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How bloody marvellous

Written By: - Date published: 7:30 am, August 7th, 2015 - 102 comments
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102 comments on “How bloody marvellous ”

  1. millsy 1

    This feels so right.

    Onya Campbell.

  2. Ffloyd 2

    Best news ever. Bet bill English will get a bit sniff. Didn’t he say RNZ is a dinosaur. Expect to see the knives out. I was really pleased to see Anna Burns-Francis, ex Clive reporter on One. She is a great reporter. A REAL one. Hope to see the rest of the team somewhere, soon.

  3. Ffloyd 3

    Sniffy!

  4. Puckish Rogue 4

    The market has spoken

    • Tracey 4.1

      i see cdwm has appalling ratings.

    • adam 4.2

      You keep bringing up market PR, I don’t see any markets? Me thinks you need to look at the economy again, and see the distortions.

      • Puckish Rogue 4.2.1

        Well the market spoke and Campbell made his way back to radio nz, seems pretty cut and dry to me

        • adam 4.2.1.1

          Me thinks you don’t understand economics.

          • Puckish Rogue 4.2.1.1.1

            What I mean was TV3 didn’t want him, Prime didn’t want him, TVNZ didn’t want him so hes gone to the only place that does want him is publicly funded radio NZ

            • ropata 4.2.1.1.1.1

              agreed, the anti democratic corporatocracy doesn’t want someone like Campbell messing up their plans to parcel up NZ and sell it off to vulture capitalists

  5. Graeme Stanley 5

    Listened to John Campbell being interviewed in the foyer of Radio New Zealand and couldn’t help but feel inspired by the passion this guy holds for his craft.Looking forward to a New Format.

  6. Tiger Mountain 6

    excellent, much better than John Campbell disappearing into one of those Radio live style swamps where journalism consists of steam vents and the occasional mud bubble

    the RNZ Board “will not like it up ’em” but a future campaign must be to end the sinking lid on funding for Radio New Zealand, particularly if ratings rise with Campbell’s arrival

  7. JanM 7

    Yeah! I’ll miss his smile though

    • Lanthanide 7.1

      They’re doing some mixed-media thing like the Paul Henry show, although I think it will be streamed on the internet rather than on TV, since they don’t (yet) have their own television station.

    • Hami Shearlie 7.2

      Me too – He is an all around great man, our John Campbell!

  8. saarbo 8

    I’ve got to say that RNZ has really got its shit together with its afternoon line up now. I used to switch to Hauraki at times but no need now . Jesse Mulligan and JC are enlightened changes.
    Maybe that Paul Thompson does know what he’s doing after all.
    Now he needs to ask Espiner and Ferguson to get tougher on Teflon John and all will be good.

    • Lanthanide 8.1

      Just get rid of Ferguson. I’m often rolling my eyes at her silly “gotcha” questions that usually backfire on her.

      This morning was another poor showing from her, interviewing a guy from the police, who several times answered “you’ll have to ask corrections about that”. Asking questions that as soon as I heard them, I knew the police guy would not answer because it wasn’t his jurisdiction, or she was asking a question that would literally compromise the investigation they were discussing had he answered it, or effectively asking for a personal opinion on corrections operations. Shockingly bad.

      Any question you ask an interviewee when they respond with “I can’t answer that” – where that response is predictable before the question is asked – is almost always a waste of interview time.

      • dukeofurl 8.1.1

        Most of the questions are pre prepared. She doesnt have to use most of them and follow up questions are expected based on answers.

        Sounds like she was being lazy and just following the script, no expertise, like you have said about ‘worthless questions’ , and getting to the heart of the matter.

        In reality it was scripted as a say 3 minute slot which had to be used no matter what. They may as well asked him when his birthday was ?

      • Hami Shearlie 8.1.2

        Replace Ferguson with Kim Hill or Linda Clark and RNZ would be nigh-on perfect.

        • JanM 8.1.2.1

          Now there’s a thought – Linda Clark – another thoughtful, intelligent interviewer who knows how to be tough but stops short of nasty – like Mihinirangi Forbes – I miss her too

          • Lanthanide 8.1.2.1.1

            Forbes is making quite a few appearances on Morning Report these days; obviously not as the presenter but as a reporter for a segment.

            Be nice to ditch Ferguson and replace her with Forbes.

          • D'Esterre 8.1.2.1.2

            @ JanM: not Linda Clark for my money. But Kim Hill would be great: she was terrific on Morning Report back in the 90s. Although she probably wouldn’t want to take on that gig long term nowadays.

            But I’d really like Mihingarangi Forbes to be more involved with Morning Report; she’s got chops an an interviewer.

      • Saarbo 8.1.3

        Yes, listened to the same interview…I agree.

        Forbes needs to be added to Prime time.

  9. Observer (Tokoroa) 9

    Good news. Intelligent and humane, John is a rarity in media.

    The broken disreputable Nats will avoid him. But the Nats will keep slobbering all over the John Armstrongs and the ungifted Editors of the Auckland newspaper.

    The raspy Nine to Noon will feel challenged – with its cozy lil book reviews for girls and ungroovy bits of mostly junk music (No Classics No Jazz, No theatre). Plus its unseen big studio-wide banner: “Vote for Auckland Vote for National”.

    • dukeofurl 9.1

      Nine to Noon is the last remnant of the women centric morning radio. Aunt Daisy to Ryan is a distinct link.
      Ask yourself , has there ever been a male host for Nine to Noon?

  10. roy cartland 10

    It’s good for sure, but not at the expense of Mary Wilson. Why not Jim Mora who has to get bumped? Back into the afternoon snooze hour.

    • Morrissey 10.1

      Mora is lightweight, and not up to the job of interviewing politicians. Mary Wilson made the likes of Gerry Brownlee and Bill English uncomfortable, and often angry. She’s been kicked upstairs where she can’t do any more harm.

      • Lanthanide 10.1.1

        Mary didn’t earn the nickname ‘Scary Mary’ for nothing.

        One problem with her is that she generally used the same interview style, no matter who it was she was interviewing – a cop, a politician, or a businessman in charge of a company that had done something wrong.

        It often came across as badgering/hectoring and abrasive.

        • JanM 10.1.1.1

          I agree – she didn’t let people get away with nonsense, but her tone was so glacial and negative that I would end up feeling sorry for even the worst of her victims. I sometimes had to turn her off because I would start to feel physically sick. Too much like my teacher in Primer 4, perhaps 🙂

          • dukeofurl 10.1.1.1.1

            You are right , there was no nuance in her style.

            You can be tough and still show warmth- not easy though.

            I thought the talk was it being a duo . Scary Mary and Cuddly John with lots of Seven Sharp banter ( the good stuff not the inanity)

          • Bearded Git 10.1.1.1.2

            @janM
            Disagree. Mary Wilson is a great interviewer but at the same time often shows a sense of humour. They should have kept her on air.

            While it is marvelous John C is back the Nats will actually be breathing a sigh of relief.

            • JanM 10.1.1.1.2.1

              I think their sighs will be misplaced – carrots and sticks? I suspect JC will increase the audience by quite a margin – not everyone is into blood sports – me for one!

    • Tracey 10.2

      oh cant bump mora or the panel cant dominate

  11. ianmac 11

    Roll out the good times.

  12. Rosie 12

    Bloody Marvellous!!! I reckon! It was so good to hear his voice again on the RNZ news yesterday. All is not lost after all 🙂

    I only listen to RNZ for news in the morning and late arvo. It’s Radio Active and sometimes Concert FM during the day. But now I will be tuning in for John Campbell, or more likely watching the livestream.

    Welcome back JC. Onya!

  13. John Shears 13

    Observer “Vote for Auckland Vote for National”. really ? a banner in the Wgtn Studio whats that all about?
    Comparing Ryan with Daisy Basham is a bit droll the only similarity for me is that they both speak quickly but Aunt Daisy was clear and legible, of course she was also on the ZB network not Nat Radio.

    • greywarshark 13.1

      Ryan has to cover a wider variety of items in more depth than Aunt Daisy did. Stop this mean put-down of a very good interviewer.

      • Anne 13.1.1

        I agree greywarshark. She’s a first class interviewer and she has a nice puckish sense of humour. I don’t always agree with her take on things but hey… what a boring world if we all agreed all the time.

  14. Rosie 14

    Oh, and Campbell Live’s old spot of 7pm week nights on 3, I will continue to boycott. Will not be watching that right winger Garner.

    “There’s two sides to every story”. Right. When an individual or a community is powerless there isn’t a flip side, a bright side or an all together easy way to explain away their struggles as being their own fault. When a quarter of our kids live in poverty their is no “other side of the story” for them. Same for the children growing up in the Gloriavale compound, or any one of Campbell Live’s stories about power and abuse.

    JC highlighted this power struggle between haves and have nots and told the story for what it was. It seems they are trying to bring that idea of “balance” into the new show as they (tv3 management) didn’t like JC’s advocacy style. It’s like they’re aiming to cleanse their programming free of any trace of compassion.

    • stigie 14.1

      Rosie, the show was not balanced, showing too much doom and gloom putting a lot of people off, hence the show being canned because of poor ratings.

      • Rosie 14.1.1

        That “doom and gloom” stigie, is reality. Fine if you want to turn a blind eye but many of us can’t, either because we live it, or actually care about the society we live in.

        Campbell Live also aired stories about successes in life, like over coming the odds and managed to raise a huge amount of money for people who needed, for example,medical assistance and couldn’t get it. They did a lot of those positive stories over the years.

        There also had some great achievements like uncovering the abuses at Gloriavale and helping those who escaped, triggering the move to get the All Blacks to Samoa and campaigning hard around zero hours contracts.

        So not all doom and gloom.

  15. shorts 15

    fantastic news

    Though I do worry that the only media voice of reason and holding power to account will soon be exclusively housed under one roof – a roof totally beholden to govt funding

  16. weka 16

    Excellent. Now someone decent just needs to give the White Man Behind a Desk a job.

  17. Gosman 17

    How did this get by the politically biased and corrupt upper management of RNZ? /sarc

    Perhaps this will stop silly accusations of political interference in the editorial policy of … oh wait a moment. What am I stating. Of course this will make no difference to many of your paranoid delusions.

  18. Liam 18

    I really wish John Campbell well at Radio Norwich.

    “Morning, Susan. Marvelous!”

    • greywarshark 18.1

      What’s Radio Norwich?

      • ropata 18.1.1

        Probably a zealous autocorrect of “NZ” on someone’s phone

        • greywarshark 18.1.1.1

          ropata
          Really? How funny. I am becoming luddite about all these palm devices so not up with the play.

          • lprent 18.1.1.1.1

            I didn’t know that palm devices were still being produced?

            But hey, I never have been a student of obsolete technology.

            But I am in the market for a new 7″ jeans pocket size Android tablet to replace my current Nexus7 2012 and 2013. Both are starting to wear out at the switches from over-use. Ideally I’d like a new Nexus 7 for continued development work. The Nexus 6 maybe. Nexus 9 would require a handbag to carry – which I would both find is nuisance and would certainly lose.

            Or another nexus 7… Looks like they are getting hard to find. Ummm Asus ME572CL with 4G perhaps..

            BTW: I’m completely uninterested in Samsung devices. They put so much crap on top of android and you can’t clear them out without completely reloading the device with a standard version – which then drops massively in performance because of driver issues. Just junk for a programmer.

            • Draco T Bastard 18.1.1.1.1.1

              They put so much crap on top of android and you can’t clear them out without completely reloading the device with a standard version

              I’d heard that they’d stopped doing that but apparently it was only a rumour. It’s got to be one of the stupidest moves I’ve ever seen and it’s not limited to just Samsung either. Make a fantastic device and then kill it dead with bloatware.

              My S2 is doing bloody well now that I’ve put Cyanogen Mod on it. About 100% faster and it doesn’t appear to have any driver issues either.

              For my next device I may go for an Ubuntu.

            • ropata 18.1.1.1.1.2

              have fun shopping, lprent… the nVidia Shield 8″ tablet could be worth a look

  19. Nessalt 20

    Have to agree with Rachel Smalley on this one. It’s just another rich middle class white male fronting for what passes as current affairs.

    • JanM 20.1

      I really do disagree – I think the quality of his empathy with people of all stripes – his aroha, if you like, rises above the distinction of his sex and race. He is quite a rare mortal, really.

      • Nessalt 20.1.1

        how does a bring a fresh angle to the current affairs landscape? His ratings were slipping for a reason and i think part of that reason is his homogeneity. Sure, he is streets ahead of hosking and henry but that doesn’t mean that the profile of current affairs shows is appealing to those looking for a properly fresh take on current affairs.

        Mihiriangi Forbes could easily have fronted this new venture and could attracted a larger following that campbell over time. Campbell is more likely to provide a ratings bump then slide of into obscurity a la Mora.

        the female line up on RNZ has always provided a stronger backbone and larger teeth because they’ve been given the room to move and have had little managerial oversight. In other words the most has been made of the opportunity by females. Campbell has had this opportunity for years through his privileged place in society and has taken it for granted again and again.

        • weka 20.1.1.1

          RNZ has a general problem around class despite it’s strong women staff. I’d put that significantly above gender issues in this case. I agree about Forbes. But the problem with women broadcasters is the other radio stations not RNZ.

        • Colonial Rawshark 20.1.1.2

          His ratings were slipping for a reason and i think part of that reason is his homogeneity. Sure, he is streets ahead of hosking and henry

          Now let’s get serious here: Campbell had lost more ratings than Hosking and Henry could ever hope for getting themselves.

          A branding refresh and a spunky new co-presenter to bounce discussion off and Campbell would have been sky high again.

          • Nessalt 20.1.1.2.1

            Your right about the ratings. but saying that all poor John needs is some poor female hired to laugh at his jokes and to give vital moral support is a put down to all the capable female journalists who try so hard to get ahead in their careers despite the entrenched privilege of the ruling media elites.

            • Ergo Robertina 20.1.1.2.1.1

              It’s not as simple as that. NZ’s biggest print media outlet Fairfax has an overwhelming preponderance of senior female execs in news management but that hasn’t resulted in quality or advocacy journalism.
              Campbell Live was the only media that closely followed the Kristine Bartlett gender equity pay case. It also highlighted the Caring Counts aged care pay exploitation report.
              Its work on zero hours contracts was important too – the effects of insecure work fall disproportionately on women.
              I don’t think Campbell’s quite the right fit for the Checkpoint slot, but that has nothing to do with gender.

            • JanM 20.1.1.2.1.2

              Exactly – if there’s one thing that really raises my feminist hackles it’s the admiring female off-sider “dressed by —” who laughs feebly and protests coquettishly at all the drivel spouted by the likes of Mike Hosking – straight back to the 50s – ugh!

      • Bearded Git 20.1.2

        @JanM

        Yes but Campbell and Wilson working in tandem on air would have been perfect. Key/Joyce/English probably vetoed this in the smoke-filled rooms.

        • Puckish Rogue 20.1.2.1

          🙂

        • ropata 20.1.2.2

          Yes they were probably following the advice of the hooded figure they had conjured within the pentagram after they had sacrificed a goat and chanted ancient blasphemies… 😉

      • Puckish Rogue 20.1.3

        “Can’t you see he’s the man, let me hear you applaud he is more than a man he’s a shiny golden god”

  20. Not so great – I tend to agree with Smalley on this — another chance missed to get the REAL Aotearoa on the airwaves instead of disaffected uk imports and hanger ons.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/70918281/extremely-disappointing-rachel-smalley-on-john-campbells-new-role

  21. Bob 22

    That’s disappointing! Was hoping TVNZ might finally ditch Hosking and bring JC on board! Oh well, looks like I’ll be pinning my hopes on Jack Tame to finally get Hosking off the airwaves.

  22. greywarshark 23

    John C sounded very enthused when I heard him interviewed yesterday about the new move to Radionz.

    And Mary Wilson is going here –
    But at the moment, the audience RNZ does have after 5pm listens to long-established two-hour news show Checkpoint.
    In a move overshadowed by the John Campbell announcement, Checkpoint host Mary Wilson has just been appointed Radio New Zealand’s Director of News Programming – a role overseeing RNZ news on radio and online.

  23. Detrie 24

    Most forget that John did the RNZ Sat morning interviews slot many years back and was superb. Good interviews with heart. Miss his smile? No reason RNZ couldn’t do selected video interviews pushed online or via their good mobile app later. Radio has come a long way.

  24. BLiP 25

    Yep, good work Radio New Zealand and, yep, I’ll be tuning in.

    No comment on the gender equality issue.

    That thrown-together Mediawatch segment is great. I was chuckling away to myself thinking how ironic to hear John Campbell go on and on about “journalism” in what was really a puff piece to announce his arrival. But Colin Peacock did his usual excellent job and raised some less than comfortable questions for Radio New Zealand going forward.

    The shift to Auckland, for example, is a worry. John Campbell seems to think its a good thing because, chances are, more Aucklanders will engage which means a larger overall audience and, well, gosh-darnit, Radio New Zealand deserves a larger audience. Fair nuff, I suppose. But it doesn’t feel right. John Campbell, IMHO, should be broadcasting from Wellington if there is a genuine attempt at Radio New Zealand to hold government to account.

    I reckon its also a bit of a slap in the face to the Wellington audience.

    Not too sure about the “internet – radio” fusion. I suppose with all the kool kids now on devices, Radio New Zealand has no choice but to reach out to them. Hopefully this doesn’t mean a downgrade in content because, like or not, most of the kool kids, especially in Auckland, don’t really care about anything much. With all that the internet has to offer media consumers, to get the attention of a particular audience requires click-bait.

    Hopefully, the arise of a visual component to the Radio New Zealand experience doesn’t also herald a commercial approach. I can’t quite see John Campbell’s studio filled with product placements or hear him reading out some native advertising, but I can see certain segments or even entire programmes brought to you by . . .

    • gnomic 25.1

      Grrrr !!! You mentioned those bloody smartphones, the ruin of the internet, and perhaps even the human race. Anyone else noticed that every news source in the universe has lately been ‘optimised’ for blasted devices with tiny screens on which it is more or less impossible to read any extended passages of text? No wonder the average IQ and attention span are declining rapidly.

      What this really betokens is the end of free to air broadcast radio, mark my words.

      • ropata 25.1.1

        Socrates was right. Innovations like writing have ruined civilization!

      • BLiP 25.1.2

        . . . Grrrr !!! You mentioned those bloody smartphones, the ruin of the internet, and perhaps even the human race. Anyone else noticed that every news source in the universe has lately been ‘optimised’ for blasted devices with tiny screens on which it is more or less impossible to read any extended passages of text? No wonder the average IQ and attention span are declining rapidly . . .

        Horrible things should be banned as a public menace. No wonder these days the government isn’t still banging on about giving everyone ID cards. Instead, everyone voluntarily carries something which tells the world who they are, where they are, who they are with, and what they are most likely doing.

    • greywarshark 25.2

      @ BLIP
      “most of the kool kids, especially in Auckland, don’t really care about anything much. ”
      I worry about the snippets of PR from Radionz. The fact that they have set a target of one million (or about) listeners by a certain time concerns me. The people should be encouraged to listen, but not by adopting commercial come-ons like the hated banter about clothes or as the other day, with Guyon and Susie I think, about the best Bond character. WTF!

      I hate these absolute targets – what happens is quantity counts most, not quality and satisfactory growth in listeners. Targets should be banned as inhuman.

  25. Mike the Savage One 26

    Separate the wheat from the chaff, an old, even bliblical saying goes. We see it at work now, the last humble bastion (not a perfect one by any means) of public broadcasting is like a Noah’s Arch it seems, that will rescue and help survive the ones, that will one day again replenish the wider media landscape, once we got rid of that nasty flood of commercialisation, commoditisation, that “whoredom” of MSM media (excuse abusing the word) really.

    http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/separate+the+wheat+from+the+chaff

    Good on John, I think you may have found the place where you can do well, and will stay in touch with us, same like “Mihi” from Maori TV, another broadcasting station also gradually succumbing to the sell-out dictatorship this nasty government has turned this country into.

    Let us build on hope, and join the ranks, and turn RNZ into the wagon front to protect us from the hostile forces. The day will come, that the dark age that took over this country in 2008, will end!

  26. geoff 28

    John Key will be lovin this news!

    His most popular and vocal liberal-leftie opponent is now neatly contained in a bubble that has near zero reach to apolitical swing voters.

    • gnomic 28.1

      Ummm, got a link for that or is it your opinion?

      • geoff 28.1.1

        A link?
        So you can read someone elses opinion?

        Yea it’s my opinion based on observations of John Key getting ripped up for shit-paper by Espinor on multiple occasions and it having zero effect on Key’s popularity.
        And if Key thought it was damaging to his rep he wouldn’t continue with the regular Monday morning appearances.

        Key uses the slot to practice running his lines, finding his own weak spots and being able to say that he doesn’t avoid media critical of his governance.

        RadioNZ is merely Key’s sparring partner to keep him match fit for the TV news.

        • BLiP 28.1.1.1

          Do you actually listen to Radio New Zealand?

          • geoff 28.1.1.1.1

            Yes Blip I do, nearly every day, it’s my default station.

            I’m not criticising RNZ, it has good content and good journalism (compared with corporate media) but on this particular point about Key’s approach to RNZ and RNZ’s limited reach to apolitical, swing voters…..tell me how I’m wrong

            Get Campbell to DJ on the edge, filling the ears of the clueless morons with his reporting. That might be useful.

            Of course they’d prob just switch channels to more fm then…

  27. Binders full of women 29

    So John Key squeezed John Campbell out of a job at a private company (because he was too lefty & critical) — and now Key has employed Campbell at a State broadcaster…. is it to muzzle him? So confusing 🙂

  28. philj 30

    Just returned from a break in Australia. Their public media, TV and radio is miles better than what we receive in NZ. We don’t realise howfar we have fallen. And no amount of self promotion that RNZ is great will convince me that we have a quality Public Broadcaster. The funding freeze is really showing now imo.

  29. Smilin 31

    Yippee National is going to get its fascist back side bitten about time
    Try and screw it this time with your Dirty Politics , Keyglish your days are numbered

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