web analytics

David Seymour can’t handle criticism

Written By: - Date published: 8:21 am, January 14th, 2019 - 112 comments
Categories: act, child welfare, david seymour, education, schools, the praiseworthy and the pitiful, you couldn't make this shit up - Tags:

Poor old David Seymour and the ACT party. Becoming more and more irrelevant and facing extinction. What is it meant to do?

How about being obnoxious on social media?

It started off with a simple tweet suggesting that cigarette taxes had increased robberies.

 

 Good old laura norda stuff, the sort of thing supposedly Libertarian right wing parties have done for ever.

Dianne Khan who runs the Save Our Schools website asked a very simple question.

But this was met with this amazing response from David Seymour.

And a gentle attempt at humour by Dianne received this treatment.

But wait there was more.

Where was this evidence that Dianne Khan has been so awful to David Seymour. I went for a look at the Save Our Schools website to see what I could find out. There was this example:

Save Our Schools feels a response to David Seymour’s Questions for Kelvin, Willie and Peeni should include a few relevant facts. This seems to be something Mr Seymour routinely ignores in his communiques.

First, his comment about Maori educational achievement being so utterly abysmal.

Using the Government’s main system level metric, called School Leavers, Māori achievement has been increasing steadily for many years. In 2016, 66.5% of Māori students left school with at least NCEA Level 2 or higher, the benchmark used by the government for the minimum desired level of qualification. This compares to a similar figure of 45.7% in 2009, an encouraging increase of 20.8 percentage points in 7 years.

In contrast, only 59.7% of charter school leavers left school in 2016 with at least NCEA Level 2 or higher. Furthermore, it was disappointing to see that no less than 20.2% of 2016 leavers from charter schools left without even attaining NCEA Level 1.

Second, his comments on charter school funding always require clarification. Charter schools receive much more funding than the LOCAL schools that they were set up to compete against. This gives them an advantage compared to the much bigger, more established schools in places such as South Auckland.

Save Our Schools analysed the 2015 financial statements of South Auckland Middle School (SAMS) and its local counterpart, Manurewa Intermediate. SAMS received $11,740 of funding per student after paying the rent for its premises. In contrast, Manurewa Intermediate received funding of $5,907 per student, with its property provided by the Crown.

This simple analysis destroys the myth perpetuated by charter school supporters that there were not serious problems with the original charter school funding model. Some of these problems were corrected when the funding formula was revised but the early schools still enjoy the benefit of being locked in to the overly generous original model.


Yep jammed full of, er, critical analysis and facts.

I am not surprised Seymour does not want to engage with Khan. Having someone point out so clearly why you are wrong and the reasons for it can’t be a very enjoyable experience.

And this final tweet is for you David.

 

112 comments on “David Seymour can’t handle criticism ”

  1. Morrissey 1

    Why can’t people from the ACT cult dance? I believe it has something to do with guilty feet having no rhythm….

    http://www.recipeapart.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/55ffd0ef0f2a4f2f0375.jpeg

    • Tricledrown 1.1

      Because they are robots they just repeat dogma

      • Morrissey 1.1.1

        Correct. Guilty feet ain’t got no rhythm, as we see here….

      • NZJester 1.1.2

        They are not robots, they are puppets on strings spouting the less popular National Party dogma. National used them to pretend it was not National Party policy but a second party forcing them into it.

  2. You_Fool 2

    I was wondering why Rimmer was so upset with this person, then I realised it was because she had logic and facts and figures, and Rimmer has none…

    I also like that as a champion of free speech he doesn’t like having actual debates over his ideas

  3. Pete 3

    I know some people think David Seymour is a jerk. I know some people think he’s God because he sponsored a bill allowing bars to open and televise the 2015 Rugby World Cup games in the early hours of the morning.

    The petulance and arrogance displayed on here won’t make one iota of difference to him being Epsom MP.

    • mickysavage 3.1

      This particular incident won’t make any difference. ACT is completely and utterly dependent on National’s generosity. But one day National will realise that ACT is not worth the bother.

      • Tricledrown 3.1.1

        Mickey they need Nationals govt provided welfare to survive. Budging on the State. Euthanasia bill is Seymour only lifeline Ironically. Conservative Christians hate this bill and they will not turn up to vote rather than vote for Parties who support this legislation. Seymour is a plonker a hologram. Hollowman.

      • Gosman 3.1.2

        What purpose would it serve National to cut ACT off? They aren’t damaged by the relationship with ACT and they provide a useful ally in Parliament even with a single MP.

        • arkie 3.1.2.1

          In your opinion.

          • Robert Glennie 3.1.2.1.1

            An opinion with evidence to back it up.

            If National wanted to cut A.C.T. they would have done it by now. They could have for example asked people to vote for Paul Goldsmith in Epsom so that David Seymour would lose the race and be made to exit Parliament. They did not.

            I think that was the idea of New Zealand First in Epsom to instigate such a campaign if it meant A.C.T.’s demise.

        • AB 3.1.2.2

          Quite right Gosman. No way National will cut off ACT unless they believe their association with ACT damages them more than it benefits them. Right now it doesn’t.
          IMO National are more likely to create additional weirdo, nutter parties and keep them on life support as perhaps their only way back to power. Every safe National electorate seat can potentially be Epsomised.
          Nats are driven by power and money. Something as trifling as democracy is nothing compared to power and money.

          • alwyn 3.1.2.2.1

            “IMO National are more likely to create additional weirdo, nutter parties and keep them on life support as perhaps their only way back to power.”

            Well it might be worth a try.
            With very few words changed you get the following, and that has worked for the Labour Party.
            “IMO Labour are more likely to create additional weirdo, nutter parties like the Greens and keep them on life support as perhaps their only way to ever hold power”.

            And give the real power to Tsar Winston, of course.

            • In Vino 3.1.2.2.1.1

              Personally, I prefer the older spelling ‘Czar’. But you bring yourself into ridicule by your thin pretence that Winston has any such powers. Jacinda would now be dead if he had powers like that, as you well know. The Czars were utterly despotic, and Stalin followed suit, as their successor, despite the idealistic revolution..

              • alwyn

                “The Czars were utterly despotic,”.
                Utter rubbish. Stalin certainly was but the Tsars were angelic in comparison with him.

                As for “idealistic revolution”. That might have been the case in the February Revolution but it certainly wasn’t the case in October when the Bolsheviks took over.

                Stalin was certainly guilty of multiple murders and other crimes in the 2008 – 2017 period. He was arrested on multiple occasions but the worst punishment he ever got during the reign of the Tsar was internal exile.
                Perhaps the then regime should not have been as generous to him.
                Have a look at what a bastard he was and wonder on the fact that they never executed him.
                It would certainly have got rid of a man who was probably the most evil person of the 20th century. He was, I would judge, even worse than his counterpart in Germany.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_Joseph_Stalin

                • In Vino

                  OK, I should have written,’ The great and successful Czars’ Those who ruled Russia successfully always did so with a rod of iron (Peter, Catherine, Ivan..) They were despotic whether you like it or not, and it has been well argued that Stalin followed in their tradition.

    • Drowsy M. Kram 3.2

      An example of the jerk God’s petulance/arrogance from this post – desperate Dave.

      Nah you’re actually an awful person and, other than pointing out as much, I would never engage with you.

      Seems “we’re dealing here with utter scum“… Anything else to debate?

    • Morrissey 3.3

      Correct, Pete. The sheep of Epsom will do as they’re told.

  4. patricia bremner 4

    For someone who dishes it out, he does not take it at all. Quite correct Mickey.

  5. It seems like he is losing it. He needs serious help is all I can say.

    • Tricledrown 5.1

      JLR could give him some support.

    • Gosman 5.2

      Why is he losing it? Refusing to engage in actual debate with a ideological opponent is not necessarily a reflection of someone losing it. In fact it might be entirely rational as he does not want to justify her position by giving it any credence or a large amount of airtime.

      • arkie 5.2.1

        In your opinion. He also needlessly called her ‘utter scum’. Refusing to debate but also insulting your ‘idealogical opponent’ is not what one would call rational debate. One could say it was out of line, that he is losing it. And if he wanted to avoid giving it airtime he failed didn’t he?

      • It was the insults and tone of the response. If your argument was valid he would have said nothing. By giving it no oxygen it would have died very quickly. As it is he’s made himself look like an arrogant jerk.

        • Gosman 5.2.2.1

          He dislikes Ms Khan and the ideology she represents. I am sure Mr Peters and Ms Davidson also feels the same about others and would treat them equally with disdain. If you think this reflects badly then don’t vote for them.

          • arkie 5.2.2.1.1

            You know how Mr Peters and Ms Davidson feel huh?

            There’s also no evidence of your claim, but there is however evidence of Seymour treating a member of the public badly, calling her ‘utter scum’ and an awful person.

            Your hypothetical is irrelevant to the topic.

          • Gabby 5.2.2.1.2

            He’s just lost the utter scum vote gozzer. Who’s left?

      • woodart 5.2.3

        is this why you refuse to answer perfectly reasonable questions gooseman. by ignoring the hard questions, you think you are not giving the questioner any credence?. is this your way of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting nonsense?

  6. Tiger Mountain 6

    Mr Seymour elevates his public self pleasuring to ever greater spectacle level

    “Trash talk” seems the way increasing numbers of reactionary MPs are heading these days, including Matt King, Nat Northland, and Mrs Bennett of course…

  7. Ross 7

    Haven’t dairy prices gone up significantly over the last 10 years? I’m not aware of a big increase in thefts of butter, milk and cheese. 🙂

    I also find it weird that the party of responsibility is mitigating the behaviour of criminals!

    • Gosman 7.1

      There is no evidence that prices for milk, butter, and cheese in Dairies have gone up more than the rate of inflation (very low) over the past 10 years.

      • Ross 7.1.1

        Gosman

        You didn’t even attempt to research the issue. Dairy prices have indeed outstripped inflation. 2008 is a good example.

        Why are consumers not robbing dairies and supermarkets?

        And can you explain why ACT is suddenly going soft on crime? I thought ACT believed in personal responsibility. But where’s there’s an oppprtunity to take a cheap shot at the Government, personal responsibility isn’t quite so important.

        http://archive.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/economic_indicators/prices_indexes/rising-cost-of-food-in-nz.aspx

        • Ross 7.1.1.1

          “The Food Price Index shows that milk, cheese and eggs rose by 23 percent overall during the year to May 2008. The cost of many dairy products in consumers’ shopping baskets have risen significantly in the past 12 months. For example, figure 2 shows that the price of standard fresh milk increased by 22 percent, cheddar cheese by 59 percent and butter by 80 percent.”

          • Gosman 7.1.1.1.1

            Oh, you mean the cost of items made with milk products not items sold in Dairies. Apologies for that. Dairy products don’t tend to be very easily stored as opposed to Cigareetes. A block of Cigarrettes can be well over 100 dollars. A hundred dollars wort of dairy products is incredibly bulky. that is what criminals don’t tend to steal dairy products.

  8. Gosman 8

    David Seymour is under NO obligation to engage in debate with Dianne Khan or anyone else if he chooses not to. Just as some people here think engaging with AGW deniers is not something you should entertain (which I have no problem with). Dianne Khan is a big person who can handle David Seymours actions.

    • arkie 8.1

      Dianne Khan is a big person who can handle David Seymours actions.

      The point is that David Seymour is evidently NOT a big person who can handle Dianne Khan’s actions.

      An elected representative shouldn’t be calling one of his bosses ‘scum’ but he felt that he must anyway.

      • Gosman 8.1.1

        In your opinion. Seymour does not seem to believe that he is responsible to Ms Khan just as I suspect Mr Peters or Ms Davidson would not be responsible to some ACT supporters. It may harm his re-election chances but this would be unlikely I would suggest.

        • McFlock 8.1.1.1

          And if a Green MP called someone who asked a simple question “utter scum” while refusing to provide an actual answer, you jerks would be outraged.

          It’s a simple question: if dairy robberies have been increasing alongside tobacco taxes, where’s the data? Was Seymour speaking from direct knowledge, or just spinning bullshit to try to seem relevant?

            • McFlock 8.1.1.1.1.1

              “Essentially”, meaning not calling people scum and actually addressing the points that had been raised.
              So, not at all similar, then.

              • Gosman

                She told people to delete themselves from Twitter (i.e. to remove themselves from the debate).

                • McFlock

                  What’s your point? It’s hardly equivalent do just calling someone “scum” in response to a simple question. You put more effort into answering that question than Seymour did. At least Davison clearly explained her position and why she held it.

                  • Gosman

                    She believed people should not be expressing their views on Twitter. Seymour obviously thinks Khan’s views are not worthy of responding to. In my mind that is a similar approach to take. You can obviously disagree with me and get upset with Seymour. What purpose this serves is unclear.

                    • McFlock

                      Ah. You do not compute the difference between calling someone scum and telling abuse enablers to shut up.

            • McFlock 8.1.1.1.2.1

              Neither demonstrate a relationship. What’s the situation regarding addictive illegal drugs like meth? Is it related to actual benefit payments and stand-downs? Is it relocation of the robbery problem from banks, which have largely eradicated robberies? Are service stations hit at the same rate, if not why not? There were some raw numbers in the news article – why can’t Seymour, as an MP, access more accurate data and give us some decent rates? He made the claim, he should have more than a google search of mediocre Stuff articles to back it up.

              • Gosman

                My point was there is actual data that suggests a relationship may exist. Seymour couldn’t be bothered to give this (or the more detailed evidence you requested) to Khan because he does not rate her and does not wish to engage. Again where is the issue here?

                • arkie

                  Uh… from https://www.parliament.nz/en/get-involved/features/what-does-an-mp-do/

                  MPs are in constant demand to give speeches, write articles for media, attend functions, and meet visitors. They are regularly lobbied by interest groups and individuals who want to promote ideas. They must respond to many letters and emails each year, with sense, sensitivity, and often with practical action.

                  An MPs work includes communicating with the media and the public about the issues they are involved in.

                • McFlock

                  May exist? If you’re going to demand a change in policy, you need more than “may”.

                  Seymour “may” have evidence – if he were going to plug his idea, the “should” have the evidence on hand, and it “might” have occurred to him that even though he didn’t like the commenter who asked a question that “could” be easily predicted, someone else on Twitter “might” be interested in the simple response he had already prepared.

                  OR

                  He has no real evidence and he’s just desperately flailing about in search of some shred of relevance.

                  • Meh. It’s a reasonable assumption from Seymour. Continually hiking the taxes on cigarettes will inevitable take their price into territory in which a black market becomes worthwhile. If a black market becomes worthwhile, people will steal to supply that black market.

                    Given the above, the facts that cigarettes are now ridiculously expensive and we’ve seen evidence of a black market developing means you could reasonably expect robberies of dairies to steal cigarettes to be on the increase.

                    And, funnily enough, it just so happens we’re seeing a lot of news stories about robberies of dairies to steal cigarettes.

                    So it’s certainly true that we haven’t seen proof that the correlation is causal (where are the nation’s social sciences academics when you actually need them for once?), but what we’re seeing is what we’d expect to see given the circumstances. As with climate change, we’re in a situation of “Given A and B, we’d expect to see C happening, and oh look we’ve got C happening.” At that point your best course of action is to assume causation unless evidence turns up to the contrary.

                    • McFlock

                      That’s why I’d be interested in service station robberies as well.

                      If they’re targeted at the same rate for hold ups, the tobacco theory holds more water. But service stations typically have much more open layouts than corner stores, obvious cameras, and you can see into them from the street – similar to the modern bank design that’s helped lower the number of bank robberies.

                      So if dairy robberies have gone up and service station robberies is constant or falling, then we’re looking at a crime displacement effect creating a new black market, rather than the black market creating the crime.

                      edit: and this is from someone who’s pissed off that the tobacco taxes finally stopped me smoking. I can only afford so many vices…

        • arkie 8.1.1.2

          In your opinion.

          I remember that within the last year a certain Ms Davidson attempted to reclaim the C word at a protest rally. Blue murder was cried.

          • Gosman 8.1.1.2.1

            Did I personally express any upset at her?

            • arkie 8.1.1.2.1.1

              That’s irrelevant to me, my point being that Ms Davidson wasn’t talking to a citizen specifically and many were outraged. Seymour called Ms Kahn and ‘awful person’ and ‘utter scum’ for daring to differ ideologically. Why defend someone so unequipped to have a discussion that they resort to ad hominem when even slightly questioned?

              • Gosman

                David Seymour is under no obligation to be nice to people of all ideological persuasions. If you don’t like his attitude don’t vote for him. Oh wait… you don’t anyway.

                • arkie

                  Uh… from https://www.parliament.nz/en/get-involved/features/what-does-an-mp-do/

                  MPs are in constant demand to give speeches, write articles for media, attend functions, and meet visitors. They are regularly lobbied by interest groups and individuals who want to promote ideas. They must respond to many letters and emails each year, with sense, sensitivity, and often with practical action.

                  An MPs work includes communicating with the media and the public about the issues they are involved in.

                  • Gosman

                    LOL!

                    Do you think you’ve discovered some sort of enforceable code of conduct that means MP’s have to respond to ALL requests via ALL sources for information?

                    That is hilarious, if true.

                    • arkie

                      I’m pointing out that David Seymour is unable to do the basic functions of his job with sense and sensibility.

                      If you employed someone who was equally unable to do their job would you be happy to continue paying them?

                    • Gosman

                      The comment you posted does not mean what you think it means. It is detailing what MP’s usually do not what they are OBLIGED to do.

                    • Gosman

                      Regardless if you don’t like David Seymour’s behaviour then don’t vote for him. Oh wait… you don’t already.

                    • mpledger

                      You seem to want to limit out behaviour. We can do more then not vote for him, we can show others his responses so that they can see he is ill-mannered and ill-educated.

      • Wensleydale 8.1.2

        On a positive note, at least now nobody’s under any illusions as to the sort of person David ‘Rimmer’ Seymour is. A petulant man-child who can’t abide someone refuting his rickety excuse for an argument. Epsom voters… are you really getting your money’s worth?

        • arkie 8.1.2.1

          This is very true!

        • Gosman 8.1.2.2

          Do you disagree with the statistics contained in this media report?

          • Robert Guyton 8.1.2.2.1

            Do you agree Gosman, that calling Dianne Khan “utter scum” is an inappropriate thing for Seymour to have done?

            • woodart 8.1.2.2.1.1

              you wont get a straight answer robert. gooseman cant answer the easy questions, let alone understand the hard ones. like most right wingers, he is easily confused by logic and has shifting ,and sellable principles. and,like seymour ,his dancing on a pinhead, shuffling around a subject, isnt worth the admission price. the best thing to do with irritants like him is either ignore them, or swat them …..

              • Robert Guyton

                Really? Well, that would be disappointing but I’ll still wait hopefully. Gosman’s been otherwise quite polite to me so far.

            • Gosman 8.1.2.2.1.2

              I wouldn’t have done what he did with Ms Khan as it seems a tad petulant but thst does not mean I would have engaged with her.

              • Robert Guyton

                Thanks, Gosman, for your answer. I’m like you and wouldn’t have said, written especially, “utter scum” of someone I disagreed with. I reckon your, “a tad petulant” is a pretty generous assessment but it’s an expression that looks good when written and reads aloud well, and you can change the emphasis when you do; “It’s a tad petulant” or “It’s a tad petulant . I’d have said it’s a disgraceful thing to say, but I’m not a supporter of his.

                • Gosman

                  I know David Seymour (not hugely well to be fair). He can get quite prickly at times. It isn’t his best personality trait to be sure but then lots of politicians have personality flaws. It certainly does not preclude him being an MP or leading a political party in my view.

                  • Robert Guyton

                    I agree. When we know politicians personally it’s natural, I reckon, to leap to their defence, even if they mis-step. I know I supported (and still support) Meteria when she was under attack, and I’m sure you allowed for that sort of response by pulling your punches a little, knowing that it hurts when it’s personal 🙂

  9. AB 9

    Whether it has led to an increase in robberies or not – financially punishing the addicted for their addiction is bad policy medically and socially.
    The tobacco companies should be paying for smoking cessation treatment and medical costs – rather than getting away with externalising the true costs of their product onto others.

    • Given that tobacco companies would build in any compulsory costs imposed by the government into their prices, it’s a lot cheaper and more efficient to just tax the product. That said, taxes generated from cigarettes are now generate way more income for the government than the health costs it incurs, so it is quite literally profiting from others’ misery the same as the tobacco companies do.

      • patricia bremner 9.1.1

        Are you able to prove the Government profits from the excise charged on smoking?

        After all, the money is used to fund hotlines replacement products and advertising about health risks and aid, and help with security measures for dairies as well.

        Hardly a lucrative income, as the health system is also still dealing with aging smokers with resulting conditions of emphysema asthma and cancers.

        These conditions are very expensive to treat. An exaggeration to say “profit”.

        Just as David Seymour is rude and ungracious to a voter, who has a different view and corrects him on his facts.

        • McFlock 9.1.1.1

          Are those conditions more expensive to treat than whatever else people die from? Non-smokers don’t just keel over one day any more than smokers do. Degenerative conditions are rife in the elderly – a condition that half of smokers barely get to see, so you have the unpaid pensions on top of any difference in treatment costs.

          How much does the government fund on hotlines etc? $20mill? $100mill?

        • Psycho Milt 9.1.1.2

          Smokers actually tend to cost the health system less overall than non-smokers, because they often die relatively young of things that kill you relatively quickly.

          The question of how much money the government makes from smokers is difficult to answer, because health officials tend to make “estimates” of the health cost that come to nearly the same as the government is receiving in tobacco tax revenue. For example, this Min of Health report in 2010:

          A 2007 estimate put the cost of smoking to the health system at $300 to $350 million per annum; however current work within the Ministry of Health suggests that figure may be as high as $1 to $1.6 billion per annum [2].

          Funnily enough, that “suggested” figure that’s so much higher than the Uni of Otago study is similar to the amount being taken in tax revenue at the time ($1.12 billion), and its upper limit is a little more than the additional tax rate being requested would take the amount to ($1.49 billion). Very convenient suggestion, especially when you take into account there was an actual study showing the actual cost to be a third of that.

          • mpledger 9.1.1.2.1

            I don’t know about that. Emphysema and bronchitis are long term conditions. And periphery artery disease is a long term condition.

            There is also the health cost that they impose on other through their smoking – children with second hand smoke conditions, newborns who have been effected by cigarette smoking – low birth weight.

      • AB 9.1.2

        You could price freeze them as well.
        And it doesn’t matter that the early deaths of smokers may actually cost the Crown less than the later deaths of non-smokers. The point of making tobacco companies pay for the true costs of their product is not to reduce overall Crown expenditure. It is to drive the tobacco companies into the ground, with luck take every cent they have as they go down and reduce the suffering they cause. And also send a big a big “eff off, we’re in charge” to corporate power.

    • Enough 9.2

      Despite his inept defence of Seymour, I decided not to engage with the awful Gosman. Utter scum though he is, I’m confident he’ll respect that decision.

      • Tamati Tautuhi 9.2.1

        U are not very nice calling Gosmam “utter scum”, Gosman always tries to be nice despite his RWNJ leanings.

        • Enough 9.2.1.1

          I was merely quoting Seymour, whose verbatim comment (top of page) Gosman has been attempting to justify.

    • mpledger 9.3

      Financially punishing the addicted is actually good policy – it’s one of the only levers that reduces smoking significantly. But it’s not the only thing in place, there are things like quitline and GP/Pharmacy services that help with people quitting and staying smoke free.

  10. ken 10

    Pure desperation.
    Any publicity is good publicity as far as Seymour goes.

  11. JustMe 11

    I don’t think any MP that is linked to the NZ National Party eg ACT; likes being told the truth or being critiicsed.

    They(National and co)don’t mind dishing out criticism but they just don’t like being on the receiving end.

    Perhaps their attitude is because deep down they know they are wrong but in their pure arrogance think they are right ALL the time.

    Where was David Seymour’s voice of concern when Bill English and John Key were criticising NZers eg Key’s nastiness towards NZers which protested against the TPPA and National?

    And so to the likes of Seymour and so many others like him in the NZ National Party if you don’t like being criticised then please refrain from criticising others. Criticism is a Two Way Street.

  12. Srylands 12

    David Seymour is a beacon in a desert of socialism. Just what I would expect from a Labour Party blog.

  13. mpledger 13

    If I were being cynical I’d say that ACT got some Indian money when National trashed them in favour of the Chinese. He has to defend his money stream to the hilt no matter what.

  14. Sacha 14

    No surprise to see Davey lash out at one of the main people who resisted his charter schools baby. How very dare she! The logic is inescapable (except to 99.5% of the population).

    Imagine him watching impotently as the Nats withdraw the Epsom lifeline because he can’t deliver any more than one vote for them and the unrewarded donors are deserting in droves. Lipstick won’t save that pig. Perhaps a fresher party altogether can perform better with that tame electorate as an anchor in 2020, the Nats realise ..

    Master Seymour was the epitome of a mid-life crisis today, alone and tightly blue-suited in a low-slung, tastelessly-bright yellow roofless Morgan convertible as the tepid rains began to lash Remuera Rd. Uncomfortable but a prisoner of choices made some time earlier. Running on empty.

    • shadrach 14.1

      Hi Sacha

      Rather than take your information from https://saveourschoolsnz.com/, you may want to look at http://www.saveourschools.nz/.

      Opposition to Partnership Schools is driven by fear of their success at a time when the public education system is failing so many students.

      Remember this – those who truly benefit from this model are the children who participate in it. Visit the website and hear THEIR stories.

      • Sacha 14.1.1

        Sideshow.

      • Pete 14.1.2

        Are partnership schools which take kids who are “being failed” by the public education system or are they just schools operating under some different strictures?

        • shadrach 14.1.2.1

          Partnership schools were indeed taking children who were being failed by the public system. Read some of the stories at http://www.saveourschools.nz/. There is a large number of students who have been failed by this government’s distaste for success outside of mainstream public education. What is particularly irksome is the hypocrisy of certain Maori Labour MP’s who supported these schools in words, but when the going got tough, they piked. Poor, poor form.

          • R.P Mcmurphy 14.1.2.1.1

            what is irksome is these poeple never provided any proof whatsoever that they could do a better job.

        • R.P Mcmurphy 14.1.2.2

          they are just money grubbers who think they know better than trained people. they want to get their hands on government funding and buy property and when the school tanks then they own it. neat trick eh?

          • shadrach 14.1.2.2.1

            Money grubbers? Seriously? Almost all Partnership Schools were ‘not for profit’. You didn’t know that, did you?

    • Robert Guyton 14.2

      charter school “baby” should read, “changeling”, Imo.
      Mewling and puking, like a baby, only…twisted somehow…

  15. shadrach 15

    “Where was this evidence that Dianne Khan has been so awful to David Seymour. ”

    Mickey, where is the evidence that David Seymour claimed Dianne Khan had been awful to him?

    Your own post includes Seymour’s quote “Nah you’re actually an awful person…”. So not awful to him, just awful.

  16. tc 16

    What a great post for the RWNJ to earn some extra brownie points defending the indefensible.

    Even some charter school spin thrown in….Nice work tr%$ls !

  17. Michelle 17

    thank you Epsom for this d..head

  18. Sue 18

    David Seymour’s personal attacks on Diane Khan as “an awful person” could be regarded as online bullying.

    If he’s so rude to the public, I would be surprised if other MPs find him easy to work with.

    National, please cut him loose at the next election! ACT doesn’t have a public mandate to be in Parliament.

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Minister of Defence departs for Middle East
    Minister of Defence Peeni Henare has today departed for the Middle East where he will visit New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel deployed within the region, including in Operation Gallant Phoenix in Jordan and the Multinational Force and Observers mission on the Sinai Peninsula, Egypt. The Minister will also undertake ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago
  • Government funds work to clean up six contaminated sites
    The Government has announced funding to clean up six contaminated sites to reduce the risk to public health and protect the environment.    “These six projects will help protect the public from health risks associated with hazardous materials, so New Zealanders can live in a cleaner, safer environment.” Environment Minister David Parker ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • Government partners with industry to reduce agricultural emissions
    New Zealand’s effort to reduce agricultural emissions has taken a step forward with the signing of a memorandum of understanding by Government with agribusiness leaders, in a joint venture as part of the new Centre for Climate Action on Agricultural Emissions, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced. The Ministry for Primary Industries signed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    24 hours ago
  • Vosa Vakaviti sustains generations of Fijians
    The enduring strength and sustainability of Vosa Vakaviti is being celebrated by the Fijian community in Aotearoa New Zealand during Macawa ni Vosa Vakaviti – Fijian Language Week, which gets underway today. “This year’s theme, ‘Me vakabulabulataki, vakamareqeti, ka vakaqaqacotaki na vosa Vakaviti’, which translates as ‘Nurture, Preserve and Sustain ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • New Zealand condemns Russia’s annexation attempts
    New Zealand condemns unequivocally Russia’s attempts to illegally annex Russia-occupied regions of Ukraine, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says. “We do not recognise these illegal attempts to change Ukraine’s borders or territorial sovereignty,” Jacinda Ardern said. “Russia’s sham referenda in Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia are illegitimate, and have no legal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Government provides confidence to those seeking an adventure
    With our borders opened and tourists returning, those seeking out adventurous activities can do so more safely due to the steps we’ve taken to improve the health and safety regulatory regime for adventure activities, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Michael Wood has announced.  “We are seeing international visitor numbers begin ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • More single-use plastics banned from tomorrow
    Single-use plastic cotton buds, drink stirrers and most plastic meat trays are among single use plastics banned from sale or manufacture from tomorrow. “This is the first group of the most problematic plastic products to be banned in a progressive phase out over the next three years,” Environment Minister David ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Speech to NZDF Command and Staff College
    It’s a pleasure to join you today – and I extend a particular welcome to Marty Donoghue (a member of the Public Advisory Committee on Disarmament and Arms Control) and Athena Li-Watts (interning with me this week) who are also joining me today. On the face of it, some ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Milestone of half a million mental health sessions delivered
    The Government’s flagship primary mental health and addiction programme Access and Choice has hit the milestone of delivering more than 500,000 sessions to New Zealanders needing mental health support. Health Minister Andrew Little made the announcement at ADL – Thrive Pae Ora in Cromwell which provides mental wellbeing support services ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government continues to future-proof arts, culture and heritage sector
    The Government has announced further support for the recovery and resilience of the arts, culture and heritage sector as part of its COVID Recovery Programme’s Innovation Fund. “We’re continuing to secure the recovery of our arts, culture and heritage in Aotearoa New Zealand by supporting transformational initiatives across the motu,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government steps up kauri protection
    The Government is delivering on an election commitment to protect kauri in our northern forests through the new National Pest Management Plan (NPMP) for the forest giant and the allocation of $32 million of funding to back the coordinated effort, Biosecurity Minister Damien O'Connor and Associate Environment Minister (Biodiversity) ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Russia’s Ukraine referenda a sham
    Aotearoa New Zealand does not recognise the results of the sham referenda in Russia-occupied regions of Ukraine, Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta says.  “These so-called referenda were not free or fair, and they very clearly were not held in accordance with democratic principles,” Nanaia Mahuta said. “Instead, they were hastily organised ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Govt invests in New Zealand’s wine future
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has officially opened New Zealand Wine Centre–Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa in Blenheim today, saying that investments like these give us cause for optimism for the future. Funding of $3.79 million for the Marlborough Research Centre to build a national wine centre was announced in 2020, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Appointment of Judges of the Court Martial Appeal Court
    Attorney-General David Parker today announced the appointment of Colonel Craig Ruane, Commander Robyn Loversidge, and James Wilding KC as Judges of the Court Martial Appeal Court. The Court Martial Appeal Court is a senior court of record established under the Court Martial Appeals Act 1953. It is summoned by the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government strengthens measures to combat migrant worker exploitation
    Offence and penalty regime significantly strengthened New infringement offences for non-compliance Public register of individuals and businesses that are found guilty of migrant exploitation New community-led pilot to educate migrants workers and employers of employment rights Implemented reporting tools successfully brings exploitation out of the shadows Take-up of protective visa ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Livestock exports by sea to cease
    The passing of a Bill today to end the export of livestock by sea will protect New Zealand’s reputation for world-leading animal welfare standards, Minister of Agriculture Damien O’Connor said. “The Animal Welfare Amendment Bill future-proofs our economic security amid increasing consumer scrutiny across the board on production practices," Damien ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Extra measures to increase census turnout in 2023
    3500 census workers on the ground, twice as many as last census More forms to be delivered – 44% compared to 3% in 2018 Prioritisation of Māori and other groups and regions with lower response rates in 2018 Major work to ensure the delivery of a successful census in 2023 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Shining the light on screen workers
    Improved working conditions for workers in the screen industry is now a reality with the Screen Industry Workers Bill passing its third reading today, announced Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Michael Wood. “It’s fantastic to see the Screen Industry Workers Bill progress through Parliament. The new Act will strengthen protections ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Mental health resources for young people and schools launched
    Associate Minister of Education (School Operations) Jan Tinetti and Associate Minister of Education (Māori Education) Kelvin Davis have today launched two new resources to support wellbeing, and the teaching and learning of mental health education in schools and kura. “Students who are happy and healthy learn better. These resources ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Progress continues on future-proofing Auckland’s transport infrastructure
    Transport Minister Michael Wood has welcomed the latest progress on Auckland’s two most transformational transport projects in a generation – Auckland Light Rail and the Additional Waitematā Harbour Connections. Auckland Light Rail and Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency have named preferred bidders to move each project to their next phase, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government supports local innovation in homelessness prevention
    Ten successful applicants in round two of the Local Innovation and Partnership Fund (LIPF) Close to $6 million allocated as part of the Homelessness Action Plan (HAP) Māori, Pasefika and rangatahi a strong focus Round three opening later this year with up to $6.8 million available. Government is stepping up ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • More medicines for New Zealanders, thanks to Govt’s Budget boost
    Health Minister Andrew Little is welcoming news that two more important medicines are set to be funded, thanks to the Government’s big boost to the country’s medicines budget. “Since coming into Government in 2017, the Labour Government has increased Pharmac’s funding by 43 per cent, including a $71 million boost ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government delivers ACC change to support 28,000 parents
    The Maternal Birth Injury and Other Matters Bill passes Third Reading – the first amendment to ACC legislation of its kind From 1 October 2022, new ACC cover to benefit approximately 28,000 birthing parents Additional maternal birth injuries added alongside new review provision to ensure cover remains comprehensive Greater clarity ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Further cuts for East Coast tarakihi limits to rebuild numbers faster
    Commercial catch limits for East Coast tarakihi will be reduced further to help the stock rebuild faster. “Tarakihi is a popular fish, and this has led to declining levels over time. Many adjustments have been made and the stock is recovering. I have decided on further commercial catch reductions of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New Ambassador to Colombia announced
    Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta today announced the appointment of diplomat Nicci Stilwell as the next Ambassador to Colombia. “Aotearoa New Zealand’s relationship with Colombia is fast growing with strong links across education, climate change and indigenous co-operation,” Nanaia Mahuta said.  “Trade is a key part of our relationship with Colombia, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • 3000 more RSE workers to ease workforce pressures
    The Government continues to respond to global workforce shortages by announcing the largest increase in over a decade to the Recognised Seasonal Employer Scheme (RSE), providing 3000 additional places, Immigration Minister Michael Wood and Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor have announced. The new RSE cap will allow access to 19,000 workers ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Sanctions on more of the Russian political elite
    Further sanctions are being imposed on members of President Putin’s inner circle and other representatives of the Russian political elite, as part of the Governments ongoing response to the war in Ukraine, says Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta. “Ukraine has been clear that the most important action we can take to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New Principal Youth Court Judge appointed
    Judge Ida Malosi, District Court Judge of Wellington, has been appointed as the new Principal Youth Court Judge, Attorney-General David Parker announced today. Born and raised in Southland, Judge Malosi graduated from Victoria University of Wellington and spent her legal career in South Auckland.  She was a founding partner of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Visitor arrivals highest since pandemic began
    Overseas visitor arrivals exceeded 100,000 in July, for the first time since the borders closed in March 2020 Strong ski season lifts arrivals to Queenstown to at least 90% of the same period in 2019 Australia holiday recovery has continued to trend upwards New Zealand’s tourism recovery is on its ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Language provides hope for Tuvalu
    Climate change continues to present a major risk for the island nation of Tuvalu, which means sustaining te gana Tuvalu, both on home soil and in New Zealand Aotearoa, has never been more important, Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio said. The Tuvalu Auckland Community Trust and wider Tuvalu ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Minister Sio to attend Asian Development Bank meeting in Manila
    Associate Foreign Affairs Minister Aupito William Sio travels to the Philippines this weekend to represent Aotearoa New Zealand at the 55th Annual Meeting of the Asian Development Bank (ADB) Board of Governors in Manila. “The ADB Annual Meeting provides an opportunity to engage with other ADB member countries, including those ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • United Nations General Assembly National Statement
    E ngā Mana, e ngā Reo, Rau Rangatira mā kua huihui mai nei i tēnei Whare Nui o te Ao Ngā mihi maioha ki a koutou katoa, mai i tōku Whenua o Aotearoa Tuia ki runga, Tuia ki raro, ka Rongo to pō ka rongo te ao Nō reira, tēnā ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New strategy unifies all-of-Government approach to help Pacific languages thrive
    A united approach across all-of-Government underpins the new Pacific Language Strategy, announced by the Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio at Parliament today. “The cornerstone of our Pacific cultures, identities and place in Aotearoa, New Zealand are our Pacific languages. They are at the heart of our wellbeing,” Aupito ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Upgrades for sporting facilities ahead of FIFA Women’s World Cup
    Communities across the country will benefit from newly upgraded sporting facilities as a result of New Zealand co-hosting the FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023. The Government is investing around $19 million to support upgrades at 30 of the 32 potential sporting facilities earmarked for the tournament, including pitch, lighting and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Partnership supports climate action in Latin America and Caribbean
    Aotearoa New Zealand is extending the reach of its support for climate action to a new agriculture initiative with partners in Latin America and the Caribbean. Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced a NZ$10 million contribution to build resilience, enhance food security and address the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Landmark agreement for Māori fisheries celebrates 30th year
    The 30th anniversary of the Fisheries Deed of Settlement is a time to celebrate a truly historic partnership that has helped transform communities, says Parliamentary Under-Secretary to the Minister for Oceans and Fisheries Rino Tirikatene. “The agreement between the Crown and Māori righted past wrongs, delivered on the Crown’s treaty ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government backs initiatives to cut environmental impact of plastic waste
    The Government has today announced funding for projects that will cut plastic waste and reduce its impact on the environment. “Today I am announcing the first four investments to be made from the $50 million Plastics Innovation Fund, which was set last year and implemented a 2020 election promise,” Environment ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Call for expressions of interest in appointment to the High Court Bench
    Attorney-General David Parker today called for nominations and expressions of interest in appointment to the High Court Bench.  This is a process conducted at least every three years and ensures the Attorney-General has up to date information from which to make High Court appointments.  “It is important that when appointments ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Depositor compensation scheme protects Kiwis’ money
    New Zealanders will have up to $100,000 of their deposits in any eligible institution guaranteed in the event that institution fails, under legislation introduced in Parliament today. The Deposit Takers Bill is the third piece of legislation in a comprehensive review of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand Act and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New fund to help more Pacific aiga into their own homes
    The Government has launched a new housing fund that will help more Pacific aiga achieve the dream of home ownership. “The Pacific Building Affordable Homes Fund will help organisations, private developers, Māori/iwi, and NGOs build affordable housing for Pacific families and establish better pathways to home ownership within Pacific communities. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago