Xena and Sheryl do the dirty on Brownlee

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1. carl 1

   26 April 2010 at 11:28 am

   Well, here’s what the ” blowhole” had to say may be Zena could attaend to this piece of blubber ?

   Green­peace nut­ters and spokes-nutters “Lucy Law­less and Robyn Mal­colm launched the cam­paign at the Punakaiki Pan­cake Rocks just 50 kms south­west of the pro­posed min­ing sites.’
   • Sam 1.1

     26 April 2010 at 3:56 pm

     That I’d love to see.
2. Murray 2

   26 April 2010 at 11:36 am

   I guess with Coal Tar being used extensively in cosmetics, coal could be described as sexy.
   Pretty lame video
   • felix 2.1

     26 April 2010 at 11:53 am

     Say it like you mean it Murray.
3. Fisiani 3

   26 April 2010 at 12:20 pm

   And what would these two know about modern surgical mining?
   • lprent 3.1

     26 April 2010 at 12:27 pm

     By the looks of your previous comments on the subject, I’d have to say that almost anyone knows more about it than you do. You just seem to think of it as a slogan, which you mindlessly repeat with no obvious comprehension.

     But then, in my opinion, you do seem to just be inadequate at this whole debating concept.
   • Lew 3.2

     26 April 2010 at 12:39 pm

     Fisiani, the merits are irrelevant, and they were backgrounded by Brownlee’s “sexy coal” gambit — a (ham-fisted) attempt to distract away from the merits of the coal mining programme, since he knew that fight wasn’t winnable, and needed to redefine it in more acceptable terms. This response continues in that vein, if you’ll excuse the term, with the difference being that it’s silly and funny rather than dully earnest. The only surprise is that it didn’t happen sooner.

     If it was a debate on the merits Brownlee wanted, he could have had one in 2007. Too late now — the issue’s symbolic, propagandised by both sides. That’s a fight he can’t win, either.

     L
   • Nick Young 3.3

     26 April 2010 at 1:52 pm

     Surgical mining is the same as scientific whaling.
     • grumpy 3.3.1

       26 April 2010 at 2:15 pm

       From the BOGOR Bushman’s Exams;

       Q. How do you “selectively log” a forest?

       A. First you “select” a forest, then you “log” it.
     • Maynard J 3.3.2

       26 April 2010 at 2:34 pm

       “Surgical mining is the same as scientific whaling.”

       Is the same as a surgical strike – there’s always collateral damage.
   • Mac1 3.4

     26 April 2010 at 2:21 pm

     “You can have National Parks and mining co-exist in NZ as they do in other countries.’

     Fisiani- still waiting for the examples………….
     • Herodotus 3.4.1

       26 April 2010 at 5:48 pm

       http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/mining-still-possible-doc-land-pike-river-coal-118872
       Here is a current example whereby according to this report it has already been granted
       Labour = National
       From Phil Goff comment on radio a few weeks ago all that is evident are 4 ventilalation shafts of about 1-2m2.
       I am not against mining per se but when we ship off the product for other countries benefit and we are left with a moon landscape or a hole and some petty cash then there is something wrong. How is it that there is the same environmential outcome from burning a m3 of coal, yet we in NZ pay a higher rate (CO2 tax to save the world) than say China?
   • Sam 3.5

     26 April 2010 at 3:57 pm

     About as much as Brownlee, Key, and Wilkinson, I dare say.
   • Samoht 3.6

     26 April 2010 at 7:27 pm

     Surgical mining works like this:
     1) We dig a few small holes in the hill in the national park.
     2) We then proceed to lug a million ton of ore at 3Gram Gold / Ton out of these holes a year.
     3) We then transport that ore away (one 30 ton truck every 2.7 minutes, 5 days a week, 8 hrs a day, with an empty one at the same interval coming back the other way. (based on Waihi Gold Mine annual ore processing consent amount of 1.3 mill ton)
     4) We truck that ore to a place where the sun won’t shine….
     5) We crush that ore and sluice it with cyanide to bind the Gold. Check it out here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_mining#Cyanide_process
     6) Then we dump the millions of tons (minus a few of gold and silver) back into a tailings dam. That dam now contains a toxic slurry of heavy metals from the ore – now finely ground and ready to cause environmental trouble if spilled – plus all that neat Cyanide and sulfuric acid residue.
     7) The millions of tons of slurry will build up fast creating an environmental time bomb.

     8 ) The mining surgeon closes shop before the mine tailings dam reaches the age of trouble… or goes out of business when the Gold price goes down again…
     9) The community then picks up the bill of safe guarding the surgeons mess for the next century or more..
     10) Meanwhile the surgeon has made away with 99% of the Gold leaving 1% as a royalty to the Crown…. yes, the mineral royalty is 1% look it up at the Minerals Act at the ministry of Mining or whatever.
     11) Waihi, Coromandel’s Gold Mining Capital has the highest number of welfare recipients on the peninsula…. great trickle down effect!

     Thats surgical mining for you! Sexy Eh!
4. Demeter 4

   26 April 2010 at 12:30 pm

   These two could know everything there was to know about “modern surgical mining” but arguably it wouldn’t be relevent. Given the location of most of the coal, extraction in Paparoa will likely be by strip mining or open-cast. And in light of Solid Energy confirmation that it’s low quality thermal coal we’re talking about, there’s little doubt they’ll be employing the cheapest means possible.
   • grumpy 4.1

     26 April 2010 at 2:17 pm

     I suspect they would both know a lot about “surgically” something…… (as in enhanced) but mining – definately not.

     Please, no more airhead “celebrities.”
     • mcflock 4.1.1

       26 April 2010 at 5:39 pm

       better than airhead cabinet ministers.
     • angela 4.1.2

       27 April 2010 at 7:01 am

       Its funny you should say that; when Lucy Lawless was 18, her than boyfriend (later married) went to Australia to work at gold mining.

       Its best not to prejudge someone based on little knowledge…
       • grumpy 4.1.2.1

         27 April 2010 at 12:15 pm

         FFS Just because a previous boyfriend worked in a mine – she’s a bloody expert?

         I suppose that because she had a thought once, she’s an expert on brain surgery too?
5. katie may 5

   26 April 2010 at 6:22 pm

   Argh, I realise the intentions were good but that video is exceptionally cringey – like, even manages to out-cringe the very video it is lampooning.
6. Piet 6

   26 April 2010 at 7:35 pm

   That clip made my teeth ache. Never the less, these two have brought a great deal of exposure to the issue, and this clip is far better than anything I could put together…

   The biggest reason I’m against the mining has to do with the sales man advocating it. Keys has proven himself to be a very skilled but unscrupulous sales man who is not working for the New Zealand people. I can not agree to this knowing the type of person handling the fine print… Albert Einstein said it best; Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. If you think this will end in your favor, you are insane.
7. Nick Young 7

   27 April 2010 at 4:27 am

   Check out http://www.dontunderminenz.org for more info on the March Against Mining

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