Green Party: COVID-19 recovery and investment in people and nature

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1. barry 1

   27 April 2020 at 9:04 am

   Fully agree.

   We need a long term approach to keeping people employed in the regions. It will also maintain a population to help pick fruit and do other seasonal work (so long as they pay enough to make it worthwhile).

   There is certainly a huge backlog of environmental tasks to do that have been neglected due to DOC's focus on making money.
   • weka 1.1

     27 April 2020 at 10:31 am

     That's a good point about seasonal work. Lots of people I've known over the years choose to do seasonal work because they want that lifestyle. They want to work half the year and then have the other half off to play, and they're often highly mobile around that.

     The trick is going to be creating conditions so that those who are not mobile eg families, can stay in one place and make a decent living. That was hard for a lot of people before, now is a good time to change that. Put people in the centre and design new systems out from what they and their communities need. Economics should serve the people not use them.
     • Rosemary McDonald 1.1.1

       27 April 2020 at 12:19 pm

       There needs to be major investment in family friendly housing in those regions formally reliant on overseas swish -bangers to pick the fruit.

       It will not be acceptable to have families forced into 'green' work zones if there is insufficient accommodation.

       Also, I'd personally like to see the NZ Standard for the Management of Agrichemicals become an enforceable, a truly enforceable rule book. Talking with horticultural workers…there are some growers who give not a shit if their workers are exposed to chemical nasties. They are going to bugger off back to Germany or Vanuatu…who monitors any adverse effects?

       I am hoping that Kiwis obliged to do this work will be proactive and demand safe working environment. If growers are also obliged to hire Kiwis, they might be less inclined to treat workers like disposable commodities.

       Also, could the Greens please dig up and dust off the Agrichemical Trespass Bill?

       Nanaia did pull it out as a private members Bill back in 2008(?) but rumour had it the industry managed to quash it.

       Now is the hour.😉
       • gsays 1.1.1.1

         27 April 2020 at 3:59 pm

         One way to deal with both concerns; how to have horticultural work pay enough to support a family and dealing with chemicals, is Organic Aotearoa by 2025.

         Soil health at the heart of all decisions.

         It leverages off our 'green' image while at the same time helping restore the whenua to it past prime.
       • weka 1.1.1.2

         27 April 2020 at 4:23 pm

         Ironically covid might be solving the housing crisis as well. If we are smart about it.
2. greywarshark 2

   27 April 2020 at 10:38 am

   Extensive post – very informative and practical. Just what NZ needs. It must be done says this concerned citizen – concerned with people, stability, basic standards for all etc. Not with feeding money into corporations that play with us like coloured tokens on a Monopoly Board. Go to the grassroots, and go the family farmers, and the regions with their small but very important projects, if they can be seen to be effective and pay off within a few years. Grander ones can bloody well wait.
3. Maurice 3

   27 April 2020 at 10:44 am

   Tax Farmers and other rich people to pay for this!

   Capital Gains Tax and Wealth taxes will generate billions after the economy begins recovery and present depressed valuations begin climbing again.
   • weka 3.1

     27 April 2020 at 11:02 am

     lots of farmers who aren't particularly rich, so I would see it more being about taxing the wealthy and the polluters/extractors.
   • bwaghorn 3.2

     27 April 2020 at 11:12 am

     It might surprise you to know farmers actually pay tax .

     I know who woulda thunk it!!!
     • Sacha 3.2.1

       27 April 2020 at 11:25 am

       Also up to their ears in debt pushed by banksters.
       • bwaghorn 3.2.1.1

         27 April 2020 at 12:49 pm

         The one thing that needs fixing is that there is no incentive to pay debt . As debt reduction is taxed yet paying interest isn't.

         Seems rigged to me .
   • Nic the NZer 3.3

     27 April 2020 at 12:59 pm

     The ideal spending strategy for the government is to balance spending (across the whole economy) against capacity of the economy to produce (largely available workers). Since the country is facing considerable unemployment, taxation is not needed at this time to implement this program. If the Green party gets it into a government budget the program will be funded.
   • greywarshark 3.4

     27 April 2020 at 3:21 pm

     Maurice at 3 Wants to go back to BAU – I think it's situation hopeless getting people to see we were bad before so don't want to continue that.

     Uncertain and afraid
     As the clever hopes expire
     Of a low dishonest decade:
     Waves of anger and fear
     Circulate over the bright
     And darkened lands of the earth,
     Obsessing our private lives;…

     Faces along the bar
     Cling to their average day:
     The lights must never go out,
     The music must always play,
     All the conventions conspire
     To make this fort assume
     The furniture of home;
     Lest we should see where we are,
     Lost in a haunted wood,
     Children afraid of the night
     Who have never been happy or good.

     W.H. Auden RIP
     http://www.poemdujour.com/Sept1.1939.html
4. Sacha 4

   27 April 2020 at 11:24 am

   Crucial point about our public investment options:

   Investing in nature-based jobs can see meaningful jobs created more quickly than spending on big infrastructure like new motorways. Most of the funding will go directly to employing people – the tools needed for wetland restoration such as spades and seedlings are far cheaper than big excavators and asphalt.

   The group who lose out by NZ not prioritising road-building projects are financiers.
5. bill 5

   27 April 2020 at 4:13 pm

   Still wanting to order and manage nature then? And still throwing 'administration costs' money at top/down organisations? And still peddling the lie about decarbonisation?

   Nature does just fine when left the fuck alone. Hierarchical workplaces are sooo yesteryear (and fucking suck) – as does clearing gorse and tree planting in the cold and wet btw.

   Maybe we should all be paid to walk outside and clap all the good work of be-suited virtue signalers? Actually. I'll do it for free, but it will be a slow clap.

   We can get things going again, create jobs, AND decarbonise. = business as usual b.s.
   • common sense 5.1

     27 April 2020 at 8:18 pm

     Bill , funny,accurate

     Greens are detached and delusional.. there will be no green party after this election..

     I love the environment , I love nature and do my best to do my part but ideas like this is why everyone is over the greens. That was one of the lamest pitches ive ever seen.

     We need a new green party , one that is realistic not full of great ideas and bullshit.

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