The conservative brotherhood

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1. Stephen 1

   29 July 2008 at 12:11 pm

   Heh, I was at a talk on political marketing several days ago, and the Otago Professor who gave the talk showed us the one on the left as an example of one that won awards – not for success, but for impact. Was widely thought to have damaged the conservatives’s cause that year.

   I think the one on the right is more subtle (hard not to be!) but still crude.
2. all_your_base 2

   29 July 2008 at 12:21 pm

   Yeah, apparently a Gallup poll conducted shortly after it ran suggested that even 58% of conservative voters disliked it.
3. randal 3

   29 July 2008 at 12:40 pm

   its pretty crummy allright. straight out of the goebbels portfolio. these guys have lost the plot if they think this is what the elctorate is prepared to accept. the thing is that it is nazism hiding behind conservatism. i.e. criminality hiding behind a legitimate political expression. thats what nazism is.
4. Billy 4

   29 July 2008 at 1:20 pm

   randal just compared a group of NZ politicians to nazis. I expect that, applying their usual even-handedness, the left will come down on him as being an hysterical scumbag for such a comparison.

   I know, I’ll just sit here and wait for that to opprobrium to manifest itself.
5. barnsleybill 5

   29 July 2008 at 1:21 pm

   while the goebells portfolio is on the table where do you geniuses think fake eviction notices to state house tenants fit?
6. Robinsod 6

   29 July 2008 at 1:26 pm

   Billy – I think randal is protected by the same opprobrium caveat that d4j is.
7. Billy 7

   29 July 2008 at 1:38 pm

   That’s OK, I was just worried you guys couldn’t see that randall was the D4J of the left. Now that’s accepted and understood accross the political spectrum, I feel much better.

   [lprent: Trait is ‘mostly harmless’ because they tend not to start flamewars. They get involved in them, but I’m uninterested in having flamewars here anyway. ]
8. randal 8

   29 July 2008 at 2:53 pm

   billy seems unable to accept straight talking. he does not understand or pretends to not understand what calling a spade a spade means and uses the ad hominem attack. he wants to withdraw certain definitions from the debate by claiming that they are offensive instead of examining them for the truth. nazism is a definable political tendency and must be exposed for what it is when it rears its ugly head.
9. Phil 9

   29 July 2008 at 4:05 pm

   ayb draws another long bow, takes aim at National and it’s ‘friends’, misses by a mile.

   It would pay to keep in mind that an ad with black, white, and one colour is a lot cheaper to print than a multi-coloured one. The EMA are fiscally rational after all, and what better colour than red?

   This is the kind of conspiracist coincidence tripe I’ve come to expect of Trav, but TheStandard is getting close. It’s a bit like saying “Alistair Darling has the same eyebrows as Stalin, therefore he’s a communist.
10. Tane 10

    29 July 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Phil, having seen their ads I’m pretty sure the EMA logo at the bottom is in full colour.

    Plus, I’m not sure if the papers still do spot colour for a half page.

    Also, I suspect ayb was largely having a laugh while pointing out the uncanny resemblence.
11. Steve Pierson 11

    29 July 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Phil. You’re so sure of yourself for someone who hasn’t even seen the ad. It’s in full colour. the EMA logo is multi-colour.
12. barnsleybill 12

    29 July 2008 at 4:39 pm

    as were the fake eviction notices.

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