Yep, looks like we've finally reached "Peak Red" (TM)
OK, I was referring to the mandate (as expressed by the electorate last year) to enact their manifesto. I'm sure that if the majority are upset enough by this issue then they will vote them out in 2017. You might not agree, but to me that's democracy.
They may not have your democratic respect, but they do have the NZ people's mandate. I wonder which they care about the most?
OK - Cabinet is appointed by the leader of our democratically elected Government, fine with that?
Correct, as per my comment 4.2.2.1 above
Not according to Prof Jane Kelsey http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1312/S00148/explanation-of-nzs-treaty-making-process.htm
Incorrect, read http://mfat.govt.nz/Trade-and-Economic-Relations/2-Trade-Relationships-and-Agreements/Trans-Pacific/1-TPP-Talk/0-TPP-talk-10b-July-2015.php
The "discussions are secret", correct - most negotiations are - but the final agreement to be ratified by our elected representatives will be public.
Thanks for clarifying, Tautoko Mangō Mata - the Cabinet appointed by our duly elected Parliament, specifically.
Nonsense Chooky, the TPPA needs to be ratified by our duly elected Parliament. Why do you hate democracy? If the democratically-elected government isn't doing what you want, persuade a majority (or enough of a minority) to your way of thinking.
Thanks from me too, Poission, very interesting - i knew his son Ito Tsukigawa (a printer in Oamaru) when I was a lad, he was a top man.
This reflexive "National/John Key's fault" reflects poorly on you - got anything respectful of the man who died, or otherwise constructive?
"Michael Laws parents in Wanganui had typically for the period low skills" - his father Keith was rector of Waitaki BHS and then principal of Scots College, is that what you mean? I don't think it reinforces your point.
Correct - my point is/was that both issues are black, and the OP shouldn't be painting the present issue as white.
Don't need a link, I here and now condemn Slater and Ede's accessing of LP data. I also condemn B&T employee's leak of private data. Which do you condemn Tracey, either or both? Violation of privacy is violation of privacy, and hypocrisy is hypocrisy.
No I don't, and "I'm not sure if you have an idea of" hypocrisy.
Divulging a private company's private data to media/political parties whilst being an employee of that company = doing God's work. Accessing an unsecured database of a poilitical party's donors = crime of the century. Thanks, I think I've got it now.
Excellent comment, to the point
Probably worth bookmarking TRP's headline to this thread for next time they make a prediction [I'm tired of pointing out that the headline was tongue in cheek. The post was also tagged social media lolz and led with a cheesy video of Ed Miliband. If you're...
Boom! Headshot! You've nailed it, TLS
So it is just a bit of banter, right? just checking
OAB - reply to your comment of 7.55 am today (reply function no go) - you are correct, "That’s the proposal – link MPs pay rises to public servants’." Not the other way around - you should worry more about your English comprehension than your Latin.
Non sequitur
How so?
How would aligning MPs' salaries to public sector wages keep the latter "artificially low"?
So he's doing a good thing with bad motives? Or he's doing a bad thing?
So - John Key introducing legislation to limit MPs' pay rises - good thing or bad thing? So - John Key introducing legislation to limit MPs' pay rises - good thing or bad thing? (Sorry, terrible echo in here)
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