Open mike 29/03/2011

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  1. Jenny 1

    .
    After effectively signing away all right for iwi to take a legal challenge against exploitation of the Seabed and Foreshore, Tariana Turia makes it clear;

    If iwi still continue to oppose deep sea oil drilling, or sand mining of the Seabed and Foreshore

    “That’s their business”

    Tariana Turia

    This is amazing stuff.

    [audio src="http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/ckpt/ckpt-20110328-1750-Waatea_News_for_28_March_2011-048.mp3" /]

    On Sunday a ceremony was held on Auckland’s Princes Wharf to farewell the combined Greenpeace and Te Whanua a Apanui protest flotilla setting sail for the East Coast, site of proposed deep sea oil prospecting.
    The flotilla plans to do all it can to stop giant Brazilian oil company Petrobras from exploring for deep sea oil deposits off the East Coast of the North Island.

    Speakers for Greenpeace and Te Whanau a Apanui all mentioned that this desperate search for oil in deep sea waters is at the very limits of drilling technology and is not worth the risk. If anything goes wrong New Zealand doesn’t have the resources and vessels to do anything about it speakers claimed.

    Aboard this flotilla, Peter Williams QC also a veteran of the Moruroa anti-nuclear protest flotilla. Williams said the two issues are linked. He said as well as making New Zealand nuclear free, we need to make New Zealand deep sea oil drilling free. He pointed out that it took 60 ships and billions of dollars, and many months to stem flow of oil from the Gulf of Mexico deep water drill blow out. Which williams pointed out was an exploratory well, similar to what is likely for the East Coast.

    Where would New Zealand get 60 ships? We just couldn’t do it, Williams said.

    The only Member of Parliament at the ceremony to farewell the flotilla was independent MP for Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira.

    Harawira said “The flotilla is a continuation of the Seabed and Foreshore protest”.

    This “Is the bit that the Maori Party has willingly signed off on.” he said. “The government can go and mine anywhere and drill anywhere and they don’t have to ask Maori for nothing.”

    Responding to Harawira’s reported comments, Maori Party Co-leader Tariana Turia went on National Radio the next day. On the subject of iwi who don’t want oil exploration or sand mining. “That’s their business” she said.

    “We’ve been very clear about that. We are not in parliament to speak for hapu and iwi. That’s what they have chosen to do and that’s their right.” Tariana Turia.

    Though she didn’t name them, Turia claimed, that she was aware of other iwi who support mining and oil drilling because they see potential to make money from it.

    • Draco T Bastard 1.1

      “The government can go and mine anywhere and drill anywhere and they don’t have to ask Maori for nothing.”

      That seems reasonable. We shouldn’t have to ask a specific race what we can do with our resources.

      • prism 1.1.1

        WTF Draco TB – We have only been working on for decades now, the recognition and recompense to Maori as tangata whenua. And giving recognition that they are active in trying to protect their land and seascape from harmful exploitation. Oh I get it you’re being ironic, even sarcastic.

        The idea that Tariana Turia is motivated more by deep anger at Labour than a cogent plan for Maori values and betterment may be right.

      • travellerev 1.1.2

        Maori foreshore and seabed rights was another good safety barrier against the destruction of our underwater ecosystems you dimwit. One we all needed. Now it is just about money profit and big business and Maori and the rest of us have been effectively sidelined.

        In the Suriname language they call this craboe politics.
        Put a couple of crabs in a bucket and when one reaches the rim the others will pull him down and in the end they all die in the hotpot. That’s you and me and Maori. You take away their right to assert their indigenous rights you take it away from all of us. Well done New Zealand. Lets dig up those $ 2300 billion worth of black sands and fuck the fishery and the Hector dolphins who needs them anyway.

        Reasonable my ass.

        • Draco T Bastard 1.1.2.1

          I didn’t say that the environment shouldn’t be protected.

        • Colonial Viper 1.1.2.2

          Lets dig up those $ 2300 billion worth of black sands

          Hate to break up the party but pretty soon no one is going to be able to afford the energy to mine and transport the ironsand, let alone smelt it.

      • Vicky32 1.1.3

        Exactly, DTB, I agree!
        Deb

  2. millsy 2

    Iwi want all of Whakatane’s state housing

    …and at a quarter of their value too. But that doesnt really concern me.

    What conserns me is that once this iwi elite get a hold of these state houses, they will either a) start kicking current tenants (or non-Maori tenants) out of thier houses, or b) raising rent to unaffordable levels. and most probably selling them off at a profit.

    I notice that another group quoted in this article have more or less implied that rents will increase once state housing is delivered into their possession.

    I belive that that handing over state housing to a charity is just the same as handing them over to a private specualtive landlord.

    • chris73 2.1

      Second time in less then a week I’ve agreed with you (good to see you moving to the right)

      • Marty G 2.1.1

        isn’t it very leftwing to believe that it’s the state’s place to provide welfare and rightwing to want to hand that role over to private charity?

        indeed, privatisation of social assistance is a major theme of the UK Conservatives’ ‘Big Society’ and was a theme of the Howard government. Whanua Ora is a small step in that direction here.

        Maybe you’re moving to the Left, chris73 😉

  3. rd 3

    >>PM tells schools to act against the bullies
    >>”I’m not going to sit back and let that happen without at least trying to improve the environment”

    A good place to set an example would be parliament.

    >>>Minister Anne Tolley to write to all boards to remind them of what their responsibilities were and to convene a meeting of experts to see if New Zealand schools had best practice in place to counter bullying.

    That really worked with National Standards,
    and does the statement mean that each board has to convene a panel of experts?

    • Political correctness gone mad I tell you, political correctness gone mad … grumble grumble … we never had this sort of thing when I was young and look how I turned out …

    • Marty G 3.2

      I love the juxtaposition from Key:

      ‘i care about this issue and i’m going to do everything i can’

      ‘the minister is writing to schools reminding them of the status quo and assembling a talk fest’

      • Lanthanide 3.2.1

        ‘i care about this issue and i’m going to do everything i can’

        Yeah, they don’t need extra funding. It’s just about mind-set and the will to actually do something.

        A person wrote in to Morning Report this morning, saying that their son and other children at a decile 10 school were bullied, involving knives, stragulation and being stalked on the way home. The long protracted process set out by the ministry of education had to be completed (stand-downs, suspensions, extra teachers to personally monitor the bully) before he could finally be removed from the class. The ministry of education processes are reactive rather than proactive, and put the right to education of the bully ahead of the rights of their victims to education and a safe environment.

        From what went on at my school (very little bullying in general, but some troublesome students) I would have to say that this really does seem to be the heart of the issue. Teachers and schools are being stopped from taking appropriate responses by the ministry.

        • ianmac 3.2.1.1

          Perhaps Mr Key will create a fast track process so that if your kid gets hit or teased by a “bully”, then the school can throw the bully out that day, permanently. (Satisfies the Lynch mentality.) Wonder where all the bullies would end up?
          After all a teacher at an exclusive school in Christchurch described to me the screening for any troublemakers before enrollment, and at the first whiff of trouble the contract would be invoked and the child out. Compliance.
          Mind you there are many troubled kids who are being helped hence the rules in place in State Schools which are there to protect the bullies and the bullied and the teachers and the BOT.

          • Deadly_NZ 3.2.1.1.1

            Well as a parent with a 15 year old who has been getting bullied over the last 2 weeks I have completely lost my sense of humour with that useless fucking witch who reckons she is in charge of education and the fuckwit that put her in that position. Yep Key and Tolley. Well I have an appointment at 8 10 am and if nothing is done at the school that my stepdaughter is in then I WILL pull her from the school and I will also call the newspapers( they hate the publicity) and I will call the police on the bullies ( that is if I can get one away from traffic duty) and if that dont work maybe i’ll start to make life hard for the board of trustees and if that dont work maybe i’ll try to sue the fuckin witch!!!!

      • Tigger 3.2.2

        National is adding to the bullying environment by legitimising inequality (financial and otherwise) not to mention racism, homophobia and sexism. Key, the best thing you can do for our children is fuck off.

        • M 3.2.2.1

          Agreed Tigger, especially in smaller centres where to come out as being gay or having some other disability is social death in the secondary school arena. My son tries to hide his ADHD as well as he can but sometimes the impulsivity shows and he gets himself into some right scrapes. Only last week I had to attend a meeting for my son and to say I was excoriating was putting it mildly considering the teasing from fellow pupils and some staff my kid has endured – I also said I couldn’t imagine what treatment would be meted out to a pupil who was openly gay, they’d be lucky to survive the lunch hour.

          Parents have to be on their guard with schools with regards to bullying because for many of them it’s just too hard but I’ve never had any problem holding their feet to the fire. If I found either of my kids were being bullies they know bad karma would rain on them from a great height with loss of privileges they enjoy. As a society we have become a little better in many ways concerning racism, homphobia and sexism but there’s still a long way to go but the new kid on the block is “moneyism” as in if a family is poor they are viewed differently. It pisses me off that people can’t live and let live with the qualifier that you don’t try to hurt others.

  4. Kaplan 4

    Rising prices chewing into discretionary spending

    New Zealand faces two-paced pressure on prices, with surging bills for fuel, utilities and food sucking further dollars away from discretionary spending.

    Discretionary spending?
    Why isn’t this story about those that have no discretionary spending?
    Nice try Hamish but I think your story looks at the wrong angle and Stuff have filed it in the wrong section.

  5. kriswgtn 5

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pike-river-mine-disaster/4595942/Just-5000-for-young-miners-mum

    This has really pissed me off.
    Everyone (wgtn) seems to have forgotten re Pike River

    Absolutely fucking disgusted to be a kiwi this morning
    bah fuk this country

    OZ here I come, along with BF

    • PeteG 5.1

      Pike River was tragic for those families involved – but that doesn’t make any difference to how ACC should work. ACC is not life insurance, and the rules cannot be changed for every apparently deserving case.

      The fact is that there will be more financial support for families of Pike River than there is for most families who have a member who dies accidentally.

    • vto 5.2

      Too true kriswgtn. Pike River and the mammoth negligence inflicted on the men, their families and the communities is drifting out of sight.

      Check this… Greymouth Star last Friday 25th reported

      “Rapahoe mining historian Peter Ewen, one of only 17 people to make a submission on the 2008 review of underground mining regulations, was stunned when the DOL refused his request for information to back his submission to the Pike River inquiry.

      The Dept advised that it would decide AFTER (emphasis mine) the release of the Royal Commission’s findings whether or not any further information woudl be released.

      Mr Ewem requested a copy of the departments formal authorisation documents to the PRC company in relation to the underground ventilation shaft ladder, electrical authorisation for the placement of the fan, and copies of visits and logged telephone calls between DOL inspectors and mine management.
      He also asked for information on visits and phone calls by DOL inspectors from April 2005 up to and including November 20.”

      In response the department spokesman said release would compromise the integrity of the inquiry and cause prejudice. The spokesman also said other agencies, including the police, were taking the same approach.

      Well, fuck me I thought I had heard it all in this world.

      As always, happy to be proved wrong but it seems to me that the Inquiry is compromised WITHOUT this information. The department has it arse about. The Inquiry loses credibility when relevant government departments wait until after the findings before releasing information relevant tp the inquiry.

      Something stinks. Everybody is just clamming up. I claimed right from the start there would be trouble over this. It is human greed and shortcuts which have caused this – it seems now both public and private individual human shortcomings.

      Maybe someone out there knows how and when and what information can be released in these situations but from the perspective out here in labour country it fucking stinks. No wonder there is little respect for govt. Or maybe they figure that an old man from Rapahoe (tiny coastal setlement north of Greymouth) has no capacity to take on the DOL and every effort should be made to hide their wrongdoings and avoid embarassment or worse.

      This is the same place that the Cave Creek tragedy occurred of course and for which nobody in giovernment took resonsiblility, despite government built timber landings being fixed with just 4 inch nails instead of bolts. Fuck govt.

      At this point now, refer to that post below with the words fuck and cunt scattered throughout..

    • KJT 5.3

      Pike river was bad, but there are many families who have close relatives who die or have seriously injuries at work. The effect on them is the same.

      As far as money goes the Pike River families and the unemployed due to the Christchurch earthquake are being treated better than people normally are in the same circumstances.

  6. joe90 6

    More news from Fukushima Dai-Ichi.

    Radiation levels that can prove fatal were detected outside reactor buildings at Japan’s Fukushima Dai-Ichi plant for the first time, complicating efforts to contain the worst disaster since Chernobyl in 1986.

    Water in an underground trench outside the No. 2 reactor had levels exceeding 1 sievert an hour, a spokesman for plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. told reporters in the capital yesterday. Exposure to that dose for 30 minutes would trigger nausea and four hours might lead to death within two months, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

  7. felix 7

    More retardedness from Darth McVicar, the author who hasn’t read his own book yet:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/lifestyle/4710053/In-the-name-of-justice

    But McVicar says the trust is proudly “apolitical”, adding “I’ve been asked by all three major political parties to stand for them at one time or another”.

    Three major political parties, Darth? Well that’d be National, Labour, and the Greens, right? I don’t believe for a moment that the Greens asked you to stand.

    What’s that Darth? You didn’t mean them?

    Oh, I see – you were including a much, much smaller party in the “three major political parties” ahead of the Greens.

    But you’re proudly apolitical. Yeah.

    • Draco T Bastard 7.1

      So proudly apolitical that they sponsored a criminal into a political party as well as helped that party then write some of their policies.

  8. Tigger 8

    National prepared to cut everything but the one utterly non-essential ‘service’ – namely tax cuts for the rich.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/4821122/Govt-to-axe-non-essential-services

    • Jim Nald 8.1

      Oh, and Double Dipton said:

      “there are far too many Government departments and duplication. He’s signalled more cuts in back office staff and moves to merge departments and cut spending.”

      http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=128445&fm=psp,tst

      Double Dipton will first apply the cut to himself. He said he has too many ‘homes’ and duplication. He’s signalled more cuts in his home-cleaning staff, expenses and claims, and moves to merge Karori with Dipton and cut his salary.

      Amen.

      • Draco T Bastard 8.1.1

        And isn’t Double Dipton one of the ones that freated that duplication in an effort to create “competition” within government services?

    • Deadly_NZ 8.2

      And have you noticed the absence of any comments page ??? . maybe they know that they can’t be a good NAT suckup paper when most of the population is calling for Key and Englishes heads on a pike…

    • millsy 8.3

      Two words: Oh and Fuck.

      This is not going to be a slash and burn.

      This is going to be napalm and white phosphorous.

  9. Pascal's bookie 9

    Found myself thinking about this classic tbogg post today:

    http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/02/25/your-mumia-sweatshirt-wont-get-you-into-heaven-anymore/

    Every year in Happy Gumdrop Fairy-Tale Land all of the sprites and elves and woodland creatures gather together to pick the Rainbow Sunshine Queen. Everyone is there: the Lollipop Guild, the Star-Twinkle Toddlers, the Sparkly Unicorns, the Cookie Baking Apple-cheeked Grandmothers, the Fluffy Bunny Bund, the Rumbly-Tumbly Pupperoos, the Snowflake Princesses, the Baby Duckies All-In-A-Row, the Laughing Babies, and the Dykes on Bikes. They have a big picnic with cupcakes and gumdrops and pudding pops, stopping only to cast their votes by throwing Magic Wishing Rocks into the Well of Laughter, Comity, and Good Intentions. Afterward they spend the rest of the night dancing and singing and waving glow sticks until dawn when they tumble sleepy-eyed into beds made of the purest and whitest goose down where they dream of angels and clouds of spun sugar.

    You don’t live there.

    Grow the fuck up.

  10. logie97 10

    Key’s directive on school bullying has about as much worth as Christine Rankin’s
    2 minutes silence for anti-child-violence-campaign.

    Every politician commenting on school issues speaks from their experience as a pupil/student at school. Never from a school management position (unless the politician is an ex educator) and the parents nod sagely at their every utterance. “In my day et cetera. (Makes you wonder why practitioners in the profession bother to get qualifications – the expert punters know best.)

    Never, in all these statements, is any responsibility for issues at school sheeted home to the 17.1/2 hours before the children enter the school gates. What say the elected boards insist that their charges are fit to enter the school and confront the families accordingly.

    Nah – the politicians wouldn’t get any mileage out of that,

    captcha – empty

    • Morrissey 10.1

      Rankin’s 2 minutes silence for anti-child-violence campaign“?!?!?!????!?

      I thought her organization was formed to advocate FOR the right to beat your children (if you’re Pākehā, that is.)

  11. M 11

    Japanese quake and tsunami got you spooked? Well for 200k to 20 million you can chill:

    http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/22/real_estate/doomsday_bunkers/index.htm?hpt=C2

    To have that much spare change rolling around, sigh.

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  12. Morrissey 12

    “Useful Idiot” Bryan Crump asleep at the wheel—again.
    National Radio, Tuesday 29 March 2011, 8.40 p.m.

    Three weeks ago, many National Radio listeners were shocked by host Bryan Crump’s credulity as a Fatah propagandist called Lana Shaheen cynically lied to him for twenty uninterrupted minutes about life in Gaza. In a virtuoso display of fatuousness, Crump swallowed everything, not even demurring when Shaheen recycled the U.S.-Israeli-Fatah black propaganda line that the Hamas government “seized power” by a “coup”. It seemed then that was as bad as it could possibly get. Surely?

    SURELY?

    If you hate seeing “wretchedness o’ercharged”, in the shape of a weak and ill-informed New Zealand journalist failing to do his job, you are advised to turn away now. The rest of you, who presumably give a damn about journalistic standards, should READ ON….

    Crump’s guest tonight from the Middle East is not Lana Shaheen. Alarmingly, however, it’s someone even worse—the extreme right-wing British-born Liat Collins, from the Jerusalem Post.

    Now, anyone who knows anything about Israel knows that there is only one respected, rigorous, liberal daily newspaper in Israel. That paper is Haaretz. But someone who knows little or nothing about Israel, or about Jerusalem, might be fooled into thinking that a newspaper called the Jerusalem Post was a reliable and authoritative source of information. In fact it’s not. The Jerusalem Post is about as respected as the Murdoch-owned Sun, or the Moonie-owned Washington Times. It’s about as authoritative as a Garth George Herald column or a 60-second Paul Holmes “daily comment” on NewstalkZB.

    Liat Collins is notorious as a True Believer, a fanatical defender and worshipper of the Israeli state. So we shouldn’t be surprised by her cynical distortion of the facts of life in Jerusalem, or her bilious tirade against the prospect of democracy in the neighboring Arab countries. What will have perplexed, even infuriated, many listeners was the inability of Bryan Crump to challenge even one of her statements, or to ask even one intelligent question.

    Crump, whose first statement in the interview was to announce that he knows “so little” about Jerusalem, was of course fair game for this doctrinal warrior…

    CRUMP: There can’t be many cities that I hear so much about, and yet I know so little. What’s it like?

    LIAT COLLINS: Ehhhhmmm, it’s, it’s, ehhhhhmmmm… it’s like, ehhhhmmmm, if New York is a state of mind, Jerusalem is a feeling.

    CRUMP: Jerusalem is famous for its hills. Are they bare? Or are they now covered in houses?

    LIAT COLLINS: Oh, they’re green. It’s very Mediterranean. There are olive trees everywhere.

    CRUMP: You left London and you came to Israel in 1982. Why?

    LIAT COLLINS: It’s the only place, really, that I feel comfortable as a Jew. It is the Jewish homeland. Ehhhhhmmm, that mightn’t be politically correct, but, ehhhhhmmmm, it’s the only place in the world where if someone calls you a Zionist, it’s a compliment!

    CRUMP: What’s it like in Jerusalem?

    LIAT COLLINS: Ohhhh, it’s, it’s, it’s, ohhhh, there’s noise, and commotion, and it’s a bit unruly. Israelis are very in-your-face. We don’t separate public from private!

    CRUMP: Is there a lot of segregation? I mean, with Jews, and Christians, and Arabs?

    LIAT COLLINS: Well, people do keep to themselves. Even amongst the Jews, there’s Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods.

    CRUMP: What we hear a lot of in the news from Jerusalem is VIOLENCE. Bomb attacks. Is that something you grow used to?

    LIAT COLLINS: There was a bomb attack last Wednesday. I remember there were bombings around the year 2000. It was just horrendous. It was like Russian Roulette. Ehmmmmm. It’s like an instinct. It’s THERE. You become very fatalistic. But the spirit of Jerusalem carries on. We had the first international marathon in Jerusalem the other day. Thousands of people from abroad!

    CRUMP: Friday night in Jerusalem. What’s it LIKE there? I guess you can talk about the VIOLENCE. I, I, I guess the potential for violence is always there, just given human nature, without going into the politics. But Jerusalem stands for the IDEAL, doesn’t it! It stands for human potential, doesn’t it! Like the Blake poem—that sort of thing.

    LIAT COLLINS: There is a, a, a, a feeling you get nowhere else. I’m just so PRIVILEGED and so BLESSED to live here!

    CRUMP: Uuuummmmm. I wonder what people in Israel think about the recent protests and moves toward democracy in the Middle East?

    LIAT COLLINS: Ummmmmm, there’s a lot of concern. Ummmmmm, we have a major missile problem going on in the south at the moment, you know? Sponsored by Iranian terror, you know? Ummmm, there’s a phrase “global jihad”, ehhhhmmmmm, Israel is like a canary in the mine, ehhhhhmmmm, I mean, democracy is GREAT, but ehhhhhmmmm, it can be abused, you know? Ehmmmmmm.

    CRUMP: Liat Collins from the Jerusalem Post, nice to talk to you! She’ll be back in three weeks!

    • Deborah Kean 12.1

      My giddy aunt! I haven’t the words

      • Morrissey 12.1.1

        Nor, sadly, does Bryan Crump.

      • lprent 12.1.2

        I was just amazed that M (presumably) transcribed that

        • Morrissey 12.1.2.1

          I certainly did. In steadily mounting fury and disbelief.

          • D-D-D-Damn ! 12.1.2.1.1

            I generally like Crump. A very engaging broadcaster.

            But he needs to be kept THE FUCK AWAY from anything on the Israel/Palestine “conflict”.
            He clearly has no idea whatsoever. Absolute mana from heaven for the Israel lobby.

            Meanwhile, yet another bullshit Listener Editorial. This one (‘Whose Revolution ?’, April 2 2011) equates/conflates Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood with the Taleban and al Qaeda !!! They don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.

            Apparently, in the current Middle East vacuum, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood “become very real but alarming prospects.” Sorry, but how many Palestinian civilians have the Israeli military murdered over the last decade ? How many Palestinian detainees have been tortured over the last 40 years ? Which state has been illegally occupying and ethnically-cleansing Palestinan Territory for the last 44 fucking years ?
            Which state has been regularly commiting War Crimes according to leading Human Rights Organisations, the UN and even long-term Zionists like Richard Goldstone ?

            • Morrissey 12.1.2.1.1.1

              I’m afraid I find Crump’s vacuity more than irritating. He has a prime spot on radio, and he has inherited a solid audience of generally thoughtful listeners. If he has no knowledge of the middle east, that’s no crime of course. But he should not go near the subject until he has done some homework. Clearly he is ignorant about Israeli and Palestinian politics, and people like Shaheen and Collins will of course take advantage of that.

              I, and I am sure lots of other people, wrote to Crump and politely remonstrated with him after the Shaheen debacle three weeks ago. He did not even give me the courtesy of a reply.

  13. Draco T Bastard 13

    The knowledge economy paradox

    Conclusion: jurisdictions that attempt to enforce a strong copyright protection regime will see reduced innovation, especially in the knowledge economy, compare to jurisdictions that adopt a weaker copyright protection model.

    This is something that, too me, is fairly obvious. Excessive IP protection leads to reduced innovation at the very least and more likely stagnation rather than innovation nirvana that the neo-lib economists and capitalists say will result. This shows, IMO, that the strong IP protection that is called for isn’t there to promote innovation but to protect the capitalists profits.

    • M 13.1

      Yes Draco, excessive. I heard a woman once was considering trying to copyright moves for a children’s movement to music class and nearly laughed. I said that it would be virtually impossible as many people could independently come up with the same idea.

      People’s lust to squeeze out the last dollar from everything is shocking.

  14. ianmac 14

    Bit late tonight, but on the subject of Bullying, tonight on Maori TV after 11pm, Kelvin Davis MP and ex Principal, gave a run-down on how he handled bullying. In short they surveyed the school with the help of a team of observers to get a base line. The 300 kids were asked to name on paper who had bullied them in the last month. This threw up 4-5 bullies out of 300 kids. They conferenced with the bully, family and teachers. Family was often the behaviour source. A survey a year later showed a drop of over 90% of violence. Very direct and workmanlike delivery from Kelvin. (Another great Labour MP.)

    • M 14.1

      ianmac, this is heartening to hear as I believe bullying in many cases starts with the parents’ prejudices being passed down to their offspring.

      Fantastic that someone saw a need and took action rather than reacting after a possibly tragic event.

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    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    23 hours ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 day ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 day ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
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    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 day ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Contempt
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    2 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
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    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    2 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
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    3 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    3 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
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    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
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    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    4 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
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    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    5 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
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    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    6 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
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    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
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    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
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    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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