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Early heavy voting in Northland

Written By: - Date published: 12:53 pm, March 13th, 2015 - 38 comments
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Karen in comments states

Advance voting only opened on Wednesday in Northland and already double that of the general election. Unusual in a by election for there to be a big turnout, so we will see if it continue.

She is certainly right. It will be worth watching this page as the by-election proceeds.


38 comments on “Early heavy voting in Northland ”

  1. te aro pundit 1

    The Nats herding their supporters to the polling booths early?

    • McFlock 1.1

      that’s my suspicion.
      The can’t change their vote if they find out something that pisses them off.

      • Skinny 1.1.1

        Hope its not Willow Jeans loyalists, Peters needs every vote to knock Key over.

      • weka 1.1.2

        “The can’t change their vote if they find out something that pisses them off.”

        When’s the name suppression decision date?

      • North 1.1.3

        The observations of Te Aro Pundit and McFlock reflect exactly what I thought reading the post before I got to the comments. Must say I like this blackmail thing. That’s gonna mightily piss off alot of people ! Really crystallises the moral (at least) corruption of ThePonceKey Party.

    • Leftie 1.2

      Just like they did for the September election.

    • mary_a 1.3

      @ te aro pundit #1

      Natsies “escorting” (read dragging) voters personally to the polling booths do you think?

  2. swordfish 2

    I have a vague memory that Advance Voting at the 2010 Mana By-Election was well up on the 2008 General Election, against all expectations.

  3. Colonial Viper 3

    National Party supporters.

  4. One Anonymous Bloke 4

    Do people usually turn out en masse to vote for the status quo?

    • Colonial Rawshark 4.1

      They did in September 2014 with record heavy early voting. Mind you NZF did get a good bump from that…

  5. fisiani 5

    The National Party membership in Northland is the biggest in New Zealand and the best organised. On ipredict you can buy a stock in Nat win Northland for just 62c. ie a clear favourite and turn it into $1 on 28th. Alternatively all you wishful thinkers can short the stock and invest 38c which will make you a $1 in 15 days. Go on put your money where your laptop big mouths are. Invest $38 and make $100. easy money if you are confident that National will lose. Or are you too scared to part with real money and prefer to pontificate. Words are cheap.

    • McFlock 5.1

      Your words are cheaper than most.

      • fisiani 5.1.1

        Your cheaps are wordier than most.

        • McFlock

          Being nonsensical further devalues your contributions.

          But then you are the sort of credulous idiot who believes everything key says, except the explicit bribes and blackmail threats.

    • North 5.2

      Fizzy Anus still fizzing, malodourously.

    • Rawsharkosaurus 5.3

      Thank you for spamming your favourite Internet gambling site in this comment thread.

      • fisiani 5.3.1

        It’s not gambling ya numpty. It’s a predictions market. Insider knowledge is allowed and the smart money is on Osbourne to win. If you think the smart people are wrong then put your money on your PREDICTION. It’s not a gamble.

    • Rodel 5.4

      What an odious, repugnant perspective on the democratic process.
      So telling.

      • fisiani 5.4.1

        So please tell what is odious and repugnant about having an opinion and backing it. It does not influence the result or voting patterns. Do you understand what odious and repugnant means? Think Electoral Finance Act, that was odious and repugnant.

        • KJT

          You mean the Act that was going to prevent people like KDC buying elections. I thought you would be all for that?

          Of course it prevents Nationals funders buying elections also. Fizzers objection to it.

        • Draco T Bastard

          Opinions are only worth anything if they’re backed by fact. No amount of money can change that and that really pisses off the RWNJs.

          • McFlock

            fizzy can find a dozen lawyers who will disagree with you, if they’re paid enough money.

    • Saarbo 5.5

      Fisiani sounds like Hooten’s twin?

  6. Red Blooded 6

    I went to the “meet the candidates” at Kaitaia this afternoon. Disappointed that Mark Osbourne didn’t turn up as he had other commitments and apparently Winston Peters was told the meeting had been cancelled so also wasn’t there. A shame as I am so very torn on voting strategically and really wanted to get the feel of both those men before I decide to vote for Willow Jean or Winston. As one of the other candidates had heard the “cancelled meeting rumour” as well it was suggested Dirty Politics is still alive and well. Winston’s bus did come to Ahipara so good on him for covering the whole of Northland, not just the Keri Keri elite like Key.

    • North 6.1

      Gentle and respectful enquiry Red Blooded……why would you need to check out TheHoss if you’re contemplating a choice between WJ and WP ? After all Hoss is nothing more than a thick ole white boy of the putative upper crust of Northland.

      The sort who mocks and pokes shit at Maori but only in the privacy of their boring school nights “come round for dinner” numbers. Where everyone’s tucked up in bed by 9.30. Save me ! Stopped going in the end. Not invited anymore so no issue.

      Maybe you’re just getting into the gladiatorial swing of things ?

      God how I miss the full on election meetings in the local memorial hall in the 60s and 70s. When for a week thereafter the local Tories’d give you looks to kill but everyone got over it.

      Guess it was ‘cos we had a more humanly decent society then than the one ThePonceKey and before him his treasonous older brothers Douglas, Prebble, Moore, Bassett et al have swindled on us.

      • Red Blooded 6.1.1

        Fair question North, My wanting to see Osbourne turn up wasn’t to make up my mind which of the others to vote for, but I would have liked to have told him, to his face, that I wouldn’t be voting for him. I would absolutely love WJP to be in a position to take the seat but if there is a chance WP can wrestle it from the NATS surely I have to contemplate that in my decision. Spoke to a few people yesterday who voted blue last time but excited to be voting WP this time.

  7. Rodel 7

    So well expreseed- ” treasonous older brothers Douglas, Prebble, Moore, Bassett et al have swindled on us….”
    Well said and so true.

  8. Irascible 8

    The more votes for Willow Jean Prime the more votes for a principled candidate with serious and considered policies.
    Winston will attract the discontented National Party voters who see NZF as their second alternative political home.

    • Murray Rawshark 8.1

      Nope. Votes for Prime at this stage are votes for a continuation of NAct policies. As for the early voting, we won’t know until they’re counted. There is a very good reason why NAct will be doing their utmost to get their voters out early, but once suppression is lifted, it could cost them the seat for 2017. I hope they lose it sooner.

      • DoublePlusGood 8.1.1

        This by-election is a perfect example of why we should have preferential voting in electorates. Prime is the best candidate, but no-one should logically vote for her. With PV, people could safely vote Prime and have Winston as their second preference.

        • Murray Rawshark

          I agree. I was thinking about that the other day.

        • Phil

          PV wouldn’t actually make a lot of difference, other than to make it easier for the less clever of left wing voters to not vote for, effectively, a National candidate by mistake? Is that your motivation?

          Take the Australian example – they have PV elections, but still end up with a two-party house of representatives like we had with FPP (mostly red/blue with a small minority of other).

          There are a lot of reasons to like PV, but lets not delude ourselves into thinking that getting your second-best or third-best preference in parliament is ‘representation’.

          • DoublePlusGood

            I’m talking PV in electorates only. Australia’s house doesn’t use MMP, which is why it is stuck in a red v blue rut.
            And yes, getting your second- or third-best into parliament, ahead of someone who has policies that will hurt you *is* representation. It allows people to vote for minor party candidates without feeling that they are risking wasting their vote. And it gives a more accurate representation of voter intention in an area than the simple plurality election we have currently. Take Napier at the general election – Nash only won because 7000 National supporters went for Garth McVicar. A preferential voting election would have delivered the National party candidate into parliament, which would be a more accurate representation of the voter’s politics than Nash winning.
            It also stops awkwardness like candidates trying desperately to campaign for another candidate without openly doing so. Well, except in Epsom, where it’s a fight between a right wing candidate and a right wing candidate desperately trying to get the other right wing candidate to win. At least in that election the labour and green voters could vote for their candidate at present and then as a lower preference pick National over Act

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