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8:53 am, November 28th, 2012 - 111 comments
Categories: climate change, disaster, john key, leadership, national - Tags: doha climate talks, turn down the heat, world bank
Earlier this month yet another report on the looming catastrophe of climate change was published. What was particularly notable about this one was that is was from the World Bank (not exactly a hotbed of lefties or environmentalists). The report is called “Turn Down The Heat: Why a 4°C Warmer World Must be Avoided” (home page, full pdf, press release). From the press release:
Turn Down the Heat, a snapshot of the latest climate science prepared for the World Bank by the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) and Climate Analytics, says that the world is on a path to a 4 degree Celsius (4°C) warmer world by end of this century and current greenhouse gas emissions pledges will not reduce this by much.
“A 4 degree warmer world can, and must be, avoided – we need to hold warming below 2 degrees,” said World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim. “Lack of action on climate change threatens to make the world our children inherit a completely different world than we are living in today. Climate change is one of the single biggest challenges facing development, and we need to assume the moral responsibility to take action on behalf of future generations, especially the poorest.”
The report says that the 4°C scenarios are potentially devastating: the inundation of coastal cities; increasing risks for food production potentially leading to higher under and malnutrition rates; many dry regions becoming dryer, wet regions wetter; unprecedented heat waves in many regions, especially in the tropics; substantially exacerbated water scarcity in many regions; increased intensity of tropical cyclones; and irreversible loss of biodiversity, including coral reef systems.
“The Earth system’s responses to climate change appear to be non-linear,” points out PIK Director, John Schellnhuber. “If we venture far beyond the 2 degrees guardrail, towards the 4 degrees line, the risk of crossing tipping points rises sharply. The only way to avoid this is to break the business-as-usual pattern of production and consumption.”
The report notes, however, that a 4°C world is not inevitable and that with sustained policy action warming can still be held below 2°C, which is the goal adopted by the international community and one that already brings some serious damages and risks to the environment and human populations.
“The world must tackle the problem of climate change more aggressively,” Kim said.“Greater adaptation and mitigation efforts are essential and solutions exist. We need a global response equal to the scale of the climate problem, a response that puts us on a new path of climate smart development and shared prosperity. But time is very short.”
Further quotes, and one of the critical graphs, are discussed at Hot Topic, and as ever see The Guardian here.
It is in this context that that the latest range of climate talks, at Doha, are taking place. Yet another vital opportunity where the “leaders” of the world will promise to do too little, too late, and then not live up to their promises. But even in this depressing company, New Zealand stands out as a worst example, as NRT reports:
Climate change talks are starting in Doha, and New Zelaand has already won a “Fossil of the Day” award on the first day:
The First Place Fossil is awarded to USA, Canada, Russia, Japan and New Zealand for running away from a legally binding, multilateral rules based regime…
The Second Place Fossil is awarded to New Zealand. Unlike its neighbor to the west, New Zealand decided not to put its target into the second commitment period, citing spurious grounds when the reality is that it is just a massive display of irresponsibility. It’s island partners in the Pacific should think again before ever trusting NZ again.
First-equal and second. Heckuva job you’re doing there, National. Way to go with upholding our international reputation and our “100% pure” branding.
With its head deep in the rapidly warming sands, John Key and the National government have been rolling back climate change measures. We are not even “fast followers”, we are stand-out obstacles to progress, and subject to international ridicule. On climate change they have made me ashamed to be a New Zealander. They shame us all as a nation.
At what point can we begin to hold accountable those corporates and their pet deniers who’ve spent the last decade obfuscating and delaying action?
A decade ago the challenge was probably solvable; now it’s all going to come a terrible price. Any way of sending the bill to the people who have caused this?
That depends. It took a while for the tobacco companies to be held accountable too.
One of the forecast outcomes of the Greenhouse Effect is social and political instability. In a potentially volatile future, who knows what sanctions may eventuate.
Indeed. At the very least all they’re doing is putting off the bill until their companies go bankrupt trying to pay it once the reality of climate change is clear. One way or another, the people who are actually causing climate change will foot the bill- I see no reason not to pay it now and avoid the “interest”, ie. damage to the climate we all share.
Hmm. If the survival of the species is threatened, and given that worst-case scenarios are increasingly validated by events, I think it is more likely that the sanctions will be random and punitive, rather than just or useful.
The more time marches on the more I hold to my belief that climate extremes will render the problem (of increased emissions) moot.
I’m ashamed you are a New Zealander too.
The second commitment period is a joke, with the ammount of countries who are not signing up or the ones that are claiming 3rd world status and planning to polute like bastards. This multi lateral beast is never going to work and NZ has intelligently decidied that the best way it can fight climate change is by working with sensible like minded countries to reduce emmisions.
Trying to make out that NZ has all of a sudden decided that it will not be reducung its emmissions because it has pulled the pin on this shambles is totally disingenous.
Key government = eco-cowards, subservient to the wishes of the USA and Canada who wanted company for their amoral stance.
Yes, even with fellows in obstruction like Japan and Russia (in a rare moment of agreement, wee) they really needed tinynowhereland for cover? There seems to be a recurring theme that when it’s your fault it’s always really someone else’s. How delightfully National-y.
Personal responsibility means it’s always someone else’s fault. I blame the parents.
To be clear, what I mean is that Key & Co. aren’t doing this to cozy up to the USA or whatever other country one might care to mention. That’s blame-shifting nonsense.
NZ govt. is catering to domestic interests who are against it, period – just like every other obstructor country.
Have to concur with KK’s sentiments here – Quoting a WB Group President hardly lends credibility to this piece.
The question really becomes – How is the global cartels (yes they are all the same people), grip on the planet going to be broken, so that the continued destruction/pollution does not continue unabated?
Answer: Only when people accept the forces which are in control, and respomd accordingly, even then given the technology/system in hand, could that make much differnce.
Hey but don’t worry The Greens will save NZ, The Greens will save NZ, The Greens will save NZ..
PS – R0b, never let others relieve you of your pride, and be carful about what else pride can represent!
@Muzza Have to concur with KK’s sentiments here – Quoting a WB Group President hardly lends credibility to this piece.
That is because you have a comprehension failure. The WB president hasn’t pulled the conclusions out of a hat, they’re not his personal discoveries.. the WB commissioned a report….and wait for it….it was written by scientific experts on climate, working in fields completely disengaged from the routine financial sector that you seem to believe have no credibility.
No, The World Bank as zero to little credibility, hence it matters not what level the information JKY delivers has in terms of factual, “agreed” scientific correctness, lies or otherwise!
Thats where your comprehension/understandings fall apart!
Earth to Muzza: the World Bank’s credibility is irrelevant, since the study rests on the credibility of it’s authors: The Potsdam Insitute for Climate Impact Research.
No doubt you will now explain that the PICIR is an Illuminatii front.
The World Banks lack of credibility is relevant, given they represent the catel who can’t wait to get those nice (broadened/fattened) global environmantal taxes / ETS rolling into the coffers…
Oh wait on, thats already happening..
Does the WB give a toss about the envrionment, I would suggest not, its part of the cartel, like the UN, IMF, WTO, WHO, UNESCO (pick an acronym), they care only about control!
So its relevant, you’re just flapping around as usual missing the connection thinking how they care about you or anyone else, they don’t…SNAFU
“…thinking about how they care about you…”
Your strawmen are lumpy and misshapen: not up to the usual wingnut standard. Fail.
So Ummm just exactly where is all the trillions of dollars going then One Tane Huna?
and just how is all that money being used?
This relates to the PICIR’s credibility how? Your red herring is floating belly up. Looks serious.
OTH… if you don’t know, just say you don’t know. Its ok… really it is (Group hug??).
I don’t know either, given the sums involved and the size of the problem don’t you think we should know… Don’t you think that we should be able to see transparancy, the money should be being used to subsidise green tech etc. But is it!?!
PP, you are the one making the allegations – not me – how about you cite the information your “opinion” is based on, and then show me how it relates to the PICIR’s credibility.
Hint: it doesn’t. I have made precisely zero claims about the ETS et al on this thread, but if you are so avid to hear my opinion I have expressed it on others. Perhaps you should try searching, or no, screw it, I’ll do it for you:
So you see, you haven’t got a clue what I think, so why not try expressing your own thoughts instead of failing to articulate mine, eh?
OTH – are you for real. My first post was asking you a genuine question – you failed to answer it and still have so here it is again because you obviously missed it.
Where does all the money go?
again if you don’t know, its ok, I don’t either……..
But again don’t you think we should?
Lastly just for clarification it doesn’t relate to PCIRs credibility. It relates to the credibility of the entire Kyoto agreement!
All the money for what? I repeat: you are the one making allegations. Cite some sources.
I’m sorry you have mistaken me for a defender of whatever the pain in your mind is, but that’s not really my problem, is it?
Oh, and you think I’m going to “answer” your “questions”? I repeat:
“ETS: I share your suspicions, but I note that “cap and trade” policies helped improve US air quality.”
Can you get a grip on that or will you simply put some more words in my mouth?
as but one example….. had Canada stayed with Kyoto and had to pay this sum where would the money have gone.
The fact that you share my concern with ETS is good. I don’t know whether I’d support any future govt resigning up to the scheme unless the question of ‘where the money goes’ can be answered and then through transparancy we can see that it is in fact going where it is supposed to be and that the destination is a project that will help absorb or reduce CO2 emissions significantly.
I realise that this site can be adversarial in threads at times, but that was not my intention with this question. I see many people on here supporting Kyoto but not being able to answer this simple question.
Another question to think about is was it Cap and Trade that resulted in air quality in air quality improvements in the US or was it skyrocketing gas prices causing people to drive less and move to smaller more efficient vehicles? or was it some other factor or combination of factors and Cap and Trade was just a coincidence. If it was – great bring it on …..but with transparency.
I thought your question deserved an answer. H eres where some of’ ” the trillions go ” (how I wish it was trillions-but no, ,just a few thousand dollars). here in new zealand we have 750 hectares of regenerating indigenous forest. We have locked it up to store carbon in the forest. This means we can no longer farm it and instead we are awarded carbon credits to sell.We have to look after the forest, spray the weeds, insure the carbon and replace it (if we lose any of the carbon already sold , by fire , snowstorm, wind etc)
So there you go, we are farmers and we also farm “carbon’ and get paid to do so.
Come and see it if you like!
From someone who thinks the insurance industry will direct progress (guess who owns the insurance industry), I would say that there is a bad case of head in sand for you as usual Bloke!
“Direct progress”? Get a clue, you lying tosser; here’s what I actually said: “…the actions of the insurance companies are the least amateurish and ineffectual to date.”
There are a lot of people that still need to ‘awaken’. many many people still believe in/can’t let go of the old patterns and system and will even fight for it. Good to see that you have and more and more people are :).
Remember this will be one of the hardest places for people to wake up as many are politically minded, have University degrees and still believe (like a christian fundamentalist believes in god) in the system and that the current system will be able to provide the solution. Luckily there are many on here who are very intelligent and know that significant change is required and that the system is in fact a massive part of the problem!
If it doesn’t change I’m pretty sure an increase of 4degrees will sort the problem out over time and balance will be restored ….overtime.
Indeed. In the order of tens (possibly hundreds) of thousands of years.
Still just the blink of an eye in the bigger scheme of things……
Muzza, You still don’t understand.
Here are the experts that you, in your ignorance, dismiss :
(HT – http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2012/11/22/climate-change-deniers-dont-understand-expertise/ )
The world bank commissioned the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research and climate Analytics to prepare the report. The team of authors included:*
Professor Hans Joachim Schellnhuber: has been Director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) since he founded the institute in 1992. He is Professor for Theoretical Physics at the University of Potsdam and External Professor at the Santa Fe Institute, USA. Furthermore, he is Chair of the German Advisory Council on Global Change (WBGU).
Olivia Serdeczny: was born in 1982, has earned her MA Philosophy at the Freie Universität Berlin and currently works as a research analyst for Professors Schellnhuber and Rahmstorf at the German Advisory Council on Global Change to the Federal Government (WBGU). In summer 2011 Olivia spent two months with the Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research on board the research vessel Polarstern. She documented the cruise in several blog articles (all German)
Dr Dim Coumou: is a geophysicist by training, worked for a while as marine geophysicist in the offshore industry, before starting PhD research at ETH in Zurich. In Zurich, he worked on the development of efficient multiphase fluid flow transport schemes to study hydrothermal systems. More on hisPhD work can be found here and here.
In 2008, he joined PIK and is currently working on development of the atmospheric component of the next-generation Earth System model CLIMBER-3 (as part of PIK´s flagship project NEXT). This novel atmosphere model, Aeolus 1.0, treats the dynamical equations in a statistical way, which makes the model computationally very efficient compared to the more common general circulation type models. We can therefore study the sensitivity of atmospheric circulation to global mean temperature and other key parameters. Next, this newly developed model (a so-called Earth System Model of Intermediate Complexity – EMIC) should pave the way to efficiently study tipping elements in the Earth climate system, of which some could potentially cross a tipping point in the coming century due to anthopogenic forcings.
His recent work focused on the link between extreme weather events and global warming, which got some popular-media attention in e.g. WIRED and FOCUS (in german). And his scientific interests include climate dynamics, extreme events, global warming, complex earth system, hydrothermal and geothermal systems. Technical interests include parallel programming, C++, object-oriented design, etc, etc, etc…
Dr Katja Frieler: Her current research focus includesdevelopment of impact functions that allow for probabilistic projections of regional climate changes and changes in the occurrence of extreme events in terms of global mean temperature change (see PRIMAP).
Dr Maria Martin: Maria Martin’s research focuses on the Antarctic sheet-shelf system.With others she developed the Potsdam Parallel Ice Sheet Model (PISM-PIK), a derived class of PISM (UAF, Alaska). She took part in a scientific expedition to Antarctica Nov. 2010 – Feb. 2011. Maria Martin also is Research Analyst in the Director’s Office at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research from April to December 2012.
Dr Ilona M. Otto: specializes in institutional and political economy. She investigates coordination mechanisms for provision of public and common goods such as biodiversity and water. Currently she is working in the Project on Sustainable Water and Agricultural Land Use in the Guanting Watershed under Limited Water Resources (www.Guanting.de). Her research in the Project focuses on governance of water resources, socio-economic impacts of water scarcity, and evaluation of possible adaptation options that could lead to a more sustainable water use in the Guanting Watershed.
Mahé Perrette: Is a PhD student working on probabilistic sea-level projections, both a the global (with Stefan Rahmstorf) and regional (with Malte Meinshausen) scales. His current project consists in developing a model for the outlet glaciers / fjord system of the Greenland ice-sheet, for a better representation of ice/ocean interactions (with Reinhard Calov and Andrey Ganopolski). He is also generally interested in combining climate models with past and present-day observations to reduce uncertainty in future sea-level projections and works in the PRIMAP group, with Stefan Rahmstorf as main supervisor.
Dr Alexander Robinson: His main interest lies with studying the interactions between the Greenland Ice Sheet and the climate. He is now employed as a post-doctoral researcher in the Paleo Modeling and Analysis (PalMA) group at the Universidad Complutense de Madrid in the Department of Astrophysics and Atmospheric Science. Alexander is a guest scientist at PIK, collaborating with Andrey Ganopolski, Reinhard Calov, Stefan Rahmstorf, Dim Coumou and Anders Levermann, among others. In his Ph. D. work he, working with Andrey Ganopolski and Reinhard Calov, developed a simple regional energy-moisture balance model (REMBO) to produce realistic climate forcing and feedbacks over Greenland, given that warming in the future could drastically change the regional distribution of temperature and precipitation. The work was funded by the Marie Curie 6th Framework Programme and was a part of the Network for Ice sheet and Climate Interactions (NICE).
Jacob Schewe: researches in the areas of stability of monsoon circulations, global oceanic overturning (with Prof. Dr. Anders Levermann), and climate impacts (within the ISI-MIP project).
Dr Lila Warszawski: works on climate impacts and vulnerabilities.
*Want to find out more about these scientists – click on the links to get CVs, publication lists, etc.
[lprent: Shorter quotes please. The links to other sites should be sufficient. Your ‘job’ is provide enough information and your views to get people to click the link. It isn’t to demonstrate that you can cut’n’paste what is presumably copyrighted material on to our site. Don’t do it again.
In this case OP probably won’t mind so I will leave it up. And it reminds me to add OP to the live links. ]
lprent, sorry, I was unaware of the restriction so I won’t do it again, but please don’t condescend to know the reason I supplied the quote, it wasn’t to demonstrate C&P skills. Thanks.
[lprent: I always like being at least slightly nasty (and being condescending is a mere bagatelle to what I’m often like) if I have to write a note. It relieves my irritation at having to write it and serves a secondary purpose of encouraging people not to use up my time again in having to do it. Consider it to be a mild stick applied to someone who hasn’t read the site’s policy. ]
Shorter lprent: “I enjoy being a dick”
As have you
this post was titled ‘Ashamed to be a New Zealander’ reading between a few lines….
based on the current governments backing away from Kyoto commitments and statements made at yet ANOTHER talk on climate change
backed up by a report commissioned by the World Bank by a group of climate scientists
The fundamental question that needs to be asked is how does what ever we sign up to if we sign up affect climate change and the country?
If it goes to Green tech projects that reduce CO2 emissions or subsidise companies making green tech so industry can switch to green tech much faster or if it buys coal mines and decommissions them and so on and so on then all good sign us up.
If on the other hand there is no transparancy and no one knows where the money goes then no way, stop right there. find another solution and fast.
Put in place a straight out environmental or emissions tax that goes to giovernment coffers that can then be used to get the country out of debt and fund green tech research. This way businesses/individuals can avoid the tax by reducing their emissions and spending their money with businesses that enable them to do that. (alternatively get rid of capitalism and money and then money is no longer a barrier to shifting to low or zero emission technology whereever it is required but that is a step to far for many to get their head around).
Otherwise the money could be going anywhere. It could be going to the World Bank, It could be going into the pockets of shareholders with shares in Lockheed Martin or Halliburton, It could be going to Monsanto. It could be going to Big Oil, Big Pharma it could be going to some of the worst polluting companies on the planet and none of that in my book is acceptable.
Apart from the world bank where has this outfit got their funding from in the past?
What was their brief?
What was the methodology they used? was it impartial?
Thanks to people on this very site I now again believe climate change is real but that does not mean one should forge ahead with blind faith – Blind faith will not fix the problem. Action will and money going into a big black hole is NOT action.
“…where has this outfit got their funding from in the past?”
For fuck’s sake. Would it hurt you to do a simple Google search just once?
Don’t mention it.
It was more the point that people should ask more questions not just tke everything at face value.
Are you aware that one of the leading Eco Certifications in this country ( the one used by many of the hotels) is/was very reluctant to hand out the criteria for their certifications. Why? surely you would want customers to know what an outfit with your certification has achieved.
One hotel I know of wanted to get gold certification (they had silver) but the certification outfit couldn’t tell them what they needed to do additional to get gold.
Another hotel supposedly met bronze (still a good achievement from where they were) but complained so were given silver.
Some pockets of this industry is nothing more than marketing and green wash.
Wellington Combined Taxis achieved CarbonZero certification on the back of a policy to reduce fleet emissions and only allow certain low emission vehicles into the fleet – last year they quietly canned the policy and allowed any vehicles in.
and these are just a few NZ examples …… you know an honest country with very low levels of corruption. 😉
Riiight, so since something is dodgy, everything is.
I have a very very low tolerance for conspiracy theories.
PS: if you have specific allegations against the Potsdam Institute or any of its staff let’s hear them. Otherwise take your cynical innuendo and shove it.
No not everything is. but if you don’t question then you won’t know if something is or not – perhaps you prefer to run on blind faith for everything. Given what I have seen/experienced I now start to question a bit more.
Those examples I gave you were not ‘I hear about this from someone’ They are my direct experiences – This is an industry I m involved in. As someone in the industry I am saying people should question more – it is up to you and only you whether you choose to do so or not.
Perhaps you should remember to keep an open mind. But not so open your brain falls out.
My god. A first time for everything 🙂
Hope you two feel good about yourselves. You really show yourselves to be stellar human beings time and time again. let me guess late 20s early thirties University degrees and have convinced yourselves that yep you know everything! Thats ok you have the rest of your lives to start figuring out how little you really know. And boy your in for a shocker. I can only hope you get some lessons on how to play nicely with others. Iprent heres something for you to try – when you do you ‘moderator comments’ read them and put yourself in the shoes of the intended recipient, try to imagine how they will feel then remember how much hate and negativity is in the world already. Then accept that you are about to add in a little more hate – then hit submit
OTH you should do the same.
Lastl have a think about whether your approach to others gets us closer to the world we all want to live in or whether fuelling the hate keeps us right where we are now.
perhaps you guys are so invested in your belief in the current system that you prefer things to remain just the way they are….
[lprent: I always do read them before sending. But you really haven’t engaged your brain have you?
There are between 300 and 600 comments left here every day. Each note that I have to leave in a comment costs me precious minutes to write, check, and if required – to make deliberately nasty. Most of the time they would not be required if people had read the policy and had considered what they wrote in the light of probable moderator reactions *before* they wrote it.
The intent of deliberate nastiness in moderator notes is to encourage people to not do the things that require us to leave them. I take particular effort to make them memorable to the particular recipient so I don’t have to repeat the same thing too often. So just to encourage that statement to sink in….
Could you please make an effort to reduce your inate lack of self-awareness and think about why particular actions are taken. It’d make a pleasant change from seeing you as simply being a prancing pontificating dork with a limited ability to either use your intelligence or listen. Have a one week ban for both wasting my time and for trying to tell us how to run our site. ]
See Iprent it comes from living in the real world, working a full time job and running a company with a multi million dollar turnover. I have plenty of self awareness and especially on how my comments can make others feel. The point is you have a choice you can do a little to make the world a better place for everyone in it or you can choose to continue to feed your Massive Ego and continue to add negativity – clearly you choose the latter.
Look at my posts – I have made them without insulting anyone, without snide comments to try and belittle another poster and with an open mind ie, if I receive new information I can process it, put it in with the rest of what I know to be true and see if that changes things for me.
I am not some idiot who thinks he A has all the answers and B thinks he is gods gift to intelligent discussion because he has a university degree or a masters or a doctorate.
that said perhaps I was a little harsh toward you and it was more a response seeing yours in with OTHs 5Oth comment with a anide remark or insult at the end. Unfair probably so for that I apologise. I will take the one week ban
it would be good if you could let OTH know insults and snide comments are not a sign of intelligence and wit. They are in fact the complete opposite,
Good day to you sir.
PP, I bet you remember what I said too, but just in case…
Potsdam Institute credibility.
Concerns about ETS (especially in its current state of National Party mindless vandalism) despite apparent success of similar schemes.
Nah, I understand it pretty well actually thanks, its your comprehension, or perhaps missinterpretation of my earlier post which your’re not understanding – See below for explanation
I have dismissed the WB only!
Don’t come back with some other interpretation of what I said, I did not question the content or who had produced it, only the mechanism by which the article referenced, was delivered.
That would be the World Bank, which is a corrupted, broken cesspool, which supports the agenda of broken, corrupted, cesspools!
“This multi lateral beast is never going to work and NZ has intelligently decidied that the best way it can fight climate change is by working with sensible like minded countries to reduce emmisions.”
you stopped before the end of your sentnece
This multi lateral beast is never going to work and NZ has intelligently decidied that the best way it can fight climate change is by working with sensible like minded countries to reduce emmisions by waiting for the bigger polluters to stop first.
What measures are our Government planning KK?.
Just some thoughts:
Australia has signed up to Kyoto2. The main drivers of emissions now are China and India using coal. If Australia was serious about CC they would not dig up their huge reserves of coal and sell to China, so their stance is hypocritical.
CC is hitting the developed world now: The biblical drought in the US this year and the freakish heavy rainfall the UK has got through much of this year causing massive flooding, parts of the UK are looking like Waterworld!
Whatever NZ does, in my opinion won’t make any difference to CC it’s all set to go and tipping points are happening right now:
Probably Ice free Summer Arctic in a few years, Methane venting increasing in Siberia and methane clathrates also melting in the Ocean.
Some reputable persons believe CC could even lead to Human extinction, we have aroused a slumbering monster which was constrained by a delicate balance managed by Gaia, as Lovelock would say we have usurped Gaia’s climate regulation role and innocently freed this unstable monster. Lovelock believes we are heading for a new stability point of Hot Earth.
All that carbon we’ve dug up and burned was sequestered by Gaia to balance the Climate Monster into a benign hibernation.
Best policy I believe is retreat, Lovelock’s opinion too. First off we have to humanely reduce our population numbers, one child policy for everyone? Whatever NZ so far seems to be doing ok: we’ve had some flooding and droughts and freakishly warm winters but so far nothing large scale, I hope that continues. 🙂 http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/11/27-6
You should never be ashamed to be a New Zealander Anthony. This is the country that took a stand against nuclear weapons that captured the world’s attention and which still stands today.
This is dead wrong. New Zealand though only responsible for only 0.01% of the world’s CO2 emissions, can play a major role, maybe even the leading role, as a global template for what could be achieved.
This is the view of Sir Peter Gluckman the official government scientific adviser to the Prime Minister.
The Prime Minister chooses to ignore his scientific adviser in the interests of big coal and big oil, big auto and the roading lobby. I don’t expect this situation to change even with a change of government.
Politics is all about pressure.
What is needed is a countervailing pressure to the fossil fuel lobby. At present this lobby does not exist. But it could. And people like us need to be building it now.
Coal has been identified globally as the number 1 cause of global warming. New Zealand can and should make a global statement against the use of coal. Particularly its export.
The Green Party if they were serious about stopping climate change, (which they are not), should be putting up a private members bill calling for the banning of all coal exports.
I know what you are thinking.
This won’t achieve anything.
But you are wrong. It is a stake in the ground. It is a message. This is what needs to be done. Those voting against such a bill, even though in opposition will identify themselves to their supporters and the public generally, as intending when in office, to carry on the present government’s toadying to big coal and the rest of the fossil fuel lobby.
With this knowledge, voters will be better informed on where to place their support.
Frightening results already seen.
– arctic summer ice melt
– no more glaciers on greenland
– 1 metre rise in global sea level
– human CO2 output still increasing, only 50% being absorbed naturally
– vast areas of the globe to become uninhabitable and unproductive
New Scientist: Climate change: It’s even worse than we thought
So start reforesting to at least help with the other 50% longterm forests are also home to massive carbon sinks
I’m pretty sure the glaciers in Greenland are still there and that the sea level hasn’t risen by 1 metre.
Interesting that of those frightening results already seen two have in fact not happened and one is actually a future prediction. How can you already see vast areas of the globe to become uninhabitable and unproductive?
I have no general beef with the concepts and even some of the solutions offered for AGW but this alarmist nonsense is just ridiculous.
I had a brief look at the link. They’re looking at the changes in the forward projections. The next IPCC report is going to be a doozey with their previous Arctic estimates being somewhat conservative (by about what – 50 years or so?), the runoff from the Greenland glaciers, the interesting extreme weather, and what looks like some inroads on the fridge down south.
A lot more data feeding into the models
Will Labour sign us back up to Kyoto?
Looks like voter poison to me, so I’d stay the chances of that happening are null.
Maybe you have something else in mind BM?
A carbon tax for instance?
“looks like voter poison to me”
Insincerity much? You have the first clue what motivates progressive opinion, and then you woke up.
Massive egos and thinking you’ve got all the answers
…and then you woke up.
Not having all the answers, but being prepared to look for them, in the belief that no problem is intractable. FIFY.
Oh BURN! Nicely done.
I wonder if there is a list available of those companies doing the polluting. I’ve seen in China that residents have protested outside factories that are polluting their area. Which companies or farms in NZ are doing the polluting? Perhaps some peaceful protesting outside their gates?
Companies yes definitely, Farms you will look like a bunch of idiots in the minds of any New Zealander with anymore than an ounce of common sense
How about we just cut off their water supplies? Shouldn’t be a problem for any farm with a stream running through it.
So a solution that has millions of animals suffering and dying of thirst.
Why would they die of thirst when they can drink from the stream?
Then I don’t understand your solution as most farmers in my area are on rainwater or bore for their drinking water
Perhaps you should look behind the hyperbole.
Oh I did … anyone wanting to push the animal emissions side of things then IMHO
1. It needs to frame it and present at as ‘modern intensive farming methods’ that is if you want to even get Joe public to at least listen to the problem and the opposition you face on this particular topic will try to frame you as being against ALL farming – If they are successful at that point joe will stop listening to you not only on that but on many other things you have to say on climate change.
2. Realistic viable alternatives to ‘modern intensive farming methods’ need to be presented (and they do exist)
3. good luck it will be needed
Meanwhile. as you lay down rules that no-one will pay any attention to, the world turns.
OTH I am really begining to wonder if you understand english and common abbreviations
“Meanwhile. as you lay down rules that no-one will pay any attention to”
IMHO – In my humble opinion.
it was just that my humble opinion take it or leave it – do with it what you will, the comment was made as food for thought for anyone thinking about this. I left my ego at door. You should try it, it’s very liberating.
Yeah, but a reality check never hurts. The last time I recall debating this subject you were quite adamant that reforestation was the solution to greenhouse warming. You were quite insistent about it.
Inventing unsupported personal opinions is the very epitome of egoism.
And I am now in the position because of that discussion where I believe that the solution lies with a combination of reforestation (creating massive carbon sinks within them), advancement of green tech and reduction of CO2 emissions.
In fact I do believe that Big Oil and govts have suppressed energy patents for technology that could fix the problem very quickly if released built and implemented.
Their problem is that it would likely collapse their oil driven economies so they sit on these things while the climate change increases.
See many people think that a tree dying results in CO2 release and this is not necessarily the case in a fully functioning biodiverse forest http://server-t86.e2enetworks.net.in/files/Old.pdf
but I what I did was accept information presented that showed reforestation alone would not be enough to absorb CO2 at the current rate of production and growth.
suppressed energy patents
Yes, I used to harbour similar suspicions until (about 1996) I had a brief conversation with a professional acquaintance, an engineer who introduced me to the concept of energy density. Google it. Go on.
google Clorine and Peroxide
then Sulphur trioxide and H2O
Hydrogen peroxide? Is that the same hydrogen peroxide that is used as a rocket propellent? I thought you said the technology is being suppressed.
Who are the brain police?
was giving examples of things that can combust – those two examples not supressed and could possibly run an automobile… thats not to say there re not other solutions that are not surpressed. It is not all about Zero point and current science has been proven wrong many times in the past when new information becomes available.
could all be BS but given the oil industry profits and influence they have in Govts I’m on the side that it is likely to be true.
Ah, using US patents as a measure of something…you know there’s a patent for the razor-blade sharpening pyramid, right?
Perhaps I can introduce you to a friend of mine: The Baloney Detection Kit:.
I’m gonna guess that it’s not suppressed
I’m going to guess that you have no evidence whatsoever that anything has been suppressed outside of your fever’d imagination.
Do you agree that part of your proposal needs to include not encouraging (with loans and diverted water) farmers to put dairy cows in drought affected areas? If North Canterbury farmers want to run dairy they need to move to Southland not seek diversion of streams and waterways.
I completely agree with no farming in dry areas but Southland is at saturation point for dairy farms, literally and figuratively. We shouldn’t be doing any more dairy conversions at all. No point in artificially holding up the growth economy if you are going to do long term damage to the land.
The report on Waituna from Forest and Bird
I’m sorry I did not have time to post all of the sources over the past 8 years that have brought me to the conclusions I now have. I somehow doubt that unless I found out where you lived and turned up with a working prototype running a vehicle you would still remain cynical and unconvinced. I was actually exactly like you once with your comments then I grew up and realised that taking this approach did nothing to make the world a better place and put people off looking at many of the things that I had to say because I treated anyone with a different opinion as an adversary that I could use my superior wit to get one over and try to make them look stupid………It didn’t help me achieve what I wanted to in any way shape or form. It was amusing for me for sure, but that was about it. Then I took away the ego (which is what I was feeding by doing it) and the world changed. Again do what you will with this message – it matters not to me – peace.
“Running a vehicle…”
Please just stop, you patronising pillock. There are plenty of alternative fuels for the internal combustion engine, the problem, as I have already failed to get you to understand, is energy density: they have to be commercially viable in a fossil-fuel based economy.
I have no doubt that as fossil fuels increase in price, the commercial viability of alternatives will also increase.
not trying to be patronising – perhaps you should re read your responses…. I am thick skinned and can make up my own mind, many others will simply read your ‘comments’ and will automatically be put off side if your comments are directed at them. It depends if you want to be an awesome poster on a blog or…if you’d actually like to change the world. If it is the latter… consider changing your approach. But hey it’s your world and your experience.
Read up on the theory of the energy density of empty space. Science has some new theories since you changed your mind on the topic after speaking to your friend.
Sorry, what was your point again? Zero point?
The point is it exists in great quantities (given the amount of space. We are perhaps not technologically advanced enough to know how to harness it.
just curious… do you even have the ability to post a comment without attcking the other person or making a snide comment at the end of your post ..put another way are you able to engage in civilized conversation ..?
Do you have the ability to post a comment that actually addresses the point, instead of a Gish gallop of wild irrelevances?
First you explain that you want to bring a working engine to my house, then when I point out some basic Physics, you counter with non-existent technology and dark mutterings about suppressed discoveries.
The point isn’t that “it exists in great quantities” – the point is energy density.
While you were getting excited about the energy density of empty space, why didn’t you bring up antimatter?
Yes and then the farmer would get prosecuted under the RMA for allowing the stock to pollute the stream – great idea.
Yes, prosecuting polluters is a great idea. I think anyone who cares about lawnorder would agree, don’t you?
Well then that shoots down your little plan of turning off water supplies to farmers and then forcing them to make their stock drink from a farm stream – end result = pollution.
Never mind that most farms don’t have a convenient stream handy and never mind that most farms don’t receive town water but any way apart from those little side issues its a great idea.
Perhaps you need to look behind the hyperbole too. You’ll find Polish Pride there and the two of you can have a little party.
Some farms are companies.
We shame ourselves.
It is only the servility of the masses that allows the few to misrule.
I am so ashamed that I may top myself
I’m assuming that’s a “joke” Stan, but if it isn’t, please seek professional help.
Same. Going to fill up my V8 and drive it off the bridge while eating a big mac and smoking a cigar.
Just make sure that the drive, first of all to Macca’s and then to a bridge with a suitably flimsy side-rail … isn’t all that very far please. Got to consider the carbon footprint eh!
Sorry. Did I just hear you say that you were going to damage a bridge?
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yo stan / ragged glory
did you occasionally comment at ian wishart’s blog?
i remember you at church … come back for a visit to the bunker
Basically we and our leader, the USA are going to wait, allow companies to profit while polluting and then tax payers will clean up the mess they made later. It’s how it was int he past and this government is anything but novel and forward thinking in their approach.
Wondering how the wing nuts will spin this.
We analyse global temperature and sea-level data for the past few decades and compare them to projections published in the third and fourth assessment reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The results show that global temperature continues to increase in good agreement with the best estimates of the IPCC, especially if we account for the effects of short-term variability due to the El Niño/Southern Oscillation, volcanic activity and solar variability. The rate of sea-level rise of the past few decades, on the other hand, is greater than projected by the IPCC models. This suggests that IPCC sea-level projections for the future may also be biased low.
Or how they propose to hose this one down:
New Zealanders elected National Ltd™ to forward their best interests. So far as the environment is concerned, since coming to power in 2008 National Ltd™ has:
has been caught out repeatedly lying in the run up to and during the election campaign about its real intentions in relation to the environment
celebrated the opening of the foreign-owned Pike River Coal Ltd mine on DOC land adjacent to the Paparoa National Park from which 1 megatonne of coal will be extracted per year for the next 20 years – Pike River Coal Ltd has announced that it has found additional coal in the national park
removed a proposed efficiency standard (MEPS) on incandescent lightbulbs
reversed a moratorium on building new gas/oil/coal power stations
removed the bio fuel subsidy
scrapped the scheme that would have penalised imported vehicles producing high emissions
removed regulations for water efficient new housing
renewed leases on sensitive high country farms which were meant to return to DOC
reversed restrictions on the freeholding of vast swathes of land on the edge of the Southern Lakes
arbitrarily excised 400 hectares from the brand new Oteake Conservation Park, including the most important and, ecologically, the rarest part of the new Park, the tussock and shrubland that went right down to the banks of the Manuherikia River, to enable future access to lignite
said nothing to say in regard to the World Commission on Protected areas of IUCN’s severe criticism of its intention to investigate mineral resources and mining opportunities in protected conservation areas including our three UNESCO World Heritage Sites of Te Wahi Pounamu-South West New Zealand, Tongariro National Park and the Sub Antarctic Islands
approved two prospecting permit applications lodged by Australian iron-ore giant Fortescue Metals Group subsidiary FMG Pacific lodged in June – areas covered by the two-year permits include an 8204-square-kilometre area of seabed adjoining the west coast from Cape Reinga to the Manukau Harbour and a 3798-square-kilometre prospecting area of land from Cape Reinga to the Kaipara Harbour including Ninety Mile Beach, the west side of the Aupouri Peninsula, Kaitaia and the Hokianga.
approved an additional prospecting permit for Fortesque Metals in relation to 3568sq km right next door to the Kahurangi National Park where the Heaphy Track is
was forced to release its Ministry of Economic Development (MED) report under the Official Information Act that proclaims “significant mineral potential” in the Fiordland, Kahurangi and Paparoa national parks – the report said the Waitutu area of the Fiordland National Park had sufficient petroleum reserves to be “worthy” of inclusion in a review of conservation land protected from mining
secretly granted the minerals industry the right to veto proposed National Park boundaries and permission for any such vetoes to be kept confidential – in spite of recommendations from its own officials against any such a veto
Minster of Conservation Tim Grosser, on 29 August 2009, called for caring New Zealanders to halt their “emotional hysteria” and recognise that conservation land should be mined for minerals and went on to say “Mining in a modern, technological way can have a negligible effect”
Associate Minister of Conservation Kate Wilkinson, in an interview in “Canterbury Farming” rubished her own department, DOC, suggesting it was incapable of looking after the high country reserves and parks under its control
gutted the home insulation scheme
pulled $300 million out of public transport, walking and cycling schemes and added it to a pot of $2 billion to ‘upgrade’ state highways
changed the law to provide billions of dollar in subsidies for polluters via the ETS casino which is now a target for scamming by international criminals
begun a process of gutting the Resource Management Act to make it difficult/impossible for the public to lodge appeals against developers
removed the ability of Auckland to introduce a fuel levy to fund planned public transport upgrades
left electrification of the national rail network up in the air without promised funding commitments
removed the Ministry for the Environment’s programme to make Government Departments ‘carbon neutral’
removed funding for public tv advertising on sustainability and energy efficiency
pulled funding for small-town public litter bin recycling schemes
cabinet ministers expressing public support the bulldozing of Fiordland
reduced Department of Conservation funding by about $50 million over three years
canceled funding for the internationally acclaimed ‘Enviroschools’ programme
usurped the democratic role of local Councils of determining policies for their citizens by requiring the abandonment of the efficient and well-established tree protection rules for urban areas
set about revamping Auckland governance in a way that is likely to greatly reduce the ‘Environmental Watchdog’ role of the the current Regional Council
removed Auckland’s metropolitan limits and opened the gateway for unfettered urban sprawl
defended internationally the importation of rain-forest-wrecking palm kernel and stood silent while Federated Farmers called Greenpeace “terrorists”
stood silent while Godfrey Bloom, a Member of the European Parliament and infamous Climate Change Denialist, publicly rejoiced in the 1985 bombing of the Greenpeace Rainbow Warrior – who was doing so while standing on a dock next to the replacement vessel
took a 0% emissions reduction target to Copenhagen. Yes, seriously, that isn’t a misprint – that was the lower bound of their negotiation platform – then missed the 01/02/10 deadline for commitment to action it had agreed to – meanwhile 55 of the 80 countries which attended did make the deadline
secretly cancelled the internationally recognised scheme for the mandatory labelling of exotic woods to ensure the timber has not been taken from rain forests in direct contradiction of its own statements made at the 13th World Forestry Congress in Argentina
supported the Department of Conservation’s decision to open up the pristine Cathedral Cove to an ice-cream franchise
given the Department of Conservsation $1.7 million to further develop commercial activities on DOC land and started an “off set” plan allowing company’s to damage the conservation estate if they agree to improve land elsewhere – no monitoring regime has been suggested on put in place
left DOC director-general Al Morrison to announce that DOC is to charge for services that had been free and, to soften the public up to the idea that there will be more “energy generation schemes” operating on DOC land
taken no action to reduce existing pollution pouring into the Manawatu River and is “leaving it up to industry” to come up with solutions to heal the river which was described by the Cawthorn Institute as “one of the worst polluted in the Western world”
announced a $1.1 million industry subsidy to kick start marine farming without identifying no-go areas nor putting in place a consultation process for individiuals, communities, and other general coastal users
blamed New Zealanders after a Japanese whaling ship deliberately smashed into a smaller, more vulnerable craft in the open sea
was forced to release documents under the Official Information Act which confirm that DOC has “giving up” on ecologically valuable high-country land in the Mackenzie Basin because of funding cuts. The released documents cite “statements made by ministers”, “diminishing funding” and the Government’s new high-country policies as reasons for the changed stance – the comments from DOC were made after Land Information New Zealand (Linz), which manages the tenure review process, ignored DOC’s previous conservation recommendations for the farms
used former National Party minister and current director of Open Country Cheese – a company convicted of filthy farming practices – Wyatt Creech to head up an enquiry into Environment Canterbury which had been standing up the dairy farmers’ demands for more and more water resources and less and less regulation. The Creech report recommended the Environmental Canterbury be sacked and replaced with government appointments and the voters of Canterbury do without democracy until the water situation had been resolved. The Canterbury area holds 50 percent of New Zealand’s fresh water reserves and 50 percent of the water required for hyrdo energy. The Creech report said Environmental Centerbury put too much focus on the environment.
Despite international condemnation for knowing next to nothing about the parlous state of the New Zealand fisheries, National Ltd™ bucks international trends, pours more acid on the 100% Pure brand and increases the bluefin tuna quota.
New Zealand is subject to international criticism for its backing of commericial whaling which National Ltd supports
Government-owned company Solid Energy runs an essay competition entitled “The role of coal in sustainable energy solutions for New Zealand” for school children. First prize is a trip to New Zealand’s largest coal customer, China.
Supported access fees for entrance onto DOC walkways – fee introduced following cuts to DOC’s budget.
New Zealand’s environment would profit from mining national parks, Conservation Minister Kate Wilkinson says.
Department of Conservation director-general Al Morrison said the conservation estate created “opportunities to do a whole lot for a lot of different people”.
“We’ve got to get away from this idea that somehow we have to protect one-third of New Zealand for a certain constituency and put it in a jar of formaldehyde and leave it.”
State coal miner Solid Energy could get an extra slice of the action if highly sensitive conservation land is opened to gold, silver and other prospecting.
Energy and Resources Minister Gerry Brownlee said Solid Energy’s work could be widened to include other minerals and resources, or it could form part of a new state-owned enterprise to maximise government returns from any mining.
He did not rule out the company, which produces 80 per cent of New Zealand’s coal, having a role in mining gold and other minerals on Great Barrier Island and other conservation areas being eyed by the Government http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/3519703/Golden-possibility-for-state-coal-miner
source for most of stuff in relation to national parks
National Lied during the election about its intentions in regard to the environment
“National will have policies that reflect the fact that living on a diet of carbon will be increasingly bad – bad for the world and bad for our economy. We will have policy that encourages ‘climate friendly’ choices like windmills, hydro power and tree planting, and reduces the desire for ‘climate unfriendly’ behaviours, like burning coal,” Mr Key promised in May 2007.
“National will provide Kiwis with good signals about the cars that are the best for the environment. We will do this by ensuring our emission and noise standards for new vehicles keep up with international standards and practices and by introducing more sophisticated emissions and noise testing for existing vehicles. If Kiwis have a highly polluting or excessively noisy car, we think they should know about it and have an incentive to do something about it.”
“National proudly shares many of your values: like you, we want to protect our unique native species. We want our children and grandchildren to be able to swim in our rivers and lakes. We believe in sound environmental science. We are committed to high environmental standards.”
If you want to check out the latest “keyhole surgery” zero in on the ridge south & slightly east of Reefton on Google Earth and you’ll see Oceana Golds brand new high tech gold mine.
video talking about dairy farming in the McKenzie
Up to 200 calves were induced on Fonterra chairman Sir Henry van der Heyden’s Putaruru farms this calving season in a controversial practice to lift milk production.
The practice, which Sir Henry has not denied, has prompted claims of hypocrisy, as Fonterra says it doesn’t support inductions, and even a call for Sir Henry to stand down while the matter is investigated.
Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment Jan Wright’s report, “Lignite and climate change: The high cost of low grade coal” was meant to be released at midday today.
The report tackles the climate change ramifications of plans by two companies, state-owned miner Solid Energy and L&M Group, to mine lignite in Otago and Southland and convert it to diesel.
a third of new zealand lakes have poor water quality
Dr Norman was sceptical of the reasons why the release of the report was delayed. It was to be released last week.
“It is interesting timing that the report’s release was delayed during the World Dairy Summit in Auckland, when the report concludes that pastoral land use is associated with the ecological deterio
New Zealand’s main centres have the worst air in Australasia and Auckland is the most polluted with twice the concentration of damaging airborne particles as Sydney, the World Health Organisation says.
But Environment Minister Nick Smith yesterday challenged the accuracy of the WHO figures
37689 (2010). Brendon Burns to the Minister of Health (09 Dec 2010): Has he received any advice on the current quality of drinking water in Reidston; if so, what, if any, actions will he be taking concerning that advice?
Hon Tony Ryall (Minister of Health) replied: Reply due: 17 Dec 2010
secret meeting with boss of company responsible for massive oil spill and which wants to drill offshore New Zealand
Bay of Plenty Regional Council is concerned the importance of environmental compliance is falling on deaf ears for a portion of the farming community. This follows three cases heard in the Tauranga District Court yesterday relating to pollution reaching waterways.
Fed Farmers have welcomed National’s $400 million water storage and irrigation investment announced yesterday.
Of course Fed Farmers would. Damming rivers to store water for irrigation means farmers can convert more land to dairying, which is highly profitable at the moment.
But Fed Farmers pretend that damming rivers to store water for irrigation won’t hurt the environment.
Fisherman Ray Brokenshire fears it will be too late in five years to save the Opihi River from the effects of degradation.
The Temuka man is involved in plans to create an Opihi River group and wants concerned people to contact him to discuss river issues, including problems caused by the toxic algae phormidium.
“A lot of us at our age remember what it was like. What we are trying to say is it’s in an awful state.”
An Environment Canterbury (ECan) warning remains in place cautioning people to avoid the river at State Highway 1 because of the risk of exposure to toxins from phormidium, and some anglers will no longer fish in the river because they say the fish are smelly and inedible.
As of yesterday an ECan warning was also in place at Waipopo. A warning at the Saleyards Bridge has been removed.
Some South Canterbury anglers have blamed the growth in phormidium on a design feature of the Opuha Dam.
Barry Stone told the Timaru Herald last week the algae increase was a result of how the dam company took its water, which was by a single-take and not a multiple-take system.
Government statements re: RMA delays are flat out bullshit
National Plays down risks of yellow cake shopments passing through New Zealand waters
The New Zealand Government is jeopardising its good name in international negotiations at this fortnight’s United Nations Climate Change Conference in Durban. It has been identified as one of a small number of States stalling progress in forming an international climate agreement. Other parties have privately condemned its conduct and predict it could risk the possibility of a credible outcome.“Negotiators and observers have been telling us that New Zealand is taking an exceptionally irresponsible position in the talks”, says Rachel Dobric of the New Zealand Youth Delegation.
The 2nd place Fossil goes to New Zealand for proposing the most Flexible Mechanism imaginable with no oversight or review. Bring on the wild west. They want to be able to use any market mechanisms they wish with absolutely no oversight or international review! There would be no way to ensure that the units from one mechanism have not been sold two or three times to another such mechanism. This would likely unleash a wild west carbon market with double or triple counting of offsets and a likely increase of greenhouse gas emissions into the atmosphere.
Dirty dairying is one of our country’s biggest environmental problems, resulting in polluted waterways and undrinkable (and unswimmable) water. But the government fobs off concern about it, pointing to the “Clean Streams Accord”, an agreement between Fonterra, central government and regional councils, under which Fonterra promises to get its farmers to clean up their act voluntarily. Every year, MAF produces an annual snapshot of progress (collected here), and every year it shows that farmers are slowly but surely fencing their waterways, complying with the RMA, and setting nutrient budgets. So we don’t have a problem, right?
Wrong. That report is based on what farmers tell Fonterra assessors every year. And it turns out that they lie, overstating their compliance on excluding stock from waterways by 100%:
New Zealand’s fresh water can never be as clean and pure as it once was, but action must be taken to improve the quality of rivers, lakes and wetlands, the parliamentary commissioner for the environment says.
In a new report for MPs on water quality, released today, commissioner Jan Wright says “clear clean cool streams, full of life” still flowed through forests in remote parts of the country.
Professional surfer and environmentalist Dave Rastovich worries that the world class waves at Raglan are being threatened by proposed iron ore seabed mining in New Zealand’s coastal waters.
Kiwi-born Rastovich attended a recent protest in Raglan that coincided with the arrival of Andy Sommerville of Australian mining company Trans Tasman Resources (TTR).
Sommerville was there to meet local iwi at Poihakena Marae to discuss TTR’s plans to extract one billion tonnes of iron ore along the west coast of the North Island, a process that involves moving five billion tones of sand.
It’s not just the waves that are threatened, there are also fears for the critically endangered Maui’s Dolphin.
Economic issues top the list of worries for most New Zealanders, while environmental worries have dropped in people’s priorities, according to the latest state of the nation report by pollsters Roy Morgan
It brings into question the scientific models created by New Zealand and the Commission for the Conservation of Antarctic Marine Living Resources (CCAMLR) to allow fishing.
Global greenhouse gas emissions could rise 50 per cent by 2050 without more ambitious climate policies, as fossil fuels continue to dominate the energy mix, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) says.
Imagine, if you will, taking your children down to the park to find an overseas’ owned company had set up a dairy farm in one corner. Over time the shit builds up and flows onto the play ground. You complain, but are told the farm is under no obligation to treat or retain their waste and the council has no powers to do anything about the mess. You wonder why this was allowed to happen.
Well the government changed the rules and this company had only to apply to National’s new Environmental Protection Agency or (EPA) for the use of the land, pay a small application fee, and next thing, the company has the use of the land for eternity.
This is not fiction, it’s what’s going on right now in the Marlborough Sounds. Anyone can apply to the EPA to set up a salmon farm, and pollute the surrounding water for free, paying no rent or rates. Unbelievable but true!
Expansion of fish-farming in the Marlborough Sounds could cause unacceptable changes in the coastal environment, says Nelson-based research company Cawthron.
Auckland has New Zealand’s worst air pollution which is at levels nearly double that of Sydney, World Health Organisation data out today reveals.
Has anyone noticed the word “environment” steadily and strategically being removed from the lexicon of local and central government?
Staff within the Department of Conservation, already reeling from nationwide cuts and greatly reduced budgets, are now required to put “Conservation for prosperity” at the bottom of their emails. Prosperity for whom? The Ministry for the Environment also has the relatively new mantra of “Environmental stewardship for a prosperous New Zealand”. At least the “E” word makes an appearance, but then it is the Ministry for the Environment after all.
Synopsis: Every year, New Zealand drops huge quantities of poison-laced food into its forest ecosystems; enough poison to kill its human population 4 times over, every year. No country has ever done anything remotely similar, on such a scale… The targets are possums and rats, but the poisonous bait kills everything that eats it – including native birds, deer, farm stock, pets, and even insects. The US manufacturer advises that all uneaten baits, and carcasses, must be recovered, and burned or buried deeply. But the rules have changed in New Zealand. Baits and carcasses are left to decompose, where they fall. Poisoning Paradise investigates the scientific theory and rationalisation that drives this extraordinary practice, and provides a close-up look at one of the worlds most deadly poisons…
Parliamentary commissioner for the environment Jan Wright was in Southland last week speaking about 1080 and lignite. SCOT MacKAY caught up with her.
Prime Minister John Key has dismissed claims he is placing pressure on the Conservation Department (DoC) by appearing at the opening of Bathurst Resources’ new office.
Environment groups and the Green Party said Key’s appearance would be a sign to DoC – which is to decide on access agreements for Bathurst’s flagship West Coast project – of what the Prime Minister wanted it to do.
More than a third of Auckland’s beaches fail water quality checks and are closed for swimming
Auckland beaches are closed as high levels of pollution have forced people out of the water for safety reasons. Warning signs have popped up on Judges Bay Beach, in Parnell, after water quality tests this week found an extremely high concentration of the bacteria enterococci.
22 March 2012 at 4:24 pm
This is from Penny Bright in ‘Smith to go’ post.
Is this not a major ‘conflict of interest’ if Prime Minister John Key stands to personally profit from opencast coal mining on conservation land, because of his personal shareholding in the Bank of America, which, in turn is a significant shareholder in Bathurst Resources Ltd?
Whose interests are being served by NZ Prime Minister John Key?
As of 24 February 2012, the Bank of America was a substantial holder of shares in Bathurst Resources Ltd:
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NZ Prime Minister John Key is a shareholder in the Bank Of America.
Access to some of New Zealand’s most endangered species and isolated islands is up for sale to help fund a pest programme in the Southern Ocean.
The Department of Conservation is opening up berths on some of its most exclusive trips – including to the Snares Islands and Dusky Sound – to be auctioned off on TradeMe today.
Money raised will go towards the “Million Dollar Mouse” project, which aims to find $1 million to eradicate mice off the Antipodes Islands.
The Antipodes are an ecological treasures that lie 800km southeast of Bluff, home to rare species like the Antipodes Island snipe and the Antipodes Island parakeet.
The Government wants to make more money from its conservation estate and is eying opportunities for increased revenue gathering.
A Statement of Intent setting out the direction for the Department of Conservation (DOC) over the next five years says New Zealand is facing ongoing biodiversity losses at the same time as overall public spending is coming under growing pressure, so new ways of funding conservation must be found.
”The Department must fundamentally change its approach to continue the momentum for conservation. This means not just finding new sources of revenue . . .but changing the mindset and behaviours of the organisation as a whole,” the statement said.
Twenty years of broken promises and failures to meet environmental obligations have left New Zealand with little to be proud of, according to a new “wake-up call” report issued on the eve of a global summit.
The World Wildlife Fund report, Beyond Rio, has slated successive governments for failing the environment since promises made at the original Rio Earth Summit in 1992, and says the country now risks some of the highest rates of biodiversity loss on Earth unless urgent action is taken.
A Fonterra director whose company has been fined for fouling a Bay of Plenty waterway with cow effluent declared to the dairy co-op there had been a “one-off breach” on one of his farms. But the judge who yesterday ordered Colin Armer’s firm to pay $72,000 disagreed – instead citing a “systemic” failure that could have been prevented by better monitoring . . .
Frankly it’s wrong to claim New Zealand has the environmental laws and regulations to control oil and gas development on the continental shelf. There is no equivalent of the Resource Management Act to control oil and gas activity outside of the territorial sea (12 nautical miles offshore).
In a sneaky move the Government is to over-ride agreed coastal plans and allow marine farming consent holders in the Waikato and Marlborough to move from mussel farming to finfish farming without considering the additional environmental effects imposed. While fin fish farms involve the discharge of thousands of tonnes of fish food, no such impact occurs with mussel or oyster farming. This change in activity should be assessed like any other major change in activity through a resource consent process – it is like the Government removing discharge consent requirements from factory farms on land.
The government has bowed to pressure from economic interests in allowing offsets. This permits damage in one place on condition that it is “offset” elsewhere. It is a potentially dangerous provision because in reality it can often mean that one area or part of biodiversity can be wrecked in return for “protecting” an area that was never under threat anyway. The drafters of the Proposed NPS have provided Schedule 2 to the NPS that is designed to provide some tests and principles to limit the scope of such offsetting. That is welcome, and some of the principles are good.
The proposals noted by the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment ( 2010, p14) include a plant producing about 2 billion litres of diesel per year, using at least 12 million tonnes of lignite per year and another producing 3 billion litres using 12-17 million tonnes of lignite annually. A further project would produce by 2016 1.2 tonnes of the nitrogenous fertiliser, urea, using 2 million tonnes of lignite annually.
Documents obtained under the Official Information Act have revealed that DOC was intending to turn down Meridian (application to buils a damn on the Mohikinui River) and believed “the public conservation land within the Mokihinui River has such high value that it is most unlikely to be suitable for exchange at all.”
Forest & Bird ran a successful campaign to give New Zealanders the chance to urge Meridian Energy to withdraw its proposal.
One irony was that Meridian was a recent sponsor of Project Crimson but the Mokihinui project would have drowned the very rata forests it pledged to protect.
Maui’s dolphins still not safe from the threat of extinction.
A significant cost cutting exercise within the Environment portfolio helps explain why Budget 2012 has come and gone without a sighting of Minister Amy Adams, says Labour’s Environment spokesperson Grant Robertson.
“Environment has always been seen as the poor cousin by National, but in this budget it appears to have been kicked out of the family altogether. The Minister has not even bothered to issue a media statement to outline the details.
The Local Government and Environment Committee’s report back on the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill is extremely disappointing and a lost opportunity to put in place a robust consenting regime for the EEZ and continental shelf, according to the Environmental Defence Society. . . . “The Bill also fails to comply with New Zealand’s international obligations under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea which includes an obligation on nations to ‘protect and preserve” the marine environment. This risks damage to New Zealand’s international reputation.
Greater Wellington Regional Council today released its state of the environment report. It highlights the poor quality of many urban, lowland and Wairarapa waterways, and some rivers and aquifers being at their allocation limit.
“The state of the region’s waterways especially in the Wairarapa shows that national environmental standards are urgently needed to set limits on intensive agriculture to protect our rivers, lakes and aquifers,” said Ms Sage.
“The Government has yet to commit to setting national standards for water quality despite these being recommended by the Land and Water Forum.
“The Government has weakened protection for wild rivers in Canterbury with the ECan Act and indications are that they are seeking to weaken river protection further.”
Today’s Environmental Protection Authority’s (EPA) decision to rubber stamp the Transmission Gully motorway project is a poor decision that will see over a billion dollars of tax payers’ money wasted,
In its response to Questions for Written Answer by Ms Delahunty, the Government admitted it is undertaking a $1.67 million survey of minerals on the West Coast of New Zealand, including within the Te Wahipounamu South West New Zealand world heritage area. Te Wahipounamu is one of 183 natural heritage properties which the World Heritage Committee considers as having outstanding universal value.
National Ltd™ secretly ordered that world heritage sites on the West Coast be surveyed as part of a $3 million mineral study spanning more than 16,000 square kilometres.
The Government’s aeromagnetic survey started in February last year and covered about 70 per cent of the West Coast, excluding national parks and high-value schedule 4 conservation land.
The aerial survey was publicly revealed yesterday as a result of parliamentary questions by Green party MP Catherine Delahunty.
The former interests of members appointed to the Establishment Board for the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) make them unsuitable candidates for the job
Inexperienced managers, poor policy decisions and falling staff numbers are threatening New Zealand’s biosecurity, a group of quarantine inspectors claim.
The independent report into the outbreak of the PSA virus was commissioned by the Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) following the devastation caused by the virus in the Bay of Plenty orchards with an estimated cost of $400 million.
The report, released yesterday, found “shortcomings” in New Zealand’s biosecurity system although it could not say how the incursion had occurred
Prime Ministert John Key confirmed taxpayers would have to pick up the $80 million tab as a result of the cancelling of Emissions Trading Scheme provisions for business and farmers announced yesterday,
New Zealand Minister for the Environment Kate Wilkinson fobs off Save Fiordland protesters. Spokeswoman Daphne Taylor presented Ms Wilkinson with the Fiordland National Park Management Plan and the Conservation Management Strategy. “Just in case you haven’t read these,” Ms Taylor told her.
The process to grant consent for the Milford Dart tunnel and Fiordland Link Experience should never have started if the documents had been followed, Ms Taylor said.
A National Ltd™ appointed advisory group has recommended a significant rewrite of the Resource Management Act, removing references to the protection of coastal areas, wetlands, lakes and rivers and indigenous flora and fauna.
National Ltd™ Environment Minister Nick Smith gave $180,000 of taxpayer cash to fund meetings to resolve disputes between farmers and environmentalists clashing over projects in the Mackenzie Basin and Waitaki Valley.
The Mackenzie Sustainable Futures Trust was set up to help resolve the disputes.
Documents issued under the Official Information Act reveal senior environment ministry officials had serious concerns about the project, and declined an application for a $200,000 grant earlier this year. However, Dr Smith overuled the decision and the group got another $80,000.
More than half the cash went to environmental consultants – including about $88,000 to Ecologic, a firm run by Dr Smith’s friend Guy Salmon. Mr Salmon is also linked to the National Party ginger group the BlueGreens.
WHERE THE CASH WENT
Ecologic consultant Guy Salmon: $88,010 (includes $682 in restaurant and bar charges)
Whanganui-based consultant Richard Thompson: $13,130 (includes $149 in restaurant and bar bills)
Environment Defence Society: $2256
Restaurant and bar charges for meeting participants (at May, June and August meetings): $5495
Production of report and interim report: $30,800
John Key remains “relaxed”
A further weakening of the already gutted resource consent process is being considered for foreign-owned mining companies, according to Energy and Resources Minister. Phil; Heatley.
The public is being locked out of the consultation process on the alloting of areas being made available by the government for resource exploration.
National Ltd™ scraps government grants for solar water heating and Parliamentary Commissioner comes out against them:
National Ltd™ use the Navy along with police and Crown Law to bully environmental protesters in a legal case they knew could not be won:
National Ltd™ puts out an international call for foreign companies to drill for oil and gas in 23 blocks of deep and wild waters east of Wellington and Dunedin.
National Ltd™ consultants do a u-turn on the economic benefits of additional roading and then get handed a $200 million contract for further consultation work.
The Department of Conservation grants foreign-owned multinational mining company OceanaGold permission to destroy 55 hectares of beech forest so as to extend its Reefton mine to a total 81 hectares without public notification:
As National Ltd™ prepares to ease the resource consent process for mining companies, the Minerals Industry Association starts putting pressure on local authorities to step aside:
Economic commentator Gareth Morgan details National Ltd™’s ramshackle collection of underfunded agencies with no direction or policy for dealing with the vast marine resources of New Zealand:
A further erosion of New Zealand’s bio-security is highted when Christchurch Airport is found to have failed a survey:
Open letter to Minister for the Environment
Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment Dr Jan Wright says planned changes to the Emissions Trading Scheme will be a costly and environmentally damaging mistake.
The changes are part of the ETS amendment Bill currently before select committee. Dr Wright has submitted on the Bill this afternoon.
Dr Wright says she is particularly concerned with subsidies to polluters being locked in.
“Right now we’re subsidising ninety-five percent of big polluters’ emissions. That was due to be phased out, albeit too slowly, but the Bill will leave those subsidies in place indefinitely.
Proposed marine reserves off the West Coast have been drastically reduced in size so much so that one advocate says they are “an insult” to those who spent years trying to establish them.
New Zealand was one of only two countries to oppose further protection measures for Maui’s and Hector’s dolphins at the world’s largest conservation conference, it has been revealed.
The secret vote took place last week at the International Union for Conservation of Nature’s conference in Korea, where government officials and environmental groups met to outline environmental policy goals for the next four years.
Some 117 countries and 460 organisations voted for New Zealand to ban gill and trawl nets in waters up to 100 metres deep.
Emergy Minister Phil Heatley is caught out lying about the environmental impact of fraking.
Regional council are caught out not enforcing regulations, Government says no action is required
National Ltd™ ignores concerns about fracking which has seen the practise banned around the world
Forest & Bird says statements by Mr Joyce that opponents to the proposed Bathurst mine are “getting in the way of” potential jobs for the sacked Solid Energy workers are unfounded and mischievous.
A High Court decision says the effects on climate change cannot be considered under the Resource Management Act (RMA) as updated by National Ltd™. The Court decision came after an appeal was made against an earlier decision to allow Australian-owned mining company Bathurst Resources (also known as Buller Coal) to build a 200-hectare open-cast coal mine on the plateau and mine 80 million tonnes of coal that, when burnt, will release about 200 million tonnes of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
Fishing restrictions announced by the government will not halt the predicted slide of our nationally critical New Zealand sea lions to extinction within the next two decades
The Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf Bill, as reported back from select committee fails to protect New Zealand’s marine environment and ignores our international legal obligations.
More than half of monitored recreational sites on our rivers are unsafe for swimming, a report has revealed.
The Ministry for the Environment’s latest report card – issued weeks before summer weather sends Kiwis flocking to the water – has left opposition parties questioning New Zealand’s 100 per cent pure brand.
The Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, Jan Wright, has accused a select committee reviewing the Emissions Trading Scheme of ignoring her and other evidence against its proposals. . . . “This is about having an Emissions Trading Scheme in place that is effective,” she says, “and we now have one in place that will have very, very limited effectiveness and has locked in subsidies to to the worst emitters indefinitely,” she says.
Environment Minister pulls out of participation in legal action to prevent more pollution being poured into New Zealand’s fresh water supplies.
National Ltd™ seeks changes to the law which will make it more dificult to get consent to build a deck onto a house than it is to drill for oil.
New Zealand continues to avoid its international obligations “to ensure the conservation and management of sharks and their long-term sustainable use” while its fishers carry on with the barbaric practise of shark finning.
Recent survey results show that two thirds of New Zealanders believer spending on environmental conservation is a good use of tax payers’ money. National Ltd™ responds with further cuts to the Department of Conservation budget.
Signatures from 30,000 people in a global email petition urging Prime Minister John Key to save the endangered Maui’s dolphin have been ignored, the World Wildlife Fund says.
The Government’s “lack of response” showed “a worrying disregard” for the species’ survival, WWF New Zealand chief executive Chris Howe said. Last month New Zealand was the only country to vote against more protection for the species at the world’s largest conservation summit.
Finance Minister Bill English begins the process of further gutting urban environmental protection legislation to speed up the building consent process for developers.
The Government is stopping the five-yearly State of the Environment report.
Put together by the Ministry of the Environment, the report is the largest stock-take of trends relating to land, water, air, plants and animals.
The next report was expected in December, but the Government has decided instead to look at the basic data for each area.
New Zealand abandons the Kyoto agreement
A prominent government lobbyist is standing by his leaked comments which slam leading scientists for speaking out about New Zealand’s poor environmental record.
Mark Unsworth, of government relations consultancy Saunders Unsworth, e-mailed Massey University environmental scientist Dr Mike Joy on Wednesday in reaction to Joy’s comments to the New york Times on New Zealand’s ‘fantastical’ 100% pure image.
New Zealand’s clean green image, represented by snow-capped mountains, clean rivers and pristine countryside, is being slammed internationally as false and misleading.
Tourism New Zealand’s long-running “100 per cent Pure New Zealand” marketing campaign launched in 1999 has been questioned in a New York Times article.
As the Wellington premiere of “The Hobbit” approaches, New Zealand’s picturesque landscapes are set to take center stage once again. Ten years ago, the breathtaking vistas featured in Peter Jackson’s “Lord of the Rings” trilogy were at the heart of a tourism campaign that helped jump-start a multibillion-dollar international travel industry and a worldwide image of the country’s clean, green living. It was what Tourism New Zealand, the country’s tourism agency, called “100% pure” New Zealand.
But while the spectacular and seemingly untarnished natural backdrops, stunning waterscapes and snow-tipped mountains might look world-class on film, critics say the realm New Zealand’s marketers have presented is as fantastical as dragons and wizards.
The clean and green image has long been promoted by the isolated country in its striving to compete in world markets. But an international study in the journal PLoS One measuring countries’ loss of native vegetation, native habitat, number of endangered species and water quality showed that per capita, New Zealand was 18th worst out of 189 nations when it came to preserving its natural surroundings.
Meanwhile, John Key says New Zealand is 100% Pure. Wattaguy.
Oh come on lprent what about a link warning for Blip? My finger got sore holding down the page down button for so long
[lprent: The rule in the policy is about cut’n’paste off the net on to this site and in particular with copyrighted material.
The test is to check phrases with google. The intent is that as far as is reasonably feasible we try to keep this site’s comments mostly with material that originates from the commentators mind.
BLip writes his own material for those lists and seems to post it only here with periodic updates.
Same with Penny Bright who seems to post it here first (I see some of it showing up on Facebook later).
So we tolerate long comments if they are on topic in a post or is in OpenMike and material originating from the commentator.
There is a method to the apparent madness. Umm maybe the policy needs to make this clearer. ]
Actually I was thinking it’s so good it should be a post.
And for more on the same topic this, from Pundit
Yeah, that deserves a short introduction, and then should be given a post.
Nice work BliP. I’ve never read such a thorough collection of damnation of these pricks. To them any critique of our 5 planet lifestyle is some commie conspiracy. On planet Key our consumerist utopia is just around the corner. Believe my children (and I do mean manchilds one and all) and you shall consume and be happy.
That sure is an amazing Blip mine if anyone was in any doubts about “truths”
I had a look into what is being done about polluting companies. Councils visit companies and do compliance inspections under the RMA. They can prosecute. The public can phone the 24-hour Pollution Hotline phone 0800 765588 to make a complaint. The hotline gets about 70 calls per week from the public.