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Written By: - Date published: 10:20 am, August 7th, 2008 - 26 comments
Categories: national, spin - Tags: ,

John Key’s claims that Labour has been digging through the rubbish outside his Helensville electorate office have been dismissed by Michael Cullen this morning as paranoia. However, CCTV footage revealed exclusively to The Standard suggests Mr Key might just be onto something.

Remember John, it’s not paranoia if they’re really out to get you.

[Seriously though, what kind of chumps does Key take us for? Any fool knows paperwork would be recycled and any sensitive documents would go through the shredder. Furthermore, there’d be nothing worth finding at Key’s local electorate office anyway, unless you’re interested in last week’s Herald crossword or care what beer his electorate staff drink. This is just another clumsy example of the misdirection tactics I outlined yesterday. And, judging by the media coverage, it’s working.]

26 comments on “Rubbish ”

  1. burt 1


    That footage is doctored. If it were real the dog in question would be a poodle.

  2. Tane 2

    Good spotting Burt.

    I’ve doctored the image to protect the dog’s identity.

  3. coge 3

    Whats going on? I thought it was “one law for all dogs”

  4. Higherstandard 4

    Burt excellent

  5. ghostwhowalks 5

    While you out in Kumeu with the rubbish , its a short trip up the road to the hobby farm where Key said he was living ‘ for at least the last month’ when he filled out an enrolment form once he was after the party preselection.

    Key has gone beyond slippery , hes now greasy

  6. [Deleted]

    The Dim Post’s review of this site is spot on: it is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Labour-led Govt, and will do anything and everything to keep that party in power.

    [lprent: The dim-post’s writers are repeating a lie from other sites, therefore so are you.

    This site is run by me and written by a cooperative. We’ve stated how this site was set up – see the About. I’ve personally explained it many times, and I don’t appreciate being called a liar. You are aware of this. I take pleasure in banning idiots so that is what I will do now.

    Banned for a month, and I’ll remove most of your comment rampage – not that there was anything very interesting in it anyway.]

  7. He’s also still implying that National got hacked by Nicky Hager in interviews – the latest being on Closeup. “Deluded and paranoid” is how I remember describing him over at NewZBlog this morning.

    We’ve had a few world leaders who can only be described as “Deluded and paranoid” over the years. They haven’t exactly made the world a better place.

  8. rjs131 8

    I am sure that the people of Helensville will see through this, and will mean an even bigger victory margin for the brilliant Darien Fenton.

  9. yl 9


    i think that you have not thought through how silly Johnny’s claims are. Therefore, it is stupid to compare them to Helen’s PI claim.

    Look at the picture that was supplied by National (minus the dog).

    Now there is rubbish all over the lawn, if someone was going through their rubbish for information they wouldnt leave it all scattered over the lawn once they were done,

    also, i have to agree with Tane
    “Furthermore, there’d be nothing worth finding at Key’s local electorate office anyway, unless you’re interested in last week’s Herald crossword or care what beer his electorate staff drink.”

    I dont think that it is such a good idea to sit there and run your mouth without thinking through the logic of what you are proposing.

    I think Tane is posting about how stupid a claim it is from Johnny that the Labour party would go through is trash, rather then whether or it actually happened.

  10. Bill 10

    jeez. If you want to go through somebody’s rubbish, you remove the rubbish bag and go through it methodically in a secure location. Don’t you?

  11. Jeezus Christ National are getting paranoid! Look my Dog goes through my garbage on a regular basis and it looks just like that. Unfortunately I’m not as rich as John Key so have to pick clean it up myself but still!

  12. Hoolian 12

    [lprent: Banned – so deleted.]

  13. Quoth the Raven 13

    Have you thought about impartiality? Or even common sense? – Hoolian

  14. Tim Ellis 14

    It wouldn’t surprise me if somebody is going through john key’s rubbish, because they were doing it last election too. I wonder if the rubbish is in a bag or a wheely bin. Possibly a dog if it’s in a bag but almost certainly not an animal if it’s in a wheely bin and also answers why the rubbish bag wasn’t stolen and carried elsewhere.

    It does seem like they eat a lot of McDonald’s in john key’s electorate office though. Maybe it was the food police getting a bit of publicity to highlight the poor eating habits of his electorate office staff.

  15. That picture just looks like some mcdonalds someone has chucked on the ground. Bet it’s just staged.

  16. forgetaboutthelastone 16

    First thing i thought when I saw the photo is that it was faked. If you want to go through peoples rubbish you don’t leave such obvious evidence that you have been doing so. Where the hell is the actual bin anyways?

    And then I thought about JK’s ridiculous claim that the tapes may have been doctored or faked.

  17. Phil 17

    A cunning Labour party activist could easily buy-off the cleaner… you’d be suprised at what people leave on their desk.

  18. yl 18

    I just got an email about this, i think that it makes a great point

    “I would like John Key to explain to his constituents why his electorate office has not adopted standard and reasonable precautions to safeguard the information privacy of constituents who have approached his office for help. Constituents often approach their MP when they are vulnerable and in circumstances where they may suffer considerable harm from a breach of their privacy. Constituent cases in an MP’s office should be regarded as sensitive.

    No Government department or institution such as a bank would get away with an excuse that someone stole confidential files from their rubbish bin for a breach of a customer’s information privacy. Industry standards and an avalanche of standards and regulations worldwide require that agencies take steps to secure confidential information. At a minimum, that would include shredding confidential documents or having a secure destruction bin from a waste company.

    Crying foul about the rubbish bin espionage compromising confidential information has really just highlighted sloppy practices at John Key’s electorate office.

    The people of Helensville’s secrets are probably safe with Fido but I wonder what the Privacy Commissioner would say about the adequacy of steps being taken to protect private information?”

  19. lprent 19

    yl: I hadn’t thought about that. Every electorate office I’ve been in has shredders and secure rubbish. That is because they do a *lot* of social work at them where the information is both private and sensitive.

    Perhaps parliamentary services should do an audit on the security systems at the Helensville office prior to this incident. A public report perhaps?

    Just trying to help the security of the nations electorate offices…

  20. Snelly Boy 20

    Obviously staged and not very well either.

    Otherwise, someone really enjoys stone cold Mickey D’s. Closest one would be a good 20/25 mins away.

  21. Is it just me or are the following things a bit odd:

    There is the office sign conveniently placed in the top of the picture – WTF

    When you go through rubbish you just steal the bag and do the search in a secure place.

    The placement of the sign suggests it was done out the front of the office (see point two for absurdity)

    Confidential papers can’t have gone missing from the trash because nobody puts confidential papers in the trash.

    Why were the only fingerprints on the bin Kevin Taylor’s? (Okay I just made that up but it wouldn’t surprise me…)

    Linkhore: http://robinsod.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/and-the-shots-just-get-cheaper/ (yeah, I know that’s not a point but it would be nice if someone read my blog now and then…)

  22. Razorlight 22

    ‘Is it just me or are the following things a bit odd’

    It is just you

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