Victoria University Chancellor Neville Jordan spits the dummy

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1. One Anonymous Bloke 1

   8 March 2016 at 8:24 am

   Can laughter be a cure for the fearful stunted intellect of the neo-liberal?
   • adam 1.1

     8 March 2016 at 8:31 am

     Always the best option.

     Laugh at them
   • BLiP 1.2

     8 March 2016 at 8:38 am

     ‘

     Don’t underestimate the intellect of your average neoliberal, some of them are very smart and know exactly what they are doing. They just don’t care about the human suffering because those humans suffering “made bad choices”. The difficulty is that their thinking has become twisted into a cult devotion where mammon, in the form of “the invisible hand”, must at all times be worshiped. The neoliberal cult provides all manner of thought-stopping easy answers which are simply parroted because to do otherwise is to actually consider their role in the harm being caused.

     Mockery is, however, a useful tool because it pricks the ego of those suffering cognitive dissonance and causes them to lose it, like Neville did. The fall out is harsh on those directly involved in the mockery and/or on those close to the neoliberal spluttering in rage but it does highlight a certain irrationality.
     • Macro 1.2.1

       8 March 2016 at 9:24 am

       ^ This
       Well said BLiP
     • saveNZ 1.2.2

       8 March 2016 at 9:36 am

       +100 Blip
     • AB 1.2.3

       8 March 2016 at 9:40 am

       “Don’t underestimate the intellect of your average neoliberal”
       Absolutely right – that’s why they are especially dangerous and especially contemptible.
     • One Anonymous Bloke 1.2.4

       8 March 2016 at 4:10 pm

       Agreed: never underestimate a fearful stunted intellect.
2. Lanthanide 2

   8 March 2016 at 8:51 am

   Not really sure why this is on The Standard, since there doesn’t seem to be any sort of political angle to this at all, really.

   Seems like something better suited to Facebook sharing amongst your friends, or a Stuff “news” article.
   • Psycho Milt 2.1

     8 March 2016 at 10:07 am

     There is a political angle. The current government rearranged University councils to have fewer members, with elected staff/student representation disappearing and the councils dominated by Stephen Joyce’s appointees. The aim is to further Joyce’s programme of making universities tools of his government’s economic policies. This pompous ass Jordan is one of Joyce’s appointees.
     • Lanthanide 2.1.1

       8 March 2016 at 10:11 am

       Ah, I see that that is very briefly alluded to at the end of this story, but I didn’t have time to follow the link to read more.

       Still think this could have been explained a bit better for people (such as myself) not familiar with this meddling by National, or even who this person is.
       • weka 2.1.1.1

         8 March 2016 at 11:36 am

         It’s also political because of the pressure from him to the student newspaper implying that he is immune from satire.
     • BLiP 2.1.2

       8 March 2016 at 10:22 am

       ‘

       Indeed. And lets not forget that Spud Bolger is also in there riding this particular gravy train. So, now that the reduction in oversight and the seeding of neoliberal mates has largely been completed, all that’s required to justify the elimination of the humanities is a nice juicy Productivity Commission report, complete with fancy graphs detailing projected economic benefits. Oh, hang on . . .

       . . . Productivity Commission chairman Murray Sherwin said increases in tertiary education had not translated into increased economic productivity, and the sector needed to be ready to make the most of new technologies.

       Mr Sherwin said the investigation would look particularly closely at some of the challenges facing tertiary institutions . . .

       . . . surprise, surprise.
       • greywarshark 2.1.2.1

         9 March 2016 at 6:52 pm

         @Blip
         A very reasonable fear. Humanities are about humans in all their aspects. But unis are now mainly about symbolic, created systems and machines. Sorry species and the living world, we are out of favour this year, this century. Roll up the red carpet, grab our petitions, requests and begging bowls and get off out of sight, before we get kicked out and told to stay out with a banning order.

         Words for this century. I like cognitive dissonance used above by Blip I think. Google – cognitive dissonance
         nounPsychology
         noun: cognitive dissonance
         the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioural decisions and attitude change.
         Rosie thought dissociation had resonance.
         edited
     • Ovid 2.1.3

       8 March 2016 at 11:13 am

       But he’s the chancellor, not the vice-chancellor. The V-C wields executive authority and is basically the CEO of a university. Chancellors are much more ceremonial roles, they confer degrees at graduation and serve as advocates for their institutions. They don’t typically come in Monday-Friday at 8.30 a.m. for a full day of chancelling.

       It’s basically a sinecure.
       • Psycho Milt 2.1.3.1

         8 March 2016 at 9:02 pm

         If you imagine the University Council doesn’t have an effect on the culture of the place, you’re dreaming. Trying to directly appoint the VC would be declaration of a war Joyce would probably lose – this approach is more insidious and harder to oppose. It’s called “politics.”
3. repateet 3

   8 March 2016 at 9:46 am

   I haven’t seen the apology but would happily have provided one for the editors of Salient.

   A whole page would have been my suggestion saying:

   “We unreservedly apologise for giving Neville Jordan the opportunity to prove he was a dick and that he whole heartedly took it up.”

   His knighthood sure as hell can’t have been for having a sense of humour, common sense or for that matter, intellectual capacity.
4. grumpystilskin 4

   8 March 2016 at 9:49 am

   You’d have to be a complete muppet to not realise it’s humour.
   He must have a VERY high opinion of himself to take that seriously and be offended.
   Ego can be a bitch.. Now my 500+ friends on FB will see it as well.
5. repateet 5

   8 March 2016 at 10:29 am

   I’ve now seen the apology on:
   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11601889

   I’ve got one of those fancy new computers which deciphers the ostensibly unseen words written in invisible ink. Written on the published apology are all sorts of stuff the writers of the “humble apology” really thought and said.

   They’re dead right!
6. weka 6

   8 March 2016 at 11:38 am

   The Spinoff also had a poke at the borax over this,

   http://thespinoff.co.nz/07-03-2016/is-victoria-university-chancellor-sir-neville-jordan-the-biggest-dryballs-in-new-zealand-a-spinoff-investigation/
7. SPC 7

   8 March 2016 at 3:34 pm

   The great and all powerful Chancellor is just a ceremonial poster “boy” in a sinecure, but stating the truth (challenging the phony) is not PC in modern authoritarian capitalist power fawning academia.
8. One Anonymous Bloke 8

   8 March 2016 at 4:16 pm

   Too funny, Salient’s ‘apology’ was of the Clayton’s variety.

   We unreservedly apologise for the offence and confusion caused…

   Translation: we’re sorry about the state of your mind.

   I sincerely hope the spluttering trash notices that they’ve added insult to injury, and then fails to comprehend that his eyes are bigger than his stomach 😈
9. Colonial Viper 9

   8 March 2016 at 5:15 pm

   He used to have a better sense of humour than this.
10. feijoa 10

    8 March 2016 at 6:32 pm

    Go Salient!
    Do not be bowed down by this!!
11. ropata 11

    8 March 2016 at 11:45 pm

    “sir” neville jordan, another entitled aristocrat living a life of privilege, getting upset when the lower classes don’t show proper respect for his esteemed station.

    fucking hell is this a university or an English ponce school?
    what happened to free thinking, free expression for all ideas, including those deemed offensive?

    ffs uni has become a factory for commerce and marketing droids learning how to rip off the poor and less connected

    “sir” neville jordan … upper class twat of the week
12. Lucy 12

    9 March 2016 at 10:35 am

    Bet if the editor’s were not women then the VUWSA might have stood behind them. If they want to see satire much more radical than this I have a number of early student mags from the late 60’s early 70’s that would show them they could wind it up more. At least they have got rid of the LAD culture which stop me reading Salient about 10 years ago. Got sick of the boy giggles that it was reduced to – may have to start reading it again. Hopefully they can start the investigations that they used to have!
13. Smilin 13

    9 March 2016 at 11:04 am

    You know that song “Rebel Rebel you tore my dress” maybe it should be Neville Neville
14. North 14

    9 March 2016 at 6:01 pm

    70s Wellington – “Cock” – an undergroundish ‘publication’ by Chris Wheeler. Now that was pungent satire ! If not criminal libel. I remember the long running completely invented word picture of the hot affair between Esme Tombleson National MP for Gisborne and Brian Talboys Minister of Education…….Brian’s regular early morning scuttling from Esme’s Wellington flat in the VIP Valiant ministerial self-drive. “Yards and yards of anonymous cloth hangin’ between his legs” (Talboys favoured the very draped double breasted). Was hilarious, naughty stuff. Must be many other Standard people familiar with the political characters of the Aro Valley of the day which is where I think Wheeler was placed.

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