Asset sales could be delayed a year or more

Written By: - Date published: 8:35 am, August 7th, 2012 - 52 comments
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Unusual and inappropriate” – that’s how the Waitangi Tribunal has described National’s ‘report by August 24th or we’ll ignore you’ ultimatum. Imagine if you or I were party to a court case and tried that! Now, the Tribunal is going to deliver a truncated report before that deadline and the full one in September. This is going to the courts. Injunctions will delay the sale.

National has handled this terribly. In an effort to win back some rednecks by looking tough on Maori, it has acted with appalling bad faith towards the treaty partners and disrespect for the Tribunal. That will all add to the case for injunctions.

The Nats could have settled this at any time. Instead, they have kept on going with their politics of division. And ho that has backfired. By trying to portray the Maori Council as not representative of Maori – another play to the redneck audience, they forced Maori into a single united front.

Now, Key’s strategy just seems to be praying that something will show up. Not only is he going to miss the October/November sale window, I reckon he’ll miss the April/May one as well. Have you ever heard of an issue of this complexity, which will go to the Supreme Court, being settled within six months? And, by then, we’ll be looking at the October/November 2013 window – the same time as the referendum is likely to be held. There might even be injunctions to prevent a sale pre-empting that too.

Key’s whinging now. He says that a delay would cost “a lot of money” in extra interest costs if he has to borrow instead of having the sales revenue. Key needs to go and read his government’s Budget. It shows that the extra interest cost from more government debt is more than offset by the profits that the Government gets to keep by not selling its shares.

52 comments on “Asset sales could be delayed a year or more”

  1. Kotahi Tāne Huna 1

    Four years of planning, all those bribes will have been spent by now. The National Party’s clients will be disappointed.

    Anyone still harbouring illusions that the Christchurch rebuild will be anything but an incompetent mess, take note.

  2. millsy 2

    Awesome if it would be, but the bad news is that we will have to pay iwi elites through the nose for a dip at the local swimming hole 🙁

    • shorts 2.1

      rather them iwi elites than a foreign corporation eh millsy…

      or your point is rubbish… take ya pick

      • millsy 2.1.1

        Water should be owned by the Crown for the benefit of all New Zealanders. Plain and simple. Big Iwi and Big Business can get fucked.

        • Kotahi Tāne Huna 2.1.1.1

          The Crown disagrees.

          • TT 2.1.1.1.1

            and Iwi disagree. Water is a taonga and as such belongs to Maori. The crowns pathetic attempts to placate with koha should be firmly rebuffed.

            • vto 2.1.1.1.1.1

              Well TT, if that is the case that maori own water then it isn’t a sustainable long-lasting position. Like much thrown up by the Treaty the result does not serve New Zealand even moderately well in the long term. Quite why the parties expected such a hastily drawn document to stand the test of time I do not know. The treaty needs re-writing, while still keeping the same similar content. I know even thinking this makes me a racist but if that is the case then that is the case.

              • TT

                It doesn’t make you a racist; it just makes you wrong on this point. Why should Te Tiriti be renegotiated when Pakeha never honoured the original document? It’s time to decolonise tangatawhenua and the lands of Aotearoa. With it will go the evils of western civilisation, in particular it’s capitalist system. Aotearoa is Maori Land, Honour the Treaty, and give Maori sovereignty now.

                http://www.coloursofresistance.org/397/new-wave-old-wave-aotearoa-new-zealands-colonial-continuum/

                “Organisations and movements working for global justice in countries like Aotearoa New Zealand cannot talk of justice, democracy and liberation in a meaningful way until their starting point is the decolonisation of Indigenous Peoples and territories.”

              • Like much thrown up by the Treaty the result does not serve New Zealand even moderately well in the long term.

                There is zero evidence for that. It is just your opinion or can you show the evidence?

                I think you may mean it does not serve YOUR interests – and I have no issue with that because it is probably true.

                • vto

                  In case it escaped your notice marty, most of the late immigrants to these islands fled the tyranny of birthright privilege and its resultant injustice and inequality because it does not create a healthy society. But it surprises me not that you would tend to avoid that reality as it doesn’t suit your opinions.

                  And TT, aotearoa is not maori land. That is just silly and blinkered. Where is your evidence?

                  • so no evidence for your opinion then…

                    Aotearoa is most certainly Māori land – evidence is in front of your eyes if you would care to look. Remember the treaty and all those *pesky* settlements?

                    and your use of ‘late’ implies something. Don’t you think Māori are the indigenous inhabitants of these isles vto?

                    • vto

                      I just gave you some evidence. Please read more carefully.

                      My right to exist in these lands does not stem from the treaty (other peoples may, that is for them to determine). It is not maori land. It is land that was first, arguably, occupied by maori. First in first served is merely one way of establishing an ownership / place to call home. There are others and I’m sure you are aware of them. The fact that they are not considered indicates a lack of objectivity on your part.

                      And yes late implies that all people here are immigrants, including maori. How is that not right? And why is only grudgingly acknowledged, if at all?

                      You see marty, you and I start out from quite different outlooks and perspectives, which stem from each of our own histories and cultures. How do those two views and outlooks come together and co-exist? Well, I am not sure.

                      The treaty is flawed in its structure and cannot stand the test of time. It needs to adjust as time passes. Tell me marty, if the treaty could be re-written today, what sort of form do you think it would / should take, giving due consideration to the state of the world, its peoples, globalisation and demographics? Picture starting again from scratch… what would it look like?

                    • Kotahi Tāne Huna

                      vto: Why should Marty have to summarise all the court/tribunal decisions/recommendations that interpret the modern meaning of Te Tiriti? There’s quite a lot of them. What makes you think that a modern re-interpretation would look any different?

                    • vto

                      Oh hi kotahi. Not a reinterpretation of the treaty, a re-drawing of the treaty. Starting from scratch – everything up for consideration. Clean slate. Able to withstand the rigours of today’s planet, not the instant of history in 1840 and shortly prior.

                    • most of the late immigrants to these islands fled the tyranny of birthright privilege and its resultant injustice and inequality because it does not create a healthy society.

                      is not evidence for

                      Like much thrown up by the Treaty the result does not serve New Zealand even moderately well in the long term.

                      but please feel free to enlighten me.

                      It is land that was first, arguably, occupied by maori

                      Really? Arguably? Only by loonies vto or those who would like Māori to fuck up or fuck off which isn’t going to happen, is it?

                      How do those two views and outlooks come together and co-exist?

                      Simple really – you are going to have to adjust your view.

                      As for redoing the treaty – I don’t agree with that idea at all. But imagine if the crown and colonisers had acted honourably and treated Māori with respect and dignity, IMO the country would be a million times better. What has been done cannot be undone, but the objective of making this country better, by respecting Māori as tangata whenua and true partners, can still be achieved. And if those who do not like it jump off the waka we will all be better off.

                    • vto

                      Ok, I’ll just leave it for now. Two different worlds marty. We are just heading for the same impasse again. All the best.

                    • Kotahi Tāne Huna

                      I’m not convinced Te Tiriti has any “rigours of today’s planet” that can be defined as anything other than political: ie: the desire of a minority to do away with it in what they perceive as their own self-interest.

                    • Fair enough vto.

                      the country I imagine we can be includes you vto.

                    • If your legal right to be here relies on the current governmental structure of New Zealand in any way, I don’t care how you interpret Te Tiriti, you are reliant upon it for your legal justification to even be a citizen of this country and should show one of our founding constitutional documents a little more respect, sir.

                    • RedLogix

                      Yes Matthew. Every square mm and all resources in this land, extending out through the entire continental shelf are the absolute property of various iwi.

                      All other later immigrant are mere squatters who will eventually have to pay propert market rent to the rightful owners of Aoteoroa… or find somewhere else to live.

                      Simple

                    • onya red but it isn’t always about money – that’s a projection.

      • vto 2.1.2

        But shorts, iwi elites / corporates have shown themselves to act entirely in accordance with typical corporate behaviour. There will be no difference in conduct.

        For me the positive difference in having iwi in a position similar to most corporates is that they are “NZ-owned” and not foreign, which helps to grow our place by continually adding to the base. Unlike corporates which take away from the base.

        • shorts 2.1.2.1

          one could say if the govt weren’t hell bent on selling these assets we’d not be discussing the ownership of water rights

          saying that I prefer local ownership of strategic assets and the resources they rely on to offshore interests whose only care for those assets is in the paper ($) they can produce

    • mike e 2.2

      Millsy maybe you could have the same argument with the toilet paper millionare spencers when you go for a swim on his private beach Maori in your case are not allowed property rights conferred a 172 years ago but never upheld.
      A little home spun propaganda tale of white supremacy.

    • NickS 2.3

      /facepalm

      Keep up with the delusional bullshit please, the rest of us will enjoy our perfectly free to access rivers and lakes for recreation, more so since it’ll be free of delusional, racist idiots such as yourself.

  3. Dv 3

    And there will be no problem with the court because Key says the case is rock solid.
    Hah

    • Tracey 3.1

      Just like the case for not paying care workers overnight was rock solid, until it wasn’t, twice… still, we spent the money on the crown law office defending the indefensible.

  4. tc 4

    All those top advisers and spin doctors along with a docile MSM that never challenges the BS and this is the result.
    Along with the sell out Maori Party going along for the limos and whanau ora junkets this shows how the bully hollowmen just want their way regardless of the long term cost and damage so they can buy another investment property, take an even bigger overseas holiday and add another luxury vehicle to the spare garages.

    Divide and conquer mentality, so much for the transparent higher standard of government and a brighter future.

  5. Dr Terry 5

    The real problem is that Key can happily continue doing just as he wants, counting on his strong support base (combined with lack of support for Labour). I expect he will get away with it all, as usual.

    • Anne 5.1

      I’m not so sure this time Dr. Terry.

      As EDDIE has suggested… Maori are a single united front now. That’s a force to be reckoned with!

    • Tracey 5.2

      Sigh, I think you are right. Someone please, somewhere, press Mr English and Mr key for… Plan B in case asset sales fail to attract the required interest and

      what happens AFTER asset sales to make New Zealand a fairer and healthier nation? And no, a knighthood is not a sufficient answer.

      Is Prince Phillip still one of the 20 greatest living NZers????????

      • vto 5.2.1

        “Is Prince Phillip still one of the 20 greatest living NZers????????”

        ha ha ha, that was the most absurd, pompostic, laughable, credibility draining, stinking shit heap of a decision ever. Would be great to see the application (or whatever it is) and report (or whatever it is) that went into this decision. Great way to fart and shit all over the honours system.

        What has Prince Philip done for New Zealand that makes him one of our 20 greatest living? Does anyone know? (nobody will answer this question. Nobody answers any questions. Just make bald empty deceitful statements and refuse to answer questions. It’s just bullshit. Key is bullshit. No he isn’t, that’s too good for him. Key is flyshit and about to dry up and be blown away into the nearest stinky creek)

      • alwyn 5.2.2

        To be fair it is only the “ordinary” members who are supposed to be the top 20.
        Phillip is in a category of “additional” members.
        What the difference is supposed to be is, I admit, totally incomprehensible.
        Jonathon Hunt is meant to be one of the 20. Come on, give us a break. I suppose he must have had some really juicy knowledge about the honours committee members who appointed him.
        Owen Woodhouse, father of ACC, is only one of the additional ones.

    • Carol 5.3

      Yes, that is my fear, too, Dr Terry.

      Key will push it as far as he can get away with it. The equivocating by the Maori Party doesn’t help.

      • mickysavage 5.3.1

        Agreed Carol.
         
        For Key there is a political virtue in smashing this through against the wishes of Maori.
         
        This may heavily damage race relations in the country and send the country’s finances into a dive but it will keep his friends happy and could be worth a couple of points of support in the polls.
         
        Key will be having difficulty what is better.
         
        I would not rule out urgent legislation.

        • felix 5.3.1.1

          “This may heavily damage race relations in the country and send the country’s finances into a dive but it will keep his friends happy and could be worth a couple of points of support in the polls.”

          More and more like his hero every day, ain’t he?

  6. One World Government – One world Bank – Key is their man in NZ.

    Keys sole interest is making Corporate New Zealand to fit into this system
    He won’t give up his reputation depends on getting the job done.

  7. gobsmacked 7

    If anybody heard Pita Sharples on Morning Report today, they wouldn’t put much confidence in the Maori Party lying in the path of Key’s asset sale steamroller.

    Asked if he would consider leaving the gov’t, Sharples replied: “Why would I do that?”

    Great tactics, Pita: throw away your strongest card before you start. Can I play poker with you some time?

    Anyway, I reckon Key and English will push on, say “taniwha” and other distractions, and treat the Maori Party as the irrelevance they are.

  8. UpandComer 8

    Timings are relevant in a court situation – judge’s will take into account the timing of what lawyers/parties do in their deliberations.

    The tribunal could have made this report many many months ago. There was/is no compelling reason for it to have delayed it’s processes all the way until now – it speaks of bad faith and a deliberate effort to sabotage the government.

    Asset sales have been transparently in the works since the election – yet now the Tribunal makes it’s unfortunate statements.

    A deadline from the government is more then reasonable in these circumstances. They may do a lot of things, including court – but I suspect the asset sales will go through, and the government will actually gain votes as a result of this bad faith on the part of the tribunal.

    • gobsmacked 8.1

      The tribunal could have made this report many many months ago.

      When?

      • Tracey 8.1.1

        why before the hearing of course. They should have anticipated this. This has to be the most hilarious conspiracy theory yet expressed.

        I wish Key would have told the weathertight tribunal to hurry up with their decision on my leaky home because I am down $120k just getting this far and it’s REALLY inconvenient to my future economic plans!!!!

    • lprent 8.2

      As I remember it, the claim by the Maori Council that you are complaining about was only made early this year in about Jan/Feburary after they’d had a close look at government’s bill. It couldn’t have really been put forward prior to that since it is a response to that.

      It is rare that a claim has proceeded this fast through either the Waitangi Tribunial or indeed in any other court in 6 months. It was done under quite a high level of urgency because of the governments rather accelerated timetable.

      The sight of the bull excrement stupidly pouring from your fingers is somewhat amusing, but quite unrelated to reality. Perhaps you should examine actual court processes rather than your self-produced fantasies.

    • Kotahi Tāne Huna 8.3

      UpandComer: is lprent correct? Is your wholly false belief about this matter self-created? Or did someone feed it to you?

      It’s the difference between a liar and a credulous fool.

    • Draco T Bastard 8.4

      The tribunal could have made this report many many months ago.

      So, according to you the Tribunal could have ruled on the claim before it was brought to the Tribunal’s attention? Riiiiight.

  9. ad 9

    I quite like how Prime Minister Key seeking to sink the racist wedge into New Zealand has worked so little. Sure he got a bit of a blip in the polls, sure it excited a specific talkback sector, but it was nowhere near the impact of of Brash’s Orewa speech.

    We don’t have to presume a growing national maturity or anything, just soemthing akin to Gay marriage: teeth may grind in the heartland, but no-one’s head actually exploded.

    Key’s only possible play against the unpopularity of asset sales was to turn Maori and non-Maori against each other about asset sales and hence weaken the overall opposition. Sink the wedge.

    I enjoyed the shadenfreude in the post and look forward to Oh so much more schadenfreude as it grinds its way through the High Court, and the the Appeal Court, and then the Supreme Court.

    Even though the Foreshore and Seabed-enthused marches were grander in political impact, in consitutitional and economic impact these impending cases are the really big stormfronts.

  10. Roy 10

    Kudos to the Tribunal for openly reprimanding Key for pressuring them to decide quickly, anyway. It is a measure of Key’s arrogance that he tried.

  11. captain hook 11

    ho hum.
    when key is finished here he will probably be headhunted for a CEO gig at a soft drink company.

    • Hami Shearlie 11.1

      Or a tobacco company!!! Or a Liquor Empire. The list is endless!!! Whatever he takes on is bound to be NOT for the benefit of humankind – just his!!

    • rosy 11.2

      He couldn’t do CEO. Doesn’t have the skills and private companies don’t hire all the minders he has now to ensure he makes a fool of himself as infrequently as possible. A directorship or two would suit just fine but.

  12. Tracey 12

    Is Hawaii ripe for ceding from the US!!?????

  13. Bored 13

    Me and my rich boy buddies from Parnell are really pissed off, and we are going to stamp our little feet really hard because we are really cross with those naughty Maoris. All we wanted to do was use our large dollops of disposable income for the benefit of the country by owning the power companies. Johnnie could have used the cash to pay for our tax cuts, and all those bennies out there who we fund with what tax we do pay could buy their electricity from us so we get our money back…now that’s fair isn’t it?

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    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    6 days ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    7 days ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    7 days ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago

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