web analytics

Fran gets it

Written By: - Date published: 12:22 pm, April 25th, 2009 - 17 comments
Categories: auckland supercity, democracy under attack - Tags: ,

democracy-under-attack1

Fran O’Sullivan shows that she gets it – National-Act’s supercity is designed to serve the interests of the business elite by taking democracy away from the people of Auckland, and that’s the reason for their refusal to give the people of Auckland their referendum.

Problem is, Fran’s all in favour of getting rid of democracy:

“Grassroots democracy has hardly served Aucklanders well.”

What she really means is that democratic local government hasn’t served the interests of the Auckland business elite well enough for her liking. So she’s all for getting rid of pesky democracy and installing a representative of business on an all-powerful Lord Mayor’s throne.

It’s attitudes like Fran’s that show just why we need a referendum. Our political-business elite simply can’t be trusted not to screw the scrum.

17 comments on “Fran gets it”

  1. Gustavo Trellis 1

    She has a point. Look at the legacy of Hubbard, who won on a platform of not being John Banks and not a hell of a lot more. While it’s still an admirable political trait, he was not cut out for it enough and his reign was a joke. However, I doubt this is really a compelling argument to get rid of democracy altogether, and it’s not necessarily that democracy is flawed, just that people have to be smart enough to make a rational decision. Smarter voters, smarter system, everybody wins.

  2. Ianmac 2

    There are some who become elected councillors because they would like to help a community. But I think that often the system is there to further the interests of the business community. Self-interest; keep out the commercial competition, attract people to the shops, use volunteers to run the parades so that more people will shop etc. My direct dealing with our small-town council staff and the elected people has been great, and have no complaints and yet….
    As for Auckland…. Well good luck to those who choose to live there!!

  3. PFraser 3

    She has it wrong comparing Brisbane with the Auckland ‘super-city’. Brisbane still has several local councils and only those councils in the centre of Brisbane were amalgamated. They still have a lot of local democracy.

  4. Irascible 4

    She has a point. Look at the legacy of Hubbard, who won on a platform of not being John Banks and not a hell of a lot more.
    Well what about John Banks? He’s hardly an example of a democratically minded individual with community interests at heart. But then he is a NACTer so he must be acceptable to Fran ans the NACT spinners in the Herald.
    Auckland has not been served well by the business lobby groups for its history. Every community focused proposal from Mayor Robbie in the 1960s was squashed in favour of the business lobbies – the opportunity to have a decent public transport system based on light rail & a metro system disappeared in a ton of tarmac.
    Hide has it wrong and Auckland will suffer as a result.

  5. The Baron 5

    [Tane: Wrong. Deleted in line with policy. You can take your conspiracy theories elsewhere.]

    • Daveski 5.1

      Disturbed by this action Tane

      Nothing inappropriate in the post – no abuse, logically explained, genuine point – what exactly are you against and what exactly are you for?

      That you would delete a sane post that doesn’t attempt to abuse or troll in any way is disturbing. Yep, your site, your policy, I know the drill

      • Tane 5.1.1

        It’s not the misrepresentation of our positions on the supercity I had a problem with. It’s that he accused us of running a campaign for a referendum at the bidding of Labour. I find that personally offensive. It’s also in breach of site policy, hence why his comment was deleted.

        • Daveski 5.1.1.1

          I am a little more comfortable with that. The various posts have had a consistent line which I suppose is where TB was coming from. Thanks for the clarification.

          • Tane 5.1.1.1.1

            Well, we did do our first ever joint editorial on the issue. The basic argument is pretty simple, and I think pretty powerful. People deserve to have a say over the future of their democracy.

          • lprent 5.1.1.1.2

            One of the base points of this site is that it is a set of writers who write their own opinions. While I’m a strong supporter of Labour, it’d be fair to say that I’m not exactly a conventional supporter and have a strong tendency towards being a maverick. Beats me why Helen let me play with her electorate campaigns, but she did.

            Most of the other moderators probably aren’t labour supporters (although IrishBill sounds like he is getting back there again).

            In any case we don’t write things at the behest of any party or organization. We find it deeply offensive when people tell us that we do, and it is one of the fastest ways to get a hard boot from the site. TB was lucky that Tane got to him before I did.

            I’d point out that the editorial piece that Tane refers to was just from the moderators. The moderators talk to each other via e-mail, but there is no e-mail group of all of the writers. However I’m pretty sure that most of the various writers on the site would have supported the premise

            Incidentally, it’d be easy to argue that this site and others in the blogosphere (as well as grassroots) are dragging the political parties along, including Labour, rather than the other way around. The parties are showing strong signs of being surprised about the depth of feeling on this issue.

            I haven’t seen a single issue get quite this much traction in Auckland at grassroots. Most seem to think that we need better governance in some form, but super-city support is lukewarm. Personally, I’m in favour of some such body, but probably more akin to enhanced and more independent ARC than what Rodney or the royal commission proposed. I could live with something like the royal commissions system with changes. Rodney’s one just looks like a recipe for disaster.

            However Rodney and the NACT’s arrogant actions in pushing their own plan without any significant consultation just pisses people off. Seems like it is showing up as a major issue all of the way through the voting base, including in the support base for the right. I can’t help but think that Rodney overstepped the level of toleration of Aucklanders.

        • The Baron 5.1.1.2

          It wasn’t my intention to allege you were running this campaign on the behest of the Labour Party, though (from what I recall) I can see how that impression could be gained.

          The intent of the post was that both the Standard writers, and the Labour party, have an inconsistent approach, and a non-existent response, to this particular move. I was pointing out a parallel, not a coordination.

          Once again (and not to be antagonistic – I hope you don’t object to rewording to avoid any impression of “consipracy”) the simple question was “What is the alternative to the approach being taken?”. This site’s, and the Labour Party’s (parallel, not coordination) inability to articulate what they would do instead on these issues is a bit concerning.

          As for the deletion of my original comment – well that’s your prerogative.

  6. dirk 6

    Baron, activate brain – wanting a referendum isn’t the same as being against the proposed supercity and it certainly isn’t the same as being against any supercity. it’s a question of who should get to decide – some mp and his mates or the people of auckland

  7. Fran O’Sullivan made a lot of good points in her column. Many of the problems she referred to were real and on-going. many appear to equate “democracy” with the need for multiple local councils.

    I don’t .

    My submission to the Royal Commission was in favour of one Auckland PROVIDED there were at least 35 Councillors and and they were elected from multi-member wards (5 – 7 of them) using Single transferable Vote (STV). This would provide a single Council with representation on it of every significant community of interest in the wider Auckland area.

    We got the one Auckland, but they have gutted it of the democracy Auckland deserves.

    There isn’t much room for doubt that National is a fervent enemy of democracy. From the gutting of the RMA, to the proposed Auckland gerrymander, to the cutting of funding to bodies that aid accountability, to the coming campaign to dump MMP…….democracy is clearly the enemy as far as national is concerned.

    Dictators are OK as long as they are good dictators….When they go bad, there is no way to hold them to account short of a gun. National has never really understood that real democracy includes EVERYONE…..not just their cronies and club men.

  8. r0b 8

    Here’s a translation of Fran’s weasel words into English:
    ===
    Grassroots democracy has hardly served Aucklanders well. … The upshot of grassroots stirring is that Aucklanders miss out.

    Bloody proles don’t know what’s good for them.

    What is desperately needed is not more of the same but people with vision and courage who can lead Auckland – not hold it back.

    So they need to be told what to do by their natural masters (the people who pay my wages).

    The collapsed timeframe – one year instead of the four that the commission originally recommended – will no doubt be seized on by the critics as yet another example of the Government trampling over Aucklanders’ rights.

    We plan to trample all over Aucklander’s rights.

    But frankly, Key will be mindful that if the process takes too long, it simply gives more time for change to be derailed.

    So let’s get it done quickly before the morons notice.
    ===
    Shame on you Fran O’Sullivan, you hack shill. If National are so confident that their ideas are the right way for Auckland they should be confident enough to sell the story and put it to the vote. Ramming it through without the referendum required by law is a travesty.

  9. http://www.Things I Must Prepare For In My Lifetime.con

    Lord Mayor of Orcland Sir Rodney of LeafyEpsom

    Governor General Sir Jon Bjanks

    Special Raconteur to the United Nations Sir John Key

    Lead role as the Narrator in the Taihape Rep production of The Rocky Rocky Road Show Mr Winston Peters.

  10. Pascal's bookie 10

    “Sir Jon Bjanks”

    Gold.

  11. BLiP 11

    Fran – the National-voters’ Sarah Palin.

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Wetlands and waterways gain from 1BT funding
    The Government will invest $10 million from the One Billion Trees Fund for large-scale planting to provide jobs in communities and improve the environment, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor and Forestry Minister Shane Jones have announced. New, more flexible funding criteria for applications will help up to 10 catchment groups plant ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago
  • New fund for women now open
    Organisations that support women are invited to apply to a new $1,000,000 fund as part of the Government’s COVID-19 response. “We know women, and organisations that support women, have been affected by COVID-19. This new money will ensure funding for groups that support women and women’s rights,” said Minister for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • Govt supports King Country farmers to lift freshwater quality
    Healthier waterways are front and centre in a new project involving more than 300 King Country sheep, beef and dairy farmers. The Government is investing $844,000 in King Country River Care, a group that helps farmers to lift freshwater quality and farming practice, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced today. “Yesterday ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Support for arts and music sector recovery
    A jobseekers programme for the creative sector and four new funds have been set up by the Government to help our arts and music industry recover from the blow of COVID-19. Thousands of jobs will be supported through today’s $175 million package in a crucial economic boost to support the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Legislative changes to support the wellbeing of veterans and their families
    Minister for Veterans Ron Mark has welcomed the First Reading of a Bill that will make legislative changes to further improve the veterans’ support system.  The Veterans’ Support Amendment Bill No 2, which will amend the Veterans’ Support Act 2014, passed First Reading today. The bill addresses a number of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Christ Church Cathedral – Order in Council
    Views sought on Order in Council to help fast track the reinstatement of the Christ Church Cathedral  The Associate Minister for Greater Christchurch Regeneration, Hon Poto Williams, will be seeking public written comment, following Cabinet approving the drafting of an Order in Council aimed at fast-tracking the reinstatement of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New Zealanders’ human rights better protected in new Bill
    The law setting out New Zealanders’ basic civil and human rights is today one step towards being strengthened following the first reading of a Bill that requires Parliament to take action if a court says a statute undermines those rights. At present, a senior court can issue a ‘declaration of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Deep concern at Hong Kong national security legislation
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters today reiterated the deep concern of the New Zealand Government following confirmation by China’s National People’s Congress of national security legislation relating to Hong Kong. “New Zealand shares the international community’s significant and long-standing stake in Hong Kong’s prosperity and stability,” Mr Peters said. “New Zealand ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government invests in New Zealand’s cultural recovery
    Thousands of artists and creatives at hundreds of cultural and heritage organisations have been given much-needed support to recover from the impact of COVID-19, Prime Minister and Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Jacinda Ardern announced today. “The cultural sector was amongst the worst hit by the global pandemic,” Jacinda ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Better protection for New Zealand assets during COVID-19 crisis
    Key New Zealand assets will be better protected from being sold to overseas owners in a way contrary to the national interest, with the passage of the Overseas Investment (Urgent Measures) Bill. The Bill, which passed its third reading in Parliament today, also cuts unnecessary red tape to help attract ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Cleaning up our rivers and lakes
    Setting higher health standards at swimming spots Requiring urban waterways to be cleaned up and new protections for urban streams Putting controls on higher-risk farm practices such as winter grazing and feed lots Setting stricter controls on nitrogen pollution and new bottom lines on other measures of waterway health Ensuring ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Record year for diversity on Govt boards
    The Government is on the verge of reaching its target of state sector boards and committees made up of at least 50 percent women, says Minister for Women Julie Anne Genter and Minister for Ethnic Communities Jenny Salesa. For the first time, the Government stocktake measures the number of Māori, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • New appointments to the Commerce Commission
    The Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister and Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media Minister, Kris Faafoi, has today announced the appointment of Tristan Gilbertson as the new Telecommunications Commissioner and member of the Commerce Commission. “Mr Gilbertson has considerable experience in the telecommunications industry and a strong reputation amongst his peers,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Historic pay equity settlement imminent for teacher aides
    The Ministry of Education and NZEI Te Riu Roa have agreed to settle the pay equity claim for teacher aides, Education Minister Chris Hipkins announced today. This will see more than 22,000 teacher aides, mostly women, being valued and paid fairly for the work they do. “Teacher aides are frontline ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Govt delivers security for construction subcontractors
    Subcontractors will have greater certainty, more cashflow support and job security with new changes to retention payments under the Construction Contracts Act says Minister for Building and Construction, Jenny Salesa. A recent review of the retentions money regime showed that most of the building and construction sector is complying with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • New Zealand and Singapore reaffirm ties
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong have marked the first anniversary of the New Zealand-Singapore Enhanced Partnership with a virtual Leaders’ Meeting today. The Enhanced Partnership, signed on 17 May 2019, provides the framework for cooperation across the four main areas of trade, defence and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • JOINT STATEMENT BY THE PRIME MINISTERS OF NEW ZEALAND AND THE REPUBLIC OF SINGAPORE ON THE FIRST AN...
    On 17 May 2019, New Zealand and Singapore established an Enhanced Partnership to elevate our relations. The Enhanced Partnership – based on the four pillars of trade and economics, security and defence, science, technology and innovation, and people-to-people links – has seen the long-standing relationship between our countries strengthen over the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government investment supports the acquisition of new Interislander ferries
    State-Owned Enterprises Minister Winston Peters has welcomed KiwiRail’s announcement that it is seeking a preferred shipyard to build two new rail-enabled ferries for the Cook Strait crossing. “This Government is committed to restoring rail to its rightful place in New Zealand. Bigger, better ships, with new technology are yet another ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Better protection for seabirds
    Better protection for seabirds is being put in place with a new National Plan of Action to reduce fishing-related captures, Fisheries Minister Stuart Nash and Conservation Minister Eugenie Sage announced today.   The National Plan of Action for Seabirds 2020 outlines our commitment to reduce fishing-related captures and associated seabird ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Milestone in cash flow support to SMEs
    Almost $1 billion in interest-free loans for small businesses More than 55,000 businesses have applied; 95% approved Average loan approx. $17,300 90% of applications from firms with ten or fewer staff A wide cross-section of businesses have applied, the most common are the construction industry, accommodation providers, professional firms, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government protects kids as smoking in cars ban becomes law
    Thousands of children will have healthier lungs after the Government’s ban on smoking in cars with kids becomes law, says Associate Minister of Health Jenny Salesa. This comes after the third reading of Smoke-free Environments (Prohibiting Smoking in Motor Vehicles Carrying Children) Amendment Bill earlier today. “This law makes it ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Parliament returns to a safe normal
    The special Epidemic Response Committee (ERC) has successfully concluded its role, Leader of the House Chris Hipkins said today. The committee was set up on 25 March by the agreement of Parliament to scrutinise the Government and its actions while keeping people safe during levels 4 and 3 of lockdown. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Foreign Minister makes four diplomatic appointments
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters today announced four diplomatic appointments: New Zealand’s Ambassador to Belgium, High Commissioners to Nauru and Niue, and Ambassador for Counter-Terrorism. “As the world seeks to manage and then recover from COVID-19, our diplomatic and trade networks are more important than ever,” Mr Peters said. “The ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New Bill to counter violent extremism online
    New Zealanders will be better protected from online harm through a Bill introduced to Parliament today, says Internal Affairs Minister Tracey Martin. “The internet brings many benefits to society but can also be used as a weapon to spread harmful and illegal content and that is what this legislation targets,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Mycoplasma bovis eradication reaches two year milestone in good shape
    New Zealand’s world-first plan to eradicate the cattle disease Mycoplasma bovis is on track the latest technical data shows, says Agriculture and Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor. “Two years ago the Government, DairyNZ and Beef + Lamb New Zealand and industry partners made a bold decision to go hard and commit ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New payment to support Kiwis through COVID
    Further support for New Zealanders affected by 1-in-100 year global economic shock 12-week payment will support people searching for new work or retraining Work programme on employment insurance to support workers and businesses The Government today announced a new temporary payment to support New Zealanders who lose their jobs due ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • PGF reset helps regional economies
    The Provincial Growth Fund will play a vital role in New Zealand’s post-COVID-19 recovery by creating jobs in shorter timeframes through at least $600 million being refocused on projects with more immediate economic benefits, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has announced. The funding is comprised of repurposed Provincial Growth ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government exempts some home improvements from costly consents
    Government exempts some home improvements from costly consents Homeowners, builders and DIYers will soon have an easier time making basic home improvements as the Government scraps the need for consents for low-risk building work such as sleep-outs, sheds and carports – allowing the construction sector to fire back up quicker ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Concern at introduction of national security legislation for Hong Kong
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters says the New Zealand Government has reacted with concern at the introduction of legislation in China’s National People’s Congress relating to national security in Hong Kong.  “We have a strong interest in seeing confidence maintained in the ‘one country, two systems’ principle under which Hong ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Samoa Language Week theme is perfect for the post-COVID-19 journey
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio, says the theme for the 2020 Samoa Language Week is a perfect fit for helping our Pacific communities cope with the unfolding COVID-19 crisis, and to prepare now for the journey ahead as New Zealand focuses on recovery plans and rebuilding New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Adult kakī/black stilt numbers soar
    A nearly 40-year programme to protect one of New Zealand’s most critically endangered birds is paying off, with a record number of adult kakī/black stilt recently recorded living in the wild, the Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage announced today. “Thanks to the team effort involved in the Department of Conservation’s ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Waikato-Tainui settlement story launched on 25th anniversary of Treaty signing
    The story of the Waikato-Tainui Treaty process and its enduring impact on the community is being told with a five-part web story launched today on the 25th anniversary of settlement, announced Associate Arts, Culture and Heritage Minister Carmel Sepuloni. “I am grateful to Waikato-Tainui for allowing us to help capture ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Taita College to benefit from $32 million school redevelopment
    Taita College in the Hutt Valley will be redeveloped to upgrade its ageing classrooms and leaky roofs, Education Minister Chris Hipkins announced today. “The work is long overdue and will make a lasting difference to the school for generations to come,” Chris Hipkins said. “Too many of our schools are ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Redeployment for workers in hard-hit regions
    The Government is allocating $36.72 million to projects in regions hard hit economically by COVID-19 to keep people working, Economic Development Minister Phil Twyford and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. Projects in Hawke’s Bay, Northland, Rotorua and Queenstown will be funded from the Government’s $100 million worker ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • $35m to build financial resilience for New Zealanders
    A $35m boost to financial capability service providers funded by MSD will help New Zealanders manage their money better both day to day and through periods of financial difficulty, announced Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni. “It’s always been our position to increase support to key groups experiencing or at risk ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New District Court Judge appointed
    Dunedin barrister Melinda Broek has been appointed as a District Court Judge with Family Court jurisdiction to be based in Rotorua, Attorney-General David Parker announced today. Ms Broek has iwi affiliations to Ngai Tai. She commenced her employment in 1996 with Scholefield Cockroft Lloyd in Invercargill specialising in family and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • $206 million investment in upgrades at Ohakea Air Force Base
    The Coalition Government has approved a business case for $206 million in upgrades to critical infrastructure at Royal New Zealand Air Force Base Ohakea, with the first phase starting later this year, Defence Minister Ron Mark announced today. The investment will be made in three phases over five years, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Review of CAA organisational culture released
    Transport Minister Phil Twyford today released the Ministry of Transport’s review of the organisational culture at the Civil Aviation Authority. Phil Twyford says all employees are entitled to a safe work environment. “I commissioned this independent review due to the concerns I had about the culture within the CAA, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New Board appointed at Stats NZ
    Ensuring that Stats NZ’s direction and strategy best supports government policy decisions will be a key focus for a new Governance Advisory Board announced today by the Minister for Statistics, James Shaw. The new Governance Advisory Board will provide strategic advice to Stats NZ to ensure it is meeting New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New Principal Environment Judge
    Environment Judge David Kirkpatrick of Auckland has been appointed as the Principal Environment Judge, Attorney-General David Parker announced today.  Judge Kirkpatrick was appointed an Environment Judge in February 2014. From December 2013 to July 2016 he was Chair of the Auckland Unitary Plan Independent Hearings Panel. Prior to appointment he ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago