Fun in parliament. Marama was naughty, so the Speaker kicked her out. Seymour pretended to ask a question in Maori. The Speaker pointed out it wasn't a question (he's Maori). Then Seymour questioned the PM, (via the Speaker as translator):
Rurawhe rephrased the question for him in English, asking Hipkins: “To you, do you consider me to be Māori?” Hipkins said it was up to Seymour to work out his own ethnicity.
Parliament (every single member) gave the right to all those not born female to self-identify as a transgender woman (including change to their birth certificate).
Any person who now stands by the historic definition of a women (an adult born female) is denying the legal status of other citizens.
Which is the whole issue of whether biological sex (traditional) and gender identity (current).
While traditionalists praise Sunak of the UK for his answer, there is the disturbing willingness to disregard the legal status of transgender women in the UK, How many other UK citizens are "fair game", say because they do not conform to some "traditionalists/traditions" perspective?
This I also could not edit, I am facing a block on what I can post on this topic from either wordpress (or GSCB).
International sports are able to ensure fair competition and exclude transgender women. Local sport can do the same on grounds of player safety.
Lesbian groups might seek the rights of religious groups (who do not have to approve of same sex relationships or marry same sex couples) and be able exclude those not born females.
Then there are refuges, the easiest regime would be to allow management to exclude anyone seen as a risk – they might include transgender men (born female) and transitioned transgender women but exclude sociopath misogynists self- identifying as women – which could include ex husbands or those drunk or on drugs.
Then it is onto the changing room (community and school sport) and bathroom issue.
Any person who now stands by the historic definition of a women (an adult born female) is denying the legal status of other citizens.
Not really. There is such a thing as female. Women is the word that most people use to name females. Female a category exists irrespective of what a country's laws say. It's not something that can be redefined any more than we could say water is made of fire and have it make sense.
This is why some people talk about the legal fiction of gender identity. It's something intended to make the lives of trans people easier, it's not supposed to be taken literally (we come up hard against this in medicine).
Further, the self ID law in NZ simply allows trans people to change the sex on their birth certificate in a more straight forward way. The law doesn't say that trans women are literally female. DIA has said that women will still be able to have single sex spaces and services, and that it's up to service providers to determine their own policies (birth certificates aren't the be all and end all). In other words, the birth cert doesn't act as a gender recognition certificate.
Questions about the implications of self-identification for service providers
What does the new law say about how service providers should consider birth certificates as evidence of sex or gender?
The new legislation clarifies how birth certificates can be used as evidence of sex or gender. Where service providers need to determine someone’s sex or gender, other factors can be considered over and above the registered sex listed on a birth certificate. This reflects the fact that birth certificates are not intended to be considered evidence of a person’s identity (usually birth certificates are provided with other documents such as a driver licence or passports to prove identity).
What does self-identification mean for single sex spaces and activities such as changing rooms and sports teams?
The self-identification process should not affect how access to single sex spaces or sports is determined. Birth certificates are not usually used to determine a person’s right to access single sex services or spaces.
Organisations and individuals can continue to rely on their own policies rather than birth certificates. For example, it is still up to individual governing bodies to determine how sex and gender are determined in sport. It is also still up to individual schools to discuss with learners, parents, caregivers and whānau what name and gender learners use, regardless of the details on their birth certificates.
How will self-identification affect the placement of people in prison?
The self-identification process should not affect the placement of people in prison. Corrections is exploring a policy change to ensure birth certificates are not an overriding consideration in placement decisions. Any changes will come into force alongside the self-identification process.
What we don't know is how social pressures will change single sex spaces and services. Self ID is both a legal change and a social one. We also don't know if there will be legal challenges to single sex status.
Which is the whole issue of whether biological sex (traditional) and gender identity (current).
Again, biological sex exists independently of anything humans say on the matter.
While traditionalists praise Sunak of the UK for his answer, there is the disturbing willingness to disregard the legal status of transgender women in the UK, How many other UK citizens are "fair game", say because they do not conform to some "traditionalists/traditions" perspective?
The UK situation is different from the NZ one. They do have a gender recognition certificate process, as well as protections for trans people in line with the rest of the population. They also recognise biological sex. They don't have self-ID in law (getting a GCR still requires a formal process rather than a simple declaration).
I'm not sure what you mean by fair game. Some trans people in the UK have different legal status than other trans people because of the GRC.
An article on the current circumstance in the UK, as to biological sex and legal sex/GRC impasse – yet to be resolved. Sunak's government is inclined to the former, as indicated in his answer to the definition question.
Labour's – position shows where the consensus might be
Another issue likely to figure in the general election is trans rights. “It is of legitimate concern for women that their rights in law to sex-segregated spaces, to their safety, to their dignity, are respected,” Mahmood says. “I don’t think it’s appropriate for anybody to try and imply that their worries or their concerns are non-existent, or not real, or that they are motivated by bad faith.”
Labour is committed to single-sex spaces, she says, including in the prison system, in domestic violence refuges, and sport. She welcomes the review of the Equality Act triggered this week by Kemi Badenoch and the Equality and Human Rights Commission, saying that when Labour passed the legislation “there was an acceptance that in most scenarios the law would treat trans women exactly the same as women but there would also be other scenarios in which it’s appropriate for there to be a distinction between what trans women can access and what women can access”.
I would have thought it obvious. The relevance of reference to the legal definition when speaking as PM.
Sunak's answer to the question has lead to focus on the legal standing there of those with GRC.
The legal meaning of woman, as per single sex spaces, can have real world impact.
I am sure you are aware of the court case in Oz – Sall vs the trojan horse (not a real transgender woman) and the one in the US (another trojan horse, also not a real transgender woman) where a human rights body adjudicated on access to a woman's spa.
the legal situations in the UK, Australia and NZ are all different from each other, because we each have different sets of legislation. Which is why I’ve asked you below to quote the specific legislation and clause that you believe defines what a woman is.
Sunak's answer to the question has lead to focus on the legal standing there of those with GRC.
Kind of. That conversation has been going on for a while. Both Labour and the Conservatives are in a mess over this, which is a direct result of ignoring women who were raising the issues for years. Further, Stonewall etc have been lobbying to remove sex from law in the UK, that's a big part of why this is coming to a head.
When I use the term "not a real transgender woman" I am doing so cogniscient of 4chan and 8chan (Q “birther movement”central) operations to manipulate incels to two extremes – one is the celibate proud boys and the other are the "trojan horses" who claim access to women's spaces via self ID). These are people who wear dresses and falsies on a periodic basis (and have taken no hormones). Their purpose is to war on both liberalism and feminism – divide liberal women against liberal women.
The laws an arse then , gay people identify as gay, transgender people can identify as transgender, that's far more honest than trying to erase the fact that they are genetically or mentally wired differently!
Own it be proud of it , don't steel womans identity and erase natural born womans existence.
My advice is to stop with the silly comments (cheap shots) about the PM's answer to the question without regard to the wider circumstance in which he was doing so.
And once again note, all parties in parliament supported the legislation.
PS There is no difference between legislative and common determination on Maori identity (ancestry).
No. Merely that a PM needs to be mindful of parliamentary legislation, as to who is legally a woman when answering a question as PM.
I note you refer to an adult person, born male, who now identifies as female, as a transgender man. Have you heard of Ellen now Elliot Page and Camille Paglia, both former lesbians who identify as transgender men?
I don't care about who wants to identify as what and whether I've got what's a transgender male vs transgender female arse about face.
Unless you where born with a vagina and a womb, (I allow there's bound to be the odd birth defects that doesn't entirely fit) you are not and never will be a woman,
As I said transgender people are best to own it and be proud, not lie to themselves
My advice is to stop with the silly comments (cheap shots) about the PM's answer to the question without regard to the wider circumstance in which he was doing so.
He was asked a question he was clearly unprepared for. That in itself is remarkable given how big an issue this has been for Labour in the UK.
The wider circumstance in NZ is that people are afraid to say adult human female and we have active No Debate. That would partly explain why Hipkins didn't know what to say.
But we also know from the UK that eventually public pressure will force MPs to answer the question in a meaningful rather than avoiding way. There are far more people who think woman = AHF, than who think TW are literally women. The issue in NZ is how much bullshit we have to go through and how much damage will be done getting there, because we can have an adult conversation about the issues.
I'm not aware of any legislation in NZ that would require the PM to say woman is anyone who identifies as a woman, as opposed to saying that “woman = adult human female, and in addition we have trans women who are a distinct class of people who also need to be recognised. Both groups have rights specific to them that need work to be upheld”.
I doubt this as for years in NZ the test has been being able to whakapapa back to an eponymous Maori ancestor, or meet the tests to enrol on the Maori Roll and from my understanding Seymour is able to do this as do many other Pakeha-looking NZers.
There would be 'hell to pay' if blood quantum or similar was used in this day & age.
And even a relatively small amount of Maori will be enough to trigger/predispose towards some diseases. A friend whose gt grandmother was Indian from the sub continent was advised to always advise medicos of this ancestry as there are certain diseases that are more common in Indians.
On the other hand, Seymour still has only one electoral and one party vote if he's on the Maori roll. He won't be able to vote for himself in Epsom then.
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Labour calls on the Government to act after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territories is illegal. ...
The 53.7 percent rise in benefit sanctions over the last year is more proof of this Government’s disdain for our communities most in need of support. ...
Aotearoa could be a country where every child grows up feeling safe, loved and with a sense of belonging in their whānau and community. But for some of our children, this is far from reality. Instead, they are trapped in a maze of intergenerational harm that they can’t escape on ...
Te Pāti Māori are calling for David Seymour to resign as Associate Health Minister in response to his call for Pharmac to ignore the Treaty of Waitangi. “This announcement is just another example of the government’s anti-Tiriti, anti-Māori agenda.” Said Co-leader and spokesperson for health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. “Seymour thinks it ...
The soaring price of renting is driving the rise of inflation in this country - with latest figures from Stats NZ showing rents are up 4.8 per cent on average while annual inflation is at 3.3 per cent. ...
National’s Emissions Reduction Plan will take New Zealand further from the economy we need to ensure the next generation has a stable climate and secure livelihoods. ...
Following consultation with named parties and thorough consideration of privacy interests, the Green Party is in a position to release the Executive Summary of the final report from the independent investigation into Darleen Tana. ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon should be asking serious questions of his Minister for Resources Shane Jones now it’s been revealed he misled the public about a dinner with mining companies that he didn’t declare and said wasn’t pre-arranged. ...
Te Pāti Māori have submitted to the Justice Select Committee against the Sentencing (Reinstating Three Strikes) Amendment Bill. The bill will further entrench racism in our justice system and fails to focus on rehabilitation. “Reinstating Three Strikes will empower a systematically racist system and exacerbate the overrepresentation of Māori in ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee is set to make a determination on the Residential Tenancies Amendment (RTA) Bill in the coming weeks. “This legislation will give landlords the power to kick our whānau out onto the street for no reason” said Housing spokesperson, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “Their solution to the housing ...
“National’s campaign was about tackling crime and the best they can do is a two-year long Ministerial Advisory Group,” Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
“There are more examples of charter schools failing their students than there are success stories. The coalition Government is driving to dismantle our public school system and instead promote a privatised, competitive structure that puts profits before kids,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
“This government is choosing to deliberately mislead and withhold information, keeping our people in the dark about this government’s agenda and the future of our mokopuna,” said co-leader and spokesperson for Health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. The call comes after the demand from the Chief Ombudsman that Associate Minister of Health, Casey ...
“Today’s climate announcement by Simon Watts makes clear the National Government is simply paying lip service to meeting its climate change targets,” Megan Woods said. ...
National is choosing to make life harder for workers by taking away the rights our communities have fought hard for. Here's how they’re taking workers backwards. ...
Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on the need for an urgent ceasefire in Gaza and the risk of expanded conflict between Hizballah and Israel. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue. We remain unequivocal in our condemnation of ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today reminded all State and faith-based institutions of their legal obligation to preserve records relevant to the safety and wellbeing of those in its care. “The Abuse in Care Inquiry’s report has found cases where records of the most vulnerable people in State and faith‑based institutions were ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government’s online safety website for children and young people has reached one million page views. “It is great to see so many young people and their families accessing the site Keep It Real Online to learn how to stay safe online, and manage ...
Tēnā tātou katoa, Ngā mihi te rangi, ngā mihi te whenua, ngā mihi ki a koutou, kia ora mai koutou. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and the invitation to speak at this 50th anniversary conference. I acknowledge all those who have gone before us and paved the ...
New Zealand’s payroll providers have successfully prepared to ensure 3.5 million individuals will, from Wednesday next week, be able to keep more of what they earn each pay, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Revenue Minister Simon Watts. “The Government's tax policy changes are legally effective from Wednesday. Delivering this tax ...
An experimental vineyard which will help futureproof the wine sector has been opened in Blenheim by Associate Regional Development Minister Mark Patterson. The covered vineyard, based at the New Zealand Wine Centre – Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa, enables controlled environmental conditions. “The research that will be produced at the Experimental ...
The Coalition Government has confirmed the indicative regional breakdown of North Island Weather Event (NIWE) funding for state highway recovery projects funded through Budget 2024, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Regions in the North Island suffered extensive and devastating damage from Cyclone Gabrielle and the 2023 Auckland Anniversary Floods, and ...
Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Retno Marsudi, will visit New Zealand next week, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “Indonesia is important to New Zealand’s security and economic interests and is our closest South East Asian neighbour,” says Mr Peters, who is currently in Laos to engage with South East Asian partners. ...
He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting the aspirations of Ngāti Maniapoto, Minister for Māori Development Tama Potaka says. “My thanks to Te Nehenehenui Trust – Ngāti Maniapoto for bringing their important kōrero to a ministerial ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has thanked outgoing Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority, Janice Fredric, for her service to the board.“I have received Ms Fredric’s resignation from the role of Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority,” Mr Brown says.“On behalf of the Government, I want to thank Ms Fredric for ...
The Government is proposing legislation to overturn a Court of Appeal decision and amend the Marine and Coastal Area Act in order to restore Parliament’s test for Customary Marine Title, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Section 58 required an applicant group to prove they have exclusively used and occupied ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour says that opposition parties have united in bad faith, opposing what they claim are ‘dangerous changes’ to the Early Childhood Education sector, despite no changes even being proposed yet. “Issues with affordability and availability of early childhood education, and the complexity of its regulation, has led ...
After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks. “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. At the heart of this report are the ...
For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024. “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane. “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says. “This will be our third visit to ...
Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today. “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum. While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation. “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan. “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
Acting Prime Minister David Seymour has been in contact throughout the evening with senior officials who have coordinated a whole of government response to the global IT outage and can provide an update. The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet has designated the National Emergency Management Agency as the ...
New Zealand and Japan will continue to step up their shared engagement with the Pacific, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “New Zealand and Japan have a strong, shared interest in a free, open and stable Pacific Islands region,” Mr Peters says. “We are pleased to be finding more ways ...
New developments in the heart of North Island forestry country will reinvigorate their communities and boost economic development, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones visited Kaingaroa and Kawerau in Bay of Plenty today to open a landmark community centre in the former and a new connecting road in ...
President Adeang, fellow Ministers, honourable Diet Member Horii, Ambassadors, distinguished guests. Minasama, konnichiwa, and good afternoon, everyone. Distinguished guests, it’s a pleasure to be here with you today to talk about New Zealand’s foreign policy reset, the reasons for it, the values that underpin it, and how it ...
Last summer when Matairangi burned, Ginny and Tom stood at the window of their lounge, watching kākā shoot skyward from the burning trees. From the distance, they looked to Ginny like pages torn from books and thrown into a bonfire. It was Tom, voice tight, who told her it was ...
Opinion: The Canadian short story writer Alice Munro – winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2013 – died in May at the age of 92. Her work was about “the damage people inflict on one another in the name of love”, Deborah Treisman wrote in the New Yorker. ...
This month marks two years since the most powerful telescope ever built sent its first pictures back to earth. From its lofty vantage point, beyond the moon in orbit around the sun, the James Webb Space Telescope was tuned to observe the first stars and galaxies being born soon after ...
Comment: After Climate Change Minister Simon Watts’ preview several weeks ago, I had some optimism about the Government’s emissions reduction plan. Now I’ve read the discussion document, that hope has been dashed. How can the Government propose a plan that wants to take New Zealand taxpayers’ hard-earned money, and spend ...
Christopher Luxon: hurdles The little man from National jumps hurdles in his sleep. He’s quite good at it in his dreams and even though the reality doesn’t quite match up you have to give him credit for getting up every morning and crashing into the very first hurdle of the ...
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Celebrating our quadrennial opportunity to become experts in a bunch of sports we never normally watch.The games of the XXXIII Olympiad are upon us. Paris will host this year’s showcase of sporting and athletic prowess, which means some late-night and early-morning viewing for us in Aotearoa.But what sports ...
The photograph is striking and beautiful, but also disturbing – a reminder that my love for John was often entangled in shame.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.In the spring of 1980, in Dunedin, shortly before his death, someone took a photograph ...
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Pacific Media Watch A Lebanese photojournalist who was severely wounded during an Israeli air strike in south Lebanon carried the Olympic torch in Paris this week in honour of her peers who have been wounded and killed in the field — especially in Gaza and Lebanon. Christina Assi of Agence ...
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Christopher Luxon has joined with Australia and Canada's leaders in voicing support for US President Joe Biden's ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas. ...
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In The Week in Politics: politicians have to decide what to do about child abuse, Health NZ is booked in for major surgery and Darleen Tana returns. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Clare Corbould, Associate Professor, Contemporary Histories Research Group, Deakin University Mainstream media are surprisingly muted at the prospect of the world’s most powerful nation being led for the first time by a woman – specifically a woman of colour, Vice President Kamala ...
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The Abuse in Care report found many Pacific survivors lost their connections to their culture and language, resulting in trauma that has been carried from generation to generation. ...
In the regulatory review, ECC intends to suggest that ERO focus on curriculum delivery reviews rather than the Ministry, because it’s not efficient or effective to have two agencies with radically different approaches climbing over each other. ...
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Fun in parliament. Marama was naughty, so the Speaker kicked her out. Seymour pretended to ask a question in Maori. The Speaker pointed out it wasn't a question (he's Maori). Then Seymour questioned the PM, (via the Speaker as translator):
Damn good response, I thought!![yes yes](https://cdn2.thestandard.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/ark-wysiwyg-comment-editor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/thumbs_up.png?x42494)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132370840/watch-act-leaders-reo-mori-backfires-green-coleader-booted-from-the-house
Could be a valid question as hipkins isn't sure what a woman is!!
Who is the PM to question parliament's law?
Parliament (every single member) gave the right to all those not born female to self-identify as a transgender woman (including change to their birth certificate).
Any person who now stands by the historic definition of a women (an adult born female) is denying the legal status of other citizens.
Which is the whole issue of whether biological sex (traditional) and gender identity (current).
While traditionalists praise Sunak of the UK for his answer, there is the disturbing willingness to disregard the legal status of transgender women in the UK, How many other UK citizens are "fair game", say because they do not conform to some "traditionalists/traditions" perspective?
Why was I unable to edit this within the 10 minutes?
This I also could not edit, I am facing a block on what I can post on this topic from either wordpress (or GSCB).
International sports are able to ensure fair competition and exclude transgender women. Local sport can do the same on grounds of player safety.
Lesbian groups might seek the rights of religious groups (who do not have to approve of same sex relationships or marry same sex couples) and be able exclude those not born females.
to continue
Then there are refuges, the easiest regime would be to allow management to exclude anyone seen as a risk – they might include transgender men (born female) and transitioned transgender women but exclude sociopath misogynists self- identifying as women – which could include ex husbands or those drunk or on drugs.
Then it is onto the changing room (community and school sport) and bathroom issue.
Not really. There is such a thing as female. Women is the word that most people use to name females. Female a category exists irrespective of what a country's laws say. It's not something that can be redefined any more than we could say water is made of fire and have it make sense.
This is why some people talk about the legal fiction of gender identity. It's something intended to make the lives of trans people easier, it's not supposed to be taken literally (we come up hard against this in medicine).
Further, the self ID law in NZ simply allows trans people to change the sex on their birth certificate in a more straight forward way. The law doesn't say that trans women are literally female. DIA has said that women will still be able to have single sex spaces and services, and that it's up to service providers to determine their own policies (birth certificates aren't the be all and end all). In other words, the birth cert doesn't act as a gender recognition certificate.
https://www.dia.govt.nz/bdmreview—Frequently-asked-questions
What we don't know is how social pressures will change single sex spaces and services. Self ID is both a legal change and a social one. We also don't know if there will be legal challenges to single sex status.
Again, biological sex exists independently of anything humans say on the matter.
The UK situation is different from the NZ one. They do have a gender recognition certificate process, as well as protections for trans people in line with the rest of the population. They also recognise biological sex. They don't have self-ID in law (getting a GCR still requires a formal process rather than a simple declaration).
I'm not sure what you mean by fair game. Some trans people in the UK have different legal status than other trans people because of the GRC.
An article on the current circumstance in the UK, as to biological sex and legal sex/GRC impasse – yet to be resolved. Sunak's government is inclined to the former, as indicated in his answer to the definition question.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/09/at-last-consensus-emerging-on-protecting-women-only-spaces
Labour's – position shows where the consensus might be
https://archive.ph/P35aP#selection-999.0-1007.396
I know what the situation in the UK is, I'm just not sure what your point is.
I would have thought it obvious. The relevance of reference to the legal definition when speaking as PM.
Sunak's answer to the question has lead to focus on the legal standing there of those with GRC.
The legal meaning of woman, as per single sex spaces, can have real world impact.
I am sure you are aware of the court case in Oz – Sall vs the trojan horse (not a real transgender woman) and the one in the US (another trojan horse, also not a real transgender woman) where a human rights body adjudicated on access to a woman's spa.
the legal situations in the UK, Australia and NZ are all different from each other, because we each have different sets of legislation. Which is why I’ve asked you below to quote the specific legislation and clause that you believe defines what a woman is.
Kind of. That conversation has been going on for a while. Both Labour and the Conservatives are in a mess over this, which is a direct result of ignoring women who were raising the issues for years. Further, Stonewall etc have been lobbying to remove sex from law in the UK, that's a big part of why this is coming to a head.
I should try and do a post on Tickle vs Giggle. But the Australian law is both complicated and daft in terms of how it treats women.
What is a "real transgender woman"? Under self-ID, anyone who says they are a transgender woman is a transgender woman, surely?
Yes under self ID.
When I use the term "not a real transgender woman" I am doing so cogniscient of 4chan and 8chan (Q “birther movement”central) operations to manipulate incels to two extremes – one is the celibate proud boys and the other are the "trojan horses" who claim access to women's spaces via self ID). These are people who wear dresses and falsies on a periodic basis (and have taken no hormones). Their purpose is to war on both liberalism and feminism – divide liberal women against liberal women.
The laws an arse then , gay people identify as gay, transgender people can identify as transgender, that's far more honest than trying to erase the fact that they are genetically or mentally wired differently!
Own it be proud of it , don't steel womans identity and erase natural born womans existence.
My advice is to stop with the silly comments (cheap shots) about the PM's answer to the question without regard to the wider circumstance in which he was doing so.
And once again note, all parties in parliament supported the legislation.
PS There is no difference between legislative and common determination on Maori identity (ancestry).
My advise is pull your head out of your arse, and realise that governments world wide have been gripped by stupidity, a man can never be a woman ,
So you move from making taking cheap shots about the PM, to anyone who calls you on it. Classy.
PS Your opinion about the issue is noted, but not relevant to the points I have made.
My point was very relevant,
Hipkins did himself and every woman in nz a disservice when he failed to show a hint of spine ,when asked a very simple question.
You can be as Condescending as you want ,but you are wrong,and history will show you are wrong once the fools wake up.
On what I am wrong?
"Who is the pm to question parliaments law"
You make it sound like it's illegal for Hipkins to confirm that a woman is not a transgender man.
No. Merely that a PM needs to be mindful of parliamentary legislation, as to who is legally a woman when answering a question as PM.
I note you refer to an adult person, born male, who now identifies as female, as a transgender man. Have you heard of Ellen now Elliot Page and Camille Paglia, both former lesbians who identify as transgender men?
I don't care about who wants to identify as what and whether I've got what's a transgender male vs transgender female arse about face.
Unless you where born with a vagina and a womb, (I allow there's bound to be the odd birth defects that doesn't entirely fit) you are not and never will be a woman,
As I said transgender people are best to own it and be proud, not lie to themselves
can you please quote and link to the specific NZ legislation clause that defines who is legally a woman?
Inferred and not specified – check the opt outs.
Note that this act only has sex, and not gender as a category.
Either they have no human rights, or it comes under sex.
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0082/latest/DLM304475.html
He was asked a question he was clearly unprepared for. That in itself is remarkable given how big an issue this has been for Labour in the UK.
The wider circumstance in NZ is that people are afraid to say adult human female and we have active No Debate. That would partly explain why Hipkins didn't know what to say.
But we also know from the UK that eventually public pressure will force MPs to answer the question in a meaningful rather than avoiding way. There are far more people who think woman = AHF, than who think TW are literally women. The issue in NZ is how much bullshit we have to go through and how much damage will be done getting there, because we can have an adult conversation about the issues.
I'm not aware of any legislation in NZ that would require the PM to say woman is anyone who identifies as a woman, as opposed to saying that “woman = adult human female, and in addition we have trans women who are a distinct class of people who also need to be recognised. Both groups have rights specific to them that need work to be upheld”.
He has little choice until the HRA is changed to specify a difference between biological women and transgender women etc.
They have the Equality Act of 2010 and we have the the HRA.
please point to the specific part of the HRA that prohibits the PM from talking about AHF.
Who said he was prohibited from saying anything?
All I have said, the PM has to be mindful of the legal position.
Sunak said stuff that led to the moves towards a clarification of their EA 2010 legal meaning.
Our HRA does not distinguish between biological women and the transgender woman. It just says sex.
More important is likely to be 'do Te Whatu Ora' consider Seymour Maori?
I doubt this as for years in NZ the test has been being able to whakapapa back to an eponymous Maori ancestor, or meet the tests to enrol on the Maori Roll and from my understanding Seymour is able to do this as do many other Pakeha-looking NZers.
There would be 'hell to pay' if blood quantum or similar was used in this day & age.
And even a relatively small amount of Maori will be enough to trigger/predispose towards some diseases. A friend whose gt grandmother was Indian from the sub continent was advised to always advise medicos of this ancestry as there are certain diseases that are more common in Indians.
On the other hand, Seymour still has only one electoral and one party vote if he's on the Maori roll. He won't be able to vote for himself in Epsom then.
Poll update from Claire Trevett: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/talbot-mills-poll-shows-bounce-back-for-labour-bad-news-for-nationals-christopher-luxon-and-nz-first/ZKKVRXRJ6VEZLGEFU6YWXOGSII/
Point of interest: NZF hasn't disappeared – as was suggested by disinformation the other day. Same old same old: Nat & Lab pollsters both show their parties in front…
I know we're not a presidential system, but really luxon just comes across as so poorly equipped to represent nz I dread hom winning.
(That and national =act in government)
First he owned a Tesla. Then his wife owned it. Now he's upgraded and claimed the clean car discount, again.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/national-leader-christopher-luxon-appears-to-have-claimed-clean-car-discount-on-new-tesla.html
No surprises there,
Oh I get it!! It is our taxpayer money "till he spends it…. then it is "None of our business" Tui there!! He is a bloody fraud.![angry angry](https://cdn2.thestandard.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/ark-wysiwyg-comment-editor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/angry_smile.png?x42494)
The missing Titanic tourist submersible was being controlled with an off-brand PlayStation controller. At $250K/ghoul you'd think they could afford an upgrade to PS5 controller.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/submarines-final-ping-suggests-vessel-could-be-trapped-within-the-titanic-wreckage/news-story/c4d784af7a528e372afb6b08fa3f97e7
guardian video 20/6
This is a follow-on from Robert Smith's free pass in the 2020 ADF investigation of Afghan war crimes.
"Lambie says senior brass have not been investigated over alleged war crimes and she has referred senior commanders to the international criminal court (ICC) in The Hague. 'The government is no doubt hoping this will all just go away. They're hoping that Australians will forget that when alleged war crimes in Afghanistan were investigated, our senior commanders got a free pass while our diggers were thrown under the bus,' she said.”
Further guardian article on Lambie's motion, with government response