web analytics

Daily review 17/07/2019

Written By: - Date published: 5:36 pm, July 17th, 2019 - 117 comments
Categories: Daily review - Tags:

 

Daily review is also your post.

This provides Standardistas the opportunity to review events of the day.

The usual rules of good behaviour apply (see the Policy).

Don’t forget to be kind to each other …

117 comments on “Daily review 17/07/2019 ”

  1. joe90 2

    This is how it's done.

    The state of Berlin has bought back 670 apartments on the historic Karl-Marx-Allee from a private owner after decades of property privatisation in the German capital.

    A 1950s prestige project for socialist East Germany, the grand boulevard that stretches from the city centre to Friedrichshain in the east has been the frontline of a months-long fight over gentrification and rising property prices.

    The struggle erupted last November when the property management firm Predac announced its intention to offload 700 apartments on the road to Berlin’s largest property company, Deutsche Wohnen.

    Fearing rent increases, tenants organised protest marches and hung banners from their apartments, eventually pushing the city senate to block the sale.

    […]

    Berlin’s mayor said the move was indicative of a wider strategy to reacquire housing stock sold to private investors in the 1990s, following rapid rises in rental costs in the city in recent years.

    “Berliners should be able to continue to afford living in the city,” said Michael Müller. “That is why it was and continues to be our intention to buy up apartments wherever we can, so that Berlin can regain control of its property market.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/16/berlin-buys-670-flats-on-karl-marx-allee-from-private-owner

    • veutoviper 2.1

      Thanks for that link and quotes, joe90. The whole housing issue in Germany is very, very different to that in NZ. Far more people in Germany rent their homes rather than own them, but renting is a very different experience/philosophy etc than in NZ. Renting is far more long term with tenants having to provide far more of the fittings and fixtures while above to make improvements, renovate etc with much greater freedoms. As I understand it rental prices have been much more stable until recently.

      Sabine has provided some very good information on this over recent months but don't have time to find links.

      A short mention of this buy-back with a different link was also posted by Scott GN at 7 on Open Mike today – https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17-07-2019/#comment-1637692

  2. joe90 3

    Who woulda thunk people marginalised simply because of their identity might let their identity form their politics.

    • Ad 3.1

      He's dead right, and it applies most of all to the right's nationalist and identitarian groups that sustain Trump in power. Although the left are not immune.

  3. Muttonbird 4

    How Hunter S. Thompson Would Cover Donald Trump

    (Thompson) followed Nixon from the late 1960s when he wrote in Pageant Magazine that Nixon/Trump was “…a foul caricature of himself, a man with no soul, no inner convictions, with the integrity of a hyena and the style of a poison toad… absolutely humorless; I couldn’t imagine him laughing at anything except maybe a paraplegic who wanted to vote Democratic but couldn’t quite reach the lever on the voting machine.” Ring any bells?

    https://lithub.com/how-hunter-s-thompson-would-cover-donald-trump/

  4. CHCoff 5

    https://www.interest.co.nz/business/100754/deputy-prime-minister-winston-peters-highlights-benefits-nz-china-fta-bid-get-us

    'Peters acknowledged the US pulling out of what was originally the Trans-Pacific Partnership, saying before amendments were made to get the multilateral trade agreement to where it’s at now, “many of us in NZ had similar reservations”.

    “Although some were disappointed [by the US]… we understand and respect the right of your administration to make this decision,” Peters said, recognising President Donald Trump’s preference for bilateral agreements.'

    YEP

    • Ad 5.1

      We trade with both China and the US, and while China's economy gradually "slows" to 6.2% GDP growth, the US economy rockets along.

      So far we haven't lost our principles in doing so.

  5. joe90 6

    Junta sends signal to loyal faction.

  6. Morrissey 7

    Sadly, New York's Democratic mayor, Mr Di Blasio, has failed to do anything about his murderous cops either.

  7. ankerawshark 8

    Anyone else still struggling to accept the WC Cricket.???? If you are not struggling good on you, seriously.

    My beefs are

    1. We bowled England out, surely that should have been the end of the game. Gordon Campbell thinks so too. No need for super over etc.

    2. While I completely accept umpires make mistakes and that we have to accept that, shouldn't umpires in a world cup be completely au fait with the rules????? None of the three of them seemed to know the rules regarding the knock on on Stokes bat. This cost

    NZ a run and therefore the cup. Enquiry please as to why three umpires ignorant of rules.

    3. The deciding factor i.e. that number of boundaries scored is ludicrous, arbitrary and totally lacks any understanding of the game. Did they make this up after a few too many drinks??????

    I would have completely accepted a loss as I did in 2015, but actually can't accept this as anything but the BC's actually won.

    This is very bad for cricket in my humble opinion.

    • The Al1en 8.1

      I loved it. Fantastic game. Brilliant result. Best team in the world won.

      Shame for NZ the super over rules were in force before the competition began, that runs win, lose or tie games not the amount of wickets lost, and there's ambiguity in the Stokes' extra runs rule as to whether it's from the throw or the moment it hits the bat.
      An alternative to boundaries scored would be to have done what they do in some other sports and sorted it through the head to head result in the round robin.

      As it is, you'll just have to learn to live with choking twice in the one game.

      • Muttonbird 8.1.1

        I’m guessing the second run wasn't completed when he ball hit the bat so no ambiguity there. Perhaps ambiguity on the cross.

        The rest of your comment is typically uncharitable from a pom. 👎

        • The Al1en 8.1.1.1

          The ambiguity to the rule is whether the batsmen cross before the throw or after it hit the bat, in which case, as the guy was diving full stretch for the crease coming back for the second run, it would obviously have been after they'd crossed, so six runs.

          Don't care about you calling me an uncharitable pom.

          Law 19.8 – overthrow or wilful act of fielder:

          If the boundary results from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder, the runs scored shall be:

          any runs for penalties awarded to either side;
          the allowance for the boundary; and
          the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they had already crossed at the instant of the throw or act.
          There is some potential for ambiguity in the law, because “act” could be interpreted as the moment the ball deflected off Stokes’ bat.

          • Muttonbird 8.1.1.1.1

            Ah well. As long as you feel good about England having won in that fashion.

            The other thing goes in my little notebook. 😁

            • The Al1en 8.1.1.1.1.1

              I would have preferred a six off the final ball, but in football, I'd take extra time and penalty shoot out, or in rugby union a final minute drop goal, or in netball a final second basket, or a last gasp tiddle in the wink.

              Could have gone either way, so you gotta take the smooth with the rough once in a while… And let’s face it, there’s been plenty of rough.

          • ankerawshark 8.1.1.1.2

            https://the12thman.in/watch-the-proof-that-shows-new-zealand-was-robbed-in-the-final/

            I am afraid The Allen I believe this and the umpire quoted more than what you say……………………..But I think the English will be rationalizing their win left right and centre right now. Which is kind of pathetic…………..

            I still think if one team is bowled out, the other still has wickets at hand and the runs are equal, that should end the game whatever the rules say. That imo is the most logical way to determine the winner.

            • The Al1en 8.1.1.1.2.1

              Doesn't matter what you think, or me for that matter, the victory was in line with the rules all teams were familiar with and agreed to.

              Sadly, your hard done by feelings don't come into it.

              • ankerawshark

                But the rule weren't adhered to by the umpires who are there to carry out the rules………….

                A victory, but not much of one…….as I say their world cup "victory" will be always be tainted in the eyes of many. Both fans and people who know a lot more about cricket that you and I do.

                Anyway, I will stop feeling this way soon. But their will always be a shadow over Englands win.

                • The Al1en

                  Tainted in the eyes of the losers, for sure, but it says England on the trophy and always will.

                  I know I'll always remember our first time with a smile on my dial. Would have preferred beating the Aussies or India though.

                  • ankerawshark

                    Actually I have been reading on-line commentaries and there are huge numbers of people from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka to name just some countries who are of my view point…………….that's just the fans…..

                    And actually we didn't lose the game…………England didn't win. They were awarded the cup as a result of the rules.

                    And yes I can understand that you are happy. Like your fellow countrymen, not much compassion for those of us who are understandably finding it difficult. Oh well………there you go.

                    • The Al1en

                      Dress it how you like, it'll change nothing, but England won the world cup according to the tournament rules. Count back, by 160 runs or 9 wickets, the win is a win. NZ would have taken it at the start of play, no doubt about it.

                • Gabby

                  No point in whinging about it ankey. Won't change a thing, just annoys people.

          • Gabby 8.1.1.1.3

            Seriously? Ok then, at what point does a throw become an overthrow?

    • Muttonbird 8.2

      This cost NZ a run and therefore the cup.

      It did cost a run but not necessarily the cup. There were still two deliveries to go.

      • ankerawshark 8.2.1

        whether awarded 5 or 6 runs it couldn't influence what came next……………

        • The Al1en 8.2.1.1

          Of course it could. An increased run rate would have been met with a more aggressive approach to the final two deliveries. Obviously.

        • Muttonbird 8.2.1.2

          Well no but Rashid might have leg glanced for 4, or 1, then Stokes might have been more bold had they required 3 from 1.

          As it stands he choked, not being able to get 3 from 2 and win it properly…

    • mauī 8.3

      It was a complicated, rarely used rule in the most important game of cricket for 4 years. Umpires make mistakes too, it's very unfair to put the reason for a loss on a single decision like that in my view.

      NZ's mistakes were more egregious, they wasted a review when Guptill was plumb infront meaning Taylor had no reviews left when he had a high lbw later on. Boult went to complete the catch on the boundary and stepped on the rope instead of stopping the six first and saving 4 or 5 runs.

      • ankerawshark 8.3.1

        I expect all players to make mistakes and all players did…….I also expect umpires to as well. But it wasn't a mistake the umpires made it was incompetence. Three of them don't appear to know the rules. Did cost us the game.

        Maui. Whatever the mistakes at 50 overs both teams scored the same……….But England bowled out………….

        England didn't win the game nor did NZ lose the game. England were awarded the cup.

        T Allen would believe the take that the international umpire (whose name escapes me) made rather than yours. No one in the ICC has dispute what said international umpire said.

        • The Al1en 8.3.1.1

          It doesn't matter England were bowled out, it's the number of runs that count. Always has. The scores were tied, so super over. According to the rules of the competition, in a tie, it's a count back to boundaries scored. You lost fair and square. That is an indisputable fact.

          Besides that, during the tournament, England beat Australia, India and NZ… Twice. Best team won.

          • mpledger 8.3.1.1.1

            It seems odd that if all your batsmen are out that they get a second chance to bat. There should never have been a super over because there was noone left in the English team to bat.

            The rules are the rules and so the English won the cup. That's the way the cookie crumbles in sport.

            But I think it is reasonable to say that the rules were unfair and that they should be changed. The rules should be a priori fair to the best of our ability.

            • The Al1en 8.3.1.1.1.1

              Take it up with the ICC, though the rules of super overs are pretty clear in that each team starts afresh with three nominated batsmen and one bowler.

            • Muttonbird 8.3.1.1.1.2

              That will be the test. If they do change the rules it will be an admission that this wasn't a legitimate result.

              • The Al1en

                And you can take some comfort in that as you wipe the dribbles of snot from your nose and salty tears from your eyes with your Purex man sized tissues 😆

                • Muttonbird

                  These things have ceased to trouble me too much in recent years, so I have not shed a tear figuratively or otherwise.

                  A braying Englishman however…

                  • The Al1en

                    Braying, just having a laugh, whatever.

                    • Muttonbird

                      Empire complex. It's pretty hard to shake.

                    • The Al1en

                      You should try harder to get over it.

                    • Muttonbird

                      Empire complex runs through most English people I've met, and it's on the increase with the hard swing to the right in Britain.

                      You've got it in spades.

                    • The Al1en

                      Ha, you're on one all right. I've said nothing about empire at all, or even once alluded to it or the notion of superiority, other than to say the best team won the cricket.

                      Look, you don't have to have an inferiority complex with me. I'm just a working class man from nothing who moved here and now has next to nothing, apart for a sharp mind, quick wit and an ability to draw out shit from arseholes on the internet.

                    • Muttonbird

                      Is ankerawshark an arsehole?

                      Was your intention to 'draw shit' from him?

                      Grow up, old bean, your radar is broken.

                    • The Al1en

                      I'm going to bed. Give you time to stock up on the triple ply. 😆

                  • 🙂

                    If it's not one damn Empire, it's another ….. a bit like history ("If it's not one damn thing it's another")

                    Unfortunately 'lil 'ole NuZull is still not ready to give them the two finger salute at times

    • CHCoff 8.4

      It would be hard to win any more as the 'losing' team as the NZ Black Caps did taking everything into account, in an international showpiece world cup final.

      In many ways they hit it out of the park. Congratulations to England also.

  8. Muttonbird 9

    Oh look. John Key's ANZ has been downgraded because of poor management. I though he was supposed to be a superstar in business!

    Australia's ANZ Bank has taken another hit, with the international credit rating agency Fitch downgrading the bank's operations in both Australia and New Zealand from a 'stable' to a 'negative' outlook, citing "material shortcomings in operational risk management, which were not aligned with the assessment Fitch had previously incorporated into its ratings".

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12250454

    • Anne 9.1

      Chickens coming home to roost big time. laugh

    • ankerawshark 9.2

      Thanks Muttonbird. That cheers me up.

      One thing for sure though, The Black Caps are the best guys, best sports (think Roy arguing with the ref, Stokes brawling outside a bar)…………and the winners of everyone's hearts. Englands win will ALWAYS be tainted.

      • The Al1en 9.2.1

        Although Kaine didn't walk for a caught behind for the second game running, so maybe not the best example of sportsmanship.

        • Muttonbird 9.2.1.1

          Well it's not beating someone unconscious outside a pub sort of sportsmanship! I know which one I'd take.

          • The Al1en 9.2.1.1.1

            The knobs he smacked who were abusing the gay couple? Won him more fans than he lost, I reckon.

            If punching a nazi is okay, it is for dealing to homophobes, too.

            • Muttonbird 9.2.1.1.1.1

              I think there's some, how did you put it, ambiguity about that.

              I think he's just a bit fighty.

              • The Al1en

                Certainly showed some Dunkirk spirit, that's for sure.

                • Muttonbird

                  Oh right. Now we're onto the, 'you'd all be speaking German now if it wasn't for us!' 😂

                  • The Al1en

                    You said he was ‘fighty’, and I agreed. Great rearguard action in the face of adversity. National treasure now. They'll call it the Stokes effect for sure. 😆

                    • Muttonbird

                      Well, it is just a game. He needs to learn to turn it off in public.

                      Born in Christchurch so that explains a lot!

                    • The Al1en

                      Although as we learnt on here following mayor Len and his affair, apparently what goes on outside work doesn't affect or influence one's ability to do their day job.

                    • Muttonbird

                      Bizarre equivalence. Drunk, Stokes smashed someones face in and was suspended by his employer for some time. So it did affect his ability to do his job.

                      Then this:

                      Shortly after being arrested in September 2017, a video emerged which showed Stokes mimicking Katie Price's disabled son.

                      In September 2018, Stokes was charged with bringing the game into disrepute by the ECB. The charge related to the incident in Bristol and social media posts. In December 2018, the Cricket Disciplinary Commission, which is independent from the ECB, announced that Stokes would be fined £30,000

                      Yeah, what a hero!

                    • The Al1en

                      I don't want to marry him or anything, so drag up his past all you like, forget his apologies, and hang him at dawn for all I care.

                      Won't stop him being a world champion cricketer.

                    • Muttonbird

                      And a Kiwi at that.

                    • The Al1en

                      With Maori ancestry

                    • Muttonbird

                      Hope you are not intimating that's where his violent behaviour comes from.

                      Mind you, nothing would surprise me tonight.

                    • The Al1en

                      Again, you said he was a kiwi, and I said, yeah, and with Maori ancestry.

                      There's nothing in that apart from what you appear to be wanting to add to it. A bit low, though, playing the race card because NZ lost a game of cricket. Or are you just throwing out some shit in the hope some of it will stick?

                      Anyway, as you'll know, Stokes was acquitted at trial, so not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.

                    • Muttonbird

                      I'm at a loss. Why then did you mention he was Maori?

                      Also, I think you'll find the game was tied. The cup was awarded to England because they scored more of their runs in boundaries.

                      Stokes is a bad egg. Being a world champion cricketer doesn’t change that.

                    • The Al1en

                      Won't stop him being a world champion cricketer.

                      And a Kiwi at that.

                      With Maori ancestry

                      That's the order the conversation stream went. Why wouldn't I add to your statement he's a kiwi with further information about it? It’s not a secret.

                      Pretty poor attempt on your behalf to lay a race charge at my door. Knowing that I clearly haven't intended anything of the sort you've alluded to, I will accept your apology and say no more about it.

                    • Muttonbird

                      Righto. That's a pretty thin explanation you'll admit.

                      I don't 'clearly' know anything about what you were thinking. To be honest, your comments tonight are a departure from what I'd come to expect from you (defending thugs and gloating at unhappy fans) so who knows what was on your mind.

                      There will be no apology.

                    • The Al1en

                      It's not an explanation, it's a repeat of the timeline of events of what happened and what was said, and of course there won't be an apology, you think your work is done. Slyly throw a racist smear at me here, question my left wing leanings over there, say I support thugs even though many good sorts on here have argued the case for punching nazis and haters.

                      Not even close. You'll have to work a lot harder than that to settle your old scores. 🙄

                    • Muttonbird

                      Just havin' a laugh, whatever.

        • ankerawshark 9.2.1.2

          Kane actually is the best example of sportsmanship. I doubt you will find anyone who disputes that. But clearly you have no answer to what I have said about Stokes and Roy…………….

          Anyway, I came on line about this as I said I was struggling and I thought it was unfair. All you have wanted to do is rub the awarding of the cup to England in my face. Unkind and uncompassionate. It's obvious that how the end of the game was dealt with leaves questions about the rules and the umpires not knowing the rules leaves questions too.

          If it had of been a clear victory to England I would have wished them well as I did to Australia when they won in 2015.

          • Muttonbird 9.2.1.2.1

            Yeah. The Alien hasn't covered himself with glory here and it was his response to your admission that annoyed me.

            Zero compassion and it makes me wonder if he's a leftie at all!

            The fervour with which he's gloating betrays an inadequacy somewhere.

          • The Al1en 9.2.1.2.2

            I deliberately didn't come on here the morning of the victory and rub anyone's nose in it, and I wouldn't have said a word about the game if you hadn't have posted about the unfairness of it all.

            I was pretty classy, I reckon, for one failing Tebbit's cricket test with so much ease.

      • Muttonbird 9.2.2

        Oh yes. Definitely an asterisk next to that win for ever.

        The win can't even be described in normal cricketing terms; by x runs or by x wickets. Even Cricinfo doesn’t mark the result as a win for England.

        England won by more boundaries? Why does it matter how many runs were scored through boundaries?

        • ankerawshark 9.2.2.1

          Actually I have been reading on-line commentaries and there are huge numbers of people from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka to name just some countries who are of my view point…………….that's just the fans…..

          And actually we didn't lose the game…………England didn't win. They were awarded the cup as a result of the rules.

          And yes I can understand that you are happy. Like your fellow countrymen, not much compassion for those of us who are understandably finding it difficult. Oh well………there you go.

          • Muttonbird 9.2.2.1.1

            They were awarded the cup as a result of the rules.

            That's a good way to look at it. A Claytons win. They had to give it to someone – it might as well be the team the umpires helped up to the finish line.

            • CHCoff 9.2.2.1.1.1

              Also the last ball of our innings, our tall Black Cap batsman had to duck under a bodyline bouncer, couldn't that easily have been a no ball also?

              The list goes on lol

        • ankerawshark 9.2.2.2

          Agree 100* Muttonbird…………

  9. joe90 10

    Oh yeah, weird.

  10. joe90 11

    How's those almost human eyes.

  11. Incognito 12

    I admire Julie Anne Genter but my admiration has gone up a notch because of her gutsy move to go on the Facebook pages of National MPs to correct the deliberate misinformation around the Government proposal to introduce a Clean Car Discount from 2021.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/114245123/govt-wades-deep-in-nats-territory-to-defend-evs-policy-takes-explaining-is-losing-to-new-level

    The ‘neutral’ MSM frames it as “defensive”, thoughtless, “incredibly thin-skinned”, “hyper defensiveness”, “out of touch with voters”, “Genter's social media crusade” and other subtle ways to paint a (negative) picture of the Government handling of the proposed scheme and to suggest a lack of confidence that the scheme will stand on its own merits.

    There are hints that they know full well who is on the right side of the facts:

    This has left Associate Transport Minister Julie Anne Genter seemingly with no other choice but to stoically dive deep into the heart of Opposition online territory as the last bastion of defence against misplaced skepticism of Government policy.

    The EV policy has plenty of positive messages which sit behind it. [my emphasis]

    Shame though that none of those positive messages were mentioned in the article except for the screenshot of JAG’s excellent comments on those Facebook pages.

    Good on her, I say.

    The consultation document can be found at https://transport.cwp.govt.nz/clean-cars/ .

    Submissions close on 20 August 2019.

    • Anne 12.1

      And Phil Twyford was in the Herald correcting the misinformation over the Govt's Transport proposals.

      They've been letting the Nats get away with distortions and downright lies for a long time now, so I hope this is a sign they are fighting back.

      • Incognito 12.1.1

        The PR department needs to work a lot harder on setting the narrative IMO.

      • Gabby 12.1.2

        Laziness or timidity?

        • Anne 12.1.2.1

          Lack of crafty communication resources among other things. Check out mickey's latest post "Sometimes explaining is not losing". Some good comments.

    • The Chairman 12.2

      A modern day politician.

      yes

      If the media did a better job of calling National's lies out, she wouldn't have to correct the deliberate misinformation.

      • Incognito 12.2.1

        True, but maybe she’s enjoying it too; I would.

        • The Al1en 12.2.1.1

          Fake news on faceachebook, who'd of thunk it?

          Good for her heading it off at the source. The left parties should make a habit of it in the run up to 2020. Be the headline with their own message. not the subject of someone else.

    • Nat supporters are very fond of saying "explaining is losing," while never mentioning its corollary: "lying is winning." I guess they wouldn't.

      • The Chairman 12.3.1

        Their lying is assisted by the media. Instead of calling them out, they make headlines of them.

  12. Wayne 13

    I read Julie Anne Genter's comments on Stuff. I think it is a mistake for a Minister to engage on another party's facebook page. Interesting concept though. Very different to me commenting on The Standard. I am a private citizen, just doing my thing for the interest of it.

    I think the big issue on the EV policy will be the $3,000 impost on tradies and rural contractors utes. Though I expect that Winston Peters will fix that by having an exemption if they are primarily used in business. After that there will be no issues with the policy.

    • Incognito 13.1

      Why do you think it is a mistake?

      Why do you assume that all utes will have the maximum possible fee under the current proposal?

      Tradies and contractors buy their utes on the business, don’t they?

      They can still choose to buy a relatively new second-hand import with a max. fee of $1,500.

      I reckon the proposal leaves a lot of flexibility to the consumers, don’t you agree?

    • tc 13.2

      And off Wayne goes, yes or no to this Mr private citizen.

      Do you condone these wilful misrepresentions made by MP's ? Yes or no ?

    • Gabby 13.3

      Sounds n smells like bullshit waynee.

  13. Wayne 14

    Not sure the Ford Ranger, or VW Ute (the two favoured models on the Shore) are really second hand import vehicles.

    Anyway the tradies I know won’t like the govt dictating their vehicle choice. I know that statement is not literally true, but you get the point. They will expect Winston to moderate the policy, at least for vehicles that have a work use. Those who buy new Rangers to tow big boats could be expected to pay.

    • tc 14.1

      Gonna answer my question. I'm intrigued as a lawyer what you think as these are taxpayer funded roles.

    • mauī 14.2

      Tend to agree.. the Ford "Monster Truck" is a necessity on the Shore. The rough unsealed 4WD forestry roads there are impossible to navigate without such a vehicle.

    • I know that statement is not literally true, but you get the point.

      I do. And fuck 'em. Any costs they incur get recovered from their customers, so why should anyone listen to their whingeing?

      • dv 14.3.1

        AND PM a 3k$ cost ove 5 years lifeish of vehicle is in the order $12 per week!!!

        (Imagine the whine when fuel goes up 10c litre)

      • Wayne 14.3.2

        And your attitude shows why tradies and rural contractors will be looking to Winston Peters rather than the Greens for the fix.

        Your attitude is typical of those in gold plated public service jobs who have zero understanding of the challenges facing small businesses. $3,000 is not an irrelevantly small amount of money for them.

        • Andre 14.3.2.1

          It's difficult not to conclude $3000 is an irrelevantly small sum when they go for the top of the line Wildtrak and then further tart it up with stuff that actually reduces functionality like 20" wheels and a big chrome rollbar.

        • OnceWasTim 14.3.2.2

          "Your attitude is typical of those in gold plated public service jobs who have zero understanding of the challenges facing small businesses"

          I must remember to write that down in my little black book for the next time the gNats are in power and you/your colleagues decide to create another bugger's muddle like MoBIE and stuff it full of short term thinkers

          • I feel love 14.3.2.2.1

            Hasn't Dr Wayne spent his life working in gold plated public service jobs?

            Also, maybe to old guys like him is MPs commenting on social media not a good look, but to anyone under 40 (I'm 45 so maybe anyone under 50?) commenting on social media is a pretty acceptable thing to do.

            • OnceWasTim 14.3.2.2.1.1

              I couldn't possibly comment @ I feel love. I'm hanging out for the Gold Card in the not too distant, but @Wayne's conservatism and ideologically driven comments never seem to amaze me. He kind of reminds me of all those old radio dramas at times (like Doctor! Paul), alongside a few britiss comedy sketches. What a silly silly SILLY old duffer old boy.

              You can't describe him as a ponce because that implies those 'He's a gay' connotations. Having read him on all those social media platforms as well as his spray and walk away contributions on here, the best I can come up with is that he's a self-entitled ToryBoy with a supercilious attitude aattached.

              I'm sure he's a nice guy and I live in hope. Maybe he's just a 'late developer'.

              Meantime I hope 'Mother' – (aka woify), makes him a nice cuppa tea and alerts him to the next media gig he's called on to do.
              Edit, btw – he has his rivals – half of them are in that public service with gold-plated benefits he now seems so willing to criticise – even some heading academia (which maybe how he came – nahhhh too cruel)

        • dv 14.3.2.3

          ABOUT $10 pw over a 5 year life of the vehicle.!!!!!

        • Psycho Milt 14.3.2.4

          And your attitude shows why tradies and rural contractors will be looking to Winston Peters rather than the Greens for the fix.

          And here it is again: pay lip service to reducing greenhouse gas emissions and reducing environmental damage, while firmly resisting any attempt to actually reduce them. The only people who would describe hobbling environmental policies as "fixing" them are those who believe AGW isn't happening. It would be nice if right-wingers would at least be honest about that when commenting on the subject.

    • Incognito 14.4

      I get the point, which is that when you frame it like that, it evokes a different (emotive) reaction.

      I’m still not clear why you think it is a “mistake” to engage on FB. How is this different from engaging on Twitter, for example?

      It seems to me that JAG is correcting the misinformation spread around with the correct info and facts. She is not engaging in debate or discussion, as far as I can tell.

      After Stacey Kirk’s deplorable piece, it feels like a kneejerk reaction to me. Can National not handle facts?

  14. Pat 15

    This has nothing to do with economics and everything to do with ideology and demonstrates why politicians are so disdained….sadly logic will make no difference to attitudes so I suspect JAG is wasting her time and Waynes bogus argument will continue to echoed by those so inclined.

    Trump although extreme is not unique

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Apartments give new life to former Trade Training hostel
    A building that once shaped the Māori trade training industry will now revitalise the local community of Ōtautahi and provide much needed housing for whānau Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson announced today. The old Māori Trade Training hostel, Te Koti Te Rato, at Rehua Marae in Christchurch has been ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • Major step to pay parity for early learning teachers
    Certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education and care services will take another leap towards pay parity with their equivalents in kindergartens, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said in a pre-Budget announcement today. “Pay parity for education and care teachers is a manifesto commitment for Labour and is reflected ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago
  • New Zealand Wind Energy Conference
    Tēnā koutou katoa Tēnā koutou i runga i te kaupapa o te Rā No reira, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā tatou katoa  Thank you Grenville for the introduction and thanks to the organisers, the New Zealand Wind Energy Association, for inviting me to speak this morning. I’m delighted that you ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • Speech to New Zealand Drug Foundation 2021 Parliamentary Drug Policy Symposium
    Speech to Through the Maze: On the road to health New Zealand Drug Foundation 2021 Parliamentary Drug Policy Symposium Mōrena koutou katoa, Tēnei te mihi ki a koutou, Kua tae mai nei me ngā kete matauranga hauora, E whai hononga ai tatau katoa, Ka nui te mihi! Thank you for the opportunity ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago
  • Govt to deliver lower card fees to business
    Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister David Clark has today announced the Government’s next steps to reduce merchant service fees, that banks charge businesses when customers use a credit or debit card to pay, which is estimated to save New Zealand businesses approximately $74 million each year. “Pre COVID, EFTPOS has ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago
  • Government support boosts Arts and Culture sector
    Government support for the cultural sector to help it recover from the impact of COVID-19 has resulted in more cultural sector jobs predicted through to 2026, and the sector performing better than forecast. The latest forecast by economic consultancy ‘Infometrics’ reflects the impact of Government investment in keeping people in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Govt takes further action against gang crime
    The Government will make it illegal for high risk people to own firearms by introducing Firearms Prohibition Orders (FPOs) that will strengthen action already taken to combat the influence of gangs and organised crime to help keep New Zealanders and their families safe, Police Minister Poto Williams and Justice Minister ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Thousands of MIQ spaces allocated to secure economic recovery
    Five hundred spaces per fortnight will be allocated in managed isolation facilities over the next 10 months, many for skilled and critical workers to support our economic recovery, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins and Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor say. “The Trans-Tasman bubble has freed up more rooms, allowing us to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand Sign Language Week a chance to recognise national taonga
    This week (10 – 16 May 2021) is New Zealand Sign Language Week (NZSL), a nationwide celebration of NZSL as an official language of New Zealand. “We’re recognised as a world leader for our commitment to maintaining and furthering the use of our sign language,” says Minister for Disability Issues ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Economic resilience provides more options in Budget 2021
    Securing the recovery and investing in the wellbeing of New Zealanders is the focus of Budget 2021, Grant Robertson told his audience at a pre-budget speech in Auckland this morning. "The economy has proven resilient in response to COVID-19, due to people having confidence in the Government’s health response to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Pre-Budget speech to BNZ-Deloitte Auckland Breakfast Event
    Thank you for the invitation to speak to you today, and to share with you some of the Government’s thinking leading into this year’s budget. This will be my fourth time delivering the annual Budget for the Government, though the events of the past year have thrown out that calculation. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Rotuman Language week affirms language as the key to Pacific wellbeing
    The first Pacific Language Week this year  makes it clear that  language is the key to the wellbeing for all Pacific people said Minister for Pacific Peoples, Aupito William Sio. “This round of language  weeks begin with Rotuman. As I have always  said language is one of the pillars of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Budget delivers improved cervical and breast cancer screening
    Budget 2021 funds a more effective cervical screening test to help reduce cervical cancer rates A new breast screening system that can proactively identify and enrol eligible women to reach 271,000 more people who aren’t currently in the programme. Budget 2021 delivers a better cervical screening test and a major ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • NZ-France to co-chair Christchurch Call Leaders’ Summit
    New Zealand and France will jointly convene the Christchurch Call Community for a leaders’ summit, to take stock of progress and develop a new shared priority work plan. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and President Emmanuel Macron will co-chair the leaders’ meeting on the 2nd anniversary of the Call, on 14 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • New South Wales travel pause to be lifted tomorrow
    COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins says the current travel pause with New South Wales will lift tomorrow – subject to no further significant developments in NSW. “New Zealand health officials met today to conduct a further assessment of the public health risk from the recently identified COVID-19 community cases in Sydney. It has been determined that the risk to public ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • March 15 Collective Impact Board appointed
    The voices of those affected by the March 15 mosque attacks will be heard more effectively with the establishment of a new collective impact board, Associate Minister for Social Development and Employment Priyanca Radhakrishnan announced today. Seven members of the Christchurch Muslim community have been appointed to the newly established Board, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • More young Kiwis supported with mental health and addiction services
    Nearly quarter of a million more young New Zealanders will have access to mental health and addiction support in their communities as the Government’s youth mental health programme gathers pace. New contracts to expand youth-specific services across the Northland, Waitematā and Auckland District Health Board areas have been confirmed, providing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New hospital facilities mean fewer trips to Auckland for Northlanders
    Northlanders will no longer automatically have to go to Auckland for lifesaving heart procedures like angiograms, angioplasty and the insertion of pacemakers, thanks to new operating theatres and a cardiac catheter laboratory opened at Whangārei Hospital by Health Minister Andrew Little today. The two projects – along with a new ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Fair Pay Agreements to improve pay and conditions for essential workers
    The Government is delivering on its pre-election commitment to implement Fair Pay Agreements which will improve wages and conditions, as well as help support our economic recovery, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Michael Wood announced today. Fair Pay Agreements will set minimum standards for all employees and employers in an ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Establishment of the new Māori Health Authority takes first big step
    Sir Mason Durie will lead a Steering Group to provide advice to the Transition Unit on governance arrangements and initial appointments to an interim board to oversee the establishment of the Māori Health Authority. This Group will ensure that Māori shape a vital element of our future health system, Minister ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Cycle trails move up a gear in Central
    Work on new and upgraded cycle trails in Queenstown, Arrowtown and Central Otago is moving up a gear as two significant projects pass further milestones today. Tourism Minister Stuart Nash has announced new funding for the Queenstown Trails Project, and will also formally open the Lake Dunstan Trail at Bannockburn ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government gives households extra help to reduce their power bills
    Nine community energy education initiatives to help struggling New Zealanders with their power bills are being given government funding through the new Support for Energy Education in Communities (SEEC) Programme.   “Last year we committed nearly $8 million over four years to establish the SEEC Programme. This funding will help ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Picton ferry terminal upgrade consent fast-tracked
    The planned upgrade of the Waitohi Picton Ferry terminal has been approved under the fast-track consenting process.  Environment Minister David Parker today welcomed the decision by the expert consenting panel to approve the Waitohi Picton Ferry Precinct Redevelopment Project.    The project will provide a significant upgrade to the ferry facilities ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Quarantine Free Travel with New South Wales paused
    COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins has announced his intention to pause Quarantine Free Travel from New South Wales to New Zealand while the source of infection of the two cases announced in Sydney in the last two days is investigated.  Whole genome sequencing has linked the case yesterday to a recent ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Covid-19 immigration powers to be extended
    The passing of a bill to extend temporary COVID-19 immigration powers means continued flexibility to support migrants, manage the border, and help industries facing labour shortages, Immigration Minister Kris Faafoi said. “Over the past year, we’ve made rapid decisions to extend visas, vary visa conditions and waive some application requirements ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • “Supporting a Trade-Led Economic Recovery”
    Trade Policy Road Show SpeechManukau, Auckland   Kia ora koutou – nau mai, haere mai ki Manukau, ki Tāmaki.   Good morning everyone, and thank you for this opportunity to discuss with you current global challenges, opportunities and the Government’s strategy in support of a trade-led recovery from the economic ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Building consent numbers at an all-time high
    A record 41,028 new homes have been consented in the year ended March 2021 March 2021 consent numbers the highest since the 1940s Record number of new homes consented in Auckland The number of new homes consented is at an all-time high, showing a strong and increasing pipeline of demand ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Whānau-centred support for parents and tamariki
    Up to 60 whānau in Counties Manukau will be supported through the first three years of their parenthood by a new whānau-centred model of care, said Associate Health Minister, Hon Aupito William Sio. “Providing this support to young parents is something we have to get right. It’s a priority both ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • NZ backs moves to improve global access to COVID vaccines
    New Zealand welcomes and strongly supports the announcement made by the United States Trade Representative to work for a waiver of IP protections on COVID-19 vaccines at the WTO, Trade Minister Damien O’Connor said. “New Zealand supports equitable access to COVID vaccines for all. No one is safe from the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Tourism communities: support, recovery and re-set plan
    TIHEI MAURI ORA Tuia te whakapono Tuia te tumanako Tuia te aroha Tuia te hunga ora Ki te hunga ora Tihei Mauri ora Ka nui te mihi ki a koutou Tena koutou, tena koutou, tena koutou katoa. Thank you, Hilary and thank you, Chris, and everyone at TIA for this ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Support, recovery and re-set plan for tourism communities
    Five South Island tourist communities targeted for specialist support Pressure on Māori tourism operators and Conservation facilities recognised Domestic and international-facing tourism agencies put on more secure footing Long-term plan to re-set tourism with a focus on sustainability, industry standards and regional economic diversification A plan to ensure the immediate ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Speech on NZ Rail Plan
    Check against delivery E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā karanga maha o te wa, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā tātou katoa. Ki ngā mana whenua o Taranaki Whānui anō nei aku mihi ki a koutou. Nōku te hōnore kia haere mai ki te whakanuia tēnei huihuinga whakahirahira. Nō ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Government hits massive milestone in Violence Prevention & Elimination
    Minister for Family and Sexual Violence Marama Davidson announced a major milestone at a hui in South Auckland today, with the launch of the national engagement process on the prevention and elimination of family and sexual violence. “There is no room for violence in our lives – there is no ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Fee waiver extended for conservation tourism businesses
    Tourism businesses operating on public conservation land will have another six months of fees waived to help them adjust to the downturn in international visitors in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, Acting Minister of Conservation Dr Ayesha Verrall has announced. "We acknowledge it has been a difficult year for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • ‘Lua Wave’ to future-proof Pasifika Festivals in Aotearoa
    Pasifika festival organisers will receive additional support to adapt to the COVID-19 environment thanks to the Government’s newly launched ‘Lua Wave’ component of the Pasifika Festivals Initiative, Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Carmel Sepuloni announced today. “This initiative has not only been to support festival organisers to recover from ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Crown accounts show confidence in Govt economic plan
    The Government’s financial accounts continue to reflect the resilience of the economy and confidence in the Government’s economic recovery plan. The Crown accounts for the nine months to the end of March 2021 show both OBEGAL and the operating balance remain better than forecast in the Half Year Economic and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Energy Trusts of NZ Autumn Conference
    It’s a pleasure to be here today. Thank you Karen [Sherry] for the introduction and thanks to the Energy Trusts Executive for inviting me to speak at tonight’s event. It is an exciting time to come to speak to trustees of distribution companies. For many decades the electricity industry was ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • New partnership to grow Māori success in STEM
    A new partnership with the Pūhoro STEM Academy will support thousands more rangatahi Māori to participate and succeed in the fields of science, technology, and innovation, Associate Education Minister Kelvin Davis announced today. Since 2016, Pūhoro has worked with Māori students to build their capability and create pathways to employment ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Rail builds platform for economic recovery
    Transport Minister Michael Wood and State-Owned Enterprises Minister Dr David Clark today released the Government’s long term vision for a sustainable rail network that supports our economic recovery. New Zealand Rail Plan lays out how the Government is building a resilient, reliable and safe network, as well as the indicative ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • NZ and UK agree to lift the pace of free trade talks
    New Zealand and the United Kingdom have agreed to rapidly lift the tempo of talks, as the two countries enter a new phase in free trade negotiations, Trade and Export Growth Minister Damien O’Connor announced today. “UK Secretary of State for International Trade, Liz Truss, and I spoke today about ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago