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Hypocrisy-watch

Written By: - Date published: 6:24 pm, December 6th, 2013 - 85 comments
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  1. mickysavage 1

    I am Key’s age and I was at university the same time as him. I can vividly remember the events of that year and how it tore the country apart. For Key to say that he does not recall means either that he has suffered a significant brain injury or he is telling fibs.

    His subsequent comments are well unbelievable. He shows the emotional makeup of a reptilian …

    • rhinocrates 1.1

      I remember that year very well myself. I was in high school at the time and was pretty disgusted by fellow students making excuses like “there have been changes in South Africa”.

      My father, who had represented NZ playing rugby in the late 40s and early 50s (in the Kiwis, not the All Blacks, since he was a League player) opposed the tour in the end because it was “tearing the country apart”. Not, I must emphasise, because of “those damn protesters”, but because he put our national unity ahead of rugby.

      I’ve friends in Britain, and they’re pointing out the hypocrisy of Key’s clone, Cameron: in the 80s, he was a member of a student organisation campaigning to have Nelson Mandela executed as a terrorist and wore “Hang Mandela” badges.

      It’s impossible for one to forget what happened or how one felt. Key is a lying scumbag (wow, that’s news, isn’t it?!). I’ll be ashamed to have him as our representative at Nelson Mandela’s funeral.

    • Martin 1.2

      I am one year younger and I can remember too but then I was on the frontline.I can also remember the Victoria Uni contingent that joined us on the May 1 mobilization. They were a sight to see.
      As for John Key, maybe some things are best left unsaid.

  2. fender 2

    Sounds just like John Banks doesn’t he, just as convincing.

  3. Phil jones 3

    John key is our dear leader, how dare you doubt him, hang your head in shame. Four more years boys, four more years ( of national )

  4. Anne 4

    Should anyone be surprised? Key has psychopathic tendencies. They are very good at faking emotions.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 4.1

      Dont debase the word pyschopath. Key isnt even a sociopath. He may politically be a smooth operator but he otherwise is fairly normal. He has a stable family life and a successful international business career- not just fanciful claims.

      The main point about Key “forgetting” his political views back then, allmost certainly untrue as we DO KNOW he has long had an ambition to enter politics. A true sociopath would invent some political views that suited the current views today.

    • rhinocrates 4.2

      I disagree – he is terrible at faking emotions. 🙂

      • Anne 4.2.1

        You’re right rhinocrates. It’s just we have a lot of idiots who can’t see he’s faking… 🙁

        I would have more respect for him if he was honest and admitted… that he hadn’t really cared one way or the other in 1981 but he supposed he was more pro the tour than anti the tour. Since then he’s changed his mind and realised the anti-tour people were right.

        Bolger is big enough to do it but not Key.

        • felix 4.2.1.1

          Even Ross fucking Meurant of all people is big enough to admit he was wrong about the tour.

          Not our Key though. That places him on the continuum of fuckwittery, don’t it?

  5. Phil jones 5

    Now everybody say it with me,
    I love john key our best ever pm.
    Four more years, yeahaa

    • fender 5.1

      There’s a kid up ^ at 3.0 with the same name and eager anticipation for reaching teenagehood . Any relation?

  6. irascible 6

    To declare, Key did, that the occassion of the State Funeral for Nelson Mandela, deserves his attendance as NZ’s only credible representative reeks of cynical arrogance and hypocrisy especially as Key has been. like Colin Craig and John Banks, existing in a state of experiential denial of events leading up to and including 1981.

    • North 6.1

      Give the representation some stuff reflecting a living on of Nelson Mandela’s wairua.

      Key has the balls to acknowledge and invite John Minto to travel with him – both representing Aotearoa New Zealand ?

      Be absolutely wonderful if he did. It would be stature Prime Minister !

  7. merkin 7

    amorality is the name of the game don’t you know. Our bankster PM is what we deserve. The passionless people maaate. all that political malarky is a bit gay aye. Have a few bevy mate, beat the wife, buy some shares in a soe our parents and grandparents built. it’s all about me. i’m a winner and all those wingers are losers. john key mate, he’s a god. burn in hell all those who don’t believe. the gospel according to Key and TPP. Nooooooooo future (ff to 4 minits)

  8. Nordy 8

    It’s a very ‘convenient’ line to spin to the media/public – I can’t really really remember.

    What is also revealing is the way Key’s story changes the further he is questioned……not unlike his more recent fibs, lies and fabrications.

  9. Will@Welly 9

    I made a comment on the page “Death of Nelson Mandela”. John Key going to the funeral is an insult, both to those who opposed apartheid, and to the man himself. If he had come out and said earlier that he was a member of the National Party and he was pro-tour, then people would have at least understood that, even if you didn’t agree with his stance. But coming out and saying “I can’t remember” is rubbish. There were numerous people who supported the tour, mainly because they wanted to see the rugby played. Many later regretted their stance. But not John Key.
    Personally, I think John Minto and Trevor Richards should be in the vanguard of those leading the representation from this country, along with other leaders of the anti-apartheid movement.
    Politicians going is just a junket – very few in Parliament today were there doing “the hard yards” when the tour happened, or when we marched in the streets.

    • Craig Glen Eden 9.1

      I agree W@W send the people who led from the front people like John Minto should be sent to represent NZ not some bloke who say’s he couldn’t remember his position on the tour.No one seriously believes that spineless lying Key. If Key goes its the ultimate insult to a guy who literally was prepared to die for what he believed in. I say know to Key going to the funeral.

    • chrissy 9.2

      Will@Welly

      Absolutely agree that John Minto should be there. He was one of the one’s that drove this protest so therefore would be one of the people that Mandela would have been most appreciative of. Key in all of those news clips was left floundering as usual wondering how to couch his answers in such a way that he would be able to negate anything that he said at a later date to suit the current political climate. In a novel I recently read they referred to a politician as an *everyman*. It seems to me that Key is that man. *Whatever it takes* is his mantra. I used to be proud to be a New Zealander, now I feel that we are a laughing stock of the world knowing that key will genuflect in front of anyone who asks something of him even if is detrimental to NZ. We are unfortunate enough to have the only pm in the world with*made in the usa*

  10. Ake ake ake 10

    Cheers for that clip. Played it ‘blind’ to some folks who don’t know much about John Key or NZ politics, or politics generally event.
    I asked the question: what do you think of this person’s response?
    Answers given: he is lying.

  11. BrucetheMoose 11

    It is infuriating that we as tax payers should be paying for this vile two faced charlatan to go to the funeral of Nelson Mandela. Everything that Mandela was and stood for, Key is absolutely not.

  12. Brian 12

    He will have forgotten all about it by monday.

  13. North 13

    Man that video at the John Key vasectomy part is hellish

    You gotta watch it.

    Henry can be hilarious when he’s not being a fuck so it’s a limited season obviously.

  14. happynz 14

    In the first interview in that clip Key sounds crocked. Talking shit with your mates at the pub is one thing, but boozy slurred evasive responses during an interview on the radio is embarrassing.

  15. Morrissey 15

    Humbug Corner
    

No. 22: BARACK OBAMA

    “WE HAVE LOST ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL, COURAGEOUS, AND PROFOUNDLY GOOD HUMAN BEINGS THAT ANY OF US WILL SHARE TIME WITH ON THIS EARTH. HE NO LONGER BELONGS TO US – HE BELONGS TO THE AGES.”

    
—-Barack Obama, New Zealand Herald, Saturday 7 December 2013, page one.

    Humbug Corner gathers, and highlights, the most striking examples of faux solicitude, insincere apologies, and particularly stupid recycling of official canards. It is produced by the Insincerity Project®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

    “L’hypocrisie est un hommage que le vice rend à la vertu.”
—-François de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims

    More humbugs, mostly half-witted….
    No. 21 Chris Laidlaw: “I asked him if, with the recent birth of the British royal baby, there was just the slightest tinge of regret that they had got rid of the French monarchy?”

    No. 20 Nevil Gibson: “Well, everybody’s getting richer.”
    
No. 19 Byron Bentley: “He is a great guy, a good man … very caring…”
    
No. 18 Rachel Smalley: “…heartbreak all over NSW as Queensland wins the deciding State of Origin!”

    No. 17 Jay Carney: ““He is not a human rights activist, he is not a dissident.”
    
No. 16 Barack Obama: “I wish Muslims across America & around the world a month blessed with the joys of family, peace & understanding.”


    Open mike 11/07/2013


    
No. 15 John Key: “They know this is an issue of national security…”

    No. 14 Charles Saatchi: “I abhor violence of any kind against women…”


    No. 13 Toyota New Zealand: “The more Kiwis that lean, the more motivated our ETNZ crew will be to win.”


    No. 12 Pem Bird: “We’re there to do the business of advancing our people.”


    No. 11 Whenua Patuwai: “They’re my brothers and to see one of them goes [sic]—it’s tough.”


    No. 10 [REMOVED]
    


No. 9 [REMOVED]
    



No. 8 Barack Obama: “…people standing up for what’s right…yearning for justice and dignity…”



No. 7 Barack Obama: “Nelson Mandela is my personal hero…”



    No. 6 John Key: “Yeah well the Greens’ answer to everything is rail, isn’t it.”
    
No. 5 Dr. Rodney Syme: “If you want good, open, honest practice, you have to make it transparent.”




    No. 4 Mike Bush: “Bruce Hutton’s… integrity beyond reproach…such great character…”




    No. 3 Dean Lonergan: “Y’ know what? The only people who will mock them are people who are dwarfists.”




    No. 2 Peter Dunne: “What a load of drivel and sanctimonious humbug…”
    





No. 1 Dominic Bowden: “It’s okay to be speechless.”



  16. appleboy 16

    I couldn’t help but notice the contrast yesterday between Helen Clark’s interview with Garner with her reflections on Mandela, and John Key trite superficial scripted lines he gave to the media.

    Helen spoke with passion and eloquence, Key sounded like he was just spouting a few cliches the speech writer drummed up.

    Makes me realise what we lost and what a lightweight chump we gained.

  17. tricledrown 17

    Key re whites hisSTory!
    With all the Fuck ups poncKeys
    Govt has made and have been exposed recently an oversea junket with photo ops pure genious!

  18. tricledrown 18

    muldoon is Keys idol.
    So therfore key was for the 81 tour .

  19. Morrissey 19

    Spitting on his grave
    The 5 most hypocritical Mandela eulogies by Israeli politicians

    ‘First get yourself a sick bag, then read these eulogies to Nelson Mandela from Israel’s leadership – some of them the very people who cultivated close ties to the bitter end with South Africa’s apartheid regime, and all of them presiding over the Israeli version of apartheid.’ — Jonathan Cook

    http://972mag.com/the-top-5-most-hypocritical-mandela-eulogies-by-israeli-politicians/83109/

    • Martin 19.1

      How could those pukes even dare?

      oh shit! where’s the sick bag?

    • swordfish 19.2

      Precisely. Most leading South African anti-apartheid campaigners have pointed to the striking similarities between pre-1990 SA and Israel in the Occupied Territories.

      With the treatment of Palestinians and other minorities within Israel-proper bearing more than passing resemblance too (albeit\ a little less blatantly).

    • Wayne 20.1

      Do you really think that President Obama is being hypocritical. Surely of all the current global leaders, Mandela would have inspired him in a very tangible way. It is easy to forget what an extraordinary achievement that Obama’s election represented.

      And as with Mandela, the realities of office have tempered Obama’s vision. Nelson Mandelda did not try to turn South Africa into a socialist paradise. He knew that way would lead to Zimbabwe. Reconciliation has been his great legacy, when others would have gone down another path.

      Similarly Obama has had to deal with the real world. But he did end the war in Iraq, he has achieved a level of stability in Afghanistan. He is building a nuclear deal with Iran, which could yet be his highest foreign policy success. And if he succeeds in Iran, he will be strenghtened vis a vis Israel and Palestine

      • felix 20.1.1

        lol

      • Anne 20.1.2

        I think Wayne has made some good points.

        While their is valid reason to question some of his actions, it is unthinkable that Obama – a fellow descendant of Africa’s indigenous people – would not have been deeply inspired by Mandela. We have seen many examples where the realities of the American presidency has prevented Obama from achieving his goals. His attempts to change the health care system and make it available to the poorest Americans springs to mind.

  20. Plan B 21

    Morrissey
    Helen Clark was on the same side as Mandela. Key supported the people who put him in prison. He still does.

    Not to pick on Morrissey, only that he is a representative example of the mood of the comments. Only I think that to understand JK you have to go at it from another perspective – his – to actually understand. He was I think telling the truth when he spoke in that first clip. Maybe hard for many people here to get but . He did not care at the time, he was not interested. He does not care now either only his job requires of him to say certain things so he says them. He has always been about the money nothing else. He is fine with equality with gay marriage with anything you want or don’t want. They only thing he is actually interested in is the money. There is nothing else going on.

    • Will@Welly 21.1

      So true. Key is a gutter rat of the first degree.

    • Wayne 21.2

      Plan B

      If your proposition was really true, he would not have gone into politics. He could have stayed in the global finance sector and made much more money. He had shown he had exceptional skills for that, and in a sector which is highly competitive. He was at a senior level in a global firm, and had he stayed would have continued to progress. There were great riches to be made from 2001 to 2008 if he had stayed in.

      He turned his back on that prospect.

      So your analysis simply does not stand up. He returned to NZ for a reason, and that was not to make more money.

      Whether you like it or not, he believes he can make NZ better. Obviously not to a Left prescription, but one that he believes lifts New Zealand’s success internationally.

      As for going to South Africa, do really think it would sensible for the New Zealand Prime Minister not to attend. The South African government would take that as an insult and a snub. Given our history, hardly a good space to be in.

      • greywarbler 21.2.1

        Wayne
        It looks quite grand on your CV to show that you have been Prime Minister of a country. What do you give somebody who’s got everything? The Prime Ministership. And you get your picture in all the papers of a tiddly. little country that is becoming smaller every moment that he lets out a mining or other contract or his myrmidons do.

        Have you thought of that aspect – Mr Sensible that’s you, doesn’t have flights of fancy that require imagination perhaps.

        • Wayne 21.2.1.1

          I am sure he likes being PM

          • North 21.2.1.1.1

            Key likes or doesn’t like being PM. So what ?

            What’s that got to do with anything vaguely germane Wayne ?

            Your observation approximates utterly inane “Questions For Oral Answer” verbiage. Clearly you haven’t stopped being a National Party cabinet minister with a well thumbed copy of the Crosby Textor Bullshit Manual tucked under your arm.

            I’ve not a smidgeon of respect for your staged “reasonable man” carry on. You’re here not for reason or for care for New Zealand and it’s people. You’re here essentially for self , viz. John Key, the National Party, targeted privilege, and the fashioning of the rest of us as servants more or less of all three.

            Pretty disgraceful really. All the more offensive for the glib delivery.

      • Plan B 21.2.2

        I think that the revolving door will be fully functional and when JK leaves politics he will re- enter the world of banking at a much higher level than that at which he left. So I do not think it inconsistent. Of course I am speculating.
        On the matter of why he is in politics, I think the money thing still stands, look at what he is prepared to expend political capital on, what he is interested in. It is money, finance- selling stuff keeps him on the radar, doing his job. No one he is interest in knowing cares about any of the other stuff

  21. Rogue Trooper 22

    Meanwhile, (back in Gotham) , when a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the day-light, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs”. The Doctor- 12:1-

    “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets’.- Lots of somilar material in Matthew, 23.

    The Middle East was preserved from the scourge that is Tui PIA at that time so, “mud in your eye’ will have to do. 😀

  22. I look forward to someone asking Dear Leader,

    “So, Mr Key, what did you do in 1981 to oppose the Springbok Tour?”

  23. joe90 24

    Appropriate.

    Dear revisionists, Mandela will never, ever be your minstrel. Over the next few days you will try so, so hard to make him something he was not, and you will fail. You will try to smooth him, to sandblast him, to take away his Malcolm X. You will try to hide his anger from view. Right now, you are anxiously pacing the corridors of your condos and country estates, looking for the right words, the right tributes, the right-wing tributes.

    http://www.okwonga.com/?p=869

    https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F123549937&show_artwork=true

  24. Lindsey J Rea 26

    We should send the leaders of the anti apartheid and anti-tour movement like Andrew Beyer, John Minto, Trevor Richards and Marx Jones. The people who were on the right side at the time. Not these history re-writing, revisionist tories.

  25. gobsmacked 27

    I totally support Key going to the funeral, provided he takes – as a gift from “Middle New Zealand”, one of those golliwogs that have been in the news.

    According to yer typical “PC gone mad” talkback callers and National voters, those gollies are not racist, they’re just cute, so nobody in South Africa could possibly object. He should hand it over to Mandela’s widow, and pose for the cameras.

    Then run like hell.

  26. Draco T Bastard 28

    “The Right Wing’s Campaign To Discredit And Undermine Mandela, In One Timeline”

    Seems like the RWNJs are still up to their old tricks.

  27. Paul 29

    Follow Mandela’s example, and roar with laughter at all this rightwing fawning

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/06/follow-nelson-mandela-laugh-rightwing-fawning

  28. karol 30

    John Key’s old firm, Merrill Lynch, settled out of court in the US to avoid going to trial for racial bias in its organisation. This was the US: Key worked for Merrill Lynch in Singapore and London, during the late 1990s.

    The case was an eight-year battle over why black brokers composed fewer than 2 percent of Merrill’s full brokers and generally had smaller books of business. Merrill argued that, in essence, society was the problem—that white brokers had access to more wealth because they had larger social networks of well-to-do potential customers, who in turn were more likely to invest with brokers who are similar to themselves.
    […]
    After years of legal losses for the plaintiffs, in 2012 the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals sided with McReynolds and found that the black brokers did face companywide policies that had the potential to be discriminatory, which made the group worthy of class certification. (The judges didn’t rule whether the policies were in fact unequal—that’s something that would be fought over in trial.) A trial date was set for early 2014, and the two sides began settlement talks.

    The settlement approved today provides for $160 million to be divvied up among the 1,400 black brokers in the class, making it the largest cash award in a racial bias employment case. It also created a host of programmatic changes, including adjustments to how the firm distributes accounts to trainees and creating new coaches for black brokers. The efforts will be overseen by a committee of black brokers, including those who were involved in the suit. McReynolds expects to be on the committee in its first year.

    The institutional racism goes back to the 1980s and earlier.

    “I’ll give you as much time as you want,” George McReynolds drawls, leaning back in his chair in his Nashville office. That, he says, has been his philosophy during the 30 years he’s worked as a financial adviser at Merrill Lynch. At 69, he’s a slow-and-steady kind of guy: He’s lived in the same home for almost four decades; he never takes his tan Chevy Malibu over the speed limit.

    But McReynolds couldn’t wait forever to be treated equally by his employer. Over the years at Merrill—he started there in 1983—McReynolds had gotten used to inequities small and large. With only a few fellow black brokers in the Nashville office, he felt isolated. Often excluded from work social events, he took to eating lunch at his desk; if he was out, he says, the receptionist sometimes told callers he didn’t work there. He also noticed that the other African American financial advisers at Merrill were rarely top producers—meaning they generated less business than their white colleagues—though they seemed to work as hard as everybody else.

  29. rhinocrates 32

    Hooton attempts to make Mandela’s death an opportunity to rebrand himself with a long, rambling, self-obsessed autohagiography.

    http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-mandela/?i=0#replies

    Have a sick bag ready.

    • Rogue Trooper 32.1

      well purged; dear oh dear.

      • rhinocrates 32.1.1

        While I love the civility and erudition of PA, sometimes they’re so damn, stiflingly polite that they’ll naively accommodate a pathological liar like Hoots just because he makes nice gestures. Meanwhile, I just want to throw up.

  30. rhinocrates 33

    The Two Ronnies… ah yes, nostalgia. Right, really good night.

  31. TightyRighty 34

    Watching holden and quantas crash to the ground, we should all watch and remind ourselves the dominant role that unions and labour governments played in their demise.

  32. Disgust 35

    Dimwit the word that applies to autocrats like Key who is too ignorant to have any kind of soul about Mandela or the guts to actually stand up for what he should believe that apartheid was and is wrong
    M

  33. Disgust 36

    Dimwit the word that applies to autocrats like Key who are too ignorant to have any kind of soul about Mandela or the guts to actually stand up for what he should believe that apartheid was and is wrong
    Nelson Mandela was the greatest man since Gandhi & Churchill as a leader for freedom.
    Maybe its because most of Keys life he has lived in the european world that still treats Africa as a slave colony ,They steal their oil what else can u say
    Key has no shame, a tory prick.

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