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Easy come, easy go

Written By: - Date published: 6:51 am, December 17th, 2011 - 143 comments
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The judicial recount has given Waitakere back to Bennett. By 9 votes. Could swing back on a high court petition. Who knows who really has more support out west. Sepuloni and Bennett are essentially as popular as each other. Just shows the stupidity of winner take all electoral systems.

But Sepuloni would have been smarter to be more gracious after the specials came in. Don’t add fodder for the Right’s ‘nasty party’ meme. We all know they’re the nasty buggers in truth. But they’re really good at it. So good they don’t get pulled up.

143 comments on “Easy come, easy go”

  1. Zetetic, maybe you would have been smarter to have avoided the nastiness meme. Labelling a whole political grouping or party as ‘nasty’ sounds, well, a bit nasty. You could have used your own advice to Sepuloni, but I guess it depends on how you want to represent what you support.

    The bitterness of defeat will subside. I hope this political nastiness will subside too, it’s a sad waste of emotion.

  2. tsmithfield 2

    Zet, I know the left is a little lacking in fond feelings towards Bennett. But at least she knows how to win graciously.

    From the article, Bennett said:

    “Actually I know what a loss feels like because that’s what I felt last Saturday so I actually feel some sympathy for her because it hurts.”

    If someone can’t be gracious even when they win, then it surely has to be their true colours on display. So, I think National has actually done Labour a big favour with this result, by keeping someone out of parliament who seems likely to reinforce the “nasty” image that is being painted of the Labour party..

    I know there is the tantalising possibility of an electoral position with the possibility of unseating Bennett from parliament from what appears to be the case under electoral law. But I seriously doubt that Labour will bother, although nothing would surprise me.

    Firstly, Sepuloni herself has said this is highly unlikely.

    Secondly, it is an expensive course of action with the balance of probability against success.

    Thirdly, even if they do succeed, National will still have a majority and will be able to govern.

    Fourthly, this action would be highly unsettling and unfair on Huo, who has already been through his share of ups and downs with this election.

    Finally, Labour might well consider they will be better served by having Huo on the team anyway.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 2.1

      National has a majority ????

      They have 59 seats, a majority is 61.

      If the court decides in favour of Sepuloni, Bennett is out of parliament AND nationals seat tally falls to 58.

      Thats right the rest of the MPs are ‘in’ and Bennett doesnt come back on the list ( and push the tailender off)

      This means to pass any legislation National needs Banks AND Dunne AND the Maori Party. Good luck with that for 3 years.

      • tsmithfield 2.1.1

        Thanks for picking me up on my error. I should have said the National coalition still has a majority.

        • Jim Nald 2.1.1.1

          A colleague who is a staunch Nat voter said she is a bit concerned with a couple of National MPs who could turn out to be Richard Worths and Pansy Wongs.

      • Colonial Viper 2.1.2

        If this actually happens it’ll underline the fact that Phil Goff left the leaders position far too early.

      • The Voice of Reason 2.1.3

        Ghost, the seat tally for National does not change. It’s based on the party vote, so if they win Waitakere, a list member drops off. The same for Labour. Bennett is an MP, win or lose. She was a list MP for the last few days, now she’s an electorate MP.
         
        Labour probably won’t challenge the result, as this count was meticulously done and scrutinised by both parties. It’s not going to change now.

        • Lanthanide 2.1.3.1

          Yes, this is my take on it too VoR.

          After the election is all finalised, then the party vote ceases to matter, eg, if they lose a by-election the new winner takes that seat in parliament.

          But this Waitakere seat is part of the general election process, so ultimately if Sepuloni won on a court challenge Bennett would still be there.

        • ghostwhowalksnz 2.1.3.2

          No. That is not correct. Once the writs in are thats it for the party talleys for proportionality

          As this is an electorate seat, if Bennett is unseated than she is gone from parliament till next election.

          No backdoor through the list as she was an electorate MP when the the writs were returned and doesnt qualify for the list in the life of this parliament

      • sthnjeff 2.1.4

        Deluded with no idea how MMP works. Ghost

        Bennett would have returned as a list MP anyway and the number of MPS would be unaffected as this is an electoral vote only.

    • seeker 2.2

      tsmithfield

      “at least she knows how to win graciously”

      Oh pleeeeeease……….. remember this:-
      Feeling aggrieved at criticism from Labour over cancelling the TIA, Bennett outs private information about the mothers who dared to query the cancellation in the first place, as some form of retaliation or ‘punishment’ for upsetting her. Paula Bennett said that she just wanted the criticism to stop. Oh well that’s OK then.

      Paula Bennett gracious ts? I don’t think so.
      Do anything, like abuse her position as a minister of the crown, IMO, and potentially break the law to get her own back or punish, is more ‘dangerous bully’ or ‘spoilt brat’ than ‘gracious’.

      And what’s more this horrible happening is still not resolved, thanks to a long,long process of justice.

  3. *_* 3

    At least Huo is not given to toxic bitter outbursts and despite his lack of achievements is clearly a better choice and a valuable link to the ethnic chinese community despite Labour love affair with racist xenophobes.

    To the dole queue with Carmel then or maybe even a real job (if she’s even capable of that)

  4. Tiger Mountain 4

    There are “togs, undies” lines all over Waitakere that reveal the socio economic shifts as clearly as the St Heliers/Glenn Innes boundary. The best solution would be a higher voter turnout, but that chance is long gone for 2011. So the courts are the remaining battle field.

    There seems something suspicious here, redolent of Hunua all those years ago that is worthy of investigation. Bennett plays dirty (beneficiary breach of privacy case, residents leant on by Nat team to remove Labour hoardings) and should be put to the highest legal test.

    Electorates such as Christchurch central, let the result now stand, some voters just moved away. Ditto Auckland central. But this one, given that a number of local people are subject to the tender mercies of Bennett’s punative WINZ due to her tory governments under performance is of significance.

  5. weka 5

    BENNETT, Paula NAT 13,457

    BRADFORD, Sue MANA 320

    LYE, Jeff ALCP 330

    MOUNTAIN, Danny CNSP 609

    OSBORNE, Peter LIB 55

    SEPULONI, Carmel LAB 13,468

    TOLLESTRUP, Steve GP 1,846

    http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2011/electorate-57.html

    (they obviously haven’t updated their website yet).

    What I want to know is why so many Green Party voters wanted Bennett rather than Sepuloni as their electorate MP. Ditto the small number of Mana party voters.

    • Tigger 5.1

      I want to slap left voters who weren’t as savvy as the right voters – imagine Key’s problem if Epsom and Ohariu delivered a different result. 

    • The Voice of Reason 5.2

      It’s even worse in AK Central, weka. The Greens there have overwhelmingly supported Nikki Kaye to be their MP, by idiotically wasting their electorate vote on Denise Roche.

      • Colonial Viper 5.2.1

        Facepalms all round Auckland, so-called lefties. Co-ordinate and talk in 2014 ***please***.

        • Jackal 5.2.1.1

          There’s been a bit of discussion on frogblog about this. Personally I think the fact that there are so many left parties while really only one on the right is again going to be a huge problem in 2014.

          Some decisive action needs to be undertaken by left party leaders to firstly educate people about VOTING STRATEGICALLY and secondly ONLY CAMPAIGNING FOR THE PARTY VOTE. This should even go so far as to NOT STAND IN CERTAIN ELECTORATES.

          Unless the left can put their egos aside and find common ground, the divided we fall dynamic will continue to be problematic.

          • Tangled up in blue 5.2.1.1.1

            This should even go so far as to NOT STAND IN CERTAIN ELECTORATES.

            Yes

          • Ari 5.2.1.1.2

            Standing electorate candidates influences the party vote. I’d rather the Greens inadvertently convinced people to vote for their electorate candidates than that they lost party votes. The Greens told people this election quite explicitly that they don’t want their electorate votes, so any votes they do get are already from people who either:
            1) Wouldn’t be easy to reach with any appeal not to “spoil” their electorate vote,
            2) Don’t care about the Labour candidate winning and would never vote for them even if there wasn’t a Green candidate.

            Now, if Labour genuinely wants to do team campaigning, I think not standing candidates in certain electorates and instead giving a “We want you to party vote for us, and electorate vote for her!” message together with the Greens, I think that’s great. But that doesn’t happen unless there’s support and team work from both sides.

            • felix 5.2.1.1.2.1

              Yep Labour need to come to the party (sorry 😉 ) here and make it worthwhile for the Greens.

              Also, to your 1) and 2) I’d add 3) Don’t understand mmp at all. I meet Green voters at every election who genuinely think that voting for the candidate is helping the Greens win seats.

              Does my tiny little head in I tells ya.

            • Vicky32 5.2.1.1.2.2

              Don’t care about the Labour candidate winning and would never vote for them even if there wasn’t a Green candidate.

              Are these the Blue-Greens, then? They’re a worry.

    • Bill 5.3

      Don’t know if I’m correct in saying this. My understanding is that it costs money to stand an electoral candidate. But if a certain %age of the electoral vote is gained, then deposits are returned. Therefore, it can make sense to vote for a ‘no chance’ candidate.

      That said, it’s bloody stupid to cast a vote on that basis (assuming it’s a correct understanding of how shit works) in a close run electorate.

      Why not have candidates publicly announce their preferred alternative representative in the case where they themselves are unsuccessful and have their vote tally assigned accordingly?

      Bearing in mind that, if (stupidly) Bradford had announced the Greens candidate as a preference and Tollestup had announced Bradford as a preference, then the same result would eventuate.

      • weka 5.3.1

        Well without having to change the electoral system, here’s what could happen.

        The left could embrace and support tactical voting. This would mean the parties on the left talking to each other and negotiating concessions. Someone commented elsewhere that the GP couldn’t afford to not stand in the electorates as they needed all the publicity they could get. The GP was going after both votes. I think that needs to change in the next three years but the GP is only going to do that if there is some degree of collaboration on the left between the other parties. I still don’t understand why the left is so agin this idea.

        The left could educate voters on tactical voting. In this election there were two issues – the electoral vote (examples above) and the party vote for Mana (I know people who wanted to vote Mana but didn’t seem to understand that if Mana got enough electoral seats their party vote was wasted). There are still too many voters who don’t understand how the voting system works and how it plays out the day after the election.

        • Bill 5.3.1.1

          Well, when you’ve got (finally did) Ph Goff, announcing on TV that people in Epsom should vote for who they consider to be the best candidate…

          Yup. Beyond me.

          Maybe there are too many people of the left whose feelings of smugness and superiority at being ‘morally correct’ in voting ‘honestly’ blind them to the stupidity of their actions?

          • newsense 5.3.1.1.1

            Cos Sue has delivered in parliament? And not everyone likes Labour or could bring themselves to vote for their candidate?

          • Ari 5.3.1.1.2

            Expressive voting where voting honestly tends to be the best long-term strategy has long been a goal of the left. I don’t think we should see it as a weakness so much as an aspiration for a system where you can’t “waste” any part of your vote.

        • Colonial Viper 5.3.1.2

          +1

          The left have to get over themselves and start playing the rules of the game smarter. If we don’t, we are more likely to end up with Tory governments who fuck our futures up.

          • Ant 5.3.1.2.1

            Just need STV/MMP hybrid, but until that happens the left need to communicate and organize.

            • AndrewK 5.3.1.2.1.1

              When I look at the results in a large number of electorates I am left wondering why the Labour Party isn’t pushing hard for introducing STV into the electorate vote. Paula Bennett is a long way from a majority if the Green votes alone are added to the Labour votes (even with the Conservative and Libertarianz votes added to the National Party tally [interestingly, it does not appear ACT ran a candidate in Waitakere].)

    • Blue 5.4

      They have updated them now.

      Interesting to see that the other candidates have also had their votes recounted and their totals have changed too.

      Sue Bradford gains 2, the ACLP candidate up one, Conservative candidate up 2, and the Green candidate gains 9.

      Just how much inaccuracy is there with counting votes? It seems horribly unreliable.

      Are these spoiled ballots or is it just that the people counting the votes on election night are terrible at arithmetic?

    • Sam 5.5

      A lot of people who voted Green are disgruntled labourites.
      It is thus not not in the Green Party’s interest to be nice to Labour, that won’t gain them anything.
      The Greens don’t need labour, it is now the other way round, Labour needs th eGreens.
      That is why Shearer has already sucked up to the Greens with his “Clean, Green and Clever” slogan.
      He knows he needs to become a Green-lite party to ensure Labour’s survival in the short term.
      Labour used to be the party of the working man not any more, it is now the party of 3rd rate lawyers, failed teachers/university lecturers and beneficiaries. With Damian O’Connor’s “gaggle of gays” thrown in for good measure.
      So the long term goal for Shearer needs to be to re-connect with the working population, who they have lost to NZFirst and the Greens at this elelction.

      • Ari 5.5.1

        I don’t like the labour party, but it has some very positive constituents, including more centrist or right-wing queers, public servants, educators of all sorts, progressive economists, (yes, they exist…) internationalists, and so on. It simply needs to broaden its coalition with a group more defined than “middle new zealand”, which is a code word for undecided centrists without any bloody principles at all.

  6. bob 6

    Sorry to disappoint but if Paula lost the seat on a judicial petition national would still have 59 seats. Paula would simply become a list mp. This is how mmp works.

    • There seems to be uncertainty over this.

      Electoral law specialist Graeme Edgeler believes that is the only way to interpret the Electoral Act which says a seat shall become vacant if on an electoral petition the High Court or Court of Appeal declares his or her election void.

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10773715

      But if as VoR suggests this count was done meticulously and thoroughly scrutinised taking this to a petition may moot and could be an expensive distraction – and probably futile.

      More on it from Graeme:

      Why is this? Well, a policy decision was taken that finality was more important than proportionality, and the possibility that an election petition (or by-election) could change multiple seats (e.g. by removing a party from Parliament because it no longer passed the one seat threshold) months after an election was thought to be the greater evil

      http://publicaddress.net/legalbeagle/paulas-peril-or-the-uncertain-scenario/

      • mickysavage 6.1.1

        Um no, a Judicial Recount is exactly that.  An electoral petition gives the court considerable powers to investigate all sorts of things, such as whether voters were actually qualified and how much the candidate spent on the campaign.

        The recount is precisely that, a recount, although the Judge has the powers to review decisions to disallow votes.

  7. Olwyn 7

    The right’s “nasty party meme” follows the form of the interaction between the bully and the bullied, at a school yard level. A group of teenage girls goad another girl; “How come you’re so fat?” “Is that your mother’s dress you’re wearing?” or similar, until she lashes out and cries “Just F off!” to which they say, “See, now she’s being nasty.”

    At least some of the people who support Carmel Sepuloni have had their insecurity compounded under Bennett’s rule, and a bit of straight talking when the hope of seeing the back of her comes up ought to be expected.

    Note that the right wingers who employ that meme do not count it as nastiness when the blowtorch is turned on the poor and dispossessed: then it is not nasty, it is just stating the obvious.

    “Not nasty, angry!” should be the reply, not “Well I’ll try to be nice then.”

    • millsy 7.1

      Exactly. The right have dished it out in spade for years, and then when they get a reaction its all high and mighty. Somehow the left is expected to be all nice and respectful.

      • Colonial Viper 7.1.1

        Open mike 14/12/2011

        Riots during the Great Depression. This is the ‘nastiness’ which has been coming to town all across Europe.

        And Time Magazine’s just announced person of the year? The Protestor.

        • Treetop 7.1.1.1

          Off the thread topic a bit, but yesterday on TV 3 midday news, foreclosure on 4 million homes in the US, (not sure of the time period for this). People cannot afford to even live in caravan parks so they are now living in tents on the desert fringe.

          On Stuff.co.nz today more on housing unaffordability in NZ.

          The protestor is the voice for many against capitalistic greed.

      • chris73 7.1.2

        Not quite but just to clarfy for the lefties, its not that the right don’t like it when its dished out its that we (and middle NZ) don’t like it when the left try to position themselves as being “nice” when in fact they’re quite nasty (as nasty as the right in fact)

        Just stop trying to portray yourself as being “nice” and no one will have any problems with the left doing what the left does so well ie being sneaky, snarky and underhand (which is all good in politics)

  8. nadis 8

    Just shows the stupidity of winner take all electoral systems.

    Don’t you mean “Just shows the stupidity of the Labour Party list rankings.”

  9. james 111 9

    Yes agree with your comments about Sepuloni hardly statesman like, maybe better out of Parliament until she develops some social skills. I dont believe Labour wants another Clare Curran in the team. What is interesting is all the disallowed votes for the Left our West was there a bit of vote rigging going on?

  10. gingercrush 10

    A lot of Green voters clearly did vote Ardern and in Waitakere a number of green voters voted Sepuloni. And if you actually look at Epsom and Ohariu you’ll actually see that a lot of right-wing voters aren’t that savvy as Goldsmith and Shanks still received a substantial amount of electorate votes from National voters.

    The problem with electorates is basically the contest is set up where it actually is a disincentive to stand a candidate (for it risks you getting votes in a contest you essentially can’t win) But if you don’t stand a candidate there is a huge risk that you won’t get as many party votes as you could get. Hence, why an additional vote (simply because its more simplistic than either PV or STV and would be more immune to invalid voting) scenario would be helpful. As if you were given two votes in electorates. One vote for your preferred and another for the alternative. I can imagine the vast number of Green voters would have ticked the Labour candidate and in Ohariu and Epsom at least, John Banks and Peter Dunne would have received most of the alternative vote.

    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      Don’t mistake National supporters voting for Goldsmith as a ‘lack of savvy’. Many of them voted that way because John Banks makes them ill.

    • weka 10.2

      “But if you don’t stand a candidate there is a huge risk that you won’t get as many party votes as you could get.”

      Can you please explain that, ginger?

      But even if the GP needed to stand someone in Waitakere to increase their party vote there, that doesn’t explain why the people who voted GP for the electorate vote did so. Did they not care who their electorate MP would be, or did they not realise the implications of their vote?

      • alwyn 10.2.1

        Most of the campaigning done by everyone, except the Party leader, is either at meetings of the candidates, letters into letter boxes or by hoardings at the roadside. I live in Wellington Central and we did not get a single visit from a candidate or party rep from any of the parties.
        If a party doesn’t have a candidate standing in the electorate there will be no-one at candidates meetings to present the party case. Out of sight, out of mind really does apply so your party vote tends to fall.
        A candidate is also allowed to spend (I think it is) $20,000 dollars on their electorate campaign. This is over and above the amount a party is allowed to spend nationally. If you don’t have a candidate you don’t get to put up the hoardings or send out any pamphlets, so again you don’t get the chance to put your case.
        If you want to take part, therefore, in most campaign activities you have to run electorate candidates.

  11. Treetop 11

    The election may have been won by the right but the left are going to fight with all their might to try and stop energy asset sales. I am somewhat confused about, how those on the right, who are against asset sales, voted for asset sales.

    Bennett can have her seat (which is controversial) if National STOP asset sales.

  12. Fotran 12

    Labour do not have $100,000 – $200,000 to have an Election Petition. Should Sepuloni lose, which is equally possible, what a waste of money. Huo is a Labour money getter, so he is probably a better substitute. There is no change to the number of MPs.
    Electoral Petitions open up a multitude of possibilities, which are carefully reviewed, starting at voting eligibility, and this alone can bring up serious anomolies.
    Better left alone.

    • Colonial Viper 12.1

      More advice from the right wing for Labour. Scared of losing a majority in the House mate?

    • Lanthanide 12.2

      $100-200k seems like a small price to pay to protect our assets.

      • *_* 12.2.1

        Ante up then from your own pocket.

        Oh I forgot, as a socialist you expect someone else to pay.

        • Colonial Viper 12.2.1.1

          Bullshit

          The socialisation of private sector losses on to Joe Public is the specialty of crony capitalism.

          • *_* 12.2.1.1.1

            I actually agree with you on this.

            But the costs should be made transparent for the public to debate and ultimately decide at the ballot box.

            As I recall it was the Labour govnt who decided to institute a bank guarantee in 2008.

            • Colonial Viper 12.2.1.1.1.1

              As I recall it was the Labour govnt who decided to institute a bank guarantee in 2008.

              Yep it was a mechanism that National used to sign and resign finance companies which weren’t eligible and would have fallen outside Labour’s guarantee.

              Ultimately, English used it to backstop hundreds of millions of SCF speculation which should have been severely haircut.

        • Lanthanide 12.2.1.2

          If I had a sufficiently large fortune so that $100-200k was just a small fraction of it, then I probably would.

  13. drongo 13

    Shows how dumb the general NZ voter is. Polls show up to 80% oppose asset sales but we put the ones who’re going to do it right back there so that they can. Same with Bennett, i suspect. all that tart cart claptrap combined with a bit of pseudo-caring Christine Rankin-speak bullshit and people give her the vote without really knowing why. We get what we deserve, a bunch of Banskey money-grubbing dirt bags who’ll sell us further down the river we’ve ever been before. I hope they sell the lot because we’re so hopeless and deserve to be severely punished for what we’ve done. There’s no other way we’re ever going to learn, so bring it on, Mr Key, get rid of everything as quickly as you can – just get it over with – we need to be punished now for being so stupid as to put you and your greedy mates back in charge.

    • Mehere 13.1

      nah, this shows how realistic and not idealistic the NZ electorate is. Voters are smart enough to tell the difference between wholesale asset sales and the mixed ownership model the National were proposing. 

      They’re also pragmatic enough to realise that these are extraordinary times that require some extraordinary solutions and a part privastisation of national assets is probably a good compromise when compared to a 100% sell off.

      You might patronisingly think the electorate are “dumb” but I think they smartly weighed up the options and voted for the most pragmatic solution.

      By campaigning on the “No Asset Sales” mantra, Labour misinterpreted the voting intentions of the electorate.

      Fucking idiots. Just like you.

      • Colonial Viper 13.1.1

        Mixed ownership model is just a start, National will fully privatise all those SOEs if it gets a third term.

        They’re also pragmatic enough to realise that these are extraordinary times that require some extraordinary solutions and a part privastisation of national assets is probably a good compromise when compared to a 100% sell off.

        BS. The correct solution would be to generate an extra $750M pa in taxes from the top 5% wealth holders in this country. Over a decade that would raise far more than these asset sales.

        Further the loss of income stream from those assets starts hurting NZ around year 9. The loss of 100% control over the assets starts hurting us from day 1.

        • Ant 13.1.1.1

          LOL you’d have to be a fucking idiot to sell any interest in an asset that is a necessity of life for it’s customers, is in a near monopoly position, and is efficient and making a good return. It’s a dumb move by any standard.

      • Jum 13.1.2

        No Mehere.

        The only thing Labour misinterpreted or more importantly overestimated was the voters’ ability to interpret the weasel-speak of Key and do their own homework on the various parties.

        The media admired Key’s cunning of having the election so soon after the RWC – another proof that Key knew the New Zealand voter had ‘more important things’ on their minds than doing a bit of intelligent political analysis.

        I wonder if the ‘smart’ public know how little control they will ever have again over any percentage of the assets once a part of them is sold. TPPA will see to that.

        Your cunning Mr Key has ensured the sell-off of the most valuable parts of our $220billion of New Zealand owned assets first because even he knows that the ‘smart’ ‘realistic’ voters will eventually wake up – but, and I’m sure you’ll be pleased to hear this, too late for the damage to be stopped.

        Seriously, Mehere, does Key give you copy pills to take so you can regurgitate his buzz words. ‘Pragmatic’, ‘mixed ownership model’ so on ad nauseum.

      • drongo 13.1.3

        Mehere – Key could tell you anything and you’d believe him. That’s the trouble, people are too stupid to see through his facade. They will begin to soon, though, although that doesn’t include you) because the cracks are beginning to get too obvious (although not obvious enough for you). The question is whether it’ll be too late and everything’s gone (although you won’t notice and think there’s only been a “partial sell-off” because “John Key said so”). Get a grip, man.

    • Mehere 13.2

      You guys need to get a reality check and realise how the average kiwi thinks. 

      In the mind of the voter when it came to asset sales, the two arguments were this:

      Labour: Hey, I know there are tough economic times ahead but no matter what, never ever will we sell any stake whatsoever in our valuable state owned assets. Nosiree! How about we increase the government’s income by introducing a bunch of new taxes instead?

      National:  Hey, I know there are tough economic times ahead but we need to be a bit realistic here. I know you don’t want to sell off our state assets but how about we sell a minority share of them but the government keeps the controlling share, freeing up the money to spend in other areas.

      Boiled down, those were the two arguments. The election results speak for themselves. The electorate overwhelmingly voted for the pragmatic National  approach over Labour’s ideological approach.

      You guys can blah blah blah until the cows come home on The Standard but it won’t change the fact that the electorate voted smartly and National won the mandate to enact their election pledges.

      Calling the electorate dumb, ignorant or whatever because they didn’t vote the way you wanted them to is not going to win you many more votes in 2014. Get smarter people!

      By the way, I’m not a dyed in the wool Tory. I’m one of those unpredictable swing voters who will vote for the party that’s proposing the best future direction for New Zealand, a country I’m very fond of.

      This year I voted for National. Suck it up Drongo, you fuckwit.

      • Colonial Viper 13.2.1

        Shame you don’t understand that selling off our best money making assets worsens New Zealand’s long term fiscal position, it doesn’t improve it.

        Further, increasing taxes on the wealthiest in NZ by a very affordable $650M to $750M pa brings in the same money within 4-5 years as selling off our assets…but we get to keep them and their income streams for the next generation as well!

        Grow a brain RWNJ

        • Mehere 13.2.1.1

          yeah, yeah, whatever, label me as a RWNJ if that makes you feel better.

          Do you do that to everyone who holds a different opinion to you, CV? In that case you’ve written off over half the electorate as RWNJ’s.

          Remind me, how is your pointless demonising of ordinary voters helping Labour to reconnect with the mainstream electorate again?

          It’s an interesting strategy that you have there.

          • Jum 13.2.1.1.1

            Mehere,

            Some questions:

            You say you are a swinging voter. When did you decide to swing to Key and National?

            What did you swing for?

            I’m interested because when you speak, as you are saying you are doing, for the ‘average’ voter, I noted that you have picked up Key-speak. Does that mean that everything he said he would do is fine by you because you are influenced enough to use his words?

            I have a problem with every voter being fine with everything Key said, but because e.g. he called asset sales by a different name, as you have, and not sold them off completely so far (hiding the fact that sovereign control of an asset disappears when any part of it is sold) somehow makes the sell-off less of a sell-off.

            When you agreed with his sell-off, did you understand at that time that the continued billions of dollars still being handed over in tax cuts could have been used instead of the sell-offs meaning we kept the assets and more importantly the continuing dividends? We also would have saved a heap of interest on the huge borrowings Key made to cover the tax cuts, which did not give ‘the average voter’ much of an increase. In fact so many of them are now out of work they get no tax cuts at all.

            Did you also know that Key was borrowing a million dollars more each week than he needed to, which doesn’t seem to be mentioned anymore, but which has ratcheted up the interest costs somewhat?

            • Mehere 13.2.1.1.1.1

              Hey Jum, it’s a bit late to answer all your questions. I might have a look at them tomorrow.

              But, for what it’s worth, I’m quite happy to share with you my voting history to prove my credentials as a swinging voter.

              I’m sure that CV and many others here will find this abhorrent as it’s not a vote by rote for Labour year after year after year, but here goes…

              1990 LABOUR (my first election, for Lianne Dalziel in CHCH Central)

              1993 LABOUR (for Jim Sutton, voting in Timaru)

              1996 PV: ACT, EV: LABOUR (First MMP election, still voting in Timaru)

              1999: PV: NATIONAL, EV: NATIONAL (I wasn’t keen at all on Helen Clark, voting in Hutt South)

              2002: PV: LABOUR, EV: LABOUR (I’d warmed to Helen Clark at this point and was quite happy to give Labour another go, voting in Rongatai)

              2005: PV: MAORI, EV: LABOUR (I was quite keen on seeing Pita and Turiana both getting in that year, I thought a party vote might help, voting in Rongatai and Annette King for local MP)

              2008: PV: NATIONAL, EV: LABOUR (Voting in Rongatai, voted for National for government and Annette King for local MP)

              2011: PV: NATIONAL, EV/; NATIONAL (Voting in Wellington Central)

              Well, that was quite an exercise, a bit of a blast from the past for me!

              Hopefully that gives you an insight into how some of us non-partisan folks vote. Yeah, we could just pick the red or the blue team and vote for them every year no matter what, but I value my vote more than that.

      • drongo 13.2.2

        “Boiled down, those were the two arguments.”
        No, you’re wrong, because you’re assuming Key’s telling the truth. Just watch how easily “partial” sales turn into a full blown sell-off.

        “The election results speak for themselves.”
        How do you explain how up to 80% of people, if you can believe the polls, say they don’t want asset sales?

        “The electorate overwhelmingly voted for the pragmatic National approach over Labour’s ideological approach.”
        No, again because of the overwhelmingly large number of people who’ve said they don’t want assets sold. You can’t explain this away by saying that people don’t agree in principle with asset sales but voted for them “because it’s the pragmatic thing to do” because the question people were asked is whether they support asset sales, i.e. whether they want the government to sell assets. This suggests that the electorate are stupid and will above all else vote for a cardboard cut-out that seems “nice” and comes across, less and less nowadays I might add, as “plausible”. That’s pure stupidity in anyone’s book (except yours).

        • Mehere 13.2.2.1

          yes, you’re absolutely right drongo, the electorate are “stupid” and they will “above all else vote for a cardboard cut-out that seems nice … and comes across, less and less nowadays as plausible”

          This is what is wrong with you Labour zealots, you think that the National voting electorate are stupid. Spoiler alert, we’re not. But anyway, keep on thinking that, because I don’t really care.
           
          Despite the public opinion and the overwhelming election results against you, you somehow delude yourself into thinking you capture the hearts and minds of ordinary, mainstream New Zealanders.

          Get a dose of reality, fool.

          • fender 13.2.2.1.1

            It’s not all that bad though, they were conned by a well oiled bunch of con-artists, so don’t be too harsh on easily led fickle voters.

            • Mehere 13.2.2.1.1.1

              Cool, don’t bother thinking about your vote and giving it the due consideration it deserves, just go on voting red like a dysfuctional robot if that’s all you know how to do.

              • Mehere

                Hey fender, just vote for the party you voted for last time and the time before that and the time before that and the time before that and the time before that and the time before that and the… just like a broken record. It’s the easiest voting strategy for simpletons like yourself.

                • felix

                  Pull your fucking head in, Mehere.

                  People commenting and posting here vote for a range of parties and candidates that they feel represent their interests.

                  There’s nothing in your voting record that shows any special insights into democracy, so if you’re here for a discussion then drop the patronising bullshit.

                  • Mehere

                    Score! The king of lefty condescension described me as ‘patronising’… I’ll chalk that up as a win!

                    Have a great Christmas and New Year Felix. I’m looking forward to being a more argumentative and patronising prick with you folk over the next three years of this dreadful government 🙂

                    But for now fuck it, it’s Christmas. Time to put politics aside and just enjoy the company of family and friends and the great kiwi summer.

                    Have a good one Felix. I hope to rattle your dags again next year! 

                • fender

                  Rather than employ your voting “strategy” I’ll make a decision on who to support based on their policies and plans for the whole country. Progressive policies that futher everybodys lives not just those at the top of the heap, but thanks for your “advice” and insight into a typical Nact voters thought process.

          • felix 13.2.2.1.2

            “Despite the public opinion and the overwhelming election results against you, you somehow delude yourself into thinking you capture the hearts and minds of ordinary, mainstream New Zealanders.”

            No, only about half of them. Same as you, Mehere.

  14. Pundit X 14

    I think we’ve been here before.. As Steve Tollestrup’s Campaign Manager I can say we did everything we possibly could to make it clear the Greens were only seeking the party vote. Unfortunately for some Green voters it would appear Labour is a toxic brand. and they simply won’t vote Labour under any circumstances particularly when the polls are showing National as a shoe in and there is no incentive to vote Labour.

    I foresaw there might be a problem and wrote to Goff in February suggesting Labour get together with the Greens at national level to look at ways we might overcome the issue of Labour’s electorate vote going to Green candidates. Goff never replied.. Is it likely Shearer will take a different view? Unfortunately I doubt it.

    • AlphaKiwi 14.1

      Best way is for the Greens and Labour to agree not to stand in the same electorates. Maybe a third could have only Green candidates standing and two thirds have only Labour candidates standing.

      • Sam 14.1.1

        Why would the Greens do that.
        It is Labour that needs the Greens, they are doing nicely already.
        The Greens would probably say – we stand in 2/3 of the electorates and you, Labour, stand in the other 1/3.

        • AlphaKiwi 14.1.1.1

          That would be fine by me, too.

        • Pete George 14.1.1.2

          Maybe parties need to think of different ways of trying to achieve what they want. The can’t just expect to stand candidates in electorates and expect all voters inclined towards their party to vote the same way. Voters have man reasons for choosing how to vote, and even those who vote strategically will think different strategies.

          The only way of ensuring no one will vote for a party’s candidate is not to stand one.

    • Oh Pundit, Steve said publicly he was endorsing Carmel and then it was shut down.  All the greens had to do was let him keep saying this.  It did not take a letter to Goff to achieve this.

      And meanwhile we have three more years of Bennett being a pseudo westie and driving a car that looks like a leopard.

      Westies deserve better. 

      • tc 14.2.1

        NZ desrved better…apathy was the winner so bend over my felow country folk here it comes.

      • Pundit X 14.2.2

        Au contraire Mickey the Greens went more than extra mile for Carmel for which there was no reciprocation on Labour’s part. You and Carmel met with Steve in August and offered him a deal which he was not in a position to accept without consulting the party nationally which I did. I then wrote to you and Carmel saying:
        “I understand you and Carmel have had an informal discussion with Steve last Friday regarding a joint campaign strategy in the Waitakere electorate. The Greens are always open to korero. If the Labour Party want to discuss some form of potential deal in Waitakere the Party should in the first instance contact our party co convener Roland Sapsford to discuss. Roland’s contact details are: roland.sapsford@greens.org.nz mobile 021 651 105.”

        Carmel wrote back saying:
        “I’m not looking to strike any formal deals, however I do hope to have a collegial relationship with Steve and any other like minded parties whilst out on the hustings.” The relationship was collegial.

        13,457 voted for Bennett. Amongst those voters were voters who had previously voted for Labour. Instead of white anting the Greens a good start might be an attempt to win back some of those voters. You only need a dozen..

        • chris73 14.2.2.1

          Ouch

          Thats gotta hurt

        • Mehere 14.2.2.2

          This is great entertainment, I should have got more popcorn in… carry on!

          • Chris Oden 14.2.2.2.1

            Waiting to hear your answer to Jums questions. Do it while you’re having your popcorn.

        • Ant 14.2.2.3

          How about Labour and the Greens both use their fucking smarts, you need a formal deal between leaders to exercise some common sense?

          • Pete George 14.2.2.3.1

            They got themselves in a bind on this, they heavily criticised National, Act and United Future for doing deals in the open so they had to try and fumble undercover. Inevitably they couldn’t keep all collusion hidden, this was apparent in Auckland Central, and Gareth Hughes ran a two faced campaign in Ohariu claiming in one sentence it was all up to the voters to decide while he blatantly promoted Chauvel in the next dozen.

          • Jum 14.2.2.3.2

            Ant

            It’s what I have always thought about Islam. People always laud the pure form of Islam. Yet it is always usurped by the greedy, the selfish, the misogynistic and the just plain Hitlerish.

            With people in charge of anything we always end up with the tainted and the tarnished rather than the pure and the polished. Greed and power really are evil.

            Instead of each party voting on the purity of bills they deal in power. Pete George is a clear example of greed and the need to excuse his hero Key for the garbage this government is trotting out – i.e. shitting on the people of New Zealand. Kiwis will wake up to that far too late. Key knows that.

        • mickysavage 14.2.2.4

          Um PX I get the feeling that this debate is going nowhere but you just proved my point. Steve publicly endorsed Carmel but the Greens then shut it down. There was no need for a “deal” all that had to happen was for Steve to be allowed to speak his mind. I thought the greens were all in favour of that sort of thing.

          • higherstandard 14.2.2.4.1

            Quite right Greg – how dare the Greens have their own strategy, candidates and policies don’t they know their job is to be subservient to Labour’s whims and to take instructions from Labour activists.

            • Colonial Viper 14.2.2.4.1.1

              That’s right. The Green’s need to take some lessons from how ACT kowtows to National for instance. At least ACT know how to grovel like proper functionaries.

              • Higherstandard

                Act knew its only hope was to kowtow to National – they are an irrelevant party inhabited by has been oddities, the greens are a serious political party with a significant following and future.

                • Jum

                  higherstandard – change your name – you don’t deserve it.

                  Banks was always National. He now gets his place back around the cabinet table ready to do Key’s bidding and taking the blame for Key’s agenda whereupon they both end up with knighthoods throwing a once worthy royal bestowing into disrepute – shame on you and them.

                  The mere fact that you pretend to them being separate political parties deserves the utmost contempt.

                • Jum

                  higherstandard – Banks and Key will be in bad company with Douglas and Fay, etc. The royal knighthoods of Queen Elizabeth II are really just payoffs.

                  I respect the Queen immensely but people like you and your masters have brought Her quality and majesty to a new low.

                  Unless I was wrong about Her self-respect as well… I listened to the Queen’s message yesterday – what a shame if that was just hype.

                  She might mean it but when She’s having to spread the message of people like you then Her time of relevance is nearing its end.

          • Pundit X 14.2.2.4.2

            Mickey you seem to want to rewrite history for the benefit of your fellow Labour members on this thread. There was no formal endorsement of Carmel just an off the cuff remark in front of eight people mostly her campaign team… There was no shut down. Carmel told the Herald that Steve endorsed her candacy. We let that stand rather than qualify it. White anting the Greens for the loss of a seat that was directly attributable to a poor campaign by Lynne Pillay’s team in 2008 isn’t going to encourage the Greens to further dialogue in 2014. Get your house in order mate. As David Cunliffe said, you’ve just been shellacked for the second time..

            • The Voice of Reason 14.2.2.4.2.1

              So did you encourage, however subtly, Green voters to electorate vote Carmel? Or did you, instead, enable Bennett by default?

              • Pundit X

                You have the facts VoR. Don’t try and put words in my mouth. One thing that seems to have eluded everyone thus far in this korero is the vainglorious run by Sue Bradford. Any accurate assessment of her candidacy would have to conclude she brought nothing fresh to the table but took 320 votes that almost certainly did NOT come from National voters.

                • Ant

                  LOL did you just call out Sue Bradford?

                  I really hope you never get anywhere serious up the Green hierarchy.

                  She’s not there to be fresh, she’s there for the people who have always existed and constantly been ignored or swept under the rug.

                  What a cock.

                  • Pundit X

                    You obviously didn’t read what I wrote Ant. For the less politically sophisticated amongst us I will spell it out and try and use words of one syllable.. Bradford offered no policy gains for the poor or disenfranchised that wasn’t being put forward by the Greens or Labour. Moreover had she won she would have had no way of implementing any of the policies she espoused. Sorry about the syllables Ant you’ll just have to use a dictionary..

                    • Ant

                      So how do the Greens implement policy then? Is it some magic way that is different to everyone else in parliament?

                      Or does it rely on exactly the same mechanism that Mana is seeking to use?

                      What Bradford via Mana offered, was a bottom line that neither the Greens or Labour have because they are parties that rely on a broad base of support. Love it or hate it the Greens are a mainstream political party now.

                • The Voice of Reason

                  How can I put words in your mouth by asking a question, pundit X? And would you care to answer the question?
                   
                  The reason I asked is that two Green candidates around my way specifically endorsed the Labour candidate and made it very clear they were only standing to lift the party vote. It was very mature and most encouraging for me as a fan of pre-election voting blocs and seat by seat arrangements.
                   
                  Agree about Mana, though, had the same problem in the two electorates I was working in. One plonker in particular seemed to think taking votes off the Labour candidate was why he was standing.

                  • Pundit X

                    VoR It may only be of historical interest but the Greens hoped to attract party votes from National by campaigning as an independent party and not committing to Labour a a coalition partner. Key recognised belatedly that it was a good strategy by saying any deal with the Greens was off the table as they were firmly in the Labour camp. It was a strategy that worked for the Greens. one third of the party votes from the specials that gave Bennett their electorate vote was for the Greens. In that situation it simply isn’t possible for Green candidates to openly endorse Labour electorate candidates. Steve voted for Carmel and told anyone who brought up the subject that he intended to. Within the constraints of our campaign nationally we went the extra mile for Carmel. Next time Labour needs muzzle belligerents like Mickey and come to the table with a serious proposal if we don’t want a repeat of this and other results nationally.

  15. billE 15

    Bennett’s career took off when she was given a great position for three years by a Murray McCully, she then spent two years in the very absurd business that is modern day REkRUITMANT, IT’S an iterrogation business that is built on dismissing 95% of job applicants according to your genuis business radar.

    She has not worked in real business. She was paid a high living allowance by the National Party, shame on the Waitakere burrough.

  16. john 17

    Maybe a high court petition should be made as we are looking at changes to MMP and there may well be important lessons from the situation in Waitakere.

    If not due to the cost of a petition then

    How have people been able to vote twice?

    How have people been able to vote if their names don’t appear on the roll?

    Not just 3 or 4 but it appears to be hundreds

    A defeated MP can get back to parliament on the list when the voting public have made a choice and voted he or she out out?

    • joe bloggs 17.1

      Evidence of dodgy voting has emerged in the battle for Waitakere. A judge has found nine people voted twice and 393 people voted despite not being on the electoral roll.

      Begs the question of how voting papers could be isssued if voters are not on the electoral role.

      I see that Iron Mike scrutinised the recount and doesn’t favour an electoral petition as he thinks it unlikely Sepuloni would win. Looks like game over for Carmel…

      [you can be issued a special vote if you aren’t on the printed roll but say that you enrolled after the cut-off date for the printed roll and live in the electorate. Obviously, some people are going to turn out not to be enrolled at all. It doesn’t mean anything malicious. Eddie]

      • chris73 17.1.1

        Hey Eddie, That sounds like a Tui Ad

        [sounds like you’re ignorant. About 8% of special votes are disallowed for various reasons. Most of them because it turns out they’re not enrolled anywhere. 17,000 were disallowed for that reason in 2008 – there is nothing special about what happened in Waitakere this time, it was basically the same number as 08. Check out the analysis of disallowed special votes. http://electionresults.org.nz/electionresults_2008/e9/html/e9_part10_3.html Eddie]

  17. prism 18

    Eddie Thanks for the explanation. I presume that they have to produce some proof of identity like driving licence and some bill to them showing address in that electorate.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 18.1

      One well known person enrolled in an electorate despite never having lived there.

      Yes thats right John Key has never lived in his Helensville electorate, not that you have to to become the MP.

      But it is a requirement to live at the address you give for at least the previous month when you enroll.

      Key of course cant vote for himself as he is enrolled in Epsom for his address in St Stephens Ave Parnell.

      He did it to curry favour with the party hacks who decided who would be the National candidate at the time- and throw out a sitting National MP which was very unusual. This was a bit dodgy process as well as some of the outsiders got lost and would have not had their vote count.

      So Key started out his political career by an illegal act relating to the electoral process. Pity an electoral petition wasnt done at the time. It certainly would have convicted him of corrupt practice if what is known now had come to light.

  18. henry olongo 19

    Hey Chris 73- this ‘we’ buzz is pretty funny!
    You & your doppelganger or what champ?

    • chris73 19.1

      Me and the rest of the population that decided National should be in power and that Labour shouldn’t be I guess (I will admit it was a close run thing thanks to the dodgy, private dealings that Labour tried to get the Greens to go along with ;))

      • ghostwhowalksnz 19.1.1

        If it was dodgy, then why did National do the same deals with ACT in New Plymouth and in Ohariu. Dont you think it was highly unusual for ACT not to stand against Dunne ? ( it was the only Wellington seat they didnT

        Best of all Nationals lifeline for the next election is NZ First- revenge is a dish best served cold

        • chris73 19.1.1.1

          “If it was dodgy, then why did National do the same deals with ACT in New Plymouth and in Ohariu. Dont you think it was highly unusual for ACT not to stand against Dunne ? ( it was the only Wellington seat they didnT”

          – Because every party wants to be in charege and the ends justifies the means but as far as I’m concerned all deals done whether they’re in public or private are dodgy no matter the political party.

          Yes its naive of me but I’d like to think that everyone should vote for the MP and Party they support

          “Best of all Nationals lifeline for the next election is NZ First- revenge is a dish best served cold”

          – Annoying yes but it won’t stop National doing what they want because they”re still in charge and come next election Winstonfirsts support will drift away somewhere else

  19. Jum 20

    Mehere …said
    19 December 2011 at 1:38 am

    ‘Hey Jum, it’s a bit late to answer all your questions. I might have a look at them tomorrow.’

    I haven’t had a reply from you on my questions. I’ll repeat them:
    ‘Jum 13.2.1.1.1
    19 December 2011 at 12:54 am

    Mehere,

    Some questions:

    You say you are a swinging voter. When did you decide to swing to Key and National?

    What did you swing for?

    I’m interested because when you speak, as you are saying you are doing, for the ‘average’ voter, I noted that you have picked up Key-speak. Does that mean that everything he said he would do is fine by you because you are influenced enough to use his words?

    I have a problem with every voter being fine with everything Key said, but because e.g. he called asset sales by a different name, as you have, and not sold them off completely so far (hiding the fact that sovereign control of an asset disappears when any part of it is sold) somehow makes the sell-off less of a sell-off.

    When you agreed with his sell-off, did you understand at that time that the continued billions of dollars still being handed over in tax cuts could have been used instead of the sell-offs meaning we kept the assets and more importantly the continuing dividends? We also would have saved a heap of interest on the huge borrowings Key made to cover the tax cuts, which did not give ‘the average voter’ much of an increase. In fact so many of them are now out of work they get no tax cuts at all.

    Did you also know that Key was borrowing a million dollars more each week than he needed to, which doesn’t seem to be mentioned anymore, but which has ratcheted up the interest costs somewhat?’

    Thanks,
    Jum

    • Mehere 20.1

      Hey Jum. I started writing a detailed reply to your questions and halfway through I thought fuck it, it’s Christmas.

      Fuck off and go and enjoy yourself with your family and friends.

      I think we can agree on one thing, New Zealand is pretty bloody awesome in the summertime. 

      Have a great Christmas and new year. I look forward to engaging you in debate over the next three years of this ‘tyrannical’ government 🙂
       

      • fender 20.1.1

        Have yourself that simpleton minded xmas you there Mehere

        Yes I objected to your abuse, scroll up if you forgot.

        • Mehere 20.1.1.1

          ha ha, you too Fender. I’m just being a prick, don’t take me seriously. This is the internet and we’re all fuckwits on the internet.

          Enjoy your Christmas and New Year and the enjoyment of being with your family and friends instead of us internet fuckwits! 🙂

  20. Jum 21

    Have a good Christmas and New Year yourself.

    PS Do your homework before you debate with me. Politics isn’t a game. Generations after you and I will suffer when people use political power for selfish ends.

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    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    4 days ago
  • Raise the Bar: 10 questions to ask your employer proposing redundancy
    Kia ora my name is Chloe Ann-King* and I am the founder of Raise the Bar, a campaign and non-profit that gives free legal aid, advocacy and tautoko to hospitality workers in Aotearoa. Right now all over our country hospo workers are being fired at will, having shifts cut or being ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    4 days ago
  • An equitable way to support business
    The Herald reports that the government is planning to lend billions of dollars to large businesses to keep them operating during the pandemic. As with mortgage relief, this is necessary: we need companies to stay in business, to reduce the economic damage and help things get restarted again when this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Hard News: Together Alone
    We're about to do something unprecedented as a nation. We hope that by taking this extraordinary action before a single life in New Zealand has been lost to the deadly novel virus we will save tens of thousands of lives. Our  lives. We'll do it together, in households, in isolation ...
    4 days ago
  • Why timing is everything: ‘A time to refrain from embracing’ starts today
    “There is a time for everything,    and a season for every activity under the heavens.”So writes the author of Ecclesiastes, a book in the Old Testament that’s counted as a ‘wisdom’ book and written as if by an unnamed king of Jerusalem. But who would have thought there would be a time ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    4 days ago
  • Dealing with the Covid-19 Tsunami.
    I was surprised when the prime minister described the Economic Response to Covid-19 package as the ‘largest peacetime government spend in New Zealand's history’. Reflecting – checking through history – I realised that the term ‘spend’ was crucial and the package had no income tax cuts. Even so, it has ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    4 days ago
  • What about renters?
    The government today announced the latest part of its pandemic relief package: a six-month mortgage holiday for people whose incomes have been affected by the pandemic. Which is great, because these people are going to need help, and that's what the government should be doing. At the same time, it ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Living within our means.
    Years ago the Argentine sociologist Carlos Weisman wrote a book titled “Living within our Means.” It was a critique of Argentine society that focused on the paradoxical question of why, in a land of plenty, there was so much economic instability, inequality, corruption and political turmoil. His conclusion was basically ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    5 days ago
  • Transparency and the pandemic
    Parliament will be leading by example and adjourning tomorrow after a special sitting to consider an epidemic notice and state of emergency. Day-to-day oversight of the government will be delegated to a select committee. But that's not the only overight mechanism. The OIA will still be law, and (so far) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • ‘Overjoyed’: a leading health expert on New Zealand’s coronavirus shutdown, and the challengin...
    Michael Baker, University of Otago Overjoyed. That’s not a word epidemiologists normally use, but that’s how I felt after hearing Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s announcement about New Zealand’s COVID-19 shutdown of everything except essential services for at least four weeks from midnight on Wednesday. More than anything, I just ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    5 days ago
  • One way to solve the housing crisis
    How much homelessness is caused by house hoarding? We're about to find out. The pandemic has destroyed tourism, which means that house hoarders who put their hoarded properties up as short-term tourist rentals are now offering them on the ordinary rental market:Property investors are pulling properties from Airbnb to offer ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • The pros and cons of planting trees to address global warming
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Bruce Lieberman It seems like such a simple, straightforward, empowering idea: plant trees – a lot of trees – all over the world, and watch the planet’s temperature fall. Who doesn’t love a tree or two, even far more – the right ...
    5 days ago
  • Not a grand coalition, but a government of national salvation
    According to Newshub, Simon Bridges is open to joining a “grand coalition” with Labour as we hunker down to go into a month long lockdown. The idea is sound. Before now, the role of the opposition was to scrutinise and oppose. In the context of what almost amounts to a ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    6 days ago
  • Raise the Bar: hospitality workers & wage subsidy entitlements
    Kia ora my name is Chloe Ann-King* and I am the founder of Raise the Bar, a campaign and non-profit that gives free legal aid, advocacy and tautoko to hospitality workers in Aotearoa. Right now all over our country hospo workers are being fired at will, having shifts cut or ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    6 days ago
  • Lifting our game against COVID-19
    We need to be lifting our game against COVID-19. You and I need to help those working to prevent the spread of COVID-19 while they’re trying to lift the testing and treatment efforts. We don’t want to be playing this game running backwards. Best to play it solidly forward, from ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    6 days ago
  • The maths and ethics of minimising COVID-19 deaths in NZ
    Prof Tony Blakely, Prof Michael Baker, and Prof Nick Wilson The NZ Government must do more to clearly articulate its COVID-19 strategy: eradication or ‘flattening the curve’ mitigation. But to do so means understanding the maths and ethics of both these strategies. In this blog, we adapt our work for ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    6 days ago
  • All aboard the Covid Train
    A few days ago I was starting to write something about the pandemic, which now seems unconscionable. It took the form of a letter to an agony aunt:“Dear Deidre, I have an ugly confession. I am quite excited by Covid-19.”This is how the piece went:“I’m not a psychopath, honest. Although the ...
    PunditBy Phil Vine
    6 days ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #12
    Story of the Week... Toon of the Week... Climate Feedback Article Review... Coming Soon on SkS... Climate Feedback Claim Reviews... SkS Week in Review... Poster of the Week... Story of the Week... In Just 10 Years, Warming Has Increased the Odds of Disasters The likelihood of extreme events ...
    6 days ago
  • We are all socialists now
    Last week, the government announced a $12 billion initial package to support people during the pandemic. Today, the Reserve Bank is buying government bonds - effectively printing money - to keep up the money supply during the crisis. Normally such moves would have the right apoplectic. Instead, the National Party ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A plea to experts: safeguard your role in public life
    I am a pundit, somebody who opines and comments on the news. There are no real qualifications to punditry though having a rudimentary way with words and good general knowledge helps. That is one reason there is a constant oversupply of would-be pundits and why it is quite hard to ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    7 days ago
  • Enlightenment when?
    I recently encountered the following prescription from a Faculty of Education at a leading New Zealand University. At first I wondered if it was another product of the postmodern generator (http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/), designed to create gibberish in the postmodern form, but I’m told it is real: The “schooled” society: Towards the ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Corballis
    7 days ago
  • What the Crisis Can teach Us
    The coronavirus pandemic has of course had a major impact on individual lives and on societies as a whole. But, long after the crisis has passed (assuming it does), we will begin to realise that its real and lasting significance lies in the lessons it has taught us, if only ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    7 days ago
  • Hammering home measures to stop COVID-19
    COVID-19 has plunged Aotearoa New Zealand (indeed, the world) into territory that, while maybe not totally unprecedented, certainly hasn’t been seen during the lifetimes of most of us here today. Our borders are closed to non-citizens, we’re being told not to gather in groups of more than 500 outside/100 inside, ...
    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    7 days ago
  • What does ‘level two’ mean – and why does it matter?
    For the last few weeks, I’ve been urging you to prepare yourself, your family, business, and community for Covid-19. Now it’s time for real action.  Yesterday the director-general of health Dr Ashley Bloomfield announced another 13 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in New Zealand, bringing our total to date to 52. ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    7 days ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #12
    A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week, i.e., Sun, Mar 15, 2020 through Sat, Mar 21, 2020 Editor's Pick Now Isn’t the Time to Forget About Our Climate Change Efforts   Tasha Tilberg, Lindsey Wixson, and Liu Wen photographed ...
    7 days ago
  • Is the Guardian becoming  a real newspaper again?
    by Jan Rivers The article has been corrected to show that it was Ewen MacAskill, former Guardian journalist and not Luke Harding who travelled to meet Edward Snowden with journalist Glenn Greenwald and filmmaker Laura Poitras.  Some of the Guardian’s well-known journalists who did not sign the protest letter are ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Life asserts itself regardless
    by Cultural Worker Late March 2020 amidst the virus. With gigs crashing and burning all around it was without much hope that I called a long standing rest home booking: “ Hi, I’m supposed to be entertaining at your place this afternoon – is it still on?” “”If you don’t ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Politics, the possible, and the pandemic
    Whenever people demand real change from their politicians, we're told that "politics is the art of the possible". The implication is that change isn't possible, so we'd better just get used to the sucky status quo. But now that there's a pandemic, a lot of things we were previously told ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The Only Way Through This Crisis Is Together.
    Together: In leading New Zealand through the Covid-19 Pandemic, the Prime Minister could do a lot worse than allow herself to be guided by the spirit of collective sacrifice and co-operation that animated the New Zealanders of 80 years ago. Most Kiwis alive today have had no opportunity to prove their ...
    1 week ago
  • GFC vs Covid-19
    It is said that generals fight the last war. In the case of the early stages of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) they had learned from the Great Depression of the 1930s and they fought intelligently and successfully. Later their advice would be ignored in favour of the Austerians who ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    1 week ago
  • Nobody Left Behind.
    Solidarity Forever: All over the world, the arrival of the Covid-19 virus has exposed the fragility of the walls we erect around ourselves and our loved ones. It has shattered our illusions of autonomy and revealed to us how utterly dependent we all are on other human-beings. Finally, we see ...
    1 week ago
  • Rebuilding a truly “Democratic” counter, or a “moderate Republican” bolt-hol...
    Looking across the various arguments for/against the leading candidates to take the Democratic Nomination, you might honestly be very hard pressed to tell. There are a number of things that have now started happening since Amy Klobuchar and “Mayor Pete” Buttigieg both threw the towel in and immediately (and ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    1 week ago
  • Abortion law reform a win for women
    by Daphna Whitmore Abortion is no longer in the Crimes Act in New Zealand. The law reform passed yesterday and now abortion is a medical matter between a woman and her doctor. Many women’s groups and progressive people have campaigned for reform for decades. The women’s liberation movement and some ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • How to spot bogus science stories and read the news like a scientist
    Doug Specht, University of Westminster and Julio Gimenez, University of Westminster When fake news, misreporting and alternative facts are everywhere, reading the news can be a challenge. Not only is there plenty of misinformation about the coronavirus pandemic, climate change and other scientific topics floating around social media, you also ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Why New Zealand needs to continue decisive action to contain coronavirus
    Michael Baker, University of Otago and Nick Wilson, University of Otago With some of the toughest border restrictions and a newly-announced NZ$500 million boost to health services, New Zealand is among a small number of countries with a strategy to contain the COVID-19 pandemic. New Zealand is also fortunate in ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the pandemic II
    As expected, the government has introduced a sessional order to allow Parliament to operate during the pandemic. You can read it on the Order Paper here, but the short version is that questions and motions can be filed electronicly, select committees can work remotely, and the the Business Committee can ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • When a virus goes viral: pros and cons to the coronavirus spread on social media
    Axel Bruns, Queensland University of Technology; Daniel Angus, Queensland University of Technology; Timothy Graham, Queensland University of Technology, and Tobias R. Keller, Queensland University of Technology News and views about coronavirus has spread via social media in a way that no health emergency has done before. Platforms like Twitter, Facebook, ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • How to survive 14 days of self-isolation
    So you’ve recently returned from overseas, come into contact with someone who tested positive, got a bit of a dry cough yourself or perhaps just want to self isolate for 14 days to avoid other people who might have COVID-19. Here are a few tips and tricks to help get ...
    1 week ago
  • Abortion Legislation Bill passes third reading
    Some fave speeches:     ...
    Boots TheoryBy Stephanie Rodgers
    1 week ago
  • Why Leadership Matters – More Than Anything.
    Our Good Fortune: Precisely because she has never been an ideologue (she calls herself a “pragmatic idealist”) Jacinda Ardern has a political nimbleness and spontaneity which, when infused with her exceptional emotional intelligence, produces spectacular demonstrations of leadership. Jacinda's empathic political personality contrasts sharply with the less-than-sunny ways of her ...
    1 week ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #11, 2020
    1 week ago
  • 68-51
    The Abortion Legislation Bill has just passed its third reading, 68-51. NZ First MPs bailed because their referendum amendment didn't pass, but there were plenty of MPs to provide a majority without them. The bill is a long way from perfect - most significantly, it subjects pregnant people who need ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The ‘herd immunity’ route to fighting coronavirus is unethical and potentially dangerous
    As most of the world tries to suppress the coronavirus spread, some countries are going it alone – trying to manage the pandemic through so-called “herd immunity”. Herd immunity means letting a large number of people catch a disease, and hence develop immunity to it, to stop the virus spreading. ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Eight new COVID-19 cases today. It’s no surprise when you look at some numbers
    So, as I sit at home with a very, very slight headache (i.e. not at work when I would otherwise be so), the now familiar figure of Ashley Bloomfield reports eight new confirmed cases of COVID-19  including two in Waikato. A surprise, given that we had just twelve yesterday? No. ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    2 weeks ago
  • The WINZ Paradox versus the new COVID-19 Reality: Get real people, seriously…
    Many who advocated for, and voted for, the current Coalition – particularly those who voted Labour and the Green Party – expected to see a sea change in the reality of social services. A real, deep change of attitude, approach of process through which the system negotiates the difficult and ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • The Air New Zealand bailout
    Stuff reports that the government is going to have to throw $2 - 3 billion at Air new Zealand to get it through the pandemic. Good. While international routes are basicly closed, Air New Zealand is a strategic asset which is vital to our tourism industry, not to mentioning airfreight. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Why NZ’s tough coronavirus travel rules are crucial to protecting lives at home and across the Pac...
    New Zealand’s border restrictions will come with significant job and business losses in the tourism sector, both at home and in the Pacific. But the new travel rules are absolutely necessary to protect the health of New Zealanders and people right across Pacific Islands, because New Zealand is a gateway ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • The tiniest of teeth
    Back in early 2018, as a shoddy legal tactic to try and avoid the prisoner voting ban being formally declared inconsistent with the BORA by the Supreme Court, Justice Minister Andrew Little floated the idea of greater legal protection for human rights. When the Supreme Court case didn't go the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • One simple, common factor to success against COVID-19
    Professor Philip Hill and Associate Professor James Ussher Most infectious diseases have an Achilles heel, the secret is to find it. The question is if we don’t have a drug or a vaccine for COVID-19, is there something else we can do to beat it? Some people estimate that, without ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • National should isolate Simon Bridges
    The Coalition Governments $12.1 billion economic package to help combat the financial effects of COVID-19 was generally well received across the board, even amongst many business leaders who would normally be critical of a Labour led Government.However there was one glaringly obvious exception, Simon Bridges. The so-called leader of the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • How testing for Covid-19 works
    With confirmed cases of Covid-19 in New Zealand up to 12, many influential people are writing open letters and opinion pieces and doing press conferences asking why we aren’t pulling out all the stops and testing thousands of people a day like they are in South Korea. The thing is, ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    2 weeks ago
  • The COVID-19 package and the limits of capitalism
    by Daphna Whitmore The willingness to put human life before business shows that sometimes capitalism is capable of suspending its relentless drive for profit. For a short time it can behave differently. Flatten the curve is the public health message since COVID-19 suddenly overwhelmed the hospital system in northern Italy. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Black April, May and June?
    Worldwide, the 1918 influenza epidemic – wrongly called ‘Spanish’ flu – lasted about two years. However, it lasted about six weeks in New Zealand (remembered as ‘Black November’, because the dead turned a purplish-black). It is thought about 7000 Pakeha died and 2,500 Maori. The population mortality rate was about ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    2 weeks ago
  • COVID 19 has struck… as has a lot of terrible ineptitude from far too many
    In a world and a time when the worst off and most vulnerable have been asked, time and again, to foot the bill for the complete subjugating to the will of the 1% thanks to the GFC, at a point where the world as a whole is now seeing quite ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • What’s in the Coronavirus Package?
    With the economy already reeling from a crisis that’s barely begun, the Government today sought to provide reassurance to workers and businesses in the form of a massive phallic pun to insert much-needed cash into the private sector and help fight the looming pandemic. Here are the key components: $5.1 ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • I just had my benefit suspended during a fucking pandemic
    I am a member of the working poor and so still need state welfare to make rent. So I had booked an appointment for yesterday with my caseworker at Work and Income New Zealand (WINZ) to apply for a transition to work grant. However the current health advice in New ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    2 weeks ago
  • A good first step
    Today the government announced a financial package to deal with the effects of the pandemic. So far, it looks good: an initial $500 million for health to deal with immediate priorities, wage subsidies for affected businesses, $585 a week from WINZ for people self-isolating who can't work from home, and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

  • Week That Was: COVID-19 Alert Level 4
    The COVID-19 situation in New Zealand is moving fast - and to avoid what we've seen overseas - the Government's response must be to move fast too. We're committed to keeping New Zealanders safe and well-informed every step of the way. ...
    17 hours ago
  • SPEECH: Green Party Co-leader James Shaw – Ministerial statement on State of National Emergency an...
    Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  The scale of what we face right now is unlike anything we have ever seen before. Overcoming it is our common purpose. ...
    4 days ago
  • Winston Peters urging New Zealanders overseas to stay put
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters is encouraging New Zealanders overseas to stay where they are amid the COVID-19 pandemic. "We are reaching a point where the best option for most New Zealanders offshore is to shelter in place, by preparing to safely stay where they are.” "This includes following the instructions ...
    5 days ago
  • New Zealanders overseas encouraged to shelter in place
    Rt. Hon. Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs Foreign Minister Winston Peters is encouraging the tens of thousands of New Zealanders travelling overseas to consider sheltering in place, in light of COVID-19.  “Since 18 March, we have been warning New Zealanders offshore that the window for flying ...
    5 days ago
  • Ground-breaking abortion law passes, giving NZers compassionate healthcare
    Ground-breaking law has passed that will decriminalise abortion and ensure women and pregnant people seeking abortions have compassionate healthcare. ...
    1 week ago
  • Package supports Kiwis to put collective health first
    The Green Party says that the measures announced by the Government today will help families and businesses to prioritise our collective health and wellbeing in the response to COVID-19. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Winston Peters: COVID-19 rescue package ‘more significant’ than any worldwide
    As New Zealanders brace for a global downturn due to Covid-19, Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters says his Coalition Government’s rescue package "more significant" than any other he's seen around the world. The Coalition is to reveal a multi-billion-dollar stimulus plan on Tuesday afternoon designed to cushion the economic blow ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Our response to COVID-19
    We know some people are feeling anxious about COVID-19. While the situation is serious, New Zealand has a world-class health system and we’re well-prepared to keep New Zealanders safe. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • ‘Demerit Points System’ will address youth crime
    Darroch Ball MP, Spokesperson for Law and Order A New Zealand First member’s bill drawn from the ballot today seeks to overhaul the youth justice system by instigating a system of demerit points for offences committed by young offenders. “The ‘Youth Justice Demerit Point System’ will put an end to ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Investment in kingfish farming
    Hon. Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund is investing $6 million in a land-based aquaculture pilot to see whether yellowtail kingfish can be commercially farmed in Northland, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. A recirculating land-based aquaculture system will be built and operated ...
    2 weeks ago
  • 1BT grants for Northland planting
    Hon. Shane Jones, Minister for Forestry Forestry Minister Shane Jones has announced two One Billion Trees programme grants of more than $1.18 million to help hapu and iwi in Northland restore whenua and moana. “Many communities around Aotearoa have benefited from One Billion Trees funding since the programme was launched ...
    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand reaffirms support for Flight MH17 judicial process
    Rt. Hon. Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs Ahead of the start of the criminal trial in the Netherlands on 9 March, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has reaffirmed the need to establish truth, accountability and justice for the downing of Flight MH17 ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF investment in green hydrogen
    Rt. Hon. Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister The Government is investing $19.9 million through the Provincial Growth Fund in a game-changing hydrogen energy facility in South Taranaki, Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters announced today. “The development of alternative energy initiatives like this one is vital for the Taranaki region’s economy. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Coronavirus support for Pacific
    Rt. Hon. Winston Peters, Minister for Foreign Affairs Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters says New Zealand is partnering with countries in the Pacific to ensure they are prepared for, and able to respond to the global threat of Coronavirus (COVID-19). “There are currently no confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Green Party passes landmark law to ensure deaf and disabled voices heard equally in democracy
    Chlöe Swarbrick's Members Bill to support disabled general election candidates has passed into law. ...
    3 weeks ago

  • Tariff concessions on COVID-19 related products
    New Zealand will temporarily remove tariffs on all medical and hygiene imports needed for the COVID-19 response. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker and Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Kris Faafoi said today that the New Zealand Customs Service will apply tariff concessions to all diagnostic reagents and testing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago
  • Clarification of modification to wage subsidy scheme
    Minister of Finance Grant Robertson has clarified that the changes to the wage subsidy scheme announced yesterday mean that employers should be passing on the full subsidy to workers, except in the case where the person’s normal income is less than the level of the subsidy. “We still want employers ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago
  • Face masks flowing to DHBs
    Medical face masks from the national reserve supply are now being distributed to District Health Boards, while at the same time local production is being ramped up. Yesterday more than 640,000 masks were sent to DHBS – that is an immediate two week supply, with more to follow in coming ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • COVID-19: Further steps to protect New Zealanders’ jobs
    The Government has made modifications to the wage subsidy scheme to ensure people don’t lose their jobs during the national lockdown. These changes will soften the impact of COVID-19 on workers, families and businesses, and position them to exit the lockdown and look to recovery, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Tax relief for Mycoplasma Bovis farmers
    Farmers whose herds were culled in response to the outbreak of Mycoplasma bovis will be able to minimise the tax treatment of their income in some circumstances. Revenue Minister Stuart Nash says Cabinet has agreed to change the law. It means farmers may be eligible to spread their income over ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • $27 million for NGOs and community groups to continue providing essential services
    A $27 million dollar package, effective immediately, is being provided to social sector services and community groups to ensure they can continue to provide essential support to communities as we stay at home as a nation to stop the spread of COVID-19, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced. “At ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Statement on guilty plea of March 15 terrorist
    “The guilty plea today will provide some relief to the many people whose lives were shattered by what happened on March 15,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “These guilty pleas and conviction bring accountability for what happened and also save the families who lost loved ones, those who were injured, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • COVID-19 updates
    The Prime Minister is holding daily press conferences to update New Zealanders on the Government's response to COVID-19. Links to videos and transcripts of these updates below. These transcripts also include All of Government press conferences led by Director Ministry of Health's Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield. 25 March: Live update from the Prime ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Police numbers break through 10,000 mark
    Frontline Police numbers have broken through the 10,000 mark for the first time in history as officers step forward to keep the community safe during the COVID19 lockdown. “Two Police graduations in Auckland and Wellington in the past week have been conducted in unprecedented circumstances,” Police Minister Stuart Nash said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Urgent tax measures for economic recovery
    Urgent legislation has been passed to support the package of economic and social measures needed to recover from the impact of the coronavirus outbreak. “The COVID-19 Response (Taxation and Social Assistance Urgent Measures) Bill will cushion New Zealanders from the worst economic impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak,” said Revenue Minister ...
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    4 days ago
  • Further support for farmers and growers as drought persists
    From tomorrow, Government support for farmers and growers affected by drought will be expanded and extended across the country, with access to Rural Assistance Payments (RAPS) available throughout the North Island, parts of the South Island and the Chatham Islands, Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni announced. “These challenging conditions have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • COVID-19: Temporary changes to Education Act
    Parliament has passed amendments to legislation that give the Secretary of Education stronger powers to act in the fight to limit the spread of COVID-19, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “They are part of a suite of changes passed under the COVID-19 Response (Urgent Management Measures) Legislation Bill,” Chris ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar join NZ and Singapore in committing to keeping supply a...
    Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar have joined forces with New Zealand and Singapore by committing to keep supply chains open and remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis.  Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker today welcomed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • COVID-19: Rent increase freeze and more protection for tenants
    Immediate freeze on rent increases Tenancies will not be terminated during the lock-down period, unless the parties agree, or in limited circumstances Tenants who had previously given notice can stay in their if they need to stay in the tenancy during the lock-down period Tenants will still be able to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Working together to protect businesses and workers
    As New Zealand unites to lock-down in the fight against COVID-19, the Finance Minister is urging all businesses and workers to stay connected over the next four weeks. “We understand the extreme pressure many businesses are under right now. I know most business owners think of their workers as family ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • State of National Emergency declared to fight COVID-19
    A State of National Emergency has been declared across the country as the Government pulls out all the stops to curtail the spread of COVID-19. “Today we put in place our country’s second ever State of National Emergency as we fight a global pandemic, save New Zealanders’ lives and prevent ...
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