Daily Review 08/12/2017

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1. weka 1

   8 December 2017 at 6:33 pm

   Is there a Tour anniversary today? Or are we being incited to revolution?
   • Carolyn_Nth 1.1

     8 December 2017 at 6:45 pm

     The Tour was July-Sept 1981
   • mickysavage 1.2

     8 December 2017 at 8:28 pm

     I saw the photo and I thought it was something to remember. No particular reason.
     • BM 1.2.1

       8 December 2017 at 8:46 pm

       I was too young but I remember my Dad and brother going along to the game.

       I’m surprised no one was killed when the protesters were trying to leave, the number of bottles and full cans of beer that were raining down on them were hard to believe.

       The old man actually has a mint game programme signed by the Waikato team and the springbok which included the signature of Errol Tobias the first ever black guy to play for South Africa.

       Must find out how much it’s worth.
       • Muttonbird 1.2.1.1

         8 December 2017 at 10:01 pm

         Not a bad story until the last sentence. You RWNJs always come back to dollar value rather than cultural value.

         Pretty sad really that you’d talk about your memories of the time, your family, the protests, Errol Tobias, and then debase the whole lot by wanting to put a price on your dad’s memorabilia.

         I wonder if he’d be proud of your comment.
         • In Vino 1.2.1.1.1

           8 December 2017 at 10:45 pm

           Oh, tut tut! Bullshit Mountain would not even think of actually selling it. But its value would make such a good conversation point when he was conversing with his soul-mates, very few of whom will be reading or contributing to TS.
           A bit like a dog pissing on a lamp-post at the limit of its territory.
           • Muttonbird 1.2.1.1.1.1

             8 December 2017 at 10:59 pm

             A bit like a dog pissing on a lamp-post at the limit of its territory.

             That’s a very good description of BM and the other RWNJ trolls. Like dogs and cats they go as far as they dare and urinate all over the place.
             • garibaldi …

               9 December 2017 at 6:30 am

               So BM was too young in 81. This means he was brought up exposed only to neoliberalism, but that’s still no excuse for his lack of humanity.
2. Anne 2

   8 December 2017 at 6:55 pm

   Helen Clark was a spectator at that particular event. She wasn’t one of the helmeted protesters who pulled down the fence not was she one of those who then clambered over it, but that didn’t stop her from being roughed up by an over zealous cop.
3. Drum 3

   8 December 2017 at 6:57 pm

   Weka you were talking about the demise of Fatso. Do you know about Alices in Christchurch?
   • weka 3.1

     8 December 2017 at 7:22 pm

     I do! Haven’t used their service in a long time though. From memory it was expensive and not very well streamlined (am thinking it might have even been video tape, lol). I should check it out though, because there’s lots of older TV that’s not available via other easier methods.
4. The Fairy Godmother 4

   8 December 2017 at 7:06 pm

   That brings back memories. I planned to go to the Hamilton game but was too scared and landed up staying home and throwing up. It was wonderful that the game was stopped. Then moved on to looking at the issues of racism and land issues in our own country so the anti-tour movement was a real stepping stone for my awareness.
   • Anne 4.1

     8 December 2017 at 8:26 pm

     Thanks for reminding me of the Hamilton game TFG. I was wrong about the above photo. A similar incident occurred at Eden Park in Auckland at the start of the tour and that was the one where Helen Clark was pushed around.

     Here’s a good video of the Springbok protests. The Hamilton game starts at 12:30 minutes:

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AevAs3rTSyE

     I had forgotten how violent that day became.
     • The Fairy Godmother 4.1.1

       8 December 2017 at 9:03 pm

       I had friends who were on the field. I knew they were going down from Auckland and I was very scared. I was 20 at the time. My parents freaked out at the crash helmets we wore. I remember Dad a previous Muldoon supporter donating money to the MOST defence game because he was so glad I hadn’t got arrested so he helped those who had.
       • Anne 4.1.1.1

         8 December 2017 at 10:09 pm

         It was a very scary time. I went on the final protest at Eden Park. I was one of the many very ordinary NZers who left early because we were so shocked at the level of violence on both sides.

         I’m still wrong re- Helen Clark’s experience at the hand of a policeman. It was an earlier anti-apartheid demonstration at Eden Park in the mid 1970s. I’m sure she still had her long, thick wavy hair.
         • The Fairy Godmother 4.1.1.1.1

           8 December 2017 at 10:32 pm

           My Granddad went to all the MOST meetings because he wanted to know what was going on if he was going out protesting. He was wise. I had a sense of what was safe and what wasn’t. I never went in the front rows for instance. Protesters did have choices. I think a whole lot of stuff in NZ was coming out. A bit like a boil being lanced.
5. adam 5

   8 December 2017 at 8:02 pm

   Because it’s almost the weekend.
6. eco maori 6

   9 December 2017 at 4:40 am

   My nan taught me not to feed strawberry to those animals with a snout. So I no who to give eco strawberries to and that does not include the people whom are neo liberal from MSM who have clearly sided with ECO Maori oppressors
   I no what’s happening to your ratings you neo liberals. Be thankful that I do not come out and just attack your show as I have said I don like having a negative effect on people no matter who they are. Ana to kai.
7. patricia bremner 7

   10 December 2017 at 1:17 pm

   I was on a balcony in Napier during the 25th August school holidays 1981, and saw the protesters marching down the street. I turned to my husband and said “Why are they wearing helmets?”

   No sooner had I said that than the police with long batons arrived and appeared to target people in the lines. It was a shocking sight to see people belted down and dragged off. Though later they said there were “no arrests” in the Tribune, and they were “out of towners”

   Our two sons never forgot the sight and neither did we. As had happened to miners in the past, the police were being used to suppress protesters, and they did so with no regard for any of the public. Apparently a young John Minto was there, as part of HART.

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