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Splits and divisions

Written By: - Date published: 1:53 pm, January 7th, 2009 - 57 comments
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Which MP only got his job by 39 votes?

Which former State house kid and brand-new Tory MP already has ambitions to be the next John Key?

Which National MP from a working-class background is going around telling people he opposes the 90 Day Fire at Will law and thinks rushing it through was a huge mistake but won’t say so in public to protect his career prospects?

How many others in the National caucus does he say also think Key has made a hash of things and will have to go if he can’t prove himself in the coming year?

57 comments on “Splits and divisions”

  1. lukas 1

    My guess is SP will use the phrase- “Word around the traps is” or something to that effect and not give a shred of evidence to back up anything he just said other than the margin that the MP won by.

  2. Who is Aaron Gilmore?

  3. 8 & 4 3

    National’s leadership has been flat-footed on the Israel/Hamas issue (biggest story of 2009 so far). Goff and Clark have been all over it.

  4. sweeetdisorder 4

    8 & 4

    Everyone is still on holiday, or in holiday mode. Nobody gives a toss about this at the moment.

    As for biggest story of 2009, umm, it is only the 7th of Jan for fecks sake!!!! Suggest you, take some time out and go to the beach. Come back in Feb when the year really does begin.

  5. Whero 5

    Wouldn’t be “Double Dipper” Sam, would it?

  6. 8 & 4 6

    sweeetdisorder – I would take some time out at the beach, but my Hawaiian beach front holiday home is being renovated.

  7. Tigger 7

    The Nats continued silence over the Hamas mess is further proof that they have no clue how to handle international stuff. And clearly that comes from the top. Key isn’t a leader and he’s certainly not PM material. He won’t go until there is someone to take his place of course…and at the moment there isn’t.

    Wait until the economic climate starts to bite, unemployment rises and petrol goes through the roof again…then there will really be a mess to watch and pressure on Key to step up or step down…

    As for the guessing game – which National Cabinet Minister has been backstabbing Paula Bennett every chance she gets both privately and semi-publicly? Come on National, Labour and the others have the knives out for you – it’s a bit soon to be turning on one another.

  8. John BT 8

    O dear, we have got at least another 9 years of this picking on that nice Mr Key and his friends. Well I suppose it is better than that other crowd who only know tax, tax, tax and we are still no better off.
    Also, I thought Double Dipper was called Shane or Steve.

  9. TghtyRighty 9

    “The Nats continued silence over the Hamas mess is further proof that they have no clue how to handle international stuff”

    Are you serious Tigger? having both Muslim and Jewish communities residing in New Zealand, and an independent foreign policy means that National, Key and McCully are getting it right. Refusal to condemn said actions, while calling for a ceasefire is rather practical.

    Just because National don’t go in guns blazing, condemning things, like Goff, Minto and Loony Locke do does not mean they have no clue. Rather it protects National from allegations of hypocrisy, as National would be doing exactly what the IDF are doing, running in, guns blazing, condemning things. Therefore, the actions of Goff, MInto and Loony Locke in condemning the IDF’s considered response to provocation, can be accused of hypocrisy.

  10. Rex Widerstrom 10

    1. I don’t care. Under the system we have, that’s what can happen. I’m all for debating changing it, but what’s the point of whining about a perfectly legitimate result (or, to put it another way: they won, you lost, eat that).

    2. A first term MP with ambitions to become PM?! Wow! Gosh! Golly! Errrr… perhaps you could show me one of the conniving little suckers from any party that doesn’t nurture that dream somewhere in their pinstriped breast?

    3. An MP with an independent mindset and you want to squash it. Yes, who is it Steve, so we can all praise him or her for a) breaking free of the hive mind required of their members by National and Labour; b) injecting some actual debate into the “debate” and c) (hopefully) arriving at a conclusion after talking with and listening to the people s/he represents?

    4. It’s just a tad early to be squawking “leadership spill”. The rule is usually to wait till the Leader has had a chance to make a balls-up on the first day of Parliament, then keep it up every fortnight or so. And it’s handy to have a “code phrase” you consider riotously humorous, like “barbecue at Phil’s place”.

  11. Rex. I would praise him on 3. if he had crossed the floor on the issue or at least stated concerns. As it was, he is a coward.

  12. lukas. unfortunately, the secret taper isn’t around everytime the tories let the truth slip.

  13. lukas 13

    This information is probably as reliable as whoever it was that whispered to you that Rodney was going to lose Epsom

  14. Rex Widerstrom 14

    Not every internal division in a party needs to be fought out in public. I heartily wish it could be, because then we’d see democracy at work. But whenever someone breaks free of the hive mind the idiots in the media play it up as “internal divisions” and “rifts” and label the MP(s) as “maverick(s)” and generally make a huge drama out of what should be quite an ordinary process so as to give themselves airtime or column space to pontificate on the likelihood of some sort of showdown.

    Hopefully this individual is also lobbying his fellow MPs on the issue and not just blabbing to supporters. Perhaps s/he’s trying to signal to the powerbrokers that unless they moderate their plans there’ll be dissent, but in such a way that both they and the powerbrokers can pretend no such thing occurred and thus save face. That’s often the way politics is done.

    There’s a myriad of possible reasons – including a lack of experience leaving the MP concerned not really knowing what s/he can do to change things, so just expressing their frustration to anyone who’ll listen.

    Rather than trying to shoot them down, perhaps you’d be better advised to be shoring them up? Certainly if I were working for a union I’d be getting alongside that person now, not taking pot shots in blogs.

  15. Oh don’t worry Lucas – those wee tid-bits seem about right to me and I’ve got a strange knack for finding these sorts of things out…

    I’d also add provocative question five – “which senior government MP has done more than a little moonlighting over the last few years?”…

  16. Do you work for a union Rwex?

  17. mike 17

    Up to the old dirty and desperate tricks eh SP.

    Since the direct smear on Key back-fired so spectacularly the pinko’s think divide and conquer work. Get a life FFS.

    On the middle east issue – here’s one from left field, tell the hamas terrorists to stop trying to kill innocent Israelis and the conflict will end – its not rocket science

  18. Peter Burns 18

    Wodinwod – what union represents the 357 CYFS kids killed by the state since year 2000?
    Welcome to the kiwi nightmare kids!!!

  19. faded tigger 20

    GRASPING AT STRAWS & CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

    The classic hallmarks of the losing team.

  20. Rex Widerstrom 21

    Robinsod: No, but I have in the past, handling media and government relations. If I heard a whiff of an MP with supposed leadership ambitions and a problem over government policy I’d be cultivating them. Perhaps much in the way a farmer cultivates lambs – and for the same reason – but cultivating nonetheless.

  21. Peter Burns 22

    I like the idea of cultivating MP’s for the meatworks, because they’re only good for blood and bone fertilizer to put on me Toms.

  22. Tigger 23

    TRighty – “Refusal to condemn said actions, while calling for a ceasefire is rather practical.”

    No, they’re fence-sitting while hundreds of Arabs die every day. Nuttin’ ‘practical’ about that, mate.

    The Nats are fence sitting to keep their dream date the USA happy. They’re not actually making a decision based on what they believe – or even being diplomatic – they are simply brown nosing.

    I’ve read people deride Labour’s stance and the Green’s position as simply spouting words. Words might be hollow given that words alone ain’t gonna stop this mess, but I’ll take conviction and taking a stand over pathetic fence sitting any day.

    This ‘don’t want to say anything that might make Uncle Sam unhappy’ position is the foreign policy we can expect till Key and his merry band of impotent wimps is gone. And it’s kind of pathetic.

  23. Tigger 24

    Hang on, just read McCully’s latest press release –
    “New Zealand is deeply worried by the mounting humanitarian crisis in Gaza as a result of the continuing Israeli ground offensive,” he said.

    Oh yes, I can see peace ringing out in the Middle East as a result of Murray McCully’s inspirational words of encouragement…

  24. marco 25

    your kidding yourselves if you think Helen would not be fence sitting right now.

  25. TghtyRighty 26

    Oh no hundreds of arab’s dying? most of whom carry assault rifles and are committed to throwing israel back into the med. sorry if i don’t get all anguished if a few innocent arab’s get caught in the crossfire, unfortunately it may be the price you pay when your state is run by democratically elected terrorists.

    Sitting on the fence to keep the USA happy? your pretty deluded, specially as National are calling for a ceasefire, which is a more productive form of involvement would you not agree?

    Oh, and I’m not, nor ever will be, your mate.

  26. lprent 27

    TR: “unfortunately it may be the price you pay when your state is run by democratically elected terrorists.

    Yeah the Israelis have had a problem with having elected both convicted and effective terrorists for the past 50 years. It explains a lot about the political culture of Israel and why this conflict has gone on for so long. People who think that power grows out of the barrel of a gun tend not to negotiate or compromise, even when it is in the best interests of whom they purport to represent.

    Of course when they do get someone that does start working for peace then they get shot or a shift in coalitions to prevent it from happening. Most of the time politics in Israel consists of leaders saying that “I’m more of a terrorist than the other guy”.

    These days they have built their very own Warsaw ghetto Gaza strip with walls, guards, and have embarked on the starvation of the inhabitants. Ultimately they hope that the inhabitants will starve to death embrace co-existance. Thereby getting rid of the problem.

    Anyway, just as the Israelis have learned from the peoples of eastern and central Europe in the pogroms and genocides of the 19th and 20th centuries, they are now passing the lessons on. Even their rationale and excuses for their barbarous actions sound like the ones emitting from Germany and Austria in the 30’s and 40’s.

  27. TightyRighty 28

    good one lprent, i remember reading in every account of world war II, that it was preceeded by poland and frace and especially their jewish populations firing artillery and rockets into german civilian populations.

  28. Tim Ellis 29

    Happy New Year to you LP. I understand the passion involved here, but comparing the Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto says to me that you haven’t visited either place. Conditions in the Gaza are pretty tough, but using hysteria like that isn’t helpful.

  29. Lew 30

    TR: Do you think the Nazis’ actions would have been justifiable if the Poles had fired a few mortars before being invaded?

    Yes, I know it’s a pig-fucker argument, but just look what a stupid argument you’re trying to make. Not that comparing Gaza to the Holocaust is much better.

    L

  30. Johnty Rhodes 31

    TR – can you give references to the Jews firing rockets into German cities? I have read many accounts of WW2, especially the Eastern Front but I cannot recall reading this. Least get some facts right.

    Also, the walls kept the suicide bombers out have they not, that is why they were built. At least the Germans were not economical with the truth as to the WG being set up.

    While we are on the Warsaw Ghetto, why did the Russians stop at the Vistula for 2 months while the fighting was still going on, after all they had just destroyed Army Group Center in Op. Bagration? Sounds like the Arab nations/UN to me.

  31. TightyRighty 32

    Jonty,

    I think the facts you are looking for are filed under S for sarcasm.

  32. Quoth the Raven 33

    Over at Lenin’s There is an interesting look at the numbers of dead. 550 Gazans out of 1.4 million killed over 11 days is proportionally worse than what happened in Darfur at the height of the killings. It was easy enough for people to look at what was going on in Darfur and call it genocide…

  33. lprent 34

    TE: The stages of the formation of the Warsaw ghetto look disturbing like Gaza to me.

    Push a pile of people into an enclosed area with high density (makes it easy for disease to spread).

    Limit the availability of medicines (ditto).

    Reduce the food supply and steadily drop it (ditto)

    Use people as a workforce for a while.

    When ready use any provocation(s) to attack regardless of the proportionality.

    Ummm I’m having a real problem in distinguishing between 50 years of Israeli policy towards Gaza, and the first few years of German policy towards the Warsaw ghetto.

    Perhaps you’d clarify what I’ve missed?

    TR: So what you’re saying is that if the people stuffed in the Warsaw ghetto had rockets – then they shouldn’t have fired them in case they hurt some Germans?

    Explain to me exactly how this interesting concept in ethics operates? Just at present it sounds like you’re saying that the people stuffed in ovens should have been grateful?

  34. outofbed 35

    Energy Minister Gerry Brownlee could not be contacted last night.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/4812056a11.html

    Funny that

  35. TightyRighty 36

    No Lprent, you were saying that the reasoning for the legitimate attacks on gaza coming from Israel at the moment are similar to those coming out of austria/germany at pre-world war II. i think the reasonings coming out of israel right now are dealing with the specific threat that hamas poses to israels civilian population.

    Hama’s charter has a clause in it dedicated to the destruction of the state of israel. that is more like 1930’s germany than Israel is.

    And of course im advocating the Jews in the warsaw ghetto rising up, they did, with great impact but it was ultimately futile. however palestinians in gaza are in the ghetto not just because Israel quite rightly doens’t want a bunch hamas voting loonies within it’s border, but also because no other arab nation will take them in. despite the racial, language and cultural similarities.

    and really Lprent comparing the suffering of the most persecuted people on earth in possibly their darkest hour to what is happening in gaza is pretty pathetic and ludicrously dissproportianate.

  36. lprent 37

    TR: You mean that Israel did not want people that should have been their citizens to come back after 1948. It would have interfered in the state of Israel seixing their property.

    So you are in favour of either state sponsored ethnic cleansing or state sponsored property theft?

    BTW: Israel is actually responsible for the people of Gaza until they are taken up as citizens by some other state.

  37. TightyRighty 38

    Hyberbole and rhetoric, don’t forget Lprent that setting up the state of Israel was one of the first major acts of the united nations. the same UN that we are all supposed to bow down to now whenever it lifts one money wasting legs and passes wind.

    Israel shows more responsibility for Gaza than Hamas does. at least the israelis are attacking in defense, i don’t think the same could be said about hamas, who incidentally use their own people as suicide bombers against Israel.

  38. I see the spelling of your handle has been changing TR – are you are relogging for sockpuppet effect? ‘Cos if you are it might pay to consider the fact that two stupid righties making ill-educated arguments doesn’t stop the arguments being ill-educated. No matter how hard to try to back yourself up…

    Oh and TR you stupid fuck – you don’t get to challenge the “disproportionate” nature of others arguments when you spout absurd shit like “sorry if i don’t get all anguished if a few innocent arab’s get caught in the crossfire” (which, by the way, has a misplaced apostrophe…)

  39. TightyRighty 40

    i did change my handle OD, thats ok, thats my choice and i won’t be logging on as my old one. so you can keep your sock analogy.

    you epitomise the problem with the left OD, you don’t like when other people don’t think your way and don’t act your way. in fact you dislike it so much that you mouth taunts that i bet you would’t dare if i was standing face to face with you.

    Nothing about me is ill-educated, i read widely and am a product of the public school system. I at least encourage discussion without telling other people what rights they do and do not have in discussion. if you think it’s absurd that i don’t cry in my bed at night hugging my red blankie because a few arab civilians were killed in cross fire, thats fine. But i am not a stupid fuck.

  40. Steve Withers 41

    RE: “legitimate attacks”? No. Understandable, maybe but “legitimate” – not even close. I include both sides.

  41. lprent 42

    TR: Israel has been refusing responsibility for its citizens since 1948. It prefers (like you) to mindlessly label them as ‘terrorists’ so it can disenfranchise them.

  42. TightyRighty 43

    correct me if im wrong, but there is a signifcant minority of Arabs still in Israel proper isn’t there? i don’t think they are all labelled terrorists and treated as such by the Israeli state.

    [lprent: Damn spotted this while moderating…. Oh well treat as a comment
    About 5-10% from memory.
    Someone will no doubt inform you of the many ways that Israeli Arabs are treated as second class citizens in the own country. Are you really that ignorant of Israel’s internal political structure ?]

  43. randal 44

    national is a party of straw men and will be gone in three years

  44. Felix 45

    Hi ‘sod,

    TightyWhitey is one of the many goons who changed their handle in order to avoid the inevitable conflict between their pre-election support of National Party promises and their post-election support of National Party actions.

    Today’s display of his complete ignorance of middle-eastern history is just a holiday program really.

  45. TR – I’d certainly say such things to your face you wee dick. It’s not that you think differently from me that makes me think you’re a stupid fuck but the fact that you say suck stupid fucking things. As for your whining like a little girl about me telling you what rights you have in conversation? Suck it up – error has no rights. And you are in error. Consistently and without excuse…

  46. Pascal's bookie 47

    Tighty, on account of how you are not a stupid fuck, perhaps you could explain how the current IDF operation is supposed to achieve it’s stated objective of halting rocket attacks. Israel has stated that they have no intention of permanent reoccupation so if that isn’t the strategy, then what is?

    Seems to me at least, that the thinking is along the lines of “those Palestinians need to be taught a lesson, we’ll hit them hard and then they’ll be too scared to fire rockets”. But that seems really fucking stupid. Gaza has been hit hard before, and the hitting hard thing has never really worked. Indeed those unintended consequences often blowback all over the place. Often in cafeterias and buses. Not excusing it btw. Just saying what is. What ‘ought’ is of less interest to me. Western liberal notions of ‘ought’ don’t count for much in the middle east it seems to me. So it’s pointless discussing it that way.

    So if the action is related to the specific threat of the rockets as you claim, then how is it supposed to work, specifically?

    As you enjoy reading widely, I hope you find the following link thought provoking, I’d appreciate your thoughts as a non stupid fuck. This quote touches on some of that “throwing rivals off of buildings” thing you mentioned. Awful business, but Islamist underground politics under occupation and in police states throughout the middle east is a tough line of work.

    Hamas enjoys a special place in al-Qaeda’s enemies list. Al-Qaeda has long been desperate for a foothold in Palestine, but has been largely kept out because Hamas has the place locked. Jihadist forums bear a deep grudge over Hamas’s crackdown on various jihadist groups which have tried to set up shop there (Jaysh al-Islam, et al). In March 2006, Zawahiri denounced Hamas’s electoral victory and called on them to reject the democratic trap and pursue armed struggle. In February 2007 he attacked the Mecca Agreement between Fatah and Hamas, and in March declared that Hamas had “surrendered most of Palestine to the Jews, sold the Palestinian issue, and sold shari’a in order to retain leadership of the Palestinian government.” In June 2007 he called on Hamas to “correct your path.” Just last week, the leading Jordanian jihadist theoretician Abu Mohammed al-Maqdisi (thanks to Will McCants) complained that “Hamas is misleading Muslims with its glittering slogans, which blind people to their wayward goals and strategies, leading them down the path of criminals… [and] Hamas started the bloodshed in Gaza several weeks ago when it killed members of the Army of Islam organization.”

    From al-Qaeda’s perspective, therefore, Israel’s assault on Gaza is an unmitigated blessing. The images flooding the Arab and world media have already discredited moderates, fueled outrage, and pushed the center of political gravity towards more hard-line and radical positions. As in past crises, Islamists of all stripes are outbidding each other, competing to “lead” the popular outrage, while “moderates” are silent or jumping on the bandwagon. Governments are under pressure, most people are glued to al-Jazeera’s coverage (and, from what anyone can tell, ignoring stations that don’t offer similar coverage), the internet is flooded with horrifying images, and people are angry and mobilized against Israel, the United States, and their own governments. That’s the kind of world al-Qaeda likes to see.

    http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/node/14962

  47. paul the sour 48

    God, yes. Poland’s Jews were, after all, being armed in secret by Britain and using those weapons to kill and maim innocent Nazis and their families. That’s why Israelis are so suspicious whenever a rocket lands in their yards, fired by a Hamas ghetto-inhabitant. They see these trivial incidents through the lens of their own historical crimes.

    “Embarked on the starvation of the inhabitants” – yes, those relief convoys the Israelis sent through were packed with zero nutrient goods, items that trick your body into thinking you’re eating food while you starve to death. Worse than smallpox blankets, that. And in the market during the cease fire, all those shoppers were actually getting more of the same mock-food. And the UN warehouses passing wares out by the wheelbarrow? Almost all of that was GM rice (and we know what THAT does to the consumer).

    Jews fighting back. Horror.

  48. Felix 49

    paul you’re absolutely right. They should be grateful. They wouldn’t survive in the wild so they’ve been well looked after innit. They all look like terrorists anyway. Have to break a few eggs an that eh?

  49. Quoth the Raven 50

    TR – Don’t forget the nomadic Bedouin people forced to live sedentary lives in ghettos in Israel. The state hardly bothering to provide them with basics such as water and healthcare all in their own land which they aren’t allowed to move around in anymore.

  50. Bill 51

    Strikes me that a debate within the confines of the left about Gaza would be interesting and while probably confrontational would be educational. That the right have NOTHING coherent to say, while not entirely unexpected is, IMO deeply, deeply sad.

    All I’m learning from the various comments from the right is how fathomless their pit of intellectual and moral bankruptcy is.

  51. lukas 52

    Bill… have you read a single post by Randal, Rave or Trave… sure the right have Dad, but…flip.

  52. Felix 53

    Past your bedtime lukey. Chop chop.

    Or you could refute Bill’s statement by pointing to a comment on this thread from a rightie who has ANY understanding of middle eastern affairs or history and has added ANYTHING of value to the discussion.

    Night then.

  53. Peter Burns 54

    dad is banned from here lukas because big bruv said so.
    hi big bruv, your intense hatred is sooooooooooooooooooooo obvious creepster.
    got a real name big blouse?

  54. Stever 55

    One sad but, I suppose, not surprising result of all this is the signs of a revival of extreme reactions by people in “the West”, as reported here.

  55. randal 56

    peter burns
    he’s actualy a announcer for radio spud
    thats his deep cover

  56. Dr.Strangelove 57

    Is outofbed’s post meant to suggest that Gerry Brownlee is the new Pretender ?

    If not, then let’s name names .. John Key is missing in action which leaves Murray McCully.

    Cheers.

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    3 days ago
  • Simon Bridges can’t connect
    We all know that Simon Bridges has, at the best of times, an intermittent relationship with the truth. However you would think that during a pandemic and economic crisis the current opposition leader would pull his head in and start to do the right thing.Obviously leading by example should be ...
    3 days ago
  • Anti-fluoridation propaganda now relies on only four studies. 3: Riddell et al (2019)
    Connett promotes Riddell et al (2019) as one of the only four studies one needs to read about fluoridation. But he misunderstands and misrepresents the findings of this study. Image credit: Fluoride Action ...
    3 days ago
  • Could the Atlantic Overturning Circulation ‘shut down’?
    This is a re-post from Carbon Brief by Dr. Richard Wood and Dr. Laura Jackson Generally, we think of climate change as a gradual process: the more greenhouse gases that humans emit, the more the climate will change. But are there any “points of no return” that commit us to irreversible ...
    3 days ago
  • The biggest challenge for a generation ahead – covid-19. Defeat and Recovery
    Last month I wrote my blog on covid-19 pointing out the in our pre Alert Level 4 days that a subject no one had heard here months ago was now dominating the media. An amazing feature of this crisis is how quickly it has swept every other issue aside worldwide. ...
    PunditBy Wyatt Creech
    4 days ago
  • Testing for COVID-19 in NZ to Achieve the Elimination Goal
    Nick Wilson,1 Ayesha Verrall,1,2 Len Cook,3 Alistair Gray,3 Amanda Kvalsvig,1 Michael Baker,1 (1epidemiologists, 2infectious disease physician, 3statisticians) In this blog, we raise ideas for how New Zealand might optimise testing to both identify cases in the community as part of the COVID-19 elimination strategy, and to confirm when the virus ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    4 days ago
  • Should we all be wearing face masks to prevent Covid-19 spread?
    Maybe you’ve seen the graph that says those countries where everyone wears a mask are the ones that have managed to keep Covid-19 under control? The first thing to say about that claim is that those countries also did lots of other things, too – they acted fast, with intense ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    4 days ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #14
    Story of the Week... Editorial of the Week... Toon of the Week... Coming Soon on SkS... Climate Feedback Claim Review... SkS Week in Review... Poster of the Week... Story of the Week... North Atlantic's capacity to absorb CO2 overestimated, study suggests Research into ocean’s plankton likely to lead to ...
    4 days ago
  • The Americans are trying to kill us all again
    The Treaty on Open Skies is one of the most effective mechanisms for preventing war curently in force. By letting countries make surveillance flights over each others' territory, it eliminates fears that they are secretly preparing for war. So naturally, the US is planning to withdraw from it: The Trump ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 11
    . . April 5: Day eleven of living in lock-down… My one day of rest for the week, and an opportunity to mow my lawns – which I’d been delaying for about three weeks. (On the plus side, the damp micro-climate in my back yard yielded three lovely fresh mushrooms ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    4 days ago
  • Now we know what the rules are
    As the lockdown has gone on, disquiet about what the rules were and the police's enforcement of them has grown. On Friday, Police admitted that they were abusing routine traffic stops to effectively set up illegal checkpoints, and on Saturday Stuff revealed internal police advice saying that they actually needed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Anti-fluoridation propaganda now relies on only four studies. 2: Green et al (2019)
    Paul Connett is putting all his eggs in one basket. He says “you only have to read four studies” to find community after fluoridation harmful. Image credit: Fluoride Action Network newsletter. For part 1 of this series see Anti-fluoridation propaganda now relies on only four studies. 1: Bashash et al (2018). Paul Connett, ...
    4 days ago
  • Hard News: Splore Listening Lounge 2020: the road to a “yes” vote
    As far as anyone can say, New Zeaand still has a general election scheduled for September 19 this year. The election will be accompanied by two referenda, one of which will ask voters:Do you support the proposed Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill?The official campaign period for the cannabis referendum begins ...
    4 days ago
  • Obituary for The New Zealand Listener (1939-2020)
    The vast majority of tributes to the Listener hearken back to its glory days, with little reflection on the magazine as it was at its end.I wrote for it, for half the Listener’s life; I have known personally all the editors except the first (mythical) three. From 1978 to 2014 ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    4 days ago
  • Universal income – a challenge to capitalism or a crutch?
    As the world economy slides rapidly towards deep recession there are growing calls for a Universal Benefit coming from some leftists and rightists. Now Finance Minister Grant Robertson is saying it is on the table.  This article by a French party Workers Struggle provides analysis of various forms of universal ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Anti-fluoridation propaganda now relies on only four studies. 1: Bashash et al (2018)
    This is the advice from the very top of the anti-fluoride movement – Paul Connett, director of the Fluoride Action Network (FAN). Don’t worry about reading  up on all the scientific information “You only have ...
    5 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 10
    . . April 4: Day 10 of living in lock-down… I wake up to a fine Saturday morning which normally would be like an early Christmas. But it’s Day 10 of Level 4 Lock Down. What  will my fellow New Zealanders be doing on a day like this – staying ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Redline reaching out to more writers & readers
    Some time during the night we went over the 850,000 views mark. We might have had our millionth view by the end of this year – certainly by early next year. Most of the people involved in Redline spent years and years producing various small left-wing papers and selling them ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Keir Starmer elected
    Comfortably, in the very first round, with an impressive 56% of the votes.I wonder, did members of the Shadow Cabinet start tweeting their resignations during Starmer's victory speech, or is that only a trick the right pull?It is odd how all the talk of how the next leader "needs to ...
    5 days ago
  • Hard News: Michael Baker and the Big House
    One of the key voices in this extraordinary time in which we live is that of University of Otago epidemiologist Professor Michael Baker. Philip Matthews did an an excellent job this weekend of capturing the way he became the man for this moment in a profile for The Press.But one ...
    5 days ago
  • New Zealand Gives up on Trying to Save Daylight
    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern addressed the nation today about the decline in daylight New Zealand has been experiencing over the previous few months. She said “As many of you will notice, our attempts to stem the dwindling of the daylight over the last few months have been completely ...
    Can of wormsBy Can of Worms, Opened
    6 days ago
  • A bulletin from Greece
    Redline received this article from the KOE a Marxist party in Greece Our friends in the KOE describe here the mounting crisis in Greece and tensions on the Turkish border. As desperate people flee from their homelands which have been ruined after decades of imperialist wars and interventions the people ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • And God spake all these words, saying
    As the first week of Level Four lockdown unfolded, mounting questions grew as to just what was (and was not) allowed under its “rules”. Partly these were driven by some apparently contradictory messages from different authority figures and explanations carried in the media. Partly they reflected a somewhat sketchy legal basis ...
    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    6 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 9
    . . April 3: Day 9 of living in lock-down… Another late-start to my work day. Everything is temporarily upended as clients are shuffled around so we can minimise our “bubble” by reducing the number of people we help. One of my colleagues has been removed from his clients; his ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    6 days ago
  • Death to our lockdown enemies!
    We must root out the traitors among us! ...
    Imperator FishBy Scott Yorke
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: The benefits of electrification
    In order to meet our 2050 carbon target and do our bit to avoid making the Earth uninhabitable, New Zealand needs to decarbonise our economy, replacing fossil fuels with electricity in the energy, industrial and transport sectors. The good news is that it will mean cheaper power for all of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 8 (sanitised version)
    For those folk who find my other Lock-Down Diary versions too “negative” or otherwise unpalatable… Here’s a photo of a pretty flower, .   . Better? Tomorrow’s Sanitised Version: a cute animal video. . . . =fs= ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    7 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 8
    . . April 2: Day eight of living in lock-down… Today, my work day starts late. Our rosters and clients have been dramatically changed, lessening (theoretically) the number of people in our work “bubble”.  If just one of us catches covid19 the impact could be considerable as Grey Base Hospital ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    7 days ago
  • A note on apartments and bubbles
    As Aotearoa enters week two of lockdown, it’s clear we’re all still working out what our “bubbles” look like and how to stay in them to stop the spread of Covid-19. New to the government’s Covid-19 website is some good guidance for people living in apartment blocks. Recent decades have ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    7 days ago
  • Getting in futures shape 
    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” Lenin Don’t we all know that feeling now.

    Prospect Magazine alerted me to this particularly apt quote. It is a much more evocative quote than Hemingway’s “gradually then suddenly” which is also doing ...

    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    1 week ago
  • Maybe axing Clark would be unfair. But what about any of this is fair?
    Yesterday was the day the consequences of the lockdown suddenly got very real for many. Firms have been closing and laying people off since the outset of the quarantine but this has mostly been happening out of the public eye. The mass closure of a number of iconic New Zealand ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Might a ‘Coasean’ social contract mitigate overall societal harm from COVID-19?
    Brian Williamson1, Prof Nick Wilson2 (1Economic consultant, UK; 2University of Otago Wellington) In this blog, we outline how a win-win social contract could be forged to address the major dimensions of response to the COVID-19 pandemic when using a mitigation strategy: the particular need to protect older people from high ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Returning To “Normalcy”.
    Resuming Normal Service: The Republican Party's nominee for in 1920, Warren Harding, promised the American people: “not heroics, but healing; not nostrums, but normalcy; not revolution, but restoration”. If she wishes to remain our prime minister, then Jacinda Ardern will offer New Zealanders the same.HOW EDUCATED AMERICA snickered when the ...
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand’s Government Must Save New Zealand’s Media.
    No Free Society Without A Free And Functioning News Media: If we are to surrender our civil rights to the broader cause of defeating Covid-19, then foreign corporations must, likewise, surrender their right to inflict immense economic and cultural harm on New Zealanders simply because it improves their bottom line.I’M ...
    1 week ago
  • Corona fevers and the madness of models
    by Daphna Whitmore A third of the world is under lockdown and a clear assessment of this measure to curb the spread of COVID-19 is urgently needed.  With any high-stakes decisions it has to be asked what are we dealing with here? Are the measures warranted? Will they achieve their ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Lockdown day 8
    I haven’t done a huge amount in the last few days. I’m reading The Poppy War and I’ve sort of poked at a couple of games – I started SOMA but I’m a wimp and I quit while in the first room after the brain scan. I might try it ...
    The little pakehaBy chrismiller
    1 week ago
  • Backstage and Theatre
    The swan politicians may be gliding on the water, occasionally snapping at one another. Meanwhile, as the Covid19 crisis illustrates, the officials are desperately paddling below providing the real locomotion. One of the most fatuous recent grandstanding comments (of about a week ago), adding to the public’s anxieties, was ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    1 week ago
  • Legal Beagle: Waiver, the singular Crown and the conduct of Crown legal business
    Much has been written about the importance of discretion in an emergency situation, and the concerns raised by the potential for it to be exercised arbitrarily. Given the quality of the discussion, there seemed little point in adding to it at any length. In particular, I point to the evidence ...
    1 week ago
  • Highlights from Bauer Media’s science-related reporting
    Today has felt surreal. I was all set to touch base online with my science communication students when a colleague shared the news that Bauer Media would be shutting down its publications immediately. The first link I saw implied it was Woman’s Weekly affected, and even that shocked me. But ...
    SciBlogsBy Sarah-Jane O'Connor
    1 week ago
  • Outsiders.
    Bogeymen, Real And Imagined: Is the number of psychopathic and sociopathic individuals in any given society truly as vanishingly small as we like to tell ourselves? Isn’t it more likely that the mass-shooters and serial-killers filling the headlines represent only the tip of a much, much larger iceberg of frightfulness? ...
    1 week ago
  • We have a right to know the rules we are expected to obey
    Outgoing Police Commissioner Mike Bush appeared before the Epidemic Response Committee today, who asked him for the rules police are using to enforce the lockdown. He refused:Police Commissioner Mike Bush has admitted the advice given to Kiwis about what they're able to do during the lockdown hasn't been clear enough. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 7 (sanitised version)
    For those folk who find my other Lock-Down Diary versions too “negative” or otherwise unpalatable… Here’s a photo of my cat, . . Better? Tomorrow’s Sanitised Version: a pretty flower. . . . =fs= ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 7
    . . April 1: Day seven of living in lock-down… This morning I had a brief chat with one of my neighbours, “D” (social distance between us, a good three or four metres). I learned he had resigned from his previous job and had been hired by another company – ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • RIP The Listener, New Zealand’s pioneering voice
    Funnily enough, my thought as I start this post is whether it will be well written enough. Or should that be well enough written? Because so much of what I know about good writing came from my two stints at The Listener, which this morning was shut down due to ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    1 week ago
  • OK, Britney: stop sniping at National for doing its job
    With normal democratic procedures in abeyance, there were two ways to go. First, it was open for the government to dissolve itself and invite the National Party to join a ministry of national salvation. That would have lessened the democratic deficit of the times by having a team of rivals without ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Helpful tips for parents during lockdown
    Dr Kirsty Ross Children and young people can respond differently in times of distress. This also varies by age and developmental stage, with younger children having more magical and imaginative thinking, and older children having more awareness and knowledge of the issues our communities are facing (which brings up ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #13, 2020
    1 week ago
  • Hungary is now a dictatorship
    Hungary has been a virtual dictatorship for a decade now, as Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has gradually eroded its democracy. But now, its official, with the passage of an indefinite emergency law allowing rule by decree:Hungary’s parliament has passed a new set of coronavirus measures that includes jail terms for ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A new Ministry of Works
    While the economy is on pause under lockdown, the government is beginning to plan how to cope with the post-lockdown, post-tourism, post-export education world we will eventually find ourselves in. They're planning a lot of infrastructure spending as economic stimulus, and have asked for proposals which can start the moment ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Capture: Well spaced out
    It's my distraction,  setting up tiny scenes to photograph.  I've got stuck on the Babushka dolls for now.  Something about their bubble shape.  Something about their never changing, smiling features, suggesting persistent equanimity.  Can we get through everything that is being thrown at us and keep at least a tiny ...
    1 week ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 6
    . . March 31: Day six of living in lock-down… This time I managed to sleep a little longer and the alarm woke me at the pre-set time: 6.55am. Then remembered I was working a later shift and could’ve slept in. Oh well, there are things to do at home. ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • March ’20 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
    Image credit: Diamond Harbour School Blogs I notice a few regulars no longer allow public access to the site counters. This may happen accidentally when the blog format is altered. If your blog is unexpectedly missing or ...
    1 week ago
  • Hard News: Poll Pot and the partisans
    Yesterday's Horizon poll showing support for a "Yes" vote in this year's cannabis referendum sliding into the majority for the first time in a year looked like good news for reformers – and it probably is. But the result warrants some scrutiny.The poll is the fifth in a series commissioned ...
    1 week ago
  • Why those bubbles are so important
    For almost a week now, every one of us who isn’t an essential worker has been confined to their bubble. We are allowed to go shopping for groceries, to visit the doctor, and to get a bit of exercise if we stay local. The reason we are doing this is ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    1 week ago
  • A Government System That Works
    The Covid-19 saga will no doubt produce many twists and turns for us before it is finally brought to an end. But one thing it has shown us – and what comfort it should bring us – is that our country’s government is in good hands. I am not thinking ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • Smashing down the barriers: Where are we at with COVID vaccines?
    In the absence of a vaccine or a cure for a deadly disease, staying home in your bubble is what you do, the concept is not new.  To the best of my knowledge last time we did this in NZ was for polio, in the years before a vaccine came ...
    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    1 week ago

  • Decisions made on urgent turf maintenance
    The Sport and Recreation Minister Grant Robertson has announced that urgent maintenance of turf and care for plants in non-plantation nurseries will soon be able to go ahead under Level 4 restrictions. “The Government has agreed that urgent upkeep and maintenance of biological assets will be able to go ahead ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • Acknowledging an extraordinary te reo champion
    E tangi ana a Taranaki iwi, e tangi ana te ao Māori, otirā e tangi ana te motu. Mōu katoa ngā roimata e riringi whānui ana, mōu katoa ngā mihi.   E te kaikōkiri i te reo Māori, e Te Huirangi, takoto mai. Takoto mai me te mōhio ko ngā ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago
  • Prime Minister’s remarks halfway through Alert Level 4 lockdown
    Today is day 15 of Alert Level 4 lockdown. And at the halfway mark I have no hesitation in saying, that what New Zealanders have done over the last two weeks is huge. In the face of the greatest threat to human health we have seen in over a century, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago
  • Licenses, WoFs and regos extended under lockdown
    All driver licences, WoFs, CoFs, and some vehicle certifications, that expired on or after 1 January 2020 will be valid for up to six months from 10 April 2020, Transport Minister Phil Twyford has announced. “People shouldn’t have to worry about getting fined for having an expired document if driving ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago
  • Inquiry report into EQC released
    The Government has today released the report from the Public Inquiry into the Earthquake Commission chaired by Dame Silvia Cartwright.  Minister Responsible for the Earthquake Commission Grant Robertson says the Government wants to learn from people’s experiences following the Canterbury earthquakes and other recent natural disasters. “Dame Silvia’s report documents ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago
  • More time for health workers and elderly to get flu vaccine
    The Government has extended by two weeks till April 27 the amount of time priority groups, such as health workers and those aged over 65, have to get their flu vaccine before it is made available to the wider public. This year’s vaccination campaign is a key component of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Communities step up to help New Zealanders stay connected and fed during lockdown
    Communities stepping up to help New Zealanders stay at home to break the transmission of COVID-19 and save lives have received Government support, said Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni. “Delivering groceries for the elderly who can’t shop online, providing data packs for low income families to keep them connected, and being ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • 120 COVID-19 testing centres now operating
    Across New Zealand 120 sites are taking samples to be tested for COVID-19.   68 community based assessment centres (CBACs) have been established to take samples from people with COVID-19 symptoms. Alongside this, 52 other centres including designated general practices, swabbing centres, and mobile clinics are now testing people for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Covid19: Government moving quickly to roll out learning from home
    The Ministry of Education is working with partners to develop a package of options so that students can learn at home when Term 2 begins on 15 April, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. Supports are also being prepared for households with children under five, to help parents and whānau ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Making learning from home accessible to Māori learners and whānau
    Māori Television to begin educational te reo programmes Ki te Ao Mārama – a new online learning space Thousands of hard copy learning packs ready for distribution Helpdesk and advice service for kōhanga, kura and wharekura Television, the internet and hard copy learning packs are some of the ways whānau ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand to provide assistance to Vanuatu following Tropical Cyclone Harold
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has announced an initial package of support to help the people and the Government of Vanuatu respond to the impact of Tropical Cyclone Harold. “Our Pacific neighbours have been hit by a Category 5 Cyclone at the same time as dealing with the economic impacts ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Planning for the future of tourism
    Tourism New Zealand to lead work reimagining the way tourism operates in post-COVID-19 world. Ministers to review International Visitor Conservation and Tourism Levy investment plan. The Government, industry and business are working together to develop a plan for how tourism will operate in a post-COVID-19 world, Tourism Minister Kelvin Davis ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • NZ horticulture sector feeding Kiwis and the world during COVID-19
    More New Zealanders are taking up the chance to work in horticulture as the sector keeps New Zealanders fed and in jobs during the COVID-19 Alert Level 4 lockdown. “Our horticulture sector has long been one of New Zealand’s export star performers, contributing around $6 billion a year to our ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Work to repurpose PGF funds begins
    The Provincial Development Unit is working through applications and projects to see where Provincial Growth Fund money can be repurposed for initiatives deemed more critical to fighting the economic impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones says. “We need to be throwing everything we have at ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • A million workers supported by Govt wage subsidy
    The Government’s wage subsidy to protect jobs and keep workers and businesses connected during the lockdown has now supported over a million New Zealanders, with $6.6 billion already paid out. “We’re supporting businesses to pay wages, and stay connected with their workers so that we are all in a better ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government helps Pacific communities fight COVID
    The Government is stepping up efforts to help protect New Zealand’s Pacific communities in the fight against COVID-19. Cabinet has agreed that $17 million will be allocated to support a COVID-19 Pacific Response Package, which will: Support Pacific health and disability services facing increased demand; Ramp up public health messaging ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Statement from the Prime Minister on Dr David Clark
    “Yesterday evening the Health Minister advised me of his trip to a beach during the lockdown and offered his resignation,” Jacinda Ardern said.  “Under normal conditions I would sack the Minister of Health. What he did was wrong, and there are no excuses.  “But right now, my priority is our ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Statement from David Clark
    Last night as part of my preparation for the Epidemic Response Committee, I provided the Prime Minister with a complete picture of my activity outside my home during Alert Level 4.  That included the fact that on the first weekend of the Alert Level 4 lockdown I drove my family ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • COVID-19 mental health support begins
    A range of support is being rolled out across New Zealand to help people look after their mental health during COVID-19 Health Minister David Clark said this morning. “COVID-19 has brought a lot of uncertainty into our lives and many of us will be feeling some level of distress or ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New Zealanders in Peru to be assisted by Government charter flight
    The New Zealand Government has made arrangements to charter a flight for New Zealanders stranded in Peru to depart the country, following agreement with the Chilean government to allow the necessary transit through Chile, Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters announced today. “Like many travellers around the world at the moment, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • COVID-19 Hospital Preparation Well Advanced
    Hospital preparations for COVID-19 are well advanced says Health Minister David Clark. “Hospitals across New Zealand are repurposing buildings and training staff to get ready for COVID-19 patients. This gives me confidence that we are well prepared for any potential increase in COVID-19 patients needing hospital level care,” said David ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Further measures to support businesses
    The Government will be introducing legislation to make changes to the Companies Act to help companies facing insolvency due to COVID-19 to remain viable and keep New Zealanders in jobs. The temporary changes include: Giving directors of companies facing significant liquidity problems because of COVID-19 a ‘safe harbour’ from insolvency ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Govt’s COVID plan, economic strength recognised
    The Government’s plan to cushion the blow of COVID-19 by supporting incomes, jobs and businesses, and position the economy to recover has been backed by another international report. International credit rating agency Moody’s today reaffirmed its highest Aaa credit rating on New Zealand, saying the economy is expected to remain ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Government supports air services to offshore islands
    The Government has stepped in to support vital air links to our offshore islands, the Chatham Islands, Great Barrier Island and Motiti Island, Transport Minister Phil Twyford announced today. “As part of our $600 million support package to minimise the impacts of COVID-19 on the aviation sector, the Government has ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Funding certainty for sports through COVID-19
    National sports organisations have been given certainty of funding to ensure they can remain viable through the COVID-19 pandemic, Sport and Recreation Minister Grant Robertson announced today. “The global spread of COVID-19 has had a significant impact on sport and recreation in New Zealand, including the cancellation or postponement of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Butchers now allowed to process pork
    Changes have been made to allow butchers to process pork, only for supply to supermarkets or other processors or retailers that are open, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor has announced. “We carefully weighed the risk of allowing butchers to open their shops for retail customers, but the risk of spreading COVID-19 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Essential workers leave scheme established
    Essential workers who take leave from work to comply with public health guidance are being supported with a leave scheme to ensure they will continue to receive income, say the Minister of Workplace Relations and Safety Iain Lees-Galloway and Minister for Social Development, Carmel Sepuloni. A number of essential businesses ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt WhatsApp helps share COVID-19 information
    A Government WhatsApp channel has been launched to help make information more easily accessible and shareable in the fight against COVID-19. Govt.NZ, which is free to use on any mobile device, will carry information and news for the public, businesses, healthcare providers, not for profits and local government. It can ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Managed departure plan for stranded foreign nationals enables safe, orderly exit
    The Government has announced a plan to enable the safe, orderly exit of tens of thousands of stranded foreign nationals from New Zealand during the current COVID-19 Alert Level 4 restrictions, Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Winston Peters has said. “When we moved into lockdown a week ago, the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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