Base lies

Written By: - Date published: 9:55 am, August 14th, 2012 - 104 comments
Categories: Minister for Overseas Holidays, sport - Tags:

So, Key’s over in Maine watching his kid play baseball (and, shush, taking the rest of the week off for another overseas holiday). Whatever. The thing that gets me is that he can’t help but lie to tell people what they want to hear. He’s told Maine media that the little leaguers getting to the world tournament is big news here. No, it’s not. It’s just news that our PM has gone to watch.

104 comments on “Base lies”

  1. Carol 1

    Yankee Wannabe:
    http://static.stuff.co.nz/1344851126/982/7470982.jpg

    More important than supporting NZ military sacrifices and even more important than support for sports that have been a traditional part of NZ’s culture.

    There’s a word for that…..

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7470987/Little-leaguers-big-news-says-proud-Key

    How’s it going talking to those US uni scouts about Max getting a place at a high status US Uni, John?

  2. tc 2

    yes but looking on the positives a-la RWNJ styles at least he’s consistent in his performance as being our most popular sociopath.

  3. ghostwhowalksnz 3

    Is this NZ team competing in baseball or softball ?

    Each of the two sports have youth teams competing overseas – but in Sydney for Softball and Seoul for U18 Baseball

    So what exactly is this ‘event’ that is being held . It doesnt appear to be an official event of NZ baseball

    My guess is that the team is self selected based on ability to pay for overseas travel

  4. r0b 4

    Folks, please be careful in this thread to focus your comments on John Key, and leave his son out of it. Thanks.

    [lprent: Yes. ]

    • ghostwhowalksnz 4.1

      Isnt it Key who has claimed the team is representing NZ, when in fact its not an official ‘representative’ team of NZ Baseball

    • Draco T Bastard 5.1

      Those of us who would prefer a PM that didn’t lie.

      • This particular lie has all the significance of telling your wife her haircut looks nice when it doesn’t. Not to mention the actual comment isn’t a quote so there is no reference, context or wording to judge it on.

        So, who gives a fuck?
        If say the reporter asked “what does everyone back in New Zealand think?” you think John Key should have said “No one cares”?

        • Dr Terry 5.1.1.1

          No, Contrarian, he should have said “Ï have not asked”!

        • felix 5.1.1.2

          “If say the reporter asked “what does everyone back in New Zealand think?” you think John Key should have said “No one cares”?”

          That wouldn’t be very statesman-like now, would it? But neither is an out-and-out lie.

          No, what a person who doesn’t lie as a first instinct should say in such a circumstance is along the lines of:

          Well back home in NZ the big sports are rugby and cricket, and American sports like baseball don’t really get a look in, which is why everyone involved is even more proud of these young people for what they’ve achieved just by reaching this level.

          Or something like that.

  5. tracey 6

    It is not a genuinely international competition. The pm is interested in the asia-pacific team. My research reveals every other team is from usa. My research was brief so can bear correction. It is not a new zealand team. It is not representing nz and given the finances of softball and baseball in nz is probably user pays. Cant find the squad. Would expect it to be full of aussies tho.

  6. js 7

    In one of the local news reports above is a little comment from the PM about the sport now attracting government funding in NZ. Any conflict of interest there?

  7. Roy 8

    Why tell such a ridiculous lie?

    • You ever told someone at a party the dip was nice when it wasn’t or said you liked someones poem when you didn’t?

      Come on, this is a little bit precious 

      • Roy 8.1.1

        Those are white lies to make people feel better. This is just absurd.

        • TheContrarian 8.1.1.1

          So if the reporter asked John Key “What does everyone back in New Zealand think?” he should have said “No one cares” or perhaps made a little white lie like “everyone is excited” or “it’s big news”

      • Dr Terry 8.1.2

        TheContrarian. I do believe you are becoming civilised, managing to change your filthy epithet to “precious”!

      • felix 8.1.3

        “or said you liked someones poem when you didn’t?”

        No way. You gotta be straight with those people or they’ll never stop. 😉

  8. bbfloyd 9

    Thank you for pointing out how worried the tory twit brigade is about this story gaining legs….

    Don’t know why you are so insecure about the general public suddenly discovering what a lame, dishonest, utterly cowardly prime minister we’ve had foisted on us….The national party public relations office(tvnz,tv3,prime,radio live. zb news,herald) have been at pains to ensure the story is well and truly buried…..Indeed, the herald went so far as to write a shrill defense of johnny sparkles utter cowardice….

    What kind of snivelling, whining coward do we have for a “leader” when he is so frightened to be associated with the downside of his own governments policy of obsequious crawling to the americans that he would openly run away from his obligations as prime minister….?

    Johnny sparkles is the kind of craven coward, that’s who….

    This is the perfect demonstration of just how bereft of “leadership” johnny is…..If we didn’t know that he is no more that a “plant”, put where he is so that the “hollow men” can continue with the asset, and wealth stripping exercise unimpeded, then we know it now….

  9. This is not about John Key visiting a baseball game to watch his son play. That is just fine.

    This is about John Key’s propagandists telling us that the team his son is playing in is representing New Zealand (In an Olympic games euphoria) and making it a Dad/Prime Ministerial combi while it’s just a silly little league game in order to be able to sell us the reason John Key is excused paying his respects at a funeral of two men who died in an illegal war of aggression based on lies.

    The fact that they had to come up with the patriotic “representing New Zealand”crap means they are fully aware how sensitive this is and it is once again proof of how callous John Key really is.

    • Gosman 10.1

      Ummmmm… what evidence do you have that our involvement in Afghanistan is illegal? The UN sanctioned the deployment and role of forces in the country. That pretty much makes it legal.

      • travellerev 10.1.1

        Ummm… For those of you wanting to know why the war in Afghanistan is an illegal one here is an excellent exposé

        • TheContrarian 10.1.1.1

          Actually buddy I am pretty sure the Security Council did sanction the war

          • travellerev 10.1.1.1.1

            Actually I’m not your buddy. And for those really interested in finding out why the war in Afghanistan is illegal watch the exposé.
            Other than that John Key still choose to be derelict in his duty which according to previous commentators he was able to perform and see his kid play.

            John Key can’t be arsed that’s all there is to it!

            • TheContrarian 10.1.1.1.1.1

              Sorry buddy, the war conformed to international law.

              • Contrarian, No actually it wasn’t.

                Gosman, I don’t need too. Even if 19 young non Afghanis were able to break every law of physics the war declared on Afghanistan was as illegal then as it is now.
                Waging war on another country is only legal in two events. If you have been attacked and have to defend yourself and if attack is so eminent that only your intervention can prevent it.

                Afghanistan never intended or attempted to attack the US. Harbouring a criminal is not a legal reason to attack an entire Nation and considering they took an entire month after the attacks to attack Afghanistan imminent attack also was non existent.
                For those of you interested to learn why please watch the excellent exposé I link to above.

                • Umm, yes it was.
                  It had UN Security Council approval. Therefore legal.

                  If you want to argue about the morality of war that is a different kettle of monkeys but the Afghan war was in accordance with international war. 

                • Bob McG

                  the purpose of NZDF in Bamiyan is not actually to wage war – peacekeeping and reconstruction is actually pretty useful and the incident the two men (who are three time the calibre than JKey will ever be) were involved in was part of their role of backing up the Afghanistan security team trying to protect their region. I suppose the regiment will understand that Mr Key has made sacrifices for his country and that what ever he is doing now is more important than paying his respects to the families who have lost a loved one due to the decisions he signs off on – especially after his comment that implied they were expendable because neither had children and one didn’t have close family (his mum died when he was young and he was raised by his aunty – so not lucky and privileged like some but still willing to make himself useful).

                  But you know – by all means please base your eroneous assumptions on a piece of unsubstantiated polemic – wouldn’t want to twist your precious conclusions with anything as complex as reality.

                  • Colonial Viper

                    the purpose of NZDF in Bamiyan is not actually to wage war – peacekeeping and reconstruction is actually pretty useful

                    Too bad NZ ordered its special forces into offensive combat operations alongside the US, and did so in the glare of media coverage, thereby fucking our name of its entire presence in Afghanistan as impartial, trusted actors, and painting big red targets on the foreheads of our forces there.

                    Oh I see you didn’t mention this little fact at all.

                    But you know – by all means please base your eroneous assumptions on a piece of unsubstantiated polemic – wouldn’t want to twist your precious conclusions with anything as complex as reality.

                    Asshat.

        • Gosman 10.1.1.2

          Oh. This is one of your wacky conspiratorial rants where you try and argue that September the 11th was an inside job and that the US Government planned it all. Sorry if I had known I would have stayed away. Carry on then with spouting your wacky conspiricy theory. How’s that going for you by the way? Got anybody in any position of authority in any political organisation in NZ ready to start pushing this view?

      • Dr Terry 10.1.2

        Well, Gosman, you love to play with words. How about substituting “ïmmoral” for illegal?

  10. dancerwaitakere 11

    I’m no fan on John Key. But good on his son for doing something with his life.

    Labour and the Greens will not win the election by constantly focusing on John Key. It won’t work. He is just as incompetent as he was 4 years ago when Labour ran the ‘Trust’ adverts, but people don’t want to hear it 24/7.

    • fatty 11.1

      [I’m going to be over-cautious and remove this comment – the comment itself wasn’t offensive but I don’t want the focus turning to Key’s son. Cheers – r0b]

      • Rob 11.1.1

        Really fatty, are you sure. Ever get outside much……

        • fatty 11.1.1.1

          What?
          That’s weird…My comment wasn’t directed at Key’s son, I’m sure Key’s children are nice kids and good on him for doing well in baseball.
          I got in rep teams as a child, but I don’t see this as evidence that I’ve done something with my life.

          “Really fatty, are you sure. Ever get outside much……”

          Yip, probably more than you

          [lprent: When it comes to the families of politicians and especially their kids, the moderators view over-zealousness as being the minimum required standard. ]

    • Dr Terry 11.2

      dancerwaitakere. Who the hell is criticising his son? Nobody, of course. This is nothing but a distraction from the issue.

  11. I would not be suprised to see our Prime Minister distancing himself from our war dead.

    How long until like America, the bodies of war dead will be brought home under cover of darkness.

  12. wtl 13

    Key also lied about not being able to attend the funerals of the soldiers killed in Afghanistan because of this tournament. A bit of digging by others (see comments) has revealed that he could have attended both. This is an even bigger lie, in my opinion.

    • Ross 13.1

      I think it’s the bigger lie too. If he genuinely couldn’t have made the funeral, then he would have left himself open to the claim that he doesn’t take his job seriously enough. But to falsely claim, as he did, that he would have to let someone down, beggars belief. The guy is a charlatan and thinks the public is thick.

  13. seeker 14

    I had already posted this link on “Interesting Week”. I think it is the precursor to Contrarian’s. It shows why key felt he had to leave on Thursday – Bangor, Maine was expecting him. It had certainly given him a ‘Maine’ photo op using one of his main photos, the one we know so well!

    http://bangordailynews.com/2012/08/09/sports/new-zealand-prime-minister-to-attend-senior-league-world-series-in-bangor/

    I still believe he could have attended the military funeral, rather than rubbing salt into the fresh wounds of the bereaved by asking them to ‘understand’ his prior commitment to his son when they had just lost theirs.’Understand’ at a time like that?! Who would even be able to think of key’s needs.?

    Personally I wouldn’t want a person as insensitive and unprincipled as key at the funeral of my beloved son if he had just lost his life in the service of his country. Furthermore, said leader of the country had asked for my ‘understanding’ that a previous ‘booking’ should take precedence over his duty as the country’s prime leader to welcome my son home and publicly honour and salute his outstanding and courageous sacrifice. Death, laying down your life for your country men is no small thing.

    However, back in pm world, how irritating that such things should happen when one is already booked, armed with respectable reasons of course, to fly off on a mini family break. But, hey ho, there’s the rub of the job of being prime minister. Thinks to himself – “Must get someone to come up with a credible story to get me out of this puzzling situation and let me do what I want, whilst still looking ‘principled’. My blind followers will justify any choice I make come hell or high water while I enjoy what others have irritatingly lost. All will be well for me. I never cry or lose sleep over such things. I’ll be fine, I’ll be fine…… ”
    Key could easily have paid for another flight – he has the money.

    Patrick Gower told us more of Lance Corporal Malone’s incredibly brave actions last night. He had managed to get one soldier to safety and he went back to help another and lost his life doing so. Now that’s sacrifice and love of one’s fellow man, and devotion to duty; God bless him.

    Apologies to sensitive right wingers if this sounds harsh, but I am greatly saddened and very, very disappointed in john key and his dereliction of duty. He should have known what being the PM entailed when he took on the job. You can blindly respect him all you want, but I think New Zealand deserves better than him.

    • tracey 14.1

      Its not school holidays is it? First cunliffe now key taking holidays… Is key having more than four weeks away from work this year?

    • Dr Terry 14.2

      Key could easily have visited his son a week or two later, but not so with the memorial service. A family party can always be deferred. A matter of national grief cannot be deferred.

  14. shorts 15

    meanwhile in Bangor residents are wondering WTF is a New Zealand?

  15. Anne 16

    Thank-you seeker for expressing so well… what many of us feel about his behaviour. By the sounds of it, he could easily have attended that memorial service – which was more than just a memorial service anyway because the coffins of the two soldiers were present – without missing any of his son’s games. But it didn’t happen to suit his plans this time around.

  16. captain hook 17

    he’s just putting on the style.
    in essence key is just another wannabee who thinks that having money does it when it doesn’t.
    he should go to outer mongolia to fulfill his destiny and achieve his dream and get lost.

    • Dr Terry 17.1

      captain hook. Good idea – but outer Mongolia is too close – better he had gone on the mission to Mars, from which there is no return!

  17. tracey 18

    The thing is contrarian why is his default position, lying. ? He cld have said its a big deal to me because hes my son…. But knowing it will get reported back he just had to lie…

    • Look at it this way – it isn’t a direct quote, it has no context, we don’t know the question, if it was part of larger comment etc etc. Not to mention it is comparable to telling the host at a party you enjoyed yourself when you really didn’t.

      Therefore it is really quite precious and silly to get all bent out of shape about it when they are real pressing issues one could report on. This is childish.

      I know, I know, some wags above have made comment that for something I am saying is so minor I seem to be getting bent out of shape. But debating this issue with The Standard monkeys in no way implies I care about what Key said. Because I don’t – I don’t care. But the bleating Standard intrigues me much like you can’t help but tongue a loose tooth…..or scratch a genital wart. 

      Anyway, that’s where I am at. 

      • Murray Olsen 18.1.1

        No Contrarian, it’s more like going to a turducken party in the US and A and being asked if they’re popular in your country. The appropriate answer would be “Apart from Gerry Brownlee, nobody in my country knows what a turducken is, but they’re very popular with him.” Key’s answer was more along the lines of “Yes, we all gave one at least once a month and they are becoming an increasingly important part of the Kiwi dining experience.”

      • Tracey 18.1.2

        Is the lie about energy prices not being more expensive under private companies precious, or serious? You see, it’s the same scale…

  18. felix 19

    “Look at it this way – it isn’t a direct quote, it has no context, we don’t know the question, if it was part of larger comment etc etc.”

    That’s a fair call, bit of context and an actual quote would be nice.

    “Not to mention it is comparable to telling the host at a party you enjoyed yourself when you really didn’t.”

    That’s not a comparison you can really make, because as you point out there’s no quote and no context, so really you have no idea what it’s comparable to.

    However if I were to assume that it’s roughly accurate for the purposes of this discussion, I’d say a better comparison would be telling the host at a party that you’re a huge fan of whatever they’re a fan of when you aren’t. Which, apart from being a bit stupid because they’re going to know straight away if the conversation goes any further, is also a sign of a great weakness of character.

    “Therefore it is really quite precious and silly to get all bent out of shape about it when they are real pressing issues one could report on. This is childish.”

    Yep. You should probably stop it.

    • That’s a fair call, bit of context and an actual quote would be nice.

      indeed, it is quite important.

      Yep. You should probably stop it. 

      I’ll never stop. I am like an irresistible force…would you like to be my immovable object?
       

  19. infused 20

    Slow news day?

  20. irascible 21

    KeY is more than likely getting a briefing from his GOP familiars while using the photo opportunity of the quintessentially USA little league to demonstrate his patriotism while ignoring the reality of the country he plays at being PM of.
    We should remember he is the the MP for Hawaii rather than Helensville.

  21. RedBaron 22

    Fair enough to leave politicians’ kids alone – couldn’t agree more.

    BUT when will the politicians leave the kids of beneficiaries alone and stop typecasting them by their parent income..
    When will they stop issuing contraceptive advice to the 16 year old daughters of low income parents, demanding vacinations even though a benefit may only be used for a short period of time and on and on……

  22. jack 23

    Key looks like he is really enjoying himself at the baseball game.. the favourite American pastime. Meanwhile back home two family are burying their loved ones who gave the ultimate price on Key’s orders to fight in Afganistan to back the yanks. Something is horribly wrong here.. .have we truly lowered the bar when it comes to Prime Ministers?? Is he as self serving as he appears but the media won’t reveal?? Terrible.. it reminds me of Key’s response rate to the Rena.. Terrible. I can’t see why anyone would vote for this creep.

    • Tracey 23.1

      The other reason he probably said it is because the Leader of a nation taking time off his “job” to watch a small tournament probably made them think “wow this game must be huge in NZ”.

  23. Tracey 24

    “”You’re apt to see a whole lot of players willing to join the sport and participate,” he told the Maine newspaper, “because we always see that when we see a New Zealand team doing well, whether it’s basketball or whatever it might be.” John Key

  24. Balanced View 25

    Pathetic article.
    Zetetic – unfortunately by publishing nonsense like this you lose credibility with a majority of NZers. This will then discredit any good points you make in other posts.
    Of course the regular sheep that live on this site will lap it up….

    • Colonial Viper 25.1

      “Balanced View” has somehow mind-read what the “majority of New Zealanders” think.

      This is a truly remarkable step in human evolution.

    • Draco T Bastard 25.2

      I recall this balanced View. His view is so far to the right as to make John Key seem centrist. Never says anything of value at all and just insults people – like he just did.

      • Balanced View 25.2.1

        You couldn’t be more wrong about my political view point. But thanks for recalling me.

    • mike 25.3

      Well colour me t-rolled.

  25. saf 26

    Maybe John did the Toolman Tim thing and sought advice from the good man over the back fence.
    This Venerable source of wisdom should always be listened to.

  26. Treetop 27

    I expect that Key will have discussions with the FBI re Dotcom and this will not be confirmed.

  27. Stu 28

    Mr Key is still Overseas and 3 more NZ soldiers die. Does he care a hoot I think not as going overseas on a holiday to see his son appears more important to him.

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    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    5 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    6 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • Contempt
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    1 week ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    1 week ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    1 week ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    1 week ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    1 week ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    2 weeks ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago

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