web analytics

English: do what we need to do to win

Written By: - Date published: 3:17 pm, May 8th, 2010 - 23 comments
Categories: bill english, election 2011, maori party, national - Tags: , ,

An informative quote from Bill English trying to assuage National Party member who are concerned that the Party is betraying its principles (ha!) and giving too much to the Maori Party:

“On any given day over the next period, as you start thinking about the next election, the Government is going to be involved with some decisions that you don’t like, some decisions you may disagree with. I want to reassure you about two things. The first is that all those decisions are being made in the context of the longer-term view, reaching our objectives over the next four or five years, not the next four or five days, and secondly that in my experience the Parliamentary team have very sound instincts about most of these issues.”

Now, you know that in my opinion the DRIP, Whanau Ora (with its budget that’s only the same as two cycleways), and the Foreshore and Seabed are hollow gestures – all symbol, no signified. But that’s not the way a lot of National voters see it. They see selling out to the ‘Maoris’.

English’s message to them is that buttering up the Maori Party is crucial to winning a second term. National has to do things it otherwise wouldn’t because the next election is likely to produce an outcome that will mean National can’t govern with the Maori Party. That’s what English means by “all those decisions are being made in the context of the longer-term view, reaching our objectives over the next four or five years” – winning a second term trumps principle. It’s about power for its own sake.

This cynical, unprincipled politics is typical of the Key/English leadership. Remember what English said before the last election about National’s campaign strategy:

“there’s nothing that beats winning in politics, despite all our highly principled statements… do what you need to do to win”

It seems they’re governing the same way they campaigned.

23 comments on “English: do what we need to do to win ”

  1. Clipbox 1

    The first is that all those decisions are being made in the context of the longer-term view, reaching our objectives over the next four or five years, not the next four or five days…

    Wow, four to five years is long term?

  2. Peter Johns 2

    Pot, kettle, black Marty. Bit like student loans, do what you need to stay in power. Look at the cost of this bribe now and escalating. Another fiscal present from Cullen.

    • Clipbox 2.1

      You don’t see National cancelling it do you? All they want to do is charge an extra $50 for everyone with a loan after they graduate which will pocket a pathetic $15 million.

      • ianmac 2.1.1

        But it is a paper fee which just adds to the debt. Dopey.
        But I wonder if once established, they can add significantly to the size of the extras at a later date. Thin end and all that.

    • Lanthanide 2.2

      Imagine what the cost would’ve been with even more of our tertiary educated people going overseas to escape their debt.

      I’ve stayed in NZ, and thankfully have never paid interest on my loan. But if I’d had to pay interest when I graduated, I would’ve considered going to Aus. I certainly would’ve changed other things in my life.

    • Marty G 2.3

      tertiary education should be free. Must be free if we want to have an educated workforce.

    • Draco T Bastard 2.4

      Education is what takes a community forward. Capitalism is what holds it back and costs far too much.

  3. Rex Widerstrom 3

    The kind of deep seated cycnicism you imply?

    Or a salve to the extremists who want to see things go even further?

    A bit of both?

    Or just politics as usual… pretty much the thinking to be expected, sadly, from any political party (c.f. Rudd Labor and it’s backdown on an ETS, “the greatest moral challenge of our time” etc etc).

    All of the above, I’d say.

  4. Draco T Bastard 4

    It’s pretty much Blinglish admitting the secret agenda. The attitude is that they can coax the majority people into voting against their best interests so that the few can have more if they do it slowly enough.

  5. Santi 5

    English and Key are cunning bastards. Pity Goff is even more pathetic (and useless).

  6. big bruv 6

    Yep, they must secure a second term, the question is, how do they do it?

    I have the answer, they could rush out and buy a train set that NOBODY else wanted, the price they pay for it could be four time what it is estimated to be worth.

    Oh…hang on…..

    • r0b 6.1

      BB – I heard it was 16 times its estimated worth. Quick – go tell them all at the sewer…

    • Jenny 6.2

      Come on BB stop holding out on us. What’s the name of the insurance company you say that I can go to insure against redundancy.

      I really would like to know.

      Surely you weren’t lying about that, were you?

      I mean if you were lying about that, doesn’t this discredit all the other extraordinary right wing claims you make?

      Oh and the thing about the trains, they were only worth nothing because they had been run into the ground by their private owners, who closed all the workshops, laid off all the maintenance workers and generally asset stripped it.

      Unfortunately for us, the public, we had to bail the railways out, because believe it or not it is a vital party of any modern state’s infrastructure, especially if you have an export based economy that depends on moving large amounts of bulk freight.

      After your guys broke it, we had to fix it.

      Another case of privatising the profits and socialising the losses.

      So much for the free market, millionaire corporations with their hands in the public pocket ripping us off, by destroying strategic assets for private gain.

      • Lanthanide 6.2.1

        Jenny, I posted this elsewhere but you may not see it.

        I have redundancy protection insurance through ANZ and whoever it is that underwrites their insurance now. Such insurance does exist.

  7. Rharn 7

    Long term is that English and Key are setting up divisions between Maori and European Kiwi’s that will last long after English and Key have gone to their graves. All this for the sake of maintaining power for the benefit of those few who actually ‘benefit’ with Nact’s policies.

    • Draco T Bastard 7.1

      Exactly

      They’re setting more mistrust in our society between people so that they and their rich mates can rob us blind while we’re being distracted by “them”. The Maori Party isn’t helping.

      • Tigger 7.1.1

        Let’s not limit this to just Maori/Non-Maori (some of us aren’t Maori and aren’t ‘European’). They’re setting lots of different classes of people against each other – divide and conquer works in the short term but in the long term you end up creating wars.

  8. Gooner 8

    You don’t seriously believe English do you?

    Key said the same things in his state of the nation speech and we’ve seen very little of any step-change or transformation.

    • Draco T Bastard 8.1

      /facepalm

      Yeah, they’re taking it slowly in the hopes that everyone else won’t see their real agenda which is exactly what Blinglish said.

      • ianmac 8.1.1

        Yes. It sort of fits. Play the lulling now and then make some promises during the next election, leading to a big time right wing agenda. Suffer looking a bit foolish now and line up the ducks for post 2011. They look smug.

  9. SHG 9

    National has to do things it otherwise wouldn’t

    Oh noes, don’t tell me a political party is having to water down its more extremist positions to accommodate a coalition partner! Why didn’t someone warn us that this would happen with MMP?

    No, wait. That’s the way MMP is designed to work. Silly me.

  10. Zaphod Beeblebrox 10

    When you have no strong beliefs about anything, I guess its easy to use the means justifies the ends argument. Looks like they have found a kindred spirit in the Maori Party leadership who obviously believe the same thing. “Whatever it takes’ could easily be the motto of both coalition partners.

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Celebrating the Entry Into Force of the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons
    [Opening comments, welcome and thank you to Auckland University etc] It is a great pleasure to be here this afternoon to celebrate such an historic occasion - the entry into force of the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons. This is a moment many feared would never come, but ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Supporting disabled people to stay connected
    The Government is providing $3 million in one-off seed funding to help disabled people around New Zealand stay connected and access support in their communities, Minister for Disability Issues, Carmel Sepuloni announced today. The funding will allow disability service providers to develop digital and community-based solutions over the next two ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Voluntary saliva testing offered to quarantine workers from Monday
    Border workers in quarantine facilities will be offered voluntary daily COVID-19 saliva tests in addition to their regular weekly testing, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. This additional option will be rolled out at the Jet Park Quarantine facility in Auckland starting on Monday 25 January, and then to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Next steps in firearms buy-back
    The next steps in the Government’s ambitious firearms reform programme to include a three-month buy-back have been announced by Police Minister Poto Williams today.  “The last buy-back and amnesty was unprecedented for New Zealand and was successful in collecting 60,297 firearms, modifying a further 5,630 firearms, and collecting 299,837 prohibited ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Jobs for Nature projects target iconic ecosystems
    Upscaling work already underway to restore two iconic ecosystems will deliver jobs and a lasting legacy, Conservation Minister Kiri Allan says.  “The Jobs for Nature programme provides $1.25 billion over four years to offer employment opportunities for people whose livelihoods have been impacted by the COVID-19 recession. “Two new projects ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • New Public Housing Plan announced
    The Government has released its Public Housing Plan 2021-2024 which outlines the intention of where 8,000 additional public and transitional housing places announced in Budget 2020, will go. “The Government is committed to continuing its public house build programme at pace and scale. The extra 8,000 homes – 6000 public ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Prime Minister congratulates President Joe Biden on his inauguration
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has congratulated President Joe Biden on his inauguration as the 46th President of the United States of America. “I look forward to building a close relationship with President Biden and working with him on issues that matter to both our countries,” Jacinda Ardern said. “New Zealand ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Jobs for Nature funding will create training and employment opportunities
    A major investment to tackle wilding pines in Mt Richmond will create jobs and help protect the area’s unique ecosystems, Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor says. The Mt Richmond Forest Park has unique ecosystems developed on mineral-rich geology, including taonga plant species found nowhere else in the country. “These special plant ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Pre-departure testing extended to all passengers to New Zealand
    To further protect New Zealand from COVID-19, the Government is extending pre-departure testing to all passengers to New Zealand except from Australia, Antarctica and most Pacific Islands, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “The change will come into force for all flights arriving in New Zealand after 11:59pm (NZT) on Monday ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Bay Cadets learn skills to protect environment
    Bay Conservation Cadets launched with first intake Supported with $3.5 million grant Part of $1.245b Jobs for Nature programme to accelerate recover from Covid Cadets will learn skills to protect and enhance environment Environment Minister David Parker today welcomed the first intake of cadets at the launch of the Bay ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Cook Islanders to resume travel to New Zealand
    The Prime Minister of New Zealand Jacinda Ardern and the Prime Minister of the Cook Islands Mark Brown have announced passengers from the Cook Islands can resume quarantine-free travel into New Zealand from 21 January, enabling access to essential services such as health. “Following confirmation of the Cook Islands’ COVID ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Supporting communities and landowners to grow employment opportunities
    Jobs for Nature funding is being made available to conservation groups and landowners to employ staff and contractors in a move aimed at boosting local biodiversity-focused projects, Conservation Minister Kiritapu Allan has announced. It is estimated some 400-plus jobs will be created with employment opportunities in ecology, restoration, trapping, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Border exception for some returning international tertiary students
    The Government has approved an exception class for 1000 international tertiary students, degree level and above, who began their study in New Zealand but were caught offshore when border restrictions began. The exception will allow students to return to New Zealand in stages from April 2021. “Our top priority continues ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Tiwai deal gives time for managed transition
    Today’s deal between Meridian and Rio Tinto for the Tiwai smelter to remain open another four years provides time for a managed transition for Southland. “The deal provides welcome certainty to the Southland community by protecting jobs and incomes as the region plans for the future. The Government is committed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New member for APEC Business Advisory Council
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has appointed Anna Curzon to the APEC Business Advisory Council (ABAC). The leader of each APEC economy appoints three private sector representatives to ABAC. ABAC provides advice to leaders annually on business priorities. “ABAC helps ensure that APEC’s work programme is informed by business community perspectives ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Govt’s careful economic management recognised
    The Government’s prudent fiscal management and strong policy programme in the face of the COVID-19 global pandemic have been acknowledged by the credit rating agency Fitch. Fitch has today affirmed New Zealand’s local currency rating at AA+ with a stable outlook and foreign currency rating at AA with a positive ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Additional actions to keep COVID-19 out of NZ
    The Government is putting in place a suite of additional actions to protect New Zealand from COVID-19, including new emerging variants, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “Given the high rates of infection in many countries and evidence of the global spread of more transmissible variants, it’s clear that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • 19 projects will clean up and protect waterways
    $36 million of Government funding alongside councils and others for 19 projects Investment will clean up and protect waterways and create local jobs Boots on the ground expected in Q2 of 2021 Funding part of the Jobs for Nature policy package A package of 19 projects will help clean up ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand Government acknowledges 175th anniversary of Battle of Ruapekapeka
    The commemoration of the 175th anniversary of the Battle of Ruapekapeka represents an opportunity for all New Zealanders to reflect on the role these conflicts have had in creating our modern nation, says Associate Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Kiri Allan. “The Battle at Te Ruapekapeka Pā, which took ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago