Focusing on the issues that matter?

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Everyone’s favourite National Party blogger Cam Slater has posted a sneaky candid shot of Metiria Turei in which he mocks her for gasp wearing a hat. (Donotlink)

This kind of creepy shit isn’t unusual for him but it raises a couple of questions.

If it wasn’t taken by an MP did the speaker allow it or is it in breach of standing orders?

If it was an MP then what are National’s MPs doing taking secret camera shots of opposition MPs and then sending them to Cam Slater?

Is this kind of weird stalking what John Key’s talking about when he says his caucus is “focused on the issues that matter”?

And what the fuck is National’s problem with what Metiria Turei wears?

120 comments on “Focusing on the issues that matter?”

  1. Anne 1

    Read the comments. Not exactly Einsteins over there are they.

    My pick is, she had the flu and managed to stagger to the House because her colleagues were either attending functions or on the campaign trail. Cunliffe fought the flu for two weeks before finally giving in and going to bed. I suspect his unfortunate faux-pas at the Women’s Refuge conference (at least how he phrased it) was a consequence of said flu. He didn’t look his normal self.

    The photo was taken from the National side of the debating chamber at the back near the main exit/entrance.

    • distribed 1.1

      Why is this personality attacking still going on in Parliament?

      I have never seen Metiria mock anyone else.

      So why are these malicious attacks on parliamentary members still going on when they dont contribute to the benefit of their master, (that being us the taxpayer)

      There are to many examples of dead wood policy amongst particularly National ranks and best we move these vicious individuals into early retirement as fast as possible.

  2. Stuart Munro 2

    National struggles to gain any traction against the Greens – they simply don’t have the intellectual firepower.

    This was grasping at straws even for Slater.

    • David H 2.1

      Looks like they will try anything to stop the bad press.

    • Chooky 2.2

      +100 “National struggles to gain any traction against the Greens – they simply don’t have the intellectual firepower”

  3. felix 3

    What is their complaint exactly? I read Cameron’s (probably Jason’s) post and all it said was she looks like a hobo (??).

    Then I read the comments and they all seemed to be struggling a bit too.

    Are hats not allowed in the house or something?

  4. mickysavage 4

    Creepy. Using the Parliamentary seating plan I would hazard a guess and say it was Jonathan Coleman but it is the creepy sort of thing that Jami Lee Ross would do.

    Good to see Slater concentrate on the things that matter.

    He is such a Ned.

    • The Al1en 4.1

      Like cluedo, it’s Collins on the sly when she got up to go for a piss, using the ipad (it looks like she’s fiddling with in Blue’s vid posted below).

      Data from the timestamp, it’s definitely from the area where coleman sits. A sneaky shot on the walk out I reckon.

  5. Mingoi 5

    By that angle, it looks exactly where Judith Collins sits… someone else COULD have moved seats to get a great angle. Or Judith simply has had another go at Metiria (she has form) and sent it to her buddy…

  6. Populuxe1 6

    So from this I assume the posters of the Standard will cease all mockery, satire, and request for picture captions as we appear to have been raised to a whole new level of ethical behaviour?

    • Anne 6.1

      Nope.

    • This isn’t satire or a caption competition, and mocking someone when they’re doing a patently fake photo op is very differently to this kind of nasty, personal, “lol you look dumb” attack.

      This year the Speaker’s already gone to the privileges committee to look at MPs’ use of Twitter in the House, and whether it’s appropriate. I can’t see him taking a positive view of an MP photographing another in order to leak their picture to a blog for the purpose of a cheap attack.

      • Clemgeopin 6.2.1

        Carter if he has an integrity can easily watch the security footage and expose which person has breached the parliament rules in order to put an MP into some kind of perceived ‘shame’ in the media.

        Question is, is Carter a straight up unbiased speaker who will view this seriously or not?

    • mickysavage 6.3

      Posters on TS are not the Labour Party and it goes to show how extremely silly your comment is and how the right do not care about what they say but say it in the hope that they will hurt the left.

      The day that Cameron Slater stops posting incessant personal attacks on people on the left is the day that he and his ilk can start to complain about ethical standards.

      The picture is not funny, there is no political angle to it, there is a strong sense that a National MP took a photo and handed it onto Slater. Turei is being mocked because of some people’s perception of her looks, not because of her politics.

      • Populuxe1 6.3.1

        At no point did I suggest the posters on TS are the Labour Party – please don’t put words in my mouth. I can’t even imagine why that would be relevant anyway (although it might be a bit disingenious to suggest that you aren’t, what with the name, the Labour avatar picture, the endless breathless hagiographies of Cunlips etc)
        The picture is funny. It’s a funny hat. We are allowed to laugh at politicians who are ostensibly “our team”, but that is beside the point.
        I have no problem at all with mocking National and ACT – they heartily deserve it, but criticising anyone else for doing the same thing being done to left wing politcians is entirely hypocritical and pontless.
        All being shrill about it does is draw attention to it, gives FailOil attention, and generally furthers the impression among the swing voters of middle New Zealand taht the left are a bunch of thin skinned whingers who take themselves too seriously.

        • felix 6.3.1.1

          “The picture is funny. It’s a funny hat.”

          It is truly lost on me. I just see a woman with a hat. And a scarf. Is it a funny scarf too?

          Please Pop, I’m genuinely curious. Hand on heart. What’s funny about the hat?

          • framu 6.3.1.1.1

            is it that its on her head?

            im confused there aswell – “woolen hat, and in winter too! ahh ha ha ha!”

      • srylands 6.3.2

        I think she deserves to be mocked for her politics, her looks, and her carbon footprint. However, on this occasion she is being mocked simply because she is plainly not in compliance with the dress code that all members of Parliament are required to meet.

        • You think she “deserves to be mocked for her looks” and that’s why your opinion is irrelevant.

          • quartz 6.3.2.1.1

            I wouldn’t engage with this one if I were you. He’s fucking creepy.

            • Tracey 6.3.2.1.1.1

              yup, he is best ignored. In fact a day ignoring a bunch of them would make for interesting observation.

        • framu 6.3.2.2

          “I think she deserves to be mocked for … her looks”

          wow – talk about playing the ball

          get back in your hole you sad little aresehole

          • Clemgeopin 6.3.2.2.1

            Can this idiot srylands enter his own arsehole?..Uum, May be he can, as he seems like crap with his very nasty comment against Metiria.

        • Minarch 6.3.2.3

          He just knows she would shoot him down if he tried it on….

          im surprised he didnt call her a lesbian as well…

        • Rodel 6.3.2.4

          Sry
          I think Paula Bennett and Judith Collins and Anne Tolley deserve to be mocked for their politics, their looks, and their carbon footprints. However, on this occasion they are being mocked simply because they are plainly not in compliance with the ethical code that all members of Parliament are required to meet.
          Ho hum Same old meaninglesnness. ( Is that a word?)

    • Tracey 6.4

      I don’t recall being elected to parliament or having been made PM and promising high standards of behaviour. Will my missing pay be backdated?

  7. tinfoilhat 7

    Why bother giving Slater any oxygen, he just thrives on the attention.

  8. wonderpup 8

    Completely tangentially, a few weeks back I was looking at material about NZ’s first woman MP, Elizabeth McCombs (Lyttelton, 1933) and saw that hats played a large part of the media about her. Plus ca change, huh?

  9. Saarbo 9

    She looks cool… only right wing narrow minded sad little hillbillies would suggest there was something wrong with her attire….

    • srylands 9.1

      I think the point that Whale Oil Beef Hooked (WOBH) is making is that the memeber is not complying with the dress code that applies to members. This states clearly:

      “The Speaker is expected to take issue with any member who is not dressed in appropriate business attire”

      http://www.parliament.nz/en-nz/about-parliament/how-parliament-works/ppnz/00HOOOCPPNZ_111/chapter-11-the-chamber-buildings-and-grounds#_Toc268510993

      It is quite clear from the photo that the member is not dressed in appropriate business attire. As such, she should not have been in the debating chamber.

      • Suddenly it’s all clear! Cameron Slater is just writing in a language very similar to English, in which “looks like a hobo” actually means “is possibly in violation of standing orders.” 🙄

        • quartz 9.1.1.1

          According to srylands she was asking for it.

        • karol 9.1.1.2

          So, first Turei gets attacked because she advocates for those in poverty, while wearing posh clothes. Now she gets attacked for dressing like someone in poverty…….?

          These righties can’t seem to make a consistent attack line.

          • Tracey 9.1.1.2.1

            One thing is pretty clear about the right and its supporters. When it comes to behaviour you cannot accuse them of consistency. Sadly the ones with children think the children will be doing what they say not what they see their parents doing, and hey presto another generation of money obsessed, insensitive NZers to join the right wing parties

          • McFlock 9.1.1.2.2

            good point

      • wtl 9.1.2

        It is quite clear from the photo that the member is not dressed in appropriate business attire. As such, she should not have been in the debating chamber.

        If that was the case, then the appropriate course of action is for a member to raise the issue with the Speaker within the house, not take a photograph and send it to a blogsite. Idiot.

      • Macro 9.1.3

        So the Nat’s who dressed up last night were “appropriately dressed”

      • The Al1en 9.1.4

        “It is quite clear from the photo that the member is not dressed in appropriate business attire. As such, she should not have been in the debating chamber.”

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10330174/Colleagues-tie-one-on-for-Ryalls-farewell

        “junior whip Tim MacIndoe, who affected giant polka dots on clashing checks, and an orange plastic gerbera buttonhole. Energy Minister Simon Bridges ran him close with his tribute of a pink retro floral wallpaper number, strobing from a sinister dark shirt.”

        Did sicknote run anything on those knobbers? No, thought not.
        Just another rwnj wankstain on the duvet cover of life.

      • Rodel 9.1.5

        Sad but it took Hoskings and co. to tell NZ viewers of TV1 that ‘Whale Oil-Beef Hooked’ is actually a “clever” (not) play on words for “Well I’ll be f*cked!” -The intellect and humour necessary to appreciate the sophistication of this title was beyond me.

        I guess many of us just don’t think the same way as wotsisname.

        But I wonder if his good mate John Key is aware of wotsisname’s clever little joke. Some journalist should ask him.

    • adam 9.2

      As white trash I’m offended by your comments Saarbo. She looks good and fine to this old boy.

      please note – tongue firmly in cheek

    • srylands 9.3

      Her “attire” is not in compliance with Standing Orders.

      • Murray Olsen 9.3.1

        So fucking what? Your party’s ex-MP is a fraudster. I think that’s a bit more important.

        In any case, who can say that a woollen hat isn’t “business attire”, whatever that is. There should be more standing orders about their behaviour and how they ask questions, but not what they have on their heads, you blithering idiot.

      • felix 9.3.2

        Absolute bullshit. If any MP or the Speaker thought her attire was inappropriate they would have raised the matter at the time.

        That’s the standard practice. I’ve seen it happen before when Clare Curran wore a rugby supporter’s jersey.

        What I saw at Cameron’s (Jason’s) site was that the photo was posted without any explanation, and the commenters struggled to find the relevance.

        Of course no-one wants to admit that they don’t get it, so half of them are outraged without saying about what, and half of them think it’s hilarious but can’t say why.

        You guys need to get your story straight before you do weird stuff like this.

      • framu 9.3.3

        your existance isnt in compliance with humanity

  10. reason 10

    creepy stalker photo from a national party mp sent to a sick and nasty man.

    what next ? …………. shoe camera shots up the skirt from the sultan of sleaze ?

    couldn’t get close enough probably.

    • srylands 10.1

      “a sick and nasty man” Seriously? The guy runs an award winning media outlet. It is the most popular blog in the country. Get some perspective.

      edit: As a financial supporter of Whale Oil Beef Hooked (WOBH) I assure you I would not support it if the blog was run by a sick nasty man.

      • quartz 10.1.1

        You spend money to support a pro-rape site? You’re a disgrace.

        • McFlock 10.1.1.1

          the fuckwit is a bit like a shit onion – as each layer is revealed, it turns out to be even more noxious and stinky than the one that preceeded it.

      • wtl 10.1.2

        edit: As a financial supporter of Whale Oil Beef Hooked (WOBH) I assure you I would not support it if the blog was run by a sick nasty man.

        So says a sick nasty man*.

        * e.g. comment 6.3.2 saying that Turei “deserves to be mocked… for her looks”

      • Macro 10.1.3

        “The guy runs an award winning media outlet.”

        LOL

        Yeah right! Next Tui add.

        Just how CREDIBLE is that “award”.

        • Hayden 10.1.3.1

          Come on now, it takes a lot of work to get a story from Luigi Wewege and post it on your blog. Top-quality investigative journalism!

      • framu 10.1.4

        ” I assure you I would not support it if the blog was run by a sick nasty man.”

        so your cool with photoshopping 14 year olds onto gay porn and exposing victims of doemstic violence?

        and yes – i expect an answer to that

        im not surprised – but you need go away and do some thinking about what it means to be a good decent person

        • Rodel 10.1.4.1

          framu
          Are you saying you don’t accept Sry’s assurance about not giving money to a sick nasty man? Shame on you.

          (PS to Sry -That’s a joke)

      • Tracey 10.1.5

        child porn sites are very popular too

      • Daveosaurus 10.1.7

        What’s your problem, Shitlands? Run out of rivers to pollute, have you?

  11. john 11

    So everyone commenting here, about other comments, about the blog post, that’s written about another blog post, that’s about an irrelevant hat, are all “Focusing on the issues that matter” ????????

    • infused 11.1

      Welcome to The Standard.

      “Blog Posts That Matter”

      [lprent: You knkw that it is inadvisable to question why we run this site the way we want to. Have you decided to get banned? ]

    • lprent 11.2

      Actually yes. People trying to and often managing to frame the debate on to trivia are dangerous. A good example was Brash in 2005 who tried to mask his agenda under the irrelevancies of unaffordable taxcuts and racial bigotry. He was politically inept, so managed to activate voters of the sort that wouldn’t vote for him.

      However john key and his team manager to do exactly the same a few years later using sock puppets paid indirectly like Cam Slater, David Farrar, and their access to media to create silly irrelevant memes.

      This site was set up by people concerned with that trend and in part exists to combat that trivialization.

      Read the policy about trying to tell us how to run our site. If you want to get the boot from here, carry on doing it.

    • distribed 11.3

      If this “john” is John Key,

      We ask why you John Key as Prime minister of N.Z. has never replied to C.E.A.C. our NGO’s 54 emails sent you a your Parliamentary address over the last four years?

      We have requested to meet with you on numerous occasions and even when you visited Napier & Gisborne but failed the request made to you to set a short time to meet community members to discuss our focus on issues that matter to our communities, and you still never ever had the decency to have addressed our community requests to discuss or meet you for “Focusing on the issues that matter” ????????

      This is your last chance to respond to our request made 54 times to finally discuss with the Napier Gisborne community Groups our focussing on the issues that matter???????

    • Tracey 11.4

      You’re back John. Have you considered sacking Gerry Johnathan and Nick yet? Is that what you were doing yesterday? Chatting with Mark and reading polls to make up your mind for you?

  12. Tanz 12

    Cam Slater is as left as they come. He loathes the Conservatives just like the left do. His is a left voice, even if he operates under a blue flag. I don’t believe that his blog is as popular as he makes out.

    • felix 12.1

      He hates unions too. Hated them since he was 15! So now he’s a right wing voice, eh?

      His hatefulness is more of a defining quality than his position on the political spectrum will ever be.

    • Tracey 12.2

      could you tell me what Left policies he stands for and advocates on his site?

  13. NZJester 13

    Mocking her for looking homeless is a big stretch considering she looks well presented in the picture.
    Some of the photos I have seen of badly shaved Cameron Slater however do at times make him look like a homeless drunk.

    • felix 13.1

      Yeah he’s hardly in a position to mock anyone’s appearance. He’s always been especially keen on ridiculing people for being fat.

      Sometimes it’s almost as if it isn’t really him writing at all…

      • Tracey 13.1.1

        late night and an early morning here Felix seems to have lighted your fire… Great responses man

  14. Macro 14

    ” He’s always been especially keen on ridiculing people for being fat.”

    Really! – How ironic! 🙂

  15. Hayden 16

    I saw this just now and was reminded of this thread:

    This is a guy who just wants to be dealt in at the table. He knows that he can’t win, he can’t hang, but he wants to just be included. He wants to be at the cool kids’ table. He is the same jib cut as many who toil at the Justification Machine. You see this with folks like Dean Chambers–who, oddly enough, I went to school with. These are thwarted humans, who just want to be liked, and since they’re fairly unskilled socially, they figure if they just keep showing up with gifts, that they’ll be allowed to stick around. Yes, it’s an immature and undeveloped impulse, but that’s who they are. And they’re useful, in that they toil without a lot of compensation, and they’ll get invited to a few parties, where folks will pat them on the head for a moment, and then turn back to their real friends, but for a moment, they’re included. That so many of these poor souls are chunky…that’s not coincidence. They ARE fat kids who want to be at the cool kids’ table, they want to be with the cheerleaders, and the football players, and they bring cake and candy and a camera, and take their moments where they can. And they keep doing it for the rest of their damn lives, because they’re damaged individuals who can’t grow the f*ck up.

    The ones that do grow up? They don’t court favor. They don’t curry favor. They get on with their lives, and this poor soul is just an example of a cog in a machine that eats up toadying fat kids like said candy, and they like it. Because they get a tiny kernel of validation for a moment, and then they have to chase their next high. They are power junkies, and despite the fact that they will never hold any themselves, they just want to be near it. That’s enough. Because there are damaged girls somewhere near all that mess, and those girls are looking for validation too, and sometimes they get together and make more damaged humans. And thus the cycle continues…

    Source: http://www.fark.com/comments/8355491/92166384#c92166384

    • Tracey 16.1

      Interesting observation… especially as he seems to get tot he big table only because they use him to do their dirty work… it’s his distance and blog… not him.

  16. Lucy 17

    Would have thought taking photo on debating floor was not allowed and which ever MP did it and sent it could be censured. But it is not really a bigger think Greens have more things on their minds like election cycle. Use to check out WOBH a bit but do not go so much as his sources no longer go to him as first point. Think they got shafted by the glory hound once to often – and the mess he made of Len Brown after math proved once and for all that he could not be trusted to report news as he tried to create and then manipulate the outcome. So he now follows and comments

  17. Puckish Rogue 18

    Is this kind of weird stalking what John Key’s talking about when he says his caucus is “focused on the issues that matter”?

    • Last time I checked Cam Slater isn’t an MP though with Nationals popularity he could get in on the list except he hates list MPs with a passion

    And what the fuck is National’s problem with what Metiria Turei wears?

    • Suggesting Cam Slater speaks for the National is like suggesting The Standard speaks for the Labour party
    • framu 18.1

      for that to work you have to ignore the fact that cam has a history of doing national and keys dirty work

      you also have to ignore just how cam got the photo in the first place

      basically your whole argument falls over at the first logic test

      • Puckish Rogue 18.1.1

        Well no because there are posters here that do work for the Labour party so if its good for goose etc also people on both sides of the house send him things through his tip line

        • framu 18.1.1.1

          making comments that support a party is utterly different from being a paid up member of a dirty tricks smear machine

          organised smears and propaganda machine vs connected supporters who happen to say things online

          if you want to make the argument that posters at the standard are on the same level as cam slater your welcome – but it wont really get that far because its not even remotely true

      • Bob 18.1.2

        And you ignore the fact LPrent and Mickeysavage has a history of doing Labours dirty work, what’s your point? They, like Cam Slater don’t have to stick to the party line as they are not representitives of, or MP’s in the party, so PR’s points still stand.

        Why don’t you attack Zetetic for not being “focused on the issues that matter”?

        • framu 18.1.2.1

          “so PR’s points still stand.”

          no it doesnt because – you also have to ignore just how cam got the photo in the first place

        • Tracey 18.1.2.2

          Do they? Examples please

      • framu 18.1.3

        look bob and PR

        who in the blogosphere is widely known for being in paid employment by the nats for the purpose of running smear campaigns against their opponents?

        Who in the blogosphere has an extremely cosy relationship with the PM and chats to him on a regular basis

        Who in the blogosphere is also connected to, jason ede, simon lusk and jordan williams – known shit stirrers and trouble makers connected to the national party?

        who on this site has posted illicitly obtained photos from inside the debating chamber?

        and the biggest point your both ignoring – you also have to ignore just how cam got the photo in the first place! – thats one of the central points of the post!

        your sense of equivilance is broken

        • Bob 18.1.3.1

          Framu – Who in the blogoshpere is widely known for setting up a secret trust for David Cunliffe’s anonymous donations?

          Who in the blogosphere is widely known for having an extremely cosy relationship with David Cunliffe?

          How do you know the photo was obtained “illicitly”? Do you know the Speaker didn’t allow it? And you have no issue with the beanie being worn illicitly?

          The title of the post is “Focusing on the issues that matter?”, I didn’t realise how a photo ended up in a bloggers hands was one of the issues that matter! Good to see all of the other major issues in this country have now been cleared up, thanks Framu

          Your sense of equivilance is equally broken

          • framu 18.1.3.1.1

            Who in the blogoshpere is widely known for setting up a secret trust for David Cunliffe’s anonymous donations?

            • not the same thing

            Who in the blogosphere is widely known for having an extremely cosy relationship with David Cunliffe?

            • as ive already pointed out its not the same thing -its not on the same level as slater and you know this – thats the point there

            How do you know the photo was obtained “illicitly”? Do you know the Speaker didn’t allow it? And you have no issue with the beanie being worn illicitly?

            • was the house in session? – did the hat come off when it was? if the speaker allowed it why? considering that the correct thing to do is raise it in the house what is the speaker doing allowing cam to run it in public. Theres are rules about media taking photos and footage of MPs isnt there wonder boy

            The title of the post is “Focusing on the issues that matter?”

            wow you can read, get a gold star – thats the point – this is an issue that doesnt matter yet little smear merchants like cam think it is and you seem to support it – its a woolen hat – get over it – stop defending the actions of a rogue agent who runs the nats dirty tricks and photoshops kids onto gay porn for kicks.

            and frankly – im not the labour party and can talk about whatever i damn well choose. My sense of equivalence is fine – its you who cant tell the difference between people saying things in public and an organised smear machine, which is kinda sad

    • Tracey 18.2

      You seem to know who took the photo, can you post your proof?

      • Puckish Rogue 18.2.1

        I’ll offer as much proof as others on here have, here we go:

        did you get it?

  18. Tom 19

    No the smartest bunch. They uploaded the original photo, so all the extended metadata that is embedded in the photo is still present.
    If you save the photo and look at the file properties in Windows (or use an online EXIF metadata reader – like, for example the first one that comes up in google: http://metapicz.com/ )

    You can see it was taken on 2014:07:29 at 21:40:15 (assume thats NZDT?)
    On a iPhone 5 using the rear camera.
    (note that’s a iPhone 5 not a 5s)
    Should narrow it down?

    • Tracey 19.1

      hmmm whose lap would Slater have been in?

      • srylands 19.1.1

        That is pretty rude. As far as I know Cameron Slater is an outstanding guy with high moral standards and a loving family. What on earth makes you think you are justified in such smarmy slanderous comments?

        Sadly, Green Taliban supporters seem to be over-represented in general rudeness and nastiness.

        • Chooky 19.1.1.1

          @ srylands…lol…”Cameron Slater is an outstanding guy with high moral standards”…similar to yours i take it ? …and do you have the same dress sense?

        • framu 19.1.1.2

          aww boo ho – cry me a river

          you still havent figured out that photoshopping 14 year olds onto gay porn, exposing victims of domestic violence, making light of rape etc etc doesnt actually represent high moral standards have you?

          You are one of the most insulting people ive ever come across – and you hide it behind such mendacious semantics too. At least most humans have the good graces to be upfront when they are being rude.

          • vto 19.1.1.2.1

            I agree framu.

            It is srylands and his thinking which is rude. His type of thinking and the resultant policies which lead to 29 dead men at Pike River, leave the poor of East Chch to suffer under the greed of the ‘free market’ while the rich CBD property owners get state support, pull the remaining stability from the children of East Chch by stomping on their schools, allowing business people to pollute rivers to an extent that we cannot drink from it or swim in it and kills all the life in it, is rude.

            It is all of that which is truly rude. Rude in the extreme. That srylands cries when he gets called a tosser or wanker is laughable and further evidences his lack of grasp on reality.

            People who advocate for those types of policies above deserve nothing but rudeness.

            What do they think this is? Some sort of school debating chamber where we will all smile and shake hands at the end of the day? I don’t think so. This is not tiddly winks, as Tana Umaga famously put it. Wake the fuck up.

            And as for Slater – the fat slug can suck it up. He laughed for joy when a west coaster died in a car crash claiming the world was better off with one less bogan. Slater is a cunt.

            • srylands 19.1.1.2.1.1

              VTO – politeness goes a long way in all aspects of life. It is simply unacceptable in any business to call people tossers and wankers. People who behave like that generally end up either unemployed or in prison, or on minimum wage jobs.

              If you focus on the issues that matter, and do so politely you will be influential. You might even get a job paying more than $50 an hour. If you spit bile and swear, call people “fat slugs” and come across as a 1950s socialist, you will be ignored.

              Just some free advice.

              • vto

                fuck off arsehole

                did you just miss all the true rudeness outlined which spills from the attitudes of people like you and the fat slug slater?

                wanker

              • vto

                and you consider this polite …

                29 dead men at Pike River, leave the poor of East Chch to suffer under the greed of the ‘free market’ while the rich CBD property owners get state support, pull the remaining stability from the children of East Chch by stomping on their schools, allowing business people to pollute rivers to an extent that we cannot drink from it or swim in it and kills all the life in it

                rude arsehole

              • McFlock

                Oh, you’re pretending once again that your delicate lips are unsullied by expletives, are you?

                Rich people swear, too. Hell, my previous boss was known to drop the F-bomb, and she was on good coin.

                But she wasn’t a fuckwit. Regardless of whether you use obscenities or not, you’re still a poor excuse for humanity.

              • Chooky

                @ srylands

                …toxicity, racism , misogyny dressed up in the guise of “politeness” is still toxicity , racism and misogyny….dont kid yourself !

                …and the answer to such toxicity, racism and misogyny is not politeness…it needs to be called out honestly for what it is

                …even if that involves rudeness to you ……so good on VTO for his honesty!

              • Minarch

                its a good thing its free advice

                because it isnt worth shit….

    • Blue 19.2

      Interesting. That time stamp puts it in the third reading of the Veteran’s Support Bill, somewhere around the end of Phil Goff/beginning of Melissa Lee.

      So instead of focusing on Veteran’s Support, National MPs were focused on Metiria Turei’s hat.

      This video from IntheHouse at 2.01 shows the people who were on the National side around the time the photo was taken.

      http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/34265

      • The Al1en 19.2.1

        6.16 and 7.33 give telling shots.

        Edit: Goldsmith?

        Second edit: I’d put money on Collins. If I were in the house with parliamentary privilege I’d out her.

      • felix 19.2.2

        Who are the two douches behind Collins, at about the direction and height the pic looks like it was taken from, who appear to be looking at something on a phone?

        1 min 59 sec.

  19. Probably just an ordered by the party attempt by sicknote slater to drag the green party into complaining about national, rather than continuing to focus on their successful positive campaign style, as they look solid, united and formidable.

    Having said that, taking sneak photographs of mps in the chamber, without permission or prior knowledge, and then releasing them to supportive blogs must breach parliamentary rules.
    An impartial and honest speaker would be organising an investigation as we type.

  20. fambo 21

    A huge amount of body heat is lost from the top of the head. Therefore in winter hats are really useful for staying healthy and fighting sickness when you are not well as they conserve that energy which is then used by the body to fight the illness.

    It’s good to see more people in Wellington wearing hats in winter which is very simple and people are discovering that hats actually add character and can make a person look really good.

    In summer, of course, they are becoming almost vital for shade as we are still suffering from the depletion of the ozone layer even though a global agreement ceased the use of CFCs and other ozone destroying gases in the 1990s (i think). There is still enough of these gases in the atmosphere for the effects to continue for a few more decades yet.

  21. reason 22

    slater is one seriously sick and nasty national party attack dog.

    And sure we can feel sorry for vicious attack dogs as I do, because they are after all fucked in the head in a very angry and unhappy way.

    They usually end up biting the wrong person and getting destroyed.

    Compared to mocking dead teenagers or children with unusual names slaters latest disturbed post on his online sewer is about in the middle of his nasty shit spectrum.

    The real question for me is who is the national mp and natural stalker who took the cheap shot/photo ?.

    Judith Collins ?, Jami Lee Ross ?

    Who is the sleaze in the chamber ?

    So many to choose from in the nats ……………..

    • Puckish Rogue 22.1

      Why assume its from the right? Theres a few on the left that would benefit from the Greens getting less of the lefts votes…

      • felix 22.1.1

        “Why assume its from the right?”

        Um, have you seen the photo? It was taken from the right.

  22. Delia 23

    Can Slater talk with his grease stained T Shirts, seriously?

  23. Roy 24

    Sorry, what’s wrong with the hat? She’s even wearing a matching scarf.

  24. disturbed 25

    Well that string was a replica of Nat’s behaviour in debate & question and answer. All those National zealot’s did was bait the whole discussion with corrosive snide remarks and provocation which turns any intelligent debate into a slinging match, exactly what the Nat’s did all through the parliamentary term.

    They have such a lack of respect for others opinions they tend to force their own agenda on others without any regard for other folks ideas.

    They are fools and destructive to our beautiful land and lives and must go this year or we are in real trouble.

    “There are none so deaf as those who will not listen” and they should serve the country with care to work together for the good of all not just their own agendas.
    “More heads are better than one” is not in the minds of all those National bunch in and out of parliament.
    All the last phrases indicated we are stronger working together but the Nat’s don’t want a bar of it.
    They wont work with local Gov’t
    Or communities either.
    So this is why they will fail the test in this election as they are arrogant and repressive by nature and all can now see it clearly now and are walking away from arrogance and joining the kinder gentler side this year. They have woken up.

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  • The SIS unlawfully spied on Nicky Hager
    Back in 2011, journalist Nicky Hager published Other People's Wars, an expose on NZDF's activities over the previous decade of the "war on terror". NZDF didn't like this, and especially didn't like the fact that it was base don leaks from their own. So, they had the SIS investigate him ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • October 2019 – Newsletter
    https://mailchi.mp/7d9133add053/closing-the-gap-october-2019-newsletter ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    2 weeks ago
  • And they wonder why we think they’re environmental vandals…
    The Zero Carbon Bill is due back from select committee in two weeks, and will likely pass its final stages in November. So naturally, farmers are planning a hate-march against it. But they're not just demanding lower methane targets so they can keep on destroying the planet; they're also demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Paying the price in California
    Last year, California burned. This year, to stop it happening again (or rather, to stop themselves from being found liable if it happens again), Pacific Gas and Electric is cutting power to half the state for a week:Schools are closed. Traffic lights down. Tunnels dark. Businesses unopened. Hospitals running on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

  • Dashboard tracks housing progress
    The Government’s Housing Dashboard released today confirms record numbers of state houses are under construction and shows the Government build programme is gaining momentum.  “After nine years of inaction, and a hands-off attitude from the previous government we’re starting to see things move in the right direction for housing,” says ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    38 mins ago
  • Ministerial Statement on the International Convention Centre fire
    Mr Speaker, I wish to make a ministerial statement relating to the Auckland fire. The Government is closely monitoring the situation with the fire at the NZ International Convention Centre and is thankful that everyone is now safe. Firefighters are doing an incredible job managing the fire and bringing it ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago
  • Government invests in Te Reo, environmental data research
    The Government is investing in ambitious research that will digitise Te Reo, grow the low-carbon protein efficient aquaculture industry, help interpret environmental trends, and large data sets says Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods. The four projects range from teaching Siri to speak Te Reo to crunching large environmental ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 hours ago
  • Government announces next steps as part of a comprehensive plan to fix skills gap
    A new education-to-employment brokerage service to strengthen connections between local employers and schools. Funding for more trades focused ‘speed-dating’ events to connect schools with employers. Promotional campaign to raise profile of vocational education. The Government is taking action to increase the number of young people taking up vocational education and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    8 hours ago
  • Corrections Amendment Bill passes third reading
    A Bill to improve prison security and ensure the fair, safe, and humane treatment of people in prison while upholding public safety has passed its third reading. Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis says the Corrections Amendment Bill makes a number of changes to ensure the Corrections Act 2004 is fit for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago
  • Ngāi Tahu CEO appointed to NZ-China Council
    Minister for Māori Development, Nanaia Mahuta, has selected Arihia Bennett MNZM, Chief Executive Officer of Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Tahu, as the Te Puni Kōkiri appointed representative on the New Zealand-China Council. The New Zealand-China Council (the Council) was established in 2012 as a New Zealand led and funded organisation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Southern Response claims move to EQC
    Responsibility for processing the small number of Southern Response claims still to be settled will be transferred to EQC by the end of the year. “As claim numbers reduce, it no longer makes sense for the Crown to have two organisations processing the remaining Canterbury claims,” Grant Robertson says. “Since ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Bowel screening starts in Whanganui
    Health Minister David Clark is encouraging Whanganui residents to take up the opportunity for free bowel screening, which can detect cancer early when it’s easier to treat.   Over the next two years 12,000 Whanganui locals, aged 60 to 74 will be invited to participate in the National Bowel Screening ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Pacific Peoples Minister to attend Our Ocean Conference in Norway
    Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio, heads to Oslo today to represent New Zealand at the sixth Our Ocean Conference, which is being hosted by the Norwegian Government from the 23-24 October. “The Our Ocean Conference mobilises real action on issues like marine plastic pollution and the impacts of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Government announces 27 percent increase in Trades Academy places
    Two secondary-school initiatives are being expanded as part of the Government’s plan to see more young New Zealanders take up a trade to help close the skills gap.   This includes the largest single increase in Trades Academy places in recent years. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Education Minister Chris ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Speech to the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs, Pacific Futures Conference: Connection...
    Session 4: Pacific Connectivity – Youth, Media and New Opportunities   Kia ora tatou katoa and Warm Pacific greetings to one and all. Representatives of Tainui, the local people of the land, or manawhenua – the indigenous peoples of this area – have welcomed you this morning in accordance with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Methane reducing cattle feed one step closer
    The Government today announced its support for a project that could substantially reduce agricultural greenhouse gas emissions from cattle. The announcement was made as part of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s and Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor’s visit to Nelson’s Cawthron Aquaculture Park. The Cawthron Institute will receive $100,000 from the Government’s ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Bill to refresh superannuation system passes first reading
    Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni has welcomed the first reading of the New Zealand Superannuation and Veteran’s Pension Legislation Amendment Bill. “Every New Zealander has a stake in New Zealand Superannuation and Veteran’s Pension,” says Carmel Sepuloni. “They are our most common form of social assistance – nearly 800,000 New ...
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    5 days ago
  • Government announces next steps in fight against measles
    Babies in Auckland aged six months and over can receive a free vaccination and children will all have access to vaccines, Associate Minister of Health Julie Anne Genter announced today at Papatoetoe High School.   The move comes as part of Government efforts to step up the fight against measles. ...
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    5 days ago
  • Speech to the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs, Pacific Futures: Connections, Identity...
    ***Check against delivery*** Good morning. It is a pleasure to be here, and to have the honour of opening this important conference on behalf of the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. Let us take the opportunity to acknowledge all the people who have helped make today possible, including our special ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Police trial new response to high risk events
    Police Minister Stuart Nash says the safety of frontline officers and members of the public will be the focus of a new trial of specialist Police response teams in three of our largest urban centres. Police have this morning released details of an initiative to be trialled in Counties Manukau, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • New awards celebrate fisheries sustainability
    The Minister of Fisheries is calling for entries for a new public award to celebrate innovation in our seafood sector. “I have established the Seafood Sustainability Awards to recognise and celebrate those throughout industry, tangata whenua and communities who demonstrate outstanding dedication and innovation towards the sustainability of New Zealand’s ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • More progress for women and we can do more
    Minister for Women Julie Anne Genter welcomes leaders in the private sector taking action on closing their gender pay gaps to ensure a fairer workplace for all New Zealanders. Ms Genter today launched a new report, Addressing the gender pay gap and driving women’s representation in senior leadership, from the Champions for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Proposals to curb environmental damage help our coasts and the oceans
    Government Ministers today welcomed the release of a marine environment report highlighting the four key issues affecting our oceans, estuaries and coastlines.  The release underlines the importance of government proposals to combat climate pollution, ensure clean freshwater, protect biodiversity, make land use more sustainable, and reduce waste and plastic.    Environment ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New mental health facility for Waikato
    The Government has approved funding for a new acute mental health facility for Waikato which will provide better care and support to people with mental health and addiction issues. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Health Minister Dr David Clark announced the $100 million project to replace the aging Henry Rongomau ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • 500 new te reo Māori champions in our classrooms
    The Government is making progress on its goal to integrate te reo Māori into education by 2025, with over 500 teachers and support staff already graduating from Te Ahu o te Reo Māori,  Associate Education Minister Kelvin Davis announced today. Kelvin Davis made the announcement at an awards ceremony in Waikanae today, for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Minister James Shaw welcomes 2018 Census first release
    Statistics Minister James Shaw has welcomed the first release of 2018 Census data. The first release of data today, 23 September, includes key data on population, regional growth, the number of homes and the size of different ethnic groups in New Zealand. Data from the 2018 Census will support the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Driving transparency, ethics and accountability in government use of algorithms
    Minister for Statistics James Shaw today announced a public consultation on a proposed algorithm charter for government agencies. The charter has been developed by the Government Chief Data Steward in response to growing calls for more transparency in government use of data. Computer algorithms – procedures or formulas for solving ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New Zealand and the Netherlands working together on climate change
    Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor, Climate Change Minister James Shaw and visiting Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte co-hosted a business roundtable in Auckland this morning focused on working together to address climate change.  “The Netherlands is an important partner for New Zealand. We share a strong agricultural history. Sustainable agribusiness and ...
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    6 days ago
  • Protecting fairness for workers and businesses
    The Government is taking action to build an inclusive economy where more of us receive our fair share at work and businesses can compete on great products and services, not undercutting wages and conditions, Immigration and Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. Two consultations launched today seek feedback ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Indigenous Freshwater Fish Bill Passes
    The future for New Zealand’s threatened indigenous freshwater fish looks brighter with the passing of the Conservation (Indigenous Freshwater Fish) Amendment Bill in Parliament today said Minister of Conservation, Eugenie Sage. “Until now, our freshwater fish legislation has been 20 years out of date. We have lacked effective tools to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Kiwis to take part in world’s biggest earthquake drill
    At 1.30pm tomorrow, hundreds of thousands of Kiwis will join about 65 million people around the globe in ShakeOut, the world’s biggest earthquake drill. The annual drill is to remind people of the right action to take during an earthquake which is to Drop, Cover, Hold, and to practise their ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Rising wages and low inflation supporting Kiwis
    Kiwis are benefiting from higher wage growth and low inflation under the Coalition Government. Stats NZ data out today shows the rise in the cost of living remains low, as annual Consumers Price Index (CPI) inflation fell to 1.5% in September from 1.7% in June. “The low inflation comes as ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • NZ economy strong amid global headwinds
    New Zealand’s economic strength and resilience has been recognised in a major update on the state of the global economy. The IMF’s latest World Economic Outlook released overnight shows a reduced global growth forecast over the next two years as issues like the US-China trade war and Brexit take hold. ...
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    1 week ago
  • Keeping New Zealanders safer with better counter-terrorism laws
    Justice Minister Andrew Little has today introduced a new Bill to prevent terrorism and support the de-radicalisation of New Zealanders returning from overseas. The Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) Bill gives the New Zealand Police the ability to apply to the High Court to impose control orders on New Zealanders who ...
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    1 week ago
  • Improved succession and dispute resolution core of Ture Whenua changes
    A Bill that proposes targeted changes to simplify the processes for Māori land owners when engaging with the Māori Land Court has had its First Reading today. “The approach taken by the Government is to ensure that the protection of Māori land remains a priority as we seek to improve ...
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    1 week ago
  • Speech to CTU Biennial Conference
    Let me first thank all the new unionists and members in the room. There is nothing more important to improving people’s working lives than people making the decision to care, to get on board and help, to take up the reins and get involved. Congratulations to you. You bring the ...
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    1 week ago
  • Minister ensures continued Whenuapai flight operations
    Minister of Defence Ron Mark has signed a certificate exempting the activity of engine testing at Whenuapai Airbase from the Resource Management Act 1991. The Act gives the Minister of Defence the power to exempt activities for the purposes of national security.  The certificate will mean the recent Environment Court ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • NZ joins Coalition of Finance Ministers for Climate Action
    Finance Minister Grant Robertson has announced New Zealand will join the Coalition of Finance Ministers for Climate Action while attending APEC meetings in Chile. The objective of the 39 member Coalition is to share information and promote action to tackle climate change. It was formed in April this year, in ...
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    1 week ago
  • Feedback Sought – Section 71 – Lyttelton Parking
    Feedback sought– Lyttelton commercial zone parking  The Associate Minister for Greater Christchurch Regeneration, Poto Williams, is seeking feedback on a proposal to remove on-site car parking requirements for new developments in the Lyttelton commercial zone.  The proposal, by Christchurch City Council, asks that powers under section 71 of the Greater ...
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    1 week ago
  • Feedback Sought – Section 71 – Hagley Oval
    Hon Minister Poto Williams Associate Minister for Greater Christchurch Regeneration   MEDIA STATEMENT       Tuesday 15 October 2019 Feedback sought – Hagley Oval The Associate Minister for Greater Christchurch Regeneration, Poto Williams, is seeking feedback on a proposal about Hagley Oval. The proposal was developed by Regenerate Christchurch ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • CTU speech – DPM
    Ladies and gentlemen, NZCTU President Richard Wagstaff, members of respective unions – thank you for the invitation to speak to you today. This might be preaching to the choir, but the importance of trade unions in New Zealand’s historical arch is difficult to understate. And it is my belief that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Police Association Annual Conference
    "Let’s start by acknowledging that it has been a huge year. " Police Association Annual Conference James Cook Grand Chancellor Hotel Wellington Nau mai, haere mai. Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, ka nui te mihi, ki a koutou katoa. President of the Police Association, Chris Cahill; Members of the Association and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand announces a further P-3 deployment in support of UN sanctions
    Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters and Minister of Defence Ron Mark have announced the New Zealand Government’s decision to again deploy a Royal New Zealand Air Force P-3K2 (P-3) maritime patrol aircraft to support the implementation of United Nations Security Council (UNSC) resolutions imposing sanctions against North Korea. New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand deeply concerned at developments in north-east Syria
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters says New Zealand continues to have serious concerns for peace and stability in north-east Syria. “Recent reports that hundreds of ISIS-affiliated families have fled from a camp are deeply concerning from a humanitarian and security perspective”, Mr Peters says. “While we acknowledge Turkey’s domestic security ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago