, we’re joined by The Spinoff’s managing editor, mall rat and self-confessed food philistine Duncan Greive.On this month’s Dietary Requirements, the gang’s back in the studio, and ...
Analysis by Keith Rankin. Chart 1: United States and Australia rising. Chart by Keith Rankin. These charts look at Covid19 incidence in China (the most important first-wave country, with a limited second wave), Italy (the lead second-wave country), and USA and Australia (second-wave countries – drawing their caseload from Europe ...
The Government must listen to the Muslim community to rectify its failure to act in the past, says the Human Rights Commission. The Islamic Women’s Council of New Zealand (IWCNZ) submission to the Royal Commission of Inquiry was released this week. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Hugh Breakey, President, Australian Association for Professional & Applied Ethics. Senior Research Fellow, Moral philosophy, Institute for Ethics, Governance & Law, Law Futures Centre., Griffith University Earlier this week, 150 high-profile authors, commentators and scholars signed an open letter in Harper’s magazine ...
You can’t keep a good woman down and Helen Clark is no exception. Her new appointment, as co-chair of a review of how the World Health Organisation handled the coronavirus pandemic, will test her formidable political skills. Sitting with her is Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, former Liberian president, who handled the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jonathan Connor, Lecturer, James Cook University While many people may enjoy a game of backyard cricket, only a few go on to become elite professional batsmen in Australia. Cricket batting is example of what human skills can achieve. The fastest bowling delivery ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Lee Baumgartner, Professor of Fisheries and River Management, Institute for Land, Water, and Society, Charles Sturt University This article is a preview of Flora, Fauna, Fire, a multimedia project launching on Monday July 13. The project tracks the recovery of Australia’s native ...
CEAC review of pre-election National’s “outline plan” just sent to us by Todd Muller 9/7/20 was actually his speech about his plan and was described as ‘an outline’. So in our review of National Party response to A Greener, Smarter Future; climate ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Andrew Podger, Honorary Professor of Public Policy, Australian National University In Hidden Hand, China scholars Clive Hamilton and Marieke Ohlberg examine the Chinese Communist Party’s influence in Europe and North America in a similar way to how Hamilton dissected the CCP’s influence ...
“I can see why people are fed up, many are wondering how to clothe and feed their kids, or how they are going to pay their rent next week and still others are wondering what has happened to our beautiful Kiwi Way of Life. Well no party in parliament ...
Pacific Media Watch Newsdesk Sixty press freedom groups and civil society organisations, journalism institutions, filmmakers, and other supporters have formed a coalition in support of Maria Ressa and independent media in the Philippines, united around the call to #HoldTheLine. Today the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), the International Center for ...
National MP Michael Woodhouse also received Covid-19 patient emails from Michelle Boag, and deleted them when he realised she was implicated in a separate email scandal. National Party leader Todd Muller says no further MPs in his party received confidential information from Michelle Boag, after revelations today that Michael Woodhouse also ...
The government is extending border exceptions to allow overseas victims of the Christchurch mosque attacks and their support people to attend the shooter's sentencing. ...
Ever wanted to be Iron Man? Sam Brooks prefers Pepper Potts, but he had a great time stepping into the iron suit anyway.The first few moments of Iron Man VR are where it plays its hand, confidently and assuredly. You hold your palms out in front of you, and Iron ...
SAP has released to the public a policy paper, “Helping Kiwis get back to work: How data and technology can drive a bigger, better, faster economic recovery.” ...
A new poem by Jordan Hamel.Mermaids When you lose grip and start to drift.The first thing you’re supposed to do issteer into it or steer away? Not all mermaids are royaltysomeone needs to audit the oceanprovide cashflow projectionssome mermaids are actuallymiddle-aged accountants named Stephendreaming of a land-view holiday home. I saw a ...
Want to work for The Spinoff? We’re looking for someone to fill an exciting new role based in our Auckland office. We’re looking for a video and podcast content manager: an experienced writer or sub-editor with a strong understanding of social media to manage our video and podcast content across various channels. ...
National Party leader Todd Muller says no further MPs in his party received confidential information from Michelle Boag, after revelations today that Michael Woodhouse also received four unsolicited emails. ...
By RNZ News Opposition National list MP Dr Jian Yang has announced his retirement from New Zealand politics and says he will not stand in the 2020 general election after three terms in the party caucus. He said politics was “demanding” and he wanted to spend more time with his ...
Bayer-Monsanto's June 24 announcement of a US$10.9 billion pay out (1) to people who have been harmed by Glyphosate, is effectively an admission of guilt. Spokesperson for The People’s Inquiry 2020 Asha Andersen says, “The Ministry of Health, The ...
The Taxpayers’ Union has filed a complaint with the Electoral Commission and the Parliamentary Speaker’s Office over Lawrence Yule’s new taxpayer funded billboards promoting Mr Yule as the ‘Voice in Tukituki’. Union spokesman, Louis Houlbrooke ...
Ten points, two plans. Which points are whose? With an election within spitting distance, Aotearoa’s two biggest political parties are all about the plans. “You don’t have a plan!” says one party to the other. “Yes we have a plan, or certainly a plan to have a plan, or a plan ...
Four months after he announced his re-selection, a National Party MP whose links to Chinese spy agencies attracted the interest of New Zealand’s Security Intelligence Service has announced he will not stand in the next election A three-term National Party MP who studied at an elite Chinese spy school before moving to ...
National list MP Dr Jian Yang announced his retirement from politics and said he would not stand in the 2020 general election after three terms in the party caucus. ...
A new political party, the New Zealand TEA Party, with headquarters in Auckland, has been established. The party aims to contest the queen- or kingmaker position to form a coalition with the largest parliamentary party as part of the general elections ...
A review has determined fish oils are non-hazardous and no longer require oversight by the Environmental Protection Authority (EPA). We regulate pesticides, household chemicals and other dangerous goods and substances under the Hazardous Substances ...
New Conservative calls on the government to join with our Five Eyes allies and add New Zealand's signature to a joint statement condemning the continued removal of freedoms in Hong Kong. New Conservative also calls on the government to give safe-haven ...
Latest from the Beehive – Hard on the heels of the government promising help for the Southland economy in the wake of Rio Tinto’s decision to close the Tiwai Point aluminium smelter, it was announcing the delivery of more money to the North, at the other end of the country. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Luciano Beheregaray, Professor in Biodiversity Genomics, Flinders University As the global climate shifts, it’s important to know which species have adaptations to survive. Our research published today in PNAS found it largely depends on where they evolved. We looked at the capacity ...
From eggplant emojis and twerking llamas to sweaty anthropomorphic butts, we present some of the most fascinating, hilarious and outrageous complaints dismissed by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) from 2019 to now.Avocadon’t (January 2019)The ad: In this ad from Specsavers, a man gets ready to join a cricket match, but ...
They might sound like the same thing, but light rail is quite different from light metro – the system that transport minister Phil Twyford now favours for Auckland. Katy Wakefield and Jessica Rose of Women in Urbanism explain why the metro option is a poor substitute for LRT. Transport is ...
Why isn't the Government spending $30m to extend Tiwai Point's 2,600 jobs until after the Covid-19 recession, after Manapouri's power can be transmitted elsewhere, and after there's a hydrogen plan for the smelter site, Bernard Hickey asks. The sense of shock and foreboding about the future was clear in Invercargill Mayor ...
An intensive care doctor is outraged health officials are giving helicopter rescue trusts a daily list of Covid-19 patients, saying it's completely unnecessary. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Seth Lazar, Professor, Australian National University In the US, tireless opposition to state use of facial recognition algorithms has recently won some victories. Some progressive cities have banned some uses of the technology. Threetechcompanies have pulled facial recognition products from ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rick Sarre, Adjunct Professor of Law and Criminal Justice, University of South Australia Facial recognition technology is increasingly being trialled and deployed around Australia. Queensland and Western Australia are reportedly already using real-time facial recognition through CCTV cameras. 7-Eleven Australia is also ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Carol T Kulik, Research Professor of Human Resource Management, University of South Australia The coronavirus pandemic has forced many of us to work from home, often in less than ideal circumstances. Many employees had little choice in the decision, limited time to ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Katja Hogendoorn, University of Adelaide This article is a preview of Flora, Fauna, Fire, a multimedia project launching on Monday July 13. The project tracks the recovery of Australia’s native plants and animals after last summer’s bushfire tragedy. Sign up to The ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By SriPallavi Nadimpalli, PhD Candidate, University of Melbourne Women manage many overlapping responsibilities in both public and private spheres. Their busy routines leave them with just a little time to take a break or a pause in their activity. These pauses are a ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Naoise McDonagh, Lecturer in Political Economy, University of Adelaide The pandemic has changed the way we think about supply chains, in particular the chains that feed our need for food, medical supplies, and defence equipment. It has led Prime Minister Scott Morrison ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Richard Holden, Professor of Economics, UNSW As Victoria grapples with a second-wave outbreak of COVID-19, the importance of large-scale testing has again been highlighted. Without its “testing blitz” aiming at 10,000 tests a day, the extent of the outbreak would have been ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jean Burgess, Professor and Director, Digital Media Research Centre, Queensland University of Technology Perhaps no single character has been as iconic a symbol of Twitter as the now-ubiquitous hashtag. The syntax of the hashtag has a few simple rules: it consists of ...
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Good morning and welcome to The Bulletin. In today’s edition: Major implications from Tiwai Pt closure, diplomatic rift over Hong Kong deepens, and grim new approach to managed isolation.The story of Rio Tinto pulling out of the Tiwai Point smelter is one that shows the deep connections between regional stories ...
How can Southland cope without its engine and biggest employer, the Tiwai Point smelter? Invercargill's deputy mayor Toni Biddle and Dee St businesswoman Anne Marie Thomas on what happens nowToni Biddle: "We've always known this could potentially happen. So, therefore, there has been a huge amount of work done in the background ...
This week's biggest-selling New Zealand books, as recorded by the Nielsen BookScan New Zealand bestseller list and described by Steve Braunias.NON-FICTION 1 Pull No Punches by Judith Collins (Allen & Unwin, $36.99) Junk. 2 Vegful by Nadia Lim (Nude Food, $55) 3 The Book of Overthinking by Gwendoline ...
Most Kiwis aren't aware that the end of life choice act is not a concept they'll be voting for, but specific, unmovable legislation. And if we make a mistake, death is a heavy penalty, writes Caralise Trayes. A new Colmar Brunton poll revealed last weekend doesn’t do any favours in helping people ...
Talented teenage shooter Khiarna Williams is committed to travelling 18 hours a week - after school - to realise her netball dreams. Three times a week, 17-year-old Khiarna Williams gets picked up from school to make a six-hour round trip, from Whakatāne to Hamilton, to train with the Magic. Her designated driver ...
Dr Michael SW Lee uses an Easter egg hunt analogy to explain wealth distribution and our innate sense of fairness Ten kids are at an Easter egg hunt searching for 100 eggs. Donald was fortunate, he inherited an Easter egg detector. He spends four hours looking and collects 40 eggs. Steve is a ...
In theory, the closure of Tiwai Point aluminium smelter should bring down electricity prices and help get New Zealand closer to its Carbon Zero 2050 goal. In practice, that isn’t so easy. The announcement Tiwai Point aluminium smelter will close by August next year is a massive blow for the ...
Today The Beths release Jump Rope Gazers, the follow-up to their beloved and acclaimed debut album Future Me Hates Me. Back in December, Side Eye cartoonist Toby Morris joined the band in the studio while they recorded ‘Just Shy of Sure’, which you can listen to here: ...
Three big announcements this week heralded our healthy and profitable future. Those standing in the way, argues Rod Oram, are as out of step as the Think Big world from which they hail. ...
Making the capital earthquake resilient involves billions of dollars, a tonne of anxiety and apartment owners who've had enough of the yellow-sticker nightmare. Time is running out for hundreds of apartment owners in Wellington who face big bills to fix their earthquake-risk buildings. About 1000 buildings in the capital ...
SPECIAL REPORT:By David Robie, who sailed on the original Rainbow Warrior to Rongelap and is author of the bookEyes of Fire. Thirty five years ago today the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior was bombed in Auckland’s Waitematā Harbour by French secret agents in a blatant act of state terrorism, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra Scott Morrison summoned his self-restraint and resisted temptation. Invited on Thursday to attack the Victorian government over its disastrous decision to use private security guards to monitor people in hotel quarantine, the prime minister was ...
A new EP from an unknown Auckland singer ignited a bidding war before she’d released a single. Today ‘Call You Out’ is released, with eerie parallels to Lorde’s rise. Duncan Greive meets the artist known as Deryk.Madeline Bradley wasn’t expecting a lot. She’d been to dozens of these meetings over ...
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Check out Speak Up For Women’s new podcasts: Episode 3 In this episode Speak Up For Women spokeswoman Ani O’Brien (@aniobrien) is joined by Beth Johnson (@beth_nosnhoj) to discuss the proposal from Statistics NZ to change standard data collection policy to “gender by default” rather than sex. They discuss why the ...6 hours ago
During a recent public consultation on the future of Archives New Zealand, a key report was suppressed. The Ombudsman has ruled that the refusal was unjustified. Sadly, the consultation was over by the time of the the decision has been made. However, the law on the use of the ...7 hours ago
National MP - Michael WoodhouseUnbelievable! Michelle Boag also sent National’s Michael Woodhouse confidential emails about COVD-19 patients, and he continued to publicly attack the Government over these very same breaches of privacy.This is the biggest political self-own since the Act Party’s David Garrett admitted in Parliament that he used a ...14 hours ago
Everyone is paying attention today to the Supreme Court ruling that the President is not above the law and that Trump's tax returns can be given to a New York grand jury investigating him. But the Supreme Court decided another, far more important case yesterday, and effectively restored Native American ...14 hours ago
Transcript: National Party policy announcement on roads – 8 July, 2020 Muller: Good afternoon everybody. Thank you for coming. Reporter 1: Is Hamish Walker a racist? Muller: Hang on… you haven’t even said good afternoon to me yet. Reporter 1: Good afternoon Mr Muller. Is Hamish Walker a racist? ...15 hours ago
Back in April, I wrote about trials in Iran of a fixed-dose combination of two existing anti-viral drugs used to treat hepatitis C – sofosbuvir and daclatasvir – that could point to an effective treatment for Covid-19 symptoms.At the time, data from those trials was not available outside the hospitals ...16 hours ago
Today’s content Tiwai Point to close Hamish Rutherford (Herald): Government subsidising practically everything plays hardball with Rio Tinto (paywalled) Tom Pullar-Strecker (Stuff): Sudden closure of aluminium smelter worst outcome for jobs, consumers and the environment Brian Fallow (Herald): Tiwai closure sad news – and an opportunity for the environment (paywalled) Heather du Plessis-Allan (Newstalk ZB): Rio ...17 hours ago
Prof Nick Wilson, Dr Anja Mizdrak, Dr Jennifer Summers, Prof Michael Baker The pandemic-related lockdown is possibly the most dramatic public health intervention in NZ history. It helped achieve the elimination of community transmission of the COVID-19 virus in NZ. But it was also associated with 548 fewer total ...17 hours ago
Reprehensible: There is much that could be said about Michael Woodhouse, but what would be the point? Any man who willingly involves himself in a situation as reprehensible as the one depicted in the above photograph has already vouchsafed all that decent people need to know about his character. That there have ...19 hours ago
79 Articles Observations & observational methods of global warming & effects Six hundred years of South American tree rings reveal an increase in severe hydroclimatic events since mid-20th century (open access) Late summer temperature variability for the Southern Rocky Mountains (USA) since 1735 CE: applying blue light intensity to low-latitude ...2 days ago
Some are surprised at this sudden brain implosion on the part of both Michelle Boag, former National Party President, and the National Party in general, in exposing the private, confidential details of COVID patients. Others…? Let’s be blunt: not so much. Too many of that Party have long operated with ...2 days ago
So now we know, beyond all doubt. The National party has no interest in joining the “team of five million” in our fight against the pandemic but its priority is to take every opportunity it can to damage the government. The cynicism is breathtaking. It was prepared to leak the ...3 days ago
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Mark Patterson MP, Spokesperson for Primary Industry New Zealand First is supporting calls by hunters and the New Zealand Tahr Foundation (NZTF) to halt a large scale cull of Himalayan Tahr by the Department of Conservation in National Parks. The calls are supported by a 40,000 strong petition and the ...3 days ago
New Zealanders deserve healthy rivers and lakes that are safe to swim in - but they have been getting worse for decades. That's why, with our latest announcement, we're investing in projects that will help clean up our rivers and lakes and restore them to health, within a generation. ...5 days ago
The Green Party has opposed the COVID-19 Recovery Fast-track Consenting Bill which shortcuts normal consenting processes under the Resource Management Act (RMA), reduces public participation and narrows environmental considerations. ...1 week ago
The Minister of Police says a major operation against the Mongrel Mob in Waikato will make a big dent in drug harm and violent offending linked to organised crime networks. “Senior leadership of the Waikato Mongrel Mob has been taken out as a result of Operation Kingsville, which resulted in ...11 hours ago
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Adrian Esterman, Professor of Biostatistics, University of South Australia Victoria has recorded 288 new COVID-19 cases since yesterday, the largest daily increase we’ve seen so far. This big jump must have the Victorian government and health authorities very concerned, especially since nearly ...4 hours ago
Analysis - A National MP destroys his career, the government explains how someone with Covid-19 could walk around a supermarket and the closure of Tiwai Point aluminium smelter is announced. ...6 hours ago
We prefer our heroes untarnished. And few match the heroism of Winston Churchill. But a recent report in the Times reminds us of the inevitability of human frailty and the consequences of keeping it under wraps. During the second world war, Britain’s greatest single loss of life at sea was the ...7 hours ago
SAFE CEO Debra Ashton says "The NZDIA has done the right thing, and we’re glad to see Bertram has been held to account over his actions. He should take this as an opportunity to right his wrongs and show that he takes animal welfare seriously." ...8 hours ago
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I have noticed greater numbers of tuis around our area and at council parks that Saturday sports are held at, just wondering if this observation can be supported by others( I hope others have noticed the same)
What area are you in @Heridotus? There's definitely been a huge change in the bird population here in Wellington (adjacent to the Town Belt) since Zealandia has become well established
Eastern auckland
With all this talk of intensification of housing and watching English sport and still seeing large areas of inner cbds with large areas of tree coverage, I worry that Auckland is destroying any resemblance of being anything but a concrete jungle. Council parks, schools establish 1/4 acre blocks having trees chopped down that we will be left with sparrows and miners.
"Eastern Auckland".
My deepest sympathy. It's going to take a while (unless it all goes tits up as it inevitably will). I think maybe the birds stand a better chance though
Yes. They usually make themselves scarce around my local parts over the winter months and return in the spring when the trees etc. are starting to flower. I have noticed quite a few around in the past few weeks. I live on the North Shore peninsular (Devonport etc.)
It's now common to hear tuis where I live, and where I work. I often have them in the garden, due to having a couple of bottlebrushes, a coral tree (they love that one) and various fruit trees. I’ve even had a kereru out there a couple of times, and I live well inside the city boundary.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/115246462/tainui-saves-the-government-from-a-seabed-and-foreshore-moment
Garner and news hub are still the only ones saying a deal is done and dusted at ihimatao.
Newton sidelined.
if you listen to idiots you'll end up thinking the same – try a better source of info I'd say
And who is a better source? Just because you don't like Garner, et al, doesn't mean he is not well informed.
The comment by Shane Jones later in the day certainly seemed to indicate that Tainui is likely to buy the land from Fletchers. And Jones seemed to envisage Tainui doing a substantial part of the proposed building development. Perhaps not the full 450 as proposed by Fletchers, but likely a substantial proportion.
While Pania Newton may not have been the primary negotiator for this outcome, and may not have even been included in the negotiations, the occupation led by her will be the primary cause for Tainui to be involved.
lol – there are many better sources – try opening your mind a bit sheesh
Such as?
you don't know any other sources of information on Māori issues apart for duncan garner? for real?
I’d like to think that there are many readers of TS, who are invisible because they don’t comment here, and who would find it helpful if you could provide links to those “many better sources” that you refer to. Some, but not all, may indeed open their minds and broaden their horizons. Isn’t that what you wish for? For real.
lol you sound a bit emotional.
You are not forthcoming 🙁
The likes of Garner are well-connected but they also act as a BS-transformer. You can counter it, if you wish, or you can snipe …
yes I can do what I want within the rules of the site can't I? Is there a problem with that from your point of view as a moderator?
lol you sound a bit recalcitrant.
From a Moderator’s perspective, we can do without The Smiling Sniper, if you must ask.
you'll need to be more specific please I don't know what you mean. I don't think garner has any value on this or any other topic – others may disagree – so what.
Is there more to this than this mornings posts from me – it seems personal somehow.
Not personal, I don’t like snipers – they take aim at selected targets – and I’m disappointed when people don’t want to be helpful even when they clearly and easily can be.
That’s it from me as I have expressed my hopes clearly enough.
thanks for clarifying. sorry I haven't met your expectations. I try to be pithy and that has disadvantages for sure. I do try to balance my scintillating attacks with calm pieces too but I am a work in progress. 🙂
PS and i try to be funny – always a double edged sword that one
Readers come and readers go here. They may look for an authentic perspective not some hyped up piece in MSM. They may want to learn something new. They may come here to confirm their prejudices and stereotypes.
I believe this site has much to offer and can help to build bridges based on mutual respect, trust, and understanding. The people who write here, people like you and (much less so) me, make the site what it is. It is a work in progress and it is a collective effort. The work is never done.
Thanks thats clearer. I would agree repeating stuff from Garner often isnt worth the effort.
Can I ask which actual comment you were replying to? When the reply buttons run out it can get a little confusing 😉
lol you sound a bit emotional.
In other words, no you don't have any better sources of information.
nice twister – hint – the giveaway is the "in other words" bit – if you want more impact just leave that weak shit out and then you'll be good to go with the twist hidden a little by the outrage generated – similar to dead cat sorta
The main point of incognito ( if I may summarise?)is lots of people get useful information from posts..because they provide a wider view. Doesnt have to be only stuff you agree with. But it needs to be information not empty catch phrases.
I look at the awesome online magazine, https://e-tangata.co.nz/ for a Maori view ( and not Garner) of events
it is pathetic that people don't have good info sources – wtf? there should be some lowering of the head but there won't be – I'll be blamed I'm sure.
Funny thing is I put lots of links to Māori news sources and thought on this site every week. EVERY WEEK.
ffs
General comment looking at this thread.
1. If you want to know what Māori involved in the negotiations think, go read what Tainui and Kiingitanga have already said on the matter.
2. It's an opinion piece from Garner. He's shit stirring, and he's using his considerable institutional power to attack SOUL and support the outcome he wants. It's racist as fuck and fits with his reactionary conservative history on most matters.
3. please don't expect the one or two politicised Māori commenters in this thread to do you mahi for you. There are plenty of mainstream Māori media outlets covering Ihumātao. Google them if you don't know (and don't take the first 50 hits from the past week, because they're now loaded with Pākehā voices). Or ask politely from the general commentariat.
4. lefites, please don't do the rights work for them.
If we want TS to have more diverse commenters and writers, then we have to learn how to make this place work for a range of people. Much could be learned about that from SOUL currently.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/397328/there-is-no-deal-waikato-tainui-leader
nice twister
If you comment that there are "many better sources" of information than the one a fellow commenter linked to, are then asked to provide an example of one of these "many better sources" but refuse to provide one, people are entitled to assume you're just a blowhard.
Given your history on this site and the fact that there certainly are many better sources of info than Duncan Garner for any given subject, no doubt you're not bullshitting. But some (many?) of the people reading this thread won't know those things and may assume you're a blowhard. Wouldn't it have been better just to give a couple of examples?
I just don't like being told what to do in that way.
pretty much everyone in this thread is a long termer. If marty is the only one considered to know good sources of information on Ihumātao, or Māori issues generally, that's a problem (I personally don't believe it, but maybe I'm wrong).
for comparison, feminists routinely have to deal with this shit, men expecting them to do the mahi of educating them. We have the internet for a reason.
I'll just write this off as a weird day on TS, but honestly, having a go at a Māori man who most people here know who criticised using Duncan Garner of all people as a source on Māori issues? Instead of having a go at Garner. Weird.
"I just don't like being told what to do in that way."
There's the nub.
Its in the Policy.
"…We are intolerant of people starting or continuing flamewars where there is little discussion or debate. This includes making assertions that you are unable to substantiate with some proof (and that doesn’t mean endless links to unsubstantial authorities) or even argue when requested to do so.”
Saying that assertions dont have to be backed up is contrary to policy as it would seem 'do your own work , thats what the internet is for.'
LOL.. so is arguing when asked for 'proof' or some backup.
Are you saying these policies dont apply Weka ?
[In this context? Of course not. Marty’s original two comments that there were better sources of information on the topic than Garner seem reasonable to me. He was expressing his opinion, people are free to disagree if they believe that there are no better sources of information than Garner, and then we can debate that I guess and people can start linking to support their view.
Marty wasn’t starting a flamewar. He also pointed out that he regularly posts links to Māori news sources. I don’t know what’s going on here but I still find it bizarre that people are having a go at him over a couple of brief comments that Garner is not a good source of news on Te Ao Māori.
You’ve left out this bit of the policy: What we’re not prepared to accept are pointless personal attacks, or tone or language that has the effect of excluding others. This will vary among moderators but my own view is that if we want to not exclude people then as well as behavioural issues there are issues of culture. Hence my comments about Māori or women being expected to do the leg work for others and that this creates an unwelcoming atmosphere.
There’s nothing in today’s debate that made me think about moderating until you invoked me. With my moderator hat on I’m inclined to say, don’t be a dick. You yourself were one of the few people who linked to another news source, so I’m not sure what you are doing here other than being argumentative for the sake of it.
If you are instead seeking clarity on moderation, I hope this helps. – weka]
…but honestly, having a go at a Māori man who most people here know who criticised using Duncan Garner of all people as a source on Māori issues?
I wouldn't support using Duncan Garner as a source on any issue, but it pushes my buttons when commenters assert something and then reject any obligation to support their assertion. Whether they're Māori or not isn't a factor, and shouldn't be.
I guess it just seemed such an obvious thing as to not need any back up. Like if I said I thought FB was a stupid place to get news from and there were better places. It's an opinion, and people can agree or disagree, but does it really need explaining?
I have a different take on it.
Sure, people can express an opinion and when they are (repeatedly!) asked to back it up with a smidgen of information I think that is a reasonable request. These requests were denied/ignored in a petulant way IMO because there was no obvious good reason to refuse the requests.
I don’t see this as doing the legwork for others. I see it as being helpful and reaching out to others. All it needs to be is a link or a starting point for an internet search. After all, these were “better” sources than Duncan Garner’s one on an imminent deal with Tainui. What are the chances of doing a search, reporting back here in good faith, and then getting pooh-poohed again because that source is not reliable either?
To write off another opinion (piece) because (of) Duncan is understandable – I’d do it myself – but Wayne made a good point @ 3.1.1. that it may have more (?) to do with disliking Garner and/or what he said. The whole Garner thing feels like shooting the messenger. It was an unhelpful sideshow.
Garner’s piece was on the most recent developments (or not) and it would have been useful and relevant for me and I presume others to find at least one other source that could either confirm or refute Garner’s. None has been forthcoming thus far …
I posted upthread to an RNZ piece where Kingiitanga are saying no deal has been done. Afaik the only people in the conversations are Māori with a hand in the game. eg there are no Labour MPs there. Garner may well have a source from inside the tent, who knows how reliable that is, but either way my own view is that Garner is shit stirring, because that's what he does. He's racist, and a misogynist, and yes that colours my view because his history on this is solid. Much like anything that came out of Key's mouth needed to be understood in a certain context.
I agree that it's reasonable to ask people to back up opinions. I don't think it's reasonable to demand people do that unless there is something particularly unusual about the opinion. You asked, and you and marty had a conversation about it, kei te pai.
Where I disagree is that the idea that there was no good reason to refuse the requests. I can tell you how tedious it gets in gender conversations to have to educate people on gender issues when there is a large degree of denial and antagonism in those convos. People can ask, that's fine, but having a go at someone for not answering under those conditions misses the broader context.
Yes, it might be good for this community to have Māori media resources made more available. I just think the onus is on Pākehā to do that, not Māori. Marty already links plenty.
Thank you for responding and clarifying.
Yes, I did see and read the RNZ piece you posted but is was dated the day before and I wondered if there were other sources and/or possibly updates available.
What got my nose slightly out of joint was the way the refusals were made. Yes, we had a conversation and a mutual understanding and I fully respect Marty or any commenter’s right to not oblige. However, his opinion was about other sources being better. We were never able to judge this for ourselves because no links were provided. It is common practice here on this site that when one alleges a fact they should back that up with a link at least when asked. For example, site X is shite but site Y is great is an opinion on their relative merits and quality but there is no denying the fact that they both exist and can be linked to. I hope this makes some kind of sense.
You obviously don’t work in education 😉
It is relatively easy to educate the ones who are keen; it is next to impossible to educate the ones who don’t want it. One of the most rewarding experiences in education is not when a keen student ‘gets it’ but when an unmotivated one starts to open up and wants to learn and learn more.
I must be tired but I didn’t follow this line of reasoning at all.
I think that some commenters sometimes let their personal emotion get involved and their dislike of me and my opinions colours their responses. I get hurt but move on because I have a bigger agenda. Today's example was a pretty idiotic one imo but whatever… can't learn some people no matter how much you try to.
edit – incog – it’s not my job to do your work – what a cheek pushing those rude questions at me. Not impressed tbh
The specific issue is Duncan Garners source for this particular story, not the broader issues of the Maori media.
And on this specific issue I suspect Duncan is very well informed, either directly from the Tainui leadership or from senior MP’s (probably from NZF) who know how the negotiations are going.
you seem to love to state the obvious as if it is a revelation
you may think a deal is done because duncan says he knows – I think everything about that is tainted and untrustworthy.
So why do you think the information/him is “tainted and untrustworthy.”
As I said in my initial comment, just because you don’t like him doesn’t make him wrong.
In any event he is much more deeply connected into Maori leadership, both traditional and political, than you seem to appreciate.
Whether his source is speaking true or not, Garner is plainly shitstirring. What possible public good is there to be had from this leak? Why not let the people involved sort this out without the pressure from a NZ public that is still largely ignorant of Māoridom?
I look at who is saying what and who isn't. I look at their previous comment/statement/knowledge/understanding of the issues similar and the same. I then account for or discount their narrative accordingly. Based on this approach I discount most of what garner says. Is that okay with you?
garner looks to be stirring shit as he hasn’t provided a single source as back up to his claims. Wayne obviously thinks powerful men in media MUST be better informed without having to prove it.
The problem is your alternative is even weaker as all we have is your claim of negation of garners source, who ever that may be.
my friend down in Hamilton claims garner is correct and he is unusually close to these things
I dont rate garner but it seems an insane thing to do to fabricate a whole the deal is done story.
I would say if it's not true hes being played by others ,which given hes a bit of a thicko is plausible or there is some truth in it .
I've got this far through the thread, and marty mars I saw your comment that "lol – there are many better sources – try opening your mind a bit sheesh" – and when asked what they were you see to have evaded the issue. I don't generally trust Garner, but I saw his interview with Finlayson who had ideas about Tainui solving it all without government involvement, and now it is of Garner's idea and story so he is pushing it. I haven't generally been following this issue though, so, marty mars, can you post a few of those "many better sources"?
Yes, Pania Newton can take a bow. A future leader in the making.
Garner's picked up a scent and running with it so he can boast about being the first to reveal it.
And I'm not trying to be nasty… that's Garner's MO.
ISTR Garner waving a letter a few years ago, adamant that Shearer had less than two weeks in the job – a few months before the actual departure. And Espiner was much more accurate with his own prediction.
I barely rate Garner on political affairs, let alone Māori issues. He's more of a cold-reading psychic than a reporter – taking a reasonably predictable proposition and saying it with confidence. Or a pump 'n' dump trader, knowing that himself stating something will happen makes people begin to plan as if that's what will happen, increasing the chances he'll be vaguely "correct".
He's a right wing reactionary and his so-called analysis of current events are invariably over-simplistic. Add to that the shock jock culture of mediaworks and his views are to be taken with a grain of salt. Occasionally I think he does get it right but imo in the majority of cases he’s wrong.
but as you say McFlock:
So it's OK for Tainui to develop the land, but not Fletchers? What am I missing here?
Reminds me of when Tainui and local iwi vehemently objected to Watercare placing biosolids on nearby Puketutu Island on the basis that the island was sacred. The objections disappeared when Watercare offered to pay iwi an undisclosed $/cubic meter for the dumping.
Newton is not the person to decide, she holds no position with Kawerau a maki and the end decision is for the iwi as a whole .
She can finally move to Rotorua with her boyfriend to work in his fathers law firm that was her original plan
What a shame some people will no longer have a distant cause
lol yeah yeah we know your lines to slur her instead of argue against her. Shows how weak and useless your mana is lol – keep it up homer and make even more of a complete fool of yourself – here's another target for you
Whinia Cooper had a long record of service to her own people and the maori community at large before the 1975 Hikoi.
Its laughable that you compare Dame Whinia with someone after her university studies went to work for her boyfriends daddys law firm.
Whinia returned to her Te Rarawa people after her schooling in Greenmeadows
ouch – I'm feeling a bit sorry for the sorrow you're attracting but then again who cares – you will reap what you have sown dupe.
your jaundiced eye is no measure of how people are perceived within Māoridom – but it is a measure of how scared you are – very eh, lol, loving it
"and the end decision is for the iwi as a whole ."
Funny, don't you mean to say "and the end decision is for the head of the iwi", because from day one you've attempted to shut down anyone disagreeing with him.
You are confusing the chair and spokesman of the Marae, who spoke for the decision made previously by the iwi.
Thats how maori iwi work, surely you should know they work collectively…but clearly you dont. Im not maori but I hear about iwi meetings from those that are.
Im not shutting down anyone, just referring the previous agreements with Fletchers made by the iwi, also the full and final settlement of their land claims made by the iwi.
For your phony reality stick to the TV shows
A chance to learn
https://e-tangata.co.nz/history/treaty-negotiators-not-a-job-for-wimps/
"For many of the negotiators and those they represent, the gains have little to do with financial and commercial redress. Because, compared to the losses suffered by Māori, there’s stuff-all that can be clawed back from the Crown. It’s about the rebuilding of a tribe, restoration of mana, reclamation of lost stories, putting atrocities and wrongs on record. It’s about the return home of iwi members, the pride in a new generation, embedding the tribe’s role in decision making throughout their district and ensuring a stronger sense of place. It’s about both legacy and potential.
““One of the dangers of the whole settlement process,” says Michael Cullen, “is that it divides hapū from hapū, it divides iwi from iwi. Because, of course, traditional boundaries weren’t hard-and-fast lines on the map, like English counties.”
Its apparent some here , like Marty and Maui, are much more like the human headline Garner than they want to admit- cliches, empty rhetoric , buzz words
"Let’s be clear. The whole exercise is painful enough for Māori, but when the process and outcome are a mystery to most New Zealanders, the scene is set for misinterpretation, misunderstanding, and misinformation. Cue the wilfully ignorant and downright racist, dying to rark things up."
hmmmm
So it was racism for the iwi alongside Fletchers to call in police to remove SOUL from the land?
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1907/S00265/kaumatua-kuia-call-for-protestors-to-leave-ihumatao.htm
Every iwi , I could imagine, have whanau or hapu who disagaree with decisions made collectively by the iwi as a whole?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12259969
“Taua claims that "Te Kawerau ā Maki are mana whenua of Ihumātao". His fellow trustees take a more nuanced stance, and say "they admit that Te Kawerau ā Maki have claimed mana whenua status…..but [it is] just one group of a number of who are mana whenua of Ihumātao".
"Notably, Pania Newton and her five cousins – who founded protest group SOUL (Save Our Unique Landscape) and whakapapa to Ihumātao – have always maintained they are not affiliated with Te Kawerau ā Maki."
Which is what I believe too , they arent TKAM, but seem to constructed their mana whenua to suit them. Interesting.
Socialist fan-bois who jump in on a cause arent expected to provide answers , but do they love getting in the way. Ive seen photos of them ( like John McCaffery- Irish descent) lined up outside the Council hearing room , with only Pania and one other iwi member.
sorry your rant was wasted – in more ways than one I might add – I quoted from the article you linked to dimbob – lol you are floundering now
lol "constructed their mana whenua to suit them."
Dude, the protesting group belong to the marae located on the land!
Belong ?
The iwi is Kawerau a Maki and Newton and her cousins dont have an affiliation.
Mana whenua means authority of the iwi over the land- and even water- if they are not iwi there is another word for Newton and those cousins.
A friend told me there is a maori word for that , Ive forgotten but in English is called 'outsider'.
Ihumatao is the rohe of Kawerau a Maki, there is no other group to consider in the current circumstances.
I think the word you are looking for is tauiwi. I got taught that it simply means people who aren't our iwi.
How do you think mana whenua is established? Then, why do you think that TKAM are the only iwi who derive their mana from that land?
My understanding is that there are several iwi with connections to Ihumātao. Also, that Pania Newton has whakapapa to TKAM.
Mod note for you at 5.28pm
So Duncan "Waah waah, this country's too full of icky icky brown people and I hate it!" Garner is trying to reinvent himself as an authority on Maori issues, is he?
He can just get in the sea and swim back to Pomgolia.
Nice comment.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10635964&pnum=0
I didn't know that. I wonder if he was as reactionary back then.
Poor Dunks. He must have been devastated when Guyon chose Emma over him. After ALL he'd done for him. There's bloody gratitude for ya
Comment of the day!
Not bad because you had stiff opposition.
Oh, really.
https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/news-and-communications/latest-news/news/council-upholds-complaint-against-duncan-garner-immigration-article
Still doesn't explain why we need to hear from any more white racists – after all, there isn't exactly a shortage of them.
Just like Duncan Garner, it seems that nuance is not your strong point.
Still doesn’t explain why Mr Garner must be wrong on anything Māori. Is he allowed to express an opinion on anything Māori?
I think its time for a big shout out to the older white men of New Zealand. This group has, over the last 130 years or more, led NZ to its liberal and progressive place in the world today, with such things as female suffrage (and male suffrage 14 years earlier), anti-nuclear middle finger to the US, the creation of a comprehensive welfare state in the 1930s and the like.
Similarly in our local Council, the older white men are pretty much all liberal and progressive types, of left persuasion. I suspect this is repeated across many Councils. It reflects the progressive and liberal nature of the older white men in our wider community.
They are certainly less conservative than many most other identity groups in NZ e.g. Pacifika who are very conservative, Maori, most older women. And they are certainly less conservative than most other males across the planet e.g. Arabia, US.
This is all good and I thank them for this contribution to our society today.
Especially for the male suffrage provided 140 years ago this year. Cause for celebration. Is there any celebration planned?
Yeah
Having a bit of a giggle here, an old white man who resigned from council is now deciding to standing again because there are women standing in his ward this election.
But I'm guessing/hoping he is not the type of old white man you are celebrating in your post VTO.
Where's the celebration happening? I did a google but came up empty.
I heard a barbie was planned – the march was a fizzer cos the rugger replay was on – some action in the malls today with small tables and leaflets I think.
lol – we stuffed the world up now please worship us – yeah nah – tidy up your mess first
lol yeah nah
check it out
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/115063539/australian-politician-pauline-hanson-asks-for-antiwhite-racism-examples-gets-trolled
Pauline Hanson, huh?
https://www.mamamia.com.au/pauline-hanson-uluru-2/
classic – her and alan jones are the worst of people
Lmao!!! The rock has spoken….nature at it's finest 🙂 Laterz pauline.
TBH this white girl loves men…. but yeah.. nah… did someone say bbq? Lmao !!!
“– we stuffed the world up now please worship us – ”
Enver Hoxha was only 36 when he became prime minister of Albania , he became first Secretary of the Communist party a few years earlier, was that the young dynamic leader you are thinking of, as he was so good at his job he remained in total control till he died at 77.
Or is it Bernie Sanders , now 77, and his great accomplishments during his time in office ?
I know you can cut and paste from the internet dukey so what?
Where do you get your ideas? The
cornflakemuesli box?seriously, and it is a theme for me today it seems, I don't get your point.
What has bernie got to do with anything or the other guy? me struggling to comprehend today sorry
I was giving an example of young leaders and old … and what they did or didnt do , to inspire you..both were socialists might be a clue
I am a socialist, so thanks.
Things have to change – I agree 'young' and 'old' are very poor proxies for what we are trying to say. Chronological age is weird and messed up. Yet the truth is we need other voices, different thinking and values to create the world we're moving into imo.
If only Bernie was the status quo…. imagine 🤟
Well Bernies a millionaire now , so the system is working for him. His household income including his wife is almost $300,000 pa. For many years. That puts him in the 1%
His financial disclosure statements show they have stakes in 36 mutual funds and other investments
They own 3 houses.
Elizabeth Warren is worth $8 mill, but then again shes not as 'socialist' as Bernie so thats OK.
Cinny knock those stars away from your eyes .
The real value is how people treat others, including the environment, whether one owns 3 houses or has money in the bank. JS
What was your point again, I think I might have missed it. 💭
Bernie was the 'status quo' …LOL
Have you thought bout getting into politics?
You could appeal to the disenfranchised older white male vote.
You speak for about 1% of the vote . Good luck with that in changing anything
dukeofurl, todays troll with bad statistics.
"You speak for about 1% of the vote"
mauī spoke for themselves, or is your racism so ingrained dukeofurl that you can't even grip that basic idea? Because if you missed it – your paternalist racist rants are getting tired, boring, and old.
That me just speaking for myself, not any % of the public, just me.
It was his claim of being a socialist and the roughly 1% vote they get( he talked about election politics)
Your point is what ? Apart from imitating Garner with buzz words and empty rhetoric
What you going to call me a cultural marxist next….
… do you live on Planet Key, vto? I suspect there will be a knees up at the golf club if you really want to celebrate… Mind you empty your bladder before you attend though, apparently there are no toilets on Planet Key.
yeah thanks Molly for more smart-arse offensive comments about older men, great.
You don't want to celebrate men getting the vote in 1870? It was after all monumental and the first time ever. It also paved the way for women getting the vote only 14 years later. That was celebrated. Why not men?
btw, fuck Planet Key, you shouldnt assume so much. You should also read the bit about older men and their long-established liberal and progressive credentials.
disappointing Molly, but at least you've revealed your prejudices.
I didn't make any " smart-arse offensive comments about older men". I responded to your familiar baiting with light hearted levity about one of our recent prominent older white men, who was held up for celebration.
I see many celebrations of achievement happening all the time, and often the people lauded are "older white men". So, I was just asking you to consider whether you are in fact tending to see a bias against that demographic, that is non-existent.
My long-term partner is – as we communicate – becoming an even older white male. My sons will be whitish older men. I celebrate them every day.
“You don’t want to celebrate men getting the vote in 1870?” Meh. Not so much. That consolidation of political power in this country led to more effecient land confiscations and consolidations, and the 1870 vote was for property owners. Male suffrage – for Pakeha – did not really come in until 1879. I will celebrate the return of voting rights to prisoners. The removal of residential voting rights, which would bring us in line with most of the world. And the return of overseas votes without the need to visit the country within the last three years for ex-pat overseas residents that retain their citizenship.
I celebrate fairness.
Fan inundated with excrement
"US President Donald Trump says he has "hereby ordered" American companies to leave China, after Beijing announced plans to slap new tariffs on US goods."
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/397383/us-firms-hereby-ordered-to-quit-china-trump
Trump shortening the US…..profits will be made.
anyways is that not what he was voted in for? To destroy it all. 🙂
The idea that King Con is indeed deliberately manipulating markets for personal gain deserves at least some consideration, not outright dismissal as a weird conspiracy theory. He is known to have successfully done it before in the 80s, before others got wise to him and he apparently lost it all again.
https://www.salon.com/2019/08/13/donald-trump-is-driving-america-off-an-economic-cliff-but-is-it-deliberate/
But I'm not yet sure I'm ready to totally buy into it. Seems to me the evidence still points much more towards the Fraud from Fifth Avenue playing pigeon chess, not 23-dimensional chess. Y'know, where it flaps in squawking loudly, knocks over all the pieces, shits all over the board, struts around like it's won, then flaps out again still squawking.
The speculation has been going on for a while now and frankly yes, he is making money, his children are making money and everyone else around him is making money. And thus the economy is booming. the plebs?
I don't think its a CT. Who profits. Its not even chess, its simply a mafia/organised crime tactic of pay me to protect you from me, cause it would be sad if something something were to happen to your nice business, your nice house, your nice children your nice country your nice exports ………….
wouldnt put it past him at all….but whatever the motivation(s) it dosnt change the impact on the rest of us, not to mention the potential for it to transition from a trade/currency war to yet another of the shooting variety
Well, the petulance he has shown over being denied the opportunity to buy Greenland is a case in point. He claims he wanted to buy it for America but that's a load of rot. There are a lot of valuable minerals in them thar snowy mountains and glaciers and he wants to get his grubby little hands on them.
theres no doubt he spits the dummy when thwarted or critcised…which makes him all the more dangerous
Someone else's grubby hands. Chump is an obedient little boy.
Prick's all blut und bloden and reckons Greenland is just like Norway.
While President Trump seemed to pull his interest in purchasing Greenland out of thin air this week, he’s actually been privately talking about buying the semi-autonomous Danish region for more than a year, according to the New York Times.
In fact, last year the President even joked about trading Puerto Rico — the U.S. territory he’s treated with contempt ever since it was ravaged by Hurricane Maria — for Greenland, according to a former administration official who spoke to the Times.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-greenland-puerto-rico
Nice – I think every Anzac day trees could be planted for the fallen. On each holiday it could be an excuse to plant some trees – christmas, new year, easter, whatever – just another reason to offer commemoration by planting life.
Nice.
And good work on the whole Garner thread, above.
Sad day when people here can't think of at least a couple of Māori news sources off the top of their head.
not good this – wrong on so many levels – I have been very impressed with Nanaia Mahuta over recent weeks – great mana
There is no such thing as Rangihou people. Thats the name given to the farm on that spot established by Samuel Marsden the anglican missionary , around 1815, named after a bay in the Bay of Islands.
The City of Parramatta give a good background of the location on their website.
Highly unlikely Te ruki Kawiti a ngapuhi chief was involved, and he certainly wasnt a "king"
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/people/te-ruki-kawiti
Duke you are FOS when did u become an expert on Maori History and Anthropology, climb back in your hole you RWNJ !!!!
Maori dont have customary land rights in Australia.
Its high school stuff to know that Parramatta – where this park is-was founded as a settlement the same year as Sydney in 1788, and any maori who may have settled there around 1810 or so were part of the British colonisation. Hint -they even called it the Colony of NSW
That makes them colonisers not an indigenous people.
My heart fell when I saw this being reported. My primary instinct, followed by rational justification is that no such ownership claim should take place in a country that has systematically stolen land from the indigenous people.
The only presence that others should have in any such claim, is as support for indigenous people when they do so.
(This stance also translates into unease at the establishment of maraes overseas. To me, maraes are inextricably linked to whenua, and we have no claim to overseas locations, and should not dispossess others of their own land even in that small way.)
+ 1 yes I agree
I felt similarly when reading about this.
(not sure about marae. Wouldn’t it be like saying that Muslims from other countries shouldn't put their mosques here? People need a place to connect collectively even where they are living in another land. Tricky though, because I hear what you are saying about the inherent connection to whenua).
For me, marae are inextricably linked to whenua. Both geographically and in Te Ao Maori, spiritually. As a people who understand land dispossession, the thought of laying that spiritual claim to land in another country just seems discordant.
Churches, including are a place of worship for beliefs that transcend countries. They are a place of gathering, which can take place wherever the church can be built. It is not usually on a sacred site or area of significance, the consecration takes place after the decision to build is made.
Small difference perhaps, but a significant one.
How do you see pan-iwi urban marae?
“How do you see pan-iwi urban marae?”
in Aotearoa?
I often visited Manurewa marae, which AFAIK is a pan-iwi urban marae. It is in Aotearoa, so the connection to land is still there, and is spoken of, in terms of local iwi. It is not another indigenous peoples ancestral land, so I can see how with the creation of urban marae these old connections are rediscovered and strengthened.
that makes sense, although I would say that European churches do have a history of being land based and sites being chosen because of the land. Even here in NZ I think this has been true sometimes, looking at some of the places churches have been put. Pākehā are a long way culturally from belonging to the land, but I don't think it's entirely severed. Also acknowledging the role of colonisation in that history.
Churches in Europe did have that connection, and rightly so in their own lands. (Often though, they seemed to supplant the local peoples sacred places – a usurpation of existing beliefs with organised religion, meted out in wood and stone. )
So much of Te Ao Maori is linked to whenua. The aspects of kinship and kaitiakitanga are intertwined with the protection of natural resources and awareness of both ancestral links and future descendants need to access those resources. For me, this gives a worldview that is both necessary and heartening. It is less about the geographical space that a marae takes up, but the centre it provides for looking after local people and places.
One of the ways that Pākehā can get over our colonising ways is to learn how to belong to the land again. I see a role for churches or similar in that. While I still have connections back to where my people came from, they're not so strong as to override the connections I experience where I live now. At some point Pākehā will have to come to grips with this, and that includes centering that provides for looking after local people and places. Whether that is by being assimilated into Māoridom, or by living and working alongside in partnership I don't know, but I'm not sure I automatically exclude the latter (and hence the necessity of buildings being deeply connected with place, culture, spirituality).
A strong aspect of Māoridom that I think is neglected, is the allowance of space and growth of the 'other' within Aotearoa, and the sharing of connectedness to land. I value the aspects of the RMA that encourage and facilitate engagement with local iwi, even while I despair at some of the implementations and dialogue around it.
There have been some very successful iwi partnerships with local authorities and communities in regards to conservation and environment. The Waikato River management ; is a good example of everyone being connected in a major undertaking, and understanding being a central result.
And I'm speaking as an individual, rather than for Māori. I don't even have a clue about how overseas marae are regarded amongst others, it's a personal view that doesn't really have much impact one way or another. I would think the only time it would come up is in discussions like this. Alternatively, if I was asked to contribute or support the establishment of an overseas marae, I would decline and explain why. Hopefully, the result would be a discussion of why I am misguided or misinformed, or a new perspective being introduce to the person looking for contributions. More likely, a defensive reaction, but I live in eternal hope.
Khan Sheikhoun and the northern Hama countryside liberated.
"Liberated" implies liberty, and is therefore a wildly inappropriate term in this case.
You mean its not 'liberty' in the same way Iraq is after the US occupation, where they can vote and ……something
Khan Sheikhoun is around 25 km from Mhardeh
I mean that the term "liberate" indicates the bestowal or restoration of liberty, neither of which applies to this event.
Your ability to take know term to describing a military event, and then twisting it support the islamic state and it backers is truly surprising.
So now you're defending the head choppers Psycho Milt?
Not the only Maori area with dirt floors, no running water etc. Plenty about NZ if you stop claiming "there is no poverty in NZ" and actually look around. Good to see it getting coverage – never thought I'd see the day.
https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2019/08/horeke-northland-housing-crisis/
Hey…wouldn't it be great if EVERYONE in NZ could have more than dirt for flooring? There's an idea.
Skybot F-850 flys to ISS.
Jacinda Ardern attends the Islamic Women's Council of NZ annual conference on Saturday.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/115254276/jacinda-ardern-promises-to-look-into-more-opportunities-for-muslim-women
Brazil – a corrupt/inept government, elected of the back of a corrupt court case, and totally failing to deal with anything.
Oh and did you know massive protest against said corrupt/inept government are daily. No. MMmmmmm
https://fair.org/home/media-blackout-on-brazils-anti-bolsonaro-protests/
But. "Venezuela".
*crickets*
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In its newly-released report, AGPS documented the death of 17 Palestinian refugees under torture in Syria-s state-run dungeons during the first half of 2019.
In most of the cases, the victims’ families received the death reports following years of enforced disappearance.
AGPS kept record of the secret detention of 1,759 Palestinian refugees in Syrian government prisons.
http://www.actionpal.org.uk/en/post/9013/
Interesting facts – I'm pretty impressed by Taylor and Fletchers on this. And I can imagine a dream scenario with multiple benefits across a wide arc of society – wistful thinking for sure
Ihumātao… Te Waiata!
A great interview – honest, and nuanced and I learned a lot.
When is our public free to air channel mcoming to air?
Labour promised us a voice too remember?i
When is our public free to air channel mcoming to air?
Labour promised us a voice too remember?i
heh
https://twitter.com/CopernicusEMS/status/1164985440660787201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1164985440660787201&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F1127131166
from here https://twitter.com/CopernicusEMS
this is quite an interesting twitter account to help visualise the current fires going on a little bit elsewhere.
Less fires now than last week?
nope read is new fires to add to the orange one.
i read a number of 78.000 + fires.
we need to change our conversation on what can be done, to what must be done.
Frankly i would assume this to be the very first of the events that will lead to the destruction of our society as we know it now. No one even talks about it, the pollution that comes with it, etc.
Not even sure if you can extinguish these fires anymore either, everyone who has an interest will simply just light another one. the green light has been given, and those that profit have decided to take matters in hand. Pretty much the planet is fucked, now its just a question about admitting it.
Also just for fun, have a look at the fires in Alaska. I have a friend who lives there, Salmon are cooked in the rivers and ocean. Dead wales have been washing up all summer there. She is just desperate and heartbroken. So are my friends in Bresil.
I don't get it. How can the last 24 hours one be added on? Wouldn't the previous ones show if they were still burning?
Anyway, I agree with this,
"we need to change our conversation on what can be done, to what must be done."
What are you thinking?
people are intentionally lightening fires. It is the regular fire season, so farmers are burning plant debris etc, miners burning up smaller areas of forrests, and such. Essentially if you look again in 24 hours you will see more fires added to it. Ad to that lack of rain – again compounded by the fact that the forest is being decimated add to that no will to actually combat the fires and you have a bit of an issue.
As i said the number that i read about all the ongoing fires in that forest across a few countries not just bresil is 78.000 + . that number alone is staggering and hard to wrap ones mind around.
what must be done? If i were a benevolent dictator i would demand / decree / order (to use the oranges words)
a. all public transport free of charge
b. no more then one vehicle per household ( you better have a good reason wanting more then one and one has to apply for it)
c. increase food product locally and force supermarkets to carry that local food
d. incentives, force farmers to reduce herd sizes, plant natives on steep hills, plant in rivers, stop irrigation where it never made sense to begin with.
e. plant. Plant as much as we can.
f. no more cutting down of trees for parkings/garages etc
g. car free sundays (it was fun being with a bicycle on the motorway in the seventies 🙂 )
high investment in alternative energy, water turbines, wind mills, solar cells
above all honesty to the populace, that really we shat the bed and if we want to continue to sleep in it we must clean the sheets, the matraze, the frames, the duvet, pillows and the bedroom.
However nothing will happen because growth, profits, and gutless polititians, pundits, philosphers, and last but least a populace that can't even conceive of not being entertained.
And for what its worth, i don't have a car. I sold the last toy to insulate my small 55 sqm house, i plant trees, i forage, i get my food locally produced, i don't have mobile phone, my computer is quite old, so is my furniture and yet i seem to miss nothing and still have a good quality of life. I live in a place where going about on foot and on bike is feasable, i have a garden that will feed me- drought and super hot summer permitting. and any protein that i need is provided by the rescue chickens that my relatives haves – they lay an incredible amount of eggs all 63 of the chucks. Non of the chucks ever end up as roast, they live to a long life and are happy sleeping in trees. Well some of them..
We need to collectively stop participating in this madness.
Last but least, we must stop electing people in the hope that they burn down the system expecting them to produce a better one. And when they gay bash, women bash, migrant bash, other bash but promote the burning of the land that you live on one should ask if they really have OUR best interest at heart or their own. Cause frankly the guy in bresil does not give a fuck, he knows that chances are he will survive longer then we do.
Great ideas Sabine – feeding the 'growth monster' has made the world sick.
And yet, "Fears about slowing growth are dominating." Madness!
https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/the-growth-monster-is-swallowing-trade-worries-20190814
But HRC would be worse.
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The Trump administration took its hardest line yet to legalize anti-gay discrimination on Friday when it asked the Supreme Court to declare that federal law allows private companies to fire workers based only on their sexual orientation.
An amicus brief filed by the Justice Department weighed in on two cases involving gay workers and what is meant by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which bans discrimination "because of sex.” The administration argued courts nationwide should stop reading the civil rights law to protect gay, lesbian, and bisexual workers from bias because it was not originally intended to do so.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/trump-scotus-gay-workers
Do many people still believe that? (re HRC)
but her emails!
Site works well on the Hipster version of OpenIndiania (a public version of Solaris Unix) using Firefox.
There was some kind of issue when I was first looking at the page and the reply ‘button’ didn’t show up. Worked fine on a refresh.
Idle check whilst updating a virtual machine (incredibly slow upgrade mechanism). The operating system works fine in a vmware workstation 15 virtual machine.
Setting this VM up as a reference cross-compile test.
Nice fonts for something that is about 10 years since its last major upgrade.