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It will be Chippy for PM

Written By: - Date published: 10:36 am, January 21st, 2023 - 101 comments
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From Stuff Live

Chris Hipkins is now set to become prime minister, and Stuff political editor Luke Malpass and political reporter Anna Whyte have the story:

Chris Hipkins is set to become New Zealand’s next prime minister, after being confirmed as the only nominee for the Labour Party leadership. Barring any last minute caucus shifts, he will be endorsed and confirmed by the Labour Party caucus in Wellington on Sunday.

“The Labour Party caucus will meet at 1pm on Sunday to endorse the nomination and confirm Chris Hipkins as Party Leader,” Labour Party chief whip Duncan Webb said in a statement.

It comes after Stuff revealed on Saturday morning a deal was struck for caucus to get behind him as a consensus candidate and put him into the top job uncontested following two days of MPs hitting the phones.

If the two-thirds of the caucus did not reach agreement on the new leader, it would have gone out to Labour’s electoral college made of caucus, party members and affiliated unions. The caucus was keen to avoid that scenario.

It follows two days of intense discussions after Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern revealed on Thursday that she would be resigning from the top job no later than 7 February.

Stuff: “Live: Chris Hipkins to become PM, only nominee for Labour leadership

I rather expected that would be the likely outcome. I suspect that this should be a good decision for the election campaign. His wikipedia bio just emphasises his political experience, he is damn good on a podium, and also inside caucus. That experience in being a whip for 6 years helps in corralling clarity in the house.

If nothing else it will quiet down the revolting misogynist arseholes of the conservatives right and left on the net for a while.

Those dickheads with their inadequacy issues are a problem that needs addressing – preferably in easily accessible law. I’m really tired of listening to them, and I suspect that way more than half of the countries population are as well. While they may not have been the central issue leading to the decision by Jacinda Ardern to resign. It would definitely have been a background that discourages woman from entering politics and other professions.

Time to deal with it.

Feel free to discuss Chris Hipkin’s new role… BTW the image is from 2012..

101 comments on “It will be Chippy for PM ”

  1. Ovid 1

    Good luck to him. He’s always struck me as good-humoured, personable, smart and across his portfolios. So he will be a good PM and a good campaigner.

  2. Reality 2

    Chris Hipkins was my pick for PM. He has personality and a sense of humour, is smart and handles the media well. He can also give a sharp response when needed (and this year that will be needed to counter all that will be thrown at him by the toxic types).

    He has a young family so being a Wellington region MP will mean a bit less constant travel for him.

    Kiri Allan for Deputy?

  3. One of the Ministers I worked for had a saying that if a person had a twinkle in their eye they were worthy of further communication.

    Rough rule of thumb but it excludes Michael Woodhouse and John Key.

    It includes Judith Collins.

    Chippy has it in bucket-loads!

  4. aj 4

    I'll never forget this covid presser in a park about a year ago when he walked down a track through bush into a clearing where the reporters were. I think he was late because his mother wanted to make sure he was dressed properly. Not shown in this video was a moment when the camera panned to two of his children who came to him after the press conference finished. Brought a tear to my eye at the time as I thought about how exhausted the covid team must have been. By 'covid team', I meant the govt decision makers, every soul in health, MIQ, police, lab work, police, in short a big number of people.

    This clip and the little story that bookends it encapsulates why he is such a good pick for PM

    • Peter 4.1

      From the other end of your human perspective …

      Work out how minutes before you see vicious comments about him.

      That unbelievable idiot David Farrar already has Chris is a "likeable nice guy, but he is also willing to play the man, not the ball." Well, not unbelievable.

      And one of his cretinous posters has it, "What jobs has he had in the real world? Ever owned a business?" Naturally all the problems with and issues in education according to that site are his fault.

  5. observer 5

    With Grant Robertson adamant that he doesn't want it, Hipkins is the best choice for leader. Michael Wood is impressive and his time will come, but not now.

    It will be fun to watch the frothers try and play the man (sic) instead of the ball. Now that they no longer have an evil commie witch dictator to fantasise about, they might have to talk about … real policy. Oo er!

    Obviously Hipkins will eat Luxon's lunch, but so would anyone who can manage a coherent sentence and avoid the weekly walkback.

  6. Mac1 6

    I lost a reply into the ether but Shanreagh, Reality, observer and Ovid have said what I wanted.

    I also would add that a big hat tip of honour should go to the caucus as a whole but the contenders especially for their acumen, their selflessness and their recognition of their time and place in the political firmament.

    The Greens via Shaw also recognised his qualities immediately.

    Hipkins has also an essential cheekiness, Seymour's best attribute, and his sense of humour shows his humility, his mental quickness and a willingness to engage as a communicator and negotiator.

    Compared with ……….? Bring on the election!

  7. SPC 7

    He would have preferred going from summer shorts to trousers c2025 (as per English after Key), whether he has more than this year to be PM will depend on making a difference in terms of perception in realising delivery (administrative competence) and then of coordinating a centre-left programme with Greens and MP that 50% can accept (pre-election).

    My first advice, adopt a tax revenue neutral approach – the Greens wealth tax (for post 2023 application) used to reduce income tax. 5% pay more 95% pay less – and otherwise tax revenues sustained for investment in infrastructure and social delivery (health/housing/welfare). All while debt is managed downward as a share of GDP.

  8. It behoves us all to re-read his maiden speech. I found it reassuring. yes

  9. Kat 9

    Chippy is bound to be an excellent PM, he has what it takes, has the experience, the backing of the party, is on top with the detail and delivers in clear concise language.

    Look out Luxon, the Chris's are about to cross and we all know which one will be crossed out.

    Jacinda is a great PM, however she is also something much more. If we had our own monarchy she would be queen, if we were a republic she would be president. The world remains that much more a beautiful place while she is in it.

  10. Reality 10

    Two Chris's – one an interesting and astute one and the other a very boring one (who needs his hand held by Nicola/advisors most of the time).

  11. UncookedSelachimorpha 11

    I think he could do well – gift of the gab, decent person and a sense of humour.

    While Labour is completely neoliberal, it is very important to avoid a NAct government which would be massively worse – and Hipkins gives a good chance of that I hope.

    Good luck Chris Hipkins!!!

    • tinderdry6 11.1

      The core tenets of neo-liberalism are free market capitalism, deregulation and cuts to government spending. To describe today's NZ Labour Party as "completely neoliberal" is more than a stretch.

      • UncookedSelachimorpha 11.1.1

        free market capitalism, deregulation and cuts to government spending

        The outcome of all of these is inequality, which NZ has in spades. Labour leaves the majority of wealth untaxed (or very lightly taxed) and is locked to user pays (=regressive tax) at every opportunity. Access to health care and education depends very much on your wealth in NZ (I know lots of examples, personally).

        I am not saying Labour doesn't make very small moves in the right direction – but given the extent of the problem (50% of NZ owns less than 5% of the wealth) – Labour's moves will not shift the dial in any meaningful way (e.g. doubling that 5% to 10%).

        • tinderdry6 11.1.1.1

          "The outcome of all of these is inequality, "

          If analysed by its extremes, socialism also produces inequality, perhaps more so. But that's not the point. The current Labour Party in government is not completely neo-liberal, far from it.

          • UncookedSelachimorpha 11.1.1.1.1

            I wouldn't advocate extremes.

            But 50% of the country having less than 5% of the wealth – is extreme. Moving that to say 10% of the wealth, would be considered "extreme" by some I suppose.

          • gsays 11.1.1.1.2

            Can you point to a reform from Labour that undoes or is a step away from neo-liberalism?

            Little's rebranding of the Health System is a wonderful opportunity to do so but they got an accounting firm (Ernst Young) to lead it. Says it all.

            • lprent 11.1.1.1.2.1

              Can you point to a reform from Labour that undoes or is a step away from neo-liberalism?

              Just offhand…

              New Zealand has just passed a law that will revolutionise workers’ rights. It probably won’t last

              Perhaps you’d like to point out how that doesn’t unwind significiant parts of the Employment Contracts Act? Or are you just being a useless critic longing for a first-past-the-post dictatorship that Muldoon and Douglas used so badly.

              Legislation that is worth having takes time to build. It is easy to be critical of the poorly written legislation of FPP. These days under MMP and coalition politics it requires agreement with the likes of NZF. It requires consideration amongst interested bodies – which you can see in Henry Cookes article.

              What it does need is a dictatorial government or a critic who appears to hanker for a dictatorial government capable of making arbitrary changes.

            • tinderdry6 11.1.1.1.2.2
              1. Labour have implemented a substantial increase in government expenditure.
              1. Labour have paved the way for significant increases in state house building, including increasing Kainga Ora's borrowing ability from crown financing as recently as November 2022.
              2. Labour have increased the highest marginal tax rate, and implemented multiple new taxes or levies, including an effective 55% increase in individual tax bills.

              I could quote a number of other examples. The left criticise Labour for being neo-liberal, while the right criticise them for being only marginally to the right of Stalin. Perhaps it's a kiwi disease.

              [Pray tell us, what specifically did Labour implement other than the introduction of the top tax bracket of 39% for incomes over $180,000 per 1 April 2021 that contributed to the 55% increase since 2017? I cannot tell from the link that you provided, so I assume you are telling porkies – Incognito]

              • Incognito

                Mod note

                • tinderdry6

                  Labour have implemented a policy of not inflation indexing tax brackets. As the article states:

                  "inflation pushing people into higher tax brackets has generated about three-and-a-half times as much revenue as the new 39% income tax rate.”

                  Did you not read the article?

                  [Are you kidding me? You are saying that Labour implemented a policy of/by not implementing a policy?? Has there been such a policy of indexing income tax brackets in NZ in recent times? AFAIK, tax bracket creep is not caused by a specific policy, so I ask you again: what specifically did Labour implement other than the introduction of the top tax bracket of 39% for incomes over $180,000 per 1 April 2021 that contributed to the 55% increase since 2017? Don’t waste my time again – Incognito]

                  • Incognito

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                  • tinderdry6

                    "You are saying that Labour implemented a policy of/by not implementing a policy??"

                    Yes.

                    The word implement means to put (a decision, plan, agreement, etc.) into effect.

                    Not indexing tax brackets is a conscious policy decision. In fact the options for such a policy decision are specifically discussed in a report from the Tax Working Group in 2018.

                    Also, I quote from this article "Tax commentator Terry Baucher said 12 years was too long to leave the tax brackets as they were." The language is very clear that 'leaving' the tax brackets is a conscious decision.

                    “Has there been such a policy of indexing income tax brackets in NZ in recent times?”

                    Yes.

                    1. National adjusted the tax thresholds through a series of changes between 2008/09 through 2010/11.
                    2. It was National policy as recently as 2019.
                    3. It was supported by ACT in 2017, and Steven Joyce said at the time that National was "open to the idea of indexing income tax thresholds to Consumer Price Index inflation to soften the 'bracket creep' that inexorably increases effective tax rates as wages rise."

                    “AFAIK, tax bracket creep is not caused by a specific policy,”

                    Well, you're wrong.

                    [You are really trying my patience and wasting my time, so this is your last chance to keep your commenting privileges on this site.

                    Not doing something is indeed a choice but it is not the same as actively implementing a policy, as you implied. For every existing and implemented policy, there is an infinite number of non-implemented ones, which just shows the absurdity of your argument and that you were indeed telling porkies.

                    A couple of ad hoc tax adjustments, whilst increasing GST, is not indexing tax brackets. However, it shows that tax bracket creep is nothing new and not caused by a policy implemented by this Labour Government, as you implied. You are digging a deeper hole for yourself.

                    Having indexing tax brackets as policy proposals is not the same as implementing them as actual policy. This is a red herring.

                    You need to back up your claim that I’m wrong and tell us which specific policy is causing tax bracket creep – Incognito]

                    • Incognito

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                    • tinderdry6

                      "Not doing something is indeed a choice but it is not the same as actively implementing a policy, as you implied."

                      Not doing something is absolutely implementing a policy when the Tax Working Group lays it out as a policy option, and when the now Finance Minister is on record as specifically ruling it out. It is rejecting the arguments for or premise of that policy. For example, not increasing benefits during some years of previous National governments was a policy decision.

                      "For every existing and implemented policy, there is an infinite number of non-implemented ones,"

                      Yep, and not implementing those are policy decisions. They are decisions on policy; to implement or not. Those decisions may be made for a host of reasons, but they are decisions nonetheless.

                      "Having indexing tax brackets as policy proposals is not the same as implementing them as actual policy. This is a red herring."

                      You didn't ask about implementing them. You asked about whether there had been a policy of indexing income txax brackets. Here's you exact quote “Has there been such a policy of indexing income tax brackets in NZ in recent times?”

                      "A couple of ad hoc tax adjustments, whilst increasing GST, is not indexing tax brackets."

                      Well I could get dragged down that rabbit hole, but it's irrelevant. You didn't ask for examples of implementation, you asked for examples of policy. I gave them to you. Including some that were implemented.

                      However, it shows that tax bracket creep is nothing new and not caused by a policy implemented by this Labour Government, as you implied. You are digging a deeper hole for yourself.

                      Where did I say it was new? Bracket creep is as old as tax and inflation. And it is caused by a deliberate policy decision to not inflation index tax brackets. Decisions made by both national and Labour governments over the years. That is demonstrated very clearly by Grant Robertsons own words:

                      “Look, we’ll see what happens, but I doubt it. That’s not our focus. We’ve been very clear that, at the moment, there is a significant need in our community to be able to invest in health, to be able deal with some of the really specific issues.”

                      Robertson made a conscious policy decision to not index tax brackets so that the government had sufficient money for other priorities. I invite you to look back at the original comment, and my responses to the claim that Labour were 'completely neoliberal' and you'll understand.

                      “You need to back up your claim that I’m wrong and tell us which specific policy is causing tax bracket creep”
                      Not indexing tax brackets for inflation. You are wrong if you think otherwise, and I’ve well and truly demonstrated that.

        • Bearded Git 11.1.1.2

          Agreed uncooked.

          Hopkins is eloquent and smart but he is from the right side of the party. This will push the left to vote Green or MP.

          The ideal election result would be a Lab/Gr coalition where the Greens demand a Wealth Tax as a bottom line.

  12. Mike the Lefty 12

    The right-wing media apologists like Bryce Edwards are crowing that Labour has effectively given up the next election with the (presumed) election of Hipkins as PM.

    I think the political right were hoping that Labour would elect Kiri Allan or Nanaia Mahuta so they could be both racist and misogynist, with Jacinda they could only do the latter.

  13. bwaghorn 13

    Let's hope his party get behind him, he doesn't appear to be ordained by the previous leader like English and Goff where,which seemed to cause endless ructions.

  14. Corey Humm 14

    Bugger.

    Hes a good minister in the background but an absolutely horrible communicator (remember that awfully awkward 10 minutes he waited to get answers to his own COVID rules at a press conference), He comes off as smug, robotic and smarmy and he was a part of the highly dysfunctional, abc faction that leaked like a 90s build home and he was an awful party whip.

    I was truly hoping it'd be someone exciting like Kiri Allen but maybe kiri would be best saved for 2029.

    I wish him the best because national/act is terrifying economically but he's just another boring centerist middle management arse hole like Goff and he'll probably get the same result as a Goff.

    Labours only hope now is doing a quiet electorate deal with TOP (what's more offensive, strategic voting or being in opposition and losing to a bunch of Ayn Rand stans) not running in all or some of the Maori electorates thus allowing the Maori party to cause an overhang, and hoping like hell the greens make Chloe a co-leader (and perhaps another mou with the greens).

    Hipkins could also hit the ground running with a cgt and other policies Ardern had ruled out and marijuana decriminalization (49.7% of NZ did vote for legalization), they could offer student loan forgiveness, first $20 k tax free and universal dental all of which would be insanely popular but given Hipkins political history as someone on the bog standard center of the party I imagine he'll aim to be another boring middle of the road poli.

    Bugger.

    Just bugger.

    • Mike the Lefty 14.1

      Hipkins is good except when he comes under pressure. This he needs to learn to deal with and he will surely get plenty. Jacinda will be a very good tutor I am sure.

    • tinderdry6 14.2

      The only poll I'm aware of comparing some of the potential Labour PM's (Taxpayers Union/Curia) shows he is the best option electorally for Labour.

      That same poll shows some key policies of the government are deeply unpopular, most notably 3Waters. It will be interesting to see whether Hipkins walks some of those policies back.

    • Sabine 14.3

      Hipkins could also hit the ground running with a cgt and other policies Ardern had ruled out and marijuana decriminalization (49.7% of NZ did vote for legalization), they could offer student loan forgiveness, first $20 k tax free and universal dental all of which would be insanely popular but given Hipkins political history as someone on the bog standard center of the party I imagine he'll aim to be another boring middle of the road poli.

      All of this under Ardern would have given them great praise and would have put them on a good footing for the upcoming elections. Couple that with a 51% majority, the Greens supporting most if not all of your points, and it should have been a cakewalk.

      Yet, here we are.

    • SPC 14.4

      There is already a 10 year bright line test on residential property. The Greens wealth tax is better.

      Not requiring health and education sector workers to pay back TD while working here, is smarter than a write off for those who now live overseas.

      First $10,000 tax free (or 10 cents to $20,000) allows more money for other adjustments (such as families).

      Free dental would require rationing access to (limited number) dentists.

      • Sabine 14.4.1

        free education for medical personal in exchange for working in NZ health for a few years.

        first 25 grand tax free – would cover median rentals, and fwiw, should find grace with the right.

        free dental – you could start with free 6 monthly checkups – to prevent decay etc and roll that out further, also see above – free education for medical personal in exchange for working in NZ health

        All of these things have been asked for many many times on this blog, in person at meetings with MP's and such, yet there is no hope of any of it coming into play.

        2.5 years with a full majority, support from the Greens, probably support from Te Pati Maori in regards to a few of these items and yet my bet is that the Labour Party will not do a thing.

        And this is why the Labour today is exactly where they are.

        • Chess Player 14.4.1.1

          The reason none of this 'free' stuff comes into play is that it is not 'free'.

          Someone has to pay.

          And while Labour tries to keep power, it doesn't have much option but to try be the middle ground party, as it lost its original ethos back in the 80s and now the Greens carry that mantle.

          Repeatedly, big talk has turned into cowardice, as a 'don't scare the horses' approach has been considered more important than the promises made in order to get elected.

          At the end of the day, I don't think it matters who the leader is, it's still just the Labour party, and the temporary boost from Ardern as leader will vanish when the electorate realises that.

      • Nic the NZer 14.4.2

        Its one of Ardern's more clever plays actually. By accepting the bright-line test being in effect a CGT, adopting the National government terminology and having said she would not introduce a CGT, she got a lot of resistance out the way without fuss.

        If Hipkins decides to re-start a policy battle already won, I would have to question his strategic thinking.

        I couldn't find CGT tax policy statements on the Green party web-site, so I think they have drawn the same conclusion and moved on to their wealth tax policy.

      • We are already rationing access to primary health care due to a limited number of GPs

    • weka 14.5

      Let's play this out. Labour let TOP win Ilam. Labour don't get enough votes or coalition partners to form govt. National can form govt with ACT but throw a sop to TOP like they did with TPM. TOP get some concessions on a UBI trial, and thus we have UBI introduced into NZ within a neoliberal RW frame.

      Nact use this to further demolish welfare (and it's a condition of ACT's support), which TOP are ok with because they hate welfare, their UBI policy was designed by a RW libertarian and still reflects this despite updates in recent years, and TOP decide that any influence is better than none. Because they don't have a good grasp of welfare and how it works, they support NACT pulling apart some of the core bits.

      How does this help the left?

      • weka 14.5.1

        this is off topic, am happy to shift to OM Lynn.

      • Sabine 14.5.2

        It does not. And it is about time that people actually start thinking in these terms.

      • observer 14.5.3

        A deal in Ilam wouldn't work. Epsom is unusual, in that the party vote is rock solid for one party and the voters do what they are told for that party. The Nats (i.e. party voters) know that their vote for Hide/Banks/Seymour will only ever be used to benefit National.

        There are few if any comparable electorates. And TOP is not perceived as a guaranteed supporter for Labour, which is the only way these deals can work.

        • alwyn 14.5.3.1

          Your reasoning is spot on. To say that Labour could let TOP win Ilam is simply dreaming. It went Labour only once since its creation back in 1996. I personally don't believe that Labour, no matter how hard they try, can retain Ilam, much less gift it to a very minor party like TOP.

        • weka 14.5.3.2

          yeah, I think TOP's unspoken position is they will support Labour if they can, and if they can't they'll take a deal from Nat. Who is going to trust that after Peters? And what advantage is there to Labour anyway?

  15. newsense 15

    Capable boy. Let’s see. Wouldn’t be expecting a CGT 🤣

  16. Maurice 16

    One chippy replaced with another …

    How long before the right wing attack women resort to misandry?

  17. Incognito 17

    But is he lucky?

    Hipkins will stay on [the same] course – the Labour Party policy re-set & re-calibration will continue mostly unchanged, IMO – but details such as his personal style (he is likeable) could and will hopefully make enough of a difference on 14 Oct. For example, his personal trademarks may not be “kindness” and “compassion” per se.

    Lately, calls for radical transformative change have increased, which is not surprising given the current socio-economic climate and the fact that it is Election Year. Hipkins will be aware of this and not necessarily and/or ideologically opposed to it, far from it, but he also knows that politics is the art of the possible, i.e., the how determines whether one gets there at all or not – it is not like scaling Mount Everest and then inevitably having to come down again, but it is also not anything like staying in the ‘middle of the road’ and being some kind of dogmatic ‘centrist’.

    Chris Hipkins, an Ardern lieutenant with multiple briefs including education, likewise insists that the aim is not just “tinkering around the edges of the neoliberal model.” Rather than being content with fixing a few “market failures,” ministers recognise that “the state does have a role in public services, that public service is different from the market, and that market decisions don’t always apply in the public sector.”

    In her pragmatic and often under-theorised way, Ardern wants to reset the terms of political trade. But even if change is far-reaching, it will not be rapid. Her ally Hipkins stoutly defends the idea of “radical incrementalism.” Previous governments have, in his view, adopted one of two models: “crash-through” change in the 1980s, when New Zealand out-Thatchered Thatcher, or the muddle-through of more recent administrations, which have shied away from spelling out any end goals, lest it frighten the horses.

    Radical incrementalism, on the other hand, involves small steps towards an explicitly transformative goal. “If we want to make a long-term shift, we have got to do that in a considered and deliberative way,” Hipkins says. “You can,” he insists, “do big change, and bring people with you, if you explain what that big change looks like.” The Ardern administration, in other words, is gambling that the public will relax once they see that the initial moves don’t bring disaster.

    https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/igps/commentaries/1741419-jacinda-ardern-transforms-new-zealand [by Max Rashbrooke, 3 April 2019, i.e., before the pandemic]

    • pat 17.1

      "Hipkins will stay on [the same] course – the Labour Party policy re-set & re-calibration will continue mostly unchanged, IMO "

      Agree he will with perhaps some marginal differences….it is worth remembering that Robertson will likely remain Finance Minister…..if he dosnt, then that indicates more substantial policy change.

  18. UncookedSelachimorpha 18

    Just watched the last half of Chris Hipkin's opening press conference. I thought he came across very well, and far more human and credible than Luxon (to me at least).

    I am optimistic (but worried) about the next election!

    • observer 18.1

      Yes, he was very good. Like Ardern, his verbal clarity comes from mental clarity. In other words, he knows what he believes and is happy to share it.

      Whereas Luxon also knows what he believes but is terrified of sharing it. Hence the blather and bluster.

      • ianmac 18.1.1

        In one of the columns today it was said that a Leader without a sense of humour will be poor leader. Chris Hipkins has a visible sense of humour and a twinkle in his eyes. Chris Luxon has neither. So…

      • left for dead 18.1.2

        yes True that statement..observer

  19. SDCLFC 19

    I know the choice of deputy is often strategic, and often about securing the support of large groups within the party.
    But an idea I like for Sepuloni is it could be setting a trap for Luxon/Willis during the campaign on Social Development when they continue to attack Beneficiaries.
    Not sure I know too much about what she is like and how good of a political operator she is, but maybe Labour fancy National trying to attack them there, and Sepuloni leading the response. National will secure their safe vote on the issue but in the process come off very cold and stale to middle New Zealand

  20. tsmithfield 20

    Congratulations to Chippie.

    I think he comes across as a very genuine person, and a heck of a nice guy. I also like the way he is always prepared to front up, regardless of how tough the interviewer is, and always seems cheerful, and offers a logical, considered response.

    A pity he is with the wrong party. LOL.

    I just hope that it is realised he has been given a hospital pass, and that he won't be dumped if Labour lose this time around.

    • mpledger 20.1

      National haven't opened their mouths yet so there is nothing to put people off yet. Once they start trying to talk people into their ideas, I think people will go "You tried that, it failed, haven't you got anything new?" and the tide will gently swing back.

  21. Tiger Mountain 21

    A big mistake, the only bigger one would be the ineffective Ms Sepuloni as Deputy dog. WEAG anyone?…the MSD tops must just laugh.

    Mr Wood is the man who has actually delivered for working class people with FPAs and the return of NZ Coastal Shipping.

    • observer 21.1

      If Michael Wood thought so, it would be a contested election.

      • Chess Player 21.1.1

        Wood knows the chances of winning later this year are not great – he’ll be banking on Hipkins losing and resigning, then taking over from there.

        Hipkin’s already been there 15 years so it has to be either up, or out, for him at this point otherwise he’ll never achieve his dream to be PM.

        Trying to be PM later, means Hipkins will need to first become leader of Labour, and the opportunity may not present again for a while – even if it does, by then he’ll be considered stale goods, just as Little and Davis now are.

    • Anne 21.2

      Perhaps not quite ready yet TM and I suspect he knows it which is why he pulled out. He probably wants a bit more of a ‘hands-on the political chess-game and how to play it' experience under his belt. Barring some unforeseen circumstance I believe he will be Party leader and PM one day.

      • Tiger Mountain 21.2.1

        You are probably right Anne, I am just impatient as the clock ticks down. Labour still has a total MMP majority until October, and a feisty Wood could have reset things, but not to be.

        I was at a Labour Party public! meeting in Kelston a few years back when Andrew Little was leader, and Chris Hipkins was there with various others including Carmel Sepuloni–fair enough as she was a recognised West Auckland campaigner–and he was fine, but he toes the conservative Caucus line when it comes down to it.

        I hope enough women, like in the US midterms, flex their power in the 2023 General Election over the treatment of Jacinda Ardern and keep the Natzos and ACT out of office.

    • Bearded Git 21.3

      Agreed Tiger but see my post above….it may work out ok.

      • Tiger Mountain 21.3.1

        Finally got back to your post Git and see your point!

        I am old school and like to see members and affiliates involved (not many of the latter left) but Labour did the right thing tactically here in the situation with a quick resolution. The pundits would have had great fun with a contested replacement for PM.

  22. Ad 22

    Appropriate nightwatch batters letting Wood and Kiri remain protected for rising in the aftermath.

  23. Reality 23

    Facetiously, wonder if Chris Hipkins had hired a Mercedes to get him to Parliament today for his anointing as PM?

  24. mary_a 24

    Well done Chippie. The best person for the job as new Labour leader and PM in my opinion. He has strong political experience and is familiar with how the system works. Also he is amiable and is a good communicator, a big plus for political leaders, along with the fact he is very intelligent and is not a ditherer when it comes to policy making.

    The upcoming election debates will be entertaining. I can see Chippie knocking Luxon off his perch. Come to think of it, haven't heard much from the Nat leader today … hmm … strange, considering Chippie is making news in the majority of NZ media outlets today!

    Stock up on popcorn folks for later on in the year. I'm picking Hipkins will get Labour over the line come October 14.

    • yes Yes Mary_a. He doesn't see it as a hospital pass. The re-set of Deputy will be interesting, plus Policy planks. We need to fund raise like mad and get our teams up and running.

    • observer 24.2

      Yes, more than over the line I expect.

      It's amazing how little some people seem to learn from history. There are countless examples of leaders/parties winning elections from starting positions far worse than this one for Labour, in democracies all around the world. It's the endless hamster wheel of punditry … polls say X, predictions are made, predictions then proved wrong, then five minutes later we're back to the polls saying Y and pretending the past never happened.

      In 1991 President Bush (the first) had an astonishing approval rating of 90%. The Democrats basically gave up. In 1992 … he lost.

  25. Stuart Munro 25

    A good choice, and good luck to him.

    No doubt prewritten poison pen opinions await editing even now, as the so-called journalists take the weekend off to work on their spleen.

  26. bwaghorn 26

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131030961/becoming-pm-the-biggest-responsibility-and-the-biggest-privilege-of-my-life-says-chris-hipkins

    Reading couple of his uttering about aspiration and hard work , if I didn't know he was labour I would have said he was a nat.

    • UncookedSelachimorpha 26.1

      I noticed that too. Uncomfortably close to dividing into deserving and undeserving – and the lie that with hard work, we can all be billionaires.

    • newsense 26.2

      Wait- how did you think all those essential things essential workers do get done? Every deeply red person I know usually worked two jobs, plus community work such as sports coaching. The pay wasn’t the biggest factor.

      Nats inheritance is yet guy who got the dole over summer and spent it on his dad’s boat. The complaints keep the handouts coming, tax free to those who don’t need them.

  27. Christopher Randal 27

    The first thing the new PM should do is implement, in it's entirety, the recommendation of the Tax enquiry that Labour instigated then ignored.

    The second thing is to get really serious about fixing the Health system

    The third thing is to cancel Auckland Light Rail and use the money around the country to fix the roads.

    • lprent 27.1

      Another fool speaks… But yes, I’d like to see a extended and better Capital Gains Tax.

      But this one…

      The third thing is to cancel Auckland Light Rail and use the money around the country to fix the roads.

      Even in NZTA, fixing roads is a different budget to putting in new transport links. It is paid from funds levied from vehicle owners and drivers via fuel taxes, road users charges, and some sundry taxes. If more money is required for fixing roads than is in the levies – then we really need to raise levies on road vehicles. Probably via the fuel tax or RUC.

      Since most of damage to the roads comes from loaded trucks. So the appropriate levy to significantly raise is the road user charges on loaded vehicles. Or possibly add a tax on diesel to reduce its emissions as well as having an economic effect.

      • bwaghorn 27.1.1

        Is that the same trucks that carry already to expensive food to your door ,? Taxing them more will only make food more expensive.

  28. Peter 28

    While it will be Chippy for PM, I think it is most likely later in the year it will also be Chippy for leader of the Opposition.

    • observer 28.1

      Only if you think National can get through a year without saying anything.

      There is no evidence at all of a shift to the right. There is a shift to "opposition". That's a very different thing.

      With the usual exception of crime (which always favours the right) the public mood on climate change, health sector, education etc is for the government to do more, not less.

      Luxon wants to do less. He just hasn't said so out loud. Only David Seymour has.

      • lprent 28.1.1

        I think that it is time to start stating National party policy. Since they don’t appear to have anything that isn’t just criticism of Labour policy, a slogan promise, and absolutely no detail – I think that it time to attribute National’s policy as being that of ACT.

        After all in a NAct government if it arrives, that appears to be their platform.

        • adam 28.1.1.1

          They Godless leading the greedy – NAct

        • Mike the Lefty 28.1.1.2

          Jacinda's closing act of fixing the election date of October 14 must have caught the NACTS a bit by surprise and it will certainly make National's lack of policy more glaringly obvious with every week that goes by.

          It is a kind of political tradition in NZ that the main opposition party keeps their policies fairly close to their chest in election year so that the government doesn't have the opportunity to counter argument, but that carries its own risk.

          Unless of course they don't have any policies, in which case they had better come up with some fairly quickly unless they think that they can sleep walk over the line.

          And no, I don't regard building more roads and more prisons as genuine policies, they are more like National default settings.

  29. Grant Cairncross 29

    This article is an extremely well referenced take down of all the bollocks the NZ MSM has been dishing up. Dishonestly at that.
    Distribute it widely and tell those people to distribute it widely etc,etc too.
    They have lied to you.
    Shamelessly.
    Click on the links. They all go to the OECD and other highly respected sources.
    NZ is doing very well in an extremely difficult global environment.
    Get. The. Message. Out.

    https://michaelwest.com.au/murdochs-wailing-old-white-man-scribes-get-jacinda-ardern-dead-wrong-again/

    [lprent: The accurate tag for this is

    As the world is thanking Jacinda Ardern profoundly for her 14 years in New Zealand’s Parliament and more than five as prime minister, a large number of white male scribes have joined in a frenzy of extraordinarily bitter attacks. Alan Austin reports on her economic performance.

    So it is relevant because it looks at claims and then provides data and links.

    The comment itself had my anti-troll instincts up. It pays to write about the content to say what it is about. Waffle doing promotion just resonates as trolling – please correct this in future. ]

  30. Muttonbird 30

    This is great. RW pundits are whacking themselves off something stupid over Chris Hipkins as some sort of saviour delivering NZ from total Māori control.

    How does egg-head fight this?

    • Anne 30.1

      Egg Head was on TV1 news at 6pm.

      He said something along the lines:

      "It doesn't matter who is PM because they have done nothing. Nothing at all. We are going to do something."

      But he didn't say what the something was.

      He looked like he had just eaten a lemon. Not a happy chappie. smiley

      • ianmac 30.1.1

        Was it because they did too much or not enough. He can't have it both ways.

        • Anne 30.1.1.1

          He was claiming that in their 5 plus years in office Labour have done nothing.

          That's a mind boggling statement given everything that has happened in the past 5 years. He looked anxious and pissed off. I wonder why. 😉

      • fender 30.1.2

        "But he didn't say what the something was"

        He'll have to do whatever he's told by the ACT party in order to have any chance of becoming PM. And just like that new House Speaker in the U.S he'll do whatever it takes to fulfill his egotistical ambition for the title.

  31. Reality 31

    I think our new PM will deal very effectively with Luxon and challenge him. While I have the utmost admiration for Jacinda, I felt with all the toxicity and venom being thrown at her, there needed to be sharper responses towards that. Chris H can do that well I suspect as long as he doesn't descend to their level.

  32. SPC 33

    If Ch(ristopher) Hip(kins) does not like the known nickname Chippy, can we call him by his secret name "Rusty O'Pherkins"?

  33. newsense 34

    Geez I tell you what, listening to her articulate the situation, could we bring her in as a guest PM for a couple of weeks or something?

    Thanks for staying in such great shape PM Clark! It makes the rest of us feel a lot younger…we don’t have to reminisce about when you were on the TV making us feel so happy to be Kiwis, as Jacinda has done. You still do! Fantastic to see you laughing and enjoying things. You don’t realise how important to the mental health it is to feel proud of and happy with your PM until you might lose them from the position.

    You’re confident in Chippy, how about the rest of us? Are we doing okay too? Heh.

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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Dusk Chorus: Mahuta and Little demoted
    Nanaia Mahuta fell the furthest in the Cabinet reshuffle. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: PM Chris Hipkins unveiled a Cabinet this afternoon he hopes will show wavering voters that a refreshed Labour Government is focused on ‘bread and butter cost of living’ issues, rather than the unpopular, unwieldy and massively centralising ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • We just need the Wayne to stop
    Shortly, the absolute state of Wayne Brown. But before that, something I wrote four years ago for the council’s own media machine. It was a day-in-the-life profile of their many and varied and quite possibly unnoticed vital services. We went all over Auckland in 48 hours for the story, the ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    6 days ago
  • 2023 More Reading: January (+ Old Phuul Update)
    Completed reads for January Lilith, by George MacDonald The Rime of the Ancient Mariner (poem), by Samuel Taylor Coleridge Christabel (poem), by Samuel Taylor Coleridge The Saga of Ragnar Lodbrok, by Anonymous The Lay of Kraka (poem), by Anonymous 1066 and All That, by W.C. Sellar and R.J. ...
    6 days ago
  • Is Britain doomed (again)?
    Pity the poor Brits.  They just can’t catch a break. After years of reporting of lying Boris Johnson, a change to a less colourful PM in Rishi Sunak has resulted in a smooth media pivot to an end-of-empire narrative.  The New York Times, no less, amplifies suggestions that Blighty ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago
  • After The Deluge.
    On that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. And rain fell on the earth.Genesis 6:11-12THE TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS that dumped a record-breaking amount of rain on Auckland this anniversary weekend will reoccur with ever-increasing frequency. The planet’s atmosphere is ...
    6 days ago
  • Minister of Education (who might be replaced later today) left it to his ministry to apologise for i...
    Buzz from the Beehive There has been plenty to keep the relevant Ministers busy in flood-stricken Auckland over the past day or two. But New Zealand, last time we looked, extends north of Auckland into Northland and south of the Bombay Hills all the way to the bottom of the ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago
  • The other ‘big one’: How a megaflood could swamp California’s Central Valley
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Jeff Masters When early settlers came to the confluence of the Sacramento and American Rivers before the California Gold Rush, Indigenous people warned them that the Sacramento Valley could become an inland sea when great winter rains came. The storytellers described water filling the ...
    6 days ago
  • Tuesday's pick o' the links: Wayne Brown's WTF moment
    Wayne Brown managed a smile when meeting with Remuera residents, but he was grumpy about having to deal with “media drongos”. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: In my pick of the news links found in my rounds since 4am for paying subscribers below the paywall:Wayne Brown moans about the media and ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Tuesday's pick o' the links: Wayne Brown's WTF moment
    Wayne Brown managed a smile when meeting with Remuera residents, but he was grumpy about having to deal with “media drongos”. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: In my pick of the news links found in my rounds since 4am for paying subscribers below the paywall:Wayne Brown moans about the media and ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Bryce Edwards’ Political Roundup: The gamechanger PM and polls
    Dr Bryce Edwards writes –  Last night’s opinion polls answered the big question of whether a switch of prime minister would really be a gamechanger for election year. The 1News and Newshub polls released at 6pm gave the same response: the shift from Jacinda Ardern to Chris Hipkins ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • Dawn Chorus: Why 2023 will be a year of indecision & delay
    Hipkins’ aim this year will be to present a ‘low target’ for those seeking to attack Labour’s policies and spending. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: Anyone dealing with Government departments and councils who wants some sort of big or long-term decision out of officials or politicians this year should brace for ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Dawn Chorus: Why 2023 will be a year of indecision & delay
    Hipkins’ aim this year will be to present a ‘low target’ for those seeking to attack Labour’s policies and spending. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: Anyone dealing with Government departments and councils who wants some sort of big or long-term decision out of officials or politicians this year should brace for ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Bryce Edwards: The Gamechanger PM and polls
    Last night’s opinion polls answered the big question of whether a switch of prime minister would really be a gamechanger for election year. The 1News and Newshub polls released at 6pm gave the same response: the shift from Jacinda Ardern to Chris Hipkins has changed everything, and Labour is back ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    6 days ago
  • After the deluge – initial thoughts on the Auckland floods
    Over the last few years, it’s seemed like city after city around the world has become subject to extreme flooding events that have been made worse by impacts from climate change. We’ve highlighted many of them in our Weekly Roundup series. Sadly, over the last few days it’s been Auckland’s ...
    6 days ago
  • Ever Get the Feeling You've Been Cheated?
    And so the first month of the year draws to a close. It rained in Auckland on 21 out of the 31 days in January. Feels like summer never really happened this year. It’s actually hard to believe there were 10 days that it didn’t rain. Was it any better where ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Ani O’Brien: Luxon can’t afford to continue ‘small target’ politics
    A ‘small target’ strategy is not going to cut it anymore if National want to win the upcoming election. The game has changed and the game plan needs to change as well. Jacinda Ardern’s abrupt departure from the 9th floor has the potential to derail what looked to be an ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    6 days ago

  • Advancing our relationship in India
    Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta departs for India tomorrow as she continues to reconnect Aotearoa New Zealand to the world.  The visit will begin in New Delhi where the Foreign Minister will meet with the Vice President Hon Jagdeep Dhankar and her Indian Government counterparts, External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Government Northland housing investment to spark transformational change
    Over $10 million infrastructure funding to unlock housing in Whangārei The purchase of a 3.279 hectare site in Kerikeri to enable 56 new homes Northland becomes eligible for $100 million scheme for affordable rentals Multiple Northland communities will benefit from multiple Government housing investments, delivering thousands of new homes for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Battle of Ohaeawai remembered
    A memorial event at a key battle site in the New Zealand land wars is an important event to mark the progress in relations between Māori and the Crown as we head towards Waitangi Day, Minister for Te Arawhiti Kelvin Davis said. The Battle of Ohaeawai in June 1845 saw ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • More Police deployed to the frontline
    More Police officers are being deployed to the frontline with the graduation of 54 new constables from the Royal New Zealand Police College today. The graduation ceremony for Recruit Wing 362 at Te Rauparaha Arena in Porirua was the first official event for Stuart Nash since his reappointment as Police ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Further support for upper North Island regions hit by significant weather
    The Government is unlocking an additional $700,000 in support for regions that have been badly hit by the recent flooding and storm damage in the upper North Island. “We’re supporting the response and recovery of Auckland, Waikato, Coromandel, Northland, and Bay of Plenty regions, through activating Enhanced Taskforce Green to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • The Princess Royal to visit New Zealand
    Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has welcomed the announcement that Her Royal Highness The Princess Royal, Princess Anne, will visit New Zealand this month. “Princess Anne is travelling to Aotearoa at the request of the NZ Army’s Royal New Zealand Corps of Signals, of which she is Colonel in Chief, to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government and horticulture sector target $12b in exports by 2035
    A new Government and industry strategy launched today has its sights on growing the value of New Zealand’s horticultural production to $12 billion by 2035, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor said. “Our food and fibre exports are vital to New Zealand’s economic security. We’re focussed on long-term strategies that build on ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Cost of living support extended for families and businesses
    25 cents per litre petrol excise duty cut extended to 30 June 2023 – reducing an average 60 litre tank of petrol by $17.25 Road User Charge discount will be re-introduced and continue through until 30 June Half price public transport fares extended to the end of June 2023 saving ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • More Kiwis in work as rising wages match inflation
    The strong economy has attracted more people into the workforce, with a record number of New Zealanders in paid work and wages rising to help with cost of living pressures. “The Government’s economic plan is delivering on more better-paid jobs, growing wages and creating more opportunities for more New Zealanders,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government boosts fund for Auckland flooding
    The Government is providing a further $1 million to the Mayoral Relief Fund to help communities in Auckland following flooding, Minister for Emergency Management Kieran McAnulty announced today. “Cabinet today agreed that, given the severity of the event, a further $1 million contribution be made. Cabinet wishes to be proactive ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New Cabinet focused on bread and butter issues
    The new Cabinet will be focused on core bread and butter issues like the cost of living, education, health, housing and keeping communities and businesses safe, Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has announced. “We need a greater focus on what’s in front of New Zealanders right now. The new Cabinet line ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Prime Minister to meet with PM Albanese
    Prime Minister Chris Hipkins will travel to Canberra next week for an in person meeting with Australian Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese. “The trans-Tasman relationship is New Zealand’s closest and most important, and it was crucial to me that my first overseas trip as Prime Minister was to Australia,” Chris Hipkins ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government makes first payment to Auckland Flooding fund
    The Government is providing establishment funding of $100,000 to the Mayoral Relief Fund to help communities in Auckland following flooding, Minister for Emergency Management Kieran McAnulty announced. “We moved quickly to make available this funding to support Aucklanders while the full extent of the damage is being assessed,” Kieran McAnulty ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government steps up to assist Auckland during flooding
    As the Mayor of Auckland has announced a state of emergency, the Government, through NEMA, is able to step up support for those affected by flooding in Auckland. “I’d urge people to follow the advice of authorities and check Auckland Emergency Management for the latest information. As always, the Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Poroporoaki: Titewhai Te Huia Hinewhare Harawira
    Ka papā te whatitiri, Hikohiko ana te uira, wāhi rua mai ana rā runga mai o Huruiki maunga Kua hinga te māreikura o te Nota, a Titewhai Harawira Nā reira, e te kahurangi, takoto, e moe Ka mōwai koa a Whakapara, kua uhia te Tai Tokerau e te kapua pōuri ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Enhanced Task Force Green Approved following Cyclone Hale
    Carmel Sepuloni, Minister for Social Development and Employment, has activated Enhanced Taskforce Green (ETFG) in response to flooding and damaged caused by Cyclone Hale in the Tairāwhiti region. Up to $500,000 will be made available to employ job seekers to support the clean-up. We are still investigating whether other parts ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • General Election to be held on 14 October 2023
    The 2023 General Election will be held on Saturday 14 October 2023, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. “Announcing the election date early in the year provides New Zealanders with certainty and has become the practice of this Government and the previous one, and I believe is best practice,” Jacinda ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announces resignation
    Jacinda Ardern has announced she will step down as Prime Minister and Leader of the Labour Party. Her resignation will take effect on the appointment of a new Prime Minister. A caucus vote to elect a new Party Leader will occur in 3 days’ time on Sunday the 22nd of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago