web analytics

Election debates to be 2 vs. 1

Written By: - Date published: 11:49 am, August 10th, 2017 - 33 comments
Categories: election 2017, jacinda ardern - Tags: , , ,

33 comments on “Election debates to be 2 vs. 1 ”

  1. Union city greens 1

    That’s a bull shit call. This decision has to be challenged and an impartial moderator demanded.

    • Union city greens 1.1

      Perhaps labour should get a deal stitched up with TV3 at competing time slots for one on one and phone in sessions and totally boycott tvnz.
      Let Hoskins debate his right testicle off and we’ll compare ratings to gauge the winner.

  2. Johan 2

    Certainly not that biased, self-absorbed clown???

  3. Carolyn_nth 3

    It doesn’t matter how close to impartial Hosking comes in hosting the debate. Hosking’s identity is strongly associated with right wing nastiness. The sight of his face on TV is always a visual reminder of this.

    By appointing him as host, TVNZ tacitly reinforces their support of Hosking’s vicious, anti-social, elitist rants.

  4. Robert Guyton 4

    Jacinda will brush this off as a trifle. The inappropriateness of the host’s manner will galvanise the viewing audience and Jacinda’s support will soar. We shouldn’t get our knickers in a twist over this; we did last time and he wasn’t dropped. Fight where it matters.

    • OncewasTim 4.1

      I hope she wears a jacket with cuff buttons she can pull constantly

      • Cemetery Jones 4.1.1

        It’s the French cuffed shirt you need! Gotta have those cufflinks to toy with!

      • Robert Guyton 4.1.2

        Oh, that’s elegant, OncewasTim.
        She could even pull her own ponytail! That’d bring the House down 🙂

    • AB 4.2

      That’s the courageous thing to do.
      Myself – If I was in the LP I’d get someone to have a quiet word with TVNZ CEO and tell him that Labour have a policy in the bottom drawer about restructuring TVNZ – selling TV2 and making TV1 completely non-commercial and accompanied by a total cleanout of all senior staff. “Cultural renewal” in fact. I’d say that lots of people were thinking that it was about time to look in the bottom drawer in case there was anything important lurking in there that had been overlooked for a while.
      Oh – and much as I love the Greens, this is why we need Labour to be a 40% party, so the right people are scared of it.

      • WILD KATIPO 4.2.1

        That’s the spirit !

        Hit these media bums the only way they understand – in their pockets !!!

        • the pigman 4.2.1.1

          That’s the spirit!

          Threaten a state broadcaster with privatisation and redundancies! Sure to evoke sympathy.

          Then we can get on with the Purge we’ve all been waiting for. Ready the gulags, comrades, the time of the authoritarian fut nucks will soon return!

          • AB 4.2.1.1.1

            Not a threat pigman, just a ‘heads up’ on future policy direction. Not authoritarian either – in fact quite consultative in a way. And it’s good policy anyway if TVNZ is to truly discharge its responsibilities as the state broadcaster. The discussion would merely be around where it sits on the priority list – there is after all so much of National’s sh*t to clean up it doesn’t necessarily have to be the first thing that gets done..

          • WILD KATIPO 4.2.1.1.2

            That’s the spirit , pigman ! ,… yes , a few well placed words about certain extremists losing their jobs and being replaced with those with more moderate views… and I concede, it could all be done without privatizing anything.

            As for gulags and authoritarian fut nucks ,…

            Been to WINZ lately ?

            • the pigman 4.2.1.1.2.1

              Now I know it feels good to feel the political tide coming in/lapping at your toes but…

              Might be a bit early to start dropping dark hints (let’s say they’re not threats) to media executives, don’t you think?

              Especially since those media executives’ organisations have basically been unrelentingly hostile to Labour since Helen Clark left the leadership, and that pall of hostility has only started to clear since the MSM finally now have their preferred candidate leading the NZLP? I mean, look at how Gower fawns…

              As for WINZ offices, I can well imagine. Watching “I, Daniel Blake” was enough dehumanisation for me…

              • Robert Guyton

                I agree with the pigman – threats, subtle or otherwise, show support for the “threats way” – we don’t do that, so don’t do that! I reckon.

                • Stuart Munro

                  When it comes to Mediaworks losing its sweetheart funding I imagine any responsible auditor would demand it. That should be a promise, not a threat.

          • philj 4.2.1.1.3

            Pigman. You obviously missed it. We already have had the purge for quite a while. it’s called Mike.

    • @Robert Guyton

      You know, … there’s a lot of good sense in what you are saying , matey… after all … we are talking ” BUT , … YOU !!!… YOU !!! ” Jacinda Adern here… there’s no doubt Adern has a steel backbone when it comes to media gits.

      I don’t think Hosking would dare take on Adern in a full frontal assault… he will be advised carefully on what tack to take… of that we can be sure.

      But the mere fact that we can almost guarantee that he will be advised demonstrates bias.

    • mary_a 4.4

      @ Robert Guyton (4) … Jacinda will be able to handle herself well in the debates. She is intelligent and articulate. Hosking is anything but.

      As Jacinda has said, she will be concentrating on her opponent, not the moderator.

    • Robert Guyton 4.5

      Yeah, but…even Farrar says:
      “Arden is showing her smarts by not complaining. Off memory I think Cunliffe or Labour did complain last time. Just makes you look sore.”

  5. red-blooded 5

    Appalling! He doesn’t even pretend to be impartial.

    I wonder if this give Jacinda a foil, though – a chance to show that wit and determination..? I guess we’ve got to hope so.

  6. mosa 6

    Two against one……yeah that’s fair ( sarc )

    • Robert Guyton 6.1

      Nice optics though, for Jacinda-against-two-blokes, I mean. It’s the women watching who will decide this election result. Good thing.

  7. Roy 7

    Jac’s totally got this. Hosko will have to box pretty clever to undermine her.

  8. NickS 8

    On the plus side, we get a good chance Arden will eat Hosking alive on TV, given how likely it is for Hosking to say something really misogynistic.

    • Robert Guyton 8.1

      It’s all good, Jacinda will play it relaxed and unflustered. Two powerful men on the set, and one woman? The woman has won already. Don’t rock the boat. If they put a woman in as mediator, the balance shifts in Bill’s favour. The important audience is female.

  9. Sanctuary 9

    Selecting Hoskings as moderator is more than a deliberate slap in the face for objective media – it is a clear act of political partisanship and arrogance from TVNZ. But TVNZ is an organisation that is not beyond the reach of political control. This action should provoke (in private) the explicit promise of retaliation against the powers that be at TVNZ. Perhaps when confronted with the possibility of a change of government, and the clearest possible promise of a lightening of their pay packets by way of wholesale sackings, the TVNZ board might slowly and, under the utmost protest of the subversion of the media, reluctantly surrender to the public storm and replace Hoskings

  10. Richard Christie 10

    These debates are a joke regardless.

    Superficial non informative point scoring exercises, basically who comes across best on camera, so the media can crow about it later. Perfect for gotcha jonalism.

  11. Sacha 11

    From the Stuff story:

    TVNZ head of current affairs John Gillespie declined an interview but in a statement defended the decision, saying TVNZ was providing a range of perspectives across its election team. He promised no politician would be getting an easy run during the debates.

    “Mike has skilfully and fairly moderated many Election debates for us over the years – this Election will be no different,” Gillespie said.

    There’s a name from the long lineup of editors, producers and managers across media with no sense of professional ethics. They all need moving on.

  12. Robert Guyton 12

    From Kiwiblog:
    “MCos

    Most people watching the debates will have decided beforehand who they are voting for, or at least a sizeable minority.
    The undecided will soon pick up if the moderator is being condescending towarded English’s opponent(s), as he is inclined to be when expressing an opinion at other times.
    I’d say Hosking will bend over backwards to appear neutral. Anything else will harm National.
    I would say Ardern couldn’t wish for a better scenario.”

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Call for New Zealanders to get on-board with rail safety
    With additional trains operating across the network, powered by the Government’s investment in rail, there is need for a renewed focus on rail safety, Transport Minister Michael Wood emphasised at the launch of Rail Safety Week 2022. “Over the last five years the Government has invested significantly to improve level ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 hours ago
  • Regional approach the focus at ASEAN and East Asia Summit talks
    The Foreign Minister has wrapped up a series of meetings with Indo-Pacific partners in Cambodia which reinforced the need for the region to work collectively to deal with security and economic challenges. Nanaia Mahuta travelled to Phnom Penh for a bilateral meeting between ASEAN foreign ministers and Aotearoa New Zealand, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    24 hours ago
  • The beat goes on as Government renews support for musicians
    Extension of Aotearoa Touring Programme supporting domestic musicians The Programme has supported more than 1,700 shows and over 250 artists New Zealand Music Commission estimates that around 200,000 Kiwis have been able to attend shows as a result of the programme The Government is hitting a high note, with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Minister of Defence to attend Guadalcanal Commemorations in the Solomon Islands
    Minister of Defence Peeni Henare will depart tomorrow for Solomon Islands to attend events commemorating the 80th anniversary of the Battle of Guadalcanal. While in Solomon Islands, Minister Henare will also meet with Solomon Islands Minister of National Security, Correctional Services and Police Anthony Veke to continue cooperation on security ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New programme to provide insights into regenerative dairy farming 
    The Government is partnering with Ngāi Tahu Farming Limited and Ngāi Tūāhuriri on a whole-farm scale study in North Canterbury to validate the science of regenerative farming, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced today.   The programme aims to scientifically evaluate the financial, social and environmental differences between regenerative and conventional practices. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • More women on public boards than ever before
    52.5% of people on public boards are women Greatest ever percentage of women Improved collection of ethnicity data “Women’s representation on public sector boards and committees is now 52.5 percent, the highest ever level. The facts prove that diverse boards bring a wider range of knowledge, expertise and skill. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Awards support Pacific women
    I am honoured to support the 2022 Women in Governance Awards, celebrating governance leaders, directors, change-makers, and rising stars in the community, said Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio. For the second consecutive year, MPP is proudly sponsoring the Pacific Governance Leader category, recognising Pacific women in governance and presented to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Govt investment into Whakatāne regeneration reaches new milestones
    Today Economic and Regional Development Minister Stuart Nash turned the sod for the new Whakatāne Commercial Boat Harbour, cut the ribbon for the revitalised Whakatāne Wharf, and inspected work underway to develop the old Whakatāne Army Hall into a visitor centre, all of which are part of the $36.8 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government determined to get a better deal for consumers
    New Zealanders are not getting a fair deal on some key residential building supplies and while the Government has already driven improvements in the sector, a Commerce Commission review finds that  changes are needed to make it more competitive. “New Zealand is facing the same global cost of living and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government exceeds Mana in Mahi target
    Mana in Mahi reaches a milestone surpassing 5,000 participants 75 per cent of participants who had been on a benefit for two or more years haven’t gone back onto a benefit 89 per cent who have a training pathway are working towards a qualification at NZQA level 3 or ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government opens new research and innovation hub
    The Government has invested $7.7 million in a research innovation hub which was officially opened today by Minister of Research, Science and Innovation Dr Ayesha Verrall. The new facility named Te Pā Harakeke Flexible Labs comprises 560 square metres of new laboratory space for research staff and is based at ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Unemployment remains low and wages rise despite volatile global environment
    Unemployment has remained near record lows thanks to the Government’s economic plan to support households and businesses through the challenging global environment, resulting in more people in work and wages rising. Stats NZ figures show the unemployment rate was 3.3 percent in the June quarter, with 96,000 people classed out ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • First ever climate adaptation plan lays foundations for resilient communities
    Action to address the risks identified in the 2020 climate change risk assessment, protecting lives, livelihoods, homes, businesses and infrastructure A joined up approach that will support community-based adaptation with national policies and legislation Providing all New Zealanders with information about local climate risks via a new online data ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • New mental health and addiction services making a difference for Māori
    Māori with mental health and addiction challenges have easier access to care thanks to twenty-nine Kaupapa Māori primary mental health and addiction services across Aotearoa, Associate Minister of Health Peeni Henare says. “Labour is the first government to take mental health seriously for all New Zealanders. We know that Māori ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Data and Statistics Bill Passes its Third Reading
    A Bill which updates New Zealand’s statistics legislation for the 21st century has passed its third and final reading today, Minister of Statistics David Clark said. The Data and Statistics Act replaces the Statistics Act, which has been in effect since 1975. “In the last few decades, national data and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Further moves to improve the lives of disabled people
    The Accessibility for New Zealanders Bill has passed its first reading in Parliament today, marking a significant milestone to improve the lives of disabled people. “The Bill aims to address accessibility barriers that prevent disabled people, tāngata whaikaha and their whānau, and others with accessibility needs from living independently,” said ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Speech to the China Business Summit
    Kia ora koutou, da jia hao It’s great to be back at this year’s China Business Summit. I would first like to acknowledge Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, former Prime Minister Helen Clark, His Excellency Ambassador Wang Xiaolong, and parliamentary colleagues both current and former the Right Honourable Winston Peters, the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Further changes to CCCFA Regulations will improve safe access to credit
    Narrowing the expenses considered by lenders Relaxing the assumptions that lenders were required to make about credit cards and buy-now pay-later schemes. Helping make debt refinancing or debt consolidation more accessible if appropriate for borrowers The Government is clarifying the Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance (CCCFA) Regulations, to ensure ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government prioritises firearm prohibition orders to reduce gun harm
    The Firearms Prohibition Order Legislation Bill will be passed through all remaining stages by the end of next week, Police Minister Chris Hipkins said. The Justice Select Committee has received public feedback and finalised its report more quickly than planned. It reported back to the House on Friday.  “The Bill will ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • National plan to protect kauri commences
    The Government has stepped up activity to protect kauri, with a National Pest Management Plan (NPMP) coming into effect today, Biosecurity Minister Damien O'Connor and Associate Environment Minister James Shaw said. “We have a duty to ensure this magnificent species endures for future generations and also for the health of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Support for Samoa’s Climate Change Plan and rebuild of Savalalo Market
     Prime Minister Ardern met with members of Samoa’s Cabinet in Apia, today, announcing the launch of a new climate change partnership and confirming support for the rebuild of the capital’s main market, on the occasion of the 60th Anniversary of the signing of the Treaty of Friendship between Aotearoa New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Reconnecting with ASEAN and Malaysia
    Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta departs for the Indo-Pacific region today for talks on security and economic issues at meetings of ASEAN and the East Asia Summit in Cambodia, and during bilateral engagements in Malaysia. “Engaging in person with our regional partners is a key part of our reconnecting strategy as ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Statement to the 2022 Review Conference for the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
    United Nations Headquarters, New York City  Thank you, Mr President. Ngā mihi ki a koutou. I extend my warm congratulations to you and assure you of the full cooperation of the New Zealand delegation. I will get right to it. In spite of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and the nuclear ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • 10,000 more permanent public homes added under the Labour Government
    A major milestone of 10,037 additional public homes has been achieved since Labour came into office, the Housing Minister Dr Megan Woods confirmed today. “It’s extremely satisfying and a testament to our commitment to providing a safety net for people who need public housing, that we have delivered these warm, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Sanctions on Russian armed forces and weapons manufacturers
    The Minister of Foreign Affairs Nanaia Mahuta has announced further sanctions on the armed forces and military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation. “President Putin and the Russian military are responsible for violating the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, which is a grave breach of fundamental international law,” Nanaia Mahuta ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Government plan to boost health workers
    Easing the process for overseas nurses and provision of up to $10,000 in financial support for international nurses for NZ registration costs. Provide for the costs of reregistration for New Zealand nurses who want to return to work. Covering international doctors’ salaries during their six-week clinical induction courses and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Today marks one year since Government’s Dawn Raids apology
    A new  future between Pacific Aotearoa and Ngāti Whātua Ōrākei is the essence of a Dawn Raids Apology anniversary event in Auckland this month, said Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio. One year ago, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern formally apologised to Pacific communities impacted by the Dawn Raids in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • PM Speech to China Business Summit
    Tēnā koutou katoa Tuia ngā waka, Tuia ngā wawata, Tuia ngā hou-kura Let us bind our connection, let us bind our vision, let us bind our shared aspiration for peace and prosperity. This year marks a significant milestone in the New Zealand – China relationship.   Fifty years ago – 1972 – ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Cook Islands Language Week will close generational gap
    It’s Cook Islands Language week and the Minister of Pacific Peoples, Aupito William Sio wants the community to focus on what it means to keep the language alive across the generations. “Our Cook Islands community in Aotearoa have decided to focus on the same theme as last years; ‘ Ātuitui’ia ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Cost of Living support payment to reach over 2 million New Zealanders
    From 1 August an estimated 2.1 million New Zealanders will be eligible to receive the first targeted Cost of Living Payment as part of the Government’s plan to help soften the impact of rising global inflationary pressures affecting New Zealanders, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says. The payments will see eligible ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand’s border fully open to visitors and students
    · New Zealand’s international border opens to all visitors, including from non-visa waiver countries, and international students from 11:59PM, 31 July 2022. · Cruise ships and recreational yachts able to arrive at New Zealand ports. This evening marks the final step in the Government’s reconnecting plan, with visitors from non-visa ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government sets out plan to eliminate HIV transmission in New Zealand
    New Action Plan to eliminate HIV transmission released for consultation today $18 million Budget 2022 boost Key measures to achieve elimination include increasing prevention and testing, improving access to care and treatment and addressing stigma The Government has today released its plan to eliminate the transmission of HIV in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government support lifts income for beneficiaries
    A report released today shows Government support has lifted incomes for Beneficiaries by 40 percent over and above inflation since 2018. “This is the first time this data set has been collected, and it clearly shows Government action is having an impact,” Carmel Sepuloni said. “This Government made a commitment ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Māori Housing: Urban development underway in Mt Wellington
    Thirty new warm, safe and affordable apartments to be delivered by Tauhara North No 2 Trust in Tāmaki Makaurau Delivered through Whai Kāinga Whai Oranga programme, jointly delivered by Te Puni Kōkiri and the Ministry of Housing and Urban Development Allocation of the apartments will be prioritised to support ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Phil Twyford to attend Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty meeting
    Disarmament and Arms Control Minister Phil Twyford will lead Aotearoa New Zealand’s delegation to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) Review Conference at the United Nations in New York next week. “Aotearoa New Zealand has a long history of advocating for a world free of nuclear weapons,” Phil Twyford said. “The NPT has ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Construction Sector Accord – launch of Transformation Plan 2022-2025
      I am delighted to join you today for the launch of the Construction Sector Accord Transformation Plan 2022-2025. I would like to acknowledge my colleagues – the other Accord Ministers, the Accord governance and sector leadership, the CEOs of Government agencies, and leaders from the construction sector. The construction ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Work underway to make Wairarapa roads safer
    Associate Minister of Transport Kieran McAnulty was joined this morning by the Mayors of Carterton and Masterton, local Iwi and members of the Wairarapa community to turn the first sod on a package of crucial safety improvements for State Highway 2 in Wairarapa. “The work to improve safety on this ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Next steps taken to deliver Milford Opportunities Project
    The board to take the Milford Opportunities Project (MOP) forward has been announced by Minister of Conservation Poto Williams today.  “The Milford Opportunities Project is a once in a generation chance to reshape the gateway to Milford Sound Piopiotahi and redesign our transport infrastructure to benefit locals, visitors, and our ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Construction Sector Transformation Plan to accelerate change in industry
    A new three year plan to transform the construction industry into a high-performing sector with increased productivity, diversity and innovation has been unveiled by the Minister for Building and Construction Dr Megan Woods and Accord Steering group this morning. As lead minister for the Construction Sector Accord, Dr Woods told ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • More counsellors to boost mental health workforce
    For the first time counsellors will be able to become accredited to work in publicly funded clinical roles to support the mental wellbeing of New Zealanders. The Government and the board of the New Zealand Association of Counsellors (NZAC) have developed a new opt-in accreditation pathway so NZCA members can ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago