Then there were three

Written By: - Date published: 3:54 pm, February 14th, 2018 - 39 comments
Categories: Amy Adams, national, Nikki Kaye, same old national - Tags: ,

Is there anyone in National’s caucus not wanting to be leader?

Amy Adams has just announced, and by the looks of the support she had (Nikki Kaye, Maggie Barry, Tim Macindoe, and Chris Bishop) she is representing the liberal wing of the party. Bishop’s appearance goes to show that claims that the recent attack on him was organised by Labour is completely wrong. This was a blue on blue attack and we are seeing an intense struggle for control of the National Party.

This could get very interesting …

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  1. Puckish Rogue 1
    14 February 2018 at 4:04 pm

    “Bishop’s appearance goes to show that claims that the recent attack on him was organised by Labour is completely wrong.”

    Nope, he took my advice not to run at such an early stage wait instead for him to make his move post 2020

    • roy 1.1
      14 February 2018 at 4:23 pm

      “he took my advice”
      Choice story, mate.

      • Puckish Rogue 1.1.1
        14 February 2018 at 4:25 pm

        I’m on a roll don’t you know, Jude listened to my advice and is standing and the Bish took mine and isn’t

        Earning my pay this week I can tell you

        • AB 1.1.1.1
          14 February 2018 at 5:33 pm

          Well done PR – solid effort. Nice to see a Tory actually working for their money for a change,

  2. Enough is Enough 2
    14 February 2018 at 4:34 pm

    “Is there anyone in National’s caucus not wanting to be leader?”

    We have 3 out of their 56 MPs in the race. I’m guessing there are a dozen or three who don’t want to be leader.

    • alwyn 2.1
      14 February 2018 at 5:43 pm

      It does seem rather a lot, doesn’t it.
      Labour were much more efficient.
      When that Little fellow became leader there were all of 32 in their caucus and only four stood.
      Hmm. On that basis National should have at least 7 standing.
      Somehow I don’t think Mickysavage was very good at maths when he was at school.

  3. Kat 3
    14 February 2018 at 4:52 pm

    The coalition govt is going to have to do something pretty stupid not to be back in 2020 and with the current leadership that is just not going to happen. Much to the chagrin of the blue camp this is the reality. The blue supporters will of course deny it with prophesies and scenarios of pending political doom for the coalition. Long may they experience these wet dreams.

    That means a shot for the blue team in 2023, but then unless the coalition or the Labour/Green vote collapses that is a no goer also. So its 2026 before whoever is the Nats leader at the time has a possible odds on chance at becoming PM.

    So it could be said that the likes of Collins, Bridges, Adams and whoever else throws their hat into the bubbling chalice are really just good sports intent on providing the fourth estate plenty of opposition entertainment material over the next nine “long” years.

    • Thinkerrr 3.1
      14 February 2018 at 10:10 pm

      My opinion re 2020 election:

      Nz1 will be the decider again, but in a different way.

      If Peters doesnt seek reelection, support for NZ1 will drop significantly, possibly under the 5% threshhold.

      If that gappens, the next winner will be the party that the majority of NZ1 defectors goes to, because their votes wiill stay in the game.

      So, without Winston, NZ1 had better look like a centre-right party, so all the voters who change their allegiance and thereby stay in the game bolster the left.

  4. Muttonbird 4
    14 February 2018 at 4:54 pm

    Did the Trout and Brudges have people with them when they announced?

  5. mary_a 5
    14 February 2018 at 4:54 pm

    This Natz leadership challenge is a biggie and Collins will go for it with all she’s got, right down to crushing whoever gets in her way.

    This time around boa constrictor Collins will have a crush to die for!

  6. Drowsy M. Kram 6
    14 February 2018 at 6:17 pm

    Warning: National party leadership candidates

  7. Tamati Tautuhi 7
    14 February 2018 at 7:36 pm

    Crusher will be going in balls and all, watch out anyone who gets in her way.

  8. Ad 8
    14 February 2018 at 8:42 pm

    Amy Adams isn’t worthy to be the grit fired out under Judith’s 0-to-100-in-7 wheels.

    The kids will go for Bridges, the blokes and the base for Collins.

    Collins is a mensch.

  9. Drowsy M. Kram 9
    14 February 2018 at 9:03 pm

    Collins? A mensch? Her record of unethical behaviour as a minister of the Crown disqualifies her from that descriptor. Unmensch, maybe; mensch – never!

    http://www.thepaepae.com/the-chisholm-inquiry-who-was-actually-on-trial/36207/

    http://pundit.co.nz/content/spinning-the-return-of-judith-collins

    • Pat 9.1
      14 February 2018 at 9:50 pm

      those disgraceful (and largely forgotten/ignored) actions and connections should be enough to disqualify her from any leadership role and if it dosnt then the media should feel honour bound to confront her with it at every opportunity

    • Muttonbird 9.2
      14 February 2018 at 9:57 pm

      If you hadn’t already noticed; when Ad posts with the green thingy he’s feeling leftish and progressive. When it’s light blue he’s all Machiavellian and destructive.

    • Ad 9.3
      15 February 2018 at 8:01 am

      Nat member insiders like their capital any way it comes. They’re not afraid of a little dirt. It’s the left that worry about hygiene in their politics.

  10. barry 10
    14 February 2018 at 9:25 pm

    Are you going to invite them to write a spiel for TS readers?

  11. paul andersen 11
    14 February 2018 at 10:02 pm

    adams is the least toxic(what a compliment) of the contestants so far confirmed. to humanity and the nat m.p.”s. she may come through as having less enemies in the camp . collins or bridges being chosen would be great sport as either wont have full support with many m.p.”s in the nat party. both of them will spend much energy guarding there backs..good times

    • veutoviper 12.1
      15 February 2018 at 11:14 am

      A good article by Campbell as usual – well worth reading.

    • greywarshark 12.2
      15 February 2018 at 11:17 am

      Thanks for that link Pat. Gordon Campbell wrote a lively little piece there.

      I liked the Collins description (the nuclear option).

      He makes a good case for Joyce and Adams.

      I listened to Adams and Bridges this morning.
      http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018632162/national-leader-vote-chance-for-a-fresh-face-amy-adams 4.10m

      http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018632165/national-leader-vote-bridges-touts-generational-change 6.58m

      I think Adams sounds like a good journeyman and will do a good RW job.
      Simon Bridges had longer, because he waffles more.

      Simon B did a freudian slip when talking about his past misdemeanours (whoops – successes) among them being transport, and I thought something about being ‘in train’ with a project.

      This shows that in the dim recesses of even the most dense brain there is still an understanding that trains are good for movement. That is a hopeful sign to those wanting something different than more roads spaghetti-ing across the countryside, the townside, and the roadside (the authorities can build roads over one another.)
      But whether that thought can be retrieved from Simon’s brain, and nourished to fruition of a sensible project for rail completion …?

      Campbell seems to think that Bridges has a future. Can’t see it except if he is the last one standing.

      If he got in then Bennett couldn’t be deputy, that would be carrying the Maori commitment too far. I think Adams gave positive vibes to Bennett as Deputy but I think she was strong on waiting for a caucus? decision.

      • Pat 12.2.1
        15 February 2018 at 11:18 am

        yes i also heard Bridges shooting himself in both feet…..he puts an awful lot of ‘i’s” into team

  13. adam 13
    15 February 2018 at 12:56 am

    I hope they don’t elect Adam’s. She has a modicum of charisma – so more cult of personality stuff.

  14. Ken 14
    15 February 2018 at 1:17 am

    They might as well just get someone off of Tinder.

  15. Stuart Munro 15
    15 February 2018 at 1:46 am

    It’s a bit like First dog on the Moon says:

    “…When he finally resigns to spend more time with his families he will simply be replaced by another gleaming idiot, another smug vindictive grifter who also believes that the inside track of public life and private school is there to provide him and his slippery mates with jobs for life.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/14/what-happens-after-barnaby-joyce-resigns

    Seems to be as true of Bill’s departure as Barnaby Joyce’s.

  16. greywarshark 16
    15 February 2018 at 11:46 am

    Interesting take on the leadership challenge from Chris Trotter.
    http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2018/02/the-second-coming-of-nationals-rough.html

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