The nasty government

Written By: - Date published: 12:07 pm, July 26th, 2012 - 21 comments
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National is threatening to veto a Labour bill to extend paid parental leave, claiming it costs too much (they’ve been exaggerating the cost). At the same time, they’re trying to defend writing a blank cheque for looters’ bonuses. And they’re getting nasty about it. Maggie Barry (who has already made headlines by demanding to know what party citizens submitting to select committee support and has proven to be the most stereotypically arrogant, privileged Tory you can imagine) attacked Jacinda Ardern for not having children yet while John Key had a hissy fit at anyone who questioned his looters’ bonuses.

Here’s Barry’s disgraceful behaviour:

Ms Ardern, who is 32 today, said National, which opposes the legislation, was asking people if they “preferred coal or children”.

“Stop subsidising heavy polluters and we can back kids. Build one less road of national significance and we can help kids and their families,” she said. “This Government has proven that their priority is not children.”

Ms Barry, 52, responded by asking: “How many kids do you have?”

The North Shore MP later added: “Don’t be so precious, petal.”

The Opposition side of the House erupted with calls for an apology, which the first-term Government member refused to give.

Labour MP Trevor Mallard later wrote on his Twitter feed: “Shame on Maggie Barry … Women parliamentarians should know better than to criticise each other for not having children.”

Speaking after the debate, Ms Barry, who had her only child in her late 30s, said: “I am not apologising for it. I don’t think it’s a very sensitive issue. Jacinda dishes the dirt as much as any.

National was nasty right from the start of the debate:

The debate opened by Ms Moroney was punctuated by yells of “show us the money” from National MP Nick Smith.

Ms Barry said National was not arguing against the merits of paid parental leave, but the cost.

Her colleague Louise Upston, MP for Taupo, said that “in planet Labour, money seems to grow on trees”.

Closing the debate, Ms Moroney said she hadn’t been prepared for the “venom” that came from National.

“The sheer anger led by Dr Nick Smith and carried on by Maggie Barry was something I wasn’t prepared for. To me it demonstrated an anger towards working families,” she said.

“I thought it was quite ugly. This is coming from a government who were on the wrong side of the class-size issue,” Ms Moroney said.

Meanwhile, John Key, who can’t name the cost of his looters’ bonus free shares and didn’t even know that the government is going to subsidise looters by paying the stockbrokers’ fees, went into a tizzy when questioned about it:

Dr Russel Norman: Well, is he aware that there is $56 million in the Budget primarily to pay brokerage fees to the selling syndicate; and why is it fair for all taxpayers to cover the brokerage fees of the 5 percent?

Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I would need to check that matter. I am sure the member is probably incorrect in the assumption he is making.

Of course, it was Key who was wrong.

Dr Russel Norman: Given that the Government has failed to convince New Zealanders of the arguments around asset sales, as shown by every major opinion poll, is that because the Government actually does not have very good reasons, and his approach now is to say “Rubbish!” to anyone who disagrees with him, and to tell the people of New Zealand: “We are simply going to force it down your throat.” in a Muldoonist way, just like previous National Governments have?

Rt Hon JOHN KEY: There are many analogies one could draw with me, but Muldoon is probably not one of them

Weird, wasn’t Muldoon Key’s hero?

Of course, with the biggest borrowing binge in history and the worst growth record in 50 years+, I guess it would be unfair to compare Key’s record of utter failure to Muldoon’s record a stagnant economy and excessive borrowing fuelled by a massive round of tax cuts.

21 comments on “The nasty government”

  1. tc 1

    Accurate graphic, I’ve always thought of Shonkey as the smiling smoother 21st century rendition of Piggy Muldoon and just like Piggy their wreckless approach is decimating areas to the point we may not be able to build them back up regardless of effort/money and time such as flogging our power generators off, losses from trades/teachers/lecturers/justice/medical and other areas.

    Muldoon just about bankupted NZ and this mob inherited nett zero crown debt and look where we are now. If you factor in the dodgy off balance sheet derivatives it’s a spectacular effort that only a banker and his backers could be proud of.

    • Populuxe1 1.1

      How can you compare Muldoon with Key? Muldoon built infrastructure, supported welfare and for all his many mistakes actually had the good of New Zealand citizens at heart. He was a statesman (a flawed and occasionally quasi-fascist statesman, but a statesman nonetheless). Key is a superficial smiley smiling creep playacting politician. Can you honestly imagine Muldoon selling off our assets? You clearly need to read a bit of history.

  2. Tom Gould 2

    Key’s little fire-sale gambit is falling apart, yet the indolent craven Gallery giggle at his jokes and cover up for him, and write up the opposition parties as ineffective to compensate. They did the same with Muldoon, until he turned on them. Even then, the big Tories amongst them stayed true blue.

  3. Dv 3

    AND Muldoon stuffed the super scheme started by Labour.

  4. fender 4

    “Don’t be so precious, petal”

    Clearly Maggie Barry has inhaled too much manure when in the garden, her head is full of shit.

    It’s kind of funny how National have so many low calibre fools in their ranks, if only the ramifications were not so serious for the country.

    • Chris 4.1

      I think they are all graduates of Low Calibre School where they all had to study and study to actually qualify as a Low Calibre Fool. I think some of them were even to dense to qualify as an LCF. As for maggie barrys incisive rapier like wit with her pathetic standard 3 type comment, well she has none. She must have got tired of never being on the telly and this is all she could come up with.Nearly as bad tolley trying to score off Shearer by some odd references to Dr Seuss(?) and being lonely.She was no good at it and kept fluffing her lines(lies)Hilarious silly little woman!

  5. Tracey 5

    I can understand his admiration for Muldoon, he’s behaving very like him these days with his “my way or the highway” type leadership.

  6. mike e 6

    Rugby mentality!
    Bullying is rife amongst the population !
    we are told to get on with it and get over it thats the underlying reason we have a high suicide , premature child death rate, family violence rate etc etc.
    Thats why Muldoon was liked rugby racing and beer.
    Now its rugby pokies and any type of alcohol!

  7. Rosie 7

    Oh God, I only do this rarely but its time to pull out the “are you serious?!” face

    http://rober-raik.deviantart.com/art/Are-you-serious-Girl-263034646

    What is up with Tory girl Barry? Why does she always say such daft things? Being a smart arse to Jacina Ardern for not having children (Whether by choice or just not yet) is reminiscent of all that crap Helen Clark got for not having children. It is such a prejudiced and gender stereotypical stance to take. There’s a book by Theresa Riley that would be educational for Barry. Its called “Childfree in New Zealand: How couples who choose not to have children are perceived”.
    She can read that then go apologise to Jacinda Ardern.

  8. The Woodpecker 8

    Shouldn’t someone who has a child be more sympathetic on this issue than someone who hasn’t? Just more “push out the boat Joe”.

    • Carol 8.1

      Why, Woody? Not all parents are good parents. Not all parents bother to spend very much time with their kids. Some pay others to do most of the child-rearing.

      But, apart from the fact that paid parental leave has very broad implications for the society we all live in, and the fact that it may have an impact on all employers and employees, the people who it will have most impact on are children…… and we’ve all been children.

    • Rosie 8.2

      Woody woodpecker:

      Amazingly, we’re not all self interested. As Carol points out, (8.1) “we we’ve all been children and paid parental leave does have broad implications for the society we all live in”. Those of us without children, like anyone, are interested in what benefits society and paid parental leave is one of those things. Most of us who are either child free or child less, depending on your view, have families and friends with kids and we take part in the lives of those close to us who are doing the important job of raising kids. Being child free doesn’t mean you lack “sympathy for the issue”.

      Your statement is just as ignorant and offensive as Maggie Barry’s.

      • The Woodpecker 8.2.1

        My appologies Rosie. I was comparing Ms Barrys comments (attack?) on Ms Ardern. I seems to me someone whos been there (had a child/children) would be more compassionate.
        I’ll go back to my corner now.

        • Kotahi Tāne Huna 8.2.1.1

          “…more compassionate.”

          Assuming compassion is what’s required (as opposed to evidence-based policy, for example), I’m not sure your premise holds outside of middle-class conceit.

        • tracey 8.2.1.2

          i got what you meant. Barrys comment sonehow implied ms adern was anti parents and children. Her stance on ppl makes a mockery of the implication. Odd indeed. Can labour start calling out show us the mobey every time the loyalty bonus is mentioned? Or, we hear alot of rhetoric but no figures…

        • tracey 8.2.1.3

          By this logic, barry can comment on divorse but not the sanctity of marriage… Accordingly her gay marriage vote ought to be interesting.

          The pm says he will vote on gm according to his electorates wishes… But wait, by voting him in didnt they give him a mandate, or is he going to hold a referendum in hellensville?

  9. Rosie 9

    Thanks Mr Woodpecker. Theres no need to go into a corner. Corners are uncomfortables places to be in. Maggie Barry did indeed attack Jacinda Ardern. Without repeating what I’ve already said above I’d just like to add this -don’t believe for a minute that one who hasn’t had a child lacks compassion for the issue of paid parental leave. Its this kind of assumption that is so annoying in society.
    All that aside, the article was discussing bad behaviour by the National Party, in parliament. Namely Maggie Barry and JK. The comment by Maggie Barry was just one of her demented outbursts so far in her short worklife as an MP but a dissapointing one none the less. Its like she went to an Alisdair Thompson class on “Understanding the the rights and roles of Women in the 21st century”. Epic fail.

  10. Tutake 10

    Why didn’t Labour initiate parental leave on this level when it had surpluses? Why didn’t they raise the minimum wage for that matter? Why was it when we had surpluses under Labour, our current account deficit from 2004-2008 was the worst it has been since 1990?

    • Te Reo Putake 10.1

      Interesting questions. Shame you don’t seem to know the answers. Clue: they’re not what you seem to think they are.

    • felix 10.2

      What do you mean “Why didn’t they raise the minimum wage“?

      Are you from another dimension?

      Do you want a list of the things Labour spent surpluses on?

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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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