web analytics

Election debates to be 2 vs. 1

Written By: - Date published: 11:49 am, August 10th, 2017 - 33 comments
Categories: election 2017, jacinda ardern - Tags: , , ,

33 comments on “Election debates to be 2 vs. 1 ”

  1. Union city greens 1

    That’s a bull shit call. This decision has to be challenged and an impartial moderator demanded.

    • Union city greens 1.1

      Perhaps labour should get a deal stitched up with TV3 at competing time slots for one on one and phone in sessions and totally boycott tvnz.
      Let Hoskins debate his right testicle off and we’ll compare ratings to gauge the winner.

  2. Johan 2

    Certainly not that biased, self-absorbed clown???

  3. Carolyn_nth 3

    It doesn’t matter how close to impartial Hosking comes in hosting the debate. Hosking’s identity is strongly associated with right wing nastiness. The sight of his face on TV is always a visual reminder of this.

    By appointing him as host, TVNZ tacitly reinforces their support of Hosking’s vicious, anti-social, elitist rants.

  4. Robert Guyton 4

    Jacinda will brush this off as a trifle. The inappropriateness of the host’s manner will galvanise the viewing audience and Jacinda’s support will soar. We shouldn’t get our knickers in a twist over this; we did last time and he wasn’t dropped. Fight where it matters.

    • OncewasTim 4.1

      I hope she wears a jacket with cuff buttons she can pull constantly

      • Cemetery Jones 4.1.1

        It’s the French cuffed shirt you need! Gotta have those cufflinks to toy with!

      • Robert Guyton 4.1.2

        Oh, that’s elegant, OncewasTim.
        She could even pull her own ponytail! That’d bring the House down 🙂

    • AB 4.2

      That’s the courageous thing to do.
      Myself – If I was in the LP I’d get someone to have a quiet word with TVNZ CEO and tell him that Labour have a policy in the bottom drawer about restructuring TVNZ – selling TV2 and making TV1 completely non-commercial and accompanied by a total cleanout of all senior staff. “Cultural renewal” in fact. I’d say that lots of people were thinking that it was about time to look in the bottom drawer in case there was anything important lurking in there that had been overlooked for a while.
      Oh – and much as I love the Greens, this is why we need Labour to be a 40% party, so the right people are scared of it.

      • WILD KATIPO 4.2.1

        That’s the spirit !

        Hit these media bums the only way they understand – in their pockets !!!

        • the pigman 4.2.1.1

          That’s the spirit!

          Threaten a state broadcaster with privatisation and redundancies! Sure to evoke sympathy.

          Then we can get on with the Purge we’ve all been waiting for. Ready the gulags, comrades, the time of the authoritarian fut nucks will soon return!

          • AB 4.2.1.1.1

            Not a threat pigman, just a ‘heads up’ on future policy direction. Not authoritarian either – in fact quite consultative in a way. And it’s good policy anyway if TVNZ is to truly discharge its responsibilities as the state broadcaster. The discussion would merely be around where it sits on the priority list – there is after all so much of National’s sh*t to clean up it doesn’t necessarily have to be the first thing that gets done..

          • WILD KATIPO 4.2.1.1.2

            That’s the spirit , pigman ! ,… yes , a few well placed words about certain extremists losing their jobs and being replaced with those with more moderate views… and I concede, it could all be done without privatizing anything.

            As for gulags and authoritarian fut nucks ,…

            Been to WINZ lately ?

            • the pigman 4.2.1.1.2.1

              Now I know it feels good to feel the political tide coming in/lapping at your toes but…

              Might be a bit early to start dropping dark hints (let’s say they’re not threats) to media executives, don’t you think?

              Especially since those media executives’ organisations have basically been unrelentingly hostile to Labour since Helen Clark left the leadership, and that pall of hostility has only started to clear since the MSM finally now have their preferred candidate leading the NZLP? I mean, look at how Gower fawns…

              As for WINZ offices, I can well imagine. Watching “I, Daniel Blake” was enough dehumanisation for me…

              • Robert Guyton

                I agree with the pigman – threats, subtle or otherwise, show support for the “threats way” – we don’t do that, so don’t do that! I reckon.

                • Stuart Munro

                  When it comes to Mediaworks losing its sweetheart funding I imagine any responsible auditor would demand it. That should be a promise, not a threat.

          • philj 4.2.1.1.3

            Pigman. You obviously missed it. We already have had the purge for quite a while. it’s called Mike.

    • @Robert Guyton

      You know, … there’s a lot of good sense in what you are saying , matey… after all … we are talking ” BUT , … YOU !!!… YOU !!! ” Jacinda Adern here… there’s no doubt Adern has a steel backbone when it comes to media gits.

      I don’t think Hosking would dare take on Adern in a full frontal assault… he will be advised carefully on what tack to take… of that we can be sure.

      But the mere fact that we can almost guarantee that he will be advised demonstrates bias.

    • mary_a 4.4

      @ Robert Guyton (4) … Jacinda will be able to handle herself well in the debates. She is intelligent and articulate. Hosking is anything but.

      As Jacinda has said, she will be concentrating on her opponent, not the moderator.

    • Robert Guyton 4.5

      Yeah, but…even Farrar says:
      “Arden is showing her smarts by not complaining. Off memory I think Cunliffe or Labour did complain last time. Just makes you look sore.”

  5. red-blooded 5

    Appalling! He doesn’t even pretend to be impartial.

    I wonder if this give Jacinda a foil, though – a chance to show that wit and determination..? I guess we’ve got to hope so.

  6. mosa 6

    Two against one……yeah that’s fair ( sarc )

    • Robert Guyton 6.1

      Nice optics though, for Jacinda-against-two-blokes, I mean. It’s the women watching who will decide this election result. Good thing.

  7. Roy 7

    Jac’s totally got this. Hosko will have to box pretty clever to undermine her.

  8. NickS 8

    On the plus side, we get a good chance Arden will eat Hosking alive on TV, given how likely it is for Hosking to say something really misogynistic.

    • Robert Guyton 8.1

      It’s all good, Jacinda will play it relaxed and unflustered. Two powerful men on the set, and one woman? The woman has won already. Don’t rock the boat. If they put a woman in as mediator, the balance shifts in Bill’s favour. The important audience is female.

  9. Sanctuary 9

    Selecting Hoskings as moderator is more than a deliberate slap in the face for objective media – it is a clear act of political partisanship and arrogance from TVNZ. But TVNZ is an organisation that is not beyond the reach of political control. This action should provoke (in private) the explicit promise of retaliation against the powers that be at TVNZ. Perhaps when confronted with the possibility of a change of government, and the clearest possible promise of a lightening of their pay packets by way of wholesale sackings, the TVNZ board might slowly and, under the utmost protest of the subversion of the media, reluctantly surrender to the public storm and replace Hoskings

  10. Richard Christie 10

    These debates are a joke regardless.

    Superficial non informative point scoring exercises, basically who comes across best on camera, so the media can crow about it later. Perfect for gotcha jonalism.

  11. Sacha 11

    From the Stuff story:

    TVNZ head of current affairs John Gillespie declined an interview but in a statement defended the decision, saying TVNZ was providing a range of perspectives across its election team. He promised no politician would be getting an easy run during the debates.

    “Mike has skilfully and fairly moderated many Election debates for us over the years – this Election will be no different,” Gillespie said.

    There’s a name from the long lineup of editors, producers and managers across media with no sense of professional ethics. They all need moving on.

  12. Robert Guyton 12

    From Kiwiblog:
    “MCos

    Most people watching the debates will have decided beforehand who they are voting for, or at least a sizeable minority.
    The undecided will soon pick up if the moderator is being condescending towarded English’s opponent(s), as he is inclined to be when expressing an opinion at other times.
    I’d say Hosking will bend over backwards to appear neutral. Anything else will harm National.
    I would say Ardern couldn’t wish for a better scenario.”

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Quarantine-free travel with Australia to remain suspended for a further 8 weeks
    Suspension to be reviewed again mid to late November Decision brought forward to enable access from Australia to first tranche of around 3000 rooms in MIQ Air New Zealand working at pace to put on more flights from Australia from October    The suspension of quarantine-free travel (QFT) with Australia has ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Extra support for Ethnic Communities to share vaccination information
    Extra support is being made available to Ethnic Communities to help them share COVID-19 vaccination information within their communities, Minister for Diversity, Inclusion and Ethnic Communities Priyanca Radhakrishnan said. “We know we need to get every eligible person in New Zealand vaccinated. A fund being launched today will allow for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • School holidays remain unchanged for Auckland region
    School holidays in Auckland will continue to be held at the same time as the rest of the country, starting from Saturday, 2 October, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “I’ve carefully considered advice on the implications of shifting the dates and concluded that on balance, maintaining the status quo ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Government continues crackdown on gangs and organised crime
    Operation Tauwhiro extended until March 2022 Since it was launched in February, Operation Tauwhiro has resulted in:   987 firearms seized $4.99 million in cash seized 865 people charged with a firearms-related offence Gangs and organised crime groups will continue to be relentlessly targeted with the extension of Police’s successful ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Speech to Body Positive 'HIV Treatments Update Seminar 2021'
    E ngā mana E ngā reo E ngā iwi Tēnā koutou katoa Ka huri ki ngā mana whenua o te rohe nei. Tēnā koutou. He mihi hoki ki a tatou kua tau mai nei I raro I te kaupapa o te rā. Nō reira tēnā koutou katoa Acknowledgements It’s a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • NZ economy’s strong momentum will support rebound from Delta outbreak; COVID fund replenished
    The economy showed strong momentum in the period leading up to the recent Delta COVID-19 outbreak, which bodes well for a solid economic rebound, Grant Robertson said. GDP rose 2.8 percent in the June quarter, following on from a 1.4 percent increase in the previous March quarter. This was a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Projects create benefits into the future
    Making a well-known lake swimmable and helping to halt the decline of the endangered hoiho/yellow-eyed penguins are among a suite of new projects being supported by the Government’s Jobs for Nature programme across the southern South Island, Conservation Minister Kiri Allan says. “It’s no secret that many of our most ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Opening statement for Whāriki Indigenous Small Business Roundtable
      Kei ngā tōpito e wha o te āo e rere ana te mihi maioha ki a koutou nō tawhiti, nō tata mai e tāpiri ana ki tēnei taumata kōrero mo te ao hokohoko arā mā ngā pākihi mo ngā iwi taketake Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa – Pai Mārire.  ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New members appointed to Kāpuia
    The Government is adding four additional members to Kāpuia, the Ministerial Advisory Group on the Government’s Response to the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the terrorist attack on Christchurch mosques. “I’m looking forward to having Pamela MacNeill, Huia Bramley, Melani Anae and Katherine Dedo  join Kāpuia and contribute to this group’s ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Timeline confirmed for Emissions Reductions Plan
    Cabinet has agreed to begin consulting on the Emissions Reduction Plan in early October and require that the final plan be released by the end of May next year in line with the 2022 Budget, the Minister of Climate Change, James Shaw confirmed today. “Cabinet’s decision allows organisations and communities ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Pay parity pathway for early learning teachers confirmed
    Pay parity conditions and higher funding rates for education and care services will come into force on 1 January, 2022, Minister of Education Chris Hipkins confirmed today. The Government signalled this work in Budget 2021. “From 1 January, 2022, centres opting into the scheme will receive government funding and be ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Speech to the New Zealand Nurses Organisation Conference 2021
    Kia Ora tatau katoa.   Ka tuku mihi ki nga nēhi, He pou Hauora o Aotearoa, E ora ai tatou.   Whakatau mai  I runga i te kaupapa o te ra Te NZNO conference.   Tena koutou tena koutou Tena tatou katoa   Good morning, and thank you inviting me ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government investment in farmer-led catchment groups sweeps past 150 mark
    171 catchment groups have now been invested in by the Government 31 catchment groups in the Lower North Island are receiving new support More than 5,000 farmers are focussed on restoring freshwater within a generation through involvement in catchment groups  Government investment in on-the-ground efforts by farmers to improve land ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Fight to protect kauri on track
    The Government is pitching in to help vital work to protect nationally significant kauri forests in Auckland, Minister of Conservation Kiri Allan says. “Ensuring the survival of these iconic trees for future generations means doing everything we can to prevent the potential spread of kauri dieback disease,” Kiri Allan said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Joint statement of Mr Bernard Monk; Hon Andrew Little, Minister Responsible for Pike River Re-entry,...
    [Note: The Parties have agreed on terms to fully and finally settle the proceeding and will jointly issue the below statement.] At the heart of this litigation are the lives of the 29 men tragically lost at the Pike River mine on 19 November 2010 and to whom we pay ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • More financial support for businesses
    Today’s decision to keep Auckland in a higher COVID Alert Level triggers a third round of the Wage Subsidy Scheme which will open for applications at 9am this Friday. “The revenue test period for this payment will be the 14th to the 27th of September. A reminder that this is ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Aotearoa New Zealand provides further humanitarian support for Afghanistan
    Aotearoa New Zealand is providing a further $3 million in humanitarian assistance in Afghanistan, Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta announced today.  “There is significant humanitarian need in Afghanistan, with the crisis disproportionately affecting women and girls,” said Nanaia Mahuta. The UN has estimated that 80% of the quarter of a million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Innovative te reo prediction tool announced in Te Wiki o Te Reo Māori
    A new Māori language prediction tool will play a key role in tracking our te reo Māori revitalisation efforts, Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson announced today. He Ara Poutama mō te reo Māori (He Ara Poutama) can forecast the number of conversational and fluent speakers of te reo Māori ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Further Government support for people to access food and essential items
    The Government is responding to need for support in Auckland and has committed a further $10 million to help people access ongoing food and other essential items, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced today. This latest tranche is targeted at the Auckland region, helping providers and organisations to distribute ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Half a million Pfizer vaccines from Denmark
    The Government has secured an extra half a million doses of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines from Denmark that will start arriving in New Zealand within days, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. “This is the second and larger agreement the Government has entered into to purchase additional vaccines to meet the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Inland Revenue providing essential COVID support for businesses
    Inland Revenue is seeing increased demand for Resurgence Support Payments and other assistance schemes that it administers, but is processing applications quickly, Revenue Minister David Parker said today. David Parker said the Resurgence Support Payment, the Small Business Cashflow (loan) Scheme and the Wage Subsidy are available at the same ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand marks 20th anniversary of 9/11 attacks
    New Zealand is expressing unity with all victims, families and loved ones affected by the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks, and all terrorist attacks around the world since, including in New Zealand. “Saturday marks twenty years since the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the United States, which killed nearly 3,000 people ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Speech to SPREP Environment Ministers
    Talofa Honourable Ulu of Tokelau Faipule Kelihiano Kalolo Tēnā koutou katoa and warm Pacific greetings from Aotearoa to your excellencies, ladies and gentlemen. The new science released by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change on 8 August paints an alarming picture of the projected impacts of climate change on the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Additional Resurgence Support Payments to support business
    Businesses affected by higher Alert Levels will be able to apply for further Resurgence Support Payments (RSP). “The Government’s RSP was initially intended as a one-off payment to help businesses with their fixed costs, such as rent. Ministers have agreed to provide additional payments to recognise the effects of an ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • More Dawn Raids scholarships announced
    Details of the ‘Manaaki New Zealand Short Term Training Scholarships’, a goodwill gesture that follows the Government’s apology for the Dawn Raids of the 1970s, were released today by Pacific Peoples Minister Aupito William Sio. “These scholarships that are targeted to the Pacific will support the kaupapa of the Dawn Raids’ ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • One-way quarantine-free travel for RSE workers starting in October
      One-way quarantine-free travel for Recognised Seasonal Employer (RSE) workers from Samoa, Tonga and Vanuatu starts in October New requirement for RSE workers to have received their first vaccination pre-departure, undertake Day 0 and Day 5 tests, and complete a self-isolation period of seven days, pending a negative Day 5 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt boosts Pacific suicide prevention support
    Applications have opened for the Pacific Suicide Prevention Community Fund as the Government acts to boost support amid the COVID delta outbreak. “We know strong and connected families and communities are the most important protective factor against suicide and this $900,000 fund will help to support this work,” Health Minister ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt parks the expiry of licenses, WoFs and regos
    As a result of the Delta outbreak, driver licences, Warrants of Fitness (WoFs), Certificates of Fitness (CoFs), vehicle licences (‘regos’) and licence endorsements that expired on or after 21 July 2021 will be valid until 30 November 2021, Transport Minister Michael Wood has announced today. “While this extension won’t officially ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • COVID-19 community fund to provide support for vulnerable women and girls
    Minister for Women Jan Tinetti today announced a $2 million community fund that will provide support for women and girls adversely affected by COVID-19. “We know that women, particularly those who are already vulnerable, are disproportionally affected by the kind of economic disruption caused by COVID-19,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Next phase of support for Fiji’s COVID-19 response announced
    A further NZ$12 million of support for Fiji’s COVID-19 response has been announced by Foreign Minister Hon Nanaia Mahuta today. The package builds on previous tranches of assistance Aotearoa New Zealand has provided to Fiji, totalling over NZ$50 million. “Fiji remains in a very challenging position in their response to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Robotic asparagus harvester aimed at addressing industry challenges
    The Government is backing a $5 million project to develop a commercial-scale autonomous robotic asparagus harvester, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced today. The Sustainable Food and Fibre Futures fund (SFF Futures) is contributing $2.6 million to the project. Project partner Robotics Plus Limited (RPL) will build on a prototype asparagus ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Additional Pfizer vaccines to arrive tomorrow
    More than a quarter of a million additional doses of the Pfizer vaccine are on their way from Spain to New Zealand, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. The additional doses will arrive in Auckland on Friday morning to help meet the current surge in demand for vaccination. “It’s been ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Young people to have their voices heard in Youth Parliament 2022
    The dates and details for Youth Parliament 2022 have been announced today by Minister for Youth Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. Youth Parliament is an opportunity for 141 young people from across Aotearoa New Zealand to experience the political process and learn how government works. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Boosting support for tertiary students affected by COVID-19
    Students facing a hard time as a result of COVID-19 restrictions will continue to be supported,” Education Minister Chris Hipkins confirmed today. The Government is putting a further $20 million into the Hardship Fund for Learners, which will help around 15,000 students to stay connected to their studies and learning. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • COVID-19: Immediate relief available for Māori and iwi organisations
    The Government has reprioritised up to $5 million to provide immediate relief to vulnerable whānau Māori and communities during the current COVID-19 outbreak Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson announced today. The COVID-19 2021 Whānau Recovery Fund will support community-driven, local responses to gaps in access and provision of critical ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New beef genetics programme to deliver cows with smaller environmental hoof-print
    The Government is backing a genetics programme to lower the beef sector’s greenhouse gas emissions by delivering cows with a smaller environmental hoof-print, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced today. Informing New Zealand Beef is a seven-year partnership with Beef + Lamb New Zealand that is expected to result in more ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Appointments to the New Zealand Qualifications Authority
    Education Minister Chris Hipkins today announced new appointments to the board of the New Zealand Qualifications Authority (NZQA). Former Associate Minister of Education, Hon Tracey Martin, has been appointed as the new Chair for NZQA, replacing the outgoing Acting and Deputy Chair Professor Neil Quigley after an 11-year tenure on ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Govt supports residential house building by allowing manufacture of building supplies
    The Government has agreed to allow some building product manufacturing to take place in Auckland during Covid lockdown to support continued residential construction activity across New Zealand. “There are supply chain issues that arise from Alert Level 4 as building products that are manufactured domestically are mostly manufactured in Auckland. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Government invests in scientific research to boost economy, address climate change and enhance wellb...
    Research, Science and Innovation Minister Hon Dr Megan Woods has today announced the recipients of this year’s Endeavour Fund to help tackle the big issues that New Zealanders care about, like boosting economic performance, climate change, transport infrastructure and wellbeing. In total, 69 new scientific research projects were awarded over ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Transport to drive economic recovery
    The Government is investing a record amount in transport services and infrastructure to get New Zealand moving, reduce emissions and support the economic recovery, Transport Minister Michael Wood announced today. The 2021-24 National Land Transport Programme (NLTP) was released today which outlines the planned investments Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago