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11:26 pm, November 30th, 2014 - 92 comments
Categories: blogs, David Farrar, journalism, making shit up, Politics - Tags: cameron slater, pr, scott campbell, Senate SHJ, the nation, tv3
On The Nation this weekend, Scott Campbell, in a discussion about the fallout from Dirty Politics, said :-
I won’t drop anyones name in it. But the beehive under Helen Clark were writing posts on The Standard. This used to happen. They used to write posts against journalists, I know because I was one of them that they used to write posts against. It has happened in and around the beehive for a long time.
I think that the difference here is that it was SIS details….
I think that this claim is just complete bullshit. Both because I know where the posts were coming from during that time and who they were referencing. But there is a more objective reason.
Evidence of this claim should show up in the text of the site, and it doesn’t.
Now personally, I can’t remember Scott Campbell coming up on this site. In fact I can’t remember him at all. But I really don’t bother remembering journalists much unless they write or present something of value.
However he has provided a pretty tight frame of events to check on.
The site started in August 15th 2007 and the 5th Labour government got voted out of office on 8th of November 2008. It is also about Scott Campbell or possibly who he was working for at the time.
Unlike Cameron Slater, who removes posts and even comments for politically or legally expedient reasons, we don’t remove comments or posts which have gone up on the site and passed initial moderation.
So we’d expect to see references to Scott Campbell in the quite small volumes of posts and comments from 2007 and 2008.
But there is absolutely nothing mentioning Scott Campbell until 2009, and that was in two comments separated by about 5 months.
In February 2010, well over a year after the Helen Clark government left office, we finally see the first mention of Scott Campbell in a post.
But maybe Scott Campbell was talking about TV3 News (or Radio Live) in general?
He was employed at TV3 News from Jan 2007 and Jan 2010 and at Radio Live during the same period according to his Linkedin profile
Well, just knock yourself out like I just did. The site was a whole lot smaller and slower in content in 2007-2008 compared to now. But I read every post (and many of the comments) referencing TV3 and Radio Live.
This link has every reference to TV3 ever made in the posts pointing at the last page in 2007. There are only about 30 odd posts to look at in the timeframe that Scott Campbell specified.
“TV3 promoting a National/NZF government?” pointing out a strange google ad bias that showed up only on TV3 is the only one that is vaguely critical of TV3.
This link has every reference to Radio Live in posts. There are just four in the time period and while they are critical of some of the reporting, it is had to see where they had a go at a political commentator. The nearest was a question about why Mickey Havoc was pulled to allow Bill Ralston to interview John Key – Ralston being John Key’s media advisor at the time.
I also did long scan of the comments mentioning either during the period. The comments are just the usual range of criticism and plaudits of the coverage. Just use the advanced search functions on the right of any page.
Scott Campbell just displayed that he was more than just a simple liar on the Nation. As a PR dick, he’d have to know what he was doing. Presumably that was why he was quite so specific about time and that ‘we’ targeted journalists for the parliamentary Labour party. For that authentic allegation feel.
Presumably even if someone was telling him this crap, then as a responsible journalist at the time, he would have gone beyond just listening to other bullshit artists and checked himself.
But there is absolutely no evidence at all that there were any attacks on Scott Campbell, TV3 News, or even Radio Live at The Standard during the Clark government.
Since Scott Campbell was quite specific that there was and that he was a target of it, he must have deliberately decided to smear our site with a lie. Presumably trying to make us look like being arsehole sockpuppet bloggers just like that idiot Cameron Slater. And presumably to try and cover for his mate John Key.
It is unlikely that we’d get a retraction or an apology from Scott Campbell or The Nation. I will probably just settle for mentioning Scott Campbell and The Nation as an example of a program enabling a duplicitous PR liar for a while.
I think about 4 or 5 years of pointed denigration for everyone around Scott Campbell will be a far more effective deterrent than the ridiculous press organisations or the long tedious and expensive civil litigation.
I’m getting rather tired of this silly PR line being used against this site…
* For the usual conspiracy theorists who think the site may have been sanitized. We aren’t the only people who store the site. So changes to the site content tend to be quite visible. The National Library regularly archive the site and have done so since soon after its creation. I have specific exclusions in our security against webbots to allow them through. You can also find the site on the Wayback engine and other archives.