A healthy dose of reality on prisons

Written By: - Date published: 12:37 pm, March 30th, 2009 - 10 comments
Categories: crime, national/act government - Tags: , , ,

Peter Williams QC was on Breakfast this morning giving a refreshingly frank assessment of the problems with our prison and justice systems – specifically how *not* to solve them:

Our prisons are a complete and absolute disgrace but they’re not going to be helped by privatisiation.

Worth watching.

10 comments on “A healthy dose of reality on prisons”

  1. Kevin Welsh 1

    Where was the smart-arsed comment from Paul Henry?

    I used to think Peter Williams was a bit wishy washy, but that interview really hit home to me. I couldn’t think of a single counter to every point that he put forward.

    [lprent: corrected typo. Couldn’t figure out what you were saying for a second with “hit tome”]

  2. BLiP 2

    It would be interesting to see what other practising barristers have to say abvout this issue. I would say they are far more qualified that that scruffy Act Party oik.

    • Quoth the Raven 2.1

      Practising barristers that I’ve talked to share many of the same sentiments of Peter Williams – that we criminalise too many things, that prisons are in a poor state, that there isn’t enough rehabilitation and people don’t come out of prison as better people and so on. I think Peter Williams talks a lot of sense the kind of sense you aren’t going to hear from idiot conservatives.

      • gingercrush 2.1.1

        What shouldn’t be criminalised besides drugs?


        I wasn’t that impressed. Anyone would think everyone in Mt. Eden doesn’t deserve to be there from what he was saying. He didn’t provide anything against privatisation just that he was ideologically opposed to it.

        • Quoth the Raven

          Ginger – There are all manner of things. For instance do think this guy should have got a conviction? I can think of many many things besides drugs laws like public nudity, vagrancy, copyright, gun control, public drinking and all manner of licensing, registering and so on.

          • gingercrush

            No I wouldn’t like to see that person receive a conviction. Of course euthanasia in some form should be legalised. A number of things you mentioned are very vague. For instance what parts of gun control. Or do you believe people should have access to any type of weaponary.

      • BLiP 2.1.2

        Just as I suspected.

        And I doubt you would call your practising barrister contacts a cadre of bleeding heart liberals, either??

        Thanks QtR.

        • Quoth the Raven

          I wouldn’t use the term bleeding heart liberal but I can’t say I have too many friends who’d consider themselves conserative, as you’d imagine.

  3. randal 3

    hey dudes
    cut to the chase
    they have been lining up their share parcels and patronage for a long time now
    who cares if they work properly or nit as long as they are getting a regular coupon to clip

  4. Quoth the Raven 4

    Ginger – I’m sure lawyers know much more about the law than me when they talk about which things should or shouldn’t be criminalised. Of course that list is just my opinion. I’ll readily admit I don’t know much about the law.
    I don’t support gun control. I’m a reformer though and if they got rid of gun control laws tomorrow that would have some terrible consequences. These weapons are usually created for the state by the state and it is states that use them to their most terrible end.

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